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hikikohi05:09
pittiGood morning06:19
pittibdrung: LGTM, thank you!06:19
flocculanthi pitti06:21
didrocksgood morning pitti, flocculant06:38
pittibonjour didrocks ! ça va ?06:40
flocculanthi didrocks :)06:40
didrocksça va pitti, et toi ?06:42
didrockshey flocculant06:42
pittididrocks: ça va bien aussi; c'était un week-end calm06:42
willcookemorning all07:57
didrockshey willcooke08:00
didrocksfeeling better?08:00
willcookehi didrocks.  Kinda - it's gone from the scratchy sore throat to lots of sneezing and blowing noses.  I prefer that to a sore throat :)08:01
Laneyhullo!08:02
willcookemorning Laney08:02
didrockshey Laney08:03
didrockswillcooke: progress at least, indeed!08:03
willcookeandyrock, Trevinho - when I used to search the dash for "calc" it returned Libre Office Calc & GNOME Calculator.  LO Calc was always the first result - which is annoying, but that's a story for another day.  But - larsu taught me a trick - just search for "cal" instead and then GNOME Calculator was returned first - but now in 16.04 LO Calc is first even when searching for "cal".  This is not a bug, but do you have any clever ideas08:05
willcooketo make Calculator be the first result?  (If indeed you think it should be)08:05
willcooke(oops, sorry for the ping l_arsu)08:05
* larsu waves :)08:06
willcooke0/ :)08:06
Sweet5hark1moin08:10
willcookehey Sweet5hark108:17
Sweet5hark1willcooke: good to hear you feel a different flavor of ill :/08:19
willcookeSweet5hark1, :DD08:20
seb128good morning desktopers!08:25
willcookehi seb12808:25
seb128hey willcooke, how are you? got over your cold?08:25
willcookenearly08:26
willcooke:)08:26
didrockshey seb128, Sweet5hark108:27
seb128lut didrocks!08:28
pittibonjour seb128 !08:28
seb128hey Sweet5hark1 pitti08:28
Laneyhey seb128, Sweet5hark1, pitti, willcooke & didrocks08:36
Laneywhat a lineup08:36
Laneyhow's it going?08:36
pittihey Laney, how are you?08:36
seb128hey Laney08:37
seb128did evertbody had a good w.e?08:37
pittipretty calm here; my wife was away, so lots of videos, some gardening, and some hacking :)08:38
Laneythe sun appeared!08:41
seb128lie!08:41
seb128in fact it did here as well08:42
* pitti looks at a blue sunny sky with08:42
pitti... no clouds08:42
seb128after a week of rains08:42
Laneysupposed to be 23 today08:42
alexarnaudhello pitti, willcooke, didrocks, seb128, Laney, Trevinho, TheMuso :)!08:42
willcookemorning alexarnaud08:43
* Sweet5hark1 s weekend was kinda darkened by those epic ownCloud/nextCloud and Jacob Appelbaum meltdowns ...08:43
alexarnaudThis is an important week for Hypra, we present accessibility and free software at Autonomic Paris (the most important exposition about accessibility and technology) :).08:44
seb128hey alexarnaud, good luck with the exposition!08:46
seb128bah, as usually, busy -changes activity has to do with haskell...08:46
didrocksmorning alexarnaud08:47
seb128that stack is ridiculous08:47
alexarnaudseb128: thanks you, we'll give the best of us :).08:48
seb128IRC is quite calm those days!09:26
tseliotmvo: hi, have you seen this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/158900609:58
ubot5Launchpad bug 1589006 in snapd (Ubuntu) "Failed unmounting Mount unit for nvidia support in snappy" [Critical,In progress]09:58
tseliotmvo: maybe we should do something in the prerm?09:59
mvotseliot: yes, I saw it :/ I have a snapd side fix for this. but this makes me pretty nervious I want to raise the approach today in our standup, maybe we will come up with a different strategy (our snap launcher using namespaces for the bind mounts). in any case, the branch I linked in the bug should fix 99% of the fallout of this10:01
tseliotmvo: ah, ok, so nothing to do on my side. As for LP: #1588192, your patch works fine here. The Krita snap runs as expected with nvidia-361 from -proposed10:03
ubot5Launchpad bug 1588192 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-304 (Ubuntu Xenial) "GL interfaces seem wedged for Krita on nvidia" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158819210:03
mvotseliot: thanks, works for me as well, do you know why some people report problems with compiz with the sru? is that because its a new driver and there might be regressions or is it because of something else that we need to debug?10:20
tseliotmvo: where did you see that?10:22
mvotseliot: "Hello after upgrade nvidia drivers(proposed repo) on my laptop..i can not login successful (loop at login)."10:24
mvotseliot: I wonder if this is a side-effect of the mount issue or if it is something else10:24
mvotseliot: maybe I'm just paranoid :/10:24
tseliotmvo: maybe the compiz settings were corrupted?10:27
tseliota user reporting that doing sudo dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ fixed it10:27
mvotseliot: aha, ok.10:29
mvotseliot: that is a relief10:29
tseliot:)10:30
seb128being offline for some hours, bbl11:18
hikikoandyrock, when you have some time: https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/compiz/compiz.fix-build/+merge/296540 (it causes compile errors)11:30
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desrtgreetingS, everyonE12:34
desrtanD gooD morninG12:34
willcookehey desrt12:39
desrtgood morning, willcooke12:39
pittidesrt: is that the esperantO capitalizatioN?13:01
desrtno13:01
desrtthings are just weird before the first cup of coffee13:01
qenghomoinmoin13:04
willcookewhat up qengho13:06
qenghowillcooke: Oh, you know. Not much. Though, if I get washed away by floodwaters in today's tropical storm, please reassign my bugs. kthx13:17
willcookewill do.13:18
mvotseliot: we just discussed the bind mount of libgl in our snappy standup and we would like to revert the bind mount unit again, sorry for the trouble, but the issues that croped up are too servere and we will use a different strategy (bind mount in the launcher in a private mount namespace to isolate all of this from the real system)13:47
tseliotmvo: ok, let me revert the commits then13:48
xnoxwillcooke, Laney - i like the updated terminal theme, however can the spacing/padding be increased on the plus button please?13:48
xnoxhttp://people.canonical.com/~xnox/terminal-spacing.png13:48
tseliotmvo: maybe let me know what's needed on my side when the new bind mount code is in place13:49
xnoxand the hover for the [+] could be nicer -> e.g. similar to that of an [x]13:49
xnoxi.e. instead of doing light background highlight, keep dark background and create the "bubble" frame around the [+]13:49
mvotseliot: probably nothing, thank you again and sorry for the trouble13:51
tseliotmvo: ok, no problem13:51
willcookexnox, sadly not.  There is a bit of a bug with that whole section (the + and the dropdown, called the "Actions bar",  it's positioned incorrectly and doesn't respond correctly to styling.  So I had to hide the brokeness as best I could, hence it looks a bit squashed in there13:52
willcookexnox, supposedly fixed in 3.2013:52
xnoxwillcooke, right.... suspected that to be an actual bug, rather than a "styling" bug =)13:52
xnoxoh well, fair enough. It is still nicer than whatever was there before.13:52
willcookexnox, thanks.  I know it's there though, so I'll fix it asap in 3.2013:54
Laneycome on parcelforce14:35
Laneyyou can do it14:35
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Trevinhowillcooke: hey.... So "calc"... I've been bothered by that too for years now, but... The thing is that if a name matches 1:1 then we choose that in unity-lens-app... And this was the design.15:37
Trevinhowillcooke:  I think we should also give search history a role after certain time, but it does seem not to happen in this case15:38
TrevinhoI do remember I brought up this thing with mhr3 at the time, but dash backend people refused to change it :)15:38
willcookeheh15:39
willcookeTrevinho, I guess it's too late to fix it now.  Do you know of any hacks, like could I rename it !calculator or someting?15:40
Trevinhowillcooke: yeah... Renaming LO desktop file is probalby the fastest hack15:40
willcookeTrevinho, thx15:41
Trevinhowillcooke: maybe you can override it by putting yours in ~/.local/share/applications (same desktop-id though)15:41
willcookethanks Trevinho15:42
Trevinhonp15:42
ginggshi, is this the right place to ask the ubuntu-desktop team to subscribe to a package?  LP: #158840716:02
ubot5Launchpad bug 1588407 in metis (Ubuntu) "[MIR] metis" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158840716:02
ginggsLaney: are you in that team?16:03
Laneyhi ginggs16:04
Laneythat's that libreoffice thing isn't it?16:04
Laneydone16:05
ginggsLaney: yes it is, thanks!16:21
seb128good afternoon desktopers!16:29
willcookehey seb12816:29
seb128hoi willcooke!16:29
seb128how was the afternoon around here?16:29
willcookeseb128, while I remember: happyaron asked if you could take a look at the nm vpn plugins sru16:29
willcookeseb128, pretty quiet16:29
* seb128 reads IRC logs and see that16:30
willcookedinner, and a meeting with robert_ancell at 10ish tonight, so will bbl16:36
Laneylaters16:37
* Laney wonders why menuitems are changing in size when hovered16:37
Laney:|16:37
seb128Laney, still making your way through the theme details?16:48
Laneyye16:49
Laneythere are like 3 main things left16:49
Laneyat least on the widget factory16:49
Laneydidn't check applications yet16:49
Laneythey'll be fiinnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee16:50
seb128getting there then :-)16:50
seb128wooot16:50
TrevinhoLaney: oh... Css is messed?17:01
* Laney eyes Trevinho 17:02
Laneygtk 3.20 is basically "rewrite your themes pls"17:02
Laneyat least the selectors17:02
LaneyTrevinho: how's .ca?17:03
seb128salut Trevinho17:04
TrevinhoLaney: nice... I really loved visiting Quebec city17:04
TrevinhoSalut seb12817:04
TrevinhoIn Quebec English is banned17:04
TrevinhoBut.. Finally I found historic stuff in North America17:04
Laney\o\17:05
* Laney is outta here17:05
Laneylaters17:05
seb128Laney, have a nice evening!17:06
llwalahoopHello! I'm not sure this is the right place, but I'll give it a shot: I'm trying to modify a theme and I just can't get the colors right. Where can I define the colors that are referred to in gtkrc? (@bg_color and so on)17:34
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willcookellwalahoop, I'm not sure this is the correct answer, but until someone comes to correct me... try gtk-main.css17:51
willcookeso for Ambiance... it's /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/gtk-3.017:52
willcookethen gtk-main in that dir17:52
llwalahoopThanks willcooke, I'll try that!17:54
llwalahoopwillcooke: How would that be achieved with gtk-2.0?18:53
willcookellwalahoop, try: /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/gtk-2.0/gtkrc19:05
llwalahoopAh, I think I found out what causes my problem: The color I'm trying to change resides in a .png-file, so it is not a definition at all! Do you know those moments when you feel like an idiot. I'm experiencing one right now. Anyway, I learned something new following your suggestion, so big thanks!19:13
llwalahoop^ @ willcooke19:14
willcookellwalahoop, no worries, welcome to my world :)19:14
llwalahoop:)19:15
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dobeyis there a known bug for Ctrl-Shift-u no longer working in vte (gnome-terminal) to enter unicode characters?20:19
willcookedobey, I can't find one if there is20:27
jbichaworks here20:27
dobeyweird20:27
dobeywhat the heck would cause it to not work?20:28
dobeybecause it's definitely not working here20:28
willcookedobey, could it be your shell rather than the terminal?20:29
dobeyi doubt it's the shell. it was working fine before20:30
dobey(not sure when it broke, but noticed it recently)20:30
dobeyand i don't think the shell would have anything to do with input keybindings anyway20:30
robert_ancellwillcooke, sorry, completely forgot about our meeting..20:51
willcookerobert_ancell, no worries at all20:52
willcookenight all21:10

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