[05:09] <hikiko> hi
[06:19] <pitti> Good morning
[06:19] <pitti> bdrung: LGTM, thank you!
[06:21] <flocculant> hi pitti
[06:38] <didrocks> good morning pitti, flocculant
[06:40] <pitti> bonjour didrocks ! ça va ?
[06:40] <flocculant> hi didrocks :)
[06:42] <didrocks> ça va pitti, et toi ?
[06:42] <didrocks> hey flocculant
[06:42] <pitti> didrocks: ça va bien aussi; c'était un week-end calm
[07:57] <willcooke> morning all
[08:00] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[08:00] <didrocks> feeling better?
[08:01] <willcooke> hi didrocks.  Kinda - it's gone from the scratchy sore throat to lots of sneezing and blowing noses.  I prefer that to a sore throat :)
[08:02] <Laney> hullo!
[08:02] <willcooke> morning Laney
[08:03] <didrocks> hey Laney
[08:03] <didrocks> willcooke: progress at least, indeed!
[08:05] <willcooke> andyrock, Trevinho - when I used to search the dash for "calc" it returned Libre Office Calc & GNOME Calculator.  LO Calc was always the first result - which is annoying, but that's a story for another day.  But - larsu taught me a trick - just search for "cal" instead and then GNOME Calculator was returned first - but now in 16.04 LO Calc is first even when searching for "cal".  This is not a bug, but do you have any clever ideas
[08:05] <willcooke> to make Calculator be the first result?  (If indeed you think it should be)
[08:05] <willcooke> (oops, sorry for the ping l_arsu)
[08:06]  * larsu waves :)
[08:06] <willcooke> 0/ :)
[08:10] <Sweet5hark1> moin
[08:17] <willcooke> hey Sweet5hark1
[08:19] <Sweet5hark1> willcooke: good to hear you feel a different flavor of ill :/
[08:20] <willcooke> Sweet5hark1, :DD
[08:25] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[08:25] <willcooke> hi seb128
[08:25] <seb128> hey willcooke, how are you? got over your cold?
[08:26] <willcooke> nearly
[08:26] <willcooke> :)
[08:27] <didrocks> hey seb128, Sweet5hark1
[08:28] <seb128> lut didrocks!
[08:28] <pitti> bonjour seb128 !
[08:28] <seb128> hey Sweet5hark1 pitti
[08:36] <Laney> hey seb128, Sweet5hark1, pitti, willcooke & didrocks
[08:36] <Laney> what a lineup
[08:36] <Laney> how's it going?
[08:36] <pitti> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:37] <seb128> hey Laney
[08:37] <seb128> did evertbody had a good w.e?
[08:38] <pitti> pretty calm here; my wife was away, so lots of videos, some gardening, and some hacking :)
[08:41] <Laney> the sun appeared!
[08:41] <seb128> lie!
[08:42] <seb128> in fact it did here as well
[08:42]  * pitti looks at a blue sunny sky with
[08:42] <pitti> ... no clouds
[08:42] <seb128> after a week of rains
[08:42] <Laney> supposed to be 23 today
[08:42] <alexarnaud> hello pitti, willcooke, didrocks, seb128, Laney, Trevinho, TheMuso :)!
[08:43] <willcooke> morning alexarnaud
[08:43]  * Sweet5hark1 s weekend was kinda darkened by those epic ownCloud/nextCloud and Jacob Appelbaum meltdowns ...
[08:44] <alexarnaud> This is an important week for Hypra, we present accessibility and free software at Autonomic Paris (the most important exposition about accessibility and technology) :).
[08:46] <seb128> hey alexarnaud, good luck with the exposition!
[08:46] <seb128> bah, as usually, busy -changes activity has to do with haskell...
[08:47] <didrocks> morning alexarnaud
[08:47] <seb128> that stack is ridiculous
[08:48] <alexarnaud> seb128: thanks you, we'll give the best of us :).
[09:26] <seb128> IRC is quite calm those days!
[09:58] <tseliot> mvo: hi, have you seen this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1589006
[09:59] <tseliot> mvo: maybe we should do something in the prerm?
[10:01] <mvo> tseliot: yes, I saw it :/ I have a snapd side fix for this. but this makes me pretty nervious I want to raise the approach today in our standup, maybe we will come up with a different strategy (our snap launcher using namespaces for the bind mounts). in any case, the branch I linked in the bug should fix 99% of the fallout of this
[10:03] <tseliot> mvo: ah, ok, so nothing to do on my side. As for LP: #1588192, your patch works fine here. The Krita snap runs as expected with nvidia-361 from -proposed
[10:20] <mvo> tseliot: thanks, works for me as well, do you know why some people report problems with compiz with the sru? is that because its a new driver and there might be regressions or is it because of something else that we need to debug?
[10:22] <tseliot> mvo: where did you see that?
[10:24] <mvo> tseliot: "Hello after upgrade nvidia drivers(proposed repo) on my laptop..i can not login successful (loop at login)."
[10:24] <mvo> tseliot: I wonder if this is a side-effect of the mount issue or if it is something else
[10:24] <mvo> tseliot: maybe I'm just paranoid :/
[10:27] <tseliot> mvo: maybe the compiz settings were corrupted?
[10:27] <tseliot> a user reporting that doing sudo dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ fixed it
[10:29] <mvo> tseliot: aha, ok.
[10:29] <mvo> tseliot: that is a relief
[10:30] <tseliot> :)
[11:18] <seb128> being offline for some hours, bbl
[11:30] <hikiko> andyrock, when you have some time: https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/compiz/compiz.fix-build/+merge/296540 (it causes compile errors)
[12:34] <desrt> greetingS, everyonE
[12:34] <desrt> anD gooD morninG
[12:39] <willcooke> hey desrt
[12:39] <desrt> good morning, willcooke
[13:01] <pitti> desrt: is that the esperantO capitalizatioN?
[13:01] <desrt> no
[13:01] <desrt> things are just weird before the first cup of coffee
[13:04] <qengho> moinmoin
[13:06] <willcooke> what up qengho
[13:17] <qengho> willcooke: Oh, you know. Not much. Though, if I get washed away by floodwaters in today's tropical storm, please reassign my bugs. kthx
[13:18] <willcooke> will do.
[13:47] <mvo> tseliot: we just discussed the bind mount of libgl in our snappy standup and we would like to revert the bind mount unit again, sorry for the trouble, but the issues that croped up are too servere and we will use a different strategy (bind mount in the launcher in a private mount namespace to isolate all of this from the real system)
[13:48] <tseliot> mvo: ok, let me revert the commits then
[13:48] <xnox> willcooke, Laney - i like the updated terminal theme, however can the spacing/padding be increased on the plus button please?
[13:48] <xnox> http://people.canonical.com/~xnox/terminal-spacing.png
[13:49] <tseliot> mvo: maybe let me know what's needed on my side when the new bind mount code is in place
[13:49] <xnox> and the hover for the [+] could be nicer -> e.g. similar to that of an [x]
[13:49] <xnox> i.e. instead of doing light background highlight, keep dark background and create the "bubble" frame around the [+]
[13:51] <mvo> tseliot: probably nothing, thank you again and sorry for the trouble
[13:51] <tseliot> mvo: ok, no problem
[13:52] <willcooke> xnox, sadly not.  There is a bit of a bug with that whole section (the + and the dropdown, called the "Actions bar",  it's positioned incorrectly and doesn't respond correctly to styling.  So I had to hide the brokeness as best I could, hence it looks a bit squashed in there
[13:52] <willcooke> xnox, supposedly fixed in 3.20
[13:52] <xnox> willcooke, right.... suspected that to be an actual bug, rather than a "styling" bug =)
[13:52] <xnox> oh well, fair enough. It is still nicer than whatever was there before.
[13:54] <willcooke> xnox, thanks.  I know it's there though, so I'll fix it asap in 3.20
[14:35] <Laney> come on parcelforce
[14:35] <Laney> you can do it
[15:37] <Trevinho> willcooke: hey.... So "calc"... I've been bothered by that too for years now, but... The thing is that if a name matches 1:1 then we choose that in unity-lens-app... And this was the design.
[15:38] <Trevinho> willcooke:  I think we should also give search history a role after certain time, but it does seem not to happen in this case
[15:38] <Trevinho> I do remember I brought up this thing with mhr3 at the time, but dash backend people refused to change it :)
[15:39] <willcooke> heh
[15:40] <willcooke> Trevinho, I guess it's too late to fix it now.  Do you know of any hacks, like could I rename it !calculator or someting?
[15:40] <Trevinho> willcooke: yeah... Renaming LO desktop file is probalby the fastest hack
[15:41] <willcooke> Trevinho, thx
[15:41] <Trevinho> willcooke: maybe you can override it by putting yours in ~/.local/share/applications (same desktop-id though)
[15:42] <willcooke> thanks Trevinho
[15:42] <Trevinho> np
[16:02] <ginggs> hi, is this the right place to ask the ubuntu-desktop team to subscribe to a package?  LP: #1588407
[16:03] <ginggs> Laney: are you in that team?
[16:04] <Laney> hi ginggs
[16:04] <Laney> that's that libreoffice thing isn't it?
[16:05] <Laney> done
[16:21] <ginggs> Laney: yes it is, thanks!
[16:29] <seb128> good afternoon desktopers!
[16:29] <willcooke> hey seb128
[16:29] <seb128> hoi willcooke!
[16:29] <seb128> how was the afternoon around here?
[16:29] <willcooke> seb128, while I remember: happyaron asked if you could take a look at the nm vpn plugins sru
[16:29] <willcooke> seb128, pretty quiet
[16:30]  * seb128 reads IRC logs and see that
[16:36] <willcooke> dinner, and a meeting with robert_ancell at 10ish tonight, so will bbl
[16:37] <Laney> laters
[16:37]  * Laney wonders why menuitems are changing in size when hovered
[16:37] <Laney> :|
[16:48] <seb128> Laney, still making your way through the theme details?
[16:49] <Laney> ye
[16:49] <Laney> there are like 3 main things left
[16:49] <Laney> at least on the widget factory
[16:49] <Laney> didn't check applications yet
[16:50] <Laney> they'll be fiinnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[16:50] <seb128> getting there then :-)
[16:50] <seb128> wooot
[17:01] <Trevinho> Laney: oh... Css is messed?
[17:02]  * Laney eyes Trevinho 
[17:02] <Laney> gtk 3.20 is basically "rewrite your themes pls"
[17:02] <Laney> at least the selectors
[17:03] <Laney> Trevinho: how's .ca?
[17:04] <seb128> salut Trevinho
[17:04] <Trevinho> Laney: nice... I really loved visiting Quebec city
[17:04] <Trevinho> Salut seb128
[17:04] <Trevinho> In Quebec English is banned
[17:04] <Trevinho> But.. Finally I found historic stuff in North America
[17:05] <Laney> \o\
[17:05]  * Laney is outta here
[17:05] <Laney> laters
[17:06] <seb128> Laney, have a nice evening!
[17:34] <llwalahoop> Hello! I'm not sure this is the right place, but I'll give it a shot: I'm trying to modify a theme and I just can't get the colors right. Where can I define the colors that are referred to in gtkrc? (@bg_color and so on)
[17:51] <willcooke> llwalahoop, I'm not sure this is the correct answer, but until someone comes to correct me... try gtk-main.css
[17:52] <willcooke> so for Ambiance... it's /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/gtk-3.0
[17:52] <willcooke> then gtk-main in that dir
[17:54] <llwalahoop> Thanks willcooke, I'll try that!
[18:53] <llwalahoop> willcooke: How would that be achieved with gtk-2.0?
[19:05] <willcooke> llwalahoop, try: /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
[19:13] <llwalahoop> Ah, I think I found out what causes my problem: The color I'm trying to change resides in a .png-file, so it is not a definition at all! Do you know those moments when you feel like an idiot. I'm experiencing one right now. Anyway, I learned something new following your suggestion, so big thanks!
[19:14] <llwalahoop> ^ @ willcooke
[19:14] <willcooke> llwalahoop, no worries, welcome to my world :)
[19:15] <llwalahoop> :)
[20:19] <dobey> is there a known bug for Ctrl-Shift-u no longer working in vte (gnome-terminal) to enter unicode characters?
[20:27] <willcooke> dobey, I can't find one if there is
[20:27] <jbicha> works here
[20:27] <dobey> weird
[20:28] <dobey> what the heck would cause it to not work?
[20:28] <dobey> because it's definitely not working here
[20:29] <willcooke> dobey, could it be your shell rather than the terminal?
[20:30] <dobey> i doubt it's the shell. it was working fine before
[20:30] <dobey> (not sure when it broke, but noticed it recently)
[20:30] <dobey> and i don't think the shell would have anything to do with input keybindings anyway
[20:51] <robert_ancell> willcooke, sorry, completely forgot about our meeting..
[20:52] <willcooke> robert_ancell, no worries at all
[21:10] <willcooke> night all