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OerHeks:-)00:00
josephpagoda-lapwhere I can make the bug report that users should be part of the input group by default now?00:00
josephpagoda-lapbecause that seems like a more sane default configuration than not having them be part of the input group00:00
OerHeks!bug00:00
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.00:00
josephpagoda-lapthat will also make things like joysticks and gamepads happier00:00
josephpagoda-lapi don't know what package this would be for though00:00
OerHeksagainst the mtrack package  i think https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-mtrack00:01
OerHeksJosephpagoda-lap maybe this guy suffers the same https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-mtrack/+bug/144564200:02
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1445642 in xf86-input-mtrack (Ubuntu) "mtrack fails on trusty" [Undecided,New]00:02
OerHeksas Newer versions of Xorg are rootless, they do not have permission to access input devices by default.00:03
eggggshello all00:04
j_broHello00:17
allen__Ubuntu Mate 16.04 installation hangs indefinitely at timezone area when I went to type a new location... it is supposed to deleting partitions and formatting new ones in the background so I don't want to just shut off power. But nothing is happening. What should I do??00:28
pilnei'm guessing using the server(cli selection) iso and then installing fluxbox would be the "mostest minimalist" way of doing it? (also same for i3?)00:28
allen__anyone?00:31
Hydr0p0nXallen__ how long has it been frozen ?00:32
allen__15 min00:34
Skaagis there really no simple way to have both python 2.x and python 3.x coexisting in peace in ubuntu 14.04 via repo?00:35
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Skaagmust I really install one of them from source?00:35
tewardSkaag: uh, what?>00:36
tewardSkaag: I have both python 2 and python 3 installed in Trusty; they're different entities stored differently if you're installing from the repos?00:36
k1lSkaag: that sounds like you have some 3rd party packages mess?00:37
k1lSkaag: 14.04 ships 2.7 and 3  in different packages already. what is your exact issue?00:37
tewardSkaag: as k1l said :p00:38
* teward is lagging badly00:38
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Cyber_AkumaIf I install Ubuntu to a single drive, and then later add other drives to my system that have their own MBR, will Ubuntu overwrite that MBR if I update grub?01:00
Skaagwell, when I installed 2.7 it was fine, and apt had no errors initially... I used the alternatives to make 3.4 the default, with 2.7 2nd01:02
Skaagtrouble started when I tried to install pip for 2.x01:02
pilneanytime you do python development, you should probably setup a virtualenv01:02
pilnejust little scripts for yourself it's generally ok to use the system python01:02
dbz2kdoes somebody know a script that will stop apps from taking all my cpu01:04
Skaagthose are the packages I have installed, at the moment: https://gist.github.com/skaag/6dc2739819a26a406301caa2ce36dafb01:04
Skaagdbz2k: ionice -c3 {script}01:04
dbz2kwhen I my computer gets 100% percent cpu usage it freezes01:04
Skaagand this is my 'apt-get -f install' output: https://gist.github.com/skaag/3ce5b4c1f04ebfe580d75eccc157ccd001:06
SkaagI don't know how to get rid of that01:06
dbz2kSkaag, will cpulimit survive reboots?01:06
pilnewindoze often went to 100% cpu for me randomly, linux only does it when i'm expecting it in my experiences01:07
Arcairelol people saying 'windoze' in the year of our lord two thousand and one score minus four anno domini01:08
pilnehey, i fart dust... i think i'm grandfathered in, literally.01:10
Skaagoh man01:10
Bashing-omCyber_Akuma: Separate drives have individual boot code . so no .. installing another drive will not effect the boot code on the 1st drive .01:12
Skaagok found the issue...01:13
Skaagyou can't make 3.4 the default python, with update-alternatives01:13
Skaagsince apt relies heavily on it01:13
Skaagif you do that, all goes to hell01:13
tewardSkaag: that's also in line with Python's policies for distributions shipping both01:13
tewardthat python2 should remain the default until otherwise stated01:14
Skaagso I made 2.7 the default, and suddenly apt works01:14
tewardat least according to their docs on the latest versions01:14
Cyber_AkumaBashing-om, Dosent' it by default install it's own MBR so that grub will load when you install Ubuntu though?01:14
Skaagwish I knew this before I wasted 5 minute of my life01:14
Bashing-omCyber_Akuma: Well .. yes and no . In a default " erase disk and install ubuntu ' the default is to install the boot loader to the 1st hard drive . - one could remove that drive to preclude writting to it .. .. or set up the partitioning manually .. and in the maunaul method .. one can direct where the boot code is installed to .01:16
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GhostlyHello, anyone had experience with upgrading to windows 10 on a dual boot machine?01:29
GhostlyThing is that i tried upgrading and now my grub is in rescue mode and for some odd reason i can't find my old ubuntu partition.01:31
LothenonGhostly: for repairing Grub try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows01:34
RexodusLothenon: partition is gone...01:35
Lothenonreally? Then you have to install Ubuntu again. Hope you have a backup of your data01:36
bipulHi01:36
GhostlyLothenon, thanks for the link.01:37
Lothenonyw01:38
computehow do you arase the history comments?01:39
tewardGhostly: I wouldn't put it past Windows 10 to snarf up the entire disk; it is Windows after all.  if the partition is gone though, you'll have to resize Windows 10 and reinstall Ubuntu01:39
tewardcompute: what "history comments"?01:39
computepress the up and down keyboard01:41
tewardin what?  Terminal?01:41
tewarda third party program?01:41
Ghostlyteward, i honestly kind of expected that, I was a bit silly thinking that it would leave my other os alone. Fortunately at least for now it has not eaten my unimportant ntsf partition with some junk on it XD01:41
tewardcompute: you need to give more specifics and details, like "what history, in what program" for example01:42
tewardcompute: there's at least fifty 'histories' on a system depending on the setups01:42
tewardGhostly: to be honest, Windows 10 can't recognize Linux partitions01:42
tewardit could be a case that it read it as free space and autoexpanded.01:42
Ghostlymakes sense.01:43
tewardGhostly: in any case, though, that explains the grub failures, it's looking for a nonexistent partition :/01:43
computeI'm using irssi01:43
computexD01:43
tewardcompute: then you mean the irssi commands history01:44
teward?01:44
tewardI think closing irssi and reopening it is the only way to clear that01:44
computeIn that program01:44
computexD01:44
fabricioalguem do brasa?01:44
somsip !br | fabricio01:44
ubottufabricio: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.01:44
fabricioto com um problema de funcionamento no meu compiz fusion01:45
computeteward: I'm using irssi program...01:49
jackcomi log in utuntu with ssh, and i excute some command that show me continueous text, but i closed connection by mistake. so i want reconnect ubuntu with ssh again. but i can’t see previous screen. then how can i do?01:49
tewardcompute: i understand that.  The only way to get rid of the irssi history is to /quit and then reopen irssi01:49
tewardat least, that's the only way I'm aware of to clear that01:49
computeThanks01:50
pennTellerIs there a channel for ubungu GNOME?01:50
pennTellerubuntu*01:50
GivonnepennTeller according to the docs there is #ubuntu-gnome   i never used it01:53
jackcomi log in utuntu with ssh, and i excute some command that show me continueous text, but i closed connection by mistake. so i  reconnect ubuntu with ssh again. but i can’t see previous screen. then how can i do?01:54
jackcomhow can i see previous screen?01:54
somsip!tmux | jackcom (commands terminate on disconnection when sshing normally)01:54
somsip!info tmux | jackcom (commands terminate on disconnection when sshing normally)01:54
ubottujackcom (commands terminate on disconnection when sshing normally): tmux (source: tmux): terminal multiplexer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1-3build1 (xenial), package size 237 kB, installed size 616 kB01:54
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superguestI am currently running on an old ubuntu livecd session and have  downloaded and *mounted*  the 16.04.iso02:16
superguestis there a way to load the livecd installer within the currentlu running livecd session?02:18
tewardsuperguest: no.02:18
tewardsuperguest: you have to boot to the 16.04 livecd to get to its installer.  simply mounting it in the older livecd won't help you02:18
superguesti only have have one usb.02:18
tewardthen go buy a DVD and burn the ISO to the DVD?02:19
tewardor overwrite the usb stick.  or go get another one somewhere, USB sticks are pretty dirt cheap nowadays02:19
superguesti cannot create a bootable usb, as  the resource is busy, since currently running (old) livecd session is running off the target.02:21
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eggggsinstall old version  then  install new  if its all you got]02:22
tewardsuperguest: and you have no other OS to boot to to create the LiveUSB?02:22
superguestfuck it i’ll install grub and then loopmount the iso02:24
Bashing-omsuperguest: I do not know how it will work out in 16.04 .. but there is : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot <-allow booting/installing an .iso directly from the hard drive.02:24
winston2kgood evening anyone02:31
NickelbackWhat key do i have to press to have compiz cube?02:31
NickelbackI use Ubuntu-Mate02:31
winston2kdo you have compiz config manager installed?02:32
winston2kneed that the settings are there02:33
Nickelbackcompizconfig-settings-manager?02:33
winston2kyes02:33
winston2ki have mate and i had to install it02:34
winston2kusing compiz desktop cube right now with rotation02:36
winston2kyou have to goto mate tweak and change compositor to compiz before it will work02:37
Nickelbackwhat do i have to type to have a cube?02:37
winston2kyou need to add workplace switcher to your panel02:38
winston2kchanging workplaces/desktops rotates cube02:39
winston2kthe compiz manager should show you the key bindings02:40
Nickelbackviewport switcher?02:40
winston2kno, workplace switcher that you add to panel provides multiple desktops02:42
winston2kright click on panel02:42
winston2kadd to panel02:43
tominatorCould one of you direct me to help for clonezilla?02:44
tominatorwhere can I get help for clonezilla?02:46
tominatoror info02:46
winston2ktominator try #clonezilla02:47
tominatorthanks02:48
tominatorI'll try it; I would like to have an EFI boot partition and a regular BIOS partition on the same drive, so that I can move the drive freely between computers02:49
tominatorCan I use clonezilla to copy a drive, but also insert an EFI partition?02:52
Nickelbackthe cube doesn't work02:55
tewardtominator: clonezilla does a good job of cloning drives, but it doesn't do a good job of modifying the drive image to add partitions that didn't exist when the image was taken02:56
tewardtominator: however, the channel #clonezilla is better for those types of questions02:56
tominatorteward: Thanks for the info. Nobody seems to be on that channel :P02:57
Barones help msg02:59
winston2knickelback did you goto matetweak and change compositor to compiz?02:59
winston2kif you review my steps in sequence they should enable cube03:00
NickelbackIt works!03:00
winston2kyay03:01
NickelbackI did it again03:01
Nickelbacki changed the compositor and use compziz again03:01
NickelbackxD03:01
winston2kawesome03:01
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vdominesatanusHello?03:07
K-archhello03:07
winston2khello03:07
vdominesatanusHow is everyone?03:07
evanlinjinGood.03:07
K-archbad03:07
winston2k5 by 503:08
winston2kk-arch why bad?03:09
K-archOh I have my computer tower on the floor next to my desk and my dog pee-ed right inside of it, allot too, I'm jest looking at it like man that's going to be a pain to clean up03:14
K-archK-arch:  Oh I have my computer tower on the floor next to my desk and my dog pee-ed right inside of it, allot too, I'm jest looking at it like man that's going to be a pain to clean up03:15
CloudWalkeri need help getting zoneminder cgi-bin folder to work03:15
CloudWalkerinstead of executing the cgi-bin folder gets downloaded when i try to execute03:15
cryonicandroidhelloooooo03:16
CloudWalkertrying to use ScriptAlias in apache config03:16
indransyahexit03:26
learner__hi guys, i'm running ubuntu 14.04 I installed network manager and the pptp plugin, I created a pptp vpn, but when i click to activate it, nothing happens, not even a log in syslog03:39
learner__what should i do03:39
dirtyrepeated question I asked in #ubuntu-server ;; on server how do I manually install security updates on a one time basis, I do not want it automated with unattended-upgrades for a couple local policy reasons03:40
dirtydamn it... s/,/?/03:40
somsipdirty: http://askubuntu.com/questions/194/how-can-i-install-just-security-updates-from-the-command-line (last suggestion from second answer down)03:41
dirtysomsip: thanks buddy03:42
CloudWalkermy zoneminder cgi scripts work now i think03:42
CloudWalkerbut my monitors show red output instead of video feed03:42
CloudWalkeranyone know why?03:42
somsipCloudWalker: this doesn't seem to be an ubuntu issue - more like one with your scripts or the setting-up of them03:43
CloudWalkertrue03:43
Bomber4ChatsIf I want to properly install Windows 10 to dual boot with Ubuntu, I should install Windows 10 without UEFI (rather with legacy), right?03:59
daxBomber4Chats: it doesn't matter04:01
daxthe main support issue for Linux distros is Secure Boot, not UEFI. theoretically Ubuntu works with Secure Boot enabled, but eh.04:02
daxapart from that, just install Windows first and Ubuntu second and it should be very simple04:02
SailorMoonStupid question, When booting Ubuntu from a Live USB, can i access said USB?04:05
PigeonWhispererSailorMoon, yeah it should show up as a mounted drive04:06
eckseptionay04:14
dramaya04:14
reisioaye04:15
reisioyea04:15
stacks88running ubuntu 14.04 - my server4.mydomain.com , the bandwidth is maxed out. people are downloading directly off its apache. so its doing 1gbit/sec right now.. if i type ssh root@server4.mydomadin.com uptime (to try to run the uptime command without logging in), it just sits there.. stalling forever...... but if i take off 'uptime' and just ssh root@server4.mydomain.com it logs in right away.04:18
stacks88does anyone know what this means ? it has to do with the bandwidth being maxed out for sure, but why can i log in normally but i cant run commands without logging into this said-box ? Or.. if i do log in normally to server4.mydomain.com , FROM the machine, i cant seem to make outgoign connections to the mysql server. e.g i run mysql -u user -h mysql.mydomain.com -p and after i enter in the pw04:18
stacks88it just sits there. Simiarily, if i type *from within server4.mydomain.com* : ssh user@mysql.mydomain.com uptime - it doesnt go anywhere. but once i take off the uptime, it logs in.. i feel like theres got to be some setting in /proc or sysctl that i can change, tahts network related, socket related or connection related, to alleviate the situation ?04:18
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nimelis:D04:21
nimelisHi ?04:21
nimelisanybody here?04:21
nimelishello04:21
reisionimelis: ohai04:21
guest5351how to get a user name in freenode ??04:21
nimelisI dont know, this is the very first time I'm using Ubuntu04:22
nimelishaha04:22
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nimelisHow long does it take to install?.... It's been a while now04:22
Bashing-om!register | guest535104:23
ubottuguest5351: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode04:23
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asifhi04:26
asifhow to register ??04:26
asifmy nick is now asif04:26
reisioasif: /msg nikserv help register04:26
SailorMoonif ubuntu live updates, thats just temporary in ram, right?05:04
Wavesonicsguys, im losing my mind05:04
Wavesonicsim writing a shell script, and if I execute a particular command05:04
WavesonicsUSBINFO=$(/sbin/blkid)05:04
Wavesonicsit then runs everything from that point on in the file multiple times05:04
WavesonicsHOW IS THAT POSSIBLE05:04
Bashing-omSailorMoon: Correct . Only exist in ram and will not persist a reboot .05:06
user___Hi , I want create new shortcut in kde 5 for running script file How I can do this ?05:12
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mozaHello, I need help getting my sound back after a motherboard change and an alsa reinstall (thought it would fix it, but now I don't have a /proc/asound anymore. Here is more info : http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=797c0491442d901ac5050e04ba157b1758d290c205:29
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bigdissavedHey05:45
griffinHi everyone! I just got a Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga 11e, and I'm trying to figure out how to tell when the screen is rotated05:45
bigdissavedBashing-om: Hey!05:46
* bigdissaved goes to the vending machine in room and grabs a Dr Pepper06:01
* bigdissaved goes and sits on the couch, waiting for somone to wake up...06:01
* bigdissaved stares at walls06:01
Bashing-ombigdissaved: I return . What it be like now ?06:02
bigdissavedit is all good so far. I wanted you to know. :)06:03
bigdissavedstill have a few apps to install, printer, adobe reader, etc...06:03
Bashing-ombigdissaved: Nuclear solution works again :)06:04
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bigdissavedwith dkms, I have it build my wireless modules on kernel update... at 4.4.0  if a 4.4.5 or 4.5.0 comes down the pipe, do I have to update dkms settings? Just wondering06:05
bigdissavedand with armagedin on the drive.... I did it last time to 15.4, and it worked for a day, then the graphics did that, with stock vod modules06:06
Bashing-ombigdissaved: I really do not know with wireless drivers .. DKMS is "supposed" to deal with it .. but ........06:07
bigdissavedok, I can do it manually.... and it is easy.... make clean all install, and depmod... done06:08
bigdissavedjust nice to not have to worry about it every kern update06:08
jtreminioHowdy y'all. Does anyone know what syntax keepalived's config files are in? Here's an example of it https://dpaste.de/PtmW06:10
jtreminioI need to programatically edit the config file but unsure if there's an existing parser for it06:10
Bashing-ombigdissaved: In the Nvidia driver build, one has to explicitly opt into DKMS . Do not know  about wireless .  I suspect it might be similar .06:11
bigdissavedI did it manually ish..06:14
asifhi06:15
asifhow can i access guest account files from my account06:17
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* ron__ a un reve, c'est que ubuntu fonctionne un jour :x06:21
ron__salut tous le monde06:21
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Bashing-om!fr | ron__06:33
ubotturon__: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.06:33
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Bashing-omMy end of session .. G nite .06:35
Mikerhinosis there a way to prevent Evolution from running on startup ? It uses some memory for nothing, because I never use it (and the only thing I have in my autostartup menu is Nvidia server settings)06:36
Mikerhinosgn06:36
tenrangesHello.06:53
tenrangesmilitaries06:53
tenrangesWhen I type that word my Ubuntu tells me it's a spelling mistake?06:53
LordSesshomaruhey guys, I'm using ubuntu as a quick and dirty NAT firewall and its decided not to resolve addresses for a few computers on the network, was never a problem till I migrated servers recently.06:56
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radar_hello?07:15
radar_how can I join any other channel?07:15
sandwitch/join #channelname07:16
LordSesshomaruhey guys, I'm using ubuntu as a quick and dirty NAT firewall and its decided not to resolve addresses for a few computers on the network, was never a problem till I migrated servers recently.07:16
nomicLordSesshomaru ask also on ubuntu forums, relevant section, networking - forums is very busy07:19
nomicformulate posting, all the information07:20
LordSesshomarunomic: ok07:20
nomiccos it isn't exactly peak hour here -- when it is ... it is a very specific q.07:20
DevAntoinehi07:29
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AmritpalI am the server admin of ubuntu and I want to check which user use how much cpu08:11
Amritpalis there any command08:11
Amritpalin ubuntu08:11
somsipAmritpal: a starting point http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/88613/how-is-it-possible-to-sort-ps-commands-cpu-field08:14
Fuchsaramlow: w08:14
Fuchssorry, mistab08:14
FuchsAmritpal: w08:14
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LonelyDanbohow do I create a file in /usr/bin/ ? sudo mousepad is giving errors that I'm not sure if I can safely ignore.08:24
somsipLonelyDanbo: best practise would be not to. gksudo might be what you need to avoid sudo errors though08:24
Baurinhi08:25
lyzeLonelyDanbo, which error?08:25
somsipLonelyDanbo: better to create in /usr/local/bin or even ~/bin depending on who will use it08:25
ducasseLonelyDanbo: if you want to add a local binary/script, use /usr/local/bin08:25
LonelyDanbohm... what's best practice for making a script to run from my toolbar then?08:25
somsipLonelyDanbo: put it somewhere in your path. No need to be in global path08:25
mozaI am trying to get my sound back. Apparently the daily build for alsa that I would like to try is failed. Do you know where I could get the latest previous daily? https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/alsa-daily/+packages  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=797c0491442d901ac5050e04ba157b1758d290c208:25
LonelyDanboin my path?08:26
ducasseLonelyDanbo: 'echo $PATH'08:26
LonelyDanboecho $PATH: command not found08:27
ducasseLonelyDanbo: don't type the '08:28
LonelyDanboI tried it the first time without quotes and it stalled.08:28
enesguncehi08:28
LonelyDanbooh. now it's working. strange.08:28
enesguncewho are u08:29
somsip!ot | enesgunce08:29
ubottuenesgunce: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:29
Noruxhi guys, short question: how do I burn an iso to an usb stick?08:29
ducasseLonelyDanbo: that is your users path. you can see /usr/local/bin in already in there, so the shell will find any executable files there.08:29
lyzeNorux, should it be bootable?08:30
Noruxlyze: yes08:30
LonelyDanbohm. same error trying to sudo mousepad in usr/local/bin . I guess I need to try gksudo08:30
k1lNorux: german? (looking at your ip) then read this guide https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Live-USB/08:30
somsipLonelyDanbo: yes, that's why I said to use gksudo08:30
LonelyDanbohm. not installed. how did I get this previous .sh file written without it?08:30
ducasseLonelyDanbo: why not create the file elsewhere and copy it across with sudo later?08:31
lyze!info usb-creator-gtk | Norux08:31
ubottuNorux: usb-creator-gtk (source: usb-creator): create a startup disk using a CD or disc image (for GNOME). In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.2 (xenial), package size 20 kB, installed size 152 kB (Only available for amd64; i386)08:31
lyzeNorux, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick08:31
LonelyDanbook. I'll see if that works...08:32
Noruxlyze: thanks, it works ;)08:32
AmritpalFuchs,  w - Show who is logged on and what they are doing. But I need how much capacity of cpu used by different users.08:33
ShekharReddyhow can i start mongo on ubuntu 14.0408:33
ShekharReddyservice is started but how can i access the db08:33
FuchsArcaire: w should also show CPU, if you need more: you can use ps08:33
ShekharReddyinside it08:33
Fuchssee the link above08:33
ducasseAmritpal: read the man page, look for 'JCPU'.08:34
LonelyDanbook. I also need to set execution permission on the file as well, right? something +x ?08:34
lyzeLonelyDanbo, chmod u+x <file>08:34
LonelyDanbowhat's the 'u' for?08:35
lyzeuser08:35
ducasseLonelyDanbo: you probably want to use 'chmod +x08:35
ducasseLonelyDanbo: 'chmod +x', sorry. execute for all.08:35
LonelyDanbook, thanks.08:36
CrackpotmarkHow can I force purge a broken cgroupfs-mount?08:36
bond_hey,guys08:37
Crackpotmarkthe normal force purge fails because it fails to stop the service (even though its not actually running)08:37
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kalibalittle question: when i use a long password for my server LCRT (Linux control remote tool) does not accept the password. i think its to long. can anyone help me?08:57
Zta77In Ubuntu 14.04 I launch ccsm > Window Mangement > Scale > Bindings, and bind "<Super>Escape" to Initiate Window Picker. But it doesn't work. Is this standard behavior?  It's annoying.08:58
auronandace|workZta77: if you are using unity then you can see the default keyboard bindings by holding the win key08:59
Zta77auronandace|work: I know. And my newly assigned key combination will also show up. But it still doesn't work.09:03
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zakineed help09:17
Spookanzaki: With? We dont read minds in here.09:19
zakiVerification of your TeamViewer version failed! TeamViewer will quit for security reasons. Please reinstall TeamViewer09:20
zakiafter installing teamviewer,when i tried to open it, it gives me this error.09:20
zakihey Spookan !09:21
ducassezaki: talk to the people behind teamviewer09:28
zakiwhere?09:28
ducassezaki: wherever you got it from.09:28
lyzezaki, https://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/09:28
DSDhellp09:29
brunch875Doesn't that simply mean that your teamviewer is updated and you should update it?09:29
zakitryed with latest version.09:30
DSD./exit09:30
brunch875Did you try reinstalling it like the message says?09:31
zakiyap, brunch87509:35
zakibut nothing happened.09:35
* brunch875 shrugs 😖09:35
bazhangcontact teamviewer as suggested then zaki09:36
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zakibazhang, (y)09:41
bpbPlease help me! Any amount helps! I'm going to be homeless unless I have $500 by Wednesday! Here's my bitcoin address: 1PZGpx9MqpiEF951d6dRYVirFMZyQdBk7B09:44
bazhangwrong channel bpb09:45
thebastlhi, i'm building a script based on bluetoothctl and i want to get rid of all the [NEW],[UPD],[CHG] messages on the output. someone here knows how to disable them?09:47
bpbPlease help me! Any amount helps! I'm going to be homeless unless I have $500 by Wednesday! Here's my bitcoin address: 1PZGpx9MqpiEF951d6dRYVirFMZyQdBk7B09:48
Spookanbpb: Get a job?09:48
bpbSpookan: in 2 days?!09:48
bazhangstop asking here bpb09:48
bpbi'm trying my best09:49
ppfi'm on 14.04, wish to upgrade to 16.04 lts. release-upgrades are configured to be lts-only. if i run do-release-upgrade it tells me there's no new release.09:49
bpbplease any amount help09:49
bpbhelps09:49
ppfis 16.04 not marked as an lts release? why else might do-release-upgrade not find it?09:51
k1l!ltsupgrade  | ppf09:51
ubottuppf: Users of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st.09:51
ppfk1l: alright, ty09:52
k1lppf: if you still want to upgrade before its officially opened on the LTS path you need the -d switch for the development upgrade09:52
ppfhow stable is that?09:53
k1lif you ware concerned about stableness then dont run things labeled as "development" :)09:54
ppf:)09:58
ppfuntil juli, is there a backport/ppa of a recent cmake?09:58
stevenmorning, whats the forciest way to remove a package09:59
stevenlike, the killall -9 way of removing one10:00
abhishek_hi10:00
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abhigenie92Any suggestions to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1589006/comments/2510:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1589006 in snapd (Ubuntu) "Failed unmounting Mount unit for nvidia support in snappy" [Critical,In progress]10:01
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gvs77Hi, I just installed an Ubuntu 16.04 server, want to have it connect with  openvpn to my network.  On 14.04 I just put a conf file in /etc/openvpn and restarted the service, but that no longer works?10:07
ikoniait works fine10:08
ikoniaif you put the right config file in the right place openvpn will pickup the config10:08
gvs77ikonia10:08
gvs77ikonia: I have a standard .ovpn file that I renamed to .conf10:08
ikoniathats a client file10:09
gvs77That config file worked on 14.0410:09
ikonianot a server file normally10:09
gvs77ikonia: correct, the ubunut 16.04 is a client to my openvpn server10:09
ikoniathen what service are you restarting ?10:09
ikoniaas the client is "on demand" not a service10:09
gvs77ikonia: I see two services with systemd, openvpn and openvpn@, google pointed me to the @ as the client service.10:10
gvs77ikonia: According to google, I should be able to systemctl openvpn@configfile start10:10
ikoniasystemctl is nothing to do with openvpn or systemd10:11
ikoniasorry - I worded that a mess10:12
gvs77systemctl controls systemd, client vpns are also started as services10:12
ikoniaI meant systemctl will start a service, the client is not a service,10:12
gvs77:-)10:12
ikoniathe client being launched as a service is just a wrapper for basically typing openvpn $110:12
gvs77ikonia: Yes, they are started as services10:12
ikoniaso that you don't need a controlling tty10:12
gvs77indeed, but it will do that at boot10:12
ikoniano different than say using network manager10:12
ikoniayes, I can see the value to that10:13
ikoniahowever, would it not make sense to validate the config file first by trying to launch openvpn your.config10:13
gvs77ikonia: I did and that works10:13
ikoniaok - so the actual config file works, thats a good start10:13
ikoniagvs77: so the next logical setp would be to verify the systemd unit file to see exactly what/how it's launching10:14
gvs77ikonia: I just rebooted the VM and it started up the VPN10:18
gvs77Just needed a reboo?10:18
gvs77reboot10:18
ikoniagvs77: that seems odd that it would require a reboot10:21
gvs77ikonia: yes...10:22
gvs77But it works now, so I'm happy ;-)10:22
gvs77thanks10:22
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voldymanhas anyone tried install clang-3.8 on ubuntu 12.0410:33
voldymanor any other recent version of clang10:34
auronandace|work!info clang10:37
ubottuclang (source: llvm-defaults (0.33ubuntu3)): C, C++ and Objective-C compiler (LLVM based). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:3.8-33ubuntu3 (xenial), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB10:37
voldymanmy problem is that i need to run it on 12.0410:37
IsodeDemoTTtest new user10:42
Lopehow can I mount a ZFS volume? the new guide does not say: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/ZFS10:43
ducasseLope: they are automatically mounted, you set the 'mountpoint' property on the datasets to point where you want it mounted.10:52
ducasseLope: you can also use 'zfs mount/umount' to do it manually.10:52
Lopeokay, thanks10:53
Lopeducasse: I made a pool 'foo', then a fs in that pool. pool/010:53
LopeBut for some reason zfs seems to be mounting the /foo and /foo/0 ?10:54
LopeSo it seems like there's a root filesystem, then the sub filesystems are there just for the ability to set limits on them?10:54
ducasseLope: as i said, you can set the 'mountpoint' property to be wherever you want.10:55
Lopeyes, I'm asking why foo (the pool name) is mounted10:56
LopeI assumed that a pool is not a filesystem?10:56
ducasseLope: a pool also contains a filesystem, but you can divide it up further into datasetz or zvols if you want/need. it's actually really nice.10:57
LopeI see :) thanks10:57
square1hI gUYS,11:00
square1I'm installing from usb drive, tested it and it was ok - on the drive selection screen i leave the default options picked and click Continue, then I select the drive I want to use and choose "Install Now" but nothing happens, well it refreshes the screen but it doesn't mvoe on11:01
lapionHello can anyone check what groups the user _apt is supposed to have ?11:09
Ben64there is no user _apt11:09
lapionW: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file '/var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/adobe-flashplugin_20160512.1.orig.tar.gz' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)11:12
Ben64lapion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/154328011:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1522675 in synaptic (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1543280 /root/.synaptic/ not created due to locking status" [Low,Confirmed]11:14
Ben64theres a way in there to sort of fix it11:14
ArcherGodsonhi all11:19
ArcherGodsoni just install elementary os11:19
square1I'm installing from usb drive, tested it and it was ok - on the drive selection screen i leave the default options picked and click Continue, then I select the drive I want to use and choose "Install Now" but nothing happens, well it refreshes the screen but it doesn't mvoe on11:20
k1lArcherGodson: if you have questions regarding elementary OS better use their support. their website links to their forums and irc channels.11:22
BluesKajHi folks11:23
lapionBen64, thanks11:23
ppfafter upgrading to xenial, sound output is gone11:24
ppfwere there any changes to cause that?11:24
sudomarizecould i get a hand getting my gtx 960 working on 16.04? Currently i'm getting black screen after boot11:34
ArcherGodsonk1l, u r so qute, thankyou11:35
bognoshello, I am trying to 'rsync -rtvu /media/bognos/a/ /media/bognos/b/' but after a few GBs 'a' gets unmounted. I have movies on 'a' which I can watch normally is only when I rsync or cp between the two external HDDs this happens. Any ideas, this is dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/17059571/? Thanks.11:43
ikoniabognos: is it a usb disk ?11:44
Triffid_Hunterbognos: looks like your disk temporarily disconnects, possibly from overheating or insufficient power11:45
bognosYes, 3TB HDD in an enclosure11:45
ikoniaprobably being flooded11:45
ikoniathe file system also needs fixing11:45
ikoniaso before you do anything, fix the file system11:45
bognoscould be power, it is on an extension cable11:45
bognosikonia: how would I do that please?11:45
bognosTriffid_Hunter: disks are cool to touch11:46
BillyzekidHello, anybody uses libwacom?11:46
Billyzekiddoens't work on my laptop11:47
Triffid_Hunterbognos: extension cable? that's quite likely the problem11:47
RahulANHi11:57
RahulANhow to burn iso image in cd , i used cdrecord and growisofs but i am getting an error saying /dev/dvd: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 011:58
phreekbirdtry brasareo11:59
RahulANphreekbird: is there command to do so?11:59
phreekbirdsudo apt-get install brasero12:01
RahulANphreekbird: cd rom is not detecting12:03
phreekbirdare you sure the disk you have in it is blank, i have had issues where it wasn't or was scratched, and the recording drive just refused to read it.12:04
RahulANphreekbird: it is new ..12:04
RahulANWith nothing written and no scratches12:05
phreekbirdhuh the only time i have had this problem before ... either the drive was pinned out as slave/master when it should have been the other, or the drive was just bad. I had to replace it as I had a bad drive.12:07
BluesKajphreekbird, make sure it's first in the boot sequence on the uefi/bios12:11
sudomarizewhen doing dd on a usb, should i use sdb or sdb1?12:23
tellingDoes changes to /etc/profile do anything for the root user?12:24
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ppfdepends on whether you want to read/write sdb or sdb112:24
tewardsudomarize: also depends on whether the input file is a partition image or a full disk image12:25
sudomarizeppf: i'm trying to put a boot image on my usb12:25
sudomarizeno idea about whether it should be partition image or full disk image12:25
sudomarizeteward: ^12:26
tewardsudomarize: fdisk -l /path/to/image12:26
BluesKajsudomarize, the standard command is sdb12:26
tewardsudomarize: if you get output it's likely a full disk image, then you write to sdb12:26
ToFoo#12:26
sudomarizeok thanks12:26
tewardsuch that of=/dev/sdb12:26
guest-21hCIBhi12:36
guest-21hCIBwelcome. whats your problem12:37
Red_MI have a weird issue with su and sudo12:38
Red_Msu takes ages to get to a terminal12:38
Red_Mhowever sudo is fine and gets to a terminal instantly12:39
Red_Many ideas?12:39
Red_Mthis is su'ing to any user, even myself12:39
guest-21hCIBok, you need a dating site, right12:39
guest-21hCIBwelcome. whats your problem12:41
cbfmchello12:42
guest-21hCIBwelcome. whats your problem12:42
cbfmccan anyone help me out with installing minitube on my ubuntu 14.0412:42
guest-21hCIByou need a dating site, right?12:43
guest-21hCIByou are wrong here. srry12:43
guest-21hCIBhi12:43
guest-21hCIBhello12:44
guest-21hCIBhi12:44
guest-21hCIBhi12:44
guest-21hCIBhi12:44
guest-21hCIBhi12:44
guest-21hCIBhi12:44
Picibye12:45
Erbinscbfmc .. whats the problem with installing minitube ?12:46
doevdoes someone know a toll for formating iptables output?12:46
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pac1d12:56
Harishello all13:00
Hariswhere's the ssh or sudo access info logged on 14.4 LTS ?13:00
HarisI can't find /var/log/secure as present on centos. there's nothing relevant in /var/log/syslog13:01
square1hrm13:02
square1this is stupid13:02
square1I'm installing from usb drive, tested it and it was ok - on the drive selection screen i leave the default options picked and click Continue, then I select the drive I want to use and choose "Install Now" but nothing happens, well it refreshes the screen but it doesn't mvoe on13:03
CrackpotmarkHaris, /var/log/auth.log13:04
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grey1Anyone here know JACK/alsa? I'm running Ubuntu Studio and trying to achieve lower latency, but I get huge underruns whenever I set JACK to anything near ~ 2ms latency. I'd like some help trying to identify where my bottleneck is13:33
Picigrey1: the folks in #ubuntustudio are rather knowledgable13:34
grey1Pici: tried over there, nobody was active. I'm going to check back there this evening13:34
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Ntemisi have some issues with libtool13:37
Ntemislibtool: Version mismatch error.  This is libtool 2.4.2, but the13:37
Ntemislibtool: definition of this LT_INIT comes from libtool 2.4.6.13:37
Ntemisi have downgraded automake 1.15 to 1.14 but still error persist13:38
Ntemisany help?13:38
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hellcookHi! I need to resize my root partition, since I'm running out of space. I have an unused partition after the root one, so I just need to extend the root. However, I am having troubles booting from a livecd / liveusb (livecd on a usb key). With a livecd the screen stays black, with a liveusb I have a bunch of errors printed: "mmc0 unknown controller version (3). You may experience problem", "nouveau0000:01:00.0: disp: outp 03:0006:013:42
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BluesKajhellcook, run sudo apt autoremove && sudo apt autoclean to rid your / of old and unecessary data13:46
hellcookBluesKaj: thank you. I've often read it is not advised to mix apt and aptitude, and I usually use aptitude. Do you confirm?13:49
BluesKaj!aptitude | hellcook13:50
ubottuhellcook: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter multiarch problems on non-updated 12.04 installs, see  http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.13:50
BluesKajaptitude still works in most cases , but it is getting a bit old , hellcook13:51
hellcookBluesKaj: thanks for the information13:51
hellcookubottu: thank you too13:51
ubottuhellcook: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:51
hellcookright, my bad13:52
hellcooknow I get the "!aptitude | hellcook" ^^13:52
BluesKajnothing bad about it , just a small mistake13:52
hellcookBluesKaj: Can I use the apt commands you suggested although I always install packages with aptitude?13:58
BluesKajhellcook, the common belief is that you either use one or the exclusively, once you start using apt don't go back to aptitude, mixing commands used to cuase peoblems between them , but I'm not sure about whether it does anymore.14:00
BluesKajI just apt for all install, update/upgrade and remove etc commands14:01
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hellcookBluesKaj: "mixing commands used to cuase peoblems between them" that's what I thought14:02
hellcookBluesKaj: I'll probably use "apt" on my next install14:03
hellcookBluesKaj: thank you14:03
BluesKajhellcook, if you change don't go back is the rule afaik14:03
sh0thi guys at the shutdown sometimes i get: "a stop job is running...." and it takes forever to shutdown. The processes involved are "c2 for user..." "lightdm..." "cryptswap1...."14:07
emmethi14:13
ptnecnivHello, I am trying to install ubuntu 14.04 on a laptop via USB. After booting from USB and selecting either "install ubuntu" or "try ubuntu without installing," it hangs on the boot splash indefinitely14:15
ptnecnivAny advice?14:15
lyze!patience | ptnecniv14:17
ubottuptnecniv: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/14:17
ptnecnivhehe14:18
ioriaptnecniv,  highlight 'try ubuntu' press Tab or 'e' or F6  edit the kernel line and remove 'quite splash', then F10 or enter14:18
MacroManIm' trying to build the obscure package scolorq, but I'm getting unkonwn option -parallel using g++-514:19
hellcookptnecniv: I'm having a quite similar problem right now. I don't have the page anymore, but what you describe reminds me of something I saw about an hour ago: you could have a machine configured to boot in uefi and somehow the livecd is booted in bios mode.14:19
MacroManWas this ever an option on previous versions of g++?14:20
ptnecnivioria: trying to boot now14:21
ptnecnivioria: seems i'm getting a kernel panic "not syncing: attempted to kill init!"14:21
ioriaptnecniv,  you removed something else ...14:22
JackJoneshi there folks14:22
JackJoneshow do I use 'find' to find a file in the current dir and all its subdirectories14:23
zykotick9JackJones: "find ./ FOO"14:23
ptnecnivioria: i dont think i did, but i will try again14:23
JackJonescan I search for partial of the file name zykotick914:23
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zykotick9JackJones: yes14:24
ioriaptnecniv,  removing quite splash just lets you boot in text mode14:24
zykotick9JackJones: also using -i will remove CaSe as an issue14:24
ptnecnivioria: right, which happened14:24
ioriaptnecniv,  ok14:24
ptnecnivioria: ok so i only removed the words quiet splash this time14:24
ioriaptnecniv,  good14:25
ptnecniv(as i thought i did last time)14:25
ptnecnivshould the line end with --?14:25
ioriayep14:25
ptnecnivok, i'm going to boot.14:25
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ptnecnivioria: seems it's not liking nouveau14:26
tominatorHello friends! I was wondering, how would I add an image to grub? I'd like to make it so that a recovery CD ISO is a boot option when I hold shift when Linux starts. I have the ISO and a live CD for changing things if I need.14:26
JackJoneswhere do I put the -i zykotick9 its saying "unknown predicate"14:26
ioriaptnecniv,  so you may need nomodeset parameter14:26
ptnecnivgot a crap tone of SCED_ERRORs14:26
hellcookwell, I am going try again. Nice afternoon'14:26
ioriaptnecniv,  gtx 9xx something ?14:26
ptnecnivioria: perhaps. it's a new work laptop. i need to check14:27
ptnecnivioria: although the thing that ends up killing it is a segfault in libply14:27
tominatorHello friends! I was wondering, how would I add an image to grub? I'd like to make it so that a recovery CD ISO is a boot option when I hold shift when Linux starts. I have the ISO of the disc and a live CD for changing things if I need.14:28
ptnecnivioria: GTX960M14:28
ioriaptnecniv,  right14:28
ioriaptnecniv,  in addition of removing quite splash , add  nomodeset14:29
ptnecnivioria: what does that do? something with kernel modules i presume?14:30
ioria!nomodeset | ptnecniv14:30
ubottuptnecniv: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter14:30
square1Hi. I'm installing from usb drive, tested it and it was ok - on the drive selection screen i leave the default options picked and click Continue, then I select the drive I want to use and choose "Install Now" but nothing happens, well it refreshes the screen but it doesn't mvoe on14:30
tominatorioria: Try going to the additional drivers menu in updates in the system preferences menu14:31
tominatorioria: I have a GTX750 and that did it for me14:31
ptnecnivioria: seems like it might have worked. it's now trying to restore my sound card state14:33
ptnecnivand that failed14:33
ptnecniv:/14:33
ptnecnivi suspect it's hanging but i'm not sure14:33
ioriaptnecniv,  let it run14:33
JackJoneshey, can i list the files in a directory and its subdirectories according to their size like say less than 1GB or more than 1GB14:34
ptnecnivioria: ok, it seems to just be sitting there, but i'll check back in 5 minutes14:34
ioriaptnecniv,  ok14:35
explosiveJackJones: yeah, find -size +1G14:37
JackJonesnice!14:37
JackJonesthank you so much explosive bro14:37
explosiveJackJones: no problem14:37
tomleoWhen I do alt-tab to switch windows, "Files" file manager windows do not show up14:39
tomleothis is only after upgrading Ubuntu14:39
tomleoshould I file a bug?14:39
tominatorHow can I create a bootloader that works on UEFI and BIOS?14:45
tomleoI'm gonna go ahead of afile a bug...14:45
IsodeDemoTest message14:46
cscfIsodeDemo, hi.  Welcome to IRC14:46
Fred78Test what14:46
tominatorCan anyone here help?14:48
cscfFred78, IRC, of course14:48
cscftominator, grub works with UEFI and BIOS, although you need different settings.  Look at grub docs.14:48
tominatorCan I do that on a copy I already have installed?14:49
tominatorActually, I get it, nevermind14:49
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explosivetominator: you'd need an efi partition with a bios-boot partition for legacy14:49
tominatorOn a different note,  how can I remove grub from a computer with windows 10?14:49
tominatorAH! How do I do that?14:50
ptnecnivioria: still hanging after "starting restore sound card state" failed14:50
explosivetominator: read the arch wiki14:50
square1anyone at all? Surely I can look at a log or something?14:50
tominatorarch? What if I have Ubuntu?14:50
god__hello14:51
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explosivetominator: install grub-efi-amd64-signed while booted in uefi mode, and then boot into legacy mode from a live usb and install grub-pc so it installs it to the bios-boot partition14:51
explosivetominator: read about uefi, legacy, gpt, and bios-boot partitions14:51
ioriaptnecniv,  try    with   nouveau.blacklist=1 instead of nomodeset14:51
god__hey14:51
tominatorAmazing, thank you14:52
tominatorone last thing14:52
tominatorI was wondering, how would I add an image to grub? I'd like to make it so that a recovery CD ISO is a boot option when I hold shift when Linux starts. I have the ISO and a live CD for changing things if I need.14:52
xafarderrHi, what kind of risks I am exposed to running an EOL Ubuntu distro?14:54
somsipxafarderr: all of them that have been discovered since EOL date14:54
k1l_xafarderr: a lot. see ubuntu.com/usn14:54
xafarderrbut there are no virus in Linux practically14:54
jfo2hello14:55
explosivetominator: add a custom menu, don't know about adding an image14:55
explosive/etc/grub.d/40_custom14:55
tominatorHow do I add a custom menu? :P14:55
explosivesearch google for ubuntu grub iso booting14:55
k1l_xafarderr: not virus like on windows. but programs with known security issues that get no updates on EOL ubuntus. which is basically the same since it will make others use your system.14:55
explosiveadd that in 40_custom and update-grub14:55
tominatorAlright, I'll do that14:56
tominatorexplosive: Thank you14:56
explosivetominator: no problem14:56
xafarderrthanks kil_14:56
xafarderrk1l_, thanks but I don't see the problems14:56
k1l_xafarderr: that is a huge problem.14:57
de-factoxafarderr all discovered security problems remain unpatched if you use EOL ubuntu, even when they got published, so such systems may contain known exploitable security flaws.14:57
xafarderrie navigating porno websites14:57
xafarderrxD14:57
ptnecnivioria: that worked!14:57
ioriaptnecniv,  lucky guy :-)14:58
jfo2an application i want to use requires data to be in in /home/<user>. i have a bigger and faster drive attached which i would like to use for multiple things such as users home directories and data store for mysql and so on. so if i mount the drive to /mnt/data1, with respect to performance, should i symlink /home to /mnt/data1 or should i create a mount point between /home and /mnt/data1/home ?14:58
ptnecnivioria: what will i have to do post install for the GPU to work14:58
k1l_xafarderr: the internet doesnt need more botnet clients. so dont run EOL ubuntu versions14:58
xafarderrok14:58
xafarderrthen I'll have to upgrade14:59
ioriaptnecniv,  you may need to add  a ppa  and install nvidia-36414:59
xafarderrbut I was very confortable with ubuntu 12.04 classic gnome14:59
xafarderreverything was well configured and organized14:59
k1l_xafarderr: if you like the gnome2 look take a look at xfce, mate or cinnamon. they are all included in latest ubuntus14:59
ioriaptnecniv,  something like this : http://askubuntu.com/questions/768959/ubuntu-16-04-nvidia-drivers-for-geforce-gtx-960m15:00
xafarderrwell there is also gnome flashback15:00
xafarderrthanks in any case k1l_15:00
ptnecnivioria: cool, thanks15:03
ptnecnivioria: seems my luck ran out. the system hung while i was connected to wifi. i rebooted and did the nouveau.blacklist=1 thing, and now i'm stuck on "NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#3 stuck for 22s! (gpu-manager:1765)"15:14
ppfso, anyone up for a sound issue?15:14
ppfupgraded to xenial, now when i try to run aplay, this is in the pa output:15:14
ppfI: [pulseaudio] protocol-native.c: Connection died.15:15
ptnecnivioria: and now i'm getting a lot of reports of stalled / blocked takss15:15
ptnecnivtasks*15:15
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ioriaptnecniv,  i guess you can only reboot15:16
ppfand i can't seem to convince it to actually output any sound15:16
ppfideas?15:16
LMNTRIXhai15:16
LMNTRIXwhats the topic?15:17
ptnecnivioria: i found an arch forum post sugguesting disabling the watchdog. worth a shot?15:17
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ioriaptnecniv,  idk, but seems a bug  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/153040515:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1530405 in linux (Ubuntu) "NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 22s! [kerneloops:814]" [High,Triaged]15:18
ptnecnivioria: so i'm boned?15:19
backbox_hii15:20
ioriaptnecniv,  don't know, you can try ubuntu 14.04 or Lubuntu and then install ubuntu-desktop and see if it's getting better15:20
ptnecnivioria: this is 14.0415:21
BluesKajppf, which audio chip and driver?15:21
ioriaptnecniv,  right.... then 16.0415:21
LMNTRIXwhy my bootloader not direcly boot ubuntu after selecting ubuntu, but boot GRUB & must select ubuntu again?15:22
LMNTRIXim dualbooting w/ OSX with Clover botloader (UEFI)15:22
ppfBluesKaj: pacmd lists the default one as "HDA Intel PCH"15:22
ppfALC89215:23
square1Hi. I'm installing from usb drive, tested it and it was ok - on the drive selection screen i leave the default options picked and click Continue, then I select the drive I want to use and choose "Install Now" but nothing happens, well it refreshes the screen but it doesn't mvoe on15:23
CryptoSiDHi, is there a way to copy a file using cp, but if the file exist it create a .1, example, cp /tmp/test /root/, but once the test file exist i want to keep it, so it create test.1 instead of overwriting test15:24
ptnecnivioria: *sigh*, i'll give it a go15:24
ppfBluesKaj: kernel driver is snd_hda_intel15:24
BluesKajppf, right so your auio driver is snd-hda-intel . Run sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel, if there's no output then the driver is properly loaded15:24
ioriaptnecniv,  ok15:24
ppf(fwiw, there is a second card/chip on my graphics card)15:24
ppfBluesKaj: one of the first things i checked, driver is loaded15:25
BluesKajppf , well it's usually a hdmi link to your sound card that appears as a second chip15:26
ppfyeah15:26
BluesKajdid the sound quit after an upgrade?15:27
ppfuh, this is interesting: if i move the volume slider in pavucontrol, i hear the blobb sound!15:27
ppfyes, sound was fine before15:27
BluesKajok , check that alsamixer didn't enable automute again, that seems to be a problem lately15:28
ppfautomute is off15:29
BluesKajrun aplay -l again and see if you get the pa error15:29
ppfno, there is no error per se15:30
ppfwhen i run pavucontrol, i get "I: [pulseaudio] client.c: Created 36 "Native client (UNIX socket client)"15:30
ppfin the pa log15:30
ppfwhen i run aplay with some wav file, it immediately prints "Connection died", long before aplay terminates15:31
ppf(for the aplay client, not the pavucontrol client)15:31
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BluesKajppf just run the wav file in another player15:32
ppftried that, will retry15:32
ppfokay, awkward. VLC plays it with sound15:33
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ppfnow what's wrong with aplay?15:34
ppfor, more importantly, chrome, which has no sound either15:34
BluesKajnever used aplay as a audio player15:35
ppfme neither, only to test audio output15:35
ppfso let's focus on chrome. no audio there15:35
onearrowsq.15:36
BluesKajppf  you probly need the pepperflash plugin15:36
ppfwhat's that?15:36
ppfflash player i guess?15:36
ppfi don't need/use flash15:36
ppfif i browse to anything with sound (e.g. the wav file i just played in vlc), there is nothing about that in the pa log15:37
ppfso chrome doesn't attempt to talk to pa, it seems?15:38
BluesKajodd tho , chrome has it's own version of flash15:38
ppfyes. i don't care about flash anyways15:38
Petohi, can you please help me with installing AMD driver on Ubuntu 16.04?15:40
k1l_Peto: there is no fglrx anymore since 16.04.15:40
BluesKajppf, pulse is pita for me , usually if you don't need simultaneous audio sources, intel hda and alsa can run fine as a team without pulse in the mix mucking things up, but that's my view and experience15:40
PCatineanheelp15:42
ppfi actually want to use simultaneous sinks at some point15:42
surgeAre nvidia video cards more stable than amd video cards on ubuntu?15:42
PCatineanI did a update on ubuntu 16.04 and now fonts are ALL messed up in certain website15:42
PCatineanOversized and very strange15:42
ppfso i'm stuck with pa15:42
BluesKajwell, you can always reinstall it if you need pulse , it's not difficult15:43
ppfit has to work first ;)15:44
PCatineanany1?15:45
ppfhow could i debug the connection with chrome?15:45
jake__Hello - I installed OpenVPN on Ubuntu desktop 14.04 with "sudo apt-get install openvpn" but I cannot find the directory where the .ovpn file should be saved. Does anyone know the config directory path?15:46
BluesKajppf, it seems pulse  has a problrm lately with misdirecting the audio to the hdmi outputs by default15:46
Petok1l_: and there is no option?15:47
BluesKajjake__, install neteork-manager-openvpn as well15:47
BluesKajnetwork15:47
k1l_Peto: amd doesnt support the latest xorg versions that are shipped from 16.04 on for fglrx. amd now supports the new amd_gpu driver in the kernel which bases on the open source radeon driver.15:48
PCatineanAnyone on font problems?15:48
jake__BluesKaj: Ah, thanks.  Could you provide a link to the instructions?15:49
Petok1l_: it seems that my card isnt in the kernel: I became this error message: Failed to build shader variant15:50
jake__BluesKaj: Got it, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager.15:51
BluesKajjake__, sudo apt install network-manager-openvpn15:51
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PCatineanhello is anyone here?16:01
BluesKajnope16:01
BluesKajPCatinean, just ask your question16:01
PCatineanBluesKaj, I did but got no answer16:02
PCatineanI just did a new update on my 16.04 and fonts in some websites is completely messed up16:03
PCatineanthe design too16:03
PCatineantested on multiple browsers16:03
PCatineanuhh sh** even here in the irc clinet it's getting cut16:03
jfo2anyone? :(16:03
PCatineanI do not see the entire sentence I am writing16:03
PCatineaneverything is messed up16:04
BluesKajPCatinean, system fonts need to be reset perhaps16:04
PCatineanI did it with the unity tweak tool, nothing happened16:05
BluesKajPCatinean, have you rebooted since th upgrade ?16:06
PCatineanI can only see until "upgra" then it's blank16:06
PCatineanYes I have16:06
PCatineanNow it gets even shorter16:06
PCatineanI have no idea what's going on16:06
BluesKajok , check your input devices, keyboard and mouse16:07
PCatineanfor?16:07
PCatineankeyboard and mo, I assuem mouse16:07
BluesKajyes16:07
PCatineanCheck them with what16:07
PCatineanhmmmm16:08
BluesKajsystem settings or whatever unitu uses for input devices settings16:08
PCatineanI think I acidentaly touched the external monitor thing on my laptop16:09
PCatineanand it might be why it's acting up16:09
BluesKajexternal monitor "thing" ?16:09
PCatineanbutton that enabled activation or deactivation of external displays connected to the notebook16:10
PCatineanmakes the laptop screen flash and/or the attached display perhipherals16:10
PCatineanBrb reboot16:11
square1Hi. I'm installing from usb drive, tested it and it was ok - on the drive selection screen i leave the default options picked and click Continue, then I select the drive I want to use and choose "Install Now" but nothing happens, well it refreshes the screen but it doesn't mvoe on16:12
PCatineanSwitched to nvidia propiretary dirvers, nothing changed16:12
PCatineanthis is totally messed up16:12
PCatineanany advice?16:14
PCatineanBluesKaj?16:14
BluesKajPCatinean, I still think you should check your keyboard model, layout and other options in input devices16:15
__Myst__Hello16:15
__Myst__I'm on version 14.04 LTS, and I would like to upgrade to 16.04 LTS16:15
__Myst__Most websites I find mention either running `sudo do-release-upgrade` or `sudo update-manager`16:16
__Myst__What should I actually do if I just want a direct upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04?16:16
__Myst__I'd like if somebody could tell me if I would need to change any config files/etc, too, after upgrading.16:16
__Myst__Thank you in advance16:16
BluesKajmybit, update and upgrade your packages first , then run sudo do-release-upgrade16:16
MonkeyDust!ltsupgrade | __Myst__16:17
ubottu__Myst__: Users of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st.16:17
BluesKaj__Myst__, ^16:17
__Myst__BluesKaj: By mybit do you actually mean __Myst__?16:17
__Myst__MonkeyDust: So, should I wait for July 21st to upgrade?16:17
BluesKajsome users don't want to wait til july16:17
abarthello16:17
MonkeyDust__Myst__  yes, but you can backup and fresh install whenever you want16:18
abarthow to make mediaserver my deskop?16:18
BluesKaj__Myst__, yes , why do yoy have to __ in front , it's pita16:18
MatumarosHi, how hard would it be to change the DE to GNOME?16:18
MonkeyDustMatumaros  install gnome-shell, logout, switch, login16:19
__Myst__BluesKaj: I forgot the actual reason, to be honest. Your client should be smart enough to fill in the __, no?16:19
__Myst__Aren't we in July right now?16:19
BluesKajno it's june16:20
MatumarosMonkeyDust: I wasn't able to get Ubuntu GNOME to work, so my idea was to install Ubuntu first and then GNOME16:20
__Myst__Is there a "changelog" for 16.04.1?16:20
__Myst__As in, so I can see if I want to wait16:21
abarthelp me,i wan share my media on local network, how to make mediaserver my deskop?16:21
c1_I have lubuntu 16.04 in an vbox vm the windows manager keeps crashing16:21
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Jakey3any ideas?16:22
BluesKajabart, install ubuntu on the media server if it doen't have an OS16:22
MonkeyDustJakey3  about wht16:23
Jakey3the window manager keeps crashing16:23
Jakey3when i drag a link16:23
Jakey3and i have to restart the vm16:23
MonkeyDustJakey3  guess i entered after you described the issue, start from the begining16:24
merpnderpWhat's the latest on Ubuntu touch phones? I see the Meizu Pro 5 is sold out. Is that available in the US when it comes back in stock? Is Canonical still pushing hard to get into the phone biz?16:24
abartblueskaj, u mean i cannot make mediaserver on my ubuntu desktop?16:24
Jakey3MonkeyDust,  I have lubuntu 16.04 in an vbox vm the windows manager keeps crashing16:24
MonkeyDust!phone | merpnderp16:24
ubottumerpnderp: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch16:25
Jakey3when i drag a hyper text link the windows manager keeps crashing16:25
merpnderpthanks MonkeyDust16:25
BluesKajabart, is your media server located on a separate disk or pc ?16:25
MonkeyDustJakey3  oh, you changed your nickname ... if you don't get an answer here, try in #vbox or #virtualbox16:27
Jakey3ok16:27
abarti wan share my media16:28
abartmedia located in my deskop16:28
asifhi16:30
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BluesKajabart, what do want to do with the media on your desktop? You can use VLC to stream it over your network if that's what you're asking.16:34
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MatumarosI'm looking for a good laptop, about 15", 4GB RAM, anti-glare screen, light, and quiet fans which are on the side; any recommendations?16:40
MatumarosOf course it should work with Linux Ubuntu :)16:40
MonkeyDustMatumaros  that's for #ububntu-offtopic16:42
MonkeyDustMatumaros  that's for #ubuntu-offtopic16:42
MatumarosMonkeyDust: thanks, I'll ask there16:43
xanguaMatumaros: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed16:44
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jake__BluesKaj: OpenVPN works! Thanks for the tip.16:44
BluesKajMatumaros, so wiping your hard drive creatin an new partition table and formatting to ext4 didn't work ?16:45
BluesKajjake__, you're welcome , glad it works  :-)16:45
MatumarosBluesKaj: I didn't try that yet, I'm looking for a replacement for my laptop right now16:45
BluesKajMatumaros, all new lapyops have the uefi/bios system , even the pcs with linux preinstalled do.16:47
MatumarosBluesKaj: Yeah, I don't mind, as long as it works. Also, I'm not necessarily looking for one that has Linux pre-installed, just one on which it works16:48
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BluesKajMatumaros, it works on Lenovo laptops , they're quite linux friendly16:49
MatumarosBluesKaj: Yeah, I'm looking at one16:50
BluesKajmy G500 runs great with Kubuntu Xenial16:51
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__Myst__BluesKaj: Isn't Lenovo the one which installed malware by default?16:56
MonkeyDustmalware?16:57
MonkeyDust__Myst__  exciting! source?16:57
BluesKaj__Myst__, no, unless you call windows 8.1 with bloatware16:57
__Myst__MonkeyDust: reddit frontpage that one time :p16:57
__Myst__BluesKaj: I would :)p16:57
BluesKajwell ,  __Myst__ I removed windows 8.1 and installed Kubuntu within an hr of receiving the laptop16:59
__Myst__BluesKaj: not quick enough, send whoever mailed you the laptop a usb stick with kubuntu beforehand so you get it with kubuntu right away16:59
BluesKaj__Myst__, I prefer to do my own OS installations17:00
__Myst__BluesKaj: Ubuntu is actually my first linux, I chose it for its ease of use17:00
__Myst__I plan on switching to Arch once I get a new computer17:00
DJones__Myst__: Yes hey did to their defaut oem installs, so doesn't affect anything apart from default widows installs17:01
BluesKaj__Myst__, there's nothing special about arch except the hype17:01
donofrioanyone here use JoinNow/securew2 python script returns this - http://apaste.info/vbZ - sysinfo @ http://apaste.info/upload/mh0.jpg any thoughts?17:02
__Myst__DJones: So basically you should reformat a lenovo laptop ASAP?17:02
__Myst__BluesKaj: I like how hands on it seems, it feel slike it would be a learning exrpeince17:02
MonkeyDustdonofrio  try #python, or ##python17:02
DJones__Myst__: No idea, I reinstalled my laptop anyway cefore instaling Ububntu17:02
__Myst__donofrio: Try ##learnpython17:03
__Myst__donofrio: I'm pretty active in there17:03
lxleuserhello any way of reaching preferences menu with command line?17:03
lxleuseri have lxle17:03
BluesKaj__Myst__, all I learned was that cli  text installs are over rated , the end result was anti-climactic , it's a pretty ordinary linux OS  IMO17:03
__Myst__BluesKaj: I also want the cutting edge, I am amazed by how old some of the packages on Ubuntu 14.04 are17:04
BluesKaj__Myst__, that's what LTS means  stable and it works ..I liked 14,04 a lot17:05
lxleusertried to install greek and most of menu features are missing17:05
__Myst__BluesKaj: that's why I'm switching away from LTS17:06
Jakey3im getting massive black flickering on my ubuntu 16.04 anyway to fix this17:06
MonkeyDustlxleuser  lxle is not suported here, iirc17:06
__Myst__BluesKaj: also “cutting edge” is latest stable afaik17:06
BluesKaj__Myst__, what makes you think cutting edge is used in arch ?17:07
__Myst__BluesKaj: isn't it?17:08
__Myst__MonkeyDust: What about Lubuntu then?17:09
MonkeyDust__Myst__  lubuntu is supported17:09
__Myst__MonkeyDust: Yes, but afaik Lubuntu uses lxle?17:09
MonkeyDust!lxle17:09
ubottuUbuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)17:09
Picilubuntu uses lxde17:10
ejbIs there a way to install ubuntu (on bare metal) from an existing virtual machine image (virtualbox)?17:13
ejbOr some how image / capture the configuration and use it in a new install17:13
akiklubuntu uses lxde17:13
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MonkeyDustejb  is this useful ... post looks somewhat old, tho ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/32499/migrate-from-a-virtual-machine-vm-to-a-physical-system17:17
zachsalzi'm having trouble preseeding my install - i've created a user in the cfg file with an encrypted password, but it always asks me to enter a password17:19
zachsalzany ideas?17:19
wcsQuick question: what funcionality is netfilter-persistent suppose to provide? It just looks like it's a framework that doesn't actually do anything out of the box17:25
MonkeyDustwcs  how is that ubuntu related?17:26
naccwcs: that pacakge? it seems to just add the ability for netfilter configuration to be loaded at boot-time17:26
naccwcs: hence "persistence"17:27
ejbMonkeyDust: that looks like the ticket. Thanks17:27
wcsit looks like it suggest iptables-persistent17:29
wcsbut for some reason aptitude didn't install the suggested17:29
ioria!info iptables-persistent17:29
ubottuiptables-persistent (source: iptables-persistent): boot-time loader for netfilter rules, iptables plugin. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.4 (xenial), package size 6 kB, installed size 42 kB17:29
wcsif you install netfilter-persistent without iptables-persistent the netfilter-persistent doesn't actually do anything...17:30
wcsand it doesn't report that no plugins are run.17:30
ioria!info netfilter-persistent17:31
ubottunetfilter-persistent (source: iptables-persistent): boot-time loader for netfilter configuration. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.4 (xenial), package size 6 kB, installed size 36 kB17:31
wcsIn fact it actually reports to stdout "saving netfilter rules"17:31
wcseven though it didn't run anyplugins17:31
ioriawcs are you on trusty  ?17:34
curlyearsgratings and salivations17:34
MonkeyDustwcs  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue17:34
wcsit's 16.0417:35
ioriawcs http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/iptables-persistent   netfilter it's a dep of  iptables-pers17:39
wcscorrect, but netfilter-persistent just suggest iptables-persistent, but when run without it. It reports the action was sucessful even though no action was taken17:40
ioriaoh, i see17:40
MonkeyDustwcs  maybe you can report that as a !bug17:40
wcsMonkeyDust, that's what I was thinking.17:41
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elaveehey guys where are my installed binaries?17:45
elaveei can't find them anywhere17:45
pvsharovelavee: which17:45
elaveeopt bianries17:45
MonkeyDustelavee  basically in /usr/bin and /usr/sbin/17:46
elaveeso is there any order to this?17:47
elaveeor do 3rd party apps just place themselves wherever they want?17:47
MonkeyDustelavee  start from the beginning, what are you doing and what goes wrong, what brings you here17:47
loahello! what i need to run after updating /etc/default/grub ? update-grub or update-grub2 ?17:47
elaveei just want to know, where are my /opt/ binaries?17:48
elaveeapplications installed from 3rd parties17:48
elaveeeither ubuntu store17:48
elaveeor from various places on the internet17:48
elaveethey aren't in /usr/bin17:48
geniilook in /opt/bin17:48
MonkeyDustelavee  and not supported here, if it's not in the ubuntu repos17:48
akikelavee: there are no /opt binaries unless you place them there17:48
elaveeokay so17:49
elavee/opt/ is empty17:49
elaveethere is no /usr/opt17:50
akikelavee: you're not making much sense17:50
elavee/usr/sbin & /usr/bin also empty17:50
curlyearsno, but there is a /usr/bin17:50
elaveeso im just wondering here what is the default location for ubuntu binaries??17:50
elaveeor is it that apps just go wherever they want?17:50
elaveelike is there any organization to this? or does it just vary?17:51
akikelavee: if your /usr/bin and /usr/sbin are empty, your installation is broken17:51
curlyearselavee:  it depends on what portion of ubuntu the app supports/is based on.17:51
elaveeakik they don't have binaries in them, they aren't empty17:51
MonkeyDustelavee  what's the output of    which firefox17:51
akiki have to say i'm baffled17:52
elaveethis doesn't make any sense to me17:52
MonkeyDustelavee  to us it doesnt either17:52
elavee/usr/bin/ looks like a dump17:53
elaveenothing is organized17:53
elaveeit has dev dependencies i've isntalled via apt-get17:53
elaveeand then lots of symlinks17:54
genii!fhs | elavee Ubuntu adheres to this standard17:54
ubottuelavee Ubuntu adheres to this standard: An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview  see also: man hier17:54
elaveethanks ubottu i need to read this17:54
MonkeyDustelavee  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview17:54
akikelavee: /usr/bin and /usr/sbin are the directories that hold most of the binaries17:54
naccelavee: to be clear, pvsharov was saying (imo) to use `which` to find where a binary is17:56
naccelavee: as was MonkeyDust17:56
elaveenacc yah i understand17:56
elaveeim just going to read what ubottu linked me so i can learn more about how ubuntu does this17:56
elaveebecause coming from freebsd17:57
MonkeyDust!manual | elavee17:57
ubottuelavee: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/17:57
elaveethis is a wreck guys17:57
akikelavee: please stop trolling17:57
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whlaihey all. I have a situation with 16.04 where it doesn't detect the second display (though greeter does) any ideas? Using Intel integrated graphics)18:04
elaveeakik don't be sensitive18:05
elaveei'm not trolling18:05
elavee/usr/bin is a dump18:05
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elaveethere should be some semblance of organization18:05
elaveebut there's just not18:05
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elaveei guess if you're using something like the ubuntu store to remove an isntalled packaged18:06
elaveeis it going to just clean itself?18:06
yeatselavee: what's your concern about that?18:06
elaveei can see that eventually i bet cleaning up the trash left behind from various apps is probably a huge pita18:06
elaveeunless you guys have some sort of method you use18:07
elaveeyeats it's not maintainable18:07
elaveeit's really frustrating18:07
elaveeand it clutters up userspace18:07
yeatselavee: do you have a support question, or are you just complaining?18:07
akikelavee: it's called package management which takes care of them18:07
akikelavee: can you pastebin of freebsd's /usr/bin so we can compare?18:08
elaveeyeats my question was where does ubuntu install apps, but now im wondering how the heck do you guys manage this going forward?18:10
MonkeyDust!apt | elavee18:10
ubottuelavee: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)18:10
elaveein my epxerience package managers always leave pieces behind, it just happens18:10
BluesKajwhat's the ubuntu app for connecting via wfi to android phones?18:10
MonkeyDustelavee  yes, you can clean that with apt clean, apt autoremove and others18:10
cscfelavee, APT leaves config files behind by default, unless you say "purge" so as to prevent destroying user data.  Other than that, removing a package removes it.18:11
cscfBluesKaj, you mean connecting to a phone's hotspot?18:11
BluesKajcscf, no just to trasnsfer files back and forth liker kdeconnect does18:12
BluesKajcscf, I'm just curious is all18:12
cscfBluesKaj, I'm not aware of an Ubuntu-specific alternative to kde-connect18:13
daxjust use kdeconnect?18:13
elaveeokay thanks guys18:13
BluesKajdax, I do, but some ubuntu purists might not want some kde libs on their systems :-)18:15
daxsome ubuntu purists should feel free to write their own NIH implementation, then18:15
BluesKajdax, i run Kubuntu so i really don't care , like I said , I'm just curious18:16
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whlai16.04 xrandr: Can't open display18:38
whlaianyone?18:38
nissinHELLO18:38
nissinNISSIN my name18:38
pvsharovnissin: japan?18:39
nissinNO18:39
nissinNIHON18:39
MonkeyDustnissin  caps18:39
pvsharovNipon?18:39
akikwhlai: open a new terminal. i think you've changed from your normal user account to some other account18:39
nissinmonkeydust anal18:39
MonkeyDustnissin  this is the ubuntu support channel, sure you want to be here?18:40
whlaiakik: same18:40
whlaias root or as user18:40
whlaiCan't open display18:40
akikwhlai: you've changed the display configuration somehow, undo it and then try again18:40
whlaiThis is a fresh install18:40
whlaiHow can I "undo" the configuration?18:41
nissin_I have an issue where Bluetooth always turns on when restarting computer18:41
whlai16.04 doesn't have a xorg.conf in ?etc/X1118:41
nissin_How can I save myself from this inconvenient burden?18:41
akikwhlai: what do you get from "echo $DISPLAY" ?18:41
whlainothing18:41
whlaiblank18:41
nissin_bluetooth keeps turning on how can i disable this18:42
nissin_!18:42
akikwhlai: try "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -q"18:42
Jordan_Uwhlai: Can you open any GUI apps from the terminal?18:42
whlaiNo protocol specified18:42
whlaiCan't open display :018:42
akikwhlai: in the default installation xrandr would work without those errors18:43
whlaiJordan_U:  Error: GDK_BACKEND does not match available displays18:43
whlaiakik, how do I go to default config?18:43
akikwhlai: that's what i would ask you :) did you change the configuration?18:44
whlainot that I know of18:44
whlaiMade an image, cloned the image, shipped it off18:44
Ntemishi18:44
Jordan_Uwhlai: Do you have this problem when logging in with the guest account?18:44
whlaiuser can't detect second monitor18:44
Ntemisi need some help with compliling on xenial18:44
whlaiJordan, I don't know didn't try18:44
Jordan_Uwhlai: How did you "clone the image"?18:45
whlaiwith a cloning dock18:45
nissin_can anyone help me with this burden18:45
whlaibasically, dd18:45
nissin_i cannot manage to keep bluetooth CLOSED18:45
Ntemisany help with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/17069641/18:45
Jordan_Uwhlai: How did you create the image?18:45
akikwhlai: shipped what, where? i don't get it18:45
whlaiakik, i don't have the machine. it's a user. I'm sshing into his machine18:46
akikohh... the details emerge18:46
whlai:)18:46
Jordan_Uwhlai: Then of course you cant do anything GUI related.18:46
whlailol18:46
whlaibut I know what's happeneing on the other end18:46
akikwhlai: you can you ssh -X remote_host to activate the x11 tunneling18:47
whlairight18:47
whlaiok18:47
whlaione sec18:47
ephemeralqqqq18:47
Jordan_Uwhlai: That will not help you usefully run xrandr.18:47
akikwhlai: but it will just enable you to start apps on the remote_host and display them on your own display18:47
whlailol18:47
whlaiok18:47
whlaiI needed the X flag18:47
whlaixrandr returns two monitors18:47
whlaiHDMI1 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 531mm x 299mm18:48
whlaiVGA1 connected 1920x1080+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 531mm x 299mm18:48
whlaiVIRTUAL1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)18:48
nissin_can anyone read this18:48
nissin_am i typting to myself18:48
nissin_or am i not18:48
Jordan_Unissin_: Yes we can see you fine.18:48
whlaiakik, zrandr returns info now where it did not before without -X18:49
whlaixrandr*18:49
nissin_Jordan_U how do i switch off BLUETOOTH18:49
xentity1xHi I'm having trouble set the owner of a folder to postgres. Can anyone help?18:49
akikwhlai: xrandr is talking to your own display setup18:49
whlaiohhhh18:49
whlaii see18:49
xentity1xi've tried chown -R postgres:postgres /database/postgresqldata but it still says permission denied18:49
Jordan_Unissin_: I don't know. If I did I would have answered your query the first time.18:49
whlaiok18:50
whlaisooo... what do I do now?18:50
nissin_must be a bug then18:50
jake__Hi - I am trying to install a Netgear A6200 wi-fi card Windows 10 driver on Ubuntu 14.04 desktop.  The .inf seems to have installed with ndiswrapper and ndisgtk shows the hardware as "present" but ifconfig only shows wlan0, the other built-in wifi card.  Can someone help me attach the A6200 driver to Ubuntu?18:51
whlaiwhy does xrandr return "can't open display?"18:51
whlaiakik, do you know how I can fix?18:51
akikwhlai: what do you want to accomplish?18:51
Jordan_Uwhlai: Install screen on their system then have *them* open a gnome-terminal window and run "screen". Then you run "screen -x" or possibly "screen -xd" (the latter of which will diaconnect their terminal from screen).18:51
MonkeyDustnissin_  sudo sysv-rc-conf18:51
Gallomimiayou can't use windows drivers for linux18:51
whlaiI want two monitors akik18:51
whlaiJordan_U, install "screen"?18:52
jake__Gallomania: Check out ndiswrapper18:52
Jordan_Ujake__: Forget the ndiswrapper ever existed.18:52
nissin_MonkeyDust service not Found18:52
nissin_command **18:52
MonkeyDustnissin_  install it, first18:52
Jordan_Ujake__: Trust me. You don't want it.18:53
nissin_monkey dust18:53
nissin_I have a menu here in front of me18:53
jake__Jordan_U: Okay, how else can I install the wi-fi adapter with only windows drivers?18:53
nissin_what do i do now...18:53
whlaiJordan_U: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/2' - please check.18:53
MonkeyDustnissin_  disbale the service you don't want18:53
whlaithat's what "screen" returns18:53
nissin_MonkeyDust , this is all well but what if i want to use bluetooth one day?18:54
MonkeyDustnissin_  turn it back on18:54
nissin_using sudo sysv-rc-conf ?18:54
nissin_or can i do in through the GUI18:54
MonkeyDustnissin_  yes18:54
nissin_cant i use the GUI ?18:54
Jordan_Ujake__: I usually have to repeat this many times to users who have found ndiswrapper, this is the last time I will for you today. If there are no native drivers then you have to buy a new card. Do not use ndiswrapper; it will only end in fruatration and a further broken system.18:55
pascalhi, here is my screenshot of gnome http://imgur.com/tghulr618:55
nissin_MonkeyDust thank you but i hope this wont come back to bite me18:56
Jordan_Ujake__: That said, there may in fact be native drivers available for your card.18:56
akikwhlai: so you made a dd image of your installation and copied it to anohter disk, then sent the new disk somewhere to be installed into another machine?18:56
whlaiakik, yes18:57
jake__Jordan_U: Okay, I am considering getting a new card -- it wouldn't be super expensive -- but I just wanted to see if there's a way to use the card that I have.  Native drivers would be nice, so I wouldn't have to use ndiswrapper.18:57
akikwhlai: is the another machine same model than yours?18:57
whlaiJordan_U: screen, as user, returned "Screen version 4.03.01 (GNU) 28-Jun-15"18:57
whlaiakik, no18:57
Jordan_U!screen | whlai18:58
ubottuwhlai: screen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also useful over SSH. The 'byobu' package provides very useful additional utilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen18:58
whlaiHordan_U: ?18:58
Jordan_Uwhlai: Great, then it worked. Do exactly as I specified or read more about what screen is.18:58
whlaiJordan, which user should I be?18:59
whlaiany ssh user?18:59
whlaibecause I currently get: There is no screen to be attached.19:00
Jordan_Uwhlai: The same user as they are graphically logged in as.19:00
whlaibut when I just run "screen" as ssh user, I get the right return19:00
whlaidoesn't work when I su to that username (user logged in)19:01
jake2Jordan_U: Hi this is jake/jake2. Can you provide any pointers to finding a native driver for the Netgear A6200 wi-fi adapter?19:01
whlaialso, that person is an ldap user19:01
siddharth#python19:02
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whlaiJordan_U: when I am ssh as admin (not the user) with -X, I can get a return (same as them) when executing "screen"19:03
whlaiwhensu as them and running again, I get /var/run/screen/S-mwilloughby/4982.pts-19.16: No such file or directory19:03
whlaisu*19:03
Jordan_Uwhlai: Do not run "screen" yourself.19:03
snfgfHow do I install a .deb?19:03
snfgfO.O19:04
whlaiwhat should I do, then?19:04
Jordan_Uwhlai: I need to go. If you had followed my exact instructions you would be sharing a shell with them, and be able to run xrandr usefully (affecting their Xorg).19:05
whlaiok19:05
whlaithanks19:05
Jordan_Uwhlai: So now I recommend researching what screen is and how to use it, and make sure that they initiate the screen session from a gnome-terminal window. If you initiate it then you won't be able to usefully run xrandr.19:06
cstcyr__I'm trying to disable ntpupdate on linux mint?19:09
cstcyr__I've tried adding exit 0 to the rc file19:09
cstcyr__I've tried adding a host for ntp.ubuntu.com to localhost19:09
cstcyr__time is still updating every minute or so19:09
mcphailcstcyr__: this is #ubuntu, not mint support19:10
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softgoochohh crap19:11
softgoochhiiiii19:11
PrometheianIs there a way for me to run a command in shell as its own process? I want to run 'npm start' in a certain directory and not have it lock down my shell.19:12
ioria&19:13
Prometheian"nohup npm start &" ?19:13
ioriatry without nohup19:13
PrometheianOh, awesome!19:14
akiknohup is used to tell the process not to quit. it's useful sometimes19:15
PrometheianWorks, thanks a bunch! :)19:18
ioriayA'rWcme19:19
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whlaiakik, I used screen to attach the monitor that was disconnected19:20
whlaiwhat do I do now?19:20
whlaixrandr sees one monitor19:20
akikwhlai: are you now connected to the other person's screen session? if you run xrandr -q do you get the display information "from the other side" ?19:21
whlaiyes, I do19:21
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akikwhlai: can you pastebin xrandr -q ?19:23
whlaiskik, give me a minute please19:23
whlaiakik*19:24
akikwhlai: also /var/log/Xorg.0.log19:24
whlaiakik: http://pastebin.com/Y3Tvea0619:28
n1md4Hi.  I have ubuntu 16.04 running a gtx980 and nvidia-361 driver. There are 2 external monitors connected, and the laptop screen; so 3 displays in total.  I have had all 3 working, but during a recent upgrade to nvidia-364 things broke, and after rolling back, I can only get output on the 2 external monitors - even if I boot without them connected!19:30
n1md4http://paste.ubuntu.com/17070833/19:30
n1md4http://paste.ubuntu.com/17070802/19:30
whlaiakik: http://pastebin.com/CjXxmGnR19:31
OerHeksn1md4, most laptops have a FN key, internal/internal + external/external only, .. try to toggle that key19:31
OerHeksand wait 5 seconds while switching19:32
n1md4OerHeks: That was a nice try!  Thought you got it then, but it's not making a difference.19:33
OerHeksn1md4, oke, then it is a serious bug, thanks for testing19:34
Ben64n1md4: try hitting "detect displays" in nvidia-settings after doing that19:34
n1md4I say no difference, when I toggle it it locks the screen - needing a password to unlock.19:34
CoolGuy__How do you upload images through irssi client chat?19:34
whlaiakik: http://pastebin.com/CjXxmGnR  http://pastebin.com/Y3Tvea0619:34
Ben64CoolGuy__: upload them to imgur.com or similar, then post the link19:35
akikwhlai: xrandr only shows one display as connected19:35
whlaiyes19:35
whlaiI know19:35
akikwhlai: xorg is nowadays quite automatic19:35
n1md4Ben64: meh, no difference :-\19:35
Ben64:(19:36
akikwhlai: it should show a second display if it's really connected. is it connected with dvi or hdmi?19:36
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n1md4It's not a bug either, it's a config error, as I've had it working in the driver I'm currently running.19:36
whlaiakik: this is screen - http://pastebin.com/QP2YK7mT19:36
ioriaCoolGuy__, from command line you can try this script http://paste.ubuntu.com/17070953/   takes the img path as argument19:37
akikwhlai: for some reason there are two existing screen sessions. you need to specify which you want to connect to19:38
whlaiok. how?19:38
CoolGuy__Ok, thanks.19:38
CoolGuy__http://imgur.com/iQkFAhR19:38
netametahow do i change sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT to also allow output for that addreess19:38
akikwhlai: "screen -x 5188.pts-21.16" or "screen -x 4947.pts-18.16"19:38
whlaiwait, there should only be one??19:39
whlaii attached the second via screen19:39
whlaibecause it was not attached19:39
akikwhlai: is there any local support person on the other site?19:39
ioriaCoolGuy__, it's ok19:39
akikwhlai: well your output shows two separated screen sessions19:39
whlaino, just auser I can walk through19:40
whlaiwhich output?19:40
whlaifrom screen?19:40
norbouHi guys19:42
norboucan you help me with tar please?19:42
geoff_norbou: don't ask to ask just ask =D19:43
curlyearsjust state your problem and ask your question, norbou19:43
akikwhlai: you can attach to the sessions with "screen -r 5188.pts-21.16" or "screen -r 4947.pts-18.16"19:43
akikwhlai: really not sure why there are two. they were started 10 minutes from each other19:44
Natillashi19:45
akikwhlai: to get into the same session started by your remote user, use "screen -x session"19:45
norboui have large tar backup on usb drive. I made a ext4 partition for extraction, but it is too small, so i need to extract first half and second half from /media/sdd1/homes.tar to sda1. Filenames contains non ascii chars.19:46
Natillasrename the partition to ntfs19:46
reisio...19:47
reisionorbou: what now?19:47
geoff_norbou: hrm i am not sure if you can specifically get "half" of it.. i think you will need to create a list of files you want manually19:48
geoff_it might be easy depending on what the directory structure looks like19:48
bpromptnorbou:     if you know the ext4 partition is too small, why didn't you make it big enoug to hold the .tar contents in the first place?19:48
n1md4Upgraded to nvidia-367 and still no laptop display in X19:48
reision1md4: how 'bout nouveau?19:48
norboui dont have larger linux drive19:49
n1md4reisio: tried that, it wouldn't boot lightdm19:49
geoff_norbou: you can do things like `tar -xf homes.tar some/files/*`  then later `tar -xf homes.tar some/other/files/*`19:49
MonkeyDustnorbou  so the problem is not tar, but space for your files?19:49
norbouWhen i untar to smb or ntfs, filenames are broken19:49
norboubad charset19:49
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reision1md4: sure it would19:50
norboua have large space on ntsf or smb network19:50
bpromptnorbou:     that can happen, yes, characters supported for a filesystem, may not be supported by another, yes, just because ext4 can use say utf-16 characters, doesn't mean fat32 or ntfs or ExtFS would19:50
reisionorbou: it's more likely that your mount is configured improperly, and the chars are actually fine19:51
reisioanyway19:51
reisiowhat's in this tar that you need?19:51
norboui think it is good plan to extract some subfolders to ext4 and move it on ntfs and then do the rest. bu how please?19:52
reisionone of that makes sense :p19:53
norboui tryed ARK and xarchiver, it doesnt extract nothing...19:53
reisiowhat's in the tar that you need right now?19:53
bpromptnorbou:     is a good plan, if you don't have any filenames character issues, besides, keep in mind that ntfs as well as fat32, won't keep permissions, so.... if you don't have any filenaming issues and permissions concern, that may work, yes19:53
bpromptnorbou:    if you do have those concerns though, then that doesn't work19:54
bpromptnorbou:    looks good on paper though19:54
norboubpromt> great, i dont need to keep permissions19:55
norboui have to try it from command line19:55
bpromptnorbou:     well, by your own sayings, you said you do have filename issues, so, your plan works if you're untarring to a ext3 or ext4 partition19:55
bpromptnorbou:    you could, just run an app like say   Xarchiver and pick and choose which files you want untarred to where19:56
Fabouhi everyone19:57
bpromptallo19:57
Faboucould anyone help me with nas configuring?19:57
norbouxarchiver freezes wit so large tar19:57
geoff_norbou: i told you.. its quite easy.. you do `tar xf <thetarfile> path/to/internal/files/*`19:58
norboui have to recover data for 140 users...19:58
bpromptnorbou:    doesn't nautilus open .tar files like folders anyway?19:59
geoff_norbou: look here: http://superuser.com/questions/504798/extract-specific-files-in-a-tar-archive-using-a-wildcard20:00
asdf-/dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, /dev/sda5 ... in gparted, sda5 is under sda2 and it is unreadable... how can i reset the partition?20:01
asdf-sda5 has all of the data20:01
MonkeyDustasdf-  can you not mount sda5 ? what happens when you try20:02
norboutar -xf /media/sdd1/homes.tar kancelar to /media/sda1/homes20:04
norboulike this?20:04
norbousorry i dont speak linux20:05
reisionorbou: what're you trying to do?20:06
OerHeks<norbou> xarchiver freezes wit so large tar .. it turns grey, but keeps on working, be patient.20:07
norboutar from what target?20:07
geoff_norbou: if you wanted to extract the folder kancelar from /media/sdd1/homes.tar to a folder called /target it would look like this:  `tar -C /target -xf /media/sdd1/homes.tar kancelar`20:08
geoff_norbou: if you do tar -tvf /media/sdd1/homes.tar you can see the contents of the tar file20:09
norbouok, i think ark is working, thank you OerHeks20:09
norbouthank you geoff_20:10
nname31hello, how can change usb volt output from terminal?20:13
OerHeksnname31, never heard someone wanted that20:14
* OerHeks is not even going to search for such command20:15
NabenRajSahurr220:16
NabenRajBangun20:16
LuckyTuxWhat's difference if I have one partition for all or if I have separate partitions for /home /var and /tmp ?20:16
NabenRajSholatlah Engkau Sebelum Kau KuSholatkan20:16
geoff_nname31: i don't think you can do that without loading in a different driver20:16
geoff_unless perhaps there are a couple presets?20:16
MonkeyDustLuckyTux  if you have a separate /home, you personal files stay untouching when you reinstall ubuntu20:17
MonkeyDustuntouched*20:17
HackerIIthe only thing you can do is shut it on and off20:17
reisioLuckyTux: for most people, including for you, the difference is that in the latter situation you've unnecessarily complicated things20:17
HackerIIits a fixed 5 volts20:18
Cablegunmasterssh question , I have a Pi and wanna know how to check the ssh connection from the outside :o20:18
reisioLuckyTux: it used to be, and still is to a certain extent, that you could use special, distinct filesystems for each section of the OS for performance gains20:18
reisioalmost nobody does this anymore20:18
LuckyTuxThanks for the help guys(:20:18
reisiobecause hardware and filesystems have come so far20:18
Cablegunmasterhow to check SSH from the outside :)?20:19
nname31ok very thx20:19
reisioCablegunmaster: hrmm?20:19
brelodCablegunmaster: do u mean outside of your router?20:20
brelodoutside of LAN?20:20
Cablegunmasteryep brelod20:22
MonkeyDustCablegunmaster  do you mean 'test ssh' ?20:22
Cablegunmasteroutside of lan wanna make it open so I can see it on Wan network20:22
brelodCablegunmaster: u have to forward a port in the router to the Pi20:22
Cablegunmasterdoes it matter which port?20:23
brelodno20:23
geoff_Cablegunmaster: brelod yes it does20:23
geoff_you have to forward the port that ssh is on.. probably 2220:23
OerHeksif you use the 'standard' port 22 ..20:24
brelodok yes, but you have to forward it to 22 or what port u r usin on Pi20:24
Cablegunmasterso how can I trace the whole route after the port forwarding :)?20:25
brelodCablegunmaster: you can set ddns for it20:26
norbouis possible to take on of linux raid1 disk and mount it on another system to access data on it?20:26
brelodfor example noip.com20:26
Cablegunmasterddns?20:27
geoff_norbou: yes but make sure you mount it read only!20:27
breloddynamic dns - you setup  domain name for the router because the ip of the router is always changed20:28
norbounice! how can i mount it20:29
brelod(of course if u r using dynamic ip served by your ISP)20:29
moppyHi. Is it normal to have ecrypt-fs running on a Trusty server without disk encryption? I'm investigating poor disk performance.20:29
lapionHi, what's the current status of ubuntu when using nividia with the nouveau driver ?20:29
makarahi. Why do I need to unplug/plug Samsung LED display from laptop (Lenovo Ubuntu 16.04) in order for display to be detected? Any programmatic method?20:30
brelodCablegunmaster: then u can for example: ssh myrouter.ddns.net20:30
theseb/are pbuilder and backportpackage to install NEWER package than is20:30
theseb         normally allowed for a distro?  [15:29]20:30
theseb*** greycat (~wooledg@remote.wooledge.org) has quit: Quit: This time the20:30
theseb    bullet cold rocked ya / A yellow ribbon instead of a swastika20:30
theseb*** asc232 (~Keith@179.38.248.217) has quit: Remote host closed the connection20:30
theseb<theseb> i built libcrypto++ that way....if i wanted to undo the damage20:30
lapionBecause I get dual screen but ubuntu incists that it's running unaccelarated.20:30
MonkeyDust!nouveau | lapion start here20:30
ubottulapion start here: nouveau is an open-source nvidia driver included by default since Ubuntu 10.04. Currently, 3D rendering is only partially supported. More information can be found at http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ | See !nvidia for the closed-source Nvidia driver.20:30
lapion!nvidia20:31
ubottuFor AMD/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto20:31
thesebtest20:31
thesebsorry....tried to ask if backportpackage installs newer packages than allowed and if can backout20:31
thesebi.e. purge and go back to official packages20:31
thesebyes?20:31
moppyAccording to top, I have `ecryptfs-kthrea` running and I don't understand why. There is no disk encryption in use on this server. Is it safe to uninstall?20:33
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kgeeI've moved to xenial LTS, and need a package that is not included. (it is "proposed" but not available). Is it wise to add the older trusty repository to get the older version I used to depend on?20:34
reisiomoppy: should be, but it might be re-installed as a dep the same way it already was20:34
MonkeyDustkgee  no, that's not wise ... what package?20:35
kgeeMonkeyDust: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/libjitsi-jni20:35
lapionprevious versions on ubuntu would run nouveau without a hitch..20:38
moppyreisio: Yea you're right. It appears to be required for libpam-mount, and I can't remove libpam-mount.20:39
reisioI'm sure you can un-require it, it's just more work20:40
reisioit's not as simple as merely removing it and considering it gone forever20:40
moppyreisio: I just don't understand why it's *running* though. Ah well.20:40
MonkeyDustkgee  yes, it's removed, but there's this ... https://jitsi.org/Main/Download#stableline20:41
reisiomoppy: because using ecryptfs in various ways is supported by the installer20:41
moppyreisio: Still don't see why it needs to be _running_ if not used. I guess I need to first find out if it's the thing that's causing the poor disk performance, then find out why it's actually _running_ on already installed systems  that arent using encryption20:43
kgeeThanks, MonkeyDust. I didnt catch that. I'll ahve a look20:43
superguest_Where can I view network shares in 16.04?20:44
superguest_smb shares20:45
MonkeyDustsuperguest_  in   /run/user/1000/gvfs/20:45
moppysuperguest_: shares you are connected to, or shares you are hosting?20:46
superguest_moppy shares I am connected to.20:47
reisiomoppy: lots of things are preconfigured but not used20:47
superguest_MonkeyDust in a gui please20:47
reisioyour kernel is enormous20:47
reisioit's covering the majority of bases20:47
reisioagain, you can get rid of it if you want, it's just gonna be work20:47
MonkeyDustsuperguest_  it's the same, open a file manager and navigate to   /run/user/1000/gvfs/20:47
superguest_Monkey _Dust it's an empy folder for me.20:48
Cablegunmasterddns goes to far brelod20:49
Cablegunmasterfirst just want to try a ‬IP login system :p20:49
MonkeyDustsuperguest_  install and use 'gigolo', it's handy to connect to shares20:50
MonkeyDustsuperguest_  then you can see them in your file manager20:50
jake__wow old school chat room20:51
MonkeyDustjake__  i even remember vistiong actual pubs20:51
jake__the touch the feel of cotton, the fabric of our lives20:51
jake__a/s/l20:51
rleighHi folks.  I've been attempting to convert a 16.04 install to boot with ZFS using https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-16.04-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem for reference, as well as similar pages.20:52
rleighI've got a pool and efi boot partition set up.  But I can't for the life of me get GRUB to boot the system.20:52
jake__this reminds me of aol20:52
MonkeyDustjake__  this is the ubuntu support channel, no social chat20:52
rleighQuestion: Is it technically possible to boot to a ZFS root with UEFI (with /boot on the pool)?20:52
rleighThe advice on this point seems mixed.  Ideally I'd like it so I can have a coherent snapshot of the whole system state, which I can send off for backup/archival.20:53
moppysuperguest_: Look at /proc/mounts. It should be everything.20:54
AppleBananaHi folks.20:56
AppleBananaI'm having issues using my trackpad, I'm using the newest version of Lubuntu, fresh install.20:56
superguest_moppy okay tahnks20:57
AppleBananaThe trackpad doesn't work, and an external mouse does.20:57
moppyAppleBanana: I've seen that happen a lot on chromebooks due to not having a trackpad driver loaded. Are you on chrome?20:58
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AppleBananaNo. It's an Acer.20:58
AppleBananaAspire ES1-c88m20:59
moppyhave you done the usual lspci, lshw to check if the hardware is detected and a driver is loaded? and xinput?21:00
AppleBananaThe usual? Uh, I'm not familiar with how to do that.21:01
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AppleBananaWindows user. x321:01
moppyAppleBanana: Ah. xinput in a terminal will tell you if it's picked up. lspci will show you if the driver is detected. lshw will tell you how the hardware is seen. I'm too high at the moment to write a procedure but Im sure others here can :)21:02
moppyi'll brb later21:03
AppleBananamoppy: What poison? ;321:03
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AppleBananaBack. So problem is that trackpad is not functioning, how do I make it work? I'm kind of fresh off the Windows boat, so help would be appreciated.21:07
borisetoMight get bashed for this question, but does anyone know if there is a twitter app that uses the messaging indicator for notifications?21:08
whlaiakik, still there?21:10
whlaisorry, I had meeting w boss21:10
whlaihaven't fixed shite yet21:10
whlaiI already have a terminal session "as the user" not as an su21:11
BreetaiHow can I make the live CD reboot without the "Press Enter" thing at the end?21:14
NyticianHi I'm trying to get wine running with a fully offline version of Ubuntu I've installed all the required dependencies and wine but there's no command or mouse drop down option what have I missed?21:17
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xanguaboriseto: no indicators, but I believe corebird can show unread messages count in the launcher icon21:19
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xangua!appdb | Nytician21:20
ubottuNytician: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help21:20
marklyfordis this the best channel to ask about getting an app developed and getting advice for the best of doing it ?21:21
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costisI dont think so marklyford21:21
marklyfordok thanks any suggestions as to best channel to get into for that ?21:22
marklyfordIve tried asking in the #conky channel but not getting much back21:22
costisAre you developing an app?21:22
marklyfordim not but I want one developing for my own use primarily21:23
costismarklyford: Did you choose a programming language?21:23
marklyfordno :) all I know it what I need :) I started using ubunutu only last week and love it and want to use it as my main OS21:24
marklyfordLike i say i thought about rying to get a conky widget or theme developed but not had much luck in that channel getting any advice or finding someone to do it21:24
MonkeyDust!manual | marklyford21:24
ubottumarklyford: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/21:24
marklyfordcan i post what I need ? (its pretty simple)21:25
AppleBananaHi, I would like some help with my Trackpad. It isn't working. My computer is Acer ES1-C88M. I am running the newest version of Lubuntu.21:25
AppleBananaAn external mouse is working but not the trackpad.21:25
marklyfordthanks @ubottu but Im already familiar with things now but Im looking at getting this app developed for my own use21:25
costismarklyford: You have to choose a language first dude!21:26
marklyfordIf I post what I need here can you advise me what would be best language to do it in ?21:26
k1l_marklyford: better start in #programming21:27
marklyfordok thanks will do21:27
costisyep, try with #programming21:27
marklyfordthanks everyone21:27
ubuntu595is 16.04 usable for now or still buggy?21:28
k1l_ubuntu595: its usable21:28
AppleBananaCan anyone assist me with my problem?21:28
AppleBanana:/21:28
MonkeyDustubuntu595  i've been using it since before the official release21:29
SnackerrHey, if i enable "Automatic security AND regular updates"  for an older person, who i'm installing linux for--- is that "dangerous"-- e.g. if they do a "dirty shutdown"-- does that mess up something?21:30
Snackerrhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates21:30
ubuntu595Is slow shutdown/reboot fixed? There was problem with networkmanager or something21:30
Snackerrbrb21:30
MonkeyDustubuntu595  define 'slow'21:30
costisAppleBanana, is it your first time running Lubuntu?21:30
k1l_ubuntu595: no slow shutdown for me. but that seems to be an issue that depends on the exact hardware.21:30
ubuntu595its was counting 2 min everytime~21:31
AppleBananaYes, I ran  updates though.21:31
ubuntu595before shut/restart21:31
Cablegunmasterpuuuh connection closed by remote host :(21:31
makarahi. Why do I need to unplug/plug Samsung LED display from laptop (Lenovo Ubuntu 16.04) in order for display to be detected? Any programmatic method?21:31
AppleBananacostis: I updated everything through the manager.21:31
Cablegunmastertomorrow gonna check again21:31
costisHmmm, I think it's a driver compatibility problem21:32
MonkeyDustubuntu595  in 16.04, you can use    systemd-analyze blame21:32
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monjampHello21:38
roquehola21:38
monjampI need help mounting my secondary HDD21:38
borisetoxangua, tnx, but yeah, I was going for indicators only (especially integrated in the messaging indicator)21:39
monjampUbuntu doesn't know how my secondary HDD was formatted so I can't mount it21:39
MonkeyDustmonjamp  what's the output of    lsblk -f ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/21:40
monjamphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/17073860/21:40
monjampsdb2 is what I want to mount21:41
MonkeyDustmonjamp  ok ... sudo blkid | grep sdb21:42
monjamphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/17073916/21:43
monjampI should mention that this drive was formatted in Windows 1021:44
lapionhmm the gpu-manager was the culprit21:45
lapionwell actually apple 2007 efi was the culprit that made gpu-manager the defacto culprit21:47
MonkeyDustmonjamp  sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sdb221:48
MonkeyDustmonjamp  -l simply means list21:48
monjamphttp://paste.ubuntu.com/17074043/21:49
MonkeyDustmonjamp  other timezone, i have to go ... start here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=170058021:51
monjamp:( Well thanks for pointing me in the right direction21:52
netametaAnyone knows how comes google server bloocking outbound request to SMPT server ?21:58
HackerIIgot the right port ?22:13
AppleBananaMy touchpad is not being detected for some reason on Lubuntu 16.04 Acer Aspire ES1-512 is what I am using.22:28
naccAppleBanana: pastebin `xinput` and `dmesg` output?22:32
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AppleBanananacc: PM'd both outputs22:37
HackerIIhere. not pm22:37
AppleBananaoh22:37
AppleBananaDidn't want to cluster up chat :(22:38
AppleBananaXinput: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17075237/ dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17075212/22:38
lordcirthPastebin already takes care of clutter22:38
Term1nalOkay, we're ~2 months into 16.04 and my network location credentials still won't friggin' save.22:39
Term1nalIs anything being done about this?22:39
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AppleBanananacc: Did you find anything?22:46
AppleBananaTried something, will see if it works. BRB22:49
naccTerm1nal: did you file a bug?22:50
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Guest26348Hi, guys, does anyone know how to put armor on in minetest? I can't see myself in inventory. I've been over to that server, but nobody seems to be home.22:52
Term1nalGuest26348: you probably want #minetest22:53
Term1naltype /join #minetest in your IRC client22:53
Guest26348ya I got it, and a bunch of mods. I have made armor, but can't see myself to put it on. Does anyone play the game?22:54
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Guest26348you mean type it right here in this same box I'm typing in? sorry dumb here22:56
kilbithhello, is there a reason why qt-sdk still relies on Qt4 packages ?22:56
Term1nalnacc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/541678 (not my report) but it says triaged, yet the behavior persists and I've updated as recently as an hour ago.22:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 541678 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "'Remember forever' option in network login not worked" [Low,Triaged]22:56
Term1nalohnvm, didn't look at the date.22:57
Term1nal2010 jesus22:57
Term1nalHere's the most recent one I can find on upstream: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75003422:59
ubottuGnome bug 750034 in general "Remember login forever keeps forgetting password" [Normal,New]22:59
AppleBananaBack, problem wasn't solved apparently23:02
AppleBanana:/23:03
naccAppleBanana: what did you try?23:04
AppleBananaI tried some stuff to get the Elantech Touchpad to go, something about something in grub, and reloading and loading a mouse driver23:04
AppleBananaNacc: I pasted you the outputs, what did you see from those?23:05
naccAppleBanana: i didn't see any evidence the kernel even sees the physical device (usually you'd see soemthing from i2c-hid, in my experience)23:09
AppleBananaSo what should I do? :o It was working in Windows23:09
naccAppleBanana: you could try `sudo lshw --class input` to see if it's detected at all23:10
naccAppleBanana: please pastebin tha toutput23:10
OerHeksonly fastboot in windows10 could prevent access to usb & touchpad like that23:10
AppleBananaIt's giving me help for the lshw command, maybe you didn't write the command rite?23:11
naccAppleBanana: sorry -class, not --class23:11
naccAppleBanana: quick google, it's a bios issue23:12
naccAppleBanana: chagne the Touchpad setting in bios from advanced to basic23:12
AppleBananaThere is no setting like that in the BIOS23:12
AppleBananaSomeone asked me to do that already23:13
naccthere was? dunno, i don't have it in front of me23:13
naccAppleBanana: nothing like it under 'main' in the bios menu?23:13
AppleBananaNo23:13
HackerIIlike OerHeks  said, maybe fast boot is enabled ??23:13
AppleBananaI will check to see.23:13
OerHeksand check for bios updates :-)23:13
AppleBananaHow would I update BIOS when the BIOS update is Windows from manufacturer? XD23:14
AppleBananaIt's in .exe23:14
AppleBananaanyways will check for/about fastboot and brb23:15
HackerIIi hate acer machines23:15
OerHeksheh, just read a warning about unsafe biosupdates for acer and such23:16
OerHeksnm23:16
HackerIID`oh!23:16
HackerIIi think that was asus23:16
HackerIIhttp23:16
OerHeksyes, also23:17
OerHeksanyway, ubuntu has a long project running for updates bios and firmware ..23:17
HackerIIcant wait23:17
HackerIIubuntu is gonna be the linux apple wished it was23:17
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate23:17
HackerIIit works on some23:18
OerHekssomehow uefi should make this easier, which makes my neckhair grow an inch23:19
HackerIIlol.23:19
goddardany google chrome snap?23:21
goddardsteam snap?23:21
OerHekssudo snap find : To list the available packages23:23
AppleBanananacc: There is no Fastboot option23:24
OerHekshttp://www.howtogeek.com/252047/how-to-install-and-manage-snap-packages-on-ubuntu-16.04-lts/23:24
AppleBanana0erHeks: There is no Fastboot option in the BIOS23:26
OerHeksno not in the bios, in windows23:26
AppleBananaI don't have Windows installed on this PC23:26
AppleBananaJust Ubuntu23:26
OerHekslot of bugreports about that elan touchpad & acer ES1-512 ... maybe it is an acer_wmi issue23:33
AppleBananawmi?23:34
AppleBananaI don't know what you mean.23:34
AppleBanana0erHeks: What should I do, I don't understand what you meant by an Acer_WMI issue23:41
OerHeksactually, it was just a mind thought, acer-wmi is more a wireless module ..23:46
AppleBananaWell, I guess I have to wait until the bug is fixed?23:46
QueenslayerLong time no ubuntu23:46
AppleBananaCause there is probably a bug report up there.23:47
OerHeksno, just file a bugreport, or confirm this one, so it gets attention https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-wily/+bug/156298023:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1562980 in linux-lts-wily (Ubuntu) "Acer Aspire ES1-512 - ELAN touchpad not working after installing Ubuntu to dual boot with Windows 10" [Undecided,New]23:47
AppleBananaHow do I file a bugreport?23:49
OerHeksor https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-wily/+bug/155936423:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1559364 in linux-lts-wily (Ubuntu) "Elantech Touchpad is not recognized after kernel upgrade" [Undecided,New]23:49
OerHeks!bug23:49
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.23:49
OerHeksbut this happens on Xenial 16.04 right?23:49
AppleBananayes23:50
AppleBananaXenial.23:50

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