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YankDownUnderAnyone have an idea why all of a sudden the KDE/Plasma desktop and widgets do not show icons...?08:11
SmurphyYankDownUnder: Right mouse button -> Desktop Settings, and re-configure it to: Folder View08:20
YankDownUnderSmurphy, Cheers, bro...but that's not quite fixing the widgets that no longer have icons...hmmm....08:42
YankDownUnderThis is getting to be a bit frustrating...really...and now I'm starting to wonder why, exactly, I decided to experiment with KDE/Plasma when gnome2 was such a pleasantly "stable" platform...very annoying...08:49
hateballYankDownUnder: Are you using release or backports?08:53
YankDownUnderhateball, Release - 16.04...(Kubuntu)...updated/blah blah blah...08:54
YankDownUnderhateball, The "target" machine - an HP laptop with a touch screen - is the girliefriend's machine - she's miffed at Win10 - and, ergo, migrated to KDE/Plasma...for simplicity...08:55
hateballYankDownUnder: I suggest you try using the backports, 5.5 is not very stable08:58
hateball!backports08:58
ubottuIf new updated packages are built for an application, they may go into Kubuntu Backports, which is one of the official Kubuntu PPAs. See https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs for more information.08:58
hateballscroll to bottom08:59
YankDownUnderhateball, Fair enough...I'll give that a go...see "wha happenz" as it were...not like there's anything to lose...09:00
hateballYankDownUnder: and 5.7 should bring some much needed fixes as well09:06
YankDownUnderhateball, Mmm...so, since we're at 5.5...what do you reckon the time frame is for that...?09:10
hateballYankDownUnder: https://community.kde.org/Schedules09:11
hateballYankDownUnder: july-ish + packaging09:11
YankDownUnderhateball, If only quantum mechanics were such that I could fast-forward a slight be into the future...however, I'll just have to deal with the back ports bit for the moment...the missus isn't really super fussed over the whole thing...as long as she's not enslaved to Win10...09:13
hateballYankDownUnder: well who knows, 5.6 might fix the issues you have now09:15
ussher_anyone know how to increase the line height in kate?  got some lines that I can only half see09:23
yossarianukhi - idiot networking question - how is 192.168.*.* defined using a class?09:28
yossarianuki.e is it 192.168.0.0/24 ?09:28
hateballyossarianuk: no that would be /16, also there is #networking I think :o09:30
Bundestrojanerhi09:31
Bundestrojanerkubuntu 16.04 lts is already available as iso. Is it not yet possible to upgrade from 14.04lts or is something wrong with my apt?09:31
hateball!ltsupgrade | Bundestrojaner09:32
ubottuBundestrojaner: Users of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st.09:32
Bundestrojanerhateball: ok, they wait for 16.04.109:34
Bundestrojanerthx!09:34
ussher_using sublime text editor instead.  kate can have a rest today.09:35
yossarianukhateball: thanks09:41
yossarianukand cheers for the link.09:41
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BluesKajHowdy folks11:22
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eleziumHi folks.. I understand that MySql is used for the indexing / searching tools in Kde... buf is there a way to limit the memory size?  MySQL takes about 1gig now13:10
hateballelezium: do you use akonadi? if not, run "akonadictl stop" in a terminal13:12
eleziumAnd what is akonadi? ;)13:14
hateballelezium: used for kde-pim, kmail etc13:14
eleziumHum. ok.. I do not use it yet, but was probably planning too.13:15
eleziumThe adress book in kMail is based on that I believe?13:15
hateballyes13:15
hateballelezium: or you can use kubuntu backports and see if it's a bug that goes away by upgrading13:16
eleziumOk.  hum.. it there a way to reduce the size?13:16
eleziumYeah, I'm using the Kubuntu stock version, but just saw that is a few little version behind for KDE .. might try to update..13:16
hateballelezium: well there is ~/.local/share/akonadi/mysql.conf you might set some memory options there13:17
hateballI am not really in the know about that tho13:17
eleziumok.  I'll have a look.  No biggie because I have some free mem... but KDE is already not the lightest thing on earth :/13:18
eleziumAny know (big) issue with the backport? (5.6.4)13:20
hateballI'm using it currently and it's certainly behaving nicer than stock 16.0413:21
eleziumCool.  I'll give that a try.  Thanks for your time hateball.13:22
hateballelezium: Good luck :)13:23
eleziumBha. I have backup if it all goes wrong.  no biggie.13:23
yossarianukelezium: I would highly recommend using 5.6.4 - fixes several bugs (network-manager) and seems slightly snappier13:38
eleziumJust upgraded. ;)13:38
yossarianukThey should have gone with 5.6.x by default - its due to the ubuntu release schedule they didn't13:38
eleziumAfter a reboot, the mysql process is now rougly 200megs.  Will check again after a few hours of usage.13:38
BluesKajwatch out for nvidia upgrqade bug13:39
BluesKajupgrade13:39
yossarianukBluesKaj: which bug?13:39
elezium^ ?13:39
yossarianukI'm using nvidia - 364.1913:39
yossarianukno issues13:39
eleziumI'm on 361.42.. I just upgrade and it seems to work.  but I haven't try out any games (or GPU intensive thingie)13:40
BluesKajhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/158900613:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1589006 in snapd (Ubuntu) "Failed unmounting Mount unit for nvidia support in snappy" [Critical,In progress]13:40
yossarianukhmm not seen that - i'm using the PPA for nvidia though13:41
BluesKaji"m on 340 and just treid to upgrade and received errors to do with a script and deb unable to run etc13:41
yossarianukalso i'm using 364 not 36713:41
eleziumDidn't run into issue here ..13:41
BluesKajyossarianuk, think it applies to all nvidia drivers13:41
yossarianukme neither - I switch from 361 -> 364 no issue..13:42
eleziumbut nice to know.. thanks BluesKaj13:42
BluesKajok, good , you got luck I guess13:42
eleziumFor once ;)13:42
BluesKajheh13:42
yossarianukand that bug isn't related  to using the newer plasma version13:42
yossarianukjust in case elezium: thought that is what you meant13:43
BluesKajwell i'm using 5.6.413:43
yossarianukare you using any snap packages ?13:45
yossarianukI don't believe I am...13:45
BluesKajthe devs tell me the snap tools are already in the archives13:49
acheron_ukyou get the buggy nvidia packages if (a) you have proposed enabled on Xenial and you upgraded the Nvidia drivers while the buggy package was available in proposed13:54
acheron_ukor (b) you have the graphics ppa enabled, and again did an upgrade while the buggy packages were there13:55
acheron_ukin (a) or (b) you might not actually hit the bug until you try to install the fixed versions, and the prerm scripts in the buggy ones execute13:56
rwbHi, anyone know of a reliable 4G LTE modem to use? I have had bad luck with Huawei E397B13:58
BluesKajacheron_uk, I mistakenly left the the ubuntu-graphics ppa enabled, hence the buggy upgrade13:59
acheron_ukditto. didn't hit the bug until the updates to "fix" it came out14:00
BluesKajso let's hope the devs fix the bug, because that workaround looks dangerous to me, stopping sddm drops mme to the VT prompt14:04
BluesKajno desktop unless I restart sddm14:04
yossarianukI do have one question I have about the ubuntu-graphics ppa .....14:07
yossarianukwhen enabled it always upgrades nvidia-settings to the latest verson - even though its different to the driver version....14:07
yossarianuki.e I am using driver : 364.19-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.614:08
yossarianukbut I have nvidia-seetings version : 367.18-0ubuntu0~gpu16.04.114:08
yossarianukisn't that potentially bad?14:08
acheron_uknot necessarily. AFAIK, the settings app stands alone and only exposes options that your card supports?14:10
BluesKajyossarianuk, which drib=ver is listed first in: sudo ubuntu-drivers list14:11
BluesKajdriver14:11
BluesKajthat'll be the one in use14:11
acheron_uki.e. it won't make your card try to do something your card nor the main driver supports14:11
yossarianukBluesKaj: I'm not with you ...14:12
yossarianukthe command showed -> nvidia-35814:12
acheron_ukmamarly: is that right ^^14:12
yossarianukbut I do not have that package installed14:12
yossarianukacheron_uk: ok - I had heard of people who had issues using the wrong nvidia-settings package (years ago)14:13
yossarianukif its backward compatible though thats fine14:14
BluesKajyossarianuk, if you do : sudo ubuntu-drivers devices, it will show the recommended driver , which you should be using14:14
yossarianukit shows -> driver   : nvidia-367 - third-party free recommended14:14
acheron_ukI *think* it's backward compatible, as I understand it anyway14:15
yossarianukhowever its not recommended to use 367 as that is a beta driver14:15
yossarianukI have the ubuntu-graphics ppa enabled14:15
yossarianukso it always recommends the latest regardless if its beta or not14:15
BluesKajyossarianuk, is the 367 driver in the "drivers list" ?14:16
yossarianukyes14:16
acheron_ukif you are worried you could manually downgrade to versions matching your main driver, then disable the ppa so it doesn't upgrade again14:16
yossarianuksure  - but  then I won;t get any bug fix updates ....14:16
acheron_uktrade off14:16
acheron_ukcould always put a hold on the packages instead14:17
BluesKajI tried to downgrade to nouveau after disabling the ppa , but the bug doesn't allow removing the 340 driver either14:17
yossarianukBluesKaj: just in case I haven't made it clear - when using the ubuntu-graphics ppa it always gets the latest version of nvidia-setting  - even though it can be different to the nvidia-driver version14:17
acheron_ukBluesKaj: yep, you have to work around it by editing the prerm files14:17
BluesKajyossarianuk, yes I understand that , think that's been the case for a while14:18
yossarianukok cool14:19
yossarianukthey also remove older versions ....14:19
yossarianukhttps://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=xenial14:19
yossarianuk(of settings)14:19
yossarianukI can only assume it must be fine......14:19
BluesKajacheron_uk, ok where are the prerm files , whatever they might be ?14:20
yossarianukBluesKaj: I believe its command to run after uninsstalling a package14:21
acheron_ukyossarianuk: never had a problem yet14:21
acheron_ukBluesKaj: there are description of that workaround in the bug comments14:22
acheron_ukhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1589006/comments/2614:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1589006 in snapd (Ubuntu) "Failed unmounting Mount unit for nvidia support in snappy" [Critical,In progress]14:22
acheron_ukfor example comment 23 there. replace 367 with 34014:23
acheron_ukyossarianuk: in this case a pre-removal script (prerm), but basically yes14:24
yossarianukacheron_uk: yes, I have had the pleasure of making a .deb package before....14:25
yossarianukI find making rpm and arch linux packages far easier....14:26
acheron_uksorry.14:26
yossarianuknoneed to be sorry (if that was aimed at me..)14:26
acheron_ukI've tinkered with rpm and pkgbuild14:27
BluesKajacheron_uk, think I'll wait for the fix, I seem to be able to remove and install other packages so if ai don't upgrade for a while it won't matter14:27
yossarianukarchlinux package building is by far the easiest I have played with14:27
acheron_uk.spec files. not my favourite14:27
yossarianukMe neither .... although I would say rpm building is more sane..14:28
yossarianukthan deb14:28
acheron_ukactually, I've found that taking a peek at the archlinux pkgbuild can be a good way to get a handle on how to build stuff14:29
acheron_uksimpler and more to the point14:29
acheron_ukthen go away to see how you can get that to work under another system14:29
BluesKajI'm talking about Yakkety here, my Xenial install isn't affected14:30
BluesKaj'Morning genii14:30
yossarianukAh didn't realise you were talking about Yakkety14:31
yossarianukprobably the best name yet ....14:31
acheron_uksame on either really. if you upgraded while the buggy packages were available14:31
geniiMornin' :)14:31
acheron_ukexcept for some reason I keep tying yaketty!14:33
yossarianuknow what Ubuntu should do is pay royalities for -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakety_Yak  and have it as the boot up sample..14:34
BluesKajacheron_uk, no matter yaketty or yakkety , it's still a silly handle :-)14:34
BluesKajeven google has it wrong14:35
acheron_ukthey are all silly. sorta the point14:36
BluesKajacheron_uk, at first the naming was quite a serious exerciseas the yrs went by it became less and less so14:38
BluesKajexercise, as14:39
acheron_ukno it sure how Warty Warthog is serious14:39
yossarianuki like the naming scheme, and debians...14:39
acheron_ukoh, I see what you mean14:39
yossarianukits better than closed source software generally.... Just check the kernel version names....14:40
BluesKajaren't warthogs warty ?14:40
acheron_ukdebian potato? WTF?14:41
acheron_ukand badgers are breezey?14:42
BluesKajof course14:42
* acheron_uk knows he can't prevail against this logic14:43
BluesKajI recall the ubuntu council members taking offence when we made fun of the a=names14:43
yossarianukpotato = mr potatohead14:46
BluesKaj :-)14:46
yossarianukwhat is debian going to do when they have ran out of Toy story characters ?14:49
BluesKajacheron_uk, but I understand your logic , it does make sense that the naming appeared to be all in fun by shuttleworth's view, but I guess some of council people were afraid to acknowledge his humour because they thoght how could he be so glib14:50
genii!codenames14:50
ubottuUbuntu has awesome release codenames. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames for more14:50
geniiFor W I wanted Wascally Wabbit14:51
BluesKajthe emperor's new clothes and all that14:51
BluesKajgenii, a nod to Elmer Fudd , good one :-)14:52
acheron_ukclivejo: will KCI pick up the the new version numbers 5.23 for frameworks on it's own somewhere, or will someone have to update each component?14:57
acheron_uksorry ^^ wrong channel14:57
eleziumHum.. Does Akonadi indexes all email?14:59
SmurphyI disabled akonadi.15:18
eleziumyeah.. it's not a big deal because I have plenty to RAM .. but I still find it somewhat abusing to use 1GIG!15:20
eleziumif I were to try it on my laptop, it would be a different story and probably even an issue.15:20
SmurphyI have 16G of ram on my mac mini - but as I never search like that - I don't use it.15:24
eleziumyeah.. we'll see.. might end up disabled..15:24
SmurphyActivated it. Will see what it does :}15:25
SmurphyAh - another question.15:25
eleziumCheck your MySQL process grow. ;)15:26
SmurphyAnyone knows why ethernet is activated on my mac-mini by default at start up ? Even though no Etherner is connected.15:26
Smurphybaloo is growing...15:26
eleziumI just remove my Gmail account from Kmail.  Reboot.  Will see if it is somewhat smaller.15:26
Smurphylol15:26
SmurphyI have to restart network-manager for it to actually activate WiFi.15:26
SmurphyAnyone has an idea ?15:26
eleziumSorry, I'm wired. :/15:27
SmurphyYeah - my 6,2 mac mini too. My 2,1 mac-mini in the basement is not ...15:27
SmurphyThat one is doing the issues.15:28
eleziumMay I ask why you have Mac Mini .. but use KDE?15:29
SmurphyI love the hardware (Old hardware, wouldn't buy a new one anymore) - and I have been a linuxer since end of 1992, and was present with KDE 1.0 (Even made the first french translation of KDE 1.0).15:30
SmurphyOS-X is like running in a cage. You have to do things exactly as Apple wants you to do it, you don't own the hardware/software you paid for, and you don't own the medias you pay fopr.15:31
Smurphythat - is why I run linux on the Apple hardware.15:31
eleziumSmurphy: Thanks.  I was just curious.  KDE 1.0 was also my first steps with Linux (urgl.. that's, hee... ok. I'm old) .. and .. Salutation!15:32
SmurphyDon't talk about it ;)15:36
Irish_canon Question. I have setup a UB14.04 server but not able to update it15:39
Irish_canoni have a static ip to the server...15:40
BluesKajSmurphy, right click on NM configure network connections, find the wired connection , edit , then uncheck the autoconnect in the general configurations tab15:50
Smurphyah. The autoconnect ? Could be. I installed it while connected to wire-network.16:01
SmurphyI'll test it right away. Thx for the hint. Has bugged me for a while now.16:01
SmurphyWas not that. I had already removed the Wired configuration completely.16:06
SmurphyI re-added one now, and marked it explicitely as non autoconnectable16:06
SmurphyWill see what it does next time :}16:06
BluesKajSmurphy, I see, hope it works ...I had that problem on my laptop ar first due to installing without wifi , but turning the ethernet off fixed it16:08
Irish_canonHello why is it that when I setup a server statically it doesnt update16:14
SmurphyIrish_canon: routing, DNS setup right ???16:14
Irish_canonyes I have other server working corrently16:15
SmurphyBy default - the system will not update automatically.16:15
SmurphyYou have to explicitely activate it.16:15
Irish_canonI have etip the interface file to static set the address network and gateway  also added nameserver... still not working16:17
SmurphyDid you restart the networking service ? (just asking, don't do it).16:17
Irish_canonyes i have16:19
SmurphyNetwork working ?16:20
Smurphysorry - have to leave -> Kids ...16:20
Irish_canonyes i can ping internal16:21
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Irish_canonalso able to ping 8.8.8.816:22
BluesKajIrish_canon,  look at answer #1 here, why it gets overwritten: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/174349/what-overwrites-etc-resolv-conf-on-every-boot17:24
paul_Hello!19:06
paul_Can anybody help. I'm trying to mount my Windows share. The computer is called MEDIAC and the folder is USBHDD. What do I enter into the Kwizard?19:07
paul_Anybody?19:08
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rattkingHi all, I am using 16.04 with the backports ppa and while I find its the most stable plasma 5 yet, I am getting duplicate contacts in the IM tray.. does anyone know how to prevent that? gnome's empathy isnt duplicating the contacts there.21:18
jimarvanhmm21:20
jimarvanrattking did you use two google account on "accounts online"?21:21
rattkingI have 1 google account setup21:21
jimarvancome prive ;)21:21
jimarvanI think I know what is going on21:22
rattkingcool21:22
jimarvanrattking: I hoped I help ;)21:30
jimarvan*I hope I helped21:30
jimarvanboy I am tired lol21:30
jimarvanrattking: let me know how it goes alright? if you have success please go to the kubuntu forums and report it, I will reply there too21:33
rattkingok, not working yet I will keep fiddling around21:33
rattkingfor the room, I did get this resolved by removing the accounts from kde online accounts and also removing them from googles connected apps, then readded the account in kde21:39
calherHow do I format a disk through the GUI?22:27
viewer|53812hello22:30
viewer|53812i need help if anyone can help me22:30
viewer|53812cant change font ui22:30
viewer|53812after install kubuntu-dekstop from ubuntu22:31
bprompt_calher:     in kde, you can just check the System > kde partitioning Manager22:35
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calherbprompt_: Not as nice as in Finder/GNOME, but works.22:40
level15Hi, all. I have a dumb error on my desktop PC. I have KDE 5.18.0 under ubuntu 16.04. When I try to set workspace theme and colors to breeze dark, panels, decorations, etc change just fine, but kde windows keep their light colors. ANy hitns?22:41
level15Check a screenshot here: http://pasteboard.co/1w091PtK.png22:42
bprompt_level15:   check the Application Style section, to set it for the windows decorations as well22:45
level15bprompt_: ok, sec22:45
bprompt_level15:   you simply changed the theme for some components, is all22:45
level15bprompt_: widget style only shows breeze, no breeze,, dark, am I missing something installed? Window decorations is already set to breeze22:47
bprompt_hmmm22:49
level15check http://pasteboard.co/1w0xoIQ0.png and http://pasteboard.co/1w0z4z7u.png22:49
level15The preview is fine, bot for some reason it does not apply the colors to the windows22:49
bprompt_level15:     you mean, the inner area of the window, as opposed to its borders and decorations.... I think that'd be the "desktop theme"22:51
bprompt_level15:   or the look and feel, I'd think22:51
calherDoes anyone here use Dropbox with Dolphin?22:52
bprompt_level15:    bear in mind, that picking a theme, will apply that theme, however, the theme settings, do not have to change everything, that is, when applying a theme, the theme may only include changing a few colors, or changing all available feature colors22:52
Rebecca92hallo , i've an issue. i cannot force plain text association with kate . using # kcmshell5 filetypes # or left click menu in dolphin configuration never saved. i find every time association forced with firefox or chrome. there is another way to force correct association? thank22:58
level15bprompt_: yeah, I know. Let me enumerate what I have done so far: 1. Appearance->Look and feel-> Breeze dar. 2. Appearance->Desktop theme->Breeze dark. 3. Appearance->Cursor theme->Breeze. 4. Appearance->Color->Breeze dark. 5. Appearance->Application style->Widget style->BReeze 6. Appearance->Application style->Window decorations->org.kde.breeze. Still no joy :-(22:58
bprompt_level15: maybe ... a reinstall of theme :)23:08
bprompt_level15:    it'd be in the repositories anway, among other themes available anway23:08
level15bprompt_: alright, let me try that23:09
level15any repos you can recommend for ubuntu 16.04?23:09
bprompt_hmmm for themes? hmm.. you can find many in the included repositories23:15
brasil77ola. boa noite23:16
bprompt_!br | brasil7723:16
ubottubrasil77: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.23:16
abhishekhi guys!23:40
abhishekI am getting this error in my log  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1588428/comments/1023:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1588428 in linux (Ubuntu) "PCI bus error on startup while booting into login screen (Kubuntu 16.04)" [Low,Incomplete]23:41

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