/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/06/07/#ubuntu-on-air.txt

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Since-187715 minutes to-go !14:47
Since-1877I cannot see a countdown timer : https://www.youtube.com/user/UbuntuOnAir/videos14:50
Since-187710 minutes to-go !14:50
Since-18775 minuts to-go !14:55
Since-1877**minutes#14:55
Since-1877**minutes14:55
Since-18772 minutes to-go ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQzw6y83bEM14:57
pewpawpoeno see video :(15:00
popeypatience15:00
pewpawpoeok have15:00
pewpawpoeis good now15:00
dpmo/15:01
pewpawpoewhy are you wastin energy? turn off yours light15:01
pewpawpoeis enough light in the room15:01
czajkowskiAloha15:01
dpmo/15:02
Since-1877Hiya czajkowski How's the ckickens ?15:03
pewpawpoeQUESTION: what snapps you guys use?15:04
czajkowskiSince-1877: good thanks, although we had to put down one hen yesterday :(15:05
dpmhttps://gitter.im/ubuntu/snappy-playpen15:05
ahayzenQUESTION: When will all the coreapps be snapped ? ;-) ...  (if that hasn't been asked yet)15:05
Since-1877QUESTION: I found this bugzilla | https://bugzilla.kernel.org/ | If I deal with bugs, and solve them there - shall they filter through to Ubuntu-geneic-kernel with the next release ?15:06
pewpawpoeQUESTION: i use Krita snaap but no start, is work for you?15:06
Since-1877dpm, opening - I use gitter for Ancient Beast.15:06
czajkowskipff gitter!15:09
dpmhttps://github.com/ubuntu/snappy-playpen15:13
pewpawpoeQUESTION: can have paied snapp? so can sell in store?15:13
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KnightmareQUESTION: Do you know if anyone from Valve has plans to snap steam?15:15
Since-1877Oww - good question Knightmare ! They only sold 1/2 a million handsets - so maybe 400,000 steam machines though . But I like them !15:16
Since-1877QUESTION: Do you think we should have a warning about Ubucon Europe and ungovernable attacks that may transpire ?15:19
Since-1877i.e. Violent attacks.15:20
Since-1877QUESTION: How can I use a talk-app in the Ubuntu community, on Ubuntu-Touch if I don't want to insert a sim-phone-card ?15:23
ahayzenQUESTION: Is it still possible to install Unity8 in a LXC container on the desktop, so that you don't need to add PPAs to your 'stable' desktop to try out unity8? Or was this dropped due to apparmor/lxc issues?15:23
Since-1877QUESTION: Why isn't @ballooons on here more ?15:24
KnightmareQUESTION: Do you know how 4k support is coming for unity8?15:26
Since-1877QUESTION: When shall USB memory sticks be back available in the store ? & wasn't it obvious that these would be over-subcribed ? When are they returning to the Canonical store, 'cos this is a bottle-neck.15:27
ahayzenQUESTION: Random thought, as we are moving away from cycle based releases (towards snappy :-) ). Is there a central place where translators can see which projects have an upcoming update and therefore need translations to be done? Currently we have to ping mailing lists of the translators to tell them we are about to release, but I wonder if there is a better solution for the future. Eg using milestone dates in lp and have a page that15:27
ahayzenlists untranslated projects in order release date or something15:27
Since-1877QUESTION: Any movement on the hud ?15:28
IP-FreelyQUESTION: How you voting in the EU referendum popey? :D15:30
popey:)15:31
KnightmareQUESTION: Would it be possible to snap a desktop environment? (i.e. unity, kde, gnome etc)15:34
Since-1877QUESTION: Is there an Uber Ubuntu Edge crowdfunding app out there somewhere in  the wild, still kindling our aspirations to get a new Uber phone ?15:35
* Since-1877 sits and hopes...15:35
Since-1877IP-Freely: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFt-pRIvL9E saw this & thought of you.15:37
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ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: Has there been any questions about the Hud and messaging fraimwork? if not, Hud and messaging framework?15:39
Since-1877QUESTION: What is happening with getting ubuntu discourse sorted out ? I pinged @jcastro on  discourse, but he's stome-walled me .15:40
popeyyes ChloeWolfieGirl15:40
popey:)15:40
jcastrowhat's left to do?15:40
jcastroI thought it was going readonly?15:40
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: Theres gonna be intregration with music and messaging, will there be intergration with other apps like Gallery?15:40
ChloeWolfieGirlpopey: +1 ;)15:40
ChloeWolfieGirlHaha x'315:41
dpmChloeWolfieGirl, someone beat you to ask the hud question?15:41
dpm:)15:41
Since-1877jcastro I asked you a question concerning moving the ubuntu discourse to a top level ubuntu domain, that is available. We have the funding but we need more talk - have you seen the latest posts ? on that topic .15:42
dpmhttp://projects.davidplanella.org/stats/yakkety15:42
jcastroSince-1877: I don't recall that, can you link me up?15:43
dpmhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations-stats15:43
dpmhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations-stats15:43
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: When will we get some main app updates, it feels like its been a while since we've had app updates, though that might be because I'm usually on rc15:43
ahayzendpm, ah that is cool :-)15:43
KnightmareQUESTION: Can you snap a snap?15:43
Since-1877jcastro: http://ow.ly/3rm93010FRQ15:44
MichaelTunnelldiscourse is cool but askubuntu is something I prefer15:45
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: Will Snaps let us change themes, backgrounds and other customisability things you can do in other OS's like android?15:45
Since-1877we need both ! for phones.15:45
MichaelTunnellChloeWolfieGirl: what do you mean? in specific apps?15:46
MichaelTunnelllike some apps have dark modes and light modes? that kind of thing?15:46
Guest93445QUESTION: are snaps a replacement for PPAs?15:46
jcastroSince-1877: I don't get what you mean by "ubuntu.com" as the domain, it's already hosted on an ubuntu.com domain?15:47
MichaelTunnellGuest93445: not immediately but eventually I hope so15:47
Since-1877QUESTION: How do we specifically find bnugs on lag for Nexus 4 and 7 phablets ?15:47
Since-1877**bugs15:47
ahayzenQUESTION: Due to snappy using A/B partitioning, when we get system updates will that mean that we will have to reboot to install these? Or will we be able to have live system updates?15:47
Since-1877jcastro: You need to diversify .. try www.ubuntu.im15:47
ChloeWolfieGirlMichaelTunnell: I mean in general, though more modes would be nice in apps, but also things like keyboards, scope backgrounds, many other things15:48
Since-1877Not everything i life is a dot com !15:48
MichaelTunnellSince-1877: why .im?15:48
MichaelTunnellChloeWolfieGirl: I agree with david that it should be on the OS level rather than in the apps themselves . . . similar to how it is now.15:49
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: Popey, can we have a device reviel this Q&A?15:49
Since-1877its available and it signifies messaging (i.e. instant message) , gitter.im uses it and we already use https://gitter.im/ubuntu/snappy-playpen for really good discussions15:49
jcastroSince-1877: I don't really see what the domain has to do with the site being shut down?15:50
MichaelTunnellSince-1877: additional domains should be only done if they are focused on a topic or a particular region.15:50
ChloeWolfieGirlMichaelTunnell: Yeah but I heard that there where chances that snaps could offer extra things you could change, like something in system settings.15:50
jcastrolike, if you want to export and run discourse on ubuntu.im you could do that if you wanted15:50
jcastroI can ask them for a data dump15:50
Since-1877jcastro, Basically, you host it on that domain to save it !15:50
MichaelTunnellChloeWolfieGirl: in theory, in the future, snaps could be applied to the system itself as well as apps so yea its possible someday15:50
pwd_Hi guys. Can I ask if you can give the Ubuntu-Mozilla-Daily team a kick, there's been no updates to Firefox Nightly since 2016040115:50
Since-1877What is the problem ?15:51
ChloeWolfieGirlMichaelTunnell: Yay :)15:51
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: Has there been any update with the firefox snap?15:51
jcastroSince-1877: I don't know, I'm certainly not stopping you from doing that if you want to15:51
Since-1877Ok, I shall , but I need acknowledgement for the db and past messages. How do I do that ?15:52
KnightmareQUESTION: BTRFS vs ZFS where does the future lie?15:52
jcastroSince-1877: jet me a mail on jorge@ubuntu.com and I'll ask them to get you a database dump.15:52
Since-1877Ok, cheers jcastro15:52
Since-1877It'll be from porridge@trisquel.im15:53
MichaelTunnellChloeWolfieGirl: I dont think the firefox snap exists yet15:53
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: have either of you use XMPP somewhat recently? how is it? I hear a lot of things have brought it much more up todate to compete with apps like whatsapp and telegram recently but I have little ideas over XMPP I just pretend I do.15:54
ChloeWolfieGirlMichaelTunnell: I dont beleive so but they also updated firefox so I thought it was coming soon-ish last release?15:54
ChloeWolfieGirlQUESTION: What do you think or want the next Ubuntu Phone will be?15:56
KnightmareQUESTION: Have any major project decided to start snapping like mozilla?15:56
MichaelTunnellMatrix has heavily improved recently to the point it's not a federated slack thing15:56
MichaelTunnellso you get benefits of slack but also federated so you can also contact people in other matrix installs15:57
MichaelTunnellChloeWolfieGirl: Firefox only announced they would do it around the release of 16.04 which means it's only been one month and one week. Mozilla releases a new version of Firefox every 6 weeks or so. This means that 47 was started before they announced they would work on a Snap.15:59
ahayzenthanks dpm popey :-D16:00
KnightmareNo, no, no! Thank you!16:00
popeythanks everyone!  ðŸ˜ƒ16:00
MichaelTunnellpopey: why is the calendar on ubuntuonair.com not updated for today? http://ubuntuonair.com/calendar/16:00
dpmthanks all!16:00
popeynice to get new and interesting questions16:00
MichaelTunnell;)16:00
popey#voteremain  ðŸ˜ƒ16:00
popeywtf16:00
popeyi put it in the calendar last week!16:00
KnightmareI'll think about it!16:00
MichaelTunnellit's empty right now :)16:00
popeyjose: does something bodge the calendar?16:00
popeyI very defintitely put it in there16:01
josepopey: repeat events? makes the bot go crazy and ifttt not work16:01
popeyfixed16:02
popeygah16:02
popeycan we fix that?16:02
MichaelTunnellChloeWolfieGirl: my guess is that 48 might receive a snap but more likely 49 or 5016:02
josepopey: nope, bot maintainer is not active anymore and it's in Perl16:02
popeyI didn't realise the bot or ifttt went nuts16:02
popeyhahah "and it's perl"16:02
popeywhat does the bot do?16:02
joseyou know, Perl's impossible to read16:03
popeypost to twitter?16:03
joseyou can write it, but NEVER read it16:03
popeyyeah, line noise16:03
popey:)16:03
joseyes, ifttt posts to twitter16:03
popeyok.16:03
joseit bases the post on several of the cal values16:03
popeywhere does the bot run?16:04
ChloeWolfieGirlMichaelTunnell: ahh that makes sense.16:05
popeySince-1877: I got a reply about the usb sticks - it's currently waiting on design artwork16:05
josepopey: private server over irssi16:05
popeyok16:06

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