[13:19] <mrgoodcat> ColonelPanic001: yea he can't really. the VMs have to run full operating systems. he's using this laptop for a pen-testing cert
[13:19] <mrgoodcat> the problem is that he lives in hawaii and has to fly to the mainland and live in a hotel during the cert process
[13:19] <mrgoodcat> so he doesn't want a desktop or even a laptop that is above 15" because of portability
[13:20] <mrgoodcat> he also wants a dgpu because he wants to game while he's living in the hotel
[13:45] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: You're going to want two drives
[13:46] <cmaloney> and 15" computer with two drives? That sounds like a unicorn. :)
[13:47] <mrgoodcat> yea i know
[13:47] <mrgoodcat> i had a 17 with 2 drives and dgpu
[13:47] <mrgoodcat> that thing was a monster
[13:50] <jrwren> i'm sad the lightest system76 system is 3.6lb, but I want something 3 or less
[13:51] <rick_h_> you don't want system76. I love those guys but the laptops aren't all that great
[13:51] <cmaloney> I want to belive
[13:51] <cmaloney> but we bought a Dell
[13:52] <rick_h_> yea, I would love to and I keep looking at their stuff
[13:52] <rick_h_> but everyone I know iwth them (and we've got a few folks in canonical with them) they don't hold up or are as solid ootb as the thinkpads/etc
[13:52] <cmaloney> Well, Thinkpads are tanks
[13:52] <cmaloney> even the cheapies
[13:53] <cmaloney> shame Lenovo can't seem to leave well-enough alone.
[13:56] <jcastro> s76 make good desktops at least
[13:56] <jcastro> my X230 was perfect, it held two drives
[13:56] <jcastro> but started to fall apart
[13:56] <jcastro> hey X240 is a POS
[13:58] <rick_h_> yea, <3 the desktop I got from them
[13:59] <jrwren> i've had a system76 before. I know they are just rebadged clevos sagers and whatever else garbage laptops there are.
[13:59] <_stink_> rick_h_: you still actively woodworking?
[13:59] <rick_h_> _stink_: no, I still have my garage with tools but not had time to do it in some time
[13:59] <jrwren> The only other linux laptop I've seen that looks good is XPS and I just cannot bring myself to buy a dell again.
[13:59] <rick_h_> _stink_: hoping to get back into it after the summer camping season is done
[14:00] <_stink_> rick_h_: cool.  i am thinking again about starting
[14:00] <rick_h_> jrwren: yea, xps I got was ok, but still ran back to thinkpads after < 1yr
[14:00] <rick_h_> _stink_: cool! what kind of stuff are you thinking?
[14:00] <rick_h_> _stink_: happy to talk shop any time
[14:00] <cmaloney> jrwren: We got one. It's quite nice
[14:00] <cmaloney> Dell upped their game
[14:00] <jrwren> maybe i'll get an msft laptop and just suffer from things that don't work ;]
[14:00] <cmaloney> That Surface is a nice machine
[14:01] <cmaloney> MS makes great hardware when they want to
[14:01] <rick_h_> jrwren: ugh, good luck if you go that route
[14:01] <_stink_> rick_h_: awesome - i have a built in bench/'cubby' thing to go in the front closet as first real project... probably with some boxy storage type stuff for the garage to work out the kinks first
[14:01] <rick_h_> jrwren: I need to reinstall on my surface and :/ at stuff still not working
[14:01] <_stink_> rick_h_: i'd really like ot stay with unpowered tools
[14:01] <rick_h_> _stink_: definitely, happy to let you test drive anything. I've got a bunch of hand stuff
[14:01] <_stink_> sweet!
[14:10] <cmaloney> -http://openmetalcast.com/2016/06/07/open-metalcast-episode-131-late-night-metal/
[16:22] <greg-g> nevermind the media, I'm going to exercise my democratic (sic) right and go vote today
[16:23] <Scary_Guy> http://us.dlink.com/business-solutions/free-10-gigabit-nic-card/ I don't know some people here might benefit from it
[16:23] <Scary_Guy> I wish I had money
[16:33] <cmaloney> greg-g: Stick it to the man
[16:36] <greg-g> cmaloney: I wish
[16:37] <jrwren> I wnat 10gigabit!!!
[16:37] <jrwren> thanks Scary_Guy
[16:37] <cmaloney> http://www.amys.com/products/product-detail/indian-meals/000059
[16:38] <jrwren> hrm, nope, out of my price range
[16:39] <jrwren> why is 10GE so $$$
[16:39] <cmaloney> I never thought I'd see the day when an ethernet card needed a heat sink / fan
[16:39] <jrwren> something consumer grade needs to pic it up to help drive cost down. Something like drobo.
[16:39] <cmaloney> now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time
[16:40] <Scary_Guy> I've seen it, but it didn't need it.  It was some "extreme gaming" marketing BS NIC
[16:40] <jrwren> err... who is that drobo that isn't slow?
[16:40] <Scary_Guy> drobo is slow?
[16:40] <rick_h_> drobo is fail, don't go near them
[16:41] <Scary_Guy> I always thought they looked neat
[16:41] <Scary_Guy> good to know
[16:41] <cmaloney> Drobo had a lot of issues
[16:41] <rick_h_> I don't know anyone that's had one and loved it over a long period of time
[16:41] <cmaloney> they went from advertising darlings to OMGWTF
[16:41] <rick_h_> they've got a great honeymoon period followed by pain
[16:41] <jrwren> i've never heard of them being fast.
[16:42] <jrwren> Synology is drobo fast and done right.
[16:42] <cmaloney> si si
[16:44] <Scary_Guy> bookmarked, thanks
[16:44] <jrwren> synology inspired me to get better at using LVM and ever sense, I've loved my home server disk config.
[16:44] <jrwren> I don't use synology, becuase I'd rather do it myself.
[16:54] <Scary_Guy> oh, this looked neat too http://ofmodemsandmen.com/index.html
[16:56] <jrwren> very cool
[17:29] <jcastro> synology or qnap are the best ones if you're prebuying
[20:26] <_stink_> cmaloney: did you make a blank disk for saving source you wrote in merlin?
[20:27] <cmaloney> I just used that demo disk
[20:27] <cmaloney> thatI shared
[20:29] <cmaloney> I have yet to figure out how to make a blank disk under Linapple
[20:31] <_stink_> ahh got it