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nacctarpman: the debian package is done by upstream, afaict00:55
naccbut not sure, i've not looked at the changes00:55
nacchttps://sourceforge.net/p/postfixadmin/code/HEAD/tree/branches/postfixadmin-2.3/debian/control00:56
naccBelldandu: tarpman: --^00:56
naccas explicit mariadb-* alternatives00:56
nacci'd expect tht's what unstable will pick up when a new release happens00:56
naccBelldandu: so you might just consider pinging the debian maintainers and asking if they'd package the new release00:57
timmyhi anyne around to help me with a apache problem?03:42
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sarnoldGuest98043: people come and go.. best to just ask and hope :)03:44
Guest98043hi..i just installed apache and php 703:46
Guest98043everything seems to work fine when serviing html files03:46
Guest98043when i am serving a json file03:46
Guest98043i realised the content repeats03:46
Guest98043this is what my content looks like as rendered by the browser03:47
Guest98043<content> HTTP/1.0 200 OK Cache-Control: no-cache Content-Type:  application/json Date:          Wed, 08 Jun 2016 03:40:50 GMT <content>03:47
Guest98043so the content to be served is displayed..followed by HTTP/1.0 200 OK Cache-Control: no-cache Content-Type:  application/json Date:          Wed, 08 Jun 2016 03:40:50 GMT03:47
Guest98043then the content repeats again03:47
sarnoldo_O03:50
fricklerEmilienM: the error that you were seeing is the same that blocked the neutron gate yesterday. tempest update broke neutron-fwaas tests. fixed by https://review.openstack.org/32615005:12
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ronatorhi there. I have some ubuntu 16.04 servers with Kernel 4.4. Can I disable "mounting" of debugfs? On Ubuntu 14.04 with kernel 4.4 the debugs entry would go away after a reboot. But not with ubuntu 16.04. Any idea?06:13
ronatordebugfs06:13
sarnoldis it in your /etc/fstab?06:13
ronatornoope06:14
ronatoronly disk-by-uuid and swap06:14
ronatorexample: mount06:14
ronatormqueue /dev/mqueue mqueue rw,relatime 0 006:14
ronatordebugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs rw,relatime 0 006:14
ronatorhugetlbfs /dev/hugepages hugetlbfs rw,relatime 0 006:15
ronatorI don't have such entries with ubuntu 14.0406:15
ronator(this is not the full mount of course)06:15
sarnoldwell now06:15
sarnoldI've got it mounted on two of my systems too.06:15
sarnoldharupmh.06:15
ronatoryes, and if you use icinga/nagios and check disks, you have to adjust stuff so that it won't conmplain about debugfs. SInce I won't use it actively I wonder if I can make it go away.06:16
ronatorThere was an issue request for this at icinga2 so they "fixed" it, but I just do not understand if I can just disable it and where ...06:17
sarnoldronator: aha. I think I've got it:  systemctl cat sys-kernel-debug.mount06:17
ronatorlet me see ...06:17
ronatorwow, how did you come up with this so fast ...06:18
sarnoldprobably you could symlink /etc/systemd/system/sys-kernel-debug.mount to /dev/null to forbid it from happening. maybe systemctl mask can do that for you? maybe you'd need to stop the service first to get it to umount...06:18
sarnoldronator: just a hunch to check systemd when I didn't see it in my fstab either. I got lucky.06:18
ronatorWhat about commenting out all below [Mount] ? Or is this not a true file?06:18
sarnoldit is, but the version in /lib is owned by the package -- if you want ot make changes, they should go into a file in /etc/ instead06:19
ronatorbut yeah, awesome tip sarnold, thx I was searching the net and only fin ding boring descriptions of debugfs ;-)06:19
sarnoldand indeed it feels like a mistake for it to be loaded by default..06:20
ronatorfun fact is: I have ubuntu 14.04 with kernel 4.4. first bott, it shows debugfs. reboot and it is gone! with ubuntu 16.04 and kernel 4.4 it won't just disappear.06:21
ronatorso thx for your hint, this way I can check the other systems that don't have it and compare them06:21
sarnoldheh, I'm surprised debugfs shows up in the first boot of 4.4 on a 14.04 -- in this case it's the systemd unit that causes it to be mounted06:23
ronatoryes, I saw it happening. and monitoring plugins where failing because no permissions on that "device" ...06:30
ronator-h06:30
sarnoldit'd be worth poking upstreams on those plugins to try to get them to blacklist the in-kernel filesystems06:31
sarnoldI mean, it's handy, it reported this issue :) but it's also probably more annoying than useful06:31
ronatortrue. and yes, icinga2 e.g. did change the defaults for check_disks especially for ubuntu 16.04 ;-) I wonder if this hapens with Debian 8 ...06:32
ronatorand I also wonder why the heck ubuntu 16.04 ships lxcd by default ... this also leads to stuff like "Additional Info: DISK CRITICAL - /run/lxcfs/controllers/freezer is not accessible: No permission"06:36
sarnoldah, that's an easy one :) lxd is pretty neat and we wanted a low barrier to entry for folks to try it out :)06:37
ronatorhrrhrr06:38
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Mc_ulihi, wnat to setup some nodes with conjure-up. How many servers and storage do i need ? is there any kind of reference and explained where the e.g. cephs is installed or where the horizon dashboard goes?08:14
Mc_uliits for openstack08:14
guzzlefryIs there a recommended PPA for installing PHP7 on 14.04?08:27
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fricklercoreycb: regarding debian/patches/skip-ryu-tests.patch for neutron, there are two uses of ryu, the second one is as the reference implementation for the bgp-dragent. I'm a bit sceptical about dropping tests for that part completely, because we are actively using it in our deployments08:55
rbasakstokachu: see conjure-up question above please.09:41
rbasakMc_uli: stokachu won't be in for a few hours at least, assuming he's not away.09:41
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Lunar_Lampw/in 111:02
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coreycbfrickler, I've dropped the skip-ryu-tests.patch and no longer skip those tests in the newton b1 release11:41
coreycbfrickler, build-depends no longer need to be in main so we were able to drop that patch11:42
fricklercoreycb: ah, great, that answers my follow-up question already ;)11:42
coreycbfrickler, :)11:43
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EmilienMfrickler: can you backport https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326150/ to Mitaka?12:29
fricklerEmilienM: I can try, it probably would help if you can add a note to https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1589521 stating how this affects you for Mitaka still12:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1589521 in tap-as-a-service "AttributeError: type object 'BaseNetworkTest' has no attribute '_try_delete_resource'" [Undecided,In progress]12:36
stokachurbasak: i've got this channel highlighted on conjure-up keywords, unfortunately i just got online12:40
EmilienMfrickler: well, I have the same trace so I'm not sure what can I add12:51
fricklerEmilienM: hmm, right, looks like it is a clean cherry-pick anyway, so lets wait what the neutrinos have to say on this (https://review.openstack.org/327068)12:57
EmilienMok12:57
EmilienMin the meantime, I unblocked our CI in disabling fwaas on ubuntu12:57
rbasakstokachu: np. The guy asking left anyway.13:01
stokachurbasak: is there like an info bot in here? so we could do like !conjure-up and it'll point them to askubuntu.com?13:02
rbasak!13:03
rbasak!info13:03
rbasakI thought there was once, but evidently not.13:03
rbasakstokachu: ah, you watch askubuntu.com for conjure-up stuff? I can just point people there then. That's probably easier even if no bot.13:04
stokachurbasak: yea that would be awesome13:04
rbasakCool, I'll do that - thanks.13:05
frickler!yum13:18
ubottuUh, don't you mean !apt ?13:18
fricklerits still there it seems ;)13:19
Xinhowdy all13:34
rbasakcaribou: around? I'm looking at your updated kexec-tools MP.13:46
rbasakcaribou: I'm quite happy for you to just upload without a second review, but I'm going through as if you're not an uploader in order to try out the process.13:47
rbasakI don't have my old git repo around, and I'd like to diff from before your rebase to after your rebase, but I can't find the old branch. Usefully LP remembers, so it's apparently de45e23.13:48
rbasakcaribou: would you mind tagging de45e23 as merge.v1 and pushing that please? I'm not sure this is actually documented anywhere but I intended that to be the process when asking for a re-review (or when you want to keep an older merge branch around before rebasing for any other reason) so the reviewer can get to both branches.13:50
princehello13:56
princeThis is for ubuntu servers aka vpses right?13:56
tewardcan anyone think of any valid sane reason that when someone issues a 'ping' from 14.04 server that it would send the ping out over both the MAC address on that NIC port, but also a MAC address that doesn't even exist on the system (but isn't a broadcast MAC address)?13:56
tewardprince: this is a support channel for Ubuntu Server, not necessarily just VPSes13:57
princeteward: obviously not just vpses, but for vps support as well I assume?13:57
tewardprince: again, it depends - from the Ubuntu OS on the VPS, we can assist, for the actual VPS itself, go to your provider13:58
princeOh no, ubuntu server related.13:58
tewardand in many cases what may be an "OS" issue is not, and is actually a provider issue13:58
tewardprince: you're free to ask your question, but you can get pointed to elsewhere if it's not actually an Ubuntu issue13:58
tewardthat said, next time just ask your question13:58
princeGod!13:58
tewardrather than asking the premise of the channel13:58
princeDo you need me to leave or something?13:58
tewarduh, what?13:58
princeI said it's ubuntu related13:58
tewardprince: so ask your REAL QUESTION13:58
coreycbjamespage, ddellav: I just uploaded cinder b1 for real this time.  Looks like just heat and nova are stuck in proposed for the known MIRs we have.14:00
jamespagecoreycb, \o/14:00
Xinhey guys, im looking for some kind of product to automate sync'ing the current dev server over to a backup server, starting the backup servers required, and to update my DNS record to have the backup as the primary server14:01
Xinand then signal me when the backup server has replicated globally type thing14:01
Xinaka its ok for me to take the production server offline14:01
Xinand do whatever14:01
XinI figure something for this must exist14:01
Xinthough its not terrible to do by hand14:01
ddellavcoreycb awesome. I'm working on the monasclient mir now14:01
coreycbddellav, ok cool14:02
coreycbjamespage, suppose we can start backporting all the clients/oslos and core packages that are missing from the newton UCA?14:02
jamespagecoreycb, please do!14:03
coreycbjamespage, ok14:03
jamespagecoreycb, branch PPA for newton is almost deployable14:03
coreycbjamespage, awesome14:03
jamespagecoreycb, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326597/ that needs landing and then we are all good14:03
Xinno ideas folks?14:04
Xin;(14:04
jamespageXin, you might need that question to bake for a bit more that 3 mins :-)14:04
Xinlol nah its what I do currently14:04
XinIf theres a better way im all ears!14:05
coreycbjamespage, why not use the package config for apache?14:05
jamespagecoreycb, well its a bit of a nuance of the charm14:05
jamespagehaving two files named kesytone.conf confused the crap out of the ostemplategenerator14:05
coreycbjamespage, ok14:05
tewardprince: i didn't say you couldn't ask about your issue, by the way - did you still want to ask your question?14:15
princeteward: It's fine besides feeling offended, I'll probably ask later.14:26
tewardwell, sorry, it wasn't *meant* that way14:27
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jscarHI, ubuntu newbie question.... how can I tell if apparmor utilties is installed?14:35
jscarhello anyone?14:37
naccjscar: do you mean apparmor itself or some specific tooling?14:38
naccjscar: for apparmor itself `apt-cache policy apparmor`14:38
jscarI'm trying to put mysqld into complain mode but aa-complain returns 'command not found' so I think apparmor utilties might not be installed but I want to know how to check14:40
jscarapparmor itself is running14:40
\9find out what the package name is, using apt-cache search14:41
naccapt-cache search aa-complain14:41
\9and then use apt-cache policy, to find out whether it's installed or not14:41
naccapt-cache policy <pkgname>14:41
nacc\9: :)14:41
jscarthank you - so much learning! :)14:43
jscarapt-cache policy apparmor-utils returns Installed: (none)14:45
jscarGuess it's not installed :)14:45
naccyep ;)14:46
jscarmany thanks for the pointers14:46
coreycbddellav, I think we both have package ci duties today so just to let you know I'm working on cinder14:57
ddellavcoreycb ok. I actually put myself down for tuesday and friday but i'll do one tandem with you a couple times14:57
coreycbddellav, oh ok I thought jamespage had tues/thurs.  fix up the table then if you can.14:58
ddellavcoreycb when i looked only monday and thursday were selected by you guys heh14:58
coreycbddellav, oh package ci, not bugs14:59
ddellavcoreycb ahhhh, yes, ok. I haven't looked at CI yet14:59
John[Lisbeth]Term mode is eh15:29
John[Lisbeth]but maybe I am just butthurt because I always forget to use c-c c-k and c-c c-j15:29
John[Lisbeth]I also feel like those two keybinds could be a toggle15:29
John[Lisbeth]so just one keybind15:29
John[Lisbeth]I mainly run into trouble when I do fancy rendering things like resizing terminals15:30
John[Lisbeth]but every now and then a curses application will just bug out15:30
John[Lisbeth]runs x smoothly15:30
John[Lisbeth]oops15:31
John[Lisbeth]wrong channel15:31
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jackdpetersonOdd_Bloke -- following up today on https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-images/+bug/1569237  Solution is to get the base image to have the default user be vagrant and not ubuntu.15:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1569237 in vagrant "vagrant xenial box is not provided with vagrant/vagrant username and password" [Undecided,New]15:38
jackdpetersonI was able to connect after a while -- timing was a factor; however, that's still broken from the vagrant workflow because the 16.04 vagrant box image doesn't follow vagrant conventions. I referenced the docs in my latest comment.15:39
Odd_Blokejackdpeterson: o/15:43
jackdpeterson14.04, on the other hand does.15:44
jackdpetersonUID/GID for vagrant:vagrant would be 1000/1000, respectively.15:47
Odd_Blokejackdpeterson: Right; Vagrant does allow boxes to configure what username they use (which is why `vagrant ssh` works), and using the `ubuntu` user is consistent with other Ubuntu images.15:47
Odd_Blokejackdpeterson: So is it just that people everywhere don't know this and assume the vagrant user will exist?15:47
jackdpetersonThat's correct -- the assumption is that the vagrant user always exists and is the 'default'. Then people stack on provisioners to sync up code between their host machine's FS and internal VM configuration. this assumption is generally safe since that is the convention.15:49
Odd_BlokeOK, fair enough.15:50
jackdpetersonand that uid/gid is based on my pulling up the 14.04 image and comparing.15:53
Odd_Blokejackdpeterson: I've updated the bug description, does that look reasonable to you?15:54
jackdpetersonYep, that's very close to what my title was on the other cross-referenced bug was -- so I'm happy with the accuracy of that :-)15:55
Odd_Blokejackdpeterson: Cool; now did you mention that you were interested in fixing it? ^_^15:55
jackdpetersonI added some confusion with the SSH-related nonsense (my apologies)15:55
jackdpetersonYeah, If I can, I'm more than happy to!15:55
Odd_Blokejackdpeterson: So the relevant file is http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/livecd-rootfs/trunk/view/head:/live-build/ubuntu-cpc/hooks/042-vagrant.binary15:57
Odd_Blokejackdpeterson: It's pretty crufty, unfortunately, but the way it works is basically to set up a cloud-init metadata source which is used at box boot to do configuration.15:57
Odd_Blokejackdpeterson: So I would suggest pulling down the latest yakkety Vagrant box (http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/yakkety/current/yakkety-server-cloudimg-amd64-vagrant.box), unpacking that, modifying the contents and repacking it until you get something that works.15:59
Odd_Blokejackdpeterson: And then work out what will need to change in that hook.15:59
jackdpetersonSure, then reply with a Github Gist?16:00
Odd_Blokejackdpeterson: Sure. :)16:01
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coreycbddellav, cinder should be fixed up for newton CI, looking at neutron now17:55
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jackdpetersonOdd_Bloke -- I have a gist -- but to be honest, I'm not sure if these changes will __work__ I'm not seeing documentation on how to spin up an environment for creating images from those hooks. https://gist.github.com/jackdpeterson/64c1f8a517087e07f7e40a1ace76ada0  Lines 70-72, and 115 are the changes18:27
jackdpetersonand when I manually execute these scripts it complains about missing files (and stepping through this and manually fixing the references to other paths) is tedious and feels wrong18:28
jackdpetersonoh, and the password doesn't need to be random ... it can just be 'vagrant'18:29
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coreycbddellav, neutron should be fixed up for CI.  I'll leave designate liberty and nova newton for you.18:51
ddellavcoreycb: ok, sounds good.18:52
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blizzowI just wanted to come in here and reiterate that it is a moronic idea to install lxc and lxcfs by default in the server distribution and whoever is responsible for that decision should have their hard disks formatted. May an rm -rf /* come upon their root session.21:39
jrwrenwhen an upstart service runs and writes output, its stdout and stderr are written to /var/log/upstart/NAMEOFSERVICE.log   where does stdout and stderr go in the systemd case?21:47
rharperjrwren: depends on the unit file but typically, systemctl status -l $service.service shows output from the daemon21:55
jrwrenrharper: thanks. I dug some more and found that what I expecte to be on stderr wasn't there because starting the process wasn't getting that far.21:56
rharperah21:56
caliculkWhat does everyone here use for a combination of DCIM and Asset/Inventory Management for their hardware devices in a server room?23:54

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