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mappshola05:49
diploMorning all :)06:54
davmor2morning all08:32
bittinmorning08:37
SuperMattg'day08:42
SuperMattcan someone hilight me please?08:43
TwistedLucidityHighlight you?08:44
bittinSuperMatt08:45
davmor2SuperMatt: no08:48
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Wednesday, and happy World Oceans Day! 😃  http://www.worldoceansday.org/08:51
SuperMattthanks guys08:52
davmor2JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ84s2uzZ1w09:01
brobostigonmorning boys and girls09:03
foobarrySupport for Google’s Widevine CDM on Windows and Mac OS X so streaming services like Amazon Video can switch from Silverlight to encrypted HTML5 video.10:41
foobarryno firefox love for linux?10:41
foobarryor already works?10:41
zmoylan-pithey're asking for linux users to write better torrenting options10:44
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)10:53
davmor2morning bigcalm10:53
bigcalmHow's yam?10:53
knightwise²morning peeps11:04
SwitchesHey knightwise11:06
DJonesDoes anybody use any method of accessing MS onedrive on ubuntu, I see there was an unofficial client on github, just wondered if anybody knew of anything that works12:15
SwitchesIf its http://skilion.github.io/onedrive/ I've used it and it's been pretty good12:17
DJonesThe one I'd read about was http://askubuntu.com/questions/676210/how-to-sync-onedrive-on-ubuntu-14-0412:18
brobostigoni do believe there is an option in gnome's account syncing too.12:18
Switchesgnome can do it like it does with google I think, although if the google one is anything to go by it's not worth the hassle lol12:19
zmoylan-piwont you just worry that ms will do an update and stop it working at any point they feel like it?12:19
DJoneszmoylan-pi: Or cancel it as with UbuntuOne12:19
zmoylan-piyeah12:20
SwitchesWell it's less likely to be canceled like Uone was12:20
brobostigonthis is why i have owncloud, :)12:20
zmoylan-pibut more likely to randomly update and block linux12:20
DJonesIt was just something I was thinking of for storage/backups, given I've got 1.2Tb of storage space on onedrive12:20
SwitchesIt's also less likely to change much.. I mean very few of the MS APIs change for years, they just get small tweaks fo the most part lol12:20
zmoylan-piunless is feeling evil... see skype12:21
DJonesSwitches: Does that one you mentioned auto run at boot, or do you have to start a daemon manually12:21
SwitchesYou can do it either way12:22
DJonesInteresting, might have a look at that then12:22
SwitchesI have it set with systemd on one machine the other i do it manually12:22
SwitchesI did use the one you linked, but that led to some weird logging issues, which made me switch to the other one12:22
SwitchesLike a 968MB systemlog :p12:23
DJonesOuch12:25
diddledanweird. a traceroute doesn't seem to be working for me on win10 using bt-infinity via a homehub512:25
SwitchesYeah think thats more journalds fault though than the little onedrive program12:25
diplodiddledan: over wireless ? having loads of issues with my g/fs Homehub, smart setting was enabled causing loads of issues12:30
diddledannope, wired12:30
diddledanevery hop timesout except the endpoint12:30
diploThat's odd :/ but it is BT12:31
diddledanspeaking of win10 I just spotted a new service added in recent insider builds that they haven't told us about: SSH Server Proxy and SSH Server Broker12:39
diddledanboth of them have a description of "Part of Microsoft SSH Server for Windows"12:40
zmoylan-pithey're automating the backdoors into windows. a real time saver :-P12:40
zmoylan-pino more phone calls with people trying to get you connecting via teamviewer...12:41
diddledanand yes it does respond and give you a cmd.exe prompt when you login using a windows-user12:41
diddledanwell you don't need to _try_ to get folk connecting via teamviewer anymore.. they'll do it without your knowledge now12:42
zmoylan-piisn't progress wonderful... :-P12:42
* DJones wonders whether to connect to a neighbours open printer and send a 1000 age document to it12:54
zmoylan-pia mate did send a please secure your publically available printer notice to a neighbour...12:55
DJonesHeh, that sounds a good idea12:55
zmoylan-pidepending on what country you are in it's either bad or incredibly illegal12:56
zmoylan-piuk is drifting towards stupidly illegal territory12:56
diploI've knocked on neighbours doors before13:01
diddledanI tried knocking-up a neighbour but just got a slap instead13:03
DJonesInterestingly, it only shows up in Windows add printer, but not in Ubuntu's add printer13:03
diddledan</norty>13:03
TwistedLucidityzmoylan-pi: It's open, it's clearly an invite13:19
TwistedLucidityDJones: To the Wireshark!13:20
diddledanI hate that there's the potential for prosecution for connecting to an open network without prior permission13:22
diddledansurely being open is permission enough13:22
TwistedLucidityAgreed.13:22
TwistedLucidityIf it's open, it's clearly meant as a public resource. No other possible interpretation13:23
TwistedLucidityLike the people who have two dog bowls by their driveway on one of our walking routes - community service. I wouldn't expect to get jailed for "Use of a dog bowl without consent"13:24
TwistedLucidityObviously my dogs would be using it, not me directly.13:24
diddledanwtf? windows 7 is 9 years old. that information just gave me a panic attack about my own age13:38
davmor2diddledan: wot, zx81 is 35 years old. that information just gave me a panic attack about my own age ;)13:41
diddledanapparently there are folk eligible to vote in the us election that don't remember 9/11 due to age13:42
diddledanas in they are young enough to not remember, not that they're ancient13:43
diddledan!politics13:43
lubotu3Please take political discussion to ##politics-uk. Thank you!13:43
TwistedLucidity!subject13:43
TwistedLucidityHah, that was funny13:43
diddledan9/11?13:44
TwistedLucidityNo, what happens when lubotu3 doesn't know what comes after the !13:45
diddledan!bang he shot me down !bang I hit the ground13:45
lubotu3diddledan: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:45
TwistedLucidityI got a private message13:45
diddledan:-p13:45
diddledanI'm speshul13:45
diddledansummer is here - first daytime use of the fan14:09
slickdaytime use of the fan. Makes me wonder about the use of the fan at night. All the uses that go one when no one is about.15:55
MyrttiI was tempted to put ours on the windowsill to make it nominally more possible that there'd be a draft from one end of the house to the other15:57
TwistedLuciditySoon we'll have tinted windows that generate power from solar.15:58
slickEveryone now please hum the 007 theme. Imagine using a fan to break into a safe of a security van containing a faberge egg.15:58
TwistedLucidityJust don't use your own car as a getaway vehicle15:59
brobostigonok, question, why does my bthub show up twice in ubuntu touch's wifi config?16:20
Seeker`5GHz and 2.4GHz?16:31
brobostigonthats my thought, and that might be why its having trouble connecting to it, the problem i described yesterday.16:32
brobostigoncan i specify in touch, to only use a certain frequency?16:32
brobostigonnmcli to the rescue. :)16:37
Myrttior what we do, we've named the AP's differently16:44
brobostigonah, good idea.16:55
* brobostigon makes a note, 16:56
tafb2 can anyone help me install ddrescue-gui on ubuntu 16.04? I'm having real troubles :(18:44
popeythere's a gui for ddrescue?18:45
tafb2yep, it's freakin amazing18:45
popeyWow, love the developer's name - Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty18:46
popeylet me see...18:46
loptapopey! You were in my ears this morning.18:46
popeyuhoh18:46
tafb2i had gddrescue on here before but had a hard drive fail so fresh installed 16.04, installed GDebi package manager, install the .deb for 16.04, says "complete" but I can't find ddrescue-gui anywhere on the hard drive, no icon in apps, etc :(18:47
davmor2lopta: you should maybe not admit to stalking popey on a public channel ;)18:47
popeyok, just installed it tafb218:47
tafb2on 16.04?18:47
loptadavmor2: Does listening to the podcast count as stalking?18:47
popeyyes18:47
loptaAh, I shall desist immediately then. ;-)18:48
popeytafb2: open a terminal and run this:- /usr/share/ddrescue-gui/DDRescue-GUI.py18:48
popeywhat happens?18:48
tafb2ok, 1 sec.18:48
popeyit shows up in the dash for me18:48
tafb2running that command in terminal worked :)18:49
popeyhttp://imgur.com/EYQziUL18:49
popey^ shows up here18:49
popeythanks, I'd never heard of this. neato18:49
tafb2i checked, not there for me :(18:49
tafb2how do I make a shortcut/icon to that .py file?18:50
popeyyou shouldn't need to18:52
popeydoes /usr/share/applications/ddrescue-gui.desktop exist18:52
popeymaybe logout and log back in and it will appear18:52
tafb2yep  /usr/share/applications/ddrescue-gui.desktop exists!18:53
tafb2i'll try a logout18:53
tafb2logout and log back in worked, THANKS!18:55
tafb2now to recover my data :( *crosses fingers&18:55
SwitchesThat could be interesting http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Firefox-48-Electrolysis19:00
popeytafb2: yay19:15
ali1234i've been using FF developer editions for ages... E10S is still really buggy...19:27
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velushello all a strange request but is there anyone that can do a copy of the ubuntu 16.04 and send it to me please i put on arch linux on my main system having problems with it and lost my ubuntu disk soewhere20:07
loptavelus: You can download the ISO from the Web site, I think.20:11
lopta...or do you need it sent to you on a disc?20:12
zmoylan-pimight be quicker finding a newsagents with a cover disc with linux on it...20:14
velusi need it sent on a disk my main pc which has the dvd birner on it is broke and needs reinstalling, so i canty do it my self.20:16
velusi did have one i donwloaded but i lost the disk somehwere20:16
zmoylan-piyou can download it and put it on a usb drive20:17
loptaI miss newsagents.20:17
velusmy pc wont boot from usb i have tried that already20:18
zmoylan-pishould be able to change the boot priority in bios so that it can boot from usb20:19
velusit dont have an option for usb or even removable drive20:20
diddledanif your pc can't boot from USB I would suggest that it might be too ancient to be a useful pc :-)20:20
zmoylan-pii've seen bios that only lists the removeable drive when there is a removeable drive plugged in20:20
diddledanzmoylan-pi: mine does that20:21
velusits not that ancient to be honest, i think it might be the bios to be honest the pc is pretty good better than the laptop20:21
zmoylan-piit's annoying, isn't it?20:21
brobostigoncant grub be configured to boot from usb even when the bios doesnt directly support it?20:21
diddledanit has an option for USB-HDD but it does nothing. instead I have to insert the disk/stick and select it from the list of drives after (an additional item appears with the filesystem's name)20:21
* zmoylan-pi casts ward confusion at mention of grub... :-)20:21
diddledanbrobostigon: I believe so, yes20:21
brobostigondiddledan: :)20:22
diddledanare images broken on twitter right now?20:23
zmoylan-pinope20:24
zmoylan-pii've just had a few images put up and they are been liked20:25
Switchesdiddledan broked the interwebz!20:25
zmoylan-pihttps://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/740631443408314368/photo/120:25
zmoylan-pididdledan typed bing into bing?20:25
diddledanzmoylan-pi:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/NfC43nhb/20:26
* diddledan double-checks there were no porn tabs on that screenie20:26
* zmoylan-pi keeps fork handy in case i have to poke my own eyes out...20:27
diddledanis it just me, or has development speed increased on ubuntu? - e.g. the regular 6-weekly OTA for the touch platform, and now snapd getting weekly releases20:30
diddledanpopey: are you breaking the speedlimit over there in canonicalland?20:30
popeyi do hope so20:39
diddledanwtf? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-kY2WWWEyQ20:40
diddledanpopey: yey20:40
zmoylan-piwith windows phone tanking and blackberry now just another android shop it's our best hope for a 3rd phone os...20:42
diddledanzmoylan-pi: ubuntu touch is codenamed the babylon project (in my dreams) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtrUhIuEqdY20:43
diddledanour last best hope20:44
* zmoylan-pi loves b5... https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/74030344855447552020:44
diddledanha20:45
diddledanbtw, it seems twats' images are working again20:45
zmoylan-pithe concept of the war between the vorlons and the shadows was brilliant20:45
diddledanI truly felt the galactic scale and importance of it all when I watched it end-to-end20:46
diddledanit was a well-planned and executed story20:47
diddledaneverything intertwined20:47
zmoylan-piit changed sci fi forever.  it's why ds9 is so good as that was the trek universes version of b520:47
diddledanaye20:47
diddledanI really need to take a week and watch ds9 end-to-end20:48
zmoylan-piup till then sci fi was episodic.  no major changes between episodes.  after b5 they all that a story book arc for the entire run of all seasons20:48
diddledanxfiles was another milestone in having a monster-of-the-week but also a long-runnning story arc20:49
zmoylan-pii think i prefer ds9 over b5 but that's more that trek is a much bigger established universe whereass b5 was a little rough and ready as it was an all new team doing sci fi with unknown actors20:49
diddledanin recent times very little has beaten the remade BSG20:50
diddledanheroes was pretty decent tho20:51
zmoylan-pii watched a few episodes of that but never got into it.  which considering i loved ds9 which was ron moore as was bsg is odd20:51
diddledanmight be a toss-up between heroes and BSG20:51
diddledanoh I lurved BSG20:51
zmoylan-piyeah a lot did but i think it was that i will always remember the crappy 70s version first20:52
diddledanlol20:52
diddledanyeah I'm a little young to properly remember the original - I was an early-80s birth20:52
zmoylan-pithat and buck rogers with the obligatory moon princess in shiny tight space suits in a disco setting...20:53
zmoylan-piboy did sci fi suck back then20:53
diddledanlol, buck rogers was a straight rip-off from the original BSG20:53
loptadiddledan: Wasn't Buck Rogers around as a b&w series (and radio series) long before BSG was written?20:54
zmoylan-piso it was either buck rogers, battle star galactica, blake 7 or doctor who...20:55
loptaAugust 1928, apparently.20:55
zmoylan-pithere was a 30s buck rogers i think20:55
diddledanlopta: wow20:55
diddledanI wasn't aware20:55
loptaI vaguely remember some b&w films...20:55
zmoylan-piwent with flash gordon era serials... probably had the same rubber frilled lizards chasing space ships with sparklers attached...20:55
loptaOh wait, I'm thinking of Flash Gordon.20:55
zmoylan-pii'm sure there was a buck rogers serial as well20:56
diddledanI'm a naive youngen :-p20:56
loptaHah... Buck Rogers' name was Anthony.20:56
zmoylan-pi1939 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_Rogers_%28serial%2920:56
diddledan12 amazing thrill thonged chapters20:57
zmoylan-pirunning time 237 minutes... that sold a lot of popcorn20:58
diddledan4 hours20:58
diddledanabout one lord-of-the-rings20:58
zmoylan-pii've seen most of the flash gordons.  bbc2 used to run them in 80s for cheap tv.  so bad they were... bad...20:58
zmoylan-pinot a patch on 80s flash gordon with queen soundtrack20:59
loptaI want to see the 1933 short.20:59
zmoylan-pivery hard to find, very expensive to purchase iirc20:59
diddledanI love that the scale of good to bad goes something like "amazing -> awful -> good -> terrible"20:59
diddledanblessed brian wins for shear gravitas in that movie21:00
zmoylan-pihmmm it was edited into short film planet outlaws... i think i have that on dvd...21:00
diddledansheer?21:00
zmoylan-pidid you see his costume... shear was right :-P21:00
diddledanlol21:01
zmoylan-pisome poor alpaca freezing its knackers off while that film was been made...21:01
lopta"COME ON FLASH!"21:01
diddledansomething about brass monkeys21:01
zmoylan-piit's just a great flippin film. great plot, great sound track, great silliness21:02
* lopta wonders what to feed the children.21:03
diddledanyou forgot the "to". "what to feed the children to"21:03
* zmoylan-pi passes around the generic aldi penguins bars... seal bars...21:03
zmoylan-pimind i did like sky captain and the world of tomorrow knock off made a few years back21:05
diddledanapparently aes256 is weaker than supposed: http://yournewswire.com/encryption-security-may-not-be-secure-anymore/21:07
zmoylan-piyou can probably crack it on a pi-zero super computer cluster for about uk£100 :-P21:08
loptaI'm supposed to build a cluster but I probably won't use the Pi Zero21:09
zmoylan-pi...if you can find that many pi zero of course...21:09
lopta...because it doesn't have Ethernet built in.21:09
diddledanwhat's going on in the desert? http://www.iflscience.com/technology/mysterious-tests-will-scramble-gps-signals-on-americas-west-coast-this-month/21:45
zmoylan-pithey're throwing off dominos automated navigation so that they get free pizza when it's late :-P21:54
diddledanI wonder if that's a throttling issue - one of my pcs is downloading the new windows insider build from today but the other one can't see that it's available23:53
diddledanwhen is daftykins returning from that spain?23:54
* diddledan disappearing off to that Wales on Friday23:54
diddledansupposedly they have internets so I might be able to pop-in23:55
zmoylan-pii hope he got some sleep before having to head off at that early hour23:58
zmoylan-piof course all the ip packets in wales have to be weather proofed for the weather and been exposed to all that close harmony singing23:59

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