[05:49] <mapps> hola
[06:54] <diplo> Morning all :)
[08:32] <davmor2> morning all
[08:37] <bittin> morning
[08:42] <SuperMatt> g'day
[08:43] <SuperMatt> can someone hilight me please?
[08:44] <TwistedLucidity> Highlight you?
[08:45] <bittin> SuperMatt
[08:48] <davmor2> SuperMatt: no
[08:51] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Wednesday, and happy World Oceans Day! 😃  http://www.worldoceansday.org/
[08:52] <SuperMatt> thanks guys
[09:01] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ84s2uzZ1w
[09:03] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls
[10:41] <foobarry> Support for Google’s Widevine CDM on Windows and Mac OS X so streaming services like Amazon Video can switch from Silverlight to encrypted HTML5 video.
[10:41] <foobarry> no firefox love for linux?
[10:41] <foobarry> or already works?
[10:44] <zmoylan-pi> they're asking for linux users to write better torrenting options
[10:53] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:53] <davmor2> morning bigcalm
[10:53] <bigcalm> How's yam?
[11:04] <knightwise> ²morning peeps
[11:06] <Switches> Hey knightwise
[12:15] <DJones> Does anybody use any method of accessing MS onedrive on ubuntu, I see there was an unofficial client on github, just wondered if anybody knew of anything that works
[12:17] <Switches> If its http://skilion.github.io/onedrive/ I've used it and it's been pretty good
[12:18] <DJones> The one I'd read about was http://askubuntu.com/questions/676210/how-to-sync-onedrive-on-ubuntu-14-04
[12:18] <brobostigon> i do believe there is an option in gnome's account syncing too.
[12:19] <Switches> gnome can do it like it does with google I think, although if the google one is anything to go by it's not worth the hassle lol
[12:19] <zmoylan-pi> wont you just worry that ms will do an update and stop it working at any point they feel like it?
[12:19] <DJones> zmoylan-pi: Or cancel it as with UbuntuOne
[12:20] <zmoylan-pi> yeah
[12:20] <Switches> Well it's less likely to be canceled like Uone was
[12:20] <brobostigon> this is why i have owncloud, :)
[12:20] <zmoylan-pi> but more likely to randomly update and block linux
[12:20] <DJones> It was just something I was thinking of for storage/backups, given I've got 1.2Tb of storage space on onedrive
[12:20] <Switches> It's also less likely to change much.. I mean very few of the MS APIs change for years, they just get small tweaks fo the most part lol
[12:21] <zmoylan-pi> unless is feeling evil... see skype
[12:21] <DJones> Switches: Does that one you mentioned auto run at boot, or do you have to start a daemon manually
[12:22] <Switches> You can do it either way
[12:22] <DJones> Interesting, might have a look at that then
[12:22] <Switches> I have it set with systemd on one machine the other i do it manually
[12:22] <Switches> I did use the one you linked, but that led to some weird logging issues, which made me switch to the other one
[12:23] <Switches> Like a 968MB systemlog :p
[12:25] <DJones> Ouch
[12:25] <diddledan> weird. a traceroute doesn't seem to be working for me on win10 using bt-infinity via a homehub5
[12:25] <Switches> Yeah think thats more journalds fault though than the little onedrive program
[12:30] <diplo> diddledan: over wireless ? having loads of issues with my g/fs Homehub, smart setting was enabled causing loads of issues
[12:30] <diddledan> nope, wired
[12:30] <diddledan> every hop timesout except the endpoint
[12:31] <diplo> That's odd :/ but it is BT
[12:39] <diddledan> speaking of win10 I just spotted a new service added in recent insider builds that they haven't told us about: SSH Server Proxy and SSH Server Broker
[12:40] <diddledan> both of them have a description of "Part of Microsoft SSH Server for Windows"
[12:40] <zmoylan-pi> they're automating the backdoors into windows. a real time saver :-P
[12:41] <zmoylan-pi> no more phone calls with people trying to get you connecting via teamviewer...
[12:41] <diddledan> and yes it does respond and give you a cmd.exe prompt when you login using a windows-user
[12:42] <diddledan> well you don't need to _try_ to get folk connecting via teamviewer anymore.. they'll do it without your knowledge now
[12:42] <zmoylan-pi> isn't progress wonderful... :-P
[12:54]  * DJones wonders whether to connect to a neighbours open printer and send a 1000 age document to it
[12:55] <zmoylan-pi> a mate did send a please secure your publically available printer notice to a neighbour...
[12:55] <DJones> Heh, that sounds a good idea
[12:56] <zmoylan-pi> depending on what country you are in it's either bad or incredibly illegal
[12:56] <zmoylan-pi> uk is drifting towards stupidly illegal territory
[13:01] <diplo> I've knocked on neighbours doors before
[13:03] <diddledan> I tried knocking-up a neighbour but just got a slap instead
[13:03] <DJones> Interestingly, it only shows up in Windows add printer, but not in Ubuntu's add printer
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[13:19] <TwistedLucidity> zmoylan-pi: It's open, it's clearly an invite
[13:20] <TwistedLucidity> DJones: To the Wireshark!
[13:22] <diddledan> I hate that there's the potential for prosecution for connecting to an open network without prior permission
[13:22] <diddledan> surely being open is permission enough
[13:22] <TwistedLucidity> Agreed.
[13:23] <TwistedLucidity> If it's open, it's clearly meant as a public resource. No other possible interpretation
[13:24] <TwistedLucidity> Like the people who have two dog bowls by their driveway on one of our walking routes - community service. I wouldn't expect to get jailed for "Use of a dog bowl without consent"
[13:24] <TwistedLucidity> Obviously my dogs would be using it, not me directly.
[13:38] <diddledan> wtf? windows 7 is 9 years old. that information just gave me a panic attack about my own age
[13:41] <davmor2> diddledan: wot, zx81 is 35 years old. that information just gave me a panic attack about my own age ;)
[13:42] <diddledan> apparently there are folk eligible to vote in the us election that don't remember 9/11 due to age
[13:43] <diddledan> as in they are young enough to not remember, not that they're ancient
[13:43] <diddledan> !politics
[13:43] <TwistedLucidity> !subject
[13:43] <TwistedLucidity> Hah, that was funny
[13:44] <diddledan> 9/11?
[13:45] <TwistedLucidity> No, what happens when lubotu3 doesn't know what comes after the !
[13:45] <diddledan> !bang he shot me down !bang I hit the ground
[13:45] <TwistedLucidity> I got a private message
[13:45] <diddledan> :-p
[13:45] <diddledan> I'm speshul
[14:09] <diddledan> summer is here - first daytime use of the fan
[15:55] <slick> daytime use of the fan. Makes me wonder about the use of the fan at night. All the uses that go one when no one is about.
[15:57] <Myrtti> I was tempted to put ours on the windowsill to make it nominally more possible that there'd be a draft from one end of the house to the other
[15:58] <TwistedLucidity> Soon we'll have tinted windows that generate power from solar.
[15:58] <slick> Everyone now please hum the 007 theme. Imagine using a fan to break into a safe of a security van containing a faberge egg.
[15:59] <TwistedLucidity> Just don't use your own car as a getaway vehicle
[16:20] <brobostigon> ok, question, why does my bthub show up twice in ubuntu touch's wifi config?
[16:31] <Seeker`> 5GHz and 2.4GHz?
[16:32] <brobostigon> thats my thought, and that might be why its having trouble connecting to it, the problem i described yesterday.
[16:32] <brobostigon> can i specify in touch, to only use a certain frequency?
[16:37] <brobostigon> nmcli to the rescue. :)
[16:44] <Myrtti> or what we do, we've named the AP's differently
[16:55] <brobostigon> ah, good idea.
[16:56]  * brobostigon makes a note, 
[18:44] <tafb2>  can anyone help me install ddrescue-gui on ubuntu 16.04? I'm having real troubles :(
[18:45] <popey> there's a gui for ddrescue?
[18:45] <tafb2> yep, it's freakin amazing
[18:46] <popey> Wow, love the developer's name - Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty
[18:46] <popey> let me see...
[18:46] <lopta> popey! You were in my ears this morning.
[18:46] <popey> uhoh
[18:47] <tafb2> i had gddrescue on here before but had a hard drive fail so fresh installed 16.04, installed GDebi package manager, install the .deb for 16.04, says "complete" but I can't find ddrescue-gui anywhere on the hard drive, no icon in apps, etc :(
[18:47] <davmor2> lopta: you should maybe not admit to stalking popey on a public channel ;)
[18:47] <popey> ok, just installed it tafb2
[18:47] <tafb2> on 16.04?
[18:47] <lopta> davmor2: Does listening to the podcast count as stalking?
[18:47] <popey> yes
[18:48] <lopta> Ah, I shall desist immediately then. ;-)
[18:48] <popey> tafb2: open a terminal and run this:- /usr/share/ddrescue-gui/DDRescue-GUI.py
[18:48] <popey> what happens?
[18:48] <tafb2> ok, 1 sec.
[18:48] <popey> it shows up in the dash for me
[18:49] <tafb2> running that command in terminal worked :)
[18:49] <popey> http://imgur.com/EYQziUL
[18:49] <popey> ^ shows up here
[18:49] <popey> thanks, I'd never heard of this. neato
[18:49] <tafb2> i checked, not there for me :(
[18:50] <tafb2> how do I make a shortcut/icon to that .py file?
[18:52] <popey> you shouldn't need to
[18:52] <popey> does /usr/share/applications/ddrescue-gui.desktop exist
[18:52] <popey> maybe logout and log back in and it will appear
[18:53] <tafb2> yep  /usr/share/applications/ddrescue-gui.desktop exists!
[18:53] <tafb2> i'll try a logout
[18:55] <tafb2> logout and log back in worked, THANKS!
[18:55] <tafb2> now to recover my data :( *crosses fingers&
[19:00] <Switches> That could be interesting http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Firefox-48-Electrolysis
[19:15] <popey> tafb2: yay
[19:27] <ali1234> i've been using FF developer editions for ages... E10S is still really buggy...
[20:07] <velus> hello all a strange request but is there anyone that can do a copy of the ubuntu 16.04 and send it to me please i put on arch linux on my main system having problems with it and lost my ubuntu disk soewhere
[20:11] <lopta> velus: You can download the ISO from the Web site, I think.
[20:12] <lopta> ...or do you need it sent to you on a disc?
[20:14] <zmoylan-pi> might be quicker finding a newsagents with a cover disc with linux on it...
[20:16] <velus> i need it sent on a disk my main pc which has the dvd birner on it is broke and needs reinstalling, so i canty do it my self.
[20:16] <velus> i did have one i donwloaded but i lost the disk somehwere
[20:17] <zmoylan-pi> you can download it and put it on a usb drive
[20:17] <lopta> I miss newsagents.
[20:18] <velus> my pc wont boot from usb i have tried that already
[20:19] <zmoylan-pi> should be able to change the boot priority in bios so that it can boot from usb
[20:20] <velus> it dont have an option for usb or even removable drive
[20:20] <diddledan> if your pc can't boot from USB I would suggest that it might be too ancient to be a useful pc :-)
[20:20] <zmoylan-pi> i've seen bios that only lists the removeable drive when there is a removeable drive plugged in
[20:21] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: mine does that
[20:21] <velus> its not that ancient to be honest, i think it might be the bios to be honest the pc is pretty good better than the laptop
[20:21] <zmoylan-pi> it's annoying, isn't it?
[20:21] <brobostigon> cant grub be configured to boot from usb even when the bios doesnt directly support it?
[20:21] <diddledan> it has an option for USB-HDD but it does nothing. instead I have to insert the disk/stick and select it from the list of drives after (an additional item appears with the filesystem's name)
[20:21]  * zmoylan-pi casts ward confusion at mention of grub... :-)
[20:21] <diddledan> brobostigon: I believe so, yes
[20:22] <brobostigon> diddledan: :)
[20:23] <diddledan> are images broken on twitter right now?
[20:24] <zmoylan-pi> nope
[20:25] <zmoylan-pi> i've just had a few images put up and they are been liked
[20:25] <Switches> diddledan broked the interwebz!
[20:25] <zmoylan-pi> https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/740631443408314368/photo/1
[20:25] <zmoylan-pi> diddledan typed bing into bing?
[20:26] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/NfC43nhb/
[20:26]  * diddledan double-checks there were no porn tabs on that screenie
[20:27]  * zmoylan-pi keeps fork handy in case i have to poke my own eyes out...
[20:30] <diddledan> is it just me, or has development speed increased on ubuntu? - e.g. the regular 6-weekly OTA for the touch platform, and now snapd getting weekly releases
[20:30] <diddledan> popey: are you breaking the speedlimit over there in canonicalland?
[20:39] <popey> i do hope so
[20:40] <diddledan> wtf? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-kY2WWWEyQ
[20:40] <diddledan> popey: yey
[20:42] <zmoylan-pi> with windows phone tanking and blackberry now just another android shop it's our best hope for a 3rd phone os...
[20:43] <diddledan> zmoylan-pi: ubuntu touch is codenamed the babylon project (in my dreams) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtrUhIuEqdY
[20:44] <diddledan> our last best hope
[20:44]  * zmoylan-pi loves b5...  https://twitter.com/angryearthling/status/740303448554475520
[20:45] <diddledan> ha
[20:45] <diddledan> btw, it seems twats' images are working again
[20:45] <zmoylan-pi> the concept of the war between the vorlons and the shadows was brilliant
[20:46] <diddledan> I truly felt the galactic scale and importance of it all when I watched it end-to-end
[20:47] <diddledan> it was a well-planned and executed story
[20:47] <diddledan> everything intertwined
[20:47] <zmoylan-pi> it changed sci fi forever.  it's why ds9 is so good as that was the trek universes version of b5
[20:47] <diddledan> aye
[20:48] <diddledan> I really need to take a week and watch ds9 end-to-end
[20:48] <zmoylan-pi> up till then sci fi was episodic.  no major changes between episodes.  after b5 they all that a story book arc for the entire run of all seasons
[20:49] <diddledan> xfiles was another milestone in having a monster-of-the-week but also a long-runnning story arc
[20:49] <zmoylan-pi> i think i prefer ds9 over b5 but that's more that trek is a much bigger established universe whereass b5 was a little rough and ready as it was an all new team doing sci fi with unknown actors
[20:50] <diddledan> in recent times very little has beaten the remade BSG
[20:51] <diddledan> heroes was pretty decent tho
[20:51] <zmoylan-pi> i watched a few episodes of that but never got into it.  which considering i loved ds9 which was ron moore as was bsg is odd
[20:51] <diddledan> might be a toss-up between heroes and BSG
[20:51] <diddledan> oh I lurved BSG
[20:52] <zmoylan-pi> yeah a lot did but i think it was that i will always remember the crappy 70s version first
[20:52] <diddledan> lol
[20:52] <diddledan> yeah I'm a little young to properly remember the original - I was an early-80s birth
[20:53] <zmoylan-pi> that and buck rogers with the obligatory moon princess in shiny tight space suits in a disco setting...
[20:53] <zmoylan-pi> boy did sci fi suck back then
[20:53] <diddledan> lol, buck rogers was a straight rip-off from the original BSG
[20:54] <lopta> diddledan: Wasn't Buck Rogers around as a b&w series (and radio series) long before BSG was written?
[20:55] <zmoylan-pi> so it was either buck rogers, battle star galactica, blake 7 or doctor who...
[20:55] <lopta> August 1928, apparently.
[20:55] <zmoylan-pi> there was a 30s buck rogers i think
[20:55] <diddledan> lopta: wow
[20:55] <diddledan> I wasn't aware
[20:55] <lopta> I vaguely remember some b&w films...
[20:55] <zmoylan-pi> went with flash gordon era serials... probably had the same rubber frilled lizards chasing space ships with sparklers attached...
[20:55] <lopta> Oh wait, I'm thinking of Flash Gordon.
[20:56] <zmoylan-pi> i'm sure there was a buck rogers serial as well
[20:56] <diddledan> I'm a naive youngen :-p
[20:56] <lopta> Hah... Buck Rogers' name was Anthony.
[20:56] <zmoylan-pi> 1939 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_Rogers_%28serial%29
[20:57] <diddledan> 12 amazing thrill thonged chapters
[20:58] <zmoylan-pi> running time 237 minutes... that sold a lot of popcorn
[20:58] <diddledan> 4 hours
[20:58] <diddledan> about one lord-of-the-rings
[20:58] <zmoylan-pi> i've seen most of the flash gordons.  bbc2 used to run them in 80s for cheap tv.  so bad they were... bad...
[20:59] <zmoylan-pi> not a patch on 80s flash gordon with queen soundtrack
[20:59] <lopta> I want to see the 1933 short.
[20:59] <zmoylan-pi> very hard to find, very expensive to purchase iirc
[20:59] <diddledan> I love that the scale of good to bad goes something like "amazing -> awful -> good -> terrible"
[21:00] <diddledan> blessed brian wins for shear gravitas in that movie
[21:00] <zmoylan-pi> hmmm it was edited into short film planet outlaws... i think i have that on dvd...
[21:00] <diddledan> sheer?
[21:00] <zmoylan-pi> did you see his costume... shear was right :-P
[21:01] <diddledan> lol
[21:01] <zmoylan-pi> some poor alpaca freezing its knackers off while that film was been made...
[21:01] <lopta> "COME ON FLASH!"
[21:01] <diddledan> something about brass monkeys
[21:02] <zmoylan-pi> it's just a great flippin film. great plot, great sound track, great silliness
[21:03]  * lopta wonders what to feed the children.
[21:03] <diddledan> you forgot the "to". "what to feed the children to"
[21:03]  * zmoylan-pi passes around the generic aldi penguins bars... seal bars...
[21:05] <zmoylan-pi> mind i did like sky captain and the world of tomorrow knock off made a few years back
[21:07] <diddledan> apparently aes256 is weaker than supposed: http://yournewswire.com/encryption-security-may-not-be-secure-anymore/
[21:08] <zmoylan-pi> you can probably crack it on a pi-zero super computer cluster for about uk£100 :-P
[21:09] <lopta> I'm supposed to build a cluster but I probably won't use the Pi Zero
[21:09] <zmoylan-pi> ...if you can find that many pi zero of course...
[21:09] <lopta> ...because it doesn't have Ethernet built in.
[21:45] <diddledan> what's going on in the desert? http://www.iflscience.com/technology/mysterious-tests-will-scramble-gps-signals-on-americas-west-coast-this-month/
[21:54] <zmoylan-pi> they're throwing off dominos automated navigation so that they get free pizza when it's late :-P
[23:53] <diddledan> I wonder if that's a throttling issue - one of my pcs is downloading the new windows insider build from today but the other one can't see that it's available
[23:54] <diddledan> when is daftykins returning from that spain?
[23:54]  * diddledan disappearing off to that Wales on Friday
[23:55] <diddledan> supposedly they have internets so I might be able to pop-in
[23:58] <zmoylan-pi> i hope he got some sleep before having to head off at that early hour
[23:59] <zmoylan-pi> of course all the ip packets in wales have to be weather proofed for the weather and been exposed to all that close harmony singing