| yofel | sgclark, clivejo: existing binares in a NEW source are actually not binary NEW. They're still problematic as the autohinter can't detect that and will keep krita in proposed until you tell the release team to set a manual transition hint for them - which also requires the krita binaries to be gone from their previous source | 07:51 |
|---|---|---|
| soee_ | Qt 5.6.1 Now Available | 10:19 |
| soee_ | ooo: KDE Neon User Edition 5.6 Released | 10:19 |
| acheron_uk | tempting to try | 10:22 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Anyone know why my nvidia driver won't load today? | 10:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> On yakkety | 10:29 |
| soee_ | any errors? | 10:33 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Subprocess old preremoval script returned error status 5 | 10:40 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Would someone ping mamarley for me | 10:42 |
| acheron_uk | That's the error I had the other day. you need to hack the prerm script from the package it's trying to replace | 10:42 |
| mamarley | pong | 10:42 |
| acheron_uk | voila | 10:43 |
| mamarley | Oh, that. Yeah, sorry. Edit the prerm script and try uninstalling again. | 10:43 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Do you have a fixed package I can install | 10:43 |
| mamarley | There was a buggy patch that got uploaded in the NVIDIA drivers for the main repository, so I backported it to the graphics-drivers PPA too, but reverted it after I saw what carnage it had caused. | 10:44 |
| acheron_uk | LP: 1589006 | 10:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1589006 in snapd (Ubuntu) "Failed unmounting Mount unit for nvidia support in snappy" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1589006 | 10:44 |
| mamarley | Clifford: Which driver series are you running? | 10:44 |
| mamarley | If it is 364 or 367, just install the latest from the graphics-drivers PPA. If it is 340 from the main archive, you will need to manually install the previous version. | 10:45 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> 340 | 10:45 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> I thought the whole idea of proposed and testing was that these types of problems don't get into the archive? | 10:47 |
| acheron_uk | no system is perfect | 10:48 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Can someone find me a URL for nvidia-340_340 and nvidia-opencl-icd-340_340 please | 10:49 |
| acheron_uk | YY? | 10:50 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Versions in cache are the new broken ones | 10:50 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Yes yy | 10:50 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Amd64 | 10:50 |
| soee | https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/9758907 | 10:51 |
| clivejo | for krita to be gone from the previous source we have to wait on calligra? | 11:08 |
| clivejo | yofel: ^ | 11:08 |
| clivejo | and even calligra is broken in yakkety | 11:09 |
| clivejo | !info calligra | 11:10 |
| ubottu | calligra (source: calligra): extensive productivity and creative suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.9.7-0ubuntu13 (yakkety), package size 9 kB, installed size 65 kB | 11:10 |
| yofel | clivejo: you could remove the binary packages from the control file.. | 11:10 |
| yofel | any conflicting files need to be removed anyway and need appropriate breaks/replaces | 11:11 |
| clivejo | I dunno what to do, Ive tried to package calligra but its never been updated in the archive | 11:11 |
| clivejo | currently calligra is broken due to a typo in fonts | 11:12 |
| yofel | yes, because it got thrown out of the packageset after we stopped shipping it | 11:12 |
| clivejo | thrown out? | 11:12 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:12 |
| clivejo | hi BluesKaj | 11:13 |
| BluesKaj | Hi clivejo | 11:13 |
| yofel | clivejo: packageset is generated by our seeds. As we stopped shipping it, our upload permissions got revoked. And that didn't get fixed in time for xenial | 11:17 |
| clivejo | lovely | 11:17 |
| clivejo | even more tieing our hands behind our backs | 11:18 |
| === acheron_uk is now known as acheronuk | ||
| * clivejo didnt sleep well and is very grumpy | 11:19 | |
| BluesKaj | < ditto | 11:21 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: working on anything? | 11:24 |
| acheronuk | not really | 11:24 |
| acheronuk | apart from lunch very shortly ;) | 11:25 |
| clivejo | would you investigate the lintian error in kactivities-kf5 symbols-file-contains-current-version-with-debian-revision | 11:27 |
| acheronuk | Ok. once I'm 'lunched', yes | 11:29 |
| clivejo | is it just me or is LP throwing lots of temporarily unavailable errors recently? | 11:29 |
| * clivejo throws in the towel | 11:32 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <Sick_Rimmit> /me puts the kettle on for clivejo | 11:33 |
| clivejo | it knocks off approxiamately 20 packages a day by doing that, and Im sick of fighting with it | 11:36 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Sick_Rimmit> Can this issue be escallated, to someone at LP | 11:37 |
| clivejo | when I mentioned it before they said LP is under high load | 11:40 |
| clivejo | mostly due to KCI | 11:48 |
| shadeslayer | it's under high load due to KCI? really? | 11:49 |
| shadeslayer | That's hilarious, when you take into account the fact that I can push 400 MB files into launchpad bzr repos :P | 11:49 |
| acheronuk | so rather than launchpad, it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVSZdsAq4Bo | 12:15 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: kactivities done I hope. merge proposed. seems ok on both archs in pbuilder anyway | 13:37 |
| jimarvan | hey ya | 13:52 |
| clivejo | hi jimarvan | 13:53 |
| acheronuk | hi jimarvan :) | 13:56 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: did you get anywhere on installing those man pages? | 14:03 |
| clivejo | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/264317102/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.kconfigwidgets_5.23.0+p16.10+git20160609.1211-0_BUILDING.txt.gz | 14:03 |
| clivejo | debian/tmp/usr/share/man/ca/man1/preparetips5.1: No such file or directory at /usr/bin/dh_installman line 131. | 14:04 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: https://code.launchpad.net/~acheron/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kconfigwidgets/+merge/296916 | 14:04 |
| yofel | regarding manpages in not-installed: That's because dh_installman always compresses them, which adds a .gz suffix (IIRC), which in turn causes dh_install --list-missing to detect false-positives because the filenames in tmp and binary don't match anymore | 14:07 |
| clivejo | yofel: can you review that merge? | 14:07 |
| clivejo | I really dont understand whats going on with those man pages | 14:08 |
| * acheronuk goes to see if they did actually install in initial 5.23 version | 14:08 | |
| yofel | yeah, as I just said, they misbehave a bit which is annoying | 14:08 |
| clivejo | can I purge KCI queue? | 14:09 |
| clivejo | really no point it wasting time building packages with broken dep trees | 14:10 |
| yofel | feel free to | 14:10 |
| yofel | who wants to set up our own build system? ^^ | 14:10 |
| clivejo | I would if I knew how! | 14:10 |
| clivejo | purged | 14:11 |
| yofel | well, it's not like it's not doable, you would either copy what neon has or go with something like debile+reprepro/aptly | 14:11 |
| yofel | server resources is the issue really. Though I could cover some of that | 14:11 |
| acheronuk | well, those man pages did not install in .gz or not in any ppa build yet. so not false +ve there as far as I can see | 14:11 |
| yofel | even in the .deb itself? | 14:12 |
| acheronuk | but I get the point | 14:12 |
| acheronuk | nope. just checked | 14:12 |
| yofel | hm... | 14:12 |
| yofel | okay, interesting | 14:12 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: why are they listed in not-installed? | 14:12 |
| clivejo | could that be why they arent being installed into libkf5configwidgets-data | 14:13 |
| acheronuk | I tried a ppa build removing that, and it didn't work | 14:14 |
| * clivejo notices kdelibs4support doesnt have a *.manpage file | 14:14 | |
| acheronuk | exactly | 14:15 |
| yofel | the manpages file is usually meant for manually created manpages that are shipped with the packaging | 14:16 |
| yofel | (see policy) | 14:16 |
| clivejo | should we remove that file and install them manual via libkf5configwidgets-data.install | 14:17 |
| acheronuk | that is basically what I did, copying https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kdelibs4support/tree/debian?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive | 14:18 |
| acheronuk | and it worked http://i.imgur.com/Oyi7rdA.png | 14:20 |
| acheronuk | <yofel> the manpages file is usually meant for manually created manpages that are shipped with the packaging | 14:21 |
| acheronuk | ahhhh ^ | 14:22 |
| yofel | actually, not only, also for packages where they don't get auto-installed | 14:22 |
| yofel | https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dother.en.html#manpage FF | 14:22 |
| yofel | specifically 5.16 | 14:23 |
| acheronuk | read it, but with the way they put things I'm not always sure I read it with the meaning they intend | 14:24 |
| yofel | right, the maint guide is a bit short at times :/ | 14:25 |
| acheronuk | on the other hand you then learn by doing and mistakes, which for me are things that stick better longer term | 14:26 |
| acheronuk | although frustrating in the short term | 14:26 |
| yofel | true | 14:28 |
| clivejo | so what do you suggest we do in this situation? | 14:29 |
| acheronuk | kjsembed has exactly the same issue as far as I can see, so needs same solution whichever is best | 14:31 |
| yofel | what acheronuk did sounds right - I think | 14:31 |
| clivejo | forget about dhinstall man page and just install them manually? | 14:32 |
| acheronuk | it works (in pbuilder), and it's what whoever packaged kdelibs4support did as far as I can see | 14:32 |
| yofel | why install them manually? Cmake already does that, you just have to ship the installed file | 14:32 |
| yofel | *files | 14:32 |
| clivejo | we tried to install them via libkf5configwidgets-data.manpages | 14:33 |
| yofel | acheronuk: did you see my comment on the merge? | 14:33 |
| acheronuk | not yet | 14:33 |
| clivejo | but it doesnt seem to be handling the translations | 14:33 |
| yofel | clivejo: yes, that's for a different usecase | 14:33 |
| acheronuk | yofel: yes, I understand your comment. I shall give that a spin | 14:35 |
| yofel | thanks | 14:36 |
| acheronuk | so if that works I would update my local version with a new commit, push that to LP, and then propose a new merge? | 14:41 |
| yofel | it should update the existing merge as long as you push to the same location | 14:45 |
| acheronuk | didn't install it, and now I get a Lintian W: libkf5configwidgets-data: binary-without-english-manpage usr/bin/preparetips5 | 14:48 |
| sgclark | yofel: ah ook, I guess I really have no idea what we can and cannot upload haha. | 14:51 |
| clivejo | yofel: any idea why the symbol helper tag was removed in this commit - https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/knewstuff/commit/?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=cd4e744719ba287f6503fd1be4e4bd8f450981a0 | 14:51 |
| yofel | sgclark: well, the source matters for uploading, binaries not. Latter is more a review thing for the archive admins | 14:51 |
| sgclark | so with that said clivejo, if I can sponsor you, I will. | 14:51 |
| sgclark | I just am too busy to be more helpful, sorry :( | 14:52 |
| clivejo | Im trying to take the pressure off sgclark and yofel | 14:52 |
| clivejo | not add work for them! | 14:53 |
| yofel | something went wrong in that commit I think... | 14:53 |
| yofel | packaging wise it would still be correct I think, as dpkg considers that a comment | 14:54 |
| clivejo | Ive replaced it and refreshed symbols | 14:54 |
| yofel | the symbolhelper might misbehave on successive runs though | 14:54 |
| clivejo | just wondered what happened it it | 14:54 |
| acheronuk | yofel: so, would you go with the version of that manpage merge I originally proposed? | 14:57 |
| yofel | ack | 14:57 |
| acheronuk | :) | 14:58 |
| clivejo | whats with all these man page errors? | 14:58 |
| yofel | clivejo: could you merge that? I don't have a workspace at hand | 14:59 |
| clivejo | are the translated man pages new? | 14:59 |
| clivejo | sure, give me a link | 14:59 |
| acheronuk | I put up a link yesterday I think? they are doing reviews to move and rename them | 14:59 |
| yofel | https://code.launchpad.net/~acheron/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kconfigwidgets/+merge/296916 | 15:00 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: ref on those manpage changes here https://todo.kde.org/?controller=task&action=show&task_id=520 | 15:01 |
| clivejo | pushed and ppa3 uploaded to PPA | 15:03 |
| * clivejo crosses fingers | 15:04 | |
| * acheronuk crosses crosses | 15:04 | |
| clivejo | crossed +'s would be a * | 15:06 |
| acheronuk | clever | 15:08 |
| clivejo | LOL | 15:08 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: wanna fix kjsembed in the same way? | 15:11 |
| acheronuk | ok | 15:11 |
| clivejo | Im mopping up symbols | 15:12 |
| BluesKaj | wondering about the nvidia bug: dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-opencl-icd-340_340.96-0ubuntu6_amd64.deb (--unpack), whether it's being worked on ...the workaround is ok , but I still get freezes | 15:12 |
| acheronuk | there was a snappy update in the pipeline I think? | 15:14 |
| BluesKaj | didn't see any snappy updates so far ...still have the ubuntu-drivers ppa enabled | 15:16 |
| clivejo | yofel: http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.23.0_yakkety.html | 15:19 |
| clivejo | kinit lintian warning : manpage-has-errors-from-man usr/share/man/it/man8/kdeinit5.8.gz 106: warning: macro `AQ' not defined | 15:19 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: pbuilder running on kjsembed just to check | 15:25 |
| acheronuk | I'm practising with that | 15:25 |
| clivejo | are you pulling in from staging-frameworks PPA? | 15:26 |
| acheronuk | yes | 15:27 |
| clivejo | its gone green on the qa page | 15:27 |
| acheronuk | added in a hook to add the ppa for now | 15:27 |
| clivejo | are you keeping notes? | 15:28 |
| clivejo | how to do it?!? | 15:28 |
| acheronuk | do what, the man pages? | 15:28 |
| clivejo | pbuilder etc | 15:28 |
| acheronuk | I can do | 15:29 |
| clivejo | just helps if we can spot our documentation black holes | 15:29 |
| acheronuk | I was planning to do something, as at the moment I'm grabbing the command out of bash history. | 15:30 |
| clivejo | I think once kjsembed is fixed might be safe to test these! | 15:31 |
| acheronuk | drat W: libkf5jsembed-dev: manpage-has-errors-from-man usr/share/man/ca/man1/kjscmd5.1.gz 42: warning: macro `AQ' not defined | 15:31 |
| clivejo | same as kinit | 15:32 |
| acheronuk | do seem to have installed though | 15:33 |
| clivejo | yeah, thats just a warning | 15:33 |
| clivejo | that something "might" be wrong | 15:33 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: https://code.launchpad.net/~acheron/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kjsembed/+merge/296956 | 15:39 |
| clivejo | merged and uploaded | 15:42 |
| * acheronuk crosses dodecagrams | 15:44 | |
| clivejo | LOL | 15:45 |
| clivejo | KCI is taking its time with kconfigwidgets | 15:45 |
| acheronuk | yes, I saw that. made me look for a sec | 15:46 |
| acheronuk | oh KCI? | 15:46 |
| clivejo | http://kci.pangea.pub | 15:46 |
| acheronuk | thought you meant the version in staging ppa, which is slow in publishing | 15:47 |
| acheronuk | which I had just looked at | 15:47 |
| * acheronuk needs coffee | 15:47 | |
| clivejo | probably whats holding up KCI too | 15:47 |
| * genii slides a fresh mug of the strong stuff over to acheronuk | 15:49 | |
| acheronuk | Ta :) | 15:49 |
| acheronuk | looks kjsembed looks OK I think? apart from those warming which knew would be there | 15:55 |
| clivejo | you want to try installing it? | 15:56 |
| acheronuk | on have a VM for YY | 15:56 |
| acheronuk | which is probably best! | 15:57 |
| clivejo | on? | 15:57 |
| acheronuk | on what? | 15:57 |
| clivejo | on have a VM for YY | 15:57 |
| clivejo | dont? | 15:57 |
| acheronuk | bad typing! "onLY have a VM for YY" | 15:58 |
| clivejo | VM is fine | 15:59 |
| clivejo | just test it installs! | 15:59 |
| acheronuk | just updating it | 15:59 |
| clivejo | sitter: how does KCI deal with projects which only have an unstable branch? ie how does a successful ECM build get into stable PPA? | 16:07 |
| acheronuk | 158 packages to updgrade | 16:08 |
| clivejo | probably better to do it in two updates | 16:09 |
| clivejo | main archive first and reboot | 16:09 |
| clivejo | and then add frameworks PPA | 16:09 |
| acheronuk | no, that was the frameworks! | 16:11 |
| clivejo | dont think there are 158 frameworks :/ | 16:11 |
| clivejo | maybe you have a lot of dev packages etc installed | 16:12 |
| acheronuk | http://paste.ubuntu.com/17146751/ | 16:13 |
| clivejo | wow | 16:13 |
| clivejo | looks like it installed ok though :) | 16:13 |
| acheronuk | yep :) | 16:14 |
| acheronuk | reboot | 16:14 |
| acheronuk | rebooted. logged in. plasma running. | 16:18 |
| * clivejo dances | 16:18 | |
| acheronuk | I don't dance, but I can cheer | 16:20 |
| clivejo | more of a feet shuffle | 16:21 |
| mamarley | Yay, will this get backported to Xenial too? | 16:22 |
| clivejo | probably | 16:27 |
| clivejo | anyone else on Yakkety care to try an install? | 16:27 |
| mamarley | clivejo: I will try on the VM. | 16:30 |
| mamarley | Wow, this VM boots faster than the laptop on which it is running… | 16:32 |
| clivejo | how is that possible? | 16:34 |
| mamarley | Less HW to initialize, I guess. | 16:34 |
| * clivejo holds nvidia packages | 16:38 | |
| mamarley | The upgrade was clean and everything seems to work after rebooting. Great job! | 16:40 |
| clivejo | ok, FW5.23 running on real hardware | 16:46 |
| * clivejo wanders off for tea | 16:50 | |
| soee | :) | 16:56 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> soee will press the backport button | 17:02 |
| soee | clivejo: are the FW 5.23 ready in Yakkety? | 17:05 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> I think so | 17:06 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Ive just installed them on my YY install | 17:06 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> Installed and running good | 17:06 |
| soee | well then, if all is ready on Yakkety lets start backporting :D | 17:06 |
| * BluesKaj loks forward to seeing the backports loaded up with goodies | 17:12 | |
| BluesKaj | looks even | 17:12 |
| soee | BluesKaj: well the official release is next week, so not backports update till than - only staging/landing | 17:15 |
| BluesKaj | so i have those ppas, just need to enable them | 17:17 |
| BluesKaj | soee, | 17:17 |
| soee | well yes but there is nothing new yet ;) | 17:17 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 17:18 |
| BluesKaj | yeah I suspected that was just a joke about the backporting ;-) | 17:18 |
| BluesKaj | relaxing atm anyway ...taking a break from mowing the lawn | 17:19 |
| soee | well i think Frameworks aren't problematic here now. Plasma 5.7 will be though - even for Yakkety as it requires Qt 5.6.1 | 17:19 |
| BluesKaj | my problem is the nvidia upgrade bug , that's about all | 17:21 |
| soee | huh ? | 17:21 |
| soee | what bug ? | 17:21 |
| BluesKaj | dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-opencl-icd-340_340.96-0ubuntu6_amd64.deb (--unpack): | 17:22 |
| BluesKaj | there is no script in the new version of the package - giving up | 17:22 |
| soee | BluesKaj: well there are solutions in bugreport | 17:23 |
| BluesKaj | there is a workaround, but it's not worth the effort | 17:24 |
| BluesKaj | the system is workong ok atm | 17:24 |
| BluesKaj | and if I need stability like watching movies etc, I just switch to Xenial on the other partition | 17:26 |
| BluesKaj | my media stuff is on an outboard sata drive | 17:27 |
| BluesKaj | ok , back to work.... | 17:32 |
| clivejo | yofel, do you have any idea how to turn off the nightly rebuild on KCI? | 18:11 |
| clivejo | or sgclark ^ | 18:11 |
| sgclark | clivejo: disable the job that runs it? | 18:21 |
| sgclark | would be my guess | 18:22 |
| clivejo | what job runs it? | 18:22 |
| sgclark | no | 18:22 |
| sgclark | clue | 18:22 |
| clivejo | mgmt_merger and mgmt_progenitor seem to run at 00:00 | 18:24 |
| clivejo | but I cant see what actually triggers them | 18:24 |
| clivejo | but they are "Started by timer" | 18:24 |
| clivejo | hi dougl | 19:27 |
| clivejo | shadeslayer: did you add upstream projects to KCI? | 19:58 |
| shadeslayer | clivejo: I did not? | 21:59 |
| clivejo | oh | 21:59 |
| soee_ | Mozilla Firefox 47.0 Lands in All Supported Ubuntu OSes, and Arch Linux | 23:41 |
| soee_ | there is also Kernel update in Xenial :) | 23:42 |
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