[04:31] <rustycog> hi
[04:31] <rustycog> i have a tin-foil-hat kinda question, is there spyware in kubuntu like there was in ubuntu?
[04:38] <lethu> rustycog: never heard of spyware being in ubuntu
[04:43] <dax> if you mean the amazon unity stuff: no
[04:49] <rustycog> i have a tin-foil-hat kinda question, is there spyware in kubuntu like there was in ubuntu?
[04:51] <dax> if you mean the amazon unity stuff: no
[05:01] <rustycog> haha yes dax exactly
[05:01] <rustycog> so they aren't trying to sneak in stuff like that?  because I got discouraged using any canonical products after that fiasco
[05:02] <rustycog> but then I heard soemthing about canonical  getting all worked up with kubuntu
[05:02] <rustycog> and wanted to distance themselves from that project
[05:09] <dax> not that i know of, no
[05:09] <dax> (re: sneaking in stuff)
[06:39] <irctc428> Hey. I tried Kubuntu for the first time yesterday, but got a problem. Everything went fine, for cuple of hours, but suddenly it just froze. The SSD led stopped flashing. I used the physical off button to reboot, but a few seconds after login the same thing happened, over and over. Anyone ever experienced this?
[06:40] <irctc428> Kubuntu 16.04 LTS 64-bi
[06:40] <irctc428> t
[06:43] <hateball> irctc428: Does ~/.xsession-errors contain anything exciting?
[06:43] <hateball> irctc428: what GPU/driver are you using?
[06:45] <irctc428> I have no accessible logs at the moment as I reinstalled with Xubuntu to see if it's more stable.
[06:45] <irctc428> The GPU is an intergrated Intel Skylake
[06:45] <irctc428> Driver is just what Kubuntu installed for me
[06:46] <irctc428> The GPU driver is what I suspected mysel
[06:46] <irctc428> f
[06:49] <hateball> irctc428: you do know you could have just "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" rather than reinstall the entire system
[06:50] <hateball> irctc428: And if you're not running Plasma, as well have no logs, I don't see how we can help
[06:51] <irctc428> No, it froze 2 seconds in after every login..
[06:51] <hateball> there are issues with kwin vsync and intel gpus, that much I know
[06:53] <irctc428> I did boot into recovery mode, so logs were accessible then. I will try to reinstall at a later point, and want to know what to look for then.
[06:53] <irctc428> would it be the same to "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" from xubuntu?
[06:54] <irctc428> Then I'll just get to choose which to boot in grub?
[06:59] <calher> How do I get an on-screen keyboard and an icon to activate it in the task bar?
[06:59] <calher> or bottom panel, or w/e
[07:08] <makinen> anyone using tiling kwin script?
[07:09] <makinen> it breaks gvim :(
[07:11] <calher> > gvim
[07:11] <calher> kek
[07:12] <hateball> makinen: any reason you'd use gvim instead of kate with vim bindings?
[07:12] <hateball> under plasma, that is
[07:14] <calher> Yeah, or just regular Vim?
[07:14] <calher> or <Censored>
[07:14] <makinen> I've been using gvim for years
[07:15] <makinen> does kate even have the same functionality as gvim even with the vim bindings
[07:15] <calher> As a Vim user, I found GVim to be a tacky terminal emulator for Vim.
[07:16] <makinen> regular vim doesn't have tabs :)
[07:18] <calher> makinen: I see tabs at https://vimuser.org/
[07:21] <makinen> can I switch between them by clicking one?
[07:21] <makinen> theyre buffers instead of tabs though
[07:21] <calher> > editing text
[07:21] <calher> > clicking
[07:21] <calher> DOES_NOT_COMPUTE
[07:22] <calher> The only person who's allowed to click while editing text is Ken.
[07:22] <calher> Because ACME.
[07:23] <makinen> well, I'm using a browser at the same time when I'm coding in vim
[07:24] <calher> frecel: Do you use GVim?
[07:24] <makinen> clicking tabs fits just fine to my workflow
[07:24] <calher> But GVim...
[07:25] <calher> It's the tackiest GUI I've ever seen.  Emacs at least makes the GUI a full experience in its own right.
[07:26] <calher> When I used Vim, I only used GVim because it was the only version of Vim I could run from a flash drive.
[07:26] <calher> (At school)
[07:27] <makinen> I'm open to suggestions for replacing it
[07:27] <makinen> tabs and open file menu are probably the only reasons why I prefer gvim over regular vim
[07:30] <makinen> oh and sometimes I use a menu action for splitting the window because I don't remember the corresponding vim command
[07:33] <calher> makinen: ask vimuser @ #librespeech
[07:33] <calher> im not up to speed on vim, i use emacs
[07:33] <calher> at least, now i do
[07:33] <calher> i'm intending to practice vim soon tho
[07:37] <user|85067> hi guys
[07:38] <calher> Hi.
[07:38] <user|85067> I am having trouble dual-booting Kubuntu 16.04 alongside Windows 10. I installed Kubuntu 16.04 maybe a month ago and the installation went fine, but now, after the partitioning screen, just as the installation is actually starting, it tells me it can't unmount /cdrom.
[07:38] <user|85067> Has anyone else encountered something similar?
[07:59] <xieyi> how could I delete widget from command line
[08:00] <xieyi> I found how to do it in kde 4 http://askubuntu.com/questions/171119/how-to-control-kde-4-9-0-plasma-widgets-from-command-line
[08:01] <xieyi> but it doesnt work in kde 5
[08:04] <acheron_uk> plasma config files have moved to ~/.config/ in plasma 5
[08:46] <makinen> how can I replace kwin with something else?
[08:50] <TomTom> good morning. any idea when kmail 5.2.x will be available in xenial backports? this khtml/kmail bug which prevents the rendering of inline images is very annoying :-)
[09:20] <hateball> makinen: go into "standard programs" and set a different window manager
[09:21] <hateball> why anyone runs plasma without kwin however boggles the mind
[09:22] <makinen> there is no good tiling support in kwin :(/
[09:27] <makinen> I can't find "standard programs" settings is it in system settings?
[09:30] <hateball> makinen: hmmm, I just search in krunner
[09:31] <makinen> it won
[09:32] <makinen> it won't find it either
[09:40] <hateball> makinen: /usr/bin/kcmshell5 componentchooser
[09:50] <makinen> hateball: thx can I replace kwin without logging out?
[09:58] <hateball> makinen: well you can run whateverWM --replace most likely
[10:04] <acheron_uk> 'kcmshell5 componentchooser' in terminal should get you to http://i.imgur.com/wF8sBEO.png
[10:08] <DarkDays> Hi
[10:09] <DarkDays> Anyone know how to launch the kubuntu desktop on a vps?
[10:11] <makinen> I restarted it but I'm not sure if awesome was running instead of kwin :p
[10:12] <makinen> maybe I just fix some bugs in the tiling script
[10:46] <smusic> hi guys, i'm here for the third time since yesterday... i haven't managed to fix kubuntu 16.04 installation issues yet
[10:46] <smusic> Anyone here?
[10:46] <hateball> smusic: What are your issues?
[10:47] <smusic> hateball: As soon as I click Install Now (after choosing partition scheme), I get an error that /cdrom cannot be unmounted. I am installing from a USB stick.
[10:47] <smusic> Apparently, one of the existing (Windows) partitions is mounted at /cdrom.
[10:47] <smusic> I have no idea why.
[10:49] <hateball> smusic: oh so it's a dualboot? not touched that in a decade+ so I dont really have any idea
[10:50] <hateball> smusic: tried searching launchpad?
[10:50] <smusic> Yeah, I've tried googleing, no luck. I was able to find that other people have had the issue, but their workarounds proved ineffective.
[10:51] <hateball> smusic: and the windows os is properly shut off and not left hibernating?
[10:51] <smusic> The weirdest part is that I've already installed Kubuntu 16.04 about a month ago, and it worked.
[10:51] <hateball> I remember someone talking about that causing trouble
[10:51] <smusic> Yup. I've had multiple distros before this.
[10:53] <smusic> Why does Kubuntu LiveCD mount existing partitions?
[10:54] <smusic> Well, it mounted only of the existing partitions.
[10:56] <chinmoy> hi folks
[11:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:07] <tessio_> hello..
[12:07] <tessio_> it there any plans for Qt 5.6.1 on Kubuntu 16.04 via PPA?
[12:09] <tessio_> I'm waiting for the multi monitor fix to finally jump on the Plasma5 bus
[12:13] <chinmoy> i have just started wirting a patch for a bug in plasma. will anyone  tell me what should be my course of action after i have completed coding the patch ?
[12:14] <yossarianuk> chinmoy: good man (sorry not sure of the process), thanks for working on KDE
[12:15] <mparillo> I would guess step 1. is to get a KDE Identity: https://identity.kde.org/
[12:15] <chinmoy> mparillo: well i think i have completed step 1.
[12:16] <mparillo> Step 2 is to join #kde-devel and #plasma and ask there.
[12:16] <chinmoy> ok :p
[12:17] <mparillo> If the bug has a number on bugs.kde.org, I would offer your patch there, and reference it in the channels.
[12:17] <chinmoy> i was thinking whether there are some general steps one must follow after writing a patch.
[12:47] <irctc370> Hey. What is the GUI in kubuntu called? Is it KDE or Plasma? What is Plasma in relationship to KDE?
[12:48] <BluesKaj> !plasma
[12:48] <irctc370> !plasma
[12:48] <BluesKaj> !info plasma
[12:49] <BluesKaj> !plasma-desktop
[12:49] <BluesKaj> !info plasma-desktop
[12:49] <BluesKaj> optional?
[12:52] <BluesKaj> think the bot info needs some updating
[12:53] <Pici> BluesKaj: why do you say that?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> try installing the OS without plasma
[12:55] <irctc370> So what is Plasma?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> irctc370, https://www.kde.org/workspaces/plasmadesktop/
[12:58] <irctc370> Yeah, I kind of understand that it's the GUI, but what is KDE then?
[12:59] <irctc370> And I can also read about that on wikipedia or whatever, but I still don't really understand the difference
[13:00] <EvilRoey> KDE is a framework including Plasma, under-the-hood engines for various important things and libraries for programs
[13:01] <EvilRoey> irctc370: plasma is the name of the desktop user interface
[13:01] <EvilRoey> irctc370: programs can be written using KDE libraries, and they are called KDE programs
[13:01] <irctc370> Ok, so KDE without Plasma is just a cli?
[13:01] <irctc370> "just"
[13:01] <EvilRoey> irctc370: you can use KDE in the CLI yes
[13:01] <EvilRoey> KDE without Plasma still involves things like KWin
[13:02] <EvilRoey> kwin is the window manager
[13:02] <BluesKaj> but it's not just a cli
[13:02] <EvilRoey> plasma is the panel and desktop widgets
[13:02] <irctc370> Does Plasma run on top of kwin?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> more like within
[13:03] <Pici> BluesKaj: the bot is not specific to Kubuntu.  None of the desktop packages are required.  iirc, only things that are part of the base install, like bash, are required
[13:05] <irctc370> Can I start plasma from xubuntu? I have installed kubuntu-desktop from apt-get.
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Pici, yeah , but kubuntu is going in a different direction than ubuntu , think some of the info should be more specific to kubuntu in the kubuntu chat..it's confusing otherwise
[13:06] <antix> on 16.04 how do I  (1) get rid of a note on my desktop, (2) get the notes applet to stop making notes when I middle click the desktop?
[13:07] <Pici> BluesKaj: as long as it uses the same ubuntu repositories, I can't tell it to do otherwise.
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Pici, yeah that's an unfortunate setup, the flavours should have their info db
[13:09] <BluesKaj> own info db
[13:18] <antix> answer: right click the non-existant "titlebar" on the note to get the option to close it, lock widgets on the desktop to stop the middle click behavior
[14:00] <DclRules> I'm having trouble with akonadi and its related packages. I'm thinking its a patch problem with Kubuntu because it is using some weird switches when it calls mysql as it starts. So how do you report such a bug?
[14:54] <elezium> I was browsing the KDE Configuration and I see a choice for the Renedering backend: XRender, OpenGL.. which one is faster?
[14:57] <BluesKaj> elezium, usually OpenGL, but that depends on your gpu capabilities
[14:58] <elezium> nvidia 970
[14:58] <elezium> openGL, I believe?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> yup
[14:58] <elezium> Thanks sir.
[14:58] <elezium> Another one.. I can't find where the ctrl-f9 is mapped.. any clue?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> that card should handle 3.1
[14:59] <elezium> k. I just swtiched to 3 1..
[15:00] <BluesKaj> elezium, no idea about ctl+ F9
[15:00] <elezium> haa! found the f9!
[15:00] <BluesKaj> does nothing here, it's not mapped to anything
[15:02] <elezium> http://imgur.com/F9QYKa2
[15:03] <rattking> elezium: system settings, shortcuts, global keyboard shortcuts, kde component system settings
[15:04] <rattking> buried way way down
[15:04] <BluesKaj> ok , but i don't bother withg KB shortcuts
[15:04] <elezium> I don't bother much.. except when they overlap with the software I use ;)
[15:04] <BluesKaj> not many anyway
[15:04]  * rattking <3's keyboard short cuts
[15:05] <elezium> I just use the basics one, really.
[15:06] <elezium> but Ctrl-f9 = Make in IntelliJ so.
[15:12] <solomongrey> 这是什么？怎么象聊天室？
[15:13] <solomongrey> ？？？
[15:59] <Mrokii> Hello. I have a problem. I've recently installed Kubuntu 16.04 on a laptop but forgot my password so I went into the Greb-menu to get into the root-console to set a new password (which seemed to work). But when I tried to enter the password on the graphical login-screen, the login-button becomes greyed out (every button as it seems), I can't reboot or relog and the mouse cursor turns to something resembling
[15:59] <Mrokii> an X.
[15:59] <Mrokii> I'm not sure if it's related to the password change, but the last time I used the laptop (before the password-change) I was able to log in without problems.
[16:38] <Guest67352> If I choose guided installation and select my disk, it said the partiation table on another disk will be changed as well, why is that_
[16:38] <Guest67352> It isnt listing that disk as going to be formatte
[16:38] <Guest67352> d
[16:39] <Guest67352> http://i.imgur.com/sC6myV1.jpg
[16:40] <genii> !vivid
[17:09] <Guest67352> bagh, why cant I access my HDD\s from live
[19:20] <kaleul> Hi my friends
[19:21] <kaleul> Could you help me about choice a new linux distribution?
[19:21] <kaleul> Well, sorry for a poor english., I'm a Martian
[19:22] <kaleul> so, I buy a new Think pad L450, i7 and etc,. installed a Mint KDE 17.3
[19:22] <ikonia> kaleul: we only support kubuntu here sorry
[19:22] <ikonia> we don't help you with other distros
[19:23] <kaleul> Yeah, i need to know if change Kunbutu then a Mint KDE is a great choice
[19:23] <ikonia> what ?
[19:24] <kaleul> I installed a new Kubuntu 16,, on Virtual BOX
[19:24] <ikonia> ok ?
[19:24] <kaleul> I liked
[19:24] <ikonia> great
[19:25] <kaleul> Look a very bealtyful and Stable, peharps a Kernel
[19:25] <ikonia> perhaps a kernel ?
[19:26] <kaleul> and a Unbutu 16, and Plasma
[19:26] <ikonia> sorry - I don't understand what you are asking
[19:26] <kaleul> sorry,, wait please
[19:27] <kaleul> I want to test Kubuntu, because the Mint won't Hibernate
[19:27] <ikonia> ok ?
[19:27] <kaleul> Is a resource that i use a lot of time for day
[19:28] <ikonia> so test it ?
[19:28] <kaleul> but don't run
[19:28] <ikonia> what doesn't run ?
[19:28] <kaleul> I dont know, maybe the older Kernel
[19:28] <kaleul> Ubuntu 14 based
[19:29] <ikonia> what ?
[19:29] <ikonia> you're installing kubuntu 16.04 - but saying it's 14 based ?
[19:30] <kaleul> my Mint dont Hibernate because maybe have a older Kernel Ubuntu 14 based
[19:30] <kaleul> You know?
[19:30] <ikonia> I don't care about your mint problem
[19:30] <ikonia> as I said - we do not support mint
[19:31] <kaleul> Well, the Kunbutu support center is in UK?
[19:31] <ikonia> support center ?
[19:31] <ikonia> kaleul: what is it you need help with ?
[19:32] <BluesKaj> methinks he needs help with making up his mind:-)
[19:32] <kaleul> some informations,
[19:33] <ikonia> what information do you want
[19:33] <kaleul> about release,. if i install a Kubuntu, and come a great upgrade,, I need reinstall ?
[19:33] <ikonia> no
[19:34] <kaleul> or provide a simple upgrade
[19:34] <kaleul> Well
[19:34] <ikonia> simple
[19:35] <kaleul> My another question gone because I saw a text above
[19:35] <kaleul> Our commercial support is provided in the UK by Emerge Open.
[19:36] <ikonia> yes, if you have a comercial support contract a business center will support and help you
[19:37] <kaleul> Good
[19:40] <kaleul> What about a Hibernation? My new Thinkpad L450 goes hibernate on Kunbutu 16?
[19:41] <ikonia> kaleul: try it
[19:49] <kaleul> Thanks a lot my friends!!
[19:52] <OerHeks> kaleul, have fun
[20:43] <calher>  /go #debian
[20:43] <Pici> goooo banana
[20:53] <allesz_> I have a weird issue here with my kubuntu 16.04 install. If I switch between apps and start typing it takes sometimes up to 7 s to see the written context. could it be that there is something wrong with the task switcher?  I am using Cover Switch.
[20:53] <allesz_> this is happening for example switching from evolution to calligra sheets
[20:55] <allesz_> I hope not but could it be that switching between QT and GTK apps that there is a time penalty. The typed text doesnt get lost it appears but very late.
[21:17] <allesz_> hmmm could be also plank's fault.
[21:46] <kfh> after upgrading from kubuntu 14.10 to 15.04 the plasma login screen won't let me change the login account.  how do i change the default account on the plasma login screen?
[22:01] <goddard> kfh: you can try the arrow keys
[22:17] <somekool> khn 15.04 ? upgrade to 16.04
[22:36] <TBotNik> all: All, Trying to fix problem I posted at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5558619#post5558619
[22:50] <OerHeks> TBotNik, 2 ranges? eth0 IP: x.y.1.198 and eth0:0 IP: x.y.3.200 ??
[22:51] <TBotNik> OerHeks: 2nd is forced by CloneZilla!
[22:53] <TBotNik> OerHeks: Think that gives a virtual machine/node, not sure why, never ever been successful in making Clonezilla work!