[05:58] <pitti> Good morning
[06:51] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[06:51] <seb128> hey pitti
[06:52] <pitti> bonjour seb128!
[06:52] <seb128> wie gehts?
[06:57] <pitti> seb128: much better, thanks!
[06:57] <seb128> great!
[07:15] <didrocks> hey seb128, pitti
[07:20] <willcooke> morning all
[07:20] <willcooke> seb128, did you and robert_ancell meet yet?
[07:26] <willcooke> erm, github down for anyone else?
[07:27] <pitti> willcooke: confirmed
[07:27] <pitti> was still working 30 mins ago
[07:27] <willcooke> pitti, thx
[07:27] <pitti> https://status.github.com/ says "all operational", though
[07:27] <willcooke> yeah, that loads for me too
[07:27] <willcooke> but is lies
[07:28] <pitti> but the graphs clearly say otherwise :)
[07:28] <pitti> (the spike/drop at the end)
[07:28] <willcooke> this is where it turns out the "All systems operational" is just a PNG
[07:28] <willcooke> ;)
[07:29] <willcooke> evening robert_ancell
[07:29] <willcooke> robert_ancell, just going on the school run, brb
[07:30] <willcooke> pitti, back now
[07:30] <willcooke> github that is
[07:32] <robert_ancell> willcooke, so the schoolrun didn't take 1min?
[07:32] <robert_ancell> Are you homeschooling your kids?
[07:53] <willcooke> back
[07:54] <willcooke> robert_ancell, @ home school - hell no.
[07:54] <willcooke> :)
[07:55] <robert_ancell> seb128, back yet?
[08:03] <didrocks> willcooke: it was temporary (on gh issue)
[08:03] <didrocks> willcooke: just at the time I was pushing some code, ofc! :)
[08:03] <willcooke> didrocks, lol, of course :)
[08:04] <didrocks> omg, it's me /o\
[08:04] <didrocks> ;)
[08:04] <Laney> HI
[08:04] <didrocks> hey Laney
[08:04] <willcooke> morning Laney
[08:04] <seb128> robert_ancell, hey
[08:05] <robert_ancell> seb128, willcooke, hangout?
[08:05] <seb128> if you want
[08:05] <Laney> what up
[08:05] <robert_ancell> I think it will be faster
[08:05] <willcooke> seb128, robert_ancell - https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/will?authuser=0
[08:05] <robert_ancell> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/will?authuser=1
[08:05] <robert_ancell> whoops, wrong paste
[08:07] <seb128> robert_ancell, willcooke, I'm coming, google is just giving me the 2fa finger
[08:35] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:35] <Laney> meow seb128
[08:35] <Laney> alright
[08:36] <seb128> using your new outside desk? ;-)
[08:36] <Laney> going to work on a 3.20 pkg in a minute
[08:36] <Laney> oho
[08:36] <Laney> it looks colder today
[08:36] <seb128> here too
[08:36] <Laney> how are you?
[08:36] <Laney> good hangout?
[08:36] <seb128> I just closed a bit the windows
[08:37] <seb128> good!
[08:37] <seb128> woke up early, had time to morning catchup and then to go out for coffee before the hangout
[08:37] <seb128> yeah, summary is that we are going to do moar snaps!
[08:38] <robert_ancell> seb128, willcooke bug 1590679
[08:38] <seb128> robert_ancell, thanks
[08:38] <willcooke> thanks robert_ancell
[08:38] <willcooke> night
[08:38] <robert_ancell> bye
[08:41] <Laney> attente: is there a mir patch needed for gtk 3.20?
[08:41] <seb128> willcooke, triaged it and asked for input from tyhicks and jdstrand
[08:43] <willcooke> thank you!
[10:08]  * Laney eyes lcy01
[10:21] <Sweet5hark1> whoa, Microsoft just forked FreeBSD -- and non-hostile at that.
[10:55] <willcooke> Sweet5hark1, blimey!
[11:00] <ogra_> non-hostile ? how evil of them !
[11:12] <pitti> Laney: still that effing Python bug (bug 1584147)
[11:12] <pitti> Laney: fortunately at least half of the fix landed upstream yesterday
[11:15] <Laney> pitti: oh right, I thought you worked around this
[11:15] <Laney> why is it only lcy?
[11:17] <pitti> Laney: because that's the one which fails to build adt images in 95% of the cases
[11:18] <pitti> Laney: "my" adt images have booted before and thus have a /var/blabla/random_seed thingy
[11:18] <pitti> but as lcy01 mostly times out on create-image, it uses the standard cloud images which don't have a pre-existing random_seed
[11:18] <pitti> (for good reasons :) )
[11:21]  * Laney cries
[11:21] <Laney> pitti: thanks for the info
[11:29] <mdeslaur> anybody know why xenial shows a muted volume notification when I get to lightdm, and right after logging in?
[11:30] <pitti> Laney: life is fun, isn't it :-/
[11:58] <seb128> mdeslaur, no ... is that new? plain xenial? or using unity8 overlay?
[12:00] <mdeslaur> seb128: plain xenial, since I upgraded my wily laptop to xenial last week, I get those when I get to lightdm, and when my session opens
[12:00] <mdeslaur> seb128: none of my volumes are muted
[12:00] <mdeslaur> I'm not sure why it's appearing
[12:04] <seb128> unsure, tedg might have an idea?
[12:05] <ogra_> no pulse in the lightdm session =
[12:05] <ogra_> ?
[12:05] <seb128> well, it's not doing it for me and that's the first time I saw it reported
[12:06] <seb128> new indicator displays notifications on devices changes though
[12:06] <seb128> like if you connect an headset
[12:06] <seb128> so I wonder if there is some kind of device change event on mdeslaur's system?
[12:07] <ogra_> must be that /usr/bin/nsa-listen-on-mic service that blocks the audio device ;)
[12:08] <mdeslaur> haha :)
[12:08] <ogra_> check if other security team members see it too ;)
[12:08] <mdeslaur> they'll be pretty disappointed to record me farting and badly singing along to a taylor swift song
[12:08] <ogra_> lol
[12:16] <seb128> mdeslaur, best to ask xavigarcia he's on #ubuntu-devel
[12:16] <seb128> he's maintaining indicator-sound nowadays I think
[12:16] <mdeslaur> seb128: ok, thanks
[12:43] <dgadomski> hello everyone
[12:44] <dgadomski> do you know if there are any chances that bug 1314587 is going to be fixed?
[12:46] <ogra_> definitely not for 14.10
[12:48] <willcooke> dgadomski, not likely, but maybe Trevinho can comment when he's online ^  (he's at a sprint though)
[12:48] <dgadomski> thanks willcooke, Trevinho: I would appreciate your feedback on this
[12:50] <seb128> dgadomski, can you reproduce? is that still an issue in 16.04?
[12:51] <dgadomski> seb128: unfortunately I can't, I also wasn't able to reproduce it myself with 14.04
[12:51] <seb128> k, what I though
[12:51] <seb128> it would probably be fixed if it was easy to trigger/work on
[12:53] <dgadomski> I will keep trying with some different configurations
[13:15] <Trevinho> hey dgadomski
[13:16] <seb128> hey Trevinho
[13:16] <dgadomski> Trevinho: o/
[13:16] <Trevinho> hey seb128
[13:17] <Trevinho> how is going?
[13:18] <seb128> Trevinho, good! how is Canada? having fun at the hackfest?
[13:18] <Trevinho> seb128: I'm enjoying canada a lot
[13:18] <Trevinho> seb128: unexected north america.... :-)
[13:18] <seb128> hehe
[13:19] <seb128> first time there?
[13:19] <Trevinho> seb128: I've been in Toronto before, but I've to admit that French people did the right thing here :-D
[13:19] <seb128> :-)
[13:19] <Trevinho> I mean, quebec area has that european touch which make me feel more at home
[13:19] <seb128> I like Montréal better as well
[13:20] <Trevinho> seb128: have you been to Quebéc too?
[13:20] <seb128> no
[13:20] <Trevinho> (city)
[13:20] <Trevinho> eh, that's reaaallly nice. Tiny, but nice.
[13:20] <Trevinho> well, not so tiny... But old city is
[13:20] <seb128> one for next time then!
[13:21] <Trevinho> seb128: as for the sprint, going well... Getting busy too. I expect this cycle to be full of stuff
[13:22] <qengho> Has anyone seen a machine lose its link route (but preserve default route!) on DHCP expiration and re-lease?
[13:29] <willcooke> qengho, link route as in layer 2?
[13:29]  * willcooke googles link route 
[13:29] <willcooke> ohh
[13:30] <willcooke> the 127.0.0.0/8 route
[13:30] <willcooke> erk
[13:30] <qengho> willcooke: like, the locally-connected network is Foo. No IP routing to be done, just dump on the wire.
[13:33] <qengho> $ route -n; echo -e \\ncompare to\\n; route -n |grep -v ^[123456789]
[13:34] <qengho> Not a Desktop thing. I'll take this elsewhere.
[13:38] <Trevinho> dgadomski: mh, I'm not seeing that issue I've to say...
[13:47] <willcooke> qengho, are you using ip v6 at all?
[14:07] <dgadomski> Trevinho: can you think of any useful logs that an affected user could provide to shed more light on it?
[14:08] <Trevinho> dgadomski: is the way to replicate the bug still the same?
[14:08] <dgadomski> I believe so, ues
[14:08] <dgadomski> s/ues/yes
[14:08] <Trevinho> dgadomski: also is unity running fully accelerated to you, right?
[14:09] <Trevinho>  for being sure /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[14:09] <Trevinho> or ~/.cache/upstart/unity7.log
[14:09] <dgadomski> Trevinho: I need to ask for this data
[14:11] <dgadomski> Trevinho: is there anything else that could be useful to ask for at this point?
[14:15] <desrt> http://imgur.com/5lpQZJ1
[14:15] <Laney> tasty
[14:15] <Laney> the people or the food?
[14:16] <Laney> shan't say
[14:16] <pitti> desrt: give them a hug from me!
[14:17] <pitti> . o O { am I the only one who finds it crazy to do work IRC on a phone in a restaurant? }
[14:17] <desrt> pitti: attente says "that was horrible"
[14:17] <larsu> hi pitti!
[14:17] <larsu> hi Laney!
[14:17] <attente> lol i didn't know
[14:18] <seb128> hey desrt, larsu, attente
[14:18] <larsu> hi seb128!
[14:18] <larsu> Toronto \o/
[14:18] <Laney> hi there
[14:18] <Laney> hmm that hackfest
[14:18] <Laney> it's not too late for me to go
[14:18] <Laney> brb
[14:18] <larsu> ya Laney, come!
[14:18] <desrt> Laney: come!!!
[14:18] <seb128> larsu, sorry but I've to be with Trevinho on this one, he picked Montreal :p
[14:19] <Trevinho> ahah
[14:19] <larsu> yeah wrong choice, clearly
[14:19] <larsu> no Keg, for one
[14:19] <Trevinho> larsu: there's Keg
[14:19] <desrt> keg!
[14:19] <Trevinho> larsu: close to the hotel too...
[14:19] <larsu> Trevinho: not the good one ;)
[14:19] <desrt> Trevinho: there is no keg mansion
[14:19] <seb128> there is a "kek" here
[14:19] <Trevinho> hee
[14:19] <larsu> haha
[14:19] <Laney> key encryption key
[14:19] <seb128> but yeah, the keg mansion is nice
[14:19] <seb128> I've to say
[14:21] <Trevinho> Well, not sure it was the right one... but... well it was good http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7268/27404668711_54c29605b7_b.jpg
[14:21] <Laney> it's a hard life this sprinting lark
[14:22] <larsu> Trevinho: the food is probably just as good - the one in Toronto is just at a really nice location
[14:22] <Laney> larsu: what are you hackfesting on?
[14:22] <Laney> thought you were out of gtk stuff these days
[14:22] <Trevinho> larsu: ah, i've seen a pic, yeah.. it seems nice
[14:22] <Trevinho> so bad I missed it when I was there
[14:23] <Trevinho> some people is travelling there after sprint, though
[14:23] <Trevinho> well, after grand prix
[14:23] <larsu> grand prix?
[14:23] <Trevinho> Yes, there's the F1 grand prix on Sunday here
[14:24] <larsu> ah, F1
[14:24] <larsu> meh :)
[14:24]  * Trevinho not attending it... but there are Ferrai guys in the hotel with us
[14:25] <Trevinho> Ferrari*
[14:25] <didrocks> between football and italians, I don't know where to go those days to escape sport discussion…
[14:25] <didrocks> "the horror begins"
[14:26] <Trevinho> didrocks: no worries... We'll have to discuss a lot during this European cup... :-)
[14:26] <Trevinho> or maybe not... We've just a shitty team since some years
[14:26] <didrocks> see, it begins…
[14:26] <Trevinho> seb128: are you already ready for tomorrow night?
[14:27] <Trevinho> didrocks: i wouldn't have done... :_)
[14:27] <didrocks>  /o\
[14:27] <seb128> lol
[14:27] <didrocks> lalalala
[14:27] <Trevinho> if... you didn't remember
[14:27] <seb128> Trevinho, easy warm up round
[14:27] <Trevinho> seb128: easy... The easiest are the hardest
[14:27] <seb128> yeah, let's see
[14:27]  * Trevinho imagines Seb with the french flag make up
[14:28] <didrocks> he has to support 2 teams now though!
[14:29] <ogra_> didrocks, just take a vacation in the US ... (then you can instead experience the copa america)
[14:29]  * didrocks press F5 on https://github.com/ubuntu/snappy-playpen/wiki/Known-issues and see that seb did the work I was planning to do :)
[14:29] <didrocks> ogra_: I'm not *that* desperate :)
[14:30] <ogra_> he
[14:30] <ogra_> h
[14:32] <qengho> willcooke: no global v6 addresses, though v6 link is everywhere. It's v4 that's missing on re-lease.
[14:45] <seb128> didrocks, that would be 3, forgot germany :p though .nl didn't qualify for the euro this time
[14:45] <seb128> didrocks, :-)
[14:46] <seb128> didrocks, yeah, dholbach pinged me about it, there is probably a bit more to add
[17:10] <seb128> ok, time for grab something to eat and enjoy a bit the nice weather
[17:10] <seb128> have a nice evening desktopers!
[17:11] <willcooke> cheers seb128!
[17:12] <seb128> bye
[17:25] <Laney> laters from me too
[17:30] <willcooke> night Laney
[17:30] <willcooke> and with that... away
[17:30] <willcooke> night all