pilne | a lot of the other ubuntu family are getting quite critical reviews from dedoimedo, i wonder if mate would fare any better? | 00:23 |
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staeksauce | critical about what | 00:24 |
ouroumov | what's dedoimedo? | 00:24 |
pilne | a guy that does somewhat "everyday" reviews of linux distros | 00:25 |
pilne | or gal, but the writing comes across as very "guy" | 00:25 |
staeksauce | what are they critical of | 00:26 |
ouroumov | Apparently, samba | 00:27 |
ouroumov | realtek driver goodness | 00:28 |
pilne | bluletooth | 00:28 |
pilne | i mean, i don't use that stuff, but i can understand how they are considered "basics" these days | 00:30 |
ouroumov | I'm not a big fan of that gal/guy's review style | 00:31 |
pilne | neither am I as a whole, but it is one of the few sites to actually have reviewed a few 16.04s | 00:31 |
ouroumov | Yeah, Ars Technica only showed screenshots for Kubuntu and Ubuntu MATE, like two screenshot each and one paragraph, I was disappointed | 00:32 |
ouroumov | I don't get why he's spending so much of the review talking about problems in the ubuntu base, isn't he repeating himself? | 00:34 |
pilne | yeah... lol | 00:34 |
ouroumov | Also what's the point of doing a review before the first point release is out? | 00:35 |
ouroumov | The software updater hasn't even advertised the new LTS to people using old version | 00:36 |
pilne | they kinda make the point that the LTS should be solid when it comes out | 00:36 |
pilne | but i see yours as well. | 00:36 |
ouroumov | Someone should also tell him that Kubuntu only has 3 years support | 00:37 |
pilne | i looked into the requirements for sending them an email... PITA, so nope | 00:40 |
* nomic just installed 14.04 .. cos xchat is the old V (this is xubuntu) .. I run mate on the pi3s .. use the pi3s as server/media / development ... 14.04 runs out april next year .. wil l upgrade sometime .. is easy , just do it in the background -- did that with the pi3s - 15.04 to 16.04 mate .. while playing a film & working -- none of this win 10 upgrade business (log off, "shedule" ,, multiple reboots "will reboot se | 00:47 | |
ouroumov | ? | 00:47 |
nomic | seem to have an NFS problem on 16.04 anyway, fstab, mount doesn't work | 00:48 |
nomic | ? | 00:48 |
nomic | what. | 00:48 |
nomic | pi3s are great desktops if you use omxplayer for media -- avoide the browser .. browsers are hugely buggy resource hogs -- not suited to raspberry pi/mate | 00:49 |
nomic | so I run browser on laptop -- drift mouse cursor across to pi3 desktop, using x2x | 00:49 |
nomic | omxplayer = optimised player for pi3 .. it seems that much software is having to be written to run on arm | 00:49 |
nomic | mplayer / vlc -- will not work on pi3 | 00:50 |
nomic | IMO | 00:50 |
nomic | only omxplayer - that which is written for the pi3/mate | 00:50 |
nomic | not sure if its just mate .. but works briliantly -- I have sky news live stream on the pi3, in HD .. never had that with a pi3 | 00:51 |
nomic | livestreamer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg best --player omxplayer --fifo --player-args "{filename}" <- will stream sky news in HD window | 00:51 |
nomic | livestreamer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg best --player omxplayer --fifo --player-args "--win \"1000 600 1920 1200\" {filename}" <- will stream sky news live in HD In a little window, bottom right corner | 00:51 |
nomic | so cool | 00:51 |
nomic | people trying to get browser , youtube working .. its not on .. not with 1gb ram .. it would work if the browser were completely rewritten for arm | 00:53 |
nomic | youtube plays in firefox -- but theyres lag (it doesn't sync (sound,video)) | 00:54 |
santo | Hi,I need help | 01:45 |
ouroumov | hi santo | 01:45 |
santo | Steam does not launch. I installed from the sotware center (did not work), I have installed from the steam web page (did not work), I installed manually (did not work) | 01:47 |
ouroumov | What software center? | 01:47 |
ouroumov | Do you mean the Software Boutique? | 01:47 |
santo | yeap | 01:50 |
ouroumov | Have you subscribed to welcome updates? | 01:51 |
santo | i guess not | 01:52 |
santo | sorry for my ignorance where do I suscribe? | 01:56 |
ouroumov | When you launch "Welcome", there's a check box | 01:56 |
ouroumov | (System -> Welcome) | 01:56 |
ouroumov | It's in the top right corner I think | 01:56 |
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santo | hi | 02:33 |
santo | libGL error: unable to load driver: r600_dri.so | 02:33 |
santo | libGL error: driver pointer missing | 02:33 |
santo | libGL error: failed to load driver: r600 | 02:33 |
santo | libGL error: unable to load driver: swrast_dri.so | 02:33 |
santo | libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast | 02:33 |
santo | Steam does not launch | 02:33 |
santo | my software is updated. | 02:34 |
ouroumov | Run the fixes from the software boutique (last icon on the right) | 02:34 |
ouroumov | Then make sure you've gone through the "Driver & Firmware" step of the "Getting Started" section of the Welcome splash screen | 02:34 |
cam | y | 02:47 |
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ouroumov | y | 02:47 |
stooj | Hi - my 8GB card only has 7.4GB of writable storage. Is there any special trick I can do to the r-pi mate image to squash it on there? There's juuust not quite enough room | 03:01 |
nomic | you can't squeeze mate image into 8gb? | 03:04 |
nomic | its far smaller | 03:04 |
ouroumov | nomic, actually no | 03:05 |
nomic | ive got mate 16.04 on a micro ssd (pi3) , here which is using 5.2gb | 03:05 |
nomic | max. thats other stuff | 03:05 |
ouroumov | The compressed image is smaller | 03:06 |
nomic | the image (mate for pi) , is smaller | 03:06 |
nomic | you can get it in 7.4 | 03:06 |
ouroumov | The uncompressed image has a bunch of zeros | 03:06 |
nomic | with heaps to spare | 03:06 |
nomic | use gparted to squeeze your storage | 03:07 |
nomic | or release, after having written the image | 03:07 |
nomic | when you have written the img, the image needs to be squeezed, releasing up the space | 03:07 |
nomic | thats the "special trick" | 03:07 |
nomic | you mount your ssd from a laptop | 03:07 |
nomic | run gparted | 03:07 |
nomic | and you then can unlock the partician .. there is a bar which indicates the free space -- you move the bar towards the pi image, releasing the free space into a general pool | 03:08 |
nomic | you then commit or write the change | 03:08 |
nomic | forgot -- the 8gb card will be fully used, until you do that | 03:08 |
nomic | tool = "gparted" ouroumov | 03:08 |
nomic | https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/gparted-partition-guide-for-linux-and-windows-users/797 | 03:09 |
ouroumov | I don't really care, I don't have an rpi :o | 03:09 |
stooj | Sorry, not quite following. Where does an SSD come into it? Do I need to write the iso to a spare hard drive, then squeeze that, then dd that drive to a sdcard? | 03:11 |
stooj | Couldn't I mount the image somehow as a loopback device, I think? | 03:12 |
ouroumov | https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/raspberry-pi-mate-16-04-image-too-large-for-8gb-sdmc/5420 | 03:13 |
stooj | Ah, grand. Thanks ouroumov | 03:14 |
ouroumov | yw | 03:14 |
julian_ | hi, can anyone help me with setting up VNC server? | 05:05 |
julian_ | I followed the raspberry pi instructions to install tightvnc but when I try to run the command it says "server already running" or something | 05:06 |
julian_ | and I can't connect to the server from client | 05:06 |
ouroumov | Do you have a firewall running? | 05:07 |
julian_ | not sure about on ubuntu, this is a fresh install | 05:08 |
julian_ | and I ticked the option to add exception for Windows Firewall on my client | 05:08 |
ouroumov | This is Ubuntu MATE right? There's an "activate firewall" step in the Getting Started sequence of the Welcome application. If you toggled that then you're droping inbound packets by default | 05:08 |
julian_ | yeah I'm using MATE, I will take a look at that | 05:09 |
ouroumov | Also you should check your network setup. | 05:10 |
ouroumov | Are your client and the server on the same LAN? that sort of things. | 05:10 |
julian_ | well I've used remote desktop between two Windows computers | 05:11 |
julian_ | I'm new to using VNC so it's probably something I did(n't) do | 05:11 |
ouroumov | <julian_> well I've used remote desktop between two Windows computers -> That tells us nothing of your network setup :o | 05:12 |
julian_ | also the firewall is disabled | 05:13 |
julian_ | what do you need to know about the setup? the pi is plugged in through ethernet and my laptop is Wi-Fi? | 05:13 |
julian_ | also I checked the pi's IP address in the network list thingy | 05:13 |
ouroumov | Are the laptop and the pi on the same network? (Like, say, your home router's network) | 05:14 |
julian_ | yes | 05:14 |
ouroumov | And you can ping the pi from your laptop? | 05:14 |
ouroumov | Or ssh into it? | 05:14 |
ouroumov | I gotta go take a shower, bbl | 05:15 |
julian_ | didn't install ssh yet but I will try cmd ping | 05:15 |
julian_ | ping command in windows command prompt works when I type in the Pi's IP address | 05:16 |
ouroumov | Okay julian_. What are those instructions you followed for tightvnc setup? | 05:26 |
julian_ | I followed these ones: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/vnc/README.md | 05:27 |
julian_ | it's just when I try to make a new server and I do :1 it says a server is already running there, but I need to actually be able to specify the -geometry argument since my client has a smaller screen than this monitor the Pi is plugged into | 05:28 |
ouroumov | Yeah, see, I suspect those instructions are the problem | 05:28 |
ouroumov | You're running Ubuntu MATE version 16.04 or 15.10 ? | 05:28 |
julian_ | 16.04 | 05:29 |
ouroumov | Those instructions are for 15.10, under 16.04 Ubuntu has moved to systemd as an init system | 05:30 |
ouroumov | Try and adapt the how to from Digital Ocean. I checked and they're up to date | 05:30 |
ouroumov | https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-vnc-on-ubuntu-16-04 | 05:31 |
julian_ | I see, I will try those instructions instead then | 05:31 |
julian_ | thanks! | 05:31 |
ouroumov | Drop the stuff related to xfce however | 05:31 |
ouroumov | that's not the same DE as in Ubuntu MATE | 05:31 |
ouroumov | julian_, if you don't find a solution here you can search and ask in the community forums too | 05:33 |
ouroumov | I'm leaving for work, byebye | 05:34 |
julian_ | yeah I will skip the xfce step | 05:34 |
julian_ | bye | 05:34 |
fede | hola | 07:00 |
quest | Good day, i am using the recent ubuntu mate and i have been trying to install updates for a while now. Every time i try to install updates, i get the trying to install untrusted message. Can anyone help? Please | 07:07 |
pannenkoek | could you copy-paste the message? | 07:08 |
quest | The message: Requires installation of untrusted packages - This requires installing packages from unauthenticated sources. | 07:12 |
pannenkoek | yh but you need to find out which sources you have added | 07:13 |
pannenkoek | and then make sure the key is added or the source deleted :p | 07:14 |
ouroumov_ | pannenkoek, fyi there's a "Fixes" section in the software boutique | 07:39 |
pannenkoek | ah, today I learned :) | 07:40 |
ouroumov_ | ^^ | 07:41 |
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Akuli | Does ubuntu mate connect here automatically if someone opens hexchat? | 08:48 |
ouroumov_ | Akuli, I'm not sure this is the default channel when one open HexChat from the menu. | 09:23 |
ouroumov_ | But from the welcome app: yes | 09:23 |
Akuli | at least linux mint does it both ways | 09:23 |
Akuli | the welcome app and the menu | 09:24 |
Akuli | There was someone needing help with a driver issue on facebook, and i was just thinking if he's told to open hexchat will he end up here | 09:24 |
ouroumov_ | hm | 09:25 |
ouroumov_ | I'm thinking he might have landed on #ubuntu | 09:25 |
Akuli | let's see | 09:29 |
zebedee | Hi, I saw a post on google+ that Mate 1.4? was now available. Will this download automatically or will I have to choose to install it. Thanks in Advance. | 10:18 |
zebedee | My Bad - I suppose I should have checked the Forum first :P | 10:22 |
zebedee | Ciao | 10:22 |
manos | Hi i got a little problem. I add Greek language to my layouts but shortcuts doesn't work (Super + Space) | 11:05 |
manos | Also I go keyboard Layout Option and "key(s) to change layout" isn't exist | 11:07 |
ouroumov_ | hi manos | 11:24 |
manos | hi | 11:25 |
ouroumov_ | manos, I think that's a bug that's been reported on launchpad | 11:25 |
ouroumov_ | The key-switch thingie | 11:25 |
ouroumov_ | manos, have you completed the install of Language Support? | 11:25 |
manos | I am not sure !. I am not install any language so i i think i have not install Language Support | 11:26 |
ouroumov_ | Go to System -> Preferences -> Personal -> Language Support | 11:29 |
manos | i did it | 11:31 |
ouroumov_ | Hey flexiondotorg - this morning a Patron was there saying 1.14 had broken his sound settings. You didn't add the bit about mate-volume-control in the mail I think and he picked "Y" | 11:32 |
ouroumov_ | manos, ok | 11:33 |
manos | "key(s) to change layout" still not exist . Requires reboot ? | 11:33 |
ouroumov_ | You can try but I'm not sure that stuff has been fixed yet | 11:33 |
ouroumov_ | manos, you can also change keyboard layout using a terminal command | 11:33 |
flexiondotorg | ouroumov, Thanks. | 11:34 |
ouroumov_ | manos, haven't tried it for Greek but I think it'd work the same | 11:34 |
flexiondotorg | Disabling Indicators, then enabling them again should correct it. | 11:34 |
manos | i try this " setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle us,gr " and works | 11:35 |
ouroumov_ | flexiondotorg, maybe add it to your forum announcement? | 11:35 |
manos | setxkbmap -option grp:super_space_toggle us,gr doens't work | 11:36 |
ouroumov_ | manos, then I think the easy way would be to add a command applet to one of your panels | 11:36 |
ouroumov_ | oh | 11:36 |
ouroumov_ | That's weird manos | 11:37 |
ouroumov_ | I'm using super+space as my synapse shortcut so I don't think it's already in use by anything | 11:38 |
manos | Never mind thanks :) | 11:38 |
ouroumov_ | hope you'll figure it out | 11:39 |
ouroumov_ | Or that it'll be fixed by 16.04.1 | 11:39 |
manos | firstly i will try reboot | 11:39 |
manos | Thanks again | 11:40 |
ouroumov_ | yw | 11:40 |
acharya_r | Tried installing AppGrid, got his error. Any help? | 13:00 |
acharya_r | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 13:00 |
acharya_r | appgrid: Depends: app-install-data-partner but it is not going to be installed | 13:00 |
acharya_r | Depends: policykit-1-gnome but it is a virtual package | 13:00 |
acharya_r | Depends: python3 (>= 3.4) but 3.5.1-3 is to be installed | 13:00 |
acharya_r | Depends: python3-oauthlib but it is not going to be installed | 13:00 |
ouroumov_ | hi acharya_r | 13:06 |
ouroumov_ | acharya_r, make sure you're subscribed to Welcome Updates | 13:06 |
ouroumov_ | (Top Right corner of the welcome screen) | 13:07 |
ouroumov_ | Then go to the software boutique, run the "Fixes" (last icon on the right) | 13:07 |
ouroumov_ | Then try installing again | 13:07 |
acharya_r | okay,thanks! | 13:13 |
meygahmann | hi everyone =) just installed, is there a way to launch apps from a search | 13:35 |
ouroumov_ | Yes | 13:35 |
ouroumov_ | Head over to MATE Tweak | 13:35 |
meygahmann | ok | 13:35 |
ouroumov_ | Under "Interface" | 13:35 |
ouroumov_ | Check "Enable Launcher" | 13:35 |
ouroumov_ | You'll notice a new indicator in the top right corner | 13:35 |
ouroumov_ | This is Synapse | 13:36 |
meygahmann | i dont have enable launcher | 13:36 |
acharya_r | ouromov_, it didn't work. | 13:36 |
ouroumov_ | MATE Tweak -> Interface -> Panel Features | 13:36 |
meygahmann | i have version 15.10 if it helps | 13:36 |
ouroumov_ | Oh | 13:36 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, why did you install that one? :) | 13:36 |
meygahmann | because i have amd radeon 8xxx | 13:37 |
ouroumov_ | acharya_r, you've run the fixes, then made an update? | 13:37 |
acharya_r | none of the apt-get or apt commands are working. Not even sudo apt-get install update. | 13:37 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, ok | 13:37 |
meygahmann | can i still use that keyboard launcher ouroumov? | 13:38 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, plan B then | 13:38 |
acharya_r | I ran the fixes but the update command threw the same error. | 13:38 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, I'm not sure | 13:38 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, it's called "Synapse" | 13:38 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, check in the software boutique if you can set it up there | 13:38 |
meygahmann | wheres the software boutique, srry i'm really new hehe | 13:38 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, there's an alternate way though | 13:39 |
ouroumov_ | (I think) | 13:39 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, try the following: | 13:39 |
ouroumov_ | Right click on a free space in the top panel | 13:39 |
ouroumov_ | Select Add to panel | 13:40 |
ouroumov_ | Then pick the thing called "MATE menu" | 13:40 |
meygahmann | oky | 13:40 |
ouroumov_ | You can trigger the menu (which has a search box that is auto-focused) using the shortcut Super+Space | 13:40 |
ouroumov_ | (Super is the key with the freaking windows logo usually) | 13:41 |
meygahmann | yeah ive been using that but its not exactly what i want | 13:41 |
ouroumov_ | erf | 13:41 |
ouroumov_ | What exactly do you want then? | 13:41 |
meygahmann | i want something where a little box pops up and i type, and it finds, then launches when i hit tenter | 13:41 |
meygahmann | i used kubuntu in 2010 and it had it | 13:42 |
meygahmann | i searched for "synapse" in synaptic package manager and i found 3 things | 13:42 |
meygahmann | can i install from there? | 13:42 |
meygahmann | there is synapse, synapse-dbg | 13:43 |
ouroumov_ | So, try and install Synapse (warning: I've no idea if it works in 15.10) | 13:43 |
ouroumov_ | synapse fires with CTRL+Space I think | 13:44 |
meygahmann | i'm trying to find an install button and cant lol | 13:44 |
ouroumov_ | you can try and type in a terminal: sudo apt install synapse | 13:45 |
meygahmann | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) | 13:46 |
meygahmann | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? | 13:46 |
meygahmann | ^ when i tried to use terminal | 13:46 |
ouroumov_ | You have to close synaptic before typing the command | 13:47 |
acharya_r | ouromov_, sudo apt isn't working | 13:47 |
ouroumov_ | acharya_r, do you have a specific error message? | 13:47 |
acharya_r | unable to locate package <package_name> | 13:49 |
ouroumov_ | acharya_r, sudo apt update isn't working? | 13:49 |
meygahmann | yes this is exactly what i was looking for | 13:49 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, that was probably the same program in kde | 13:50 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, I take it it's working? | 13:50 |
meygahmann | yeah the only thing is have to launch it from the menu | 13:50 |
meygahmann | i just need to set it up so that i can launch synapse with a keyboard shortcut | 13:51 |
meygahmann | like cntrl+space | 13:51 |
ouroumov_ | open the synapse window | 13:51 |
ouroumov_ | Click the little bullet in the top right corner of that window | 13:51 |
ouroumov_ | You should get access to the preferences | 13:51 |
acharya_r | says the same for sudo apt-get install update as well. Unable to locate package update. | 13:52 |
ouroumov_ | acharya_r, please don't invent commands :) | 13:52 |
ouroumov_ | acharya_r, the correct command is: | 13:52 |
ouroumov_ | sudo apt update | 13:52 |
ouroumov_ | just that | 13:52 |
meygahmann | ok perfect i guess it was already set up that way | 13:53 |
meygahmann | awesome thanks ouroumov_ | 13:53 |
ouroumov_ | yw | 13:53 |
meygahmann | ouroumov do you ever use chrome? | 13:54 |
ouroumov_ | I have it installed, but I don't use it for anything else than reproducing bug reports | 13:54 |
ouroumov_ | Why? | 13:54 |
meygahmann | i installed it from the website and noticed it's buggy | 13:55 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, you should install it from the software boutique | 13:55 |
ouroumov_ | System -> Welcome -> Software | 13:55 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, what's buggy specifically? | 13:56 |
meygahmann | ok besides the settings thing some websites like zoho mail that i open in new tab will also just display blank pages | 13:57 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, can you please remove it and reinstall it from the software boutique? | 13:58 |
meygahmann | when i launch it from synapse it starts with a bunch of new tabs but they are not in the tab bar, there are a bunch of new tabs in boxes in the web page area | 13:58 |
meygahmann | how do i uninstall it? | 13:58 |
ouroumov_ | How did you install it? | 13:58 |
meygahmann | i went to chrome website and click on a link | 13:58 |
meygahmann | when i clicked on the link it brought up a little box on my screen where it downloaded and installed | 13:59 |
Akuli | meygahmann, sudo apt-get remove google-chrome-stable | 13:59 |
Akuli | meygahmann, then right-click a folder somewhere, choose 'open as administrator', go to /etc/apt/sources.list.d and remove any google stuff | 13:59 |
Akuli | meygahmann, then run sudo apt-get update, and chrome and the google repo it added are gone | 14:00 |
meygahmann | i cant get the 'open as administrator' | 14:01 |
meygahmann | i'm right clicking on home folder on desktop | 14:02 |
Akuli | meygahmann, in that case press Alt+F2 and type this: gksudo caja | 14:02 |
Akuli | did you already do the apt-get remove thing? | 14:02 |
meygahmann | yeah the apt-get remove thing worked and chrome is gone | 14:03 |
Akuli | good | 14:03 |
Akuli | now you have the google repository, lets remove that too :) | 14:03 |
meygahmann | ok i removed the one google file from /etc/apt/sources.list.d | 14:04 |
meygahmann | run sudo apt-get update now? | 14:05 |
meygahmann | then sudo apt-get chrome | 14:05 |
meygahmann | ? | 14:05 |
meygahmann | ok im not sure what to do now | 14:05 |
Akuli | did you remove the .save file too if you had one? | 14:06 |
Akuli | i guess you didn't, so run "sudo apt-get update" and you're done :) | 14:07 |
meygahmann | in that folder '/etc/apt/sources.list.d' there was only one file trash:///google-chrome.desktop | 14:07 |
meygahmann | or maybe thats the desktop shortcut i manually deleted | 14:08 |
meygahmann | anyways in that folder you pointed me to there was only one file and i deleted it | 14:08 |
meygahmann | ok im running 'sudo apt-get update' what is that anyways like a system update? | 14:10 |
meygahmann | it finished but i still dont have chrome | 14:10 |
Akuli | sudo apt-get update checks for updates | 14:12 |
Akuli | and also refreshes a bunch of stuff | 14:12 |
Akuli | sudo apt-get upgrade installs the updates that update has found | 14:12 |
meygahmann | ok i ran the update only, now what do i do? | 14:14 |
meygahmann | i still dont have chrome | 14:14 |
Akuli | you're done removing it :) | 14:14 |
meygahmann | ok great! :) thanks | 14:15 |
meygahmann | nonw i need to get it | 14:15 |
ouroumov_ | So go to the software boutique | 14:15 |
ouroumov_ | System -> Welcome -> Software | 14:15 |
meygahmann | i was uninstalling it because it was buggy and the other guy said it was because i donwloaded it from the chrome website | 14:15 |
ouroumov_ | No | 14:15 |
ouroumov_ | I said it might be because of that :] | 14:16 |
ouroumov_ | Actually I hinted at it ~~ | 14:16 |
ouroumov_ | Anyway | 14:16 |
meygahmann | yup yup | 14:16 |
ouroumov_ | In the software boutique there's a "Internet" icon | 14:16 |
ouroumov_ | Click there, you should see Google Chrome in the list | 14:17 |
meygahmann | cool im installing now | 14:17 |
meygahmann | got a pop up with a big red circle saying Failed to download repository information | 14:17 |
meygahmann | Check your Internet connection. | 14:17 |
ouroumov_ | okay | 14:18 |
meygahmann | W:Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file) | 14:18 |
meygahmann | , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. | 14:18 |
ouroumov_ | In the software boutique, last icon on the right, run the fixes | 14:18 |
ouroumov_ | Then try again | 14:18 |
ouroumov_ | Also, please tell me you haven't installed the 32 bits version of Ubuntu MATE. u_u | 14:19 |
acharya_r | ouromov_, got it. | 14:19 |
meygahmann | nope the 64 bit | 14:19 |
ouroumov_ | acharya_r, so you've got the greek language installed? | 14:19 |
acharya_r | greek language? I've got the update command running.Lol. | 14:20 |
ouroumov_ | alright | 14:20 |
meygahmann | i dont see a last icon the right to run fixes | 14:21 |
ouroumov_ | acharya_r, sorry I failed to remember while you were there xD | 14:21 |
ouroumov_ | acharya_r, I mistook you for someone with another problem that was here earlier | 14:21 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, should look like a wrench | 14:21 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, have you subscribed to Welcome Updates? | 14:22 |
meygahmann | nope | 14:22 |
acharya_r | ouromov_, it's okay. I have this weak WiFi issue as well. Could you possibly help me with that as well? | 14:22 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, please launch Welcome again: System -> Welcome and do tell if you have a check box in the top right corner | 14:22 |
ouroumov_ | acharya_r, do you know how to get infos on your card and driver? | 14:23 |
acharya_r | ouromov_,I'm hardly 3 feet away from the router and I get only 2 bars of signal strength. | 14:23 |
meygahmann | no check box in top right | 14:23 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, do you remember there ever being one? | 14:23 |
meygahmann | it looks the same from when i first installed mate | 14:24 |
ouroumov_ | damn | 14:24 |
ouroumov_ | So I guess the "Fixes" section wasn't there in 15.10 | 14:24 |
meygahmann | :( | 14:24 |
meygahmann | geez its only one version back | 14:24 |
ouroumov_ | Yes but things have been moving fast | 14:24 |
ouroumov_ | Actually, it's amazing how fast | 14:25 |
acharya_r | ouromov_, no. You had linked me to a forum the last time I had the same problem. Whatever was working, stopped working. | 14:25 |
ouroumov_ | acharya_r, that was the very long thread about some realtek card? | 14:25 |
acharya_r | Yes! | 14:25 |
acharya_r | I reinstalled the OS again. | 14:26 |
ouroumov_ | Did you go to the end of the thread? (Sorry I remember it was very long) | 14:26 |
ouroumov_ | So meygahmann | 14:27 |
meygahmann | yeah... | 14:27 |
ouroumov_ | I'm not sure what to do next u_u | 14:27 |
Akuli | meygahmann, are you sure you removed all google files there? | 14:28 |
meygahmann | well the folder is empty akuli | 14:28 |
acharya_r | ouromov_,I ran the commands suggested at the begining, as I was reading through, I had to reboot once. Did that and bam! No wifi indicator, didn't detect any of the available wifi(s). Had to re-setup everything. | 14:28 |
Akuli | meygahmann, run this and paste output here: nc termbin.com 9999 < /etc/apt/sources.list | 14:28 |
meygahmann | in terminal? | 14:29 |
Akuli | meygahmann, yes, in terminal | 14:29 |
meygahmann | ok | 14:29 |
meygahmann | oh wait | 14:29 |
meygahmann | i just checked that folder and that file is back | 14:30 |
Akuli | hmm | 14:30 |
meygahmann | its called google-chrome.list | 14:30 |
Akuli | remove it | 14:30 |
meygahmann | ok did it | 14:30 |
Akuli | removing the file and chrome has always been enough to me | 14:30 |
Akuli | now sudo apt-get update | 14:30 |
Akuli | and if it comes back again i have no idea what to do | 14:30 |
ouroumov_ | acharya_r, I seem to remember the first propositions on that thread weren't working for some users | 14:31 |
ouroumov_ | And only one of the last ones seemed to do the trick | 14:31 |
meygahmann | well the file is still gone | 14:32 |
meygahmann | ill try to install from the software boutiquee again | 14:33 |
meygahmann | it failed again and that file is back | 14:34 |
Akuli | so you want to install chrome? | 14:36 |
meygahmann | yeah | 14:36 |
Akuli | first get rid of it one last time :) | 14:36 |
Akuli | then try chromium: sudo apt-get install chromium | 14:36 |
Akuli | if you don't like chromium, download chrome like you did. | 14:36 |
Akuli | chrome is the only program that should be installed by downloading | 14:37 |
Akuli | on ubuntu | 14:37 |
meygahmann | cant i just do 'sudo apt install chrome' or something like that | 14:40 |
Akuli | no | 14:41 |
Akuli | chrome is not in the repos | 14:41 |
Akuli | But you can once you have downloaded it once :D | 14:41 |
Akuli | its actually really easy to download, im sure you've installed software on windows, it goes the exact same way :) | 14:42 |
Akuli | download the package, double-click it, click install :) | 14:42 |
meygahmann | ah yeah that what i did the first time | 14:42 |
Akuli | and you got the errors now, i know i know | 14:42 |
Akuli | google screwed up their repo, but they've fixed it now | 14:43 |
meygahmann | yeah i heard chrome doesnt like linux | 14:45 |
meygahmann | hey i have this hex chat opened in another desktop, how do i move it back to my main desktop | 14:46 |
meygahmann | nevermind figured it out | 14:47 |
acharya_r | can someone help me with this weak wifi reception issue? | 14:48 |
ouroumov_ | acharya_r, do you still have the thread handy? | 14:49 |
acharya_r | I'm afraid I lost it after I wiped my system. Wasn't logged in to sync the bookmark either. | 14:50 |
meygahmann | ok thanks for all the help akuli and ouromov_ have a nice day | 14:50 |
Akuli | meygahmann, if you have a 64-bit ubuntu which you likely do you can still download it, but a they dropped the 32-bit version | 14:50 |
Akuli | hmm | 14:50 |
Akuli | whatever :D | 14:51 |
ouroumov_ | so acharya_r let's find it again: open a terminal and type "inxi -N" | 14:53 |
acharya_r | Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter | 14:54 |
acharya_r | driver: rtl8723be | 14:54 |
acharya_r | Card-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller | 14:54 |
acharya_r | driver: r8169 | 14:54 |
ouroumov_ | okay | 14:54 |
acharya_r | :3 | 14:54 |
ouroumov_ | there we go: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2304607 | 14:54 |
meygahmann | oh heys guys i just wanted to say after i installed chrome from the website i went to the software boutique and now chrome shows options to remove and reinstall | 14:56 |
meygahmann | so i think its the same thing | 14:56 |
ouroumov_ | acharya_r, so apparently their fix is to recompile the driver | 14:56 |
ouroumov_ | acharya_r, that's not trivial | 14:56 |
ouroumov_ | meygahmann, okay thanks. Do you still have the same issue? | 14:57 |
meygahmann | the settings is working now | 14:57 |
ouroumov_ | Well, magic. | 14:57 |
ouroumov_ | When it happens, it's fun. =) | 14:58 |
meygahmann | and also when launching from synapse it does have all those new tabs either | 14:58 |
meygahmann | yeah :) | 14:58 |
meygahmann | its not having those buts anymore | 14:58 |
meygahmann | *bugs | 14:58 |
meygahmann | alright have good day :) | 14:58 |
acharya_r | ouromov_, no other workaround? | 14:59 |
ouroumov_ | Nope | 14:59 |
ouroumov_ | At least | 14:59 |
ouroumov_ | Not that I found | 14:59 |
ouroumov_ | I can guide you through the compile steps, but it'll take a while | 14:59 |
acharya_r | It'd be great if you did. Using it this way is a pain. | 15:02 |
ouroumov_ | Okay, you can connect through cable in the mean time? | 15:03 |
ouroumov_ | Anyway, start by typing "sudo apt install git" if you're reading me | 15:04 |
ouroumov_ | Then "sudo apt install ubuntu-make" | 15:04 |
acharya_r | Got no cable :/ | 15:04 |
acharya_r | should I still proceed? | 15:04 |
ouroumov_ | Yes | 15:04 |
ouroumov_ | You don't really have a choice anyway x) | 15:04 |
acharya_r | lol, I just hope I don't get stranded like last time without any WiFi at all. At least something is better than nothing :P | 15:05 |
ouroumov_ | What kind of machine is it btw? | 15:05 |
acharya_r | It's a laptop. Got a new one recently, hp pavillion notebook. | 15:07 |
ouroumov_ | oh btw I gotta leave to take my bus | 15:07 |
acharya_r | damn! | 15:07 |
ouroumov_ | I'll be back in something like 1H30 | 15:07 |
ouroumov_ | You'll be there? | 15:07 |
acharya_r | I'll try to be here then. | 15:07 |
ouroumov_ | alright | 15:08 |
ouroumov_ | cu soon | 15:08 |
acharya_r | Thanks anyway :D | 15:08 |
meygahmann | hi :) what desktoop does mate 15.10 use? | 15:26 |
Akuli | mate? | 15:26 |
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Akuli | by the way, the distribution is ubuntu mate, and the desktop environment is mate | 15:26 |
meygahmann | ubuntu mate | 15:26 |
meygahmann | oh | 15:26 |
Akuli | I have no idea why you would get 15.10 though | 15:27 |
Akuli | 16.04 is released | 15:27 |
meygahmann | because i have an radeon 8xxx gpu | 15:28 |
meygahmann | it came on my laptop | 15:28 |
meygahmann | i originall installed 16.04 but it was laggy | 15:28 |
meygahmann | then i found out theres issues with amd | 15:28 |
meygahmann | im just looking on synaptic package manger and they have stuff for gnome desktop and kde desktop and xfce but no mate | 15:31 |
meygahmann | also i clicked on more wallpapers and i got to website that has gtk2 themes gtk3 themes and gnome 3.x themes and gdm themes and i dont know which to use | 15:32 |
meygahmann | not sure what all this even means | 15:32 |
Akuli | use gtk 2 themes in mate | 15:39 |
Akuli | some apps run gtk 3, so if possible, choose a theme that supports both. | 15:39 |
Akuli | gdm themes are for gnome display manager, but ubuntu mate uses lightdm instead so you don't need gdm themes | 15:40 |
meygahmann | is there a way to see those pop ups that happen after things like installing software incase you couldnt finish reading them? | 16:02 |
meygahmann | i installed syncthing from the welcome screen but can't find it anywhere | 16:07 |
minecraft-kid | hello | 16:29 |
nomic | hello | 16:30 |
ouroumov | hello minecraft-kid | 16:38 |
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Langley | Hi, my laptop dims the screen after being idle for like 10 seconds even though I disabled it in Power options, what do I do | 18:24 |
Langley | Running 16.04 | 18:25 |
Langley | Nevermind think I fixed it by enabling and disabling it again | 18:26 |
schischa | hi com.. im super new to linux (ubuntu mate).. but im afraid my pc wont "see" my amd r7 370 :( can someone help plz? or is it just that i have to w8 for a newer amd/ati driver ? | 18:27 |
Langley | Nevermind again it still does it, after a minute or so | 18:27 |
Langley | schischa, what do you mean "see"? | 18:28 |
Langley | That it cant use it at all? | 18:28 |
schischa | hm i dont know^ | 18:28 |
schischa | but.. | 18:29 |
schischa | if i check the hardware info.. it just says i have a amd a107850k but never says anything about my graphicscard | 18:29 |
Langley | But you've plugged your monitor to the R7, right? Then it should be fine | 18:30 |
schischa | y right into r7 370 via hdmi.. but im not sure if this will work with the "full" performance of it.. :D | 18:31 |
Langley | As long as you can run the full resolution of your screen, it should work 100%. But if you want more performance you might want the AMD driver instead, though I don't know if it's supported in Ubuntu anymore | 18:33 |
schischa | hm.. last thing i just read in a paper was.. that amd has no updated driver for ubuntu at the moment.. but might have it after there new cards (polaris) comes in maybe next month ^^ | 18:34 |
schischa | other question: how can i make a "desktop" shortcut? | 18:40 |
Langley | A what..? | 18:41 |
schischa | ok i got it :) | 18:47 |
Andassaran | I know my issue might be something 'easy' to fix... but I'm on Ubuntu MATE 16.04 using the Mutiny layout, and I wish to disable the inbuilt window preview list in favor of the compiz thumbnails. I just can't find anywhere on how to disable that | 19:57 |
Andassaran | https://goo.gl/photos/Drq7F7c2hEpfNhRA9 <-- I want to disable those in favor of the ones in compiz | 19:58 |
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Guest79133 | Hi, I have many audio issues I can't figure out. (My fault I installed web8update multi band) and now I can't get any audio back. can I re-install without loosing my home directory? I do have all my partitions separated correctly | 21:35 |
Guest79133 | so in short will I be ok to install again and not loose my data? | 21:38 |
meygahmann | hello there :) | 23:06 |
meygahmann | my laptop battery is draining really fast is there a way to extend it | 23:15 |
nomic | maybe the battery is at end of life | 23:30 |
nomic | there is power settings on mate | 23:30 |
meygahmann | yeah i looked at that | 23:30 |
nomic | screen dimmer | 23:30 |
meygahmann | does ubuntu mate support google drive like windows does | 23:52 |
meygahmann | i mean can synch your file explorer with your google drive account | 23:53 |
meygahmann | like windows google drive sync | 23:53 |
* nomic woulda liked a drive (cloud), as volume | 23:53 | |
nomic | mounted | 23:53 |
santo | hola | 23:59 |
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