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Guest48812I ve a usb stick that suddenly stopped working , it doesnt show up at all , what can i do ?????00:00
Guest48812I ve a usb stick that suddenly stopped working , it doesnt show up at all , what can i do ?????00:02
reisioGuest48812: /nick usbguy00:03
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warren_I was wondering if anyone here could help me with a wifi issue, I've been searching for days and can't find a work around for whats going on that I think should be pretty simple but I haven't used linux in years so a bit rusty :)00:09
bazhang!ask | warren_00:09
ubottuwarren_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:09
warren_ok thanks, I loose wifi after suspend. My hw shuts off and I can turn it back on manually but the wifi stays disabled.00:11
warren_I've found nmcli nm -sleep off or something like that is supposed to fix it but nmcli nm isn't anything00:12
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warren_I've also tried a bunch of scripts claiming to fix it but it hasn't helped or made matters worse00:14
warren_so my first question would be why if nmcli shows wifi-hw enabled would wifi be disabled?00:15
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xanguawarren_: is this a dual boot system?00:20
irregularhi guys, I connected my laptop to a second monitor (worked fine) but when I went home and turned it on without a second monitor I can't access the windows that were on the second monitor now00:24
irregularOn windows I can do Win button + right or left arrow key to move the window onto the laptop screen00:25
irregularis there something similar I can do for ubuntu?00:25
danmulveyctrl+alt+shift+arrow moves windows between workspaces00:25
Ben64right click it on the taskbar and select "Move" ?00:25
irregulardanmulvey:I think I'm only on 1 workspace, ctrl alt shoft arrow isn't moving it00:26
irregularBen64:can't seem to right click the taskbar00:27
danmulveyirregular: you could try enabling workspaces in your settings, then move it to a different workspace and back, see if that shifts it over00:28
danmulveyactually, if you go in your display settings, does it stil show both displays?00:28
danmulveymaybe you need to disable the second display, or try re-enabling the laptop's display and see if that works00:29
danmulveyive had similar problems before, trying to remember what worked for me haha00:29
Ben64alt+f7 ?00:29
danmulveyctrl+alt+arrow moves between workspaces (without moving the window with you) just fyi if you do enable them00:30
irregulardanmulvey:clicked System Settings, laptop froze for a second readjusting everything and I'm back in business!00:30
Ben64alt+spacebar+m ?00:30
irregularthanks guys!00:30
danmulveyawesome!00:31
danmulveyyeah ive noticed in my experience sometimes all it takes is just refreshing the current setup00:31
danmulveyof course i usually end up doing that after several hours trying different things, looking around online and in here, etc etc00:31
Noruxis there a good program to put music on my ipod?00:36
dreamaddictok, I tried to get source for my lib, using apt-get source <lib>...however, it says I must have source URIs in my source.list file.  OK, then I opened that up and it has some "deb-src" links that are commented out, one for each "deb" entry.  Obviously, some of these have to be uncommented, but I can't tell which ones00:40
dreamaddictas in, how do I figure out which of the repositories in sources.list is the one that my lib came from00:40
uid1Hi. I'm running Kubuntu 16.04, just installed MySQL 5.7 and am trying to enable log_slow_queries but get this error:    unknown variable 'log_slow_queries=/var/log/mysql/slow-queries.log'00:41
dreamaddictapt list <lib> shows xenial,now 2.3.1-3 amd64 [Installed]00:41
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dreamaddictso then, which entry in sources.list do I uncomment?00:41
uid1I got that from uncommenting the default in /etc/mysql/mysql.conf.d/mysqld.cnf.00:41
uid1Turns out, it's not a valid option and MySQL won't start.00:42
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uid1Proper variable is "slow_query_log_file  = ..."00:42
tewarduid1: i'd file a bug noting that; even though it doesn't fix much at this opint for you, it'll help the future00:43
uid1teward: Yeah, was thinking the same thing.00:43
dreamaddictI guess I'll just uncomment all of the deb-src links and see what happens00:44
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winslow__Hi, all. Not sure if there's a better room to reach the team that handles Ubuntu cloud images, but `vagrant box add ubuntu/xenial64` is currently failing with a 404 when fetching the box.00:50
naccwinslow__: #ubuntu-server is probably more relevant, but: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-images/+bug/1569237 ?00:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1569237 in cloud-images "vagrant xenial box is not provided with vagrant/vagrant username and password" [Undecided,New]00:53
naccdunno much about vagrant00:53
OerHekshttps://vagrantcloud.com/ubuntu/boxes/xenial64/versions/20160608.0.000:54
winslow__nacc: Thanks for the suggestion, I'll drop a line there.00:54
Bashing-omdreamaddict: ' apt show <lib> ' .. will reflect in the file: line which repo the package is located in .00:55
winslow__OerHeks: yep, but vagrant itself throws a 404 when trying to fetch https://atlas.hashicorp.com/ubuntu/boxes/xenial64/versions/20160608.0.0/providers/virtualbox.box00:55
dreamaddictthere is no file line when I use apt show00:55
naccdreamaddict: i think `apt show <pkg> | grep APT-Sources` should work, but the cli is not a stable interface, so it may be better to pipe through less and read it00:57
naccdreamaddict: or use `apt-cache policy <pkgname>` to see where it's installed from00:57
dreamaddictoh there it is... :P00:57
dreamaddictit's in main00:57
dreamaddictjesus I'm bad at reading00:57
naccdreamaddict: just to be clear, that's not a repository, but a component00:57
dreamaddictright00:58
naccdreamaddict: it doesn't *hurt* anything to enable all deb-src lines, and if you're going to be downloading multiple source packages, it can simplify things. It will use up a bit more space in /var, but nothing significant on its own (and will slow down `apt-get update`, which is probably the biggest impact)00:58
dreamaddictalready did it, I'm reading it right now00:59
dreamaddictthe thing I forgot to do was, run apt-get update after I changed sources.list00:59
dreamaddictI thought, like, apt-get would read sources.list itself00:59
Bashing-omdream .. You are so right .. OK ' apt-cache show <lib> ' and look in the filename line . Here " Filename: pool/main/g/gedit/gedit_3.10.4-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb" gedit is in the main repo .01:00
Bashing-omdreamaddict: ^^01:00
naccBashing-om: interesting differnce between `apt show` and `apt-cache show`...01:01
dreamaddictsee, there's no Filename: line when I do 'apt show'01:01
naccdreamaddict: no, apt-get, that would slow down every installation01:01
dreamaddictI don't know why, exactly01:01
naccdreamaddict: right, apt vs. apt-cache01:01
Bashing-omnacc: Caught me by surprise, nacc ... That is need to know info .01:02
arlionHey everyone, I am running 16.04 with Nvidia drivers. I installed the latest version of the drivers and now my luks decryption screen and boot process look ugly01:06
arlionWhat processes should I be investigating to correct?01:06
clifferis there anybody running amavisd-new with dkim signing (without milter) (ideally running 16.04.) who can provide a config where submitted mail is signed? especially the config from /etc/amavis/conf.d/ where mynetworks is set. amavis does not recognize IPv6:::1] as local:01:07
clifferJun  9 03:03:02 mail amavis[25266]: (25266-01) rw_loop read 65 chars< 250 2.1.0 Ok\r\n250 2.1.5 Ok\r\n354 End data with <CR><LF>.<CR><LF>\r\n01:07
clifferJun  9 03:03:02 mail amavis[25266]: (25266-01) smtp resp to MAIL (pip): 250 2.1.0 Ok01:07
clifferJun  9 03:03:02 mail amavis[25266]: (25266-01) smtp resp to RCPT (pip) (<oliver.wittkopf@rwth-aachen.de>): 250 2.1.5 Ok01:07
clifferJun  9 03:03:02 mail amavis[25266]: (25266-01) smtp resp to DATA: 354 End data with <CR><LF>.<CR><LF>01:07
clifferomg excuse01:08
cliffers there anybody running amavisd-new with dkim signing (without milter) (ideally running 16.04.) who can provide a config where submitted mail is signed? especially the config from /etc/amavis/conf.d/ where mynetworks is set. amavis does not recognize IPv6:::1] as local: http://pastebin.com/aGXGMxfp01:08
bryce_Hi. I'm having some kind of x11 problem. How can I stop ubuntu from trying to start the gui every 5 seconds? It's making it impossible to troubleshoot with the console (which is working fine)01:09
arlionbryce_: you could start a tty session with x1101:09
arlionbryce_: try alt+f201:09
bryce_arlion, all the virtual consoles seem to be affected, it switches to the gui one (the one you get with alt-f7) when it tries to start the gui01:10
arlionsorry, ctrl+alt+f1 in ubuntu01:10
Jordan_Uarlion: Your boot screen is lower resolution now than when you had an older version of the proprietary nvidea drivers?01:10
bryce_so I only have about 2 seconds to look at whatever is on the virtual console before it switches away01:10
Jordan_Ubryce_: Boot into rescue mode from the grub menu.01:11
arlionJordan_U: I'm trying this for right now:01:12
arlionhttps://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/114901:12
bryce_Jordan_U, it still has the same problem when I try to start X in it, but good idea, at least it will let me work on the console. thanks01:12
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Jordan_Ubryce_: You're welcome. Probably also want to install openssh-server if you haven't already.01:19
irregularwhen I right click my terminal shortcut on taskbar (Launcher), it shows New Terminal Window. I've added an emacs shortcut to task bar but it doesn't say that and I can only open/minimize the currently opened emacs01:20
irregularhow do I open a new instance without terminal?01:20
hispeed67helloooooooozzzz. i just got a new (to me) computer. using studio 16.04. htop is showing one core at 100%, the other seven at 001:23
hispeed67is there something i need to do to enable dual processor?01:23
alexspassworldthis is going to sound insane and dumb in so many ways but i recently purchased the ubuntu phablet01:24
alexspassworldi cant remember its my name01:24
alexspassworldanyway i forgotten the passcode and there is NO hardware reset function01:24
alexspassworldits made by "bq!01:25
LtLhispeed67: try running 'top' and press 1, any difference?01:25
snfgfif i have example.com domain, if nameserver for .com domains has A record with my IP, why do i also need NS record?01:25
hispeed67yes01:26
snfgfwhy tho01:26
NuisanceHi folks.  How can I pull up something to verify that I am running xubuntu that I can display to the folks here so they know I'm not running chalet?01:26
LtLhispeed67: better?01:26
hispeed67no. cpu1= 100%, other 7 at 0%01:26
LtLhispeed67: man, strange01:27
alexspassworldits the aquarius m10 i believe01:27
alexspassworldsomekinda ubuntu project01:27
LtLi got nothing offhand01:27
hispeed67Nuisance, : cat /etc/os-release01:27
Bashing-om!password | alexspassworld01:28
ubottualexspassworld: Forgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords01:28
k1lNuisance: "lsb_release -a |nc termbin.com 9999"01:28
herzeleid26hola01:28
k1lalexspassworld: for ubuntu-touch related issues better ask in #ubuntu-touch01:29
alexspassworldBashing-om do you have the phablet cos theres no way in and no way out01:29
alexspassworldthanks01:29
Bashing-omalexspassworld: Also : http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword . You might find easier .01:29
Nuisancecat /etc/os-release NAME="Ubuntu" VERSION="16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus)" ID=ubuntu  I'm on the up and up now01:29
Bashing-omalexspassworld: No  I do not .. is this the Bios you are referrring to ?01:30
alexspassworldim just trying to get back into a locked pc01:31
Yuri4_Guys, how can I run some command automatically on every boot?01:31
squintyirregular,  file -> new frame01:31
nomicYuri4_ there is a setup of01:33
nomic"session and startup"01:33
nomicon your menu01:33
nomicena01:33
nomicenables you to put in commands/scripts01:33
Yuri4_nomic, I'm running Ubuntu Server01:34
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billsanderzardwar01:37
superguesthow do I create a iso on the commandline?01:40
DonkeyHoteihi. i installed the python-setuptools pkg on trusty, then used the easy_install cmd to grab a program that uses wxpython. now i get "ImportError: No module named wx"01:42
DonkeyHoteihow to fix?01:42
jacksonhi01:43
jacksonbye01:44
hhooeoI cant log in to ubuntu graphically , after i boot up i get a shel prompt , and ctl+alt+f7 doesnt work , it seems like it doesnt find lightdm or something, am now in a live cd can i fix it from here ????01:47
hhooeo?01:50
lethuhhooeo: which ubuntu version are you using?01:50
hhooeo15,1001:50
lethuhhooeo:  also, what graphics driver are you using if any, and post your kern log01:51
hhooeolethu ; how can i find my kernal log ?01:51
lethuhhooeo: /var/log/kern.log01:52
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hhooeoshould i enter the command in the live ubuntu terminal ?01:52
lethuhhooeo: the command should be "nano /var/log/kern.log"01:53
lethuhhooeo: and yest in the terminal01:53
lethuyes*01:53
lethuhhooeo:  in your affected system's terminal01:54
lethuhhooeo: either that or mount your affected system then look for the log there01:55
gg5gHello01:56
gg5gGuys, I have a problem01:56
lethugg5g: Hi01:56
lethugg5g: please describe your issue01:56
gg5gFOr some reason, my linux is fairly laggy when scrolling with the mouse01:56
gg5gas well as typing01:56
gg5gIts not smooth, its choppy01:56
lethugg5g: enter "top" in the terminal, and see if any process is eating all the cpu time01:57
lethugg5g: fresh install?01:57
hhooeolethu ; I found two files kern.log and kern.log1, which one ?01:57
lethuhhooeo: the first one01:58
gg5gyes01:58
hhooeolethu; how do i upload it to you ?01:58
gg5gI just installed it01:58
gg5gI only installed skype01:58
gg5gthere are two "root"01:59
gg5gone is using 26%01:59
gg5gthe other us 30%01:59
Ben64gg5g: look at the "command" column, not user01:59
lethuhhooeo: paste.ubuntu.com01:59
gg5gmdwwebkit02:00
DonkeyHoteihi. i installed the python-setuptools pkg on trusty, then used the easy_install cmd to grab a program that uses wxpython. now i get "ImportError: No module named wx"02:00
DonkeyHoteihow to fix?02:00
Ben64gg5g: you're on mint?02:00
lordcirthDonkeyHotei, sudo apt-get install python-wxtools02:00
gg5gyes but I was told it is the same commands02:00
Ben64gg5g: mint isn't supported in this channel, you need to go to #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org02:00
DonkeyHoteilordcirth: tried that, no effect02:01
lordcirthDonkeyHotei, did it install, but no change?  or was it already installed?02:01
DonkeyHoteiinstalled but no change02:01
hhooeolethu: the file is too big it has 21 gb see http://imgur.com/JPCtpnK02:01
lethuhhooeo: past the last boot up lines02:02
lordcirthlethu, hhooeo Are you on 15.04 or later?02:03
hhooeolordcirth ; yes i guess02:03
lordcirthhhooeo, " journalctl -b " will print logs since the last boot.02:04
lordcirthWhich should hopefully be of a more reasonable size02:05
NightHwkDoes anyone know how to fix network problem. I was on ubuntu 15.10 and could access my share drive fine on anther computer but once I upgraded to 16.10 it won't take the network credentials02:05
DonkeyHoteilordcirth: i googled, and apparently this usually happens when python is both locally installed and from repo but i did no such thing02:05
lordcirthDonkeyHotei, are you sure that easy_install didn't install wx as a dependency, when you already had it?02:06
DonkeyHoteilordcirth: i looked in usr/local and i don't see wx there02:06
atsalgue ae02:07
hhooeolordcirth ; how can i pastebin it s too huge , i cant get to the last line ?02:10
lordcirthhhooeo, even journalctl -b is too big?02:10
hhooeolordcirth ; yes !02:11
user1997ola!02:11
Ben64hhooeo: tail -n50 file02:12
Ben64will get the last 50 lines, paste.ubuntu.com those02:12
user1997???02:12
lordcirthBen64, that will work but it will take a long time to run02:13
somsip!ot | user199702:13
ubottuuser1997: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:13
Ben64lordcirth: no it won't02:13
hhooeoBen64 : is the command "tail -n50 file" ??02:14
Ben64hhooeo: replace file with the actual file you want to get the lines from02:14
lordcirthI thought tail read as a stream?  I guess not with files02:14
Ben64took my system 12.841s to get the last line from a 224GB disk image02:15
lordcirthOh.  That's cool02:15
Ben64yeah, just don't do cat file | tail02:15
lordcirthI wonder why it would take even that long... One would think it would either jump to the end and be instant, or read the whole thing and take forever... Why 12s?02:16
Ben64well the "line" was pretty long, it's not text02:16
lordcirthah ok.02:16
hhooeoBend64 ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/17135481/02:17
lordcirthSo it would jump to the end, and read backwards until it gets 50 \n characters?02:17
hhooeolordcirth; http://paste.ubuntu.com/17135481/02:17
Ben64maybe, not sure the actual mechanics behind it02:17
hhooeolethu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17135481/02:17
Ben64not sure what the problem is here, or why kern.log is so big, or what we're looking for02:18
lordcirthWell, it seems to be trying to mount sda2, as every filesystem in the book, over and over.02:18
usuariohola02:18
lordcirthThat's a bit strange.02:18
lordcirthusuario, hi02:18
usuariohi02:19
hhooeolordcirth ; I tried boot-repair from live cd it didnt fix the problem02:19
lordcirthhhooeo, well no, you're booting fine, it's your graphics that aren't working.02:20
lordcirthhhooeo, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  And tell us what graphics card & driver you are using.02:21
hhooeolordcirth ; Exactly02:21
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hhooeolordcirth; http://paste.ubuntu.com/17135587/02:24
userrwhat ubuntu are you talk02:25
DonkeyHoteilordcirth: my wifi flaked. did i miss something?02:25
Bashing-omlordcirth: hhooeo "02:25
userrah ok02:26
lordcirthDonkeyHotei, nope02:26
yoLo_my ubuntu is stuck at /dev/sda1 : clean, xxxxxx/xxxxxx files, ... xxxxxx/xxxxxx blocks02:26
yoLo_Is there anyway i can fix this ?02:26
lordcirthBashing-om, ?02:26
Bashing-omlordcirth: hhooeo " (sda2): unable to read superblock " Should not the file system be checked .. and maybe spare that super block off ?02:26
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yoLo_I have checked only for a solution but i haven't found any solution in resolving the issue. can any one help ?02:27
lordcirthBashing-om, it's trying to mount sda2 as a ton of different things, but I suppose fsck is worth a shot02:27
lordcirthhhooeo, fsck /dev/sda202:27
lordcirthunmount it first02:27
lordcirthyoLo_, this is on boot?02:28
yoLo_lordcirth: yes02:28
lordcirthyoLo_, what Ubuntu version, and have you installed it or updated recently?02:29
OerHeks!fsck02:30
ubottufsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo touch /forcefsck && sudo shutdown -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot02:30
userrreset machine may be good, excuse me, i say router02:31
yoLo_lordcirth: 16.0402:31
yoLo_I just installed it02:31
lordcirthyoLo_, ok, so this is straight from the install?  What graphics do you have?02:31
yoLo_lordcirth: yes, i installed it on a netbook Intel GMA 95002:33
glassnot a ubuntu question but as i have received alot of help from this channel maybe i can sneak this in02:33
yoLo_graphics card Intel GMA 95002:34
glassi have my very first interview tomorrow with www.mgbsys.com/ what should i study up on before my interview tomorrow02:34
somsipglass: so very very offtopic02:34
OerHeksglass, study: keep on topic.02:34
lordcirthyoLo_, can you get a terminal by hitting Ctrl-Alt-F2 ?02:34
glassbasically yes02:34
somsipglass: so, not here.02:34
glassright on thanks02:34
userrregards, see you02:36
yoLo_lordcirth: when i hit that terminal appears but as soon as i release the Ctrl+Alt-F2 it goes back to that same screen02:38
lordcirthyoLo_, well that's interesting02:38
yoLo_weird02:38
dbz2kwhats the best way to update qt?02:40
dbz2kone of my apps need it02:40
DonkeyHoteihi. i installed the python-setuptools pkg on trusty, then used the easy_install cmd to grab a program that uses wxpython. now i get "ImportError: No module named wx"02:40
lordcirthyoLo_, do you know how to use chroot?02:40
DonkeyHoteihow to fix?02:40
somsipDonkeyHotei: what version do you need, what version of ubuntu are you running?02:41
somsipdbz2k: ^^ (not DonkeyHotei , sorry)02:41
dbz2ksomsip, Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x40807) with this library (version 0x40806)02:42
yoLo_lordcirth: yes i know02:42
somsipdbz2k: that doesnt answer either of my questions02:42
yoLo_but i just can't get rid of the stucked screen02:43
dbz2ksomsip, I am running ubuntu 16.04 srry02:43
yoLo_i can't even get into terminal02:43
hhooeolordcirth ; sorry i went away , here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/17135886/02:43
somsip!info qt5 | dbz2k02:43
lordcirthyoLo_, boot off the installer, chroot into the installed system, and 'apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg'02:43
ubottudbz2k: Package qt5 does not exist in xenial02:44
somsip!info libqt5-core | dbz2k02:44
ubottudbz2k: Package libqt5-core does not exist in xenial02:44
yoLo_lordcirth: do i require the installation CD ?02:44
somsip!info libqt4-core | dbz2k02:44
ubottudbz2k: Package libqt4-core does not exist in xenial02:44
lordcirthyoLo_, yes, boot off that to get a working OS, so you can chroot into the hard drive and fix it02:45
yoLo_ohh i see02:45
yoLo_wait02:45
somsipdbz2k: so that's failing badly. You need to find out what you need, but it may be that this has something you need http://askubuntu.com/questions/766615/how-to-install-libqt4-core-and-libqt4-gui-on-ubuntu-16-0402:45
hhooeolordcirth ;?02:45
posiHey guys. What's the right way to disable core dumps and oom?02:46
somsip!info libqt5-default | dbz2k02:46
ubottudbz2k: Package libqt5-default does not exist in xenial02:46
lordcirthhhooeo, can you please do 'LANG='C' fsck /dev/sda2' so it runs in english?02:46
nneulis it expected/known that vagrant images for xenial are not available at the moment on the cloud-images site?02:46
hhooeolordcirth ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/17135972/02:48
lordcirthhhooeo, 'lsblk; df -h'02:48
winslow___nneul: I asked that earlier as well. Not sure if it's been reported correctly or being worked on02:48
winslow___Uncertain if I should file a bug or not.02:49
hhooeolordcirth : http://paste.ubuntu.com/17135996/02:49
dbz2ksomsip, is there a way to know which version a qt app needs? I know it need newer but app is a niche thing so there isnt much on web about it02:49
somsipdbz2k: what app is it?02:49
mundus2018HELP02:49
somsip!details | mundus201802:50
ubottumundus2018: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.02:50
nneulJust bad timing on my part to start looking at vagrant right when that stuff is broken... :(02:50
mundus2018I F***ED UP02:50
mundus2018ment chown -R user:user ../opt02:50
mundus2018did ment chown -R user:user ../02:50
dbz2ksomsip,02:50
mundus2018* did chown -R user:user ../opt02:50
dbz2khttps://www.toontownrewritten.com/02:50
mundus2018oops02:50
mundus2018anyway02:50
dbz2kno source code02:50
mundus2018I chaned perms on /02:50
mundus2018and idk how to fix02:50
hispeed67when i compile, shouldn't it use all 8 cores?02:50
Ben64mundus2018: reinstall02:51
mundus2018I cant02:51
Ben64wait, did you use sudo02:51
mundus2018no02:51
somsipdbz2k: no idea, and the help isn't helpful without accepting things I'm not prepared to accept.02:51
Ben64then everything should be fine02:51
mundus2018But it changed perms on the sudoers file02:51
Ben64it can't unless you used sudo02:52
mundus2018I didnt02:52
nneulor were already running as root.02:52
dbz2ksomsip, I thought ubuntu has qt5 right?02:52
mundus2018I was running as user02:52
Ben64then everything should be fine02:52
lordcirthhhooeo, are you running off a liveUSB?02:52
mundus2018its not02:52
Bashing-omlordcirth: hhooeo Raid array ? ANd the array is not assembled ???02:52
Ben64mundus2018: ls -l /etc/sudoers02:53
mundus2018I booted into a livecd02:53
lordcirthBashing-om, if you look at his most recent paste, there is a /dev/sda1 and a /dev/sda5 but no /dev/sda2 that it's trying to mount?02:53
Ben64mundus2018: ls -l /path/to/where/you/mounted/your/root/partition/etc/sudoers02:53
hhooeolordcirth; yes i am thats how am accessing this channel !02:53
nneulwhat livecd did you use - some of them have a tendency of only using root logins.02:54
hhooeoBashing-om; meaning ?02:54
somsipdbz2k: I believed so. This will show you everything "qt" that's installed dpkg --get-selections | grep qt02:54
Bashing-omlordcirth: Yeah ,,that is strange .. fstab ?02:54
mundus2018Which option do I choose?02:54
Grorcohi after suspend my hardware key for wireless quits working any ideas?02:54
lordcirthhhooeo, so what device is the lubuntu install?02:54
lordcirthBashing-om, yes, I was about to ask02:54
mundus2018"Boot into first harddrisk"02:54
Ben64mundus2018: you said you were booted into a livecd02:55
lordcirthhhooeo, pastebin /etc/fstab from the hard drive02:55
mundus2018Rescue a broken system?02:55
mundus2018im guessing that02:55
hhooeolordcirth; the same device i am running live lubuntu02:55
lordcirthhhooeo, no, the hard drive install, that is broken02:56
nneulusing a livecd and then choosing "boot into first hard disk" is only going to help you with grub issues.02:56
nneulI would second the recommendation to reinstall - however, you CAN recover from this, it's just going to be messy, and you'll have lingering issues.02:57
mundus2018How bout02:57
mundus2018for d in * ; do if [ -d ${d} ] ; chmod u+rwx,og+rx-w ${d}; fi02:57
mundus2018chmod og= root lost+found # more restrictive permissions02:57
reisio... :/02:57
hhooeolordcirth ; /etc/fstab "  gives me  " bash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied  ??02:57
hispeed67where do i set -j 8 as a default for gcc?02:57
Ben64mundus2018: how about you paste what i asked for first02:57
lordcirthhhooeo, are you trying to run it?  It's a text file, I want the contents02:58
mundus2018im still trying to boot02:58
hispeed67or how do i set the number of threads when i do 'make'02:58
lurkhow do I find a package in ubuntu, is there an aur?02:58
mundus2018I booted into resue a broken system02:58
lordcirthlurk, you are coming from Arch?02:58
lurklordcirth: ya02:59
lurkbut it's good I found it my bad (was already installed)02:59
lordcirthlurk, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta02:59
lordcirth^ compares all package manager commands02:59
lurk<302:59
mundus2018Idk what one it is03:00
mundus2018http://imgur.com/yVZmXoK03:00
lordcirthhispeed67, when you call make yourself, -j 8 works.  Do you mean how to do it when other things call 'make'?03:00
mundus2018(Hostname is root, person who installed accidently put that as the hostname)03:01
nneulyou most likely have the correct one selected.03:01
hhooeolordcirth : it gives me a message promp " the specified folder is not valid03:01
lordcirthhhooeo, cd to the directory that is the hard drive install.  Then 'pastebinit /etc/fstab'03:02
mundus2018its frozen at a purple screen03:03
mundus2018nvm03:04
lordcirthmundus2018, it may take a minute.03:04
mundus2018its a shell03:04
mundus2018ok that was right03:05
hhooeolordcirth ; http://imgur.com/fC2LtEq03:05
mundus2018what do I do03:05
lordcirthhhooeo, use terminal03:05
mundus2018the sudereros file is03:07
witeshark43hey i need some advice03:07
witeshark43seriously03:08
lordcirth!help | witeshark4303:08
ubottuwiteshark43: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:08
mundus2018-r--r----- user03:08
DonkeyHoteihi. i installed the python-setuptools pkg on trusty, then used the easy_install cmd to grab a program that uses wxpython. now i get "ImportError: No module named wx"03:08
DonkeyHoteihow to fix?03:08
Grorcosorry sys freeze03:08
lordcirthmundus2018, that is correct for sudoers03:08
mundus2018apperently not03:09
hhooeolordcirth ; it doesnt work from the terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/17136310/03:09
lordcirthmundus2018, oh wait, owned by "user"?03:09
witeshark43it's nothing really - and accidentally in the wrong channel - how do I stick the Dell logo back on my laptop?03:09
mundus2018yea03:09
dandvWhen I open a .deb file with Ubuntu Software and try to install it, nothing happens. What's going on? Here's a screencast: http://i.imgur.com/hSyEd9Z.gifv03:09
yoLo_lordcirth: this whole thing is just messed up.. this netbook just doesn't work..03:09
lordcirthmundus2018, sorry, -r--r----- is correct, but it should be owned root:root03:09
mundus2018dandv dpkg -i /path/to/file03:09
Grorcoso is there anyway to reactivate a hw wifi key that stops working after suspend03:10
lordcirthyoLo_, did installing the intel drivers not help?03:10
Bashing-omhhooeo: ' sudo mkdir /mnt/look ; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/look ; cat mnt/look/etc/fstab | pastebinit ' when done undo what you id with ' sudo umount /mnt/look ' .03:10
mundus2018will this work03:10
mundus2018for d in * ; do if [ -d ${d} ] ; chmod u+rwx,og+rx-w ${d}; fi03:10
yoLo_I have tried running to boot from installer bu it doesn't boot03:10
dandvmundus2018: I know about dpkg -i, but even that won't install dependencies automatically. WTF.03:10
yoLo_lordcirth: CD spins.. HDD lights blinking but nothing displays03:10
yoLo_then CD stops spinning .. no activity.03:11
lordcirthhhooeo, you can't "change directory" to something that isn't a directory.03:11
yoLo_when i hit power cd starts spining and then initiates shutdown03:11
yoLo_its probably has something to do with my intel atom03:11
lordcirthhhooeo, just call pastebinit with the whole path, if you want03:12
yoLo_nothing works except puppy linux but i hate it..03:12
lordcirthyoLo_, didn't you use the installer in the first place?03:12
yoLo_and windows works but it will run very slow03:12
yoLo_yes i did03:12
lordcirthyoLo_, puppy uses Vesa graphics, that is probably why.03:12
hispeed67where do i set that -j 8 for compiling to use all my cores?03:13
lordcirthhispeed67, it depends on what tool is doing the compiling03:13
hispeed67hmmm.. 'make'?03:13
yoLo_anyways.. due bedtime03:13
yoLo_thanks for the help lordcirth03:13
lordcirthyoLo_, np.  If you can get those drivers installed, I bet it will work.03:14
yoLo_my netbook is 8years old.. its just a joke now03:14
yoLo_i will keep trying03:14
lordcirthyoLo_, boot puppy linux and chroot from there, if that works03:14
yoLo_puppy uses ppm, no sudo no apt-get and pretty much everything in the repo is totally out dated03:15
ines_ubuntuhello! anyone have an idea about how can i install xamarin studio on ubuntu if it's able03:16
lordcirthyoLo_, it doesn't matter, that's what the chroot is for03:16
yoLo_alright anyways i will try doing this another time.. right now i'm just too exhausted03:17
yoLo_lordcirth: thanks03:17
hhooeolordcirth: sorry, here http://paste.ubuntu.com/17136412/03:17
DonkeyHoteilordcirth: any further ideas?03:18
lordcirthhhooeo, that looks like your livecd fstab03:18
ines_ubuntuhello!03:18
lordcirth!patience | ines_ubuntu03:19
ubottuines_ubuntu: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/03:19
hhooeolordcirth; because i am not in the directory of the install03:19
lordcirthhhooeo, well, I asked for the installed fstab.03:20
hhooeolordcirth : do i need to reboot and go to shell , cant i do it from this live lubuntu ?03:21
lordcirthhhooeo, there is no reason you can't do it from the livecd03:21
lordcirthJust go into the hard drive partition and get it03:21
lordcirthhhooeo, ' pastebinit /media/lubuntu/af74cae9-a31e-4eaf-8e8c-c601f0962d12/etc/fstab'03:22
mundus2018When I do for "d in * ; do if [ -d ${d} ] ; chmod u+rwx,og+rx-w ${d}; fi" I get this error "/bin/sh: 7: Syntax Error: "fi" unexpected (expecting "then")"03:22
hhooeolordcirth: am sorry , here is it the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/17136466/03:23
somsipmundus2018: missing a then will give that error03:23
mundus2018Im trying to follow this03:24
mundus2018http://superuser.com/questions/563287/fix-a-permission-disaster-ubuntu-linux-in-directory03:24
mundus2018thats the exact command03:24
lordcirthhhooeo, that's the one03:24
hhooeolordcirth: what does it say ?03:24
mundus2018is this correct? --- d in * ; do if [ -d ${d} ] ; chmod u+rwx,og+rx-w ${d}; then fi03:25
lordcirthhhooeo, read it yourself :P03:25
lordcirthhhooeo, fstab tells the OS what partitions to mount03:25
lordcirthhhooeo, there is nothing there about /dev/sda2, which is weird because the logs showed the kernel was trying to mount /dev/sda203:26
lordcirthhhooeo, now, your original problem was that it said something about missing lightdm, is that correct?03:27
somsipmundus2018: that script looks like it's missing a then and a done to me, but I'm no bash expert03:27
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jackcomhow can i install wireshark?03:27
hhooeolordcirth ; yes , but i can reboot to get the exact words of the errors03:28
reisiojackcom: apt-get?03:28
mundus2018jackcom, https://launchpad.net/~wireshark-dev/+archive/ubuntu/stable03:28
somsip!info wireshark | jackcom03:28
ubottujackcom: wireshark (source: wireshark): network traffic analyzer - meta-package. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2+ga16e22e-1 (xenial), package size 5 kB, installed size 57 kB03:28
reisiojackcom: it's in the 'universe' repo03:28
jackcomsudo apt install wireshark-qt03:29
mundus2018Add the ppa then apt get install wireshark-common03:29
lordcirthhhooeo, if it's missing a package, you should be able to just install it from the command line you get.03:29
jackcom?03:29
coffinyohttp://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=wireshark&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all03:29
jackcomsudo apt install wireshark-qt ?03:29
jackcomyes?03:29
somsipmundus2018: ppas should only be recommended with the caveat that they are unsupported03:29
lordcirthjackcom, -qt or -gtk, as you like03:29
hhooeolordcirth: would u prefer me to reboot and get the errors shown ?03:30
hhooeolordcirth; yes but I need to know which package !03:30
lordcirthhhooeo, it would be easier for you to install the packages from the command line anyway.  I will be leaving soon anyway03:30
jackcomthanks lordcirth03:30
lordcirthhhooeo, well, did it say lightdm?  Then lightdm.03:30
hhooeolordcirth :; yes03:31
lordcirthhhooeo, also keep in mind you can install irssi or weechat to use IRC from console.03:31
hhooeolordcirth ; should i install lightdm maybe ?03:31
hhooeolordcirth; is there a program like boot-repair that can fix this kind of problem?03:33
lordcirthhhooeo, try running 'startx' from the console.  installing lightdm may be the fix whether or not that works03:33
lordcirthhhooeo, no, this is not a boot problem.03:33
Ben64don't try running startx03:33
lordcirthBen64, why not?03:33
Ben64it's not the proper way to do anything in ubuntu03:33
lordcirthOk, disregard that then03:33
hhooeolordcirth>; what startx does exactly03:34
lordcirthhhooeo, it tries to start your desktop directly.  But apparently you're not supposed to do that in Ubuntu, so don't.03:34
mundus2018How do I fix this?03:35
mundus2018for d in * ; do if [ -d ${d} ] ; chmod u+rwx,og+rx-w ${d}; fi03:35
Ben64mundus2018: reinstall03:35
rc34hello03:35
mundus2018Its not an option Ben6403:35
hhooeolordcirth; why i cant in ubuntu if it would fix it ??03:35
Ben64mundus2018: then you should be more careful with how you use sudo/root03:35
mundus2018I wasnt in sudo or root03:35
lordcirthhhooeo, well, it probably wouldn't, apparently.  I am used to using it in other distros03:35
Ben64mundus2018: you were, or you couldn't have changed the owner of /etc/sudoers03:35
mundus2018I guarentee I wasnt in sudo03:36
mundus2018or root03:36
mundus2018I was under the user03:36
xboxHi03:36
Ben64i guarantee you you can't change the file without root or sudo03:36
lordcirthmundus2018, it is literally impossible to chown /etc/sudoers unless you are root.03:36
z999_hi how do i change the repositories in the latest install03:36
xboxall of us is connected on xbox ?03:36
mundus2018well litterly I was under the user03:36
mundus2018I will show my history when I fix it03:36
xboxhave a new version of ubuntu beyond 10.10for x360 ?03:37
rc34what swapfile size should i use for a server running apache and mysql with 64GB ram? even under high traffic, ram usage never goes above 20GB03:37
jackcomLua: Error during loading: [string “/usr/share/Wireshark/init.lua”]:44: dofile has been disabled due to running Wireshark as superuser.   <—— i got error message03:38
jackcomwhat’s wrong?03:38
lordcirthrc34, I don't think you need one, then.03:38
Ben64mundus2018: you might be able to do something like chown root:root bin boot cdrom dev etc lib lib32 lib64 media mnt opt proc root run sbin srv sys tmp usr var03:38
Ben64but it still might not work03:38
DonkeyHoteirc34: just use zram03:38
lordcirthxbox, I have heard it is possible to install Ubuntu on an Xbox 360, but I don't think that's supported here.03:39
lordcirthAh yes, zram is good.03:39
Ben64jackcom: don't run wireshark as root03:39
jackcomok i will try it03:39
xboxlordcirth ,i'm talking from a xbox360 man !!!03:40
z999_how do i change the repositories for os 16.0403:40
mundus2018running that Ben6403:40
Ben64mundus2018: should probably have put a -R in there then03:40
xboxbut its limited03:40
mundus2018oops03:41
mundus2018is it ok?03:41
xboxdont work youtube anymore for exemple03:41
jackcomvoid DBusMenuExporterPrivate::addAction(QAction*, int): Already tracking action "" under id 189   <—— error too Ben64 :(03:41
z999_what is the recommended repositories for 16.0403:41
OerHeksz999_, change repositories?? no need for that after install or upgrade03:41
mundus2018no I would nned -R03:41
Ben64jackcom: how did you install wireshark03:41
z999_i upgraded in april and now it is saying that the repositories may be old03:41
xboxits simple to run ubuntu on xbox360 with a Glitch RGH !03:42
lordcirthxbox, that's great, but I don't think anyone here can help you with such a niche case.03:42
jackcomsudo apt install wireshark-qt Ben6403:42
Ben64z999_: what is the output of "cat /etc/issue"03:42
xboxlordcirth , ok man tanks anyway ..03:42
xboxXP03:42
mundus2018the sudoers file is now ---------- root root03:43
Ben64well you broke it03:43
Ben64now you need to reinstall03:43
nudogeis there an /etc/sudoers,v?03:43
mundus2018fucking hell03:43
DonkeyHoteiyou don't need to reinstall03:43
DonkeyHoteijust boot recovery mode03:44
z999_ben64 Ubuntu 16.04 LTS \n \l03:44
mundus2018Im in recovery03:44
mundus2018trying to fix shit03:44
OerHeksno need for that, mundus201803:44
mundus2018this command didnt work03:44
mundus2018for d in * ; do if [ -d ${d} ] ; chmod u+rwx,og+rx-w ${d}; fi03:44
Ben64z999_: can you post the message saying stuff is outdated?03:44
DonkeyHoteiif you're in recovery mode then you are root03:44
mundus2018SOrry for language03:44
Ben64mundus2018: nobody said to do that03:44
OerHeksmundus2018, lolz, why did you do that anyway ?03:44
Ben64mundus2018: you literally broke it by doing that03:44
lordcirthDonkeyHotei, if I understand correctly, he's just recursively chowned his entire /.03:44
somsipmundus2018: I told you it was wrong...03:44
mundus2018I didnt do that03:44
mundus2018I did what Ben64 said03:44
nudoge if d in * '03:44
Ben64<mundus2018> this command didnt work03:44
nudoge if d in * < that is kinda vauge03:45
Ben64suggests you did it03:45
mundus2018It didnt do anything03:45
z999_no ben6403:45
DonkeyHoteioh, if he chowned / then he does need to reinstall03:45
Ben64also the changed permissions on sudoers suggests you did something involving chmod03:45
Ben64therefore, you broke it.03:45
nudogemundus2018: is there an /etc/sudoers,v file?03:45
Ben64time to reinstall03:45
mundus2018idk03:45
mundus2018I did what you said03:45
Ben64<mundus2018> for d in * ; do if [ -d ${d} ] ; chmod u+rwx,og+rx-w ${d}; fi03:45
Ben64did you do that y/n?03:46
z999_the update information is outdated. This may be caused by network problem or a repository that no longer available, Ben6403:46
mundus2018n03:46
mundus2018all I did was chown root:root bin boot cdrom dev etc lib lib32 lib64 media mnt opt proc root run sbin srv sys tmp usr var\03:46
Ben64what exactly did you do since  Jun 08 2016 20:08:17 <mundus2018>-r--r----- user03:46
mundus2018and chown -R root:root bin boot cdrom dev etc lib lib32 lib64 media mnt opt proc root run sbin srv sys tmp usr var03:46
mundus2018that was all03:46
Ben64because now you say Jun 08 2016 20:43:20 <mundus2018>the sudoers file is now ---------- root root03:46
nudogefind ./ -type f -exec chmod 750 {} \;03:46
lordcirthmundus2018, -R is recursive, you chown'd every file on your hard drive, reinstall03:46
OerHeksmundus2018, don't be childish, you came here with: mundus2018> Im trying to follow this <mundus2018> http://superuser.com/questions/563287/fix-a-permission-disaster-ubuntu-linux-in-directory which makes your system unusable beyond repair03:46
Ben64nudoge: no03:47
OerHeksmundus2018, reinstall and have fun again03:47
mundus2018OerHeks, It didnt run03:47
nudogeBen64: no what?03:47
z999_ben64?03:47
Ben64just no, don't do or suggest that nudoge03:47
mundus2018chown -R root:root bin boot cdrom dev etc lib lib32 lib64 media mnt opt proc root run sbin srv sys tmp usr var, broke it?03:47
mundus2018probably03:48
mundus2018riperino03:48
nudogelook for a revision in sudoers or tell him he is chmodding wrong?03:48
Ben64z999_: can you paste.ubuntu.com the output of "sudo apt-get update"03:48
DonkeyHoteinudoge: no, that undoes setuid/setgid03:48
Ben64mundus2018: no, your weird chmod thing03:48
mundus2018I didnt chmod anything03:48
OerHeksmundus2018, sure .. we did it03:48
mundus2018Im not blaming it on anybody03:48
mundus2018I F*ed it up to start03:49
Ben64<mundus2018> for d in * ; do if [ -d ${d} ] ; chmod u+rwx,og+rx-w ${d}; fi03:49
Ben64did you do this03:49
mundus2018its my faint im not mad03:49
Ben64spoiler - you did03:49
lordcirthmundus2018, well, it doesn't really matter, because you chowned everything, that's quite enough03:49
mundus2018No Ben6403:49
nudogeDonkeyHotei: so looking for a RCS is a bad idea?  What are you saying.  I was correcting the for loop.03:49
DonkeyHotei[Wed 2016-06-08 08:46:56 PM PDT] <nudoge> find ./ -type f -exec chmod 750 {} \; <----- this is bad03:49
Gallomimiadoing a find on everything and exec'ing a chmod on everything is a bad idea03:49
DonkeyHoteiit also sets everything executable03:50
Gallomimiatho it might be pertinent in the directory you're in. it's rather ambiguous what the working directory is03:50
mundus2018can I03:50
lordcirthexecutable fstab!  what could go wrong03:50
mundus2018try to 777 everything?03:50
Gallomimiano03:50
Ben64mundus2018: no,03:50
lordcirthmundus2018, that won't help.03:50
mundus2018i mean03:50
OerHeksit cannot do any more harm to mundus2018s installation03:50
Ben64nope, reinstall time03:50
mundus2018I already broke it enough03:50
lordcirthmundus2018, that will just break different things03:50
mundus2018I already broke everything03:51
lordcirthmundus2018, yeah, so reinstall.03:51
mundus2018Can it do more harm?03:51
Gallomimiai really want to follow along with what's happened?03:51
Gallomimiasomething chown'd the sudoers file, and now no one can sudo?03:51
nudogechmod u+rwx, og+rx-w == chmod 755.03:51
Ben64Gallomimia: mundus2018 ran a chown command recursively with either root or sudo, chowning the entire filesystem03:51
lordcirthGallomimia, he broke some permissions, ran some recursive chown's trying to fix it, now all of / is root:root03:51
mundus2018Ben, I didnt use sudo03:52
Gallomimiawell, that's a bit of trouble03:52
lordcirthAnd some chmod's in there somewhere apparently, not that it matters at this point03:52
Ben64Gallomimia: mundus2018 keeps insisting they didn't use sudo, but obviously it happened03:52
DonkeyHoteinudoge: that is not 755 because setuid/setgid03:52
Gallomimiaare there no permissions fixing scripts involved?03:52
mundus2018I didnt ben03:52
mundus2018I swear I didnt03:52
Gallomimiaavailable* i mean03:52
OerHeksmundus2018, if so, then your system should be healthy ..03:52
lordcirthmundus2018, it couldn't have happened if you didn't, so you did, somehow.03:52
Gallomimiai know mac has something that will fix all the permissions in the system files03:52
Ben64Gallomimia: so i suggested to chown everything back to root, which might have worked, but then mundus2018 must have ran some chmod stuff that ended up setting things to 000, so now everything is nice and broken03:52
OerHeksboot and see03:53
mundus2018is there a command hitstory file03:53
mundus2018cuz seriously03:53
mundus2018I didnt03:53
Gallomimiayes03:53
lordcirthmundus2018, 'history'03:53
DonkeyHoteihe doesn't need sudo because he's already root03:53
Gallomimiait's .bash_history03:53
Ben64mundus2018: /home/user/.bash_history03:53
mundus2018Well I cant right now lord416303:53
mundus2018*lordcirth03:53
Gallomimialet's start asking some simple questions in preparation for what's going to happen03:53
Gallomimia1. do you have any important files on your system?03:53
nudogeyou can also run rkhunter to get more information about files out of perms03:53
lordcirthnudoge, I think it's probably too broken for that to work.03:54
Gallomimia2. do you have any special configs that took a long time to setup and would be lost in a reinstall?03:54
nudogeif it is too broken I just keep hitting it with a hammer until it jump starts.03:54
mundus2018Ok03:54
mundus2018Your right03:55
Gallomimianow, if i understand correctly, running programs as root does not respect permissions? he should be able to fix something...03:55
mundus2018Idk how03:55
mundus2018I was sure I didnt03:55
mundus2018cat /root/.bash_history show I did it in root03:55
Gallomimiadone is done. pack up and move on. but hope you can learn from something03:55
lordcirthGallomimia, many programs will fail to run if they can't read their configs, or if others can03:55
nudogerkhunter!03:55
Gallomimiamaybe you had a bash session running with root permissions?03:55
mundus2018something idk03:55
lordcirthnudoge, rkhunter will only find a fraction of them03:55
Gallomimiaroot kit hunter? it fixes some permissions?03:56
lordcirthHe'll never get this system totally fixed without a reinstall03:56
mundus2018I chown ed 77703:56
lordcirthGallomimia, yeah, on like a handful of important things03:56
nudogebut its a fraction closer to not broke, it tells you about out of perm files.03:56
Gallomimiawell, it could fix things to a point where he can back up some stuff03:56
mundus2018maybe I can boot up and copy files03:56
mundus2018idk03:56
lordcirthIf he's already running a livecd then he can already03:56
Gallomimiayou can always boot from a LiveUSB and copy files off to somewhere else03:56
mundus2018we'll see03:56
Gallomimiaremember that. so can other people03:57
mundus2018Yeah im in the liveusb but im rdping into a windows machine and its super slow03:57
Ben64pretty sure you have to run rkhunter once so it can remember the permissions03:57
nudogePlease tell me how the find ./ -exec is wrong in this case?  Like a link or something?03:57
Gallomimiaah. that's a problem then03:57
mundus2018so im going to try to boot so I can ssh03:57
Ben64then the 2nd time notifies you of changes03:57
DonkeyHoteihi. i installed the python-setuptools pkg on trusty, then used the easy_install cmd to grab a program that uses wxpython. now i get "ImportError: No module named wx"03:57
DonkeyHoteihow to fix?03:57
Gallomimianudoge: it's just a dangerous command to tell people in this channel03:57
Gallomimiaalso, you need exec permissions on directorys, and not-exec on most files03:58
Gallomimiafind -exec chmod will goober all that03:58
nudogenope03:58
nudogefind ./ -type f -ls # lists files03:58
Ben64yes, and you don't want all files set to 75003:59
Gallomimiaah so you did send that03:59
Gallomimiaand you don't want exec on every single file03:59
reisionudoge: heh03:59
mundus2018Lets see if it boot03:59
Gallomimiajust the actual executables03:59
reisiomuch like find . -type f03:59
mundus2018dun dun DUN03:59
Ben64most executables are going to be 755 anyway03:59
nudogereisio: yup03:59
mundus2018its bootin04:00
Gallomimiafrom the drive you muckered?04:00
mundus2018yea04:00
Gallomimiawere you booted from liveUSB?04:00
mundus2018I chmodec 77704:00
mundus2018yea04:00
nudogedirs are normally 755 files are in some cases 644.  then run rkhunter and peice it back together.04:00
Gallomimiaah. changes to the liveUSB don't stick04:00
Gallomimiabut your recursion would have gone thru your drive if it was mounted04:01
mundus2018I was in recovery04:01
Gallomimiaanyway, it's a really bad idea to leave your system with 777 perms04:01
mundus2018with the hdd mounted04:01
Gallomimiarecovery eh? was it mounted read only?04:01
mundus2018no04:01
Gallomimiaaw04:01
DonkeyHoteimaybe nudoge has a point04:01
mundus2018im in04:01
Ben64mundus2018: try "sudo ls"04:01
mundus2018sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set04:02
DonkeyHoteimundus2018: if it booted, try using rkhunter04:02
Ben64one of many things broken04:02
OerHeksDonkeyHotei, you need to install wxpython i guess > pip install wxpython04:02
Ben64time to reinstall04:02
Ben64and be more careful with root/sudo04:02
mundus2018yeah I could have swore I wasnt in it04:02
mundus2018Can I install over SSH?04:02
nudogesu user # is your friend04:03
Gallomimiawhat's the # part do?04:03
Gallomimiainstall over ssh? no04:03
Ben64mundus2018: make a livedvd / usb and install from that04:03
Ben64maybe the same one you were just booted from04:03
DonkeyHoteiOerHeks: but that's already installed from the repo. why do i have to also install it locally? also, i don't think i have the pip cmd04:03
nudogebut in single user mode I think you have to stay root04:03
mundus2018im copying my hom dir04:03
z999_how do i paste in ubuntu.com?04:03
z999_website?04:03
mundus2018then diching this04:03
nudogemundus2018: learn find for stuff like that.  for is for writing quick programs04:04
Ben64z999: http://paste.ubuntu.com04:04
mundus2018this is a friends install04:04
Gallomimiaouch04:04
z999ben64 http://paste.ubuntu.com/17137025/04:04
Gallomimiadon't tell him ;)04:04
mundus2018I was seting up a plex/cp/sickrage/ect. thing04:05
mundus2018he dosent know how to use linux04:05
mundus2018lol04:05
mundus2018but04:05
mundus2018Im not going to tell him, well see if he notices04:05
somsipmundus2018: when you kille his install, you shouldn't really mock04:05
DonkeyHoteiOerHeks: ?04:05
Ben64z999_: thats a problem with google's repo04:05
mundus2018I aint mocking him04:05
DonkeyHoteimundus2018: there is stuff in /etc you might want04:05
Gallomimiai wonder if there's anything else in the drive you might want04:06
mundus2018hm04:06
mundus2018im not sure04:06
z999_been64 how did i get google rep?04:06
DonkeyHoteimaybe also /var04:06
mundus2018All the media was on an external drive04:06
Gallomimia*was04:06
DonkeyHoteiand of course the list of installed pkgs04:06
Gallomimiawas that mounted too?04:06
Ben64z999_: you must have added it04:06
z999_ben64 what do you recommend04:06
mundus2018Its mounted on /media04:07
lordcirthGallomimia, the media can be chowned/chmodded properly, it shouldn't be complicated04:07
z999_ben64, i upgraded. i don't remember adding it. ok how d o i change it04:07
Gallomimiayeah it won't need much to fix it04:07
mundus2018well /media/sdb104:07
lordcirthIt's the system that's fried04:07
Gallomimiabut you will need to fix that too04:07
Ben64z999_: you can remove it if you don't need the google talk plugin04:07
mundus2018I should copy fstab04:07
mundus2018and smb config04:07
z999_ben64 ok04:07
lordcirthmundus2018, just tar /etc04:07
Gallomimiayes and yes04:07
z999_ben64 what do you recommend?04:07
Ben64z999_: removing it if you don't need it04:08
Gallomimiai think that's his way of asking how04:08
z999_ben64 don't need it04:08
OerHeksz999_, if should not given you any i386 package, so remove those entries from sources04:08
Ben64the repository lines are in either /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/04:08
mundus2018How do I get a package list?04:08
mundus2018hm04:10
z999_ben64 do i sudo?04:10
mundus2018cp is saying permission denied04:10
mundus2018even though everything should be 77704:10
z999_     /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ i get directory04:11
Gallomimiayep. the trailing slash indicates its a directory04:12
DonkeyHoteimundus2018: if you're booted into the system, "dpkg --get-selections"04:12
Gallomimiaanyway, i'll ask for your pardon folks. i just stuck my nose in cause i was interested in mundus2018's problem. seemed a sticky one and i wanted to learn a few things. GL04:12
mundus2018haha04:13
mundus2018cya04:13
DonkeyHoteimy problem might be sticky too04:13
mundus2018wtf04:13
mundus2018One second my drive is mounted04:13
mundus2018next its not04:13
mundus2018and mount -a dosent work04:14
tnuchttps://www.facebook.com/groups/176997275744771/permalink/890219427755882/?sale_post_id=890219427755882   can you guys see this?04:14
tnucnot  sure if it's a public group, but basically some guy is trying to sell a desktop computer with radeon 5770 graphics for 800$04:14
somsiptnuc: nothing to do with ubuntu - move on04:14
mundus2018ok04:16
mundus2018well04:16
mundus2018its time04:16
z999_https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php Ben6404:16
DonkeyHoteitnuc: "You must log in to continue."04:17
mundus2018You have GOT to be kidding me04:19
mundus2018I deleted the wrong VM04:19
mundus2018could this day be any worse04:20
z999Ben64, ?04:23
OerHeksz999_, just remove those ppa entries from sources, type sources in dash and the sources-gui should show up04:25
OerHeksno need to generate a fresh list04:25
z999_OerHeks, sources-gui does not show up04:26
OerHekssoftwarecenter > edit > sources is an other way04:27
z999_thx OerHeks04:30
DonkeyHoteigrrr04:30
red__salve04:34
reisiosalvete04:34
DonkeyHoteii installed the python-setuptools pkg on trusty, then used the easy_install cmd to grab a program that uses wxpython. now i get "ImportError: No module named wx" even though python-wxgtk2.8 was already installed in the system. how do i get it to see it? do i really have to install wxpython into /usr/local separately?04:35
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Guest28569I can't connect to IRC using HexChat on a System76 laptop using Ubuntu Xenial; can someone help me troubleshoot?04:36
reisioGuest28569: if you send this: /nick irchelpguy04:36
reisioor /nick fatelvis04:37
reisioetc.04:37
Guest28569how's that04:37
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test01how's *that*?04:37
daxtest01: what happens when you try04:37
daxdo you get a connection error message in hexchat's status window, or...?04:37
test01Connection failed; cycling to next server in Ubuntu Servers; Disconnected; looking up <FQDN>; Connecting to <FQDN>04:39
_44trentso i'm trying "sudo apt source linux-image-$(uname -r)" and it picks linux as the source package instead of linux-image-4.4.0-22-generic04:39
_44trentdoes anyone know why this is happening?04:39
dax_44trent: linux is the source page for the linux-image-* binary packages04:39
daxpackage*04:39
_44trentwell, it's telling me it's not found04:39
daxlike, apt-get source is?04:40
_44trentyes04:40
daxerm, apt source*04:40
daxwhat's the actual full error it's giving (paste to paste.ubuntu.com and link here if it's multi-line)04:40
_44trenthttp://paste.ubuntu.com/17137492/04:40
test01Why can I connect via webchat but not via HexChat?04:41
daxtest01: that's not helpful. i don't use hexchat though, so not sure how to get something useful04:41
daxthe hexchat error, i mean04:41
DonkeyHoteitest01: literally <FQDN> ?04:41
dax#hexchat might know i guess. or someone else here04:41
test01No, Connecting to chat.freenode.net (162.213.39.42:6667) eg04:41
_44trenti did sudo apt update before i did that04:41
_44trentso it couldn't be outdated package lists04:41
dax_44trent: pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list and any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/04:42
DonkeyHoteitest01: is there connectivity otherwise?04:42
daxdon't need to be separate, it all gets concatenated together anyway04:42
test01Yes, it's fine otherwise04:42
_44trentis there a way to use cat directly pastebin it?04:42
DonkeyHoteitest01: maybe hexchat proxy settings?04:42
_44trenti remember someone having a website that cat worked with04:43
dax_44trent: cat ~/some_file.txt | nc termbin.com 999904:43
_44trentalrighty04:43
daxassuming you have nc04:43
daxthere's a pastebinit package too04:43
test01I don't know; thanks for trying; this sucks04:45
_44trenthttp://termbin.com/av8k, http://termbin.com/4sde04:45
kshenoyI'm trying to connect to Cisco Anyconnect VPN but I don't see an option in Network Manager. I have installed opeconnect and network-manager-openconnect04:45
_44trenti'm guessing it'll be some stupid thing i forgot to do04:46
dax_44trent: in sources.list, remove the # from the deb-src lines that are right below uncommented deb lines04:46
_44trent...yep04:46
* _44trent facepalms04:46
dax_44trent: then update package lists again, then should be good to go04:46
daxno worries, it's a common issue :)04:46
OerHeks!info OpenConnect04:47
ubottuopenconnect (source: openconnect): open client for Cisco AnyConnect VPN. In component universe, is optional. Version 7.06-2build2 (xenial), package size 300 kB, installed size 1626 kB04:47
kshenoyOerHeks: Any suggestions?04:47
OerHekskshenoy, this old guide should still be valid http://askubuntu.com/questions/627638/cisco-anyconnect-compatible-vpn-openconnect-in-ubuntu-15-0404:47
OerHeksinstall openconnect, and see the image in the url, vpnc should be available04:48
DonkeyHoteivpnc has nothing to do with openconnect04:49
kshenoyOerHeks: Did all that. Still can't see AnyConnect in Network Manager. I can connect to vpn with CLI so I know openconnect is installed correctly04:49
OerHeksmaybe you need network-manager-openconnect-gnome too.04:55
fyf\exit05:01
kshenoyOerHeks: Installed that too : /05:02
fyf\q05:05
fyf\quit05:05
BHey05:29
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winslow___FYI I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-images/+bug/1590647 just so the xenial64 vagrant box issue isn't lost05:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1590647 in cloud-images "xenial64 vagrant boxes are unavailable from Atlas" [Undecided,New]05:37
sesoxI want to change the permission of 10 directory to 755 but not recursively, also I don't want to do that for directories that their name start with "d".05:43
sesoxHow can I do that?05:44
OerHekssesox,  6 clicks per folder05:50
lone-geniusHello05:50
winslow___sesox: are they all at the same level? like parent/this1, parent/this2, etc?05:51
lone-geniusHey guys i was wondering if anyone could help me out05:51
lone-geniusi would really aprciate it05:52
lone-genius*apreciate05:52
somsip!details | lone-genius05:52
ubottulone-genius: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.05:52
lone-geniusokay well im somewhat new to this thing called ip tables?05:52
lone-geniusand i was wondering if anyone could tell me what this bash script code does? and if its right?05:53
lone-geniusip='nc -nvl 21 2>&1 1> /dev/null | grep -i from | awk '{print $3;}''05:53
lone-geniusand im on Ubuntu 16.0405:53
lone-geniusdidnt mean everyone to leave...sorry05:54
somsiplone-genius: putputs nc -nvl, takes all matching lines that have 'from' in it, and takes the value of the third space-delimited column and assigns it to variable "ip"05:54
lone-geniusokay well this is my whole script...and i really do apreciate it somsip05:55
lone-geniusand like please tell me what you think and what i should change...im trying to learn about honeypots05:56
lone-geniuswhile [ 1 ]05:56
lone-geniusdo05:56
lone-geniusip='nc -nvl 21 2>&1 1> /dev/null | grep -i from | awk '{print $3;}''05:56
lone-geniusecho %ip05:56
lone-geniusiptables -A INPUT -p -s $ip -j DROP05:56
somsiplone-genius: we dont do programming advice in this channel. Its for ubuntu support. Maybe there is an iptables channel that is better for you05:57
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lone-geniusokay well thanks...and abt ubuntu support05:58
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lone-geniusi typed in... sudo ufw allow 22 ...and its still not letting me SSH??05:59
lurkhow do I resolv my DNS in ubuntu 12.04?06:01
robhello06:04
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lurkyoyoyo06:04
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craptalkhow to make ubuntu run faster on an old PC?06:08
EriC^^craptalk: try lubuntu06:08
somsipcraptalk: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2194/how-can-i-improve-ubuntu-overall-system-performance06:09
craptalki used it, but didnt seem any faster06:09
craptalkwindows 10 run faster on my old one06:09
craptalkbut i just cant believe that06:09
* OerHeks thinks whats-in-a-name06:10
KekSicraptalk: do you have all the necessary drivers installed then?06:11
craptalkKekSi: i do06:30
dmanhey guys if someone has a ppa ie https://launchpad.net/~skettler/+archive/ubuntu/php and i want to add some other php packages to that is it possible06:36
dmanlike can i take his ppa, fork it and modify the build script or however it works06:36
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Numnumwhy cant i run a script from the terminal?06:42
stucklingHey guys, I am trying to install Ubuntu using USB but it gets stuck on "Preparing to Install Ubuntu" screen, I checked both options.06:42
lowbroNumnum: maybe it has no execution rights?06:43
stucklingNumnum: did you give it exe rights (chmod +x scriptnameHere)06:43
bjpennanyone know how to bypass the limit for environment vars stored in /etc/environment06:43
Numnumi have a few scripts in my /Scripts folder. i do cd /Scripts but when i enter its name it says command not found06:43
Numnumi do have rights :)06:43
Numnumi am superuser xD06:43
lowbroare those shell scripts? Then try sh ./Script.sh06:44
stucklingyes yes but you need to make the file an executable06:44
stucklingbut usually ./ScriptNameHere  does the job06:44
Numnumoh lol06:44
Numnumi used to be able to tun them without the sh06:44
Numnumrun^06:45
hateballNumnum: make them executable with chmod +x06:45
stucklingHey guys, I am trying to install Ubuntu Gnome using USB but it gets stuck on "Preparing to Install Ubuntu Gnome" screen, I checked both options for downloading updates and third-party software06:46
reisiostuckling: and that was your mistake06:46
reisionever check those06:46
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stucklingwhy not reisio? and are they easy to install after?06:46
Numnumits ok i am making a one script to rule thhem all06:47
reisiostuckling: yes they are06:47
lowbroNumnum: will you name that script Skynet?06:47
reisiostuckling: but they vastly overcomplicate the base installation process06:48
stucklingAlright, I will try installing without those two things06:48
stucklingWell I have been using Linux for a while, but just on my laptop, so now I decided to switch my desktop to Linux too06:48
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Numnumsorry to ask that dunb question... but how do i delete files stright from the command line?\06:49
reisioNumnum: rm06:49
Numnumkk :P06:49
stucklingNumnum: rm fileName   to remove directory you need rm directoryName -r   (r stands for recursive)06:50
hateball!manual | Numnum06:50
ubottuNumnum: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/06:50
stucklingbut be careful with the rm command, you can remove your whole OS :D06:50
reisionot really06:50
stucklingare you sure reisio? he is running as superuser06:51
reisioyou can't accidentally delete your entire OS if you've only just learned what the _name_ of the command for deleting a file is06:52
reisioyou can barely delete your OS even with rm alone and many advanced options06:52
reisioit definitely deletes files, though06:53
reisiothe only way to learn to respect that is to accidentally delete one you didn't mean to :D06:53
stucklingso a command like rm -rf / wouldn't fuck your system up?06:53
robotti^stuckling: not really06:53
robotti^stuckling: just try06:53
stucklingNo06:53
robotti^stuckling: there is safeguards06:54
stucklingDoesn't matter06:54
stucklingyou can try out the safeguards :)06:54
CablegunmasterQuestion how to set a preference device for sound?06:54
CablegunmasterI switch 3/4 times a day for a audio device, for travelling and listening06:55
reisioit's not really a safeguard06:55
reisioit's GNU giving you a big middle finger :p06:55
reisiobut no, it won't work06:55
reisioCablegunmaster: hrmm?06:56
robotti^stuckling: it just say, it is dangerous to use rm recursive at /06:56
Cablegunmasterreisio: like you attach your headphones, device detected  is in preference over the current rest so switch sound *06:56
robotti^stuckling: when you type it there :)06:56
Cablegunmasterreisio: like hdmi > headphones > Speakers of laptop.\06:57
Cablegunmasterlike make a preference list.06:57
reisioCablegunmaster: headphones and laptop should be automatic06:57
toshywoshyIs there a significant difference between Debian partitioning and Ubuntu partitioning, as my debian preseed file used on ubuntu 16.04lts keeps on asking me to confirm the partitions manually06:57
reisiodunno about hdmi06:57
Cablegunmasterusb headphone reisio ;)06:57
Cablegunmasteralways have to do it manually :p06:58
reisioCablegunmaster: :p06:58
Cablegunmastermy experience tells me switch every time manually reisio :p\06:58
reisioCablegunmaster: might check with pavucontrol06:58
Cablegunmasterwhats pavucontrol :)?06:59
reisioa package/app06:59
stucklingbut regardless rm should be used with respects, I have before lost a couple of files just because I was slightly too fast to press Enter :D07:00
reisiothat's worse if you use -fr07:00
stucklingyup07:01
reisioa nice precaution against that is to do rm /that/there/path07:01
reisioand then add -fr at the end07:01
stucklingand especially if you do like  rm *.pdf but instead you do   rm * .pdf07:01
reisio:p07:01
stucklingthat will also remove everything and then complain that it could not find any pdf files :D07:01
stucklingbut yes, I had my share of accidents with rm07:02
stucklingand still get them ^^07:02
reisiounrm07:02
stucklingHave any of you read through the Linux Commandline book/website?07:03
reisio_the_?07:03
reisioI guess not07:03
stucklingIt is a great book if you want to get into the use of terminal07:05
PositiveCreepI think referring to linuxcommand.org07:05
ubuntu__@stuckling. I'm reading 'The Linux Command Line' by Shotts now. It's very good.07:05
reisioPositiveCreep: thinking again? :p07:05
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stucklingYep, that is the book ubuntu__07:06
PositiveCreepreisio: I was wrong? In that case, I'll have to give it a few more hours before I try to boot /brain functions :p07:06
stucklingit is the same guys who did linuxcommand.org just a book version07:06
reisioPositiveCreep: being wrong again? :p07:06
ubuntu__I haven't seen linuxcommand.org before. Yes it is the same author.07:07
franceon startup im directed to bootmenu. I click on ubuntu and then this appears: /dev/sda1: unexpected inconsistency; run fsck manually07:08
PositiveCreepPretty useful resource.07:08
reisiotwss07:08
francethen I read: busybox v1.22.1 and then i am in initramfs07:08
franceI need to fix this, thanks07:08
ducassestuckling: you can alias 'rm' to 'rm -I' if you are worried someone might make a mistake. or just use zfs snapshots ;)07:09
reisiofrance: might try http://askubuntu.com/questions/132965/how-do-i-boot-into-single-user-mode-from-grub07:09
Cablegunmasterstuckling  gimme a title and I give it a shot :)?07:09
franceare you sure I shouldnt try this? I just googled: http://thenubbyadmin.com/2011/08/10/solving-the-error-unexpected-inconsistency-run-fsck-manually-on-a-linux-machine/07:11
stucklingCablegunmaster: http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php  they have a website version but more like for reference07:11
Cablegunmasterastucking: William E. Shotts, Jr. ?  Is the author?07:11
Cablegunmasterstuckling /\07:11
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bjpennanyone know where to set environment vars?07:20
bjpenni want everything to have access to it07:20
bjpennnot just bash07:20
Electrohey07:21
stucklingCablegunmaster: yes, he is the author07:21
Electroi have a problem on ubuntu 16.04 with mouse07:21
stucklingit is a very decent book if you are new to the commandline (like me :D)07:21
Electrousb mouse don't work after login07:21
Tex_Nickbjpenn: have a look @ ~/.profile07:25
OerHeksgood start >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables07:27
int-mainIf I change lightdm.conf and I get a black screen instead of login prompt, how can I revert the change?07:29
lyzeint-main, press ctrl+alt+f2 or f3 or f4,... till you get a tty ... login there and revert the changes07:30
int-mainlyze : thanks, I'll try07:30
DevAntoinehi07:31
neredsenvyI have one screen with 3000x1400 resolution and one with 1920x1080 on first one (native) i need UI scaling applied which I have set at 200%07:33
neredsenvyproblem is this also scales the second screen07:33
neredsenvyIs it possible to disable UI scaling on secondary screen07:33
bjpennOerHeks: it says to use /etc/environment, but setting a value in there thats more than a certain limit will not work07:33
bjpennOerHeks: when you try to echo the env var, it will just output up to a certain amount07:34
bjpennwhich is really annoying07:34
scriptwarlockgood day07:34
OerHeksneredsenvy, maybe this page is any help, xrandr http://askubuntu.com/questions/393400/is-it-possible-to-have-two-different-dpi-configurations-for-two-different-screen07:35
cihhanHi all! I would like to build a secure apt repo that is publicly available but I want only defined users to be able to have access to it. While searching, I have seen that one method is to use SSH. Do you have any suggestions?07:35
scriptwarlockgood day07:35
OerHekscihhan, publicly available  <> only defined users ... that bites.. but i think you want a team-ppa , see visability and Membership policies https://help.launchpad.net/Teams/CreatingAndRunning07:39
scriptwarlockanyone ca help me about openssl and stuff? got stuck on bad certificate password and such in ubuntu07:39
bjpennOerHeks: any ideas?07:40
bjpennabout environment vars and where to set them... in a way where theyre accessible, and i dont have a character limit like i do with /etc/environment07:40
bjpennor any way on how to bypass the character limit?07:40
neredsenvyAmazin Ubuntu does not have a working UI scaling support07:40
neredsenvystill better than other distros07:40
Tex_Nickneredsenvy: not sure what distro/de you're running, but xrandr might do what you need ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution07:41
OerHeksbjpenn, nope, i think you are better off with  ~/.bashrc, or maybe ~/.bash_profile07:41
cihhanOerHeks, thanks for your answer. Well, SSH based APT would solve the issue but there are some reivews out there not suggesting it. That's why I wanted to check it with the experts here :)07:41
bjpennOerHeks: those vars only work with bash07:42
bjpennOerHeks: ie... if i start a bash shell, those vars will only exist in there07:42
neredsenvySome solution when you have to go calculating resolution and scale factor than trying to manually figure out the absolute position for your screen.07:42
neredsenvyI hope Unity8 will actually have a working UI scaling support.07:42
bjpennOerHeks: if i run a java program for instance, or a python, how would I get the environment vars in there?07:42
OerHeksneredsenvy, this page didn't help ?? http://askubuntu.com/questions/393400/is-it-possible-to-have-two-different-dpi-configurations-for-two-different-screen07:43
neredsenvyNo07:44
neredsenvyIt does a half ass job07:44
OerHeksbjpenn, not sure where, maybe tex hint >> ~/.profile07:44
bjpennOerHeks: .profile only gets read in login shells07:45
elricsfatevalvazork, Magic07:47
franceI just executed fsck /dev/sda1 -f from tails as livecd and the screen freezed, how scared should I be?07:49
al2o3-crbjpenn: are you tring to access env vars from a python/java script?07:50
OerHeksfrance if pressing caps lock changes the led off/on, it is oke i guess07:50
bjpennal2o3-cr: yeah07:51
franceOerHeks: I dont have leds to indicate if caps are on or off, but the mouse also freezed...07:52
al2o3-crso what's the problem?07:52
al2o3-crjust set them and be done07:52
OerHeksfrance hdd led is blinking?07:53
al2o3-crenv vars are global07:53
franceOerHeks: do laptos have those leds too?07:53
bjpennal2o3-cr: where should i set them for it to be global?07:53
franceOerHeks: I dont see anything blinking07:53
OerHeksfrance, i haven't seen a laptop without leds07:54
al2o3-crbjpenn: /etc/profile07:54
bjpennal2o3-cr: that only worksf or login shells07:54
BlenderProI'm upgrading ubuntu 10.04 you think it will run safely on the internet07:54
BlenderProI had it on a cd07:54
bjpennal2o3-cr: ie. when i log in via ssh07:54
franceOerHeks: ill have to pay more attention, but no, no leds are blinking, and function keys dont work either07:54
bjpennal2o3-cr: my program runs in a non login shell07:55
OerHeksfrance then it crashed i guess07:55
al2o3-crbjpenn: will still work07:55
bjpennal2o3-cr: for example when you start your system, and nginx runs, it doesnt run in a login shell07:55
bjpennal2o3-cr: non login shells dont read  ~/.profile07:55
al2o3-crbjpenn: oh, sorry missed that07:55
francejesus christ...07:56
franceOerHeks: unplug?07:56
akikbjpenn: how about /etc/environment07:56
al2o3-crbjpenn: have you tried?07:56
bjpennakik: /etc/environment is good, but i just realized theres a limit on how long your variables values can be07:56
Numnumcan i ask bash quetions here?07:56
Numnumlike how to use select?07:56
akikbjpenn: al2o3-cr didn't say ~/.profile07:56
bjpennakik: /etc/profile is only read via login shells07:56
bjpennakik: so anyone who logs in to the system will have the values in /etc/profile07:57
akikbjpenn: man bash tells that if you execute a non-login shell with --login, /etc/profile is read07:58
DanBangWTFRajibHello, I am having trouble with SSH into ubuntu box outside of home network.07:58
akikwell it says non-interactive but i think that's what you're looking for07:59
xCykrixhey anyone around that can help me with formatting a usb?07:59
lyzeDanBangWTFRajib, have you port forwarded?07:59
lyzexCykrix, gparted?07:59
Ben64xCykrix: ask your question to find out07:59
xCykrixyep07:59
lyzeask c;08:00
xCykrixgparted gives me Libparted Error | Invalid argument during seek for write on /dev/sdb08:00
DanBangWTFRajiblyze, its 14.04 LTS and no port forwarded. Just installed ubuntu and set static IP.08:00
DanBangWTFRajibI want to be able to ssh into it from anywhere, so, the firewall rules is set also like that08:01
lyzeDanBangWTFRajib, well I'm sure your modem / router / whatever has a firewall. To access a services from outside of your network you need to port forward it08:01
lyzeAh08:01
xCykrixhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/17138931/ | Thats the details of it08:01
xCykrixI've been trying for like 2 hours, FAT NTFS and all other types fail08:02
lyzeDanBangWTFRajib, have you checked that the ISP allowes this?08:02
DanBangWTFRajiblyze, thanks... interesting topic about firewall in router. Yes the centOS box is just fine in the same network.08:03
bjpennakik: yeah but im not even trying to use bash to run my programs08:03
Ben64xCykrix: looks like you're trying to write past the end of the drive08:03
xCykrixIts a 4GB Flash drive08:04
bjpennakik: how would you execute a non-login shell with --login?08:04
franceOerHeks: im now using fsck to recover dev/sda1... Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read... do I ignore the error or not?08:04
Ben64xCykrix: so why would you try to make a 14GB partition on it08:04
akikbjpenn: for example in a script #!/bin/bash -l08:04
Numnumguys what does elect do in bash? why does it return select:not found ?08:04
Numnumselect^08:05
xCykrixthats what it automatically wanted08:05
reisioNumnum: 'help select'08:05
akikbjpenn: how do you start your program?08:05
bjpennakik: but all programs would have to run through bash then right?08:05
bjpennits started through upstart08:05
bjpenntheres an upstart script08:05
akikbjpenn: all the sysv init scripts do that08:06
bjpennakik: what are you referring to when you say "do that"08:06
akikbjpenn: the init scripts use #!/bin/bash or equivalent08:06
bjpennakik: they dont08:06
xCykrixwhy doe it think its a 15+gb?08:06
xCykrixdoes*08:07
akikbjpenn: this is not an argument :)08:07
bjpennakik: trying to find an example08:07
bjpennyeah08:07
bjpennnot trying to argue :p08:07
akikbjpenn: they do08:07
bjpennakik: which init script are you looking at?08:07
agent_whiteWhat's the tldr08:07
al2o3-crbjpenn: honestly they do :p08:07
reisiotldr: pants not required08:07
akikbjpenn: that was just a reference that service scripts do that08:07
bjpennakik: youre talking about /etc/init.d/* scripts?08:08
bjpennthey use #!/bin/sh08:08
akikbjpenn: for upstart you would need to find another way08:08
akikbjpenn: /bin/sh was /bin/bash before. now it's /bin/dash08:09
agent_whitereisio: Good thing I was prepared.08:09
agent_white\o/08:09
bjpennakik: but what i mean is they're not #!/bin/bash now08:09
bjpennso they wont read profile08:09
akikbjpenn: have you looked into adding env variables into upstart scripts?08:09
bjpennfirst of all, they arent a login shell, secondly they arent bash08:09
agent_white#!/usr/bin/env bash08:10
Numnumi still dont uinderstand the error...08:10
agent_whiteakik: No systemd?08:10
Numnumselect help didnt help me xD08:10
reisioagent_white: heh08:10
bjpennakik: thats possible, but again, having to manually put in environment variables for every upstart script is not feasible08:10
bjpennactually i dont think i addressed that point08:11
francecan anyone explain to me how is it possible fsck lists so many errors?08:11
franceI dont misstreat my computer that much08:11
bjpennakik: but yeah i'd have to basically find a way to put all those env vars into every single upstart file08:11
Ben64france: hard drives die08:11
bjpennthis is not a one off situation akik08:11
akikagent_white: bjpenn is using upstart08:11
reisiofrance: what FS?08:11
franceext408:12
bjpenntrying to find a solution where all my upstart jobs can do this...08:12
reisiofrance: ever lose power or do hard resets?08:12
agent_whiteENV variables and init... wat.08:12
agent_whiteThat doesn't sound right.08:12
francereisio: yes, a bug has been bothering me for a long time...08:12
peterlustigwie bekome ich virtual ma zum laufen08:12
reisiofrance: what bug?08:12
bjpennakik: the actual problem is that i got my upstart to read /etc/environment without declaring env vars in upstart... but theres another issue where the values in /etc/environment has a limit to how many characters08:12
francebasically I have to unplug the cable each time I want to turn the os down reisio08:12
lyze!de | peterlustig08:12
ubottupeterlustig: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!08:12
reisiofrance: well that's really quite terrible08:13
francereisio: as soon as I find the link to the bug I filled on launchpad ill paste it08:13
bjpennakik: if you try to set a var FOO thats 1000 characters, and then echo $FOO08:13
bjpennit wont output all of it08:13
reisiofrance: if you can suspend at all, that might be better than killing the power08:13
akikbjpenn: oh i thought that problem was long gone :(08:13
Numnumguys i am trying to use select.. i do select opt $OPTIONS; do08:13
Numnumi returns an error08:13
bjpennakik: you ran into that issue too?08:13
francereisio: suspend will redirect me to a log in menu, right?08:14
akikbjpenn: no but i tested it on 14.04 bash just now and 1000 chars is ok for a env variable08:15
reisiofrance: no, it'll reload everythig you had open beforehand08:15
agent_whitebjpenn: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1078031/what-is-the-maximum-size-of-an-environment-variable-value08:15
francereisio: and what do I do after suspend to turn it off?08:15
reisiofrance: after you power it back on after powering it (almost but not 100% entirely) down08:15
reisiofrance: you don't, you leave it08:15
reisioit should turn off enough that most people would think it's off08:15
agent_whitebjpenn: If you value string exceeds 1k characters, something is VERY wrong.08:15
reisiobut it's really on enough to be able to turn itself back on08:16
Ben64i got over 1000 easily on my 14.04 too08:16
akikbjpenn: i tested with $ yes y | head -1000 | tr -d '\n'08:16
agent_whiteie improper usage of env08:16
akikput the value into an env variable and then counted it with wc08:16
francereisio: does suspend consume energy?08:17
BlenderPropros08:17
BlenderProanyone here knows what's app armor08:17
franceI mean I constantly take my laptop from home to work... Im gonna have to unplug the cable eventually08:17
francereisio:08:17
reisiofrance: yes, but only barely08:17
agent_whiteBlenderPro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor08:18
reisiofrance: there are different levels08:18
agent_whiteBlenderPro: What is it?08:18
reisiofrance: the maximum level consumes no power, really08:18
reisiofrance: if it works in any form it'd be better than hard resets08:18
francereisio: you are saying I can safely unplug the cable when the os is suspended?08:19
Ben64what cable08:19
reisiofrance: this is a laptop?08:19
francereisio: yes08:20
reisiofrance: does the battery work?08:20
franceyes, battery I have and it works08:20
reisiookay...08:20
reisioso have you been giving it unsafe reboots or not?08:20
akikbjpenn: i just looked into /etc/init for the upstart scripts and you can easily add env variables in them08:21
franceif unplugging the power cable because mz xubuntu 16.04 freezes each time I try to turn it off is unsafe, then yes, plenty08:22
francereisio:08:22
francemy*08:22
reisioit would if you weren't using something powered by a battery :p08:22
franceFIXXXXXXXXXXXXED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!08:23
reisiogj08:23
bjpennakik: not for bash08:24
bjpennakik: for /etc/environment08:24
bjpennakik: we are not trying to use environment that pertains only for bash08:25
bjpennakik: otherwise i'd have to wrap everything in #!/bin/bash scripts08:25
akikbjpenn: sorry i don't follow you. i thought you were trying to create an upstart service for your application08:25
bjpennakik: i have an upstart service, that i was able to get to read /etc/environment08:26
francereisio: I still dont understand what your idea is: if I suspend and leave it like that I cant take my laptop to work08:26
reisiofrance: sure you can08:26
reisiobut that doesn't matter08:26
bjpennakik: but the challenge is the /etc/environment values has some limit08:26
bjpennakik: theres a value i have thats basically a "private key", which is 5000 characters long08:26
francereisio: yes I can, but if I understood you correctly I have to milk my battery...08:27
bjpennakik: so one solution is to try and bypass the /etc/environment character limit, if thats possible08:27
bjpennim not sure if it is08:27
akikbjpenn: but if you use upstart, wouldn't it be logical to have the variable *in* the upstart script?08:27
bjpennakik: its not because these environment varaibles are read by everything... not just those upstart scripts... it would be a nightmare to declare them in /etc/environment, then in each upstart file08:28
bjpennthere has to be one single location where i can declare an environment variable and everything can fetch the env values from there08:28
bjpenni mean theres ways you can hack it to make it work, on a case by case basis, but im looking for a solution... not really a hack that wouldnt work at any scale08:29
bjpennthat wouldnt work at scale*08:29
reisio$foo$bar$baz$qux08:29
reisioor save it in a file instead of a var08:30
reisio$(cat $file)08:30
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bjpennyeah08:30
reisioor save it in the script itself08:30
reisioin a here doc08:30
bjpennyeah, that would require an entire refactoring of all the apps we use to instead of reading env vars, it will read from file08:31
bjpennbut yeah that would be better08:31
reisioif the init parser supports those08:31
akikbjpenn: well there's still /etc/bash.bashrc. does it work for you?08:31
reisiobjpenn: or gzip it?08:31
lernerreisio, hi, Im the person who just fixed a broken hdd with fsck. The bug I filled is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/158910908:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1589109 in linux (Ubuntu) "I have to unplug the cable to turn xubuntu 16.04 off" [Medium,Incomplete]08:33
akikbjpenn: oh it's only for interactive shells08:33
reicheltHi, I'm currently having the problem that, after hibernation, my second screen isn't recognized08:34
reicheltSo this are the outputs of xrandr and lspci: https://nopaste.me/view/75e51db908:34
reicheltI'm running ubuntu 16.04 on a Thinkpad T440s. Is this a known bug, is there a workaround or should I maybe post a bug report?08:35
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lernerwhat can I do to see what Xubuntu does on closing it? It could be the machine is shutting down and because I only see the backdrop and nothing else I believe it has crashed...08:36
bjpennakik: trying to find osmething that doesnt have to go through bash08:37
bjpennakik: otherwise i'd have to wrap everything around bash scripts08:37
geirhabjpenn: just create your own file in /etc. And any script that needs it must source that08:37
bjpenn:(08:38
Tex_Nickbjpenn: jeeze man, i haven't followed your entire thread regarding this, but a 5000 rather radical, first i saw of this was where to set env path, not seems length is also an issue ?08:39
Tex_Nick*5000 character env var08:40
bjpennTex_Nick: its like an ssh key08:40
bjpenna private key08:40
bjpennTex_Nick: thats why its so long, but i mean yeah08:40
bjpennother option would be to read it from a file08:40
bjpennwhich birngs up other issues08:41
MuriiHey! Are there any programs which will let me boot my USB into a Journal so I can install back OSX?08:41
MuriiPLS halp, I am disperated08:41
ikoniaMurii: into a journal ???08:41
ikoniaMurii: what ?08:41
Muriithat format that osx is using08:42
Muriijournal...08:42
lernercan I safely remove grub.ucf-old?08:42
ikoniaMurii: what ???08:42
ikoniaMurii: the format journal ???08:42
ikoniawhat are you talking about08:42
Tex_Nickbjpenn: does this at all adress your issue ?08:42
MuriiFAT32 is not working on macs08:42
bjpennakik: al2o3-cr i wanna thank you guys for helping me btw08:42
bjpennand also agent_white08:43
Tex_Nickbjpenn: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1078031/what-is-the-maximum-size-of-an-environment-variable-value08:43
bjpennTex_Nick: thats the maximum size of an env var for bash scripts or something i believe08:43
Tex_Nicksorry for two liner08:43
bjpenntheres a hard limit on the value in /etc/environment08:43
bjpennwhich a separate thing08:43
ikoniaMurii: you want to put a usb in a mac08:44
ikoniaMurii: is that what you're saying08:44
lerneris it a problem that my grub file has this line? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_os_name='Windows 2001.1'"08:44
reisiolerner: you tell us: is it a problem?08:44
lernercan that line cause my os not to shut down when I tell it to turn it down?08:45
agent_whitebjpenn: I tuned out... don't think I helped much since I didn't know your issue in the first place ;P That was all akik .08:45
lernerreisio, my bet would be yes, what iw windows doinf there? but I dont know...08:46
reisiobetting is not involved in problems08:46
reisioa problem is a problem because it's unavoidable08:46
reisiowhat you have is not a problem, it's an unwarranted concern08:46
geirhaThere's no limit on a single environment variable alone, but the total length of environment variables (envp) and arguments (argv) are limited to the system specific limit ARG_MAX (getconf ARG_MAX)08:49
geirhaSo if /etc/environment doesn't allow 5000 chars for an environment, that's a limitation in the pam_env module08:50
Tex_Nickgeirha: good point man !08:51
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lifernuxhola peña09:14
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Anassup people?09:20
BlenderProagent_white, hi09:23
BlenderProagent_white, can I see app armor on the manual pages09:24
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Guest10967这个怎么玩09:31
BlenderProI can see funny chraracters09:32
BlenderProlook like houses symbols09:33
neredsenvyOk I removed my native locales and than ran locale-gen en_US.UTF-8 than dpkg-reconfigure locales09:34
neredsenvyRebooted09:35
neredsenvyhowever now I can't open the terminal09:35
neredsenvyI can still open UxTerm run locale and I get LANG=, LANGUAGE=, LC_ALL=, LC_COLLATE="POSIX", LC_MESSAGES="POSIX" everything else is en_US.UTF-809:37
numnumhow do i use commands from the bash?09:48
somsip!manual | numnum09:48
ubottunumnum: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/09:48
somsip!bash | numnum (maybe this one)09:48
ubottunumnum (maybe this one): The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal09:48
numnumi feel schooled09:49
numnumxD09:49
xubun2hi09:50
lernerI have installed 2 kernel ppa's and none of them works... is there any active upstream kernel ppa?09:52
crydalHey Guys09:52
somsip!mainline | lerner09:52
ubottulerner: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds09:52
lernersomsip, so that would be : no ppa?09:53
somsiplerner: you can search for one if you want - see !ppa09:53
OerHekslerner, did you read that page? i see kernel-ppa .. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=N;O=D09:54
lernerOerHeks, tha includes the letters ppa, but I cannot add it with sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/mainline, it is also not on launchpad09:57
OerHeksyeah, it is a manual thing .. and at your own risk.09:58
lernerlaunchpad guys want me to test the bug with the newest kernel...09:59
k1lthen manually install the mainline .deb packages as instructed10:00
blinkyb_Hi, i just installed 16.04 but the Unity launcher is not good, my pc still runs 14.04, is there anyway I can get the Lucid Lynx look on 16.04?10:04
popeyblinkyb_: Ubuntu MATE10:04
blinkyb_i installed gnome3 and it almost looks like Unity10:04
popeyblinkyb_: it has the older contemporary look and feel10:04
blinkyb_popey: MATE? i'll check10:05
CablegunmasterQuestion: how to rdp in a pi , without a remote able port? ( landlord being pain in the ass)10:07
Ben64ssh tunnel, vpn, google chrome remote desktop, getting your own internet10:08
OerHeksgrinn .. without any dedicated port to that pi ?10:09
blinkyb_popey: thats an entire os not a theme right?10:10
k1lblinkyb_: mate is a desktop enviroment. and its included in ubuntu for 16.0410:11
cperrin88Hey. I can't install wineone ubuntu 16.04 because libwrap:i386 coflicts with libtotem-plparser18:amd64 on the file /usr/share/man/man5/hosts_access.5.gz10:33
mnffyHey!10:33
cperrin88should I report that as a bug and can someone suggest a woraround?10:34
k1lcperrin88: try "sudo apt-get install -f"10:34
cperrin88k1l: that doesn't help10:35
mnffyDon't panic! You should do it!10:35
cperrin88I get the same error10:35
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mnffyWhat error10:36
k1lcperrin88: can you put everything into paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here?10:36
cperrin88k1l: What do you mena with "everything"?10:37
k1lcperrin88: all the terminal output10:38
cperrin88http://paste.ubuntu.com/17140635/10:39
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cperrin88k1l: I didn't have te full log. This is the summary10:39
Guest44474  wasdad10:40
Guest44474sadasd10:40
k1lcperrin88: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" run that in terminal and show the output url please. that will show us what ppas are on your system10:41
OerHekslibtotem-plparser18:amd64 3.10.6-1ubuntu1 = Yakety yak ??? and libwrap0_7.6.q-25_i386.deb is trusty ???10:43
cperrin88http://termbin.com/x27410:43
OerHeks.. and some opensuse repo > /emby-server.list:deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/emby/xUbuntu_15.10/10:46
cperrin88OerHeks: Yes I know but the packages are both form teh ubuntu repos10:47
cperrin88*from the10:47
ikoniapretty much every bleeding edge unstable repo possible10:47
k1lcperrin88: i dont see where the "libwrap0_7.6.q-25_i386.deb" is from. is it from an PPA or manuall loaded .deb file?10:48
k1lcperrin88: reason is: we can force to let libwrap0_7.6.q-25_i386.deb overwrite the file that is owned by another pakcage. but if that is a 3rd party file overwriting a official ubuntu package that might have sideeffects.10:49
OerHeksapt-cache policy libwrap0_7.6.q-25_i386.deb10:49
cperrin88http://paste.ubuntu.com/17140813/10:49
k1lhmm10:50
cperrin88ikonia: Yes I do use many bleeding edge repos but I think i know what I'm doing.10:51
ikoniacperrin88: clearly not10:51
ikoniaas your in here asking how to resolve a conflict10:51
cperrin88ikonia: a conflict between two ubuntu packages10:51
k1lcperrin88: "sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libwrap0_7.6.q-25_i386.deb"10:51
k1lcperrin88: after that "sudo apt-get install -f"10:51
k1lthis will force the install of that package10:52
tobaresfrom what I read this will be resolved in the future by these "snaps" ?10:52
k1ltobares: snaps are alreaady installable. they use a different setup with depencies, yed.10:53
k1l*yes10:53
cperrin88k1l: Yes that worked10:53
cperrin88Thanks10:53
ubuntu674Hi10:53
cperrin88But still. Is that a bug I should repost?10:53
cperrin88*report10:53
ubuntu674I had deleted ubuntu because had take a system problems and now my windows doesnt work to10:54
k1lcperrin88: i guess something forces 32bit packages to install that are not meant to be installed.10:54
JunkHunkhello I have a problem here with usb 3.0. I am using a gigabyte 970A-DS3P mobo and when I enable usb3.0 in bios config neither usb 2.0 nor 3.0 work. I need to disable usb3.0 to get usb working10:54
Ben64ubuntu674: join ##windows for help with getting windows working10:54
OerHeksubuntu674, boot your windows dvd and choose repair?10:55
andybrineMy apologies for asking here but does anyone know if there is an Android Development IRC?10:55
ikoniaandybrine: ask in #freenode how to search freenode10:56
ikonia!alis > andybrine10:56
ubottuandybrine, please see my private message10:56
andybrineOk thanks ikonia10:56
rootkeaHello! How do I save command output as image? I tried `convert` as mentioned on http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/9104/save-command-output-to-image but it creates an image containing `@-`10:58
rootkeaBTW $ convert --version10:58
rootkeaVersion: ImageMagick 6.8.9-9 Q16 x86_64 2016-06-01 http://www.imagemagick.org10:59
rootkeaHello! How do I save command output as image? I tried `convert` as mentioned on http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/9104/save-command-output-to-image but it creates an image containing `@-`11:02
leeyaahi11:02
rootkeaHello!11:03
leeyaawhat is the current recommended size for /var/cache/apt on ubuntu server ?11:03
leeyaaconsidering upgrades11:03
leeyaabiggest package i have is mysql-server11:03
rootkeaI am not aware of any such recommenation about apt cache size11:05
rootkea*recommendation11:05
leeyaarootkea: i tend to use 1GB for /, so i need to put /var/cache/apt on a separate partition11:05
leeyaaso how much would i need during upgrade from ubuntu 14.04 LTS to ubuntu 16.04 LTS ?11:05
leeyaaroughly11:06
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rootkeaGiven that iso size is about 800 MB I would say 1GB would be good11:06
leeyaai see11:07
mgorleeyaa, there are some recommendations here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace11:07
leeyaamgor: those are for desktops11:08
leeyaa15GB for Ubuntu is crazy11:08
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leeyaarootkea: sounds reasonable11:08
rootkealeeya: But again if you decide to install extra packages then you'll need extra space11:08
mgorleeyaa, it does not mention desktop anywhere?11:08
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rootkeaYou can `apt-get clean` periodically to use the scarce storage.11:09
leeyaarootkea: yes, but i already know my footpring11:09
leeyaafootprint*11:09
leeyaa1GB for / is more than enough for me11:09
leeyaamgor: doesnt need to mention it, 15GB is a crazy disk recommendation for server11:10
k1l15Gb is fine for / on regular desktop with seperated /home11:11
leeyaayeah, thats why i said this article is for deskop11:11
leeyaadesktop*11:11
rootkeaLeeya: `apt-get autoclean`, `apt-get autoremove` and `apt-get clean` are your friends!11:11
k1lon server it depends heavily on the partition setup and used services and its configs.11:11
leeyaarootkea: yes, im just trying to plan how big would /var/cache/apt go during upgrade11:12
leeyaa1GB sounds about right11:12
guest261hello11:12
BluesKajHiyas all11:12
k1lleeyaa: that depends on the installed packages of course. but i would say the size of the iso + a bit. 1GB sounds worth a try.11:12
leeyaak1l: yeah sounds reasonable11:14
rootkeaHow do I save command output as image? I tried `convert` as mentioned on http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/9104/save-command-output-to-image but it creates an image containing `@-`11:16
starkhello11:19
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rootkeaIn case if someone is wondering I can't take a screenshot of the command output as the output generated is more than screenfull and I'm unaware of any open source tool which takes the screenshot of scrolled window11:21
auronandace|workrootkea: why do you need the output as an image?11:22
rootkeaauronandace|work: I want that image to be displayed, sent, posted on my blog etc. I mean does it really matter?11:24
auronandace|workrootkea: i thought maybe you weren't aware of pastebins11:25
rootkeaauronandace|work: Oh! No. I'm aware of pastebins very well.11:26
HoloIRCUser3hello11:26
DJonesrootkea: What command is you want to copy the output of11:27
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rootkeaDJones: Again it can be `ifconfig` or any other utility or our own program for that matter. :)11:29
Nurhello everyone11:29
DJonesrootkea: This doesn;t give an image, but does give pastebin website link "ifconfig | nc termbin.com 9999" don't know if that helps11:30
Nuri don t know how to install reactos, anyone help me learn this11:31
auronandace|workNur: they can help you in #reactos11:32
YankDownUnderNur, Strange question to ask here...11:32
Nurok thanks vlad,11:32
Nursorry yank11:32
YankDownUnderNur, Nothing to be sorry for, bro...was kinda funny, really...11:33
k1lrootkea: convert label:"$(df -h)" result.png11:33
k1lrootkea: gives an error but works11:34
joakimkI have a dual boot set up, Win10 and Ubuntu. I need to re-install Windows, but how do I make sure I don't touch the Linux partition?11:38
rootkeak1l: Thanks! It works! But it doesn't preserve the terminal colors (e.g. ls colors) How do I get the colored output of `ls` in an image?11:39
joakimkThe Windows installer, under advanced/custom install, shows me the available partitions: Drive 0 has 4 partitions. 1) System (500MB), 2) Primary (279GB), 3) Logical (159 GB) and 4) Logical (8GB)11:39
joakimkwhat do I do, which do I choose? Is that easy to say? :)11:39
joakimkI mean, I want to format the windows partitions?11:40
k1lrootkea: look into the man from convert. it got stuff for coloring the text and background. you might want to ask the imagemagic guys if convert can make use of tha bash coloring11:40
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YankDownUnderjoakimk, Have you like, ya know, written down what partition was what - just asking...however, that being said, if you boot to a liveUSB/CD/DVD, you can run "gparted" and kinda figure out which drives/partitions are what...11:49
scrabcakescan anyone help with a chromebook/xubuntu problem I'm having?11:49
joakimkYankDownUnder: well, the win installer only let me select one of the partitions (system), it was the only one NTFS formatted11:50
joakimkso, I guess that'll be the one then11:50
joakimkbut no, I did not write such info down ;)11:50
joakimkpoint taken11:50
lundmarhi, I've just created a snap of a tool which includes a bash completion script. However, when installed using snap the bash completion is not activated?11:51
YankDownUnderjoakimk, Should be right, bro...either which, next time, best to write things down...can't trust "the brain"...especially when bits get frustrating...hmm...11:52
Guest98202i am trying to make a select bash menu to 1) change dirctory of the terminal then let me use the terminal as normal in the directory 2)open telnet and let me use it/ i ahve searched teh web and tehre is no obvious answer. pls help11:53
joakimkYankDownUnder: thanks :)11:53
YankDownUnderGuest98202, http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_09_06.html11:54
hateballrootkea: fwiw, the command in your link works just fine for me11:55
VladimirVolkovл11:55
JackJacksonHey, I have downloaded some icons and put them in /usr/share/icons however I cannot seem to activate the icons in the Tweak Tool?11:59
JackJacksonoh, now it works, oddd...11:59
YankDownUnderJackJackson, Sometimes it takes a moment or two to "refresh" disk data in menus and dialogues...12:01
lundmartio snap: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/516912:02
lundmarnow, how to get the bash completion script working ... seems the ubuntu devs need to fix sourcing snap installed completion scripts..12:02
rootkeahateball: Really? How? I mean why it's not working as expected on my end?12:03
computeranyone understand bash shell scripting well, i need some help and i cannot get the answers i need through searching12:04
k1lcomputer: #bash is helpfull12:06
computerthanks k1l12:07
akikrootkea: i get @- too in the png image12:07
ciaran_Hi all12:09
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rootkeaakik: Yes! And nearly 79 people on command,linefu have upvoted that solution!12:12
gg10Hello people. I have a video which has a scrolling marquee bar along the bottom. Is there any open source application that I could use to cut the marquee section out of the movie ?? Like change the aspect ratio of the movie or something ??12:12
akikrootkea: even that graphicsmagick solution does the same12:13
rootkeak1l: I read the whole manpage of `convert` but couldn't find the clue. Can you please help why the command mentioned on commandlinefu http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/9104/save-command-output-to-image  is not getting executed as expected?12:13
rootkeaHeck even 79 people have upvoted it!12:13
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k1lakik: which shell do you use?12:14
akikk1l: bash12:14
akikk1l: the command does not give an error but just produces a png image with @-12:15
k1lakik: yes, that is the issue.12:16
k1lakik: it should produce a picture with the terminal output in it (not @-) says the internet.12:17
lerneron shutting my laptop it freezes at: "stopped NFS Mount Daemon"12:17
lernerand it stays like that12:17
Kromagguys I have created a 32 gb partition by shrinking my windows partition and am trying to install ubuntu desktop on there12:18
Kromagand it's now complaining after selecting that partition to install to12:18
Kromagabout swap space12:18
Kromaghow do I go about doing this12:18
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YankDownUnderKromag, Assuming that you've not allowed it to do the "automatic" partitioning, are you using the "guided" partitioning?12:20
YankDownUnderKromag, Something to consider - create a swap partition that is probably equal to your RAM...unless you've got more than 8gb of RAM...12:21
KromagI never said I was using guided anything12:21
KromagI don't even know what that is12:21
KromagI slected other12:21
Kromagand i have windows also installed on this hard drive as I mentioned12:22
YankDownUnderKromag, Give this a quick read, bro:12:22
YankDownUnderKromag, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq12:22
KromagI have 8 gb of ram12:22
Kromagthis is my first time setting this up too12:23
KromagI am not interested in ruining my windows installation which is why I am asking here12:23
Kromagand someone in raspberrypi channel was saying to go without swap space12:24
YankDownUnderKromag, If you're not "deep" into the installation - like, if you haven't actually created the partitions, you might want to do a bit of reading up on it beforehand - and also, using the "Guided" partitioning is probably the better bet...12:24
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KromagI just told you how far i was into the installation12:24
YankDownUnderKromag, Research, bro.12:24
KromagYankDownUnder you're going on ignore bro i'm not your bro12:24
Kromagkid12:24
PositiveCreepYou could choose to use a little less space for your / partition and use that for swap.12:25
Kromagyour very rude YankDownUnder12:25
Kromaghave a good day perm ignore12:25
YankDownUnderNevermind...12:25
KromagI am not healthy enough to deal with taht sort of stuff12:25
KromagI'm sitting here getting chemo12:25
BluesKajKromag, so you chose "something else" which is manual partitioning , a wise choice as long as you're familair with partitioning12:25
PositiveCreepKromag: and if you don't want to research anything or try stuff out. This might not be for you...12:25
Kromaggood bye12:25
Kromagyou guys are useless to me12:26
PositiveCreepBye,12:26
BluesKajanother satisfied customer :-)12:26
PositiveCreepWell that was one big wtf -.-12:26
YankDownUnderI shan't bother with folks that DON'T bother...12:27
gg10Lol that guy was totally mad like...12:27
BluesKajsome users are intimidated by the manual partitioniong options, but it is safer if you know how.12:27
gg10Always guided for me always guided :-)12:28
gg10Can anyone help me with my video prooblem I have ??12:29
YankDownUndergg10, Close your eyes. :)12:29
cgomez_exthey motherfuckers!12:29
gg10haha very funny lol.12:29
YankDownUndergg10, What's the issue?12:29
BluesKajI prefrer manual , but I usually prepartition with gparted ahead of time so the target partitions are all ready to go when i install the OS12:30
cgomez_ext:(12:30
YankDownUnderBluesKaj, That's the smarter way to accomplish that task...12:30
cgomez_extsorry huys wrong chat12:30
YankDownUndercgomez_ext, De nada.12:30
gg10I have a video which has a scrolling marquee bar along the bottom. Is there any open source application that I could use to cut the marquee section out of the movie ?? Like change the aspect ratio of the movie or something ??12:30
YankDownUndergg10, Have you taken a look at "Avidemux"?12:31
BluesKajYankDownUnder, it's a little more work , but I have the time :-)12:31
YankDownUndergg10, https://sourceforge.net/projects/avidemux/12:31
gg10No I have not taken a look at that. I will go do that now thanks :-) Google was not my friend when searching this problem lol. Thank you very much for the link :-)12:32
YankDownUnderBluesKaj, I'm so old school that I can't fathom "Automatic" or "guided" partitioning on drives...didn't have that "way back when"12:32
YankDownUndergg10, Coolbeans12:32
BluesKajYankDownUnder, yup12:32
gg10Straight from clicking on that link I think you've linked me to what I'm looking for :-) Thanks very much :-)12:33
YankDownUndergg10, Heaps of video editors - just gotta find the one that works the best for ya...12:33
Tex_Nickgg10: ffmpeg, which was for a while deprecated by Canonical & replaced by avconv, will do tha and much more ... a useful gui utility that would do that is "WinFFMPEG"12:35
gg10Yea that's totally true. I did search google prior to logging on here but couldn't find the correct search term to use or something cos I was getting nothing useful lol12:35
YankDownUndergg10, http://lives-video.com/ => That's a really "hard core" full-blown vid edit suite...12:35
HoloIRCUserThanks for those links and suggestions guys :-)12:37
HoloIRCUserI'm in work at the moment, but saved them for looking at once I get home to my laptop :-)12:38
fritzroy15hello, can someone suggest a service I can install that writes a good chunk of output into logs on ubuntu? I need to do a tutorial of how to debug something analizing its /var/log files12:43
fritzroy15hello, can someone suggest a service I can install that writes a good chunk of output into logs on ubuntu? I need to do a tutorial of how to debug something analizing its /var/log files. something from the official repos would do nicely12:45
YankDownUnderfritzroy15, https://www.loggly.com/ultimate-guide/analyzing-linux-logs/12:45
fritzroy15YankDownUnder no no, I need to do an interactive session with my colleagues at work and not sure what to start up so we can tail -f some logs12:45
BronzeHi I'm getting an error when i try to run " apt-get -f install " The error lines are: "Err http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/main libc-dev-bin amd64 2.13-38+deb7u10" followed by "  404  Not Found [IP: 128.101.240.215 80]"    Does this mean wheezy is no longer being updated?  (been getting this for weeks)  (That IP is pingable and a debian server is running there)12:45
YankDownUnderfritzroy15, Sorry, my bad...my misinterpretation...12:46
lyzefritzroy15, i'd just go with apache or whatever and restart it to show them ^^12:46
Bronze<bloody Yanks.. Wait - I'm a Yank.... >12:46
YankDownUnderBronze, Kernel 2.13? Mmmm...12:46
BronzeOutdated?12:46
fritzroy15lyze that's actually not a bad idea thanks : )12:46
YankDownUnderBronze, Slightly...12:46
BronzeWell carp.12:47
mcphailBronze: this is ubuntu support, not debian12:47
lyzefritzroy15, for a error case: just make the http.conf invalid and restart it so that the inside the logs is the error dispalyed12:47
BluesKajan understatement12:47
Bronzei hate upgrading. It plays hob with operations.12:47
YankDownUnderBronze, That's why you get paid the big bucks!12:48
fritzroy15lyze thanks for the help, i'm surprised I hadn't thought of it myself after working with the damn thing for 2 years :)12:48
BronzeYankDownUnder: I wish! :-)12:48
lyzefritzroy15, no problem! have fun ;)12:48
lyzefritzroy15, i mean you could also use the syslogs c;12:49
YankDownUnderBronze, Every time I'm faced with a situation - kinda like the one you're in now, I create a new "box" and match all the "apps" it's got, then, when I'm sure it's solidified, swap the data over...then again, I have physical means by which to do so...12:49
BronzeIs there any tool that collects your installed packages in order to reproduce what you have added to a system after a new install?12:50
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YankDownUnderBronze, There's a number of "profilers" to use...12:50
BronzeYankDownUnder: is there specific keyword to googlefor them, or is profiles that keyword?12:51
Bronze*profilers12:51
YankDownUnderBronze, Hang on a tick, bro...12:51
Bronzegracias12:51
joeliodpkg --get-selectons > file12:51
YankDownUnderBronze, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/hardinfo/12:52
BronzeDanke!12:52
joeliodpkg -l > installed_list12:52
joelioetc etc12:52
YankDownUnderBronze, And ditto with what joello pointed out...12:52
joeliocan then use dpkg --set-selection < file12:52
Bronzejoelio: Vielen Danke!12:53
joelion/p12:53
YankDownUnderJust takes time to make sure all the ducks are in a row...12:53
BronzeI see I have more man page studying to do. :-)12:53
BronzeRats, My ducks are all anarchists12:53
YankDownUnderStudy is good. Research is good. Writing things down (or printing them out) is good.12:53
* joelio wrote a meta-backup system useing that method as his first admin job years ago :)12:53
YankDownUnderBronze, Mine, too...hence I had to move them to a different geo-magnetic location...12:54
joelioobviously get your /etc/ stuff too if needed12:54
joeliothere are alos tools like devstructure12:54
joeliothat will output a shell script or puppet/chef for use elsewhere12:54
joeliohttps://github.com/devstructure/blueprint12:54
BronzeYankDownUnder: In 1983, i reproduced the entire set of BSD manuals for my OS development group to that every programmer has a complete hardcopy.  It took 8 full size pallets, stacked to six feet high to ship them... and the manual set for Linux today is easily forty times larger than that now12:55
Bronze /to/so/12:55
YankDownUnderBronze, Heheheheheheh...love it..."Kill them thar trees!" - all for naught when folks don't know how to read hard-copies anymore... :)12:57
LTCDHi. Using a program which came preinstalled (called Disks I think) I was able to make an image of a memory stick. When I right click on the image I get given an MD5 hash. How can I get the MD5 hash of the USB drive so I can be sure I have imaged it correctly?12:59
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joelioLTCD: md5sum {thing}13:01
BronzeYankDownUnder: Its just like holding a tablet, but you need two hands...13:02
YankDownUnderBronze, PMSL...my girlie's kids freak out when they see me reading an actual "book"...(one, a six year old, thinks I'm bonkers)13:04
LTCDjoelio How do I do it to a USB drive?13:04
joeliowell, I use cli, so I can only offer you this13:04
joeliolsblk13:04
joeliosee which is the usb drive (ie. /dev/sdb13:05
joeliomd5sum /dev/sdb13:05
BronzeYankDownUnder: show them a rotary dial phone, or a vinyl LP record...:-)13:05
Bronzeor an 8 MM film projector13:05
EriC^^LTCD: do both disks have the same size? cause the md5sum will differ13:06
LTCDBronze Video casette tape.13:06
YankDownUnderBronze, None of them know "life without Facebook". Ergo, pointless operation.13:06
BronzeLTCD  Like what my wedding is on? :-)13:06
ikoniaperhaps enough offtopic chatter guys ?13:06
BronzeI think Facebook is one of the biggest traps in existence13:06
ikoniathere is #ubuntu-offtopic if you to chat13:06
LTCDEriC^^ joelio  One is an image file, the other is the USB memory stick from which I made an image. Will md5sum still work?13:06
Bronzeikonia: sorry13:07
ikonianot a problem13:07
EriC^^LTCD: yeah13:07
tim241anyone? is it possible to build ubuntu touch with only 22 GB free?13:07
joelioif you create a parition and dd the image into it, at the same size, it'll be the same md5sum. If you're blindly copying, then ut will differ13:07
LTCDEriC^^ So it's good computer forensics if you're caught short?13:07
k1ltim241: better ask in #ubuntu-touch for experience with that13:08
EriC^^LTCD: caught short of what?13:08
LTCDEriC^^ Without a proper OS designed for forensics, like if all I had was an Ubuntu live CD which I had to use to carefully image a suspect's USB memory stick?13:08
EriC^^LTCD: yeah you can use dd to make an image of it, i wouldn't rely much on "Disks"13:09
EriC^^LTCD: gddrescue would be one of the best choices13:09
joeliopv ftw ;)13:10
EriC^^especially if the memory stick has problems or is failing13:10
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erebel55anyone know how to include the password in a rsync call instead of having it prompt you13:17
rbasakerebel55: see the manpage. Set RSYNC_PASSWORD or use --password-file. Assuming it is rsync's prompt and not ssh.13:17
erebel55ahh it probably is ssh's prompt13:18
joelioerebel55: use keys!13:21
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joelioerebel55: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-copy-files-with-rsync-over-ssh13:22
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PositiveCreepMight as well go for SSH keys indeed. :-)13:22
erebel55I am rsyncing from windows using cygwin to ubuntu. The password it asks for is my ubuntu user's password13:24
joelioI'd just use keys, with a passphrase, personallu13:26
erebel55either way I'm going to have to enter something13:28
erebel55I am automating this. So essentially it's a windows bat file that calls rsync. So I will need to handle whatever user input there13:29
tim241is it possible to port cm on my network drive from 2 terabyte?13:29
joelioerebel55: if you used keys, you won't have to enter anything - unless you add a passphrase - even then it's cached for an abitrart amount of time13:30
joeliothat's how I automate ssh13:30
joeliofor backups etc13:30
joelioI add passphrases to ssh keys that are more personal13:30
joeliofor automated actions passphraseless keys are fine (imho)13:30
meygahmannhello?13:31
joeliois it me you're looking for?13:32
meygahmannhi everyone, just installed linux =)13:32
mjaykHaya all I need help fixing my vpn problem, just installed 16.04 and it fails because the "vpn service stopped" it is a pptp vpn and worked in 15.0413:32
meygahmannanyone use ubuntu mate?13:33
joeliomjayk: I'm betting that's a systemd thing13:33
joeliobut tbh, no diagnisostics, so shrug13:33
winston2khello, try #ubuntu-mate13:33
mjaykjoelio: any idea as to where to start, are you saying i need to do something like systemctl start pptpetcetc13:34
meygahmannthanks winston13:34
joeliomjayk: yea, what does the status of the service say13:34
joeliosystemctl thing.service status13:34
joeliowill show you, I think, dunno not use pptp for years (it's not very secure at all(13:34
mjaykjoelio: im not sure as to the service name, sadly I work for the government and I dont get to choose what they use13:35
joeliolol13:35
joeliomjayk: are you using network-manager13:35
joelioor another pptp client?13:35
mjaykjoelio: yes network-manager whats built into ubuntu i think13:35
joeliomjayk: well, depends, server installs aren't - desktops generally do though13:36
joeliowould assume a desktop13:36
mjaykyea sorry this is a client / desktop install13:36
joeliook, so what do you get in logs when you try and start the vpn via network manager13:37
joelioor does it not even shiw?13:37
joelio*show13:37
mjaykhttp://pastebin.com/005hTJc0 joelio does that help sorry not very exped13:39
joeliomjayk: Jun  9 14:38:50 mjayk-IdeaPad-U430-Touch pppd[10115]: EAP: unknown authentication type 26; Naking13:42
joelioI'm guessing the security protcols have changed between 15.04 and 16.0413:43
joelioso maybe you need to define the specific protocols to use in the vpn config13:43
mjaykgrumble grumble kk thanks I shall have a gander at that13:43
tim241why did you guys remove su?13:43
tim241I dont understand because I can really use it now13:43
joelio?13:43
joeliosudo su -13:43
joeliodone13:43
k1ljoelio: dont use that13:44
LTCDEriC^^ Thanks, sorr slow reply.13:44
tim241hmm13:44
joeliok1l: why?13:44
joelioI know doing stuff via sudo means it's trackerd, logged, but why specifically?13:44
k1ljoelio: got sideeffects bevause of wrong enviroment variables.13:44
joelioso pass13:44
joeliosudo -E su -13:44
k1lno no no13:44
joelio-E will pass env vars13:44
tim241hmm13:45
k1lif you want a root-shell use "sudo -i"13:45
tim241ok thx13:45
joeliowell, I've never had an issue, that's for sure :)13:45
k1lyes, just because you didnt experience one so far doesnt mean there is another correct way to do it.13:45
tim241thanks k1l13:46
joelioit's the way I've been doing it since I've used ubuntu, who knew13:46
joelionever had an issue, personally13:46
cooldharma06how to remove pF files in dpkg status13:47
cooldharma06apt-get --purge remove failing13:47
* joelio failing to see what env vars are an issue13:48
joelioin fact, it looks pretty much the same :)13:48
cooldharma06http://pastebin.com/qjkhrG2K13:49
k1lcooldharma06: can you show what exact packages and files you mean?13:49
cooldharma06plz check the above link..13:49
k1lcooldharma06: first run a "sudo apt-get install -f"13:49
yangjhhi13:50
cooldharma06k1l same error for this command also13:50
cooldharma06please refer this link for error: http://pastebin.com/pSEiddcC13:52
k1ldo you know why its failing?13:53
k1lcooldharma06: dpkg --configure -D 777 nova-common13:55
k1lthat will show what is going wrong13:55
cooldharma06k1l some files with nova-common misconfigured13:56
akikjoelio: the issue is that people don't use the - with sudo su13:56
erebel55is there anyway to copy all contents of file to clipboard without gui? xclip and xsel are failing me13:56
erebel55they give me "can't open display" errors13:58
akikerebel55: if you don't run xorg, you can install gpm for the virtual console use13:58
akikerebel55: i don't know which copy buffer you're trying to use13:59
erebel55I'm just trying to copy text from one file to another. Really simple13:59
cooldharma06k1l any suggestion actually its my friend pc13:59
k1lerebel55: why gui then?13:59
k1lcooldharma06: <k1l> cooldharma06: dpkg --configure -D 777 nova-common14:00
joelioakik: well, I do - and I was told that was wrong, for some reason, that I'm not sure aboout14:00
erebel55I said without gui?14:00
akikjoelio: ok, you do it right :)14:00
k1lcooldharma06: i mean one could just plain get the hammer and force remove it but one better could fix waht is wrong14:00
joelioakik: I know I do, hence wondering wtf I was being told "no no no" for :D14:01
k1lerebel55: you can read the text and pipe it or > it to another file14:01
cooldharma06k1l: http://pastebin.com/8nWrBEmf14:01
Pinkamena_DI put a specific entry into me /etc/hosts and for some reason over the past week it has keps vanishing (just the one entry) I have tried many different names for the 'name' part, but it was always the same IP. I can not figure out the exact trigger. Does anyone have any idea what might cause this?14:01
* joelio gets on with preseed wrangling14:01
k1ljoelio: the ubuntu way is not to use sudo su. which you adviced. which will not grant all enviroment variables. sudo -i is the way to go.14:02
joeliono, the question was14:02
joeliowhere is su14:02
joelionot what's the best way to su14:02
joelioanyway, not worth worrying about :)14:03
joeliok1l: just take a look and see what's missing - if you use sudo su - and sudo -i (very little, and tbh, for most contexts, not applicable)14:04
akikthe correct command is "sudo su -". if you drop the - you'll get problems14:04
akikthat command grants you a root shell14:04
maidhi14:05
erebel55akik, gpm is nice, thank you for that14:05
maiddoes ubuntu have onboard encryption14:05
joelioakik: yep, it has done for the past 10 years for me at least :D14:05
ciaran_I have an exernal harddrive that I was using with windows 10 and it won't work, is there anything I'm missing?14:05
maidi mean when i install an live usb stick ubuntu can i choose an onboot encryption in the setup14:05
cooldharma06k1l any suggestions14:05
joeliomaid: it has full root encrtpyion that you can do at install time14:05
joelioor you can use encryptfs for home dir enc14:06
maidok so on install i can choose full usb encryption14:06
akikthen you can extend the command to change to some other user "sudo su - someother"14:06
maidso it asks me on boot for the password?14:07
joeliomaid: the defaults for full disk using dm-crypt are AES-256 loopbacks afair, so pretty damn good14:07
joeliomaid: yea, you can do that14:07
maidjoelio is it more secure than veracrypt14:07
maidor equal14:07
erebel55hmm I setup the ssh key and it's still prompting me for password when I ssh14:07
erebel55http://i.imgur.com/mGpGCRR.png14:08
cscferebel55, did you put a password on the key?14:08
cscferebel55, you did ssh-keygen, then ssh-copy-id?14:08
ubuntu_helpHey guys,  Quick question using Ubuntu I am having a problems working with iptables I need to delete a few lines that have duplicated14:09
cooldharma06k1l: resolved my friend wrote some configuration in nova.conf so its not removing i removed and rerun that file14:09
erebel55no I made it passwordless14:09
erebel55ssh-keygen -f ~/.ssh/id_rsa -q -P ""14:09
cooldharma06now its got removed14:09
erebel55cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub14:09
k1lcooldharma06: sorry, was afk. ah ok. you could have forced the remove with "dpkg -r" too14:09
cscferebel55, ok, so you generated the key, did you copy it to the server, with ssh-copy-id or otherwise?14:10
maidjoelio?14:10
erebel55I copied the contents of the pub to authorized_keys14:10
erebel55after doing this http://pastebin.com/YiZFePY514:10
cooldharma06k1l: no issue anyway thanks by that configure 777 command i got to know this14:11
glassi there a channel for hper V?14:12
glasshyper14:12
croephatrying to get into grub menu on 16.04, having trouble, i tried holding both shifts, that didn't work, any suggestions?14:12
erebel55cscf, ssh-copy-id would have saved me some time tho. I rsynced the pub and then download gpm to copy and paste the contents lol14:13
joeliomaid: sorry, busy, never heard of veracrypt. dm-crypt a standard linux thing..14:13
joeliocroepha: press escape14:14
joeliothen edit, then crtl-f10 or something14:14
erebel55cscf, yep, that did it. thanks!14:14
ubuntu_helpHey guys,  Quick question using Ubuntu I am having a problems working with iptables I need to delete a few lines that have been duplicated14:16
Jordan_Ucroepha: For UEFI you need to spam escape instead.14:17
cscfjoelio, veracrypt is just a truecrypt fork, FYI14:17
maid how i set perstistence mode with an usb stick, can i do it easy in the setup or do i need tweaks like on kali14:18
joeliocscf: oh, ok - only ever needed to use dm-crypt - I suppose with that fork you can use on $OTHER_OS14:18
croephaJordan_U, joelio: Thanks Escape did it14:18
cscfjoelio, dm-crypt / LUKS is the obvious choice on Linux.  But {true,vera}crypt are the only good options I know of that are multi-platform - all 3, actually.14:19
joelioaye14:19
maidcscf is dmcrypt / luks equal to vera,true?14:19
cscfmaid, ?  LUKS translates between a ciphered block device and a plaintext block device.  IIRC Truecrypt translated a ciphered block device into a plaintext filesystem14:21
joeliomaid: analogous, yes.. if you need to use on multiple OS's though, you may find vera better as cscf mentioned14:21
joelioas afaik there's no dm-crypt support in osx/windows14:21
cscfThere is not14:21
cscfmaid, what do you need to encrypt, and do you need to use it on multiple OS's?14:22
* joelio wonders why14:24
joeliod-i partman/early_command string debconf-set partman-auto/disk "$(list-devices disk | head -n1)"14:24
joeliois not being used in preseed14:24
joeliohrmmmmmmm14:24
joeliodamn blade chassis and different smart arrays == /dev/sda and /dev/cciss/c0d014:25
joelioI want to use one preseed to rule them all :)14:25
cscf /dev/cciss/c0d0  ? :O14:25
joelioHP smart array 20014:25
joeliobag of crap :D14:25
tyler_dI'm having a chroot problem, I have a script htat does the majority of this, but upon ssh login I get "/bin/sh: Not a directory"14:25
cscfjoelio, does the preseed syntax actually allow bash commands like that?14:25
tyler_dthe logs indicate: http://pastebin.com/EjafzvK614:26
joeliocscf: that example is from the advanced debian installer guide... !!!14:26
cscfOh ok14:26
joelioso, umm, I think it should :D14:26
cscfI haven't worked with preseed14:26
joeliotyler_d: how are you chrooting14:26
joeliochroot [place} /bin/sh ?14:27
cscfjoelio, are you sure that list-devices still exists on Ubuntu 16?14:27
tyler_djoelio: through sshd14:27
joeliothis is trusty14:27
joeliotyler_d: not follwing, you're sshing into a chrooted ssh jail?14:27
joeliocscf: I think it does to tbh, but not checked14:27
joelioit's part of the debian-installer generally14:28
joeliowill check actually, for shits and giggles14:28
joeliootherwise going to have to explicitly set the PXE config to use specific preseeds14:28
joeliowhich is really shitty14:28
tyler_djoelio I'm setting a script so that a newly added user is by default chrooted14:28
joeliotyler_d: why not use a jail shell ?14:28
tyler_djoelio wouldl that simply be chroot <<user>> <<dir>> or is there more to it?14:29
cscftyler_d, sounds to me like you're calling chroot with the arguments reversed - trying to chroot into /bin/sh, rather than executing /bin/sh in the chroot dir14:29
joeliotyler_d: paste the command you're using14:30
joeliobtw you can get restricted shells14:30
joeliono needs to mess to much with chroot14:30
maidhmm im watching and reading some stuff, is it true that ubuntu includes spyware?14:30
joelioso if you need to ssh in and only allow certain commands, restriced shell is what you want14:30
tyler_djoelio i'm not invoking chroot directly, its litterally through the sshd_config14:30
joeliowe use it for ssh jump hosts14:30
tyler_dChrootDirectory /home/%u/14:30
maidplease some experience user tell me14:31
joeliomaid: no14:31
maidare you sure? i watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc14:31
joelioyes14:31
cscfmaid, by default, the Dash sends your searches to Canonical.  You can turn it off with a setting, and that's that.14:31
tyler_dmaid: yes I'm sure14:32
maidhmm what richard stallman says scares me14:32
joeliothere used to be some Amazon thing that was included too... I wouldn't call it spyware, personally, just something that was trying to make Canonical some extra cash, if albeit a little short sighted14:33
tyler_djoelio if you wouldn't mind, what commands are needed to directly chroot or invoke chroot for that user?14:33
tgm4883cscf: it doesn't even do that by default anymore either I don't believe14:33
maidsorry but i dont want that an company knows everything i search for14:34
joeliotyler_d: dunno, I'd use rssh and a chroot to lock them down14:34
joeliogoogle about :D14:34
cscfmaid, so turn it off14:34
joeliomaid: how do they know it's 'You' - it's just a hash to 'Them'14:34
tyler_djoelio so you don't know directly the error regarding sh14:34
joeliono, sorry mate14:34
joelionot used it that way14:34
joelioonly via rssh14:34
cscfmaid, Settings > Security and Privacy > Search > Online Off14:34
tgm4883maid: cscf in 16.04 they are disabled by default14:34
tgm4883https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes14:35
maidits just wrong that they dont ask and you have to disable it14:35
maidwhat if i dont saw this video it was lucky14:35
cscftgm4883, excellent14:35
maidso i wouldnt know it sends information to a company or what?14:35
tgm4883maid: it's already disabled by default14:35
maidstrange14:35
* tgm4883 thinks maid is intentially ignoring me14:35
joelio:)14:35
cscfmaid, yes, it was quite a controversy at the time.  But as tgm has said, it's over now.14:36
joelioalso, I use gnome generally in ubuntu so le shrug ;)14:36
maidokay14:36
joeliotyler_d: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-restricting-ssh-user-session-to-a-directory-chrooted-jail/14:37
joeliotyler_d: I'm guessing you need to symlink/copy some stuff etc14:37
cscfI would seriously consider an LXD container if you just want people to be able to ssh into a Linux box without access to your system14:38
cscfIt's better isolation and it's easier to set up.14:38
joelioyea, more the merrier14:38
joelioit is effectively a chroot mind, and a namespace, and some cgroups etc etc14:38
joeliobut it's bloody easy!14:38
* joelio likes lxc/lxd lots14:39
cscfIt's great14:39
twn39hello14:40
cscftwn39, welcome14:41
TsakNorriscan someone help me please. What exactly happens when you press ctrl + alt + F1. Linux is entering not GUI environment, yes...but how it works? why it sends signal to external display also? I mean very good that it does that. Because now i can use xandr to clone my external display to be like my primary. My primary screen is toasted xD.14:46
joelioTsakNorris: that's something called a tty - you have several of these attached to a linux box generally14:47
joeliotry crtl - alt - f714:48
joeliobasically the X windows (gui) is just running on top of this stuff14:48
TsakNorrisjoelio: i have already made my external to be my new primary. i just wanted to read more about it. Maybe there is good link somewhere about TTY:s?14:49
joelioyea, google good - https://askubuntu.com/questions/66195/what-is-a-tty-and-how-do-i-access-a-tty14:49
joelioor https://askubuntu.com/questions/481906/what-does-tty-stand-for etc14:49
lifebird64I'm on 14.04LTS. When I use the 'Software Updater' or '$ update-manager', I am not offered any 16.04LTS upgrade unless I use the -d option (development release). Isn't 16.04LTS officially a production release now!? If so, shouldn't I be offered the upgrade without specifying any options/flags? I'm a bit confused14:50
joeliolifebird64: maybe LTS releases don't offer until a point release or two14:51
joelioiron out bugs14:51
lifebird64'point' release ?14:52
alberto_80Hello everyone14:52
joeliolifebird64: 16.04.1 for example .1 being the point release14:52
lifebird64ah.14:52
lifebird64thanks14:52
joeliohence why a -d works, as it's still treated as development14:52
joeliodunno :D14:53
k1l_!ltsupgrade | lifebird6414:53
ubottulifebird64: Users of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st.14:53
lifebird64that would all makes sense. mostly just wanted to make sure that it wasn't something I was doing wrong14:53
joelioah good, the guessing works still14:53
alberto_80I'm trying to make Flight Gear flight simulator work on Ubuntu 16.04, but I think I set too little Swap space, because my computer has 2GB RAM and Flight Gear freezes every time I run the simulator.14:54
lifebird64ubottu = bot or human? If human... "thanks!" if a bot... "0x7468616E6B73"14:54
ubottulifebird64: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:54
joelioalberto_80: swap space not a fun thing14:54
joelioadd more ram if you can, it's cheap14:54
* joelio tends to set vm.swappiness to 014:54
lifebird64k1l_: thanks for the bot invoke. now I know! :)14:55
alberto_80joelio Thank you, but older versions of Flight Gear used to work fine with my 2GB RAM, I don't understand why the latest version doesn't run...14:56
cscfalberto_80, the best option would of course be more RAM, but you might be able to save a few 100MB with zram14:56
alberto_80My graphics card is an Intel GMA X450014:57
cscfalberto_80, newer versions of games/sims almost always use more resources14:57
cscfIf a game starts swapping heavily, more swap may keep it from crashing, but it won't be playable14:57
alberto_80cscf I tried to install an older Flight Gear version from www.playdeb.net, but it always installs the latest version.14:58
alberto_80I don't know what I'm doing wrong.14:58
k1l_alberto_80: swap is very very slow, since hdds are very very slow compared to the speed of todays ram. its like old 56k internet vs broadband today. so get more ram if you want a fluid system.14:59
alberto_80Thank you14:59
cscfalberto_80, you can specify a version to apt, if you really need to.  But really just get more RAM.   4GB is the minimum nowadays, even on Linux.14:59
k1l_alberto_80: you could look out for stopping other programs that use ram, like browsers etc.15:00
joelioor use lxde or something :)15:00
alberto_80joelio I'm using mate :)15:00
naccalberto_80: i think you asked this earlier this week. What is the exact command you are trying to use to install the older version? (pastebin)15:00
joelioalberto_80: well that's probably quite memory heavy15:01
alberto_80nacc Ok, give me a minute, please. :)15:01
k1l_alberto_80: see http://wiki.flightgear.org/Hardware_recommendations  At least 2-4 Gb free RAM (and more is better: when building/buying a new system, consider 6-8gb total the absolute minimum these days). FlightGear uses more than 500 Mb of RAM by default. If less free RAM is available, FlightGear would be slowed down significantly due to OS swapping.15:01
HackerIIespecially with 64 bit15:02
k1l_so there is no surprise its slowing down.15:02
joelioyea, 2GB pretty low now, my phone has pretty much that15:02
cscfmy phone has 3GB15:02
cscfNot that I need that on a phone15:02
sammk1l_’s whore mother spreads her legs during Ramadan, and imagines the piggy prophet Muhammad licking her smelly pu$$y  he fucks pigs like her :) k1l_ raped his own mother!!!15:02
samm:)k1l_’s whore mother spreads her legs during Ramadan, and imagines the piggy prophet Muhammad licking her smelly pu$$y  he fucks pigs like her :) k1l_ raped his own mother!!!15:02
samm,,k1l_’s whore mother spreads her legs during Ramadan, and imagines the piggy prophet Muhammad licking her smelly pu$$y  he fucks pigs like her :) k1l_ raped his own mother!!!15:02
cscf!ops15:02
samm.k1l_’s whore mother spreads her legs during Ramadan, and imagines the piggy prophet Muhammad licking her smelly pu$$y  he fucks pigs like her :) k1l_ raped his own mother!!!15:02
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samm.,k1l_’s whore mother spreads her legs during Ramadan, and imagines the piggy prophet Muhammad licking her smelly pu$$y  he fucks pigs like her :) k1l_ raped his own mother!!!15:02
joelioget fucked15:02
joelioanyway, yea, RAM, wonderful thing :)15:03
cscfk1l_, perhaps you should consider auto-banning by regex15:03
enonDoes anyone know if on lubuntu 16.04 can a older version (0.7.6 for example) can be installed along with ver 8.4 standard ?15:03
phunyguyPlease don't comment on the trolls, especially with vulgar language.15:03
enonof cegui sorry for omission15:03
alberto_80nacc I go to www.playdeb.net and search for Flight Gear (Ubuntu 12.04 version), then I click on "Install this now"15:03
alberto_80nacc Then a dialog box appears asking me how to open the deb package and I choose "Apt URL"15:04
alberto_80nacc But when I15:06
alberto_80nacc Sorry15:06
joeliojust do it via command line? sudo dpkg -i {thing.deb}15:06
joelioand it that misses deps15:07
joeliosudo apt-get -f install15:07
naccyeah, i think the 'apt url' seems odd (i don't know what that's being run from, but it seems like that might mean using the apt sources?)15:07
joelioaye, not sure what synaptic would do there15:07
alberto_80nacc That's right15:07
alberto_80joelio I'm going to try what you just told me15:08
alberto_80joelio Thank you15:08
joelioalberto_80: it's the command line way, the path to enightenment :D15:08
naccheh15:08
joelioalberto_80: sometimes a .deb may requre dependencies15:09
joelioin that case, just run sudo apt-get -f install15:09
ubuntu_helphey guys i need to know is there something i need to do when i put an iptables command in to make it active?15:09
joelioand it'll install it all for you15:09
joelioubuntu_help: raw iptables or via ufw/ferm or something15:10
alberto_80sudo dpkg -i flightgear_3.0.0-1-getdeb1_amd64.deb15:10
joelioalberto_80: yea, looks right15:10
ubuntu_helpjoelio raw iptables15:10
alberto_80Errors encountered while processiong: flightgear15:10
alberto_80processing, sorry.15:10
naccalberto_80: can you pastebin the output?15:10
joelionacc: +!15:10
joelio+1 rather15:10
alberto_80nacc Sure15:10
naccalberto_80: more than likely, you now need to run `apt-get -f install`, as joelio said, but let's be sure15:11
joelioubuntu_help: well just running an iptables command makes it live15:11
joeliotheres no reloading15:11
naccalberto_80: dpkg itself doesn't konw how to install 'other' packages (dependencies) on its own, that's what apt/apt-get/aptitude/etc help manage15:11
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kshenoyI'm trying to install openconnect but I don't see an option to create a Cisco Anyconnect VPN connection in network manager. I've installed network-manager-openconnect and network-manager-openconnect-gnome. Anyone know what I'm missing?15:12
joelioubuntu_help: you can iptables-{save,restore} if needs be - but just running iptables {command to run} is enough15:12
alberto_80http://pastebin.com/SqGPDrXk15:12
alberto_80it's in castilian spanish, though15:13
naccalberto_80: yeah, try `apt-get -f install`15:13
alberto_80nacc ok :)15:13
naccalberto_80: (sudo)15:13
joelioubuntu_help: check it's take be doing an #sudo iptables -L -n -v15:13
joeliobad english there..15:13
naccheh15:14
joelioubuntu_help: check the command has been taken by doing an #sudo iptables -L -n -v15:14
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ubuntu_helpjoelio so here is my issue i am trying to route through the box but im not getting the routing to work any ideas im doing iptables -t nat -a prerouting -i eth0 -p tcp -d "boxip" --dport 123 -j dnat --to "destination:port" does that look right15:14
joelioubuntu_help: looks ok, to check15:15
joeliouse iptables -L -v -n -t nat15:15
alberto_80nacc It installs the latest version: http://pastebin.com/R3m1hEYm15:15
joelioubuntu_help: as you're suing a nat chain15:15
joelio*using15:15
naccalberto_80: so we might need to purge the existing one out, first15:15
naccalberto_80: so let's try this15:15
naccalberto_80: `sudo apt-get purge flightgear`15:15
alberto_80nacc ok15:16
ubuntu_helpjoelio it is showing it in there15:16
naccalberto_80: `sudo dpkg -i flightgear_3.0.0-1~getdeb1_amd64.deb`15:16
joelioubuntu_help: so it's aliiiiive15:16
naccalberto_80: `sudo apt-get -f install`15:16
joelioif it's valid, of course :D15:16
ubuntu_helpjoelio so any ideas why it aint working15:16
naccactually, that might be the issue, anyways, alberto_80, i'm realizing15:16
naccalberto_80: you might need to pin flightgear so it doesn't upgrade it via apt15:17
joelionacc: yea, won't downgrade it15:17
joelioubuntu_help: one mo15:17
joelioI'd do an apt-get clean too15:17
joeliomake sure it's not in dpkg cache15:17
naccjoelio: good point15:17
fsociety[00]datI am sometimes getting this error " http://ix.io/QFz " how can I fix? Please help :)15:17
naccalberto_80: let me paste you the set of commands to do15:17
alberto_80nacc Ok, thank you very much.15:17
joelioubuntu_help: I think you're missing --to-destination15:22
naccalberto_80: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17145231/15:22
naccalberto_80: what that basically is doing is saying you specifically want to keep flightgear at 3.0.0-1~getdeb1 regardless of what is in Ubuntu's archives15:22
ubuntu_helpits --to-destination xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx not --to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ?15:22
alberto_80nacc Thank you very much indeed.15:23
alberto_80nacc I'm going to try that15:23
joelioubuntu_help: I think so.. similar to15:23
joeliosudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 123 -j DNAT --to-destination "dest:port"15:23
joelioor something15:23
naccalberto_80: if you want to read about it, there's also a notion of apt 'holds', (see `man apt-mark`) that can do something similar, via a different mechanism (the pinning policy is more flexible)15:24
ubuntu_helplet me try that hold on15:24
joelioubuntu_help: yea, I could be off the mark, but worth checking15:24
joelioalso get out wireshark or tcpdump etc to check15:24
john__hi to all15:26
ubuntu_helpjoelio still no glory15:26
john__is there anyone on here tonight feeling generous enough to help me with my issue. I am in the middle of a newbie and tech with ubuntu15:27
john__I have learnt some stuff\15:27
joelioubuntu_help: sorry, that's where my iptables stops today, need to get on with my work :D15:27
john__There is soooooo much to learn15:27
joelioubuntu_help: good luck with it15:27
joeliojohn__: first rule of irc, don't ask to ask.... ask!15:27
ubuntu_helpall good thanks for your help ++15:28
joelionp15:28
john__lol okay well i am learning15:28
john__i have this weird issue with my two internal hard drives, the issue does not affect my boot up drive15:28
alberto_80nacc It didn't work, it keeps installing this current year's version15:28
Tex_Nickjohn__: second irc rule is to be as specific as you can15:28
naccalberto_80: can you pastebin `apt-cache policy flightgear` ?15:29
john__when I boot up into the desktop running 14.04 LTS and I open the file manager. Both my 1TB internal and 2TB do not auto mount. I must click on each drive name to mount them15:29
john__I have checked the mount settings in the gnome-disk-utility 3.10.0 and can not find the correct settings to fix this15:30
joeliojohn__: drive mounting on linux controllev via /etc/fstab - sometimes on desktops there are helpers15:30
john__i do not get this issue with my external USB 2TB15:30
joeliobut /etc/fstab is always the way15:30
alberto_80nacc http://pastebin.com/3AiT148015:31
k1l_johnif you want automount, but the into the /etc/fstab15:31
john__kil, I am sort of with you can you elaborate al little15:32
john__I get the hint you are talking about a command line15:32
k1l_john__: the fstab is a file where it tells the system on boot what to mount where. your system partitions are put in there. you can put your other partitions in there too, so they will be mounted at startup15:33
john__okay got it, now how do open the ect/fstab can open that in gedit15:34
joeliocscf: heh, preseed does work after all - I just was pushing the wrong branch in git... FML </noob>15:34
kshenoyOpenconnect not showing up in network manager... Any suggestions?15:34
cscfjoelio, lol15:35
naccalberto_80: can you run the same steps again, but stop after adding the preferences file and running `apt-cache policy flightgear` at that point?15:35
john__k1l_: is the fstab file fstab.d or just fstab as I can not find just fstab?15:35
naccalberto_80: (maybe an apt-get update first)15:35
Tex_Nickjohn__: sudo gedit or if you have gksu installed gksu gedit15:36
alberto_80nacc ok :)15:36
k1l_john__: its /etc/fstab15:37
john__k1l_: Yes got that cheers taking a look now15:39
k1l_!fstab | john__15:39
ubottujohn__: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.pclosmag.com/html/Issues/200709/page07.html and !Partitions15:39
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alberto_80nacc Same result here15:40
alberto_80:(15:40
naccalberto_80: same policy output?15:40
alberto_80nacc Yes, unfortunately15:41
naccalberto_80: can you pastebin `cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/flightgear` ?15:41
tyler_dwhat is the syntax to chroot an entire user? i've gone ahead and copied the entire contents of / over to where I want them jailed, but need the syntax?15:41
alberto_80nacc http://pastebin.com/ieuWTaim15:42
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naccalberto_80: syntax error, i think, no leading spaces (sorry, was trying to make clear what to put in the file in my paste)15:43
kl23Hi all, i read online i can NOT move window controls to right position (running Xenial). Could you please confirm ?  Thanks15:43
moat_joeDoes everything in /etc/security/limits.d get read without needing an include limits.d/* in limits.conf ?15:43
k1l_kl23: yes. its hardcoded.15:43
alberto_80nacc Ok, sorry, I'll fix that.15:43
kl23k1l_: Thanks15:44
john__k1l_: is it possible while I am fixing the fstab file I could damage a partition15:47
alberto_80nacc Ok, I fixed it, but I get the same policy output when I type "apt-cache policy flightgear"15:47
hdonhi all :) ubuntu seems to like to do a lot of things its own way. are there specific tools ubuntu community prefers to use for manipulating LVM, MD, and the like? partprobe keeps telling us we need to reboot and i wonder if there isn't some common ubuntu thing that we're not playing nice with and we're stepping on each other's toes.15:48
naccalberto_80: hrm, strange. Let's try one last thing. Go to the point of dpkg -i. Then run `apt-mark hold flightgear; apt-get -f install` ?15:48
ikoniahdon: what ubuntu only way are you talking about ?15:48
alberto_80nacc Ok15:48
hdonikonia, i don't know, that's why i'm asking :)15:49
ikoniahdon: ubuntu uses mostly standard tools from across all distros, with only a few canonical ubuntu specific deviations15:49
hdonah ok, thanks15:49
hdonany idea why partprobe keeps giving us this error?15:49
john__ubottu: is it possible while I am fixing the fstab file I could damage a partition15:49
ubottujohn__: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:49
ikoniawhat error ?15:49
ikoniajohn__: fstab is a file - how would it damage a partition ?15:49
joeliohdon: it may not be an error15:50
john__thanks ikonia15:50
joeliohdon: if you've changed the parition tables then sometimes you'll get that message..15:50
joelioif you're not doing anything, then that's something to investigate15:51
alberto_80nacc Flightgear set as retained.15:51
hdonwell we're partitioning and stuff15:51
joelioso.... :)15:51
hdonbut i'm unsure why partprobe(1) would tell us this15:51
ikoniapartitioning and stuff....15:51
ikoniacome on15:51
ikoniahdon: are you changing partitions on a disk that is in use in anyway ?15:51
ikoniaand that includes being part of a raid device with metadata being maintained15:52
alberto_80nacc http://pastebin.com/eVMWsqGk15:52
craigbass76I've got 16.04, but can't seem to find ssvncviewer in the repos. Where'd she go?15:52
hdonikonia, well if it were a normal file, i could use lsof to find if anything is using it, but i'm unsure what to do with partitions15:53
tyler_dikonia how did you chroot jail your users? I'm not quite wrapping my head around that process for new users when they login15:53
ikoniatyler_d: I've not chroot jailed my users15:53
joeliohdon: "Everything is a file"15:53
ikoniahdon: what are you talking about ????15:53
hdonikonia, would lsof and mount cover every possible case?15:53
ikonialsof ????15:53
ikoniaif you're looking at lsof it must be mounted15:53
hdonjoelio, everything is a file, but lsof won't say if a kernel module has mounted a filesystem on a given partition, will it? i thought lsof only looked at userland processes15:54
ikoniakernel module mounted a file system ???15:54
ikoniahdon: is the disk you are trying to partition in use in any way, mounted, maintaining a raid meta data status15:54
joeliohdon: you're not making much sense tbh dude15:54
ikoniait's an easy question, with a yes/no respones15:55
joelioplus not sure what you're trying to do - in the grand scheme15:55
naccalberto_80: ah sorry, the 'holds' wont' change the policy15:56
nacccraigbass76: ssvncviewer? no such package in ubuntu, afaict15:56
joelionacc: yea, may need to pin - but I'd check there's not another source listetd in /etc/apt/sources.list{.d/thing.list}15:56
nacccraigbass76: you mean ssvnc?15:57
joelionacc: although could be that the package installs the source repo lol15:57
craigbass76nacc, I just found it -- yes ssvnc. Any idea how to grab it without getting openjava?15:57
* joelio not checked15:57
craigbass76It's on a box that has to use Sun's java15:57
alberto_80nacc It says it depends on libopenscenegraph80 among others... But these packages are no longer available in Ubuntu 16.0415:57
yaxxinoHi there , i have problem, it says " failed to start light display manager " when i boot , i get directly to the shell propmpt , what can i do ??15:57
joeliocraigbass76: is it just a vnc client? just use reminna or somethng15:58
joeliojava, yuk :D15:58
joelioit's not the greatest but - http://www.remmina.org/wp/15:58
joelioavailable in apt15:58
naccalberto_80: ah, so that changed something, at least :)15:59
craigbass76joelio, It was the only one I could find that scaled. I'll try the other one15:59
naccalberto_80: and means you can't use that package in 16.04 :/15:59
naccalberto_80: not easily, at least15:59
yaxxinoshould i reinstall light display manager or start it manually ??15:59
joeliocraigbass76: "Remote desktops with higher resolutions are scrollable/scalable in both window and fullscreen mode.15:59
alberto_80nacc Ok, I understand15:59
john__Is there a reason why my new 2TB 3.5" internal drive, that I installed today can NOT be formatted with a smaller than 2TB partition. There are no options to resize when creating a partition. In fact it does not even allow me to create a partition. It only allows me to format and forces me to use the entire size of the drive15:59
yaxxino?16:00
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alberto_80nacc Should I build FlightGear 3.0.0 from source, then?16:00
joelioalberto_80: I'd just get more ram dude and upgrade :D16:00
naccalberto_80: i mean, it'll need the same deps, i presume16:00
naccyaxxino: i don't understand why reinstall or start are the choices?16:01
alberto_80Ok, thank you very much for your help. :)16:01
joeliojohn__: you can partition a drive whatever size you want16:01
joeliotry gparted16:01
yaxxinonacc ; so what can i do, am a noob sorry16:01
naccjohn__: what doesn't let you change the paritions?16:01
yaxxinonacc; would upgrading fix the problem ?16:02
yaxxino?16:02
joelioyaxxino: apt-get install lightdm --reinstall16:02
naccyaxxino: i don't what the problem is, so it's hard for me to say16:02
joelioyaxxino: that'll give you lightdm installed16:03
joelioand will allow you to chose16:03
joelioof course, YMMV!16:03
yaxxinojoelio ; chose what ??16:03
MrokiiHello. I have a problem with Kubuntu, but I think it may be related to Ubuntu as well. I have installed Kubuntu 16.04 on a laptop and forgot the password. I tried to change it via grub and the root-console (which seemed to work) but now when I enter the password on the graphical login-screen, all buttons become greyed out and nothing else happens (besides the cursor becoming an X). And ideas what could have16:03
Mrokiigone wrong?16:03
joelioyaxxino: choose youre display manager and alos, if you have gdm, allow you to set gdm or lightdm to be the window login manager16:04
joelioman my grammar is bad today16:04
ErigeQuick question. I echo my /sys/devices/platform/dell-laptop/leds/dell\:\:kbd_backlight/stop_timeout to be 10m which sticks until I reboot. On reboot its set back to 1m, any way to make this setting stick?16:04
yaxxinonacc: the problem is that it fails to start lightdm , when i boot up !16:06
ErigeMrokii: Did you have encryption or anything turned on?16:06
john__Can anyone help me with this issue  Is there a reason why my new 2TB 3.5" internal drive, that I installed today can NOT be formatted with a smaller than 2TB partition. There are no options to resize when creating a partition. In fact it does not even allow me to create a partition. It only allows me to format and forces me to use the entire size of the drive16:06
ikoniajohn__: how are you partitioning it ?16:06
john__ext416:07
john__have no need for ntfs etc16:07
MrokiiErige: I'm not sure, but I don't think so. I had just freshly installed Kubuntu on the lap.16:07
ikoniajohn__: no, I mean how are you actually trying to partition it ?16:07
john__only use ubuntu16:07
enonOn to a different subject I 'm in the process of installing the recommened packages of the unbutu packaging guide. my question on a single user system is there any benifit to installing apt-file cache in system vs user areas?16:07
yaxxinonacc: i said how about upgrading, would that fix the issue ??16:07
ErigeMorkii: If its a fresh install, maybe just reinstall to set new password?16:07
ikoniaenon: I do'nt see why16:08
john__Oh sorry using the disk manager gnome-disk-utility 3.10.016:08
joelioyaxxino: hence why I put the --reinstall line ;)16:08
ikoniajohn__: install and launch gparted16:08
ikoniajohn__: you'll get bet error output if there is a real problem16:08
john__okay16:08
MrokiiErige: I am thinking about that, yes.16:08
yaxxinojoelio , yes i will try it , i just want to make sure , cause i have to get out of irssi , to run the command ..16:08
naccyaxxino: i don't know, it seems like joelio is helping16:09
Erigejohn_: gnome-disk-utility you have to set the size in MB when formatting try using gparted16:09
enonikonia, I'm new to debian/ubuntu packaging being used to rpm on fedora so I don't know16:09
yaxxinoyaxxino: i"ll try the command and get back to you , thanks!16:09
yaxxinojoelio!16:10
ErigeMorkii: That is what I would do, easier than trying to trying to fix it, since its a fresh install.16:10
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MrokiiErige: Probably, yes.16:11
john__ikonia: thanks installing gparted, i am trying to edit my fstab file to make my internal 1TB and 2TB auto mount. There is no reference to the two drives at all. I have never edited the fstab file before Can you help me with some simple questions16:11
naccenon: well, one needs sudo to write and one doesn't16:11
meh__how could  i  disable sme characteristics of chromium "editing the rules file"?16:12
meh__https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/blob/master/build_templates/debian/rules  this si what i need  "or update this rules file to the  quilt api"16:12
Erigejohn_: here is also a good referance https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab16:12
john__Erige: Yes I am reading that, Although I can not find out if between the text in the coloumns do I use a TAB or space?16:13
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naccmeh__: are you building the package yourself?16:14
enonnacc, good point but I installed the packages with sudo and apt-file which was called by the install process installed to usr home directory on I missing something?16:14
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naccenon: not apt-file itself, but where the cache lives. to update the system cache you need to run `sudo apt-file update`. Otherwise it will update/create the per-user one (iirc)16:15
enoner am instead of on16:15
Erigejohn_: It doesnt matter, I usually space things out to line up with the other entries16:16
enonnacc, ok so I have to run apt-file purge as user then sudo apt-file update -thanks16:18
naccenon: right, and reading the cache can be done w/o sudo, it's just updating it16:19
hdonikonia, it's not mounted16:20
hdonjoelio, sorry16:20
ikoniahdon: wasn't my full question16:20
alxpaHow do I find the IP I use for local ssg16:20
alxpaSsh16:20
enonnacc, I get -just peaved about the extr step but am glad I asked16:20
alxpaI typed ifconfig and lo and wlan0 are the two things that come up16:21
john__Erige cool thanks, First time I am trying to edit this file, did not know it even existed until tonight, can you help me with the Options16:21
klorrnI have s=big folders and i want to burn them in DVD , how can i do that in ubuntu ???16:22
Erigejohn_:  Sure I just came back from arch linux so fstab is pretty simple lol16:22
klorrni have Xfburn but  it's very complicated , any help please ..16:24
Erigejohn_: Is it a standard hard drive?16:24
john__Erige: okay give me a minute I am still working it out, Want to see if I can get it right16:24
Erigejohn_: Sounds good16:24
klorrnis there a simper burning software instead of xfburn ??16:25
Faresislamhi16:26
UserUSklorrn: poweriso16:26
klorrnUserUS : can i burn whole directory , or i need to compress the files first ??16:27
UserUSklorrn: you can do a directory, even make an iso from it and build your own with it16:28
john__Erige: you still here I am ready now16:29
Erigejohn_; O am16:29
Erigejohn_: I am16:29
john__not sure about a few commands and the order of the options but will show what i have so far16:29
joelioklorrn: cdrecord, lol..16:30
john__# /dev/sdb/mnt/sdbext4auto,nosuid,user,exec,rw,async16:30
john__Erige: # /dev/sdb/mnt/sdbext4auto,nosuid,user,exec,rw,async16:30
joelioklorrn: it's called wodim or something now afair16:31
john__that includes the device and mount as I am not sure about those either16:31
joeliocan't get simpler than that16:31
joeliojohn__: so have you tried to run #sudo mount -a ?16:31
john__joelio: No will that set the drive to auto mount everytime I boot16:32
Erigejohn_:  If you have the # That is  comment so that line would be ignored. Also I would recommend using the UUID becuase /dev/sdb can change upon boots16:32
joelioyea, what Erige said - you can get the UUID from #blkid16:33
joelioand anything set in /etc/fstab will mount (unless the specific mount has an option telling it not too, like _netdev for network devices.. sometimes you don't want to wait to mount them if you're offline etc)16:33
john__joelio or Erige: what should the dump column and pass column have?16:36
dbz2kI really dont how to fix this qt app error "Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x40807) with this library (version 0x40806)"16:36
ErigeI would use 0 and 116:37
john__Erige what is the suid/nosuid do, Not sure what to use?16:38
Erigejohn_: Those are for user ids I wouldnt use them16:40
adminisnotadminwhat up16:41
winston2khello16:41
hdonikonia, when you ask about raid metadata, what do you mean? is that the data in the partition that MD uses to automatically assemble your RAIDs?16:41
john__Erige: Okay so far I have this let me know what you think16:42
john__/dev/sdb/mnt/sdbext4auto,nosuid,user,exec,rw,async,dev0116:43
john__Erige: just about to get the UID in there16:43
ducassejohn__: auto, exec, rw, async and dev are default on - you don't need to set them explicitly.16:45
Erigejohn_: I would replace all your options with default16:46
Erigelol16:46
Erigeyeah that16:46
john__Erige: Huh? confused now, this is what i have so far: UUID=654eb5e5-fb9c-447d-a0ee-5cc7c0b53c36/mnt/654eb5e5-fb9c-447d-a0ee-5cc7c0b53c36ext4auto,nosuid,user,exec,rw,async,dev0116:47
Erigejohn_: also relatime, or noatime would be usefull. Is it a SSD?16:47
john__Normal HDD NOT a SSD16:47
Erigejohn_: you dont need the /mnt....... also replace your options with default,relatime16:48
ducassejohn__: you don't need to mount at /mnt/654eb...etc, you can use whatever you want, like /storage16:48
john__Erige: okay give me minute to fix it up16:49
JackJacksonHello all. I am on Ubuntu gnome and I would like to know how I can completely remove mumble, this includes saved servers, certificates and so on.16:49
Erigeducasse: Thanks, thats a bit clearer than what i said16:49
ErigeJackJackson: sudo apt-get purge mumble16:50
JackJacksonI did that Erige, but it was still able to remember my previous cert and saved servers?16:50
ErigeDo you have to login with an account?16:50
john__Erige: How is this now: UUID=654eb5e5-fb9c-447d-a0ee-5cc7c0b53c36/mnt/2TBSEA-INText4default,relatime0116:51
Erigejohn_: Looks perfect16:51
JackJacksonYes Erige I believe so16:51
tewardJackJackson: look for something starting with a . in the folder name with 'mumble'.  Per-user configuration settings and data are stored in user accounts, so you would have to erasify that data folder16:51
tewardit'd be in your home folder16:51
john__Awesome do I need to restart to test this?16:51
ErigeThat would be the best16:51
JackJacksonthe admin of the mumble server will remove my old account so I can make a new one16:51
ducassejohn__: 'sudo mount -a'16:52
JackJacksonteward: unable to find .mumble in home folder16:52
john__Erige: will the sudo gedit command allow me to make the change to fstab when I save my changes?16:52
Erigejohn_: I would get gksu16:52
Erigeand use gksudo16:52
john__Erige: Huh, so the app to download is gksu and the command is gksudo? sounds really confusing16:54
tewardJackJackson: it may be inside .config/ then with the name 'mumble', but I'm not going to hand-hold to find it.  Most things in the user space will store things there.16:55
squintyJackJackson,  if you are using a file manager, such as nautilus, to look for .mumble, make sure that "show hidden files" is turned on in the file manager.16:56
Erigeyeah16:56
Erigesudo apt-get install gksu16:56
JackJacksonFound it https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Client_Settings16:56
ErigeYou use gksudo for and graphical program that needs sudo rights16:56
Erigeso gksudo gedit16:57
Erigebut sudo nano since its command line based16:57
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john__sudo nano?16:57
john__i thought sudo gedit was enough to write to the fstab file? Am I wrong?16:57
john__Erige : I thought sudo gedit was enough to write to the fstab file? Am I wrong?16:58
squintynano = terminal text editor16:58
tgm4883john__: generally using sudo with graphical applications is a bad idea16:58
Erigejohn_: It can cause some issues, I just use sudo as terminal commands and gksudo for graphical programs16:59
john__Erige: okay got ya now i am get it thanks16:59
Erigejohn_: no problem17:00
kshenoyWhat's the difference between the i3 and i3-wm package?17:00
ikoniaones the window manager, ones the desktop17:01
blinkybHi. Please how can i change the background on the lock screen for Ubuntu MATE?17:01
ioria!info i3 | kshenoy17:02
ubottukshenoy: i3 (source: i3-wm): metapackage (i3 window manager, screen locker, menu, statusbar). In component universe, is optional. Version 4.11-1 (xenial), package size 1 kB, installed size 21 kB17:02
kshenoy!info i3-wm17:03
ubottui3-wm (source: i3-wm): improved dynamic tiling window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.11-1 (xenial), package size 606 kB, installed size 1798 kB17:03
kshenoyioria: ikonia: Got it. Thanks17:03
ioriakshenoy, np17:03
ioriakshenoy,  for info about metapackage https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages17:04
john__Erige: How come on my 2TB internal it will only format to 1.82TB it is using 200GB for something not sure what?17:08
Erigejohn_: because in computer world 1024mb is a gig and in the retail world 1000mb is a gig17:08
Erigeso take 1000X200017:09
Erigedevide it by 1024 = actual size17:09
ekanshHello?17:09
ioriacould be the lost+found , but 200 is a lot17:09
JackJacksonHey, another Mumble on Ubuntu question. When I want to add a server I don't see any password fields?17:09
john__Erige: lol I remember that now, Sorry. So just about ready to reboot will catch ya on the flip side  hope it all works, thanks for your help so far17:10
kshenoyI want to connect to VPN using network manager so I installed openconnect, network-manager-openconnect and network-manager-openconnect-gnome. However, I can't find the option to create a new Cisco Anyconnect VPN connection under Network Manager > Edit Connections > Add. What am I missing here?17:11
ducassekshenoy: did you restart network manager?17:12
kshenoyducasse: I restarted ubuntu itself. Is that  sufficient?17:13
john__Eriga: What partition table should I choose for this drive I am suing Gparted as the default disk manager from install would not allow me to specify the partition size?17:14
ikoniagpt for a big disk17:15
ikoniay17:15
ikoniaoop17:15
john__ikonia: thanks, what about the Align to: MIB/cylinder/None?17:16
ikoniaup to you17:16
ikoniayou're not going to have a problem with that size of a disk17:17
john__ikonia: should i just take the default options without chnaging anything?17:17
ikoniaunless you have reason to change something17:17
john__will just leave it then as I do not know what difference they make17:17
ducassejohn__: most tools these days align automatically.17:17
ubuntu293How do I access my drives from ubuntu live_17:21
baizonubuntu293: mount them17:21
ubuntu293how17:21
ubuntu293theres no option to mount them in gparted17:22
compdoctry the Disks util17:22
baizonubuntu293: https://askubuntu.com/questions/177825/how-to-mount-an-external-hdd17:22
ubuntu293weird that it works all of a sudden.. anyway, when chosing guided installation, this happens http://i.imgur.com/sC6myV1.jpg?117:27
ubuntu293why does it want sdd_17:27
ubuntu293I just want it to install on sdc17:27
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ubuntu293Id much rather use the guided installation cause Ill probably fail with manual17:29
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k1l_ubuntu293: dont install 15.04. that is already outdated. load a 15.10 or better 16.04 iso and install that from the start17:31
ubuntu293k1l_: why not just upgrade after instead of spending time having to find another disc to load the new one ont17:32
zkopwas convinced to try ubuntu, but can't connect to wifi - keeps throwing me into an endless loop of "authentication required by wi-fi network"17:33
zkoppls17:33
k1l_ubuntu293: yes, that works, too. but i the days of usb-pendrives that should not be such an issue. since upgrading to 15.10 will take some time to load all updates.17:33
reisiozkop: type your password correctly17:33
zkopI did17:34
ubuntu293I dont have a usb, so ill it afterwards then, thanks anyway17:34
posiHow does one disable core dumps in #ubuntu17:34
ubuntu293but right now I cant install it anyway, since it wants to use sdd as seen in my image, and I dont know why17:34
k1l_ubuntu293: it doesnt.it talks about scsi3 which is sdc17:35
k1l_but i dont know why it lists scsi5 (sdd) there.17:35
ubuntu293yeah thats what im wondering17:35
ubuntu293id rather not take any chances17:35
ubuntu293ill just install it manually then, what partitions do I need to make on a clean drive, the guids I followed havent worked17:36
k1l_3 partitions: / ext4, /home ext4 and swap. i would say 15GB for /, swap = ram, rest for /home17:37
odroidhi17:37
ubuntu293k1l_: no boot or anything? also where are programs installed, is it in /home or /17:39
reisio/17:39
k1l_no, boot is not neccessary. and programs are installed on /, when they are installed through the ubuntu repos.17:40
ubuntu293so itll be just like my windows then, not being able to install anything cause quote C quote was only given so much memory17:40
ubuntu293is there a way to not have such a limit, as I only see it being annoying in the future17:41
daxif you don't want a separate /home partition, just make a / partition17:41
k1l_ubuntu293: you can just make / and swap if you like then.17:42
k1l_but 15Gb for a regular desktop install is quite plents. dont compare to the windows install sizes. ubuntu uses way less space for the system than windows.17:43
ubuntu293but I assume theres a reason to do it like you said isnt there? i know in windows its only an annoyance and doesnt make anything easier, but idk about ubuntu17:43
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* reisio only ever does / & swap17:44
reisioubuntu293: some people think a separate /home makes reinstalls simpler17:44
daxpeople recommend separate /home so that reinstalls are easier. i don't bother and just restore from backups on reinstall17:44
k1l_yes. you seperate userdata from system. so in case of reinstall you can keep all userdata/configs. but i guess you just want / and swap then.17:44
daxbecause if you don't have good enough backups to do that, you should fix that problem.17:44
reisioubuntu293: but it doesn't /really/17:44
reisioand reinstallation isn't something you should really be bothering with unless you change architecture17:45
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xanguaOr distro :-(17:45
k1l_but a full / is way less drastic as it is on windows.17:45
ubuntu293my windows C is 120gb and I install everything I can on other drives17:46
reisioyeah, all those shared deps17:46
ubuntu293Nor do I store anything on C17:46
reisiommm17:46
reisiosounds like you just want / and swap17:46
k1l_ubuntu293: that is way different on ubuntu as i told already.17:46
reisiothough as k1l_ says it is less of a concern17:46
reisiobut there's also no issue using only / & swap17:46
Guest60182I know sound in linux was originally OSS that you could write to the dev's files like /dev/dsp. Then eventually  OSS got replaced with the ALSA sound architecture . My issue is what changes so that you cann't write directly to device files to play sound. I have seen the devices files are under /dev/snd/ folder17:46
k1l_make a cointoss :)17:46
reisioGuest60182: you can; /nick soundguy17:47
ubuntu293ext4 right17:47
k1l_Guest60182: its pulseaudio since some time now17:47
SaintMoriartyHello, I am running out of space because of my /var/lib/mysql/ folder and wanted to see how i can mount it to my /bigstorage/mysql which is another drive.17:47
SaintMoriartyCan I get some direction please. I am not sure if I should be using mount bind or symlink ....17:47
Guest60182I have used /proc to analysis the different device files to know which /dev/pcmxxx are sinks and which are sources  so i know i got the correct device files to send things to i just get write option invalid or permission denid17:48
reisioSaintMoriarty: some other things you might do to reclaim space first17:48
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tgm4883SaintMoriarty: if you don't get an answer here, you might try #ubuntu-server I would usually do a symlink, but I'm unsure if that would cause any issues with mysql17:48
SaintMoriartyreisio, what do you recommend?17:49
ubuntu293http://i.imgur.com/sC6myV1.jpg17:49
Guest53256hi17:49
ubuntu293This okay then_17:49
Guest60182This works for playing it in alsa cat /dev/urandom | padsp tee /dev/audio > /dev/null17:49
SaintMoriartyi ran du -h / | grep '[0-9\.]\+G' and my mysql folder is the significant one17:49
reisiohttps://wiki.debian.org/ReduceDebian17:49
daxsigh17:49
Guest60182but why do you have to go thru padsp to do it ?17:50
daxfor anyone who doesn't already know, that librairc stuff is nonsense17:50
duikerwhy so?17:50
ubuntu293I.. think my image should be alright, but not gonna go on without someone double checking17:50
Guest60182OSS you could just open a file descriptor for you /dev/dsp ... and then just uses ioctl , read ,write to do anything you pretty much wanted17:51
duikerdax: why do you say its nonsense?17:52
daxduiker: because it's untrue17:52
tgm4883duiker: that's why^17:52
naccheh17:53
SaintMoriartytgm4883, is there a way to create the symlink and move all the current files/folders with same permissions?17:53
ubuntu293k1l_: http://i.imgur.com/sC6myV1.jpg?117:53
duikerso they are not really merging?17:53
tgm4883SaintMoriarty: rsync17:53
daxduiker: that is what "untrue" implies, yes17:53
Guest60182I should beable to still get an alsa  device files file descriptor , and do an ioctl to tweak its settings17:53
Guest60182still17:53
duikerhuh, and here I thought "untrue" implied "true" this whole time.17:53
Guest60182so whats holding the alsa settings from allowing one to write/read17:53
rbasakSaintMoriarty: I would use a bind mount. There are some known bugs around maintainer scripts and handling symlinks and direct mounts (where lost+found appears).17:54
rbasakI'm not aware of any failure cases if you use a bind mount.17:54
dar123i have a problem in ipv6 dns lookup, v4 works fine17:54
rbasakAssuming that it happens long before mysqld starts17:54
k1l_ubuntu293: i dont know the kubuntu installer and dont know why it lists to change the partition table of sdd there.17:54
ubuntu293k1l_: I just want you to tell me if I did the partitions correctly for installing on /sdc .)17:56
Guest60182I guess i want to understand the inner workings of how alsa is restricting access even at lower levels  then itself. Maybe the device files them selfs for alsa audio where changed to not provide writing / reading from without a vaild particular type of handle that has to be obtained from alsa ... don't know just guessing for the moment anybody know more17:56
Guest60182on this irc17:56
ubuntu293k1l_: sry I didnt realy it was the wrong image, here is what I meant http://i.imgur.com/TMb1Gcd.jpg?117:57
k1l_ubuntu293: i dont see the size. i only see a swap and a ext4.17:57
naccGuest60182: this seems like a better question for #linux or an alsa-specific channel17:57
k1l_ubuntu293: yes, looks right.17:58
ubuntu293and for bootloader, sdc or sdc1?17:58
k1l_Guest60182: you might want to ask the alsa guys then17:58
Guest60182so padsp i know what the pulse audio is kind of doing its redirecting the stuff to OSS devices but i don't see /dev/dsp so kind of don't get how its by passing alsa17:59
ubuntu293k1l_: should the bootloader be on sdc or sdc1?18:00
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Guest60182where is the /dev/ for oss if your using pulseaudio?18:00
Guest60182won't they need to create dev/dsp18:00
k1l_ubuntu293: not in a partition. on the hdd. but the one that gets booted first.18:00
ubuntu293so just sdc then18:01
erebel55is there a daemonize package somewhere for ubuntu18:03
naccerebel55: what would that package do?18:03
erebel55I'm trying to do this18:03
erebel55daemonize -E BUILD_ID=dontKillMe /path/to/your/command18:04
naccerebel55: what is daemonize? it's a program you have used before?18:04
Fuchsscreen, tmux or  & disown18:04
erebel55it runs a command as a daemon. there is probably a different way to do it on ubuntu18:05
rbasakThere's start-stop-daemon. With systemd, there's systemd-run.18:05
Guest60182on a different not why does one have to by root to  echo to /dev/kmsg  to actually get it to appear in dmesg. Its not available for sudoer's seems weird how is that?18:05
erebel55I found it here https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Spawning+processes+from+build18:05
naccGuest60182: make sure you are using the echo binary not the shell built-in?18:05
rbasakGuest60182: if you're doing sudo echo ... > /dev/kmsg, that won't work as the > is done by your shell, not by sudo or the root's shell.18:06
rbasakYou could probably do something like sudo -- sh -c 'echo ... > /proc/kmsg'18:06
tgm4883or use tee18:06
Bray90820_mobileSo I'm having an issue with ubuntu 16.04 X86 live USB I have tried to boot it twice now the first time i saw the unity desktop flash then it went black the second time it was purple18:06
tgm4883eg "echo 'deb blah # blah' | sudo tee --append /etc/apt/sources.list"18:07
Guest60182ya thats my issue18:08
Guest60182thanks18:08
nairwolfWhen there is updated packages, it is possible to have information about what has been updated from apt ?18:12
nairwolfI would like to know if it's a bug fix or a security update, or whatever18:13
nairwolfUsually, I'm going to launchpad to see what's new on the package, what was the purpose of the last update. Is it possible directly from apt ?18:13
k1l_nairwolf: apt-get changelog package18:13
nairwolfok, thank you k1l_ ;)18:14
fenecohow to restart x on ubuntu 16?18:24
jimmy55is unetbootin the best way to go on xubuntu?18:24
daxno18:25
reisiofeneco: sudo service lightdm restart18:25
daxunetbootin isn't the best way to go on anything18:25
reisiojimmy55: for what?18:25
jimmy55then what to use?18:25
jimmy55reisio, obviously a bootable usb drive18:25
reisiojimmy55: for installing xubuntu from?18:25
OerHeksfeneco, sudo service lightdm restart18:25
jimmy55no18:25
jimmy55ubuntu18:25
reisiojimmy55: unetbootin should work fine18:25
jimmy55must I add their repos18:26
fenecoOerHeks: is it supposed to close all programs?18:26
tgm4883feneco: yes, restarting X would close all programs18:26
reisiojimmy55: hrmm?18:26
tgm4883jimmy55: can you explain what your end goal is?18:26
fenecoi tried service lightdm restart but it didn't work, so I tried service gdm restart18:26
fenecothen it restarted18:26
jimmy55it says here I gotta add their repos https://unetbootin.github.io/linux_download.html18:26
jimmy55which I just did18:27
fenecois that because i'm using ubuntu-gnome?18:27
tgm4883feneco: what release are you on?18:27
tgm4883feneco: possibly18:27
reisiojimmy55: should be in 'universe': http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&keywords=unetbootin18:27
fenecook, thanks OerHeks  tgm4883 :)18:27
jimmy55well I just followed the instructions on that page I linked reisio and installed it18:27
OerHeksfeneco, so you are not on ubuntu 16.0418:27
jimmy55is that okay?18:27
OerHeks?18:27
tgm4883jimmy55: so you are on Xubuntu 16.04, and want to install Ubuntu 16.04 to the same machine?18:27
reisiojimmy55: probably fine, yes18:27
reisiojimmy55: I wouldn't recommend making a habit of such behavior, though18:28
fenecoOerHeks: I am on ubuntu-gnome 16.0418:28
reisiojimmy55: best to check official repos first18:28
jimmy55I'm on xubuntu 1418:28
reisiojimmy55: that should be fine18:29
jimmy55sweet18:29
jimmy55I just did this to remove it; sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:gezakovacs/ppa18:29
jimmy55that is correct, right?18:29
reisioif it's removed, I s'pose so18:30
compdocdoes gezakovacs show up if you run: sudo apt-get update18:30
OerHeksfeneco, oke, proceed18:31
h82or8where do i find a list of amd graphics chipsets are are being tested (older) for future inclusion to the radeon driver (not a list of those already included)?18:32
fenecoOerHeks: http://termbin.com/2dof18:32
feneconot sure how to get that I am on ubuntu gnome18:32
fenecois there a way to check which ubuntu version is running from terminal? if it's ubuntu-gnome, kubuntu, lubuntu, etc?18:34
OerHeksgnome uses gdm, ubuntu/unity lightdm18:34
jimmy55nop it didn't show up compdoc18:35
BluesKajno sddm on ubuntu?18:35
jimmy55unetbootin takes care of the formating of the drive before setting it up, right?18:35
Bashing-omfeneco: ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ' .18:35
erebel55anyone know why I'm getting "nohup: ignoring input and appending output to `nohup.out`"18:36
erebel55when I run18:36
h82or8feneco: inxi -S18:36
erebel55sudo nohup service omniwar start18:36
daxwhy are you putting nohup there18:37
daxthings started with service are supposed to run daemonized anyway18:37
erebel55dax, I'm starting it via Jenkins18:37
erebel55http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16667898/start-daemon-on-remote-server-via-jenkins-ssh-shell-script-exits-mysteriously18:37
erebel55dax, I'm trying to make the process persist after ssh disconnect18:39
jimmy55nvm got it18:39
daxi have zero jenkins experience, sorry18:39
jimmy55I'm trying it without formating18:39
jimmy55will that work18:39
netametahow can i search my entire folder for supervisord18:40
erebel55dax, it's not really that related to jenkins. Basically my jenkins calls a script that does some linux commands18:40
erebel55So it does a ssh to my server and then starts a server on it18:40
erebel55*service18:40
erebel55And I want the service to persist after the ssh is disconnected18:40
bray9082_So I am getting a black screen after selecting try ubuntu without installing with the live disc18:40
Bashing-om!nomodeset | bray9082_18:41
ubottubray9082_: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter18:41
bray9082_Thanks18:42
fenecoh82or8: nothing by default?18:42
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Bashing-ombray9082_: If after that ^, there are still problems; holler back at us . We are here to help .18:43
enonAlright sports fans, I'm am trying to build CEGUI from 14.04 sfrom source and install it on 16.06. I asked on #cegui and was told it would behave on 16.04 (version 0.76 along with version 0.8.4). I retriieved the orig source ,the debian.tar pkg and the dsc file fron packaqges.ubuntu.com I did a search for instructions but all I found is what to do with a new source compile not where to put the debian folderannd dsc file or how to use them any pointers?18:45
radiance2Hi! I upgraded my Ubuntu to 16.04 a couple of hours ago. Since I have a dual-boot machine I wanted to check whether or not my other OS still works. Unfortunately although I updated the GRUB still have issues with keyboard once I'd like to select the adjacent OS. In one word, can somebody help what I should do for having my keyboard control back in BIOS?18:45
bray9082_Bashing-om: Well I have tried "acpi_osi=" and "acpi=off"18:45
ikoniaenon: read up on debian packaging18:46
ikoniaenon: be aware though, especially with the dependencies it's not as simple as copying the desc file and rebuilding the package with a later tarball18:46
rootbetoexit18:46
radiance2hello?!18:49
bray9082_Bashing-om: I am not really sure if I am doing things right but I have tried three options "acpi_osi=" and "acpi=off" and acpi_osi="Linux" and they did not work18:49
Bashing-ombray9082_: Those are power management options .. Do not see a relationship there to graphics . This a laptop .. and with power issues ?18:50
bray9082_Sorry my bad no this is a desktop18:50
enonikonia: I found a debian packaqging guide - upgrading from 14.04 broke cegui for a package I was working on18:51
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bray9082_Bashing-om: disregard what I have done18:51
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Bashing-ombray9082_: We work with you at your pace .. but heed advise given . Black screen is generally a graphic's issue .18:52
bray9082_Yes18:53
radiance2I'm new to these channel. Should wait for someone to help?18:53
Bashing-om!ask | radiovstv18:54
ubotturadiovstv: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:54
radiovstvwhat18:55
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Bashing-omradiovstv: sorry .. bad hightlight .. the other poster left.. I did not verify the ping .18:55
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ErigeAnyone know how I can get echo 10m > /sys/devices/platform/dell-laptop/leds/dell\:\:kbd_backlight/stop_timout   to persist through boot19:02
bray9082_Bashing-om: I think were on the same page now and I think I have done nomodeset correctly and it's still not working19:03
bray9082_I also tried modeset=0 and that gave me a purple screen19:03
ikoniaErige: should be a kernel parameter for that19:04
Erigeikonia: how would i go about setting that up?19:04
ikoniaErige: get the parameter name and put it in /etc/sysctl.conf19:04
ikoniaor offer it as a boot argument to the kernel19:04
Erigeikonia: thanks19:05
ZythyrNeed help. Does anyone know how I can convert a SVG file to BMP file?19:05
Bashing-ombray9082_: K; show us in a pastebin, what we are working with - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' - .19:05
ikoniaZythyr: open it in a graphics edit and export it ?19:06
bray9082_Bashing-om: Can't really pstebin anything if I can't boot19:06
Zythyrikonia Is it possible to do it iwht command line? I tried inkscape but its not working19:06
ikoniaZythyr: do you know of a graphics convert that supports svg ? (inkscape ?)19:07
ikoniaZythyr: sorry imagemagik19:07
Zythyrikonia Let me try imagemagic19:07
blinkybis there any way I can change the Power icon on Ubuntu MATE?19:07
mguyblinkyb: what have you tried19:08
ikoniahe's tried asking in here19:08
Bashing-ombray9082_: So, what can you boot to ? do you get as far as a grub boot menu - oler hardware is the shift key to make the menu appear .19:08
momelodgreetings channel.19:08
ikoniablinkyb: do you reseaerch anything before asking ?19:08
blinkybmguy: LightDM GTK+ doesnt seem to help, thats the only thing i tried19:08
ikonialightDM ? thats a window manager19:09
momelodis anyone aware of a tool that would let me search through multiple files for a block and text and do a search/replace on that block?19:09
ikoniawhat did you do wiht lightdm to change it19:09
ikoniamomelod: grep and sed19:09
erebel55shouldn't this start my FPSGame-Server-Linux-DebugGame service?19:09
erebel55http://i.imgur.com/dMSHnrw.png19:09
blinkybikonia: search the net but nothing's availeble19:09
ikoniablinkyb: did you read any of the mate documentation19:09
erebel55I am running sudo service omniwar start19:09
shatnerzHey, any ideas why a display port monitor may not be detected. I'm using a dvi to displayPort adapter. I tested it in windows and it works. Im running ubuntu 14.0419:09
ikoniablinkyb: any of the mate theme documentation19:09
erebel55and nothing starts19:09
momelodikonia: yeah, but im having a hard time with that cause the block im searching for is bigish and has lots of special chars that are throwing me off19:10
bray9082_Bashing-om: I am using the live cd 16.04 x86 and all i can get to is grub19:10
erebel55sudo service omniwar status shows that it is started. but I don't see it on ps aux19:10
ikoniamomelod: put the block of text in a file and use it as a litteral input to grep19:10
blinkybikonia: no19:10
ikoniablinkyb: does that not strike you as something thats worth doing - reading the documentation about the product your asking about ?19:10
blinkybikonia: where is it19:11
Bashing-ombray9082_: And in this liveCD. booting to the menu . F6 gives you the option to employ "nomodeset"; what results ?19:11
ikoniablinkyb: what is the product called....19:11
bray9082_Bashing-om: I am hitting tab and entering nomodeset that way because non of the fuction keys bring up any menu19:13
bray9082_it says press tab to edit a menu entry19:14
bray9082_So i enter nomodeset and press enter and then it boots to a black screen19:14
ioriabray9082_, you know your video card model ? nvidia ?19:14
Bashing-ombray9082_: That will work also to use the parameter. key combo ctl+x .. best I recall for the liveCD to continue the boot process .. and then what results ? Will take a long time to load into ram and expand .19:16
bray9082_My video card model is some onboard VGA crap19:17
bray9082_Idk19:17
ioriabray9082_, what pc is that ?19:18
soee_kernel build for yakkety will work in xenial?19:18
ikoniano19:18
ikoniathats why it's for a different version19:18
soee_and it possible to have 4.6 in xenial?19:19
bray9082_ioria: It's some old dell that came with Windows server 2003 that my boss had19:19
ikoniasoee_: yes19:20
ioriasoee_, you can try mainline ppa .debs19:20
Guest60182curious /dev/log that a socket file that is somehow assocated with syslog file. Though when i do an lsof to see what uses it currently nothing on my machine. What is the purpose of this is it some network firewall log file mechanism19:20
soee_ioria: there is no 4.6 for xenial in mainline19:20
akikikonia: have you tested it? v4.6-yakkety installed without errors in xenial19:20
ikoniaakik: no, as I don't use software designed for the wrong version19:20
ioriasoee_, yep http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/19:20
ioriabray9082_, i'd try Lubuntu19:21
ikoniaioria: no19:21
ioriabray9082_,  14.0419:21
ikoniaioria: no xeinal there19:21
ioriaoh19:21
soee_ioria: and where do you see 4.6 for Xenial ? :)19:21
ortsvorsteher!imagemaker | ubottu19:21
ikoniasoee_: why do you want 4.619:22
ikoniaand please don't say "because it's later"19:22
ioriasorry understood yakkety19:22
Bashing-ombray9082_: +1 ^ " Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware." .19:22
bray9082_Bashing-om: what's the desktop environment in lubuntu?19:22
iorialxde19:23
cscfAs was mentioned^19:23
cscfLXDE is a light fork of XFCE, btw19:23
OerHeksLXDE is not a light fork of XFCE, anyway19:24
bray9082_Bashing-om: actually the first time I tied to boot ubuntu I did see unity flash for a second19:24
ioriacscf, lxde it's a fork of xfce ???19:24
OerHekscscf, not related at all19:24
cscfAh, I misread19:24
cscfIt was a light replacement19:24
Erigeikonia: Would adding echo '10m' > /sys/devices/platform/dell-laptop/leds/dell\:\:kbd_backlight/stop_timeout to rc.local work?19:25
ikoniaErige: I hate that as a solution personally19:25
ikonia(just a personal opinion)19:25
AmK11help19:25
ikoniaask a question then19:26
Erigeikonia: I'm not sure how to get it to work without it. If i just change it then reboot its back to 1m instead of 10m19:26
ikoniaErige: you need to find the kenel parameter name, put it in sysctl.conf or in as a kernel boot argument19:26
fuserhi. what is the default window manager for 16.04?19:28
OerHeksfuser, for what ubuntu version ??19:29
ioriasoee_, this guy did it, but not sure about it (at your risk) https://raonyguimaraes.com/how-to-install-kernel-4-6-on-ubuntu-16-04-xenial/19:32
BluesKaj4,6 makes kubuntu 16.04 run very well19:34
ioriaBluesKaj, you installed it ?19:35
BluesKajhave it on Lenovo laptop and HP desktop19:36
ioriaBluesKaj,  used ppa ?19:36
tobi_hi19:37
BluesKaji found a site with a script ..hang on I'll check my history19:37
ioriaBluesKaj,  thanx19:37
BluesKajioria,^19:37
tobi_does someone know something about proxychains / tsocks or something like that? i want to run the same program, multiple times through different proxys19:37
tobi_so for example one firefox goes through a proxy in england and another firefox goes through a proxy in spain19:38
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BluesKajioria, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/install-linux-kernel-4-6-ubuntu-16-04/19:40
ikoniathese urls and advice to use external kernel repos are bad19:40
renato_good evining19:40
ioriaBluesKaj,  thank you , yed used mainline19:40
renato_yes19:40
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BluesKajioria, there's a newer 4.6.1 version out but I haven't tried it...yes mainline19:41
ioriaBluesKaj,  ok, but i'm still a bit diffident .... :þ19:41
akikikonia: the instructions reference the kernel mainline19:41
ikoniaso ?19:41
erebel55does anyone know why my init.d script doesn't echo anything?19:42
erebel55http://pastebin.com/cxvDzBAv19:42
akikikonia: so it's not as bad as you make it sound19:42
ikoniaI think it is19:42
erebel55http://i.imgur.com/RaCajHf.png19:42
BluesKajikonia, no troubles at all on Xenial with the mainline 4.6 kernel19:43
ikoniaBluesKaj: "you" have had no troubles19:43
BluesKajhad it for a couple of weeks19:43
ikoniayou having no trouble doesn't mean it's a good idea19:43
ikoniawhile I'm pleased you've had no problems, these URL's pushing it to people blindly is just not good19:44
ioriathe devs have made it available for xenial ....19:44
ikoniaioria: they have made a development for specific use case testing available19:44
ioriaikonia,  oh, ok19:44
BluesKajiko wqell it;'s a given certain hardware may not run so well , but I don't have anything out of the ordinary , pretty generic nvidia and intel media and othe HP installed components19:46
BluesKajikonia,^19:46
ikoniaBluesKaj: again - I'm pleased for "you"19:46
BluesKajokok19:46
ikoniathese kernels are there for specific functions and testings, if you want to run it, thats great, but these sites pushing it blindly to people are not good19:46
akikthe mainline kernels use unmodified kernel source and ubuntu's configuration19:50
ikoniayes, hence why they are called mainline19:51
fluvianwhen I `su root` and then send a message using `write` or `wall`, it displays as a message from my own user instead of root. how does the system track this, and how can I send from *root* instead?19:51
ikoniasu root should not work as there is not unlocked root account19:52
akikfluvian: i guess you should use "su - root"19:52
k1l_fluvian: use sudo instead of su19:52
EriC^^fluvian: try sudo -i instead of su root19:52
k1l_sudo -i, if you need a root shell19:52
fluvianakik k1l_ EriC^^: `sudo -i`, `su -` and `su -l` all have the same problem19:55
lernerI bouht 2 kilos of frozen fish. I had to place them next to my laptop. My laptop became cold. I started my laptop, it worked, on password prompt a red alert appeared: "log in failed"; but I had not written anything. On entering my regular password it kept returning fails... I had to unplug it, restart it and this time it worked19:55
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lernerdoes temperature affect password behavior?19:55
ikoniano19:55
ioriafluvian, maybe because there is no root user ?19:55
OerHeksfishy problem19:56
ikoniathere is a root user, it is just locked19:56
ikonia(and rightly so)19:56
akikioria: you serious? of course there is a root user19:56
ikoniait has a valid uid and shell19:56
fluvianroot exists in passwd19:56
Guest60182I under stand the differents between tty and ttyS. The differences between ttyX and vcsX devices . But what is the difference between the vcs and vcsa device files?19:56
ioriaakik, configured by default ?19:56
ikoniait is a locked account by default19:56
Ben64fluvian: sudo su -c "echo hi | wall"19:57
OerHeksnot root user, but root-priv to the 1st account created during install19:57
akikioria: always has been a root user in linux19:57
EriC^^fluvian: interesting problem19:57
lernermy laptop takes 2 whole minutes to shut down since shutdown order is issued... during that period of time I only see the backdrop even though grub is configured to show the orders that are being issued on shutting down... why?19:57
ioriaakik, yes, but ubuntu ....19:57
EriC^^i wonder where it's getting the user from19:57
akikioria: yes always has been a root user in ubuntu19:58
fluvianBen64: well that had the effect of messing up my IRC client... but message still shows as being from me@host19:58
ikonialerner: shutdown order is missing ? what19:58
ioriaakik, ok19:58
Ben64fluvian: well maybe you didn't type it properly, works fine here19:58
OerHeksakik, get your facts right, there isn't, try login as root :-D19:58
ikoniaEriC^^: privilege seperation through sudo probably19:58
Ben64Broadcast Message from root@ben6419:58
akikOerHeks: you're wrong19:58
EriC^^Ben64: i can confirm it doesn't work here either19:58
EriC^^sudo su -c '....'19:58
EriC^^neither does env - before the command (using a clean environment)19:59
ikoniasudo controls an env with sudo_env parameter19:59
lernerikonia, do I have to add "? what" to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line on grub?19:59
akikas ikonia said, the root account's password is locked in ubuntu by default19:59
fluvianOerHeks: root may not have password, in which case ssh login (pubkey) or `su` is only way to use root19:59
ikonialerner: I don't know what you are saying, grub is used for booting,19:59
ikoniasu is not the way to use root on ubuntu20:00
fluvianikonia: first thing I tried was clearing all SUDO_* env variables... :P20:00
ikoniasudo is as the account is locked20:00
ikoniafluvian: well that sounds like a terrible idea20:00
lernerikonia, lerner: shutdown order is missing ? what < I dont understand that20:00
OerHeksakik so you answered it yourself, good.20:00
ikonialerner: I don't actually understand what you are saying,20:00
Ben64EriC^^: how about "sudo -i"; "bash"; "echo hi | wall"20:00
lernerikonia, you wrote: lerner: shutdown order is missing ? what20:01
ikoniaBen64: do you need bash after sudo20:01
lernerand I dont understand it20:01
ikonialerner: what is your question20:01
Ben64ikonia: works here20:01
akikOerHeks: what do you mean? that root account does not exist in ubuntu?20:01
ikoniaBen64: what about if you just "sudo -i" then wall hello20:01
Ben64oh that does work20:01
Ben64then why did people say it didn't20:01
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ikoniashould do as thats not privilege seperation20:01
ikoniaonly if you "sudo command"20:01
Ben64<fluvian> akik k1l_ EriC^^: `sudo -i`, `su -` and `su -l` all have the same problem20:02
OerHeksakik, actually i don't care to answer, you are trolling.20:02
akikOerHeks: i'm trying to tell you, root account has *always* existed in ubuntu20:02
lernerwhy dont I see the processes being terminated when I execute an order to shut down, even when grub has been configured to do so: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet" ?20:02
ikonialerner: grub is used for booting, you're not booting20:02
tgm4883all this root account talk seems semi-offtopic. Can we all agree that the root account exists and is disabled?20:02
EriC^^Ben64: ikonia sudo -i; wall something doesn't work here, neither does sudo su -c 'wall something'20:03
Ben64EriC^^: then you got something weird going on20:03
EriC^^trying sudo -i; bash; wall something20:03
lernerok ikonia , what do I need to edit to actually see how processes are being terminated when I shut down my laptop?20:03
ikoniaEriC^^: sudo -i20:04
ikoniathen type "wall hello"20:04
EriC^^Ben64: also doesn't work, ikonia it doesn't work20:04
ikonialerner: just hit escape20:04
lernerok20:04
Ben64EriC^^: you mess with sudo?20:04
lernerthx20:04
EriC^^Ben64: nope, standard install20:04
EriC^^16.0420:05
EriC^^which ubuntu version are you using?20:05
Ben64strange20:05
Ben6414.0420:05
lickalotthey guys, anyone here good with qemu/libvirt & virt manager?   I accidentally deleted my vm (windows 7) and am trying to rebuild it but it hangs at the windows logo.  I've tried a network path to the iso, pulled the files off the disk and created an .iso and tried pointing it to the disc.  Same results everytime.20:05
EriC^^maybe that's it20:05
Ben64i don't see why20:05
lickalottI'm a little stuck now.  Any help would be appreciated.20:05
fluvianhmm I am also on 14.04, could be it20:05
Ben64fluvian: except mine works20:05
fluvianagree that it seems unlikely20:05
fluvianoh it does OK. has anyone else repo'd this problem or is it unique to me?20:05
Ben64i think you're the first person to use wall in about a decade20:06
EriC^^!bug | fluvian20:07
ubottufluvian: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.20:07
fluvianBen64: you're probably right20:07
gonuihey there, how can i know what ubuntu version i have from terminal ???20:07
EriC^^gonui: lsb_release -d20:07
tgm4883gonui: lsb_release -a20:07
fluvianEriC^^: maybe this is more of an undocumented behaviour than a bug?20:07
EriC^^fluvian: hehe20:08
curlyearsheigh hough]20:08
gonuiDo i need to upgrade ?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/17154720/20:08
tgm4883!eol | gonui20:09
ubottugonui: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades20:09
ikoniagonui: that release is end of life if thats what you mean ?20:09
C_minusIs there a way to change the graphics memory alloted to a process? Nvidia-smi days my neural net uses only 120mb and is painfully slow.20:09
gonuiikonia ; so i need to upgrade to .. ?20:09
ikoniaC_minus: it will use what it can20:09
EriC^^gonui: 15.1020:09
ikoniagonui: a supported release, which is 16.04 for you20:09
tgm4883gonui: you'll need to upgrade to 15.10, then 16.0420:10
Bashing-omC_minus: My Phoenix bios .. has the option of how much ram to allocate to the graphics. maybe yours ?20:10
gonuitgm4883 ; how to do that ??20:10
tgm4883!eol | gonui20:10
tgm4883gonui: read the page I linked earlier20:10
kristian_on_linuhi all20:11
gonuitgm4883 : would it be safe to upgrade ? i fear messing my installation !!20:11
kristian_on_linuI put this in rc.local: bash /usr/bin/temp_throttle.sh 8020:11
kristian_on_linuis it correct?20:11
tgm4883gonui: well I always recommend backups20:11
gonuitgm4883 ; I have backed up my data , but I have some special configurations , i cant backup ??20:12
tgm4883kristian_on_linu: correct for what?20:12
tgm4883gonui: that's odd, you should be able to backup everything20:12
gonuitgm4883 ; what do you mean by backup , i just transfered my data to usbs sticks ??20:13
tgm4883gonui: yea, that would be backing things up20:13
gonuitgm4883 ; but i cant buckup my app configurations ..20:14
C_minusBashing-om thanks but I'm interested in the allocation for this particular python process.20:14
tgm4883gonui: why not? just backup your entire home directory20:14
gonuitgm4883 : its not like a VM ..20:14
lickalottis there a specific libvirt chan that I can ask in?20:14
notadeveloperhow do i install ping?20:14
EriC^^notadeveloper: sudo apt-get install iputils-ping20:15
tgm4883notadeveloper: iputils-ping20:15
tgm4883Bah, EriC^^ is apparently much faster20:15
gonuitgm4883 ; and there is something weird happaned , i suddenly lost all disk space it gone to 00 ??20:16
tgm4883gonui: we don't know what you did unless you tell us20:16
gonuitgm4883; i did nothing but not upgrading to the latest release , so i think i might got hacked or something ?20:17
gonuitgm4883: what should i do ?20:17
hippo23hi20:18
C_minusikonia I have 2gb mem on this gpu. X and compiz are using 170mb and 30mb. Then 120 for python neural net and that's all.20:18
tgm4883gonui: I honestly don't have the time to try and extract information from you. You said something weird happened and all your space went to 00. Did you do something to make that happen? What space (USB drive, Hard drive)?20:19
gonuitgm4883 ; should i upgrade from software & updates  ??20:19
ikoniaC_minus: and ?20:19
EriC^^gonui: if you have 0 space it's not going to work20:19
gonuitgm4883 ; Hard drive space went to 0020:19
EriC^^gonui: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit && df -h | pastebinit20:20
tgm4883gonui: then stop downloading ISOs20:20
gonuiEriC^^ ; I had to delete and transfer some files to get some space now i have 6 gb in hard drive20:20
EriC^^gonui: you might need to run sudo apt-get autoclean first20:20
Guest60182the difference between vcsa and vcs ?20:20
tgm4883Guest60182: wrong channel?20:21
Guest60182each have 7 device files20:21
EriC^^gonui: ok, well determine where the space went20:21
EriC^^gonui: try du -sh /* | sort -h20:21
tgm4883We should really have the netcat command for pastebinning as a factoid20:21
EriC^^gonui: maybe you have a long running log problem or something20:21
gonuiEriC^^ ; it didnt go to my home directory though ..20:21
gonuithe space20:22
EriC^^gonui: try du -sh.....20:22
kristian_on_linutgm4883, yeah ... I want to run this script: http://seperohacker.blogspot.dk/2012/10/linux-keep-your-cpu-cool-with-frequency.html20:22
EriC^^gonui: try du -sh /var20:23
alberto_80Hello everyone20:23
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alberto_80Is there any Linux program that show information about the type of RAM modules a machine has? I mean, whether it's DDR2 or DDR3...etc.20:24
alberto_80shows, sorry20:24
ikonialshw20:24
ikoniadmidecode20:24
bray9082_Bashing-om: even lubuntu isn't even working it booted to grub then try without installing  boots to a flashing line in the corner20:24
alberto_80ikonia Thank you20:25
Bashing-om!md5sum20:25
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM20:25
OerHekssudo lshw -short -C memory20:25
gonuiEriC^^ ; du -sh /var" gave    " 53G/var20:25
Bashing-ombray9082_: ^^ did you verify the dowmloaded .iso file ?20:25
bray9082_Bashing-om: do you think it was the ISO?20:25
EriC^^gonui: that'd be the problem20:26
EriC^^gonui: inspect further, du -sh /var/* | sort -h20:26
bray9082_I don't really know how to verify it20:26
EriC^^is log the culprit?20:26
erebel55wtf is this? http://i.imgur.com/vqmAE61.png20:26
bray9082_You mean check CD for defects?20:26
ikoniaerebel55: tone down the language please,20:26
bray9082_Bashing-om:20:27
ikoniaerebel55: it means the service file/definition is not found20:27
gonuiEriC^^ ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/17155174/20:27
ikoniaI assume you're trying to write an upstart job on systemd20:27
Bashing-ombray9082_: Cannot rule the .iso file out unless it has been verified ,,, and then the burn to CD is to be verified .20:27
erebel55lol I didn't know acronyms were bad language now20:27
bray9082_Bashing-om: Actually it's a USB20:27
erebel55ikonia, yeah I'm writing a init startup script20:27
ikoniaerebel55: try writing a systemd unit file, rather than an upstart script20:27
gonuiEriC^^ ; so it all went to /var/log20:27
lordcirtherebel55, well, write a .service file instead20:27
EriC^^gonui: ok, try ls -lh /var/log20:28
Bashing-ombray9082_: Either CD or USB .. the download and the copy needs to be verified .20:28
EriC^^gonui: try to upload one of the huge files to see what's making it big20:28
erebel55what's wrong with init.d scripts?20:29
ikoniaerebel55: ubuntu uses upstart now20:29
ikoniainit.d scripts are obsolete20:29
tgm4883ikonia: you mean systemd20:29
ikonia(legacy)20:29
ikoniaoops20:29
gonuiEriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17155227/20:29
ikoniasystemd20:29
erebel55sigh20:29
ikoniathank you20:29
tgm4883:)20:29
tgm4883erebel55: there's not much that uses sysvinit scripts anymore20:29
EriC^^gonui: ok, type "dmesg"20:30
EriC^^you should see something that's repeating, paste it20:30
gonuiEriC^^; it would crash if i open it with leafpad , how to open it from shell ?20:30
bray9082_Bashing-om: How would I go about verifying it?20:30
David_exit20:30
erebel55okay, I'm looking up service file then20:30
Bashing-om!md5sum | bray9082_  Tutorial::20:31
ubottubray9082_  Tutorial::: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM20:31
gonuiEriC^^ ; should i start the command with pastebinit to get a url ?? i forgot ..20:32
EriC^^gonui: type dmesg | pastebinit20:32
EriC^^or dmesg | tail -40 | pastebinit20:33
EriC^^do the second one20:33
netametawhat commend can i use to fetch all output of a script and pip it to a file ?20:33
netametain bash20:33
Ben64> file20:33
gonuiEriC^^ ; the second one http://paste.ubuntu.com/17155371/20:33
EriC^^netameta: ./script.sh > /file 2>&120:34
lordcirthnetameta, ./script > file20:34
netametai see20:34
cool3i m blind20:34
lordcirthEric's will also catch error messages, if that's what you want20:34
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netametaEriC^^, whats the &1 for ?20:34
gonuiEriC^^; whats that for ?20:34
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Picinetameta: redirects stderr to the same location of stdout20:35
EriC^^netameta: 2>&1 redirects stderr (standard error) to standard out (your file)20:35
gonuiEriC^^ ; the first output http://paste.ubuntu.com/17155363/20:35
netametawill > filename alone wont suffice ?20:36
lordcirthnetameta, > file will capture standard output20:36
EriC^^gonui: hmm, looks ok, look into /var/log/kern.log20:36
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Picinetameta: only if you don't care what may be sent to stderr.20:36
lordcirthnetameta, but error messages would still be printed to screen20:36
netametaI am fine with them being printed yea20:36
EriC^^netameta: they won't go to the file if you care about that20:37
lordcirthnetameta, for example, run 'find / > list' - the names of files will be saved, permission denied errors will be printed20:37
netametalordcirth, I see20:38
gonuiEriC^^; it s big 21 gb20:38
netametaso how will i make everything go to the file ?20:38
netameta2>&1 ?20:38
EriC^^netameta: yeah20:38
gonuiEriC^^; should i delete those log files ??20:38
EriC^^if you want both, printed on the screen + goes to file there's "tee"20:38
EriC^^./script.sh | tee file20:39
EriC^^gonui: not until you see what's causing it in the first place20:39
EriC^^gonui: if you want do sudo >/var/log/kern.log20:39
EriC^^gonui: the errors will be in syslog too20:40
gonuiEriC^^; what does it do ?20:40
EriC^^gonui: makes it an empty file20:40
lordcirthgonui, that will empty the log.  I wouldn't do that20:40
EriC^^lordcirth: it's like 20gb20:40
halakar_hey guys20:40
gonuilordcirth ;  ?20:41
halakar_anyone here know much about how to access a dat72 tape drive under ubuntu?  kind of an emergency.20:41
lordcirthEriC^^, there's plenty of time to delete it, after he's fixed the problem.20:41
halakar_lsusb sees it, but I don't know how the hell to mount the damn thing20:41
halakar_I'm on ubuntu 14.04LTS20:41
EriC^^lordcirth: well, the same stuff will be in /var/log/syslog20:41
halakar_any assistance would be appreciated, thx20:42
gonuilordcirth ; am planning on doing an upgrade from 15.04 to 16,04 i want it to go  smooth without problems ..20:42
cool3who wants problems anyway ?20:42
Jordan_Uhalakar_: You don't mount tape drives since they're not random access (not even close).20:42
lordcirthhalakar_, what does 'lsblk' show?20:42
lordcirthnvrm^20:43
halakar_ks20:43
halakar_well here's the deal20:43
gonuiEriC^^ ; should i upgrade first from Software & updates ?20:43
halakar_these people need to access a backup on a tape drive that was made with an old as crap version of unix/linux20:43
EriC^^gonui: no, check kern.log and see what it says20:43
netametais there a way to print environment variable into a file ?20:43
halakar_lordcirth: Hang on and I'll tell you20:43
netametabecause the above didnt seem to work20:43
lordcirthhalakar_, don't bother, if it's not a block device20:43
Jordan_Uhalakar_: I've never used a tape drive myself, but I would expect that you would use tar (Tape ARchive) to get the data on and off it.20:44
halakar_yeah, i was using fdisk -l and it didn't show anything20:44
EriC^^netameta: maybe join #bash ?20:44
halakar_Jordan_U: right - but I need to be able to view some of the data on the tape20:44
halakar_so that i can scrape it off or extract it somehow20:44
SaltySolomonHi, I got an issue with networking, the leds are lit, but the interface says it is down and I cannot get it back up :/20:44
Cmaj6I'm following along a tutorial about learning openGL using cpp. I can program in java, but never touched cpp. The tutorial provides some header files to be included. However, what is best practice regarding storing those header files? In other words: can i puit these header files in /usr/include/ or shoudl i put them in the directory of the cpp project?20:44
Jordan_Uhalakar_: Dump all of the data off the drive and into a file (which I presume will end up being a .tar file) then work from there.20:45
halakar_right, but i need to be able to READ the thing.  how to read the data that is on the tape?20:45
netametaEriC^^, thanks will do20:45
halakar_It's an HP DAT72 external USB drive20:45
halakar_it shows up under lsusb20:45
Jordan_Uhalakar_: Also, if it is as important as you're implying then don't actually *do* anything until you have done a good deal of research to be sure you don't accidentally erase the data you're trying to read.20:45
lordcirthhalakar_, do you have a /dev/st0 ?20:46
halakar_hang on20:46
OerHekshalakar_, i assume that tape is listed under /dev/nst0 >> http://www.cs.inf.ethz.ch/stricker/lab/linux_tape.html20:46
halakar_I have a /dev/tape20:46
halakar_under /dev/tape there are two subdirs, one says 'by-id'20:46
halakar_one says 'by-dev'20:46
halakar_the 'by-id' contains a few items that do have in the name 'hb-usb' which is the make and interface of this USB tape drive20:47
Jordan_Uhalakar_: ls -l /dev/tape/*/20:47
Jordan_Uhalakar_: I'll bet they're all symlinks to the one actual device.20:48
halakar_dmesg shows the device being detected and what not when i plug it in20:48
fluvianI want sudo to always prompt me for a password, but I don't want to allow password logins on my account... is this possible?20:48
halakar_[ 1454.165989] st 8:0:0:0: Attached scsi tape st0 [ 1454.166002] st 8:0:0:0: st0: try direct i/o: yes (alignment 512 B) [ 1454.166200] st 8:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 120:48
lordcirthfluvian, as in, you want auto-login locally?20:49
fluvianlordcirth: not quite. I want ssh pubkey login to be the only way to login to my account20:49
lordcirthfluvian, oh, ok.20:49
lordcirthfluvian, so you set up & test your key login, then disable password auth in /etc/ssh/sshd_config20:50
fluvianbut I also want to be prompted for a password when I sudo. locking my account works for preventing login, but then I have to set nopasswd sudo otherwise it's unusable20:50
fluvianlordcirth: that works, except another auth'd user can then password login to my account locally20:50
lordcirthfluvian, you mean with su?20:50
halakar_Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/Di3RgqnQ20:51
erebel55okay, so I wrote a systemd script and read up on all of that20:51
erebel55but now when I start I am getting20:51
erebel55http://i.imgur.com/92PIZD6.png20:51
erebel55refusing to run with the root privileges20:51
fluvianlordcirth: with su or login20:51
lordcirtherebel55, well, you shouldn't run game servers as root, so that makes sense.20:51
lordcirtherebel55, you can make a service account for the game server, and run as that.20:52
cool3how long does it take to know linux ? reading ebooks and practical knowledge ?20:52
lordcirthfluvian, have you considered not allowing untrusted users on your machine?20:53
Jordan_Uhalakar_: Please use http://paste.debian.net and provide the raw plain text link.20:53
lordcirthcool3, "know linux" cannot be defined.20:53
halakar_http://paste.debian.net/732097/20:53
lordcirthcool3, know linux well enough to do what?20:53
cool3lordcirth, know linux to do server install and maintenance20:54
cool3lordcirth, to be a network administrator20:54
lordcirthcool3, hard to say.  Could be as low as 1 year, if you learn fast.20:55
erebel55lordcirth, when I don't run as sudo it gives me this http://i.imgur.com/FRlk5XO.png20:55
lordcirthBut I'd think more like 2-320:55
halakar_I have to go, I'll be back later guys.  I'm sure there's a way to access this tape20:55
halakar_Jordan_U: maybe I'll catch you later man.20:55
lordcirtherebel55, you change the user the service runs as in the .service file, not by who starts it20:56
lordcirtherebel55, and it shouldn't run as you, it should run as it's own user20:56
cool3lordcirth, ok i have time. so i will focus on this :) thanks20:56
Tin_mancool3 if you have a spare old pc, just setup a server at home, and learn at your own pace20:56
gonuiEric**: when i tried opening the kern.log ubuntu crashed !!20:56
notadeveloperhow do i install add-apt-repository20:56
fluvianlordcirth: good general advice. but if an unprivileged user is compromised, they could maybe access my account and hence root. I guess using a decent password will be good enough.20:57
OerHeksnotadeveloper, on what ubuntu version? it shold be standard available AFAIK20:57
cool3Tin_man, yes i have a spare old celeron system. are you guys all pro and work in that field ? they said i will have to update my knowledge every 6 months20:57
notadeveloperon ubuntu container20:57
erebel55lordcirth, oh okay yeah my service file is really simple right now http://pastebin.com/5WvJBNbQ20:57
lordcirthfluvian, but what openings allow such an unprivileged user into your system?  Actual users or services?20:57
lordcirthcool3, you will have to update certain parts of knowledge every 6 mo.  Not all of it will be obsolete that fast.20:58
Tin_mani'm not a pro, but i set up my own home server for file sharing, and printer sharing, lot of how to's out there20:59
cool3lordcirth, oh cool20:59
fluvianreal users, whom I know personally, but I don't necessarily trust their opsec20:59
OerHeksnotadeveloper, try: man add-apt-repository # to see if it is there, else install software-properties-commo20:59
lordcirthfluvian, are you sure they need to be on your OS?  Do they just need a linux system?  ie, could you give them a container?20:59
fluvianlordcirth: i mean, i don't trust them to observe good security practices20:59
cool3Tin_man, yes i will begin to do it at home :)21:00
cool3ty21:00
fluvianlordcirth: that's also possible21:00
lordcirthfluvian, LXD containers are simple, fast, and more secure than having an untrusted user on the system, no matter how much you try to lock them down.21:00
Tin_mani'm still learning, had some trouble with CUPS, but the other parts are fairly simple to grasp.21:00
lordcirthJust make sure you make unprivileged containers21:01
lordcirthTin_man, everyone has trouble with CUPS21:01
gonuimost of the hard disk space is in the /var directory , i lost space from home directory ..21:01
Tin_manthat makes me feel better lordcirth ..21:01
lordcirthPrinters are a huge pain in general21:02
erebel55lordcirth, by service account do you mean an account that is locked with usermod -L ?21:02
Tin_mantake care all, be back later..21:02
fluvianlordcirth: OK, I'll consider that.21:02
cool3lordcirth, printers with programmed obscolecence is difficult21:02
gonuilordcirth; am not sure what to do ..21:02
lordcirthgonui, well, did you find out what is spamming your logs?  I wasn't watching21:03
gonuilordcirth; how to fix it ? do a clean install ?21:04
lordcirthgonui, what's the problem?21:04
gonuilordcirth: most of the hard disk space is in the /var directory , i lost space from home directory21:04
lordcirthgonui, yeah, because your logs are huge.  That's not the problem, that's a symptom.  What made your logs so huge?21:05
erebel55lordcirth, I setup a user and added that to the .service file. But I'm still getting this org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 was not provided error21:06
lordcirtherebel55, are you running systemctl as root?21:07
gonuilordcirth : me ? lol21:07
erebel55lordcirth, no21:07
lordcirthgonui, are your logs still growing fast?  If not, feel free to truncate them and carry on.  If they are, that's a problem.21:07
lordcirtherebel55, well, you need to.21:07
erebel55okay, thank you21:07
lordcirthsystemctl generally runs as root, but it starts services as various users21:08
gonuilordcirth ; how can i test if they are growing fast?21:08
lordcirthgonui, tail -f will follow the end of the file21:08
gonuilordcirth ; how to use tail -f  to follow kern.log ?21:09
lordcirthgonui, 'tail -f /var/log/kern.log'21:10
Bashing-omgonui: ^^ in a new terminal interface .21:11
gonuiBashing-om ; no need to use sudo , right ?21:11
lordcirthgonui, you are just reading, no need to sudo21:12
Bashing-omgonui: Correct .. sudo only as needed .. no need here .21:12
gonuilordcirth ; run the command and just leave the terminal and do something else ?21:12
tojokois there any distribution thats able to boot and run from a sd-card via pci right out of the box?21:13
lordcirthgonui, well, a minute or 2 should do.  If it keeps printing a LOT of new stuff, then something is wrong21:13
lordcirthIf not, then whatever problem filled your log is probably gone, and you can delete them21:13
gonuilordcirth ; just browsing or i should do other stuff ??21:13
erebel55lordcirth, thank you that worked. Now I'm getting other ambigious errors21:13
erebel55http://i.imgur.com/HPNanCy.png21:13
lordcirthgonui, probably doesn't matter.21:14
gonuilordcirth ; i see21:14
Noruxhi guys, I have a very dumb question. How can I turn a video by 90 degrees?21:14
lordcirtherebel55, move the game server files to a location that the service user owns21:15
lordcirtherebel55, the point of the service user is that it can't read your home directory21:15
erebel55ahh okay, I will try that21:16
craigbass76Is ther ea real lightweight distro anyone can think of? slow internet, and I need to run fsck on a box21:16
nairwolflubuntu ?21:17
craigbass76nairwolf, lighter21:17
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MonkeyDustcraigbass76  ask in #linux, or ##linux21:20
Yuri4_Can someone help me to understand, why my cronotab -e @reboot script doesn't run?21:22
craigbass76MonkeyDust, Going to try puppy -- ;looks lightweight21:22
Yuri4_sleep 30; mount -t cifs //secret.file.core.windows.net/cgi-bin /var/www/course/cgi-bin -o uid=33,gid=1000,vers=3.0,username=secret,password=PASSWORD,dir_mode=0755,file_mode=064421:23
erebel55lordcirth, still giving me the same thing21:24
erebel55http://i.imgur.com/PgPQkWx.png21:24
erebel55http://i.imgur.com/isMitWv.png21:28
soLucienhello guys ! I want to use apt-proxy to download packages21:28
soLucienand cache them21:28
soLucienmy question is:21:28
soLucienhow to overwrite the sources list21:28
soLucienso that it points to the apt-proxy ?21:28
MonkeyDust!find apt-proxy21:29
ubottuFound: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 13 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=apt-proxy&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all21:29
erebel55http://i.imgur.com/w1IPG0b.png21:29
soLucienhttp://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/21:30
erebel55lordcirth, that is the folder permissions, systemd file, and error21:30
soLucienso i run this on a machine21:30
cihhanhi all! i have one question: is there a way to create a new partition by shrinking LVM root partition online?21:31
soLucienthen i want the vm machine to use the apt-proxy to retrieve the packages21:31
MonkeyDustsoLucien  is that a server?21:31
soLucienso i want to overwrite sources.list21:31
soLucienyes21:31
MonkeyDustsoLucien  try in #ubuntu-server21:31
MonkeyDustsoLucien  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy21:31
soLucienhttp://pasteboard.co/1yYdZxjv.png21:33
Huliohi guys, i remember there is an alias file  something like  'pico .basrc'  where is that?21:34
Hulioi wnat to make an alias21:34
Hulioplease show me thankls.21:34
MonkeyDustHulio  try   nano  ~/.bashrc21:35
Huliooh21:35
Hulioi can't use pico ?21:35
Nobgulyes21:35
Nobgulpico and nano are the same21:35
Huliooh21:35
erebel55man why is this so hard. I just want to run a service >_<21:35
Huliodo I put alias to the last line in file?21:36
Hulioor any where?21:36
NobgulHulio: the file is hidden you should be able to see the other hideen files with ls -al21:36
Hulioi know, but i can add text to the last line of file?21:36
Hulioor begining of the file?21:36
Nobgulbefore the fi21:37
Huliook21:37
Nobgulthe fi exits it21:37
Nobgulthere should be other alias there already21:37
daxthe fi doesn't exit it.21:38
Huliook how to refersh what i put in?21:38
Hulioi save the file21:38
daxthe `fi` is the close of the `if` function a few lines earlier21:38
Hulioi dont want to reboot, how to refresh the file21:38
daxsource ~/.bashrc21:38
Huliooh21:38
Huliothanks21:38
MonkeyDustHulio  i put my aliases on top of the file, e.g. 'agi=sudo apt-get installstall'21:39
goddardhow can i get access to usb ports with wireshark in 16.04?21:39
NobgulI should have explained the "exit" better.21:39
goddardit keeps sayaing i dont have permission21:39
Huliook, can someone give me example:     i want alias       cls =  clear21:39
MonkeyDusttypo*21:39
Huliogive emample please21:39
goddardive added the wireshark group like suggested21:39
Nobgulalias rm='rm -i'21:39
goddardeven rebooted21:39
Huliolet say i want clear   to be cls21:39
Huliocan it be done?21:39
LtLubottu: alias cls='clear'21:40
Huliook thanks21:40
LtLHulio: alias cls='clear'21:40
geniiHulio: Nobgul gave an example, as you requested21:40
goddardthe wireshark wiki says nothing21:40
Hulioit working21:40
Huliobeautifully21:40
Huliothanks LtL21:40
HulioLtL, you're smart21:41
LtLnp Hulio21:41
Nobgulgoddard: There is a wireshark channel on here, Not saying someone here can't help but i know i sure cant lol21:41
goddardNobgul: thanks i am in that channel as well21:41
* Hulio i salute lt21:41
goddardi remember a fix to this in the past21:41
Hulioi salute LtL21:41
goddardbut the same doesn't seem to be working21:41
NobgulIf your system can see the ports then it is 100% a wireshark issue.21:41
lordcirtherebel55, was afk for supper.  Those permissions look fine to me.21:41
cihhanhi all! i have one question: is there a way to create a new partition by shrinking LVM root partition online?21:42
HulioLtL, is that alias only for me?21:42
Hulioor for other uses as well?21:42
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NobgulYou21:43
Huliooh21:43
lordcirtherebel55, su to omniwar user, and try running the command directly.  It may provide more details.21:43
Huliocan't be assign globally?21:43
Nobguleach user has a bachrc file21:43
NobgulHulio: it can and i forget how21:43
Nobgullol21:43
Hulioi see21:43
EriC^Hulio, /etc/bash.bashrc21:43
Huliook let me try that21:43
Nobgulthere u go i just couldnt remember the path lol21:43
Hulioand delete from my bash21:43
lordcirthcihhan, you can, if the filesystem supports it.  But please back up first.21:44
zuhaitzHi21:44
Nobgulhi zuhaitz21:44
goddardOh i think usbmon isn't install in the 16.04 kernel21:44
goddardit says it is a module21:44
goddardcan i get it in a pacakge?21:45
goddarddoing a search for usbmon says nothing21:45
Huliopermision deny21:45
Huliowhat the heck21:45
Huliosudo ?21:45
zuhaitzI installed Ubuntu 16.04 in a laptop with nvidia and intel graphics but I can only manage to have intel (official) and nvidia (nouveau), I want to install nvidia official ones but it doesnt work, can anybody help please?21:45
Nobgulyes21:45
NobgulYou need to be root21:45
Nobgulto touch stuff in /etc21:45
lordcirthgoddard, grep CONFIG_USB_MON /boot/config-`uname -r`21:46
Nobguleither sudo or su one or the other depending on how your setup21:46
Hulioworking now21:46
lordcirthgoddard, will tell you whether it's a module or not, which on mine it is21:46
Huliocool eric^21:46
HulioEric^ you're way smartter21:46
LtLHulio: better to just add aliases in your /home/user/.bashrc file21:46
Huliothanks21:46
Bashing-omzuhaitz: The utility " Additional Drivers" offers what for graphic's drivers ?21:46
Huliodo i need to pay you?21:47
zuhaitzDual graphics nvidia+intel ( 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM108M [GeForce 840M]  + VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller) But I cant use official nvidia drivers, only nouveau works.21:47
Huliowhat is the charge?21:47
LtLHulio: there should be more aliases in that file, just un-comment them21:47
Huliook21:47
EriC^Hulio: 1 million dollars21:47
goddardzuhaitz: i am using a 970m and it works perfectly21:47
zuhaitzgoddard: nice for you, not my case21:47
FManTropyxI avoid denied permissions by always being root, but some people don't recommend it :)21:47
Huliook last one, is there command to shut down system?21:48
goddardzuhaitz: i had a 840m working as well21:48
Huliovia terminal21:48
goddardzuhaitz: ^21:48
zuhaitzgoddard: with intel?21:48
goddardzuhaitz: you should try the legeacy21:48
Hulioi know there is 'sudo reboot'21:48
lordcirthHulio, 'poweroff'21:48
EriC^Hulio: poweroff21:48
deviationHi, I've got a weird problem with a linux machine I'm using for work. When I go to install a package via apt I get 'E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.', but when I run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a', it just hangs on one particular package21:48
zuhaitzgoddard: intel + nvidia?21:48
goddardzuhaitz: you probably need to install bumblebee21:48
zuhaitzi did21:48
geniiAlso, shutdown -h now21:48
zuhaitzand primus21:48
Nobgulshutdown -r now21:48
goddardzuhaitz: did you try prime switch instead then?21:48
Huliowow21:48
Hulioit is working21:48
Nobgulwill work as well21:48
Hulionice man21:48
zuhaitzYes21:48
Hulioyou guys are amazing21:49
zuhaitzbut If I do lsmod there is no nvidia21:49
lordcirthdeviation, what package?21:49
deviationactually my whole computer becomes unresponsive when I run dpkg --configure -a..21:49
Huliothi this is fascinating21:49
deviationossec-hids-agent21:49
geniiNobgul: Yep I prefer shutdown since just -h or -r , instead of differently named other commands21:49
zuhaitz~$ optirun glxgears [  784.334693] [ERROR]You've no permission to communicate with the Bumblebee daemon. Try adding yourself to the 'bumblebee' group [  784.334711] [ERROR]Could not connect to bumblebee daemon - is it running?21:49
lordcirthHulio, yeah, learning the command line is pretty fun :)21:49
deviationlooks like some security software my work has installed21:49
cihhanlordcirth, I have LVM but the problem is that I cant unmount it to shrink.21:49
lordcirthcihhan, are you using ext4 filesystem?21:50
zuhaitzI am part of the group21:50
Huliolordcirth, it's like i command the computer21:50
Hulioi'm in charge of my pc21:50
Nobgulgenii: As far as i know -r will give no warning and just shutdown kinda an ememrgency shutdown.21:50
zuhaitzand it is running21:50
lordcirthHulio, indeed you do :)  That's why I switched to Linux.21:50
cihhanlordcirth, yes21:50
Jordan_UNobgul: -r is short for reboot.21:50
lordcirthcihhan, backup anything important first, just in case21:50
Nobgulreally -_-21:51
goddardzuhaitz: usermod -aG bumblebee zuhaitz21:51
goddardor what ever your username is on your linux box21:51
NobgulJordan_U: thanks for the clarifcation.21:51
lordcirthcihhan, Can you boot off a livecd?21:51
lordcirthor USB21:51
Jordan_UNobgul: You're welcome.21:51
deviationis there a way to see what's in the queue to be configured (ie, what is dpkg --configure -a about to configure?) and stop it from trying to configure those?21:51
zuhaitzgoddard: what nvidia- did you install?21:51
goddardzuhaitz: after you add yourself to that group you will have to logout and then in21:51
zuhaitzcurrent? what number?21:52
goddardzuhaitz: did you add yourself to the group?21:52
zuhaitzI am part of the group21:52
zuhaitzyes I am21:52
cihhanlordcirth, unfortunately it is a VM on the cloud so I dont have such a luxury :(21:52
lordcirthcihhan, ah I see21:52
goddardzuhaitz: i installed version 342 i think21:52
goddardzuhaitz: it was awhile ago and i dont have that system any moore21:52
erebel55lordcirth, yeah I forgot the -R when I did the chown on the dir. so my user wasn't owner of the executable21:52
zuhaitzgoddard: ...21:52
zuhaitzI am getting mad21:52
zuhaitzintel21:53
zuhaitzi915 + nouveau21:53
gonuilordcirth ; are you there ?21:53
zuhaitzis what I get working21:53
zuhaitz:(21:53
lordcirtherebel55, ah, that would do it.  Just be careful with chown or chmod -R, we had a guy earlier break his whole system with them.21:53
cool3it s so cool that you dont have virus with linux !!21:53
zuhaitzso then no libcuda no 100% hardware21:53
lordcirthgonui, hi21:53
erebel55lordcirth, oh wow, yay it's working now :D seems like systemd should have been able to give me a decent error message for something simple like that tho :/21:54
lordcirthcool3, Linux is pretty secure, but you still need to be careful.  Do updates when they come out, and don't run random programs from the internet, especially as root :)21:54
Nobgulcool3: not true at all. Well 1/2 true you have to worry about rootkits etc21:54
lordcirtherebel55, well, it's more a matter of the program not giving systemd proper error messages, I think.21:54
cihhanlordcirth, that s why im wondering if there is a way to do it21:54
gonuilordcirth ; see what happened to " tail -f /var/log/kern.log " after nearly an hour http://paste.ubuntu.com/17157363/21:54
NobgulAlways a good idea to create a user and run as that and sudo or su when you need to.21:54
lordcirthgonui, ok, so you're fine.  Should be ok to delete the massive logs.21:55
gonuilordcirth: only 4 lines where added21:55
cool3lordcirth, Nobgul yes you have to find trusted sources. rootkits and worms but well it s better than having a windows full of adwares and spywares21:55
cool3and it run so much faster21:55
lordcirthcool3, it certainly is.  I just like to warn people not to get careless :)21:55
gonuilordcirth ; should i delete the whole file kern.log , just emty it ?21:56
erebel55lordcirth, thanks for all of your help!21:56
cool3lordcirth, i will follow your wise advice :)21:56
gonuilordcirth ; what is the command to delete the logs ?21:57
lordcirthgonui, try running 'sudo /etc/cron.daily/logrotate'21:57
lordcirthgonui, it should start a new log file, allowing you to delete the old ones safely21:57
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olivierHello21:58
gonuilordcirth ; by the way i have in the /var directory two kern.log and kern.log1 , the first is more massive21:58
FManTropyxwhen does cron.daily execute?21:58
lordcirthFManTropyx, well, it should run daily, of course, if enabled.  Not sure what time.21:59
olivierHow do i join another IRC?21:59
lordcirtholivier, another channel, or server?21:59
NobgulAnother channel?21:59
olivierserver i think21:59
Nobgulolivier: /server irc.servername.com21:59
lordcirthgonui, yeah, and logrotate should move 1 to 2, and your current to 1, and start a new kern.log.21:59
NobgulReplace irc.servername.com with the right server address or ip22:00
Nobgulguess he got it22:00
lordcirthgonui, did it work?22:00
gonuilordcirth ; ok what is the command to delete the kern.log from terminal first ?22:00
Nobgulrm -rf file22:01
lordcirthNobgul, no22:01
Nobgul?22:01
gonuilordcirt; " error: error creating output file /var/log/syslog.1.gz: File exists22:01
lordcirthyou do not need either -r or -f22:01
lordcirthNobgul, don't get in the habit of throwing those on rm22:01
NobgulOld habit always use -rf22:01
LtLgonui: rm /var/log/kern.log22:01
NobgulI know recursive and force22:01
lordcirthkern1.log, not kern.log22:02
Nobguljust old habbits22:02
lordcirthkern.log should be tiny now because of rotate22:02
lordcirthNobgul, yeah, otherwise known as "danger" and "more danger".  Try to break the habit :)22:02
Nobgullordcirth:not sure how many years now but more then 20 i think been using it22:03
gonuilordcirth ; do i need to reboot , to notice difference ?22:04
lordcirthgonui, no22:04
lordcirthgonui, just delete all the numbered kern#.log and syslog#.log, and you should have lots of space22:05
xafarderrdoes anybody use gnome flashback?22:06
lordcirthIf you delete kern.log itself, that won't free any space until you restart the services, ie by rebooting22:06
xafarderrcan't show trash can nor home file on desktop in gnome flashback22:06
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hurasafehello guys. Can Someone help me installing python oldnumeric?22:13
HadesWatch3rUbuntu 14.04.4 LTS 4.2 kernel from Wily..  when I use terminal and go apt update ... says nothing ... but software updater says there is stuff and then updates..  ?22:15
moonequitoTrying to get an Ubuntu box with Vagrant and I'm getting a 404 error when it tries to get the box from http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/xenial-server-cloudimg-amd64-vagrant.box22:16
Bashing-omHadesWatch3r: 2 terminal commands ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' .22:17
HadesWatch3rtks...22:17
HadesWatch3rso have to run them both.. ?22:17
HadesWatch3ralways.22:17
Bashing-omHadesWatch3r: Yeah ,, if it your goal to update the installed softwares .22:18
HadesWatch3rok, thank you.22:18
Bashing-omHadesWatch3r: update to sync the data bases ,, and upgrade to do the package upgrades .22:19
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gonuiI have ubuntu 15.04 what is the right way to upgrade ??22:23
k1l_gonui: run the update-manager if that is a desktop22:24
tgm4883!eol | gonui22:24
ubottugonui: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades22:24
tgm4883k1l_: those repos should be gone by now22:24
k1l_that still should find the 15.10 repos and upgrade, iirc22:24
gonuik1l_; you mean from the Software updater GUI ??22:24
tgm4883k1l_: hmm, you might be right22:25
k1l_gonui: press alt+F2, "update-manager"22:25
OerHeksmoonequito, known issue, check out in #vagrant22:25
moonequitooh, thanks! *heads over to #vagrant*22:26
xmlnewbiim useing full disk encyption and im trying to find a way to unecrypt it22:26
xmlnewbiIm only able to open it via the live book disk. and all my installs cant access it. Im woried im going to loose the data if I keep messing around with it22:27
gonuik1l_; am running an update in 15.04 now when it finish i will press upgrade ..22:27
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xmlnewbiI keep reading its impossible to remove full disk encryption is that true?22:28
OerHeksxmlnewbi, the fastest way is to create a new user without encryption and transfer files, i don't know any way to decrypt and keep the files22:29
daxOerHeks: full disk encryption, not home-directory encryption22:29
daxbut yes, you want to move the stuff you want to keep somewhere else and then reinstall22:29
OerHeksxmlnewbi, dax oh, my bad22:29
xmlnewbiits 400gigs and my second drive is only 120gig arg22:29
xmlnewbiit is full disk encryption, ugh22:30
xmlnewbiis repairing bootloaders on an encrypted system drive really that risky. the boot repair tool keeps telling me to backup22:30
chilukwhat would be the best way to prevent my machine from suspending on critically low battery?22:36
user2635> If I've done make install and make for a particular package, how do I backtrack the changes? (i'm a newbie who just followed a guide, now want to clean things up)22:36
chilukbasically I've got a broken battery which reports 0% power, but in fact has plenty.22:36
TBotNikAll, Trying to fix problem I posted at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5558619#post555861922:36
lordcirth_chiluk, search "power" in dash, that should find the settings I think22:40
DGMurdockIIIis there any api or source code for the http://paste.ubuntu.com/?22:41
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user2635Does mv move hidden files too if I do /directory/*? If not, how do I do it?22:42
lordcirth_user2635, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/89749/cp-hidden-files-with-glob-patterns#8975322:43
Player_How do I add another user with sudo access to an Ubuntu server?  Specifically, what groups does a user need to have the same permissions as the default (non-root) account?22:43
ComnenusProbably a stupid question.  I have to boot the installer in EFI mode for it to create a 4TB partition, right?22:43
lordcirth_user2635, you could use the output of `ls -A` IF there are no special characters or spaces in filenames22:44
lordcirth_Player_, adding them to group 'sudo' should do22:44
Player_lordcirth_, so none of the other groups are necessary?22:44
user2635lordcirth_, thanks22:45
lordcirth_Player_, the others may be useful.  However if they have sudo they could grant themselves the others if needed.22:45
user2635Is there a way to save the text from a terminal session? So I have a log of what I did?22:54
lordcirth_user2635, bash already does that.  Run 'history'22:54
user2635Other than using the mouse to select everything from top to bottom and copy+paste22:54
sadleeuser 2635 it's in history22:54
lordcirth_However, it only saves commands, not results22:54
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user2635i'm also talking about results22:54
lordcirthThere is a program to record that too, one sec22:54
user2635basically at this stage, i have to manually copy22:55
user2635but for next time, I have to remember the program22:55
lordcirthuser2635, here: http://www.linuxnix.com/record-terminalshell-session-linux/22:55
chiluklordcirth: wasn't going to be that simple.. as what to do on critical power is greyed out in the power settings tool22:55
naccuser2635: typescript (`script` command)22:55
chiluklordcirth:    i ended up doing this.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/378440/how-to-avoid-shutdown-on-critical-battery22:55
lordcirthchiluk, glad you found a solution22:56
lordcirthnacc, yeah, that's what I just linked him22:56
user2635in that case, is there a shortcut for me to Select All on the current terminal session22:56
user2635that way i don't have to use my mouse to drag and select the whole text22:57
user2635shortcut key*22:57
lordcirthI'm not aware of one22:58
user2635its alright22:58
user2635I just did shift + home, then used my mouse to select everything22:59
sadleeThere are some almost there solutions here user2635 http://superuser.com/questions/357248/how-to-copy-the-terminal-output23:02
sadleeI used to listen to the badapples podcast and thought I remembered Klaatu talking about an alternative terminal that could do it, but I never followed up. I'm not really abash buff23:03
user2635sadlee, thanks23:04
user2635I'll just copy paste for now, the other solutions don't seem newbie friendly23:04
user2635Is there an advantage to using just the terminal for file management?23:05
user2635I don't know if I should go extreme and just ditch my gui file manager23:05
HackerIInoobie or not, linux makes men out of anybody.23:05
user2635HackerII, lmao23:05
lordcirthuser2635, well, it helps you get familiar with it.  Just be careful, there is no "recycle bin" on the command line.23:05
lordcirthI do most of my file management from the command line now.23:05
user2635lordcirth, true, I forgot that point23:06
lordcirthrm is rm, and that's that.23:06
lordcirthUnless you have snapshots :)23:06
user2635I don't have snapshops23:06
user2635I don't have snapshots23:06
sadleeIf you use I prefer pcmanfm - you get a gui and the baility to drop into the cli right there where you are23:07
HackerIIwhen your intimidated, you lose your cool, its all about mindset.23:07
sadleeMy  typos were crazy there. Hope that made just enough sense :)23:07
R13oseHow do I get rid of the clicking sound of the mouse?23:08
HackerIIsound prefs23:08
HackerIIyou had turn it on23:08
HackerIIturn it off23:08
user2635sadlee, i'll look into it later thanks23:09
hurasafehello23:09
hurasafecan someone teach me how to register?23:09
R13oseHackerII: which prefs?23:10
OerHekshurasafe, register where ?23:10
hurasafeon the #python channel23:10
HackerII! register | hurasafe23:10
ubottuhurasafe: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode23:10
sadleeYou mean with Nickserv ?23:10
OerHeksoh freenode, see ubottu23:10
R13oseHackerII: Which sound prefs do I turn off?23:11
HackerIIR13ose: system/prefs/sound23:11
HackerIIon the bottom23:11
HackerIIaka, "make noises when i use anything"23:11
R13oseHackerII: I don't see that "make noises when i use anything"23:13
hurasafe /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER hurasafe xqofvqxtisrj23:13
HackerIIwow, it was paraphrased,23:13
HackerIIR13ose:  uncheck, enable window and button sounds23:14
lordcirthhurasafe, 1: don't do that here in channel, and 2: don't put a space in front.23:14
HackerIIhurasafe:  change the passwrd, and do it in a pvt window23:15
hurasafelordcirth, sorry. I'm new to this23:15
MyrttiHackerII: it wasn't a password23:15
R13oseHackerII: I don't see anything like that.23:15
HackerIIuse your own nick as a personal window23:15
HackerIIok, ic23:15
HackerIIR13ose:  if you are using unity, it may be different, i have never used unity.23:16
R13oseHackerII: yep unity.23:16
HackerIIR13ose:  it may be different, i am old school and have never used unity, my apologies.23:17
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R13oseAnyone else have ideas?23:18
HackerIIR13ose:  search sound properties in a search23:18
Cykrixanyone around who can help me with my nvidia card crashing? I had it fixed before I reset it but i forgot how I did it originally :|23:19
Cykrixi had to update it to something23:19
OerHeksclicking sound mouse .. maybe your mouse is loud, not speakers at all .. i cannot find such setting23:20
R13oseHackerII: I only see the sound system prefs23:20
OerHeksnot under systemsettings > sound or accessibility23:20
HackerIIits there23:21
R13oseHackerII: where?23:22
Cykrixthe lsmod shows nouveau if that helps;23:22
R13oseOerHeks: I don't see this there.23:22
OerHeksR13ose, me neither23:23
lordcirthNor do I, on 15.1023:23
OerHeksoh, i am on 15.10 too ..23:23
R13oseI am on 16.0423:23
rp2hello, word23:24
rp2I'm thinking of trying to create my first even Ubuntu package in an effort to save my favourite piece of abandonware23:24
rp2so now I'm looking for all packages with similar build dependencies23:25
rp2how do I do that?23:25
R13oseI will not click my mouse during the audio calls until this is figured out.23:25
OerHeksrp2, so what are the build dependencies of your aboandonware?23:26
HackerIIR13ose:  couldnt tell you on 16.04, many things have changes, could also be a  bug, who knows.23:26
sudo_rm-rfHi everybody, someone can help me with Remastersys?23:27
HackerIIR13ose:  i use mate, and its the same config, it should be in frefs/sound, if not, maybe there is something out of the ordinary.'23:27
* HackerII anyway, on the px brb23:28
R13osemate?23:29
rp2OerHeks, well, it's a C++ application, and I just created the list of packages the dynamic libraries it depends on are in ... that's a good list to start with23:29
winston2kMate desktop23:29
rp2so once I have a binary package, it will certainly depend on those packages23:29
R13oseoh23:29
winston2kim using it23:30
rp2so now I'd like to find example packages that depend on these (and as few as possible) so I can apt-get source them and use them as 'inspiration' for building my own23:30
rp2mmm23:30
naccrp2: note that build and runtime dependencies are (possibly) different23:31
OerHeksrp2 not sure how to search through 30K+ packages with apt-cache rdepends ..23:31
lordcirthHackerII, mate desktop is a fork of gnome 2, isn't it?  Unity + Gnome 3 is pretty different23:31
naccrp2: reverse-depends <pkgname> or apt-cache rdepends <pkgname>23:31
OerHekswhat is the use of knowing the dependencies of other packages?23:31
naccrp2: but that's not normally how one would go about this23:31
user2635how do I undo a make install or a make23:32
rp2why not? there is no Debian package23:32
rp2user2635, that is not usually supported23:32
OerHeks!build | user263523:32
ubottuuser2635: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)23:32
naccrp2: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html or https://wiki.debian.org/HowToPackageForDebian23:33
rp2what you can do is redo it, then list all the files that have just changed with find23:33
ines_salut23:33
lordcirthuser2635, you can't generally undo 'make install' but 'make clean' can undo the 'make'23:33
user2635lordcirth, great...23:33
rp2yes, I'm reading the first already23:33
naccrp2: the first seems highly bzr specific, which isn't necessary23:33
user2635lordcirth, then i've just messed up my syste23:33
user2635lordcirth, system23:33
HackerIIlordcirth:  mate is for those of us that are used to what linux waa back in the day.23:34
sudo_rm-rfsorry guys for the disturb but i need help with remastersys if somebody know that23:34
lordcirthHackerII, I'm a fan of dwm myself.  Though not running it at the moment23:34
user2635lordcirth, whats the best way to clean things up? is it too late?23:34
HackerIIas far as 16.04, maybe its a test, who knows, i have 16.04 loaded, with mate, works like a clock.23:35
lordcirthuser2635, not sure, other people here can probably help tho23:35
OerHekssudo_rm-rf, Remastersys is no longer supported, actually23:35
HackerIIthe only thing that lacked, and was repaired was intels graphics driver.23:35
rp2nacc, I want to use Git locally and put it on GitHub when finished (if ever)23:36
rp2user2635, you can redo the make install step and identify all the files that have been written23:36
user2635rp2 and then rm?23:36
rp2then make a list of packages to which those files belong and reinstall those23:37
rp2you should never run make install as root in the first place23:37
HackerIIits hard to compliment new users to the modern format, you have to be patient and familiar with its config before you denegate any form of direction.23:37
rp2to avoid exactly this situation23:37
user2635rp2... great..23:37
user2635newbie mistake23:37
rp2yeah23:37
rp2mistakes are so you learn :)23:37
rp2otherwise we'd all be newbies forever (not that I don't usually feel that way)23:38
naccrp2: just create an empty repository and follow the steps from the deiban wiki, most likely23:38
nacc*debian23:38
user2635rp2, so if I do make install again.. I note down all the packages and reinstall?23:38
user2635I'm a bit confused23:38
HackerIII will say this, when ubuntu completes its objective, apple will be another log gone fad, i am quite now.23:39
rp2if I want to use a PPA for my own package, is Launchpad really the one place to put it?23:39
naccrp2: PPAs are by definition on launchpad, afaik23:39
rp2ok23:39
rp2no reason to look for anything else?23:39
rp2I just want to do the most obvious thing here, being new to it23:40
tewardrp2: you can always create your own package repository, but PPAs are Launchpad only, for the most part23:40
tewardunless you create your own package repository elsewhere23:40
tewardbut you have to build your packages yourself to achieve that23:40
rp2Ok great to know, thanks!23:40
naccrp2: it sounds like you would be fine with a PPA, or possibly getting your package into universe eventually23:40
rp2well ... one problem is I've never done any C development beyond 100 lines of code23:41
rp2and this really is a C++ application23:41
rp2sorry I mean C++ development23:41
rp2so I'm secretly hoping for someone else to pick it up23:42
rp2and meanwhile I just want an easy way to install it on my own systems23:42
R13oseOerHeks: does the mouse sound happen to you?23:42
rp2I guess with your info I have all I need to get started, thanks again!23:42
OerHeksR13ose, no, i am on 15.1023:43
HackerIIR13ose:  you turned it on somewhere, it comes silent from the factory23:44
naccrp2: you might want to just look `checkinstall`23:44
R13oseHackerII: Maybe but what did I click23:44
rp2nacc, wow, looks promising23:45
HackerIIstop clicking things and backtrack, search souns prefs,23:45
HackerIIsounds23:45
HackerIIits there, you once clicked it23:45
OerHeksR13ose, maybe it is not in sound settings, but accessability ??23:46
HackerIIcould B23:46
HackerIIwell said23:46
R13oseOerHeks: I looked there but nothing was on in my settings23:46
HackerIIlog in and back out, see if it disappears23:47
HackerIIreverse. whatever23:47
R13oseThis happened last time too23:48
HackerIIis this a acer machine ?23:48
R13oseyes23:48
HackerIID`oh!23:48
HackerIIhahaha23:48
HackerIIhave a nice day23:48
R13osewhy?23:48
HackerIIlog out and back in23:49
HackerIIwait23:49
R13oseI am on an audio call can't23:49
HackerIIalsamixer  in terminal, turn sounds down23:49
HackerIIactually, for you, install QASmixer and control it from there23:50
HackerIIhave fun, im out.23:50
R13osethaanks23:51
Grug_hi23:56

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