[00:00] <Guest48812> I ve a usb stick that suddenly stopped working , it doesnt show up at all , what can i do ?????
[00:02] <Guest48812> I ve a usb stick that suddenly stopped working , it doesnt show up at all , what can i do ?????
[00:03] <reisio> Guest48812: /nick usbguy
[00:09] <warren_> I was wondering if anyone here could help me with a wifi issue, I've been searching for days and can't find a work around for whats going on that I think should be pretty simple but I haven't used linux in years so a bit rusty :)
[00:09] <bazhang> !ask | warren_
[00:11] <warren_> ok thanks, I loose wifi after suspend. My hw shuts off and I can turn it back on manually but the wifi stays disabled.
[00:12] <warren_> I've found nmcli nm -sleep off or something like that is supposed to fix it but nmcli nm isn't anything
[00:14] <warren_> I've also tried a bunch of scripts claiming to fix it but it hasn't helped or made matters worse
[00:15] <warren_> so my first question would be why if nmcli shows wifi-hw enabled would wifi be disabled?
[00:20] <xangua> warren_: is this a dual boot system?
[00:24] <irregular> hi guys, I connected my laptop to a second monitor (worked fine) but when I went home and turned it on without a second monitor I can't access the windows that were on the second monitor now
[00:25] <irregular> On windows I can do Win button + right or left arrow key to move the window onto the laptop screen
[00:25] <irregular> is there something similar I can do for ubuntu?
[00:25] <danmulvey> ctrl+alt+shift+arrow moves windows between workspaces
[00:25] <Ben64> right click it on the taskbar and select "Move" ?
[00:26] <irregular> danmulvey:I think I'm only on 1 workspace, ctrl alt shoft arrow isn't moving it
[00:27] <irregular> Ben64:can't seem to right click the taskbar
[00:28] <danmulvey> irregular: you could try enabling workspaces in your settings, then move it to a different workspace and back, see if that shifts it over
[00:28] <danmulvey> actually, if you go in your display settings, does it stil show both displays?
[00:29] <danmulvey> maybe you need to disable the second display, or try re-enabling the laptop's display and see if that works
[00:29] <danmulvey> ive had similar problems before, trying to remember what worked for me haha
[00:29] <Ben64> alt+f7 ?
[00:30] <danmulvey> ctrl+alt+arrow moves between workspaces (without moving the window with you) just fyi if you do enable them
[00:30] <irregular> danmulvey:clicked System Settings, laptop froze for a second readjusting everything and I'm back in business!
[00:30] <Ben64> alt+spacebar+m ?
[00:30] <irregular> thanks guys!
[00:31] <danmulvey> awesome!
[00:31] <danmulvey> yeah ive noticed in my experience sometimes all it takes is just refreshing the current setup
[00:31] <danmulvey> of course i usually end up doing that after several hours trying different things, looking around online and in here, etc etc
[00:36] <Norux> is there a good program to put music on my ipod?
[00:40] <dreamaddict> ok, I tried to get source for my lib, using apt-get source <lib>...however, it says I must have source URIs in my source.list file.  OK, then I opened that up and it has some "deb-src" links that are commented out, one for each "deb" entry.  Obviously, some of these have to be uncommented, but I can't tell which ones
[00:40] <dreamaddict> as in, how do I figure out which of the repositories in sources.list is the one that my lib came from
[00:41] <uid1> Hi. I'm running Kubuntu 16.04, just installed MySQL 5.7 and am trying to enable log_slow_queries but get this error:    unknown variable 'log_slow_queries=/var/log/mysql/slow-queries.log'
[00:41] <dreamaddict> apt list <lib> shows xenial,now 2.3.1-3 amd64 [Installed]
[00:41] <dreamaddict> so then, which entry in sources.list do I uncomment?
[00:41] <uid1> I got that from uncommenting the default in /etc/mysql/mysql.conf.d/mysqld.cnf.
[00:42] <uid1> Turns out, it's not a valid option and MySQL won't start.
[00:42] <uid1> Proper variable is "slow_query_log_file  = ..."
[00:43] <teward> uid1: i'd file a bug noting that; even though it doesn't fix much at this opint for you, it'll help the future
[00:43] <uid1> teward: Yeah, was thinking the same thing.
[00:44] <dreamaddict> I guess I'll just uncomment all of the deb-src links and see what happens
[00:50] <winslow__> Hi, all. Not sure if there's a better room to reach the team that handles Ubuntu cloud images, but `vagrant box add ubuntu/xenial64` is currently failing with a 404 when fetching the box.
[00:53] <nacc> winslow__: #ubuntu-server is probably more relevant, but: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-images/+bug/1569237 ?
[00:53] <nacc> dunno much about vagrant
[00:54] <OerHeks> https://vagrantcloud.com/ubuntu/boxes/xenial64/versions/20160608.0.0
[00:54] <winslow__> nacc: Thanks for the suggestion, I'll drop a line there.
[00:55] <Bashing-om> dreamaddict: ' apt show <lib> ' .. will reflect in the file: line which repo the package is located in .
[00:55] <winslow__> OerHeks: yep, but vagrant itself throws a 404 when trying to fetch https://atlas.hashicorp.com/ubuntu/boxes/xenial64/versions/20160608.0.0/providers/virtualbox.box
[00:55] <dreamaddict> there is no file line when I use apt show
[00:57] <nacc> dreamaddict: i think `apt show <pkg> | grep APT-Sources` should work, but the cli is not a stable interface, so it may be better to pipe through less and read it
[00:57] <nacc> dreamaddict: or use `apt-cache policy <pkgname>` to see where it's installed from
[00:57] <dreamaddict> oh there it is... :P
[00:57] <dreamaddict> it's in main
[00:57] <dreamaddict> jesus I'm bad at reading
[00:57] <nacc> dreamaddict: just to be clear, that's not a repository, but a component
[00:58] <dreamaddict> right
[00:58] <nacc> dreamaddict: it doesn't *hurt* anything to enable all deb-src lines, and if you're going to be downloading multiple source packages, it can simplify things. It will use up a bit more space in /var, but nothing significant on its own (and will slow down `apt-get update`, which is probably the biggest impact)
[00:59] <dreamaddict> already did it, I'm reading it right now
[00:59] <dreamaddict> the thing I forgot to do was, run apt-get update after I changed sources.list
[00:59] <dreamaddict> I thought, like, apt-get would read sources.list itself
[01:00] <Bashing-om> dream .. You are so right .. OK ' apt-cache show <lib> ' and look in the filename line . Here " Filename: pool/main/g/gedit/gedit_3.10.4-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb" gedit is in the main repo .
[01:00] <Bashing-om> dreamaddict: ^^
[01:01] <nacc> Bashing-om: interesting differnce between `apt show` and `apt-cache show`...
[01:01] <dreamaddict> see, there's no Filename: line when I do 'apt show'
[01:01] <nacc> dreamaddict: no, apt-get, that would slow down every installation
[01:01] <dreamaddict> I don't know why, exactly
[01:01] <nacc> dreamaddict: right, apt vs. apt-cache
[01:02] <Bashing-om> nacc: Caught me by surprise, nacc ... That is need to know info .
[01:06] <arlion> Hey everyone, I am running 16.04 with Nvidia drivers. I installed the latest version of the drivers and now my luks decryption screen and boot process look ugly
[01:06] <arlion> What processes should I be investigating to correct?
[01:07] <cliffer> is there anybody running amavisd-new with dkim signing (without milter) (ideally running 16.04.) who can provide a config where submitted mail is signed? especially the config from /etc/amavis/conf.d/ where mynetworks is set. amavis does not recognize IPv6:::1] as local:
[01:07] <cliffer> Jun  9 03:03:02 mail amavis[25266]: (25266-01) rw_loop read 65 chars< 250 2.1.0 Ok\r\n250 2.1.5 Ok\r\n354 End data with <CR><LF>.<CR><LF>\r\n
[01:07] <cliffer> Jun  9 03:03:02 mail amavis[25266]: (25266-01) smtp resp to MAIL (pip): 250 2.1.0 Ok
[01:07] <cliffer> Jun  9 03:03:02 mail amavis[25266]: (25266-01) smtp resp to RCPT (pip) (<oliver.wittkopf@rwth-aachen.de>): 250 2.1.5 Ok
[01:07] <cliffer> Jun  9 03:03:02 mail amavis[25266]: (25266-01) smtp resp to DATA: 354 End data with <CR><LF>.<CR><LF>
[01:08] <cliffer> omg excuse
[01:08] <cliffer> s there anybody running amavisd-new with dkim signing (without milter) (ideally running 16.04.) who can provide a config where submitted mail is signed? especially the config from /etc/amavis/conf.d/ where mynetworks is set. amavis does not recognize IPv6:::1] as local: http://pastebin.com/aGXGMxfp
[01:09] <bryce_> Hi. I'm having some kind of x11 problem. How can I stop ubuntu from trying to start the gui every 5 seconds? It's making it impossible to troubleshoot with the console (which is working fine)
[01:09] <arlion> bryce_: you could start a tty session with x11
[01:09] <arlion> bryce_: try alt+f2
[01:10] <bryce_> arlion, all the virtual consoles seem to be affected, it switches to the gui one (the one you get with alt-f7) when it tries to start the gui
[01:10] <arlion> sorry, ctrl+alt+f1 in ubuntu
[01:10] <Jordan_U> arlion: Your boot screen is lower resolution now than when you had an older version of the proprietary nvidea drivers?
[01:10] <bryce_> so I only have about 2 seconds to look at whatever is on the virtual console before it switches away
[01:11] <Jordan_U> bryce_: Boot into rescue mode from the grub menu.
[01:12] <arlion> Jordan_U: I'm trying this for right now:
[01:12] <arlion> https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1149
[01:12] <bryce_> Jordan_U, it still has the same problem when I try to start X in it, but good idea, at least it will let me work on the console. thanks
[01:19] <Jordan_U> bryce_: You're welcome. Probably also want to install openssh-server if you haven't already.
[01:20] <irregular> when I right click my terminal shortcut on taskbar (Launcher), it shows New Terminal Window. I've added an emacs shortcut to task bar but it doesn't say that and I can only open/minimize the currently opened emacs
[01:20] <irregular> how do I open a new instance without terminal?
[01:23] <hispeed67> helloooooooozzzz. i just got a new (to me) computer. using studio 16.04. htop is showing one core at 100%, the other seven at 0
[01:23] <hispeed67> is there something i need to do to enable dual processor?
[01:24] <alexspassworld> this is going to sound insane and dumb in so many ways but i recently purchased the ubuntu phablet
[01:24] <alexspassworld> i cant remember its my name
[01:24] <alexspassworld> anyway i forgotten the passcode and there is NO hardware reset function
[01:25] <alexspassworld> its made by "bq!
[01:25] <LtL> hispeed67: try running 'top' and press 1, any difference?
[01:25] <snfgf> if i have example.com domain, if nameserver for .com domains has A record with my IP, why do i also need NS record?
[01:26] <hispeed67> yes
[01:26] <snfgf> why tho
[01:26] <Nuisance> Hi folks.  How can I pull up something to verify that I am running xubuntu that I can display to the folks here so they know I'm not running chalet?
[01:26] <LtL> hispeed67: better?
[01:26] <hispeed67> no. cpu1= 100%, other 7 at 0%
[01:27] <LtL> hispeed67: man, strange
[01:27] <alexspassworld> its the aquarius m10 i believe
[01:27] <alexspassworld> somekinda ubuntu project
[01:27] <LtL> i got nothing offhand
[01:27] <hispeed67> Nuisance, : cat /etc/os-release
[01:28] <Bashing-om> !password | alexspassworld
[01:28] <k1l> Nuisance: "lsb_release -a |nc termbin.com 9999"
[01:28] <herzeleid26> hola
[01:29] <k1l> alexspassworld: for ubuntu-touch related issues better ask in #ubuntu-touch
[01:29] <alexspassworld> Bashing-om do you have the phablet cos theres no way in and no way out
[01:29] <alexspassworld> thanks
[01:29] <Bashing-om> alexspassworld: Also : http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword . You might find easier .
[01:29] <Nuisance> cat /etc/os-release NAME="Ubuntu" VERSION="16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus)" ID=ubuntu  I'm on the up and up now
[01:30] <Bashing-om> alexspassworld: No  I do not .. is this the Bios you are referrring to ?
[01:31] <alexspassworld> im just trying to get back into a locked pc
[01:31] <Yuri4_> Guys, how can I run some command automatically on every boot?
[01:31] <squinty> irregular,  file -> new frame
[01:33] <nomic> Yuri4_ there is a setup of
[01:33] <nomic> "session and startup"
[01:33] <nomic> on your menu
[01:33] <nomic> ena
[01:33] <nomic> enables you to put in commands/scripts
[01:34] <Yuri4_> nomic, I'm running Ubuntu Server
[01:37] <billsanderz> ardwar
[01:40] <superguest> how do I create a iso on the commandline?
[01:42] <DonkeyHotei> hi. i installed the python-setuptools pkg on trusty, then used the easy_install cmd to grab a program that uses wxpython. now i get "ImportError: No module named wx"
[01:42] <DonkeyHotei> how to fix?
[01:43] <jackson> hi
[01:44] <jackson> bye
[01:47] <hhooeo> I cant log in to ubuntu graphically , after i boot up i get a shel prompt , and ctl+alt+f7 doesnt work , it seems like it doesnt find lightdm or something, am now in a live cd can i fix it from here ????
[01:50] <hhooeo> ?
[01:50] <lethu> hhooeo: which ubuntu version are you using?
[01:50] <hhooeo> 15,10
[01:51] <lethu> hhooeo:  also, what graphics driver are you using if any, and post your kern log
[01:51] <hhooeo> lethu ; how can i find my kernal log ?
[01:52] <lethu> hhooeo: /var/log/kern.log
[01:52] <hhooeo> should i enter the command in the live ubuntu terminal ?
[01:53] <lethu> hhooeo: the command should be "nano /var/log/kern.log"
[01:53] <lethu> hhooeo: and yest in the terminal
[01:53] <lethu> yes*
[01:54] <lethu> hhooeo:  in your affected system's terminal
[01:55] <lethu> hhooeo: either that or mount your affected system then look for the log there
[01:56] <gg5g> Hello
[01:56] <gg5g> Guys, I have a problem
[01:56] <lethu> gg5g: Hi
[01:56] <lethu> gg5g: please describe your issue
[01:56] <gg5g> FOr some reason, my linux is fairly laggy when scrolling with the mouse
[01:56] <gg5g> as well as typing
[01:56] <gg5g> Its not smooth, its choppy
[01:57] <lethu> gg5g: enter "top" in the terminal, and see if any process is eating all the cpu time
[01:57] <lethu> gg5g: fresh install?
[01:57] <hhooeo> lethu ; I found two files kern.log and kern.log1, which one ?
[01:58] <lethu> hhooeo: the first one
[01:58] <gg5g> yes
[01:58] <hhooeo> lethu; how do i upload it to you ?
[01:58] <gg5g> I just installed it
[01:58] <gg5g> I only installed skype
[01:59] <gg5g> there are two "root"
[01:59] <gg5g> one is using 26%
[01:59] <gg5g> the other us 30%
[01:59] <Ben64> gg5g: look at the "command" column, not user
[01:59] <lethu> hhooeo: paste.ubuntu.com
[02:00] <gg5g> mdwwebkit
[02:00] <DonkeyHotei> hi. i installed the python-setuptools pkg on trusty, then used the easy_install cmd to grab a program that uses wxpython. now i get "ImportError: No module named wx"
[02:00] <DonkeyHotei> how to fix?
[02:00] <Ben64> gg5g: you're on mint?
[02:00] <lordcirth> DonkeyHotei, sudo apt-get install python-wxtools
[02:00] <gg5g> yes but I was told it is the same commands
[02:00] <Ben64> gg5g: mint isn't supported in this channel, you need to go to #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[02:01] <DonkeyHotei> lordcirth: tried that, no effect
[02:01] <lordcirth> DonkeyHotei, did it install, but no change?  or was it already installed?
[02:01] <DonkeyHotei> installed but no change
[02:01] <hhooeo> lethu: the file is too big it has 21 gb see http://imgur.com/JPCtpnK
[02:02] <lethu> hhooeo: past the last boot up lines
[02:03] <lordcirth> lethu, hhooeo Are you on 15.04 or later?
[02:03] <hhooeo> lordcirth ; yes i guess
[02:04] <lordcirth> hhooeo, " journalctl -b " will print logs since the last boot.
[02:05] <lordcirth> Which should hopefully be of a more reasonable size
[02:05] <NightHwk> Does anyone know how to fix network problem. I was on ubuntu 15.10 and could access my share drive fine on anther computer but once I upgraded to 16.10 it won't take the network credentials
[02:05] <DonkeyHotei> lordcirth: i googled, and apparently this usually happens when python is both locally installed and from repo but i did no such thing
[02:06] <lordcirth> DonkeyHotei, are you sure that easy_install didn't install wx as a dependency, when you already had it?
[02:06] <DonkeyHotei> lordcirth: i looked in usr/local and i don't see wx there
[02:07] <ats> algue ae
[02:10] <hhooeo> lordcirth ; how can i pastebin it s too huge , i cant get to the last line ?
[02:10] <lordcirth> hhooeo, even journalctl -b is too big?
[02:11] <hhooeo> lordcirth ; yes !
[02:11] <user1997> ola!
[02:12] <Ben64> hhooeo: tail -n50 file
[02:12] <Ben64> will get the last 50 lines, paste.ubuntu.com those
[02:12] <user1997> ???
[02:13] <lordcirth> Ben64, that will work but it will take a long time to run
[02:13] <somsip> !ot | user1997
[02:13] <Ben64> lordcirth: no it won't
[02:14] <hhooeo> Ben64 : is the command "tail -n50 file" ??
[02:14] <Ben64> hhooeo: replace file with the actual file you want to get the lines from
[02:14] <lordcirth> I thought tail read as a stream?  I guess not with files
[02:15] <Ben64> took my system 12.841s to get the last line from a 224GB disk image
[02:15] <lordcirth> Oh.  That's cool
[02:15] <Ben64> yeah, just don't do cat file | tail
[02:16] <lordcirth> I wonder why it would take even that long... One would think it would either jump to the end and be instant, or read the whole thing and take forever... Why 12s?
[02:16] <Ben64> well the "line" was pretty long, it's not text
[02:16] <lordcirth> ah ok.
[02:17] <hhooeo> Bend64 ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/17135481/
[02:17] <lordcirth> So it would jump to the end, and read backwards until it gets 50 \n characters?
[02:17] <hhooeo> lordcirth; http://paste.ubuntu.com/17135481/
[02:17] <Ben64> maybe, not sure the actual mechanics behind it
[02:17] <hhooeo> lethu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17135481/
[02:18] <Ben64> not sure what the problem is here, or why kern.log is so big, or what we're looking for
[02:18] <lordcirth> Well, it seems to be trying to mount sda2, as every filesystem in the book, over and over.
[02:18] <usuario> hola
[02:18] <lordcirth> That's a bit strange.
[02:18] <lordcirth> usuario, hi
[02:19] <usuario> hi
[02:19] <hhooeo> lordcirth ; I tried boot-repair from live cd it didnt fix the problem
[02:20] <lordcirth> hhooeo, well no, you're booting fine, it's your graphics that aren't working.
[02:21] <lordcirth> hhooeo, pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  And tell us what graphics card & driver you are using.
[02:21] <hhooeo> lordcirth ; Exactly
[02:24] <hhooeo> lordcirth; http://paste.ubuntu.com/17135587/
[02:25] <userr> what ubuntu are you talk
[02:25] <DonkeyHotei> lordcirth: my wifi flaked. did i miss something?
[02:25] <Bashing-om> lordcirth: hhooeo "
[02:26] <userr> ah ok
[02:26] <lordcirth> DonkeyHotei, nope
[02:26] <yoLo_> my ubuntu is stuck at /dev/sda1 : clean, xxxxxx/xxxxxx files, ... xxxxxx/xxxxxx blocks
[02:26] <yoLo_> Is there anyway i can fix this ?
[02:26] <lordcirth> Bashing-om, ?
[02:26] <Bashing-om> lordcirth: hhooeo " (sda2): unable to read superblock " Should not the file system be checked .. and maybe spare that super block off ?
[02:27] <yoLo_> I have checked only for a solution but i haven't found any solution in resolving the issue. can any one help ?
[02:27] <lordcirth> Bashing-om, it's trying to mount sda2 as a ton of different things, but I suppose fsck is worth a shot
[02:27] <lordcirth> hhooeo, fsck /dev/sda2
[02:27] <lordcirth> unmount it first
[02:28] <lordcirth> yoLo_, this is on boot?
[02:28] <yoLo_> lordcirth: yes
[02:29] <lordcirth> yoLo_, what Ubuntu version, and have you installed it or updated recently?
[02:30] <OerHeks> !fsck
[02:31] <userr> reset machine may be good, excuse me, i say router
[02:31] <yoLo_> lordcirth: 16.04
[02:31] <yoLo_> I just installed it
[02:31] <lordcirth> yoLo_, ok, so this is straight from the install?  What graphics do you have?
[02:33] <yoLo_> lordcirth: yes, i installed it on a netbook Intel GMA 950
[02:33] <glass> not a ubuntu question but as i have received alot of help from this channel maybe i can sneak this in
[02:34] <yoLo_> graphics card Intel GMA 950
[02:34] <glass> i have my very first interview tomorrow with www.mgbsys.com/ what should i study up on before my interview tomorrow
[02:34] <somsip> glass: so very very offtopic
[02:34] <OerHeks> glass, study: keep on topic.
[02:34] <lordcirth> yoLo_, can you get a terminal by hitting Ctrl-Alt-F2 ?
[02:34] <glass> basically yes
[02:34] <somsip> glass: so, not here.
[02:34] <glass> right on thanks
[02:36] <userr> regards, see you
[02:38] <yoLo_> lordcirth: when i hit that terminal appears but as soon as i release the Ctrl+Alt-F2 it goes back to that same screen
[02:38] <lordcirth> yoLo_, well that's interesting
[02:38] <yoLo_> weird
[02:40] <dbz2k> whats the best way to update qt?
[02:40] <dbz2k> one of my apps need it
[02:40] <DonkeyHotei> hi. i installed the python-setuptools pkg on trusty, then used the easy_install cmd to grab a program that uses wxpython. now i get "ImportError: No module named wx"
[02:40] <lordcirth> yoLo_, do you know how to use chroot?
[02:40] <DonkeyHotei> how to fix?
[02:41] <somsip> DonkeyHotei: what version do you need, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[02:41] <somsip> dbz2k: ^^ (not DonkeyHotei , sorry)
[02:42] <dbz2k> somsip, Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x40807) with this library (version 0x40806)
[02:42] <yoLo_> lordcirth: yes i know
[02:42] <somsip> dbz2k: that doesnt answer either of my questions
[02:43] <yoLo_> but i just can't get rid of the stucked screen
[02:43] <dbz2k> somsip, I am running ubuntu 16.04 srry
[02:43] <yoLo_> i can't even get into terminal
[02:43] <hhooeo> lordcirth ; sorry i went away , here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/17135886/
[02:43] <somsip> !info qt5 | dbz2k
[02:43] <lordcirth> yoLo_, boot off the installer, chroot into the installed system, and 'apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-intel-dbg'
[02:44] <somsip> !info libqt5-core | dbz2k
[02:44] <yoLo_> lordcirth: do i require the installation CD ?
[02:44] <somsip> !info libqt4-core | dbz2k
[02:45] <lordcirth> yoLo_, yes, boot off that to get a working OS, so you can chroot into the hard drive and fix it
[02:45] <yoLo_> ohh i see
[02:45] <yoLo_> wait
[02:45] <somsip> dbz2k: so that's failing badly. You need to find out what you need, but it may be that this has something you need http://askubuntu.com/questions/766615/how-to-install-libqt4-core-and-libqt4-gui-on-ubuntu-16-04
[02:45] <hhooeo> lordcirth ;?
[02:46] <posi> Hey guys. What's the right way to disable core dumps and oom?
[02:46] <somsip> !info libqt5-default | dbz2k
[02:46] <lordcirth> hhooeo, can you please do 'LANG='C' fsck /dev/sda2' so it runs in english?
[02:46] <nneul> is it expected/known that vagrant images for xenial are not available at the moment on the cloud-images site?
[02:48] <hhooeo> lordcirth ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/17135972/
[02:48] <lordcirth> hhooeo, 'lsblk; df -h'
[02:48] <winslow___> nneul: I asked that earlier as well. Not sure if it's been reported correctly or being worked on
[02:49] <winslow___> Uncertain if I should file a bug or not.
[02:49] <hhooeo> lordcirth : http://paste.ubuntu.com/17135996/
[02:49] <dbz2k> somsip, is there a way to know which version a qt app needs? I know it need newer but app is a niche thing so there isnt much on web about it
[02:49] <somsip> dbz2k: what app is it?
[02:49] <mundus2018> HELP
[02:50] <somsip> !details | mundus2018
[02:50] <nneul> Just bad timing on my part to start looking at vagrant right when that stuff is broken... :(
[02:50] <mundus2018> I F***ED UP
[02:50] <mundus2018> ment chown -R user:user ../opt
[02:50] <mundus2018> did ment chown -R user:user ../
[02:50] <dbz2k> somsip,
[02:50] <mundus2018> * did chown -R user:user ../opt
[02:50] <dbz2k> https://www.toontownrewritten.com/
[02:50] <mundus2018> oops
[02:50] <mundus2018> anyway
[02:50] <dbz2k> no source code
[02:50] <mundus2018> I chaned perms on /
[02:50] <mundus2018> and idk how to fix
[02:50] <hispeed67> when i compile, shouldn't it use all 8 cores?
[02:51] <Ben64> mundus2018: reinstall
[02:51] <mundus2018> I cant
[02:51] <Ben64> wait, did you use sudo
[02:51] <mundus2018> no
[02:51] <somsip> dbz2k: no idea, and the help isn't helpful without accepting things I'm not prepared to accept.
[02:51] <Ben64> then everything should be fine
[02:51] <mundus2018> But it changed perms on the sudoers file
[02:52] <Ben64> it can't unless you used sudo
[02:52] <mundus2018> I didnt
[02:52] <nneul> or were already running as root.
[02:52] <dbz2k> somsip, I thought ubuntu has qt5 right?
[02:52] <mundus2018> I was running as user
[02:52] <Ben64> then everything should be fine
[02:52] <lordcirth> hhooeo, are you running off a liveUSB?
[02:52] <mundus2018> its not
[02:52] <Bashing-om> lordcirth: hhooeo Raid array ? ANd the array is not assembled ???
[02:53] <Ben64> mundus2018: ls -l /etc/sudoers
[02:53] <mundus2018> I booted into a livecd
[02:53] <lordcirth> Bashing-om, if you look at his most recent paste, there is a /dev/sda1 and a /dev/sda5 but no /dev/sda2 that it's trying to mount?
[02:53] <Ben64> mundus2018: ls -l /path/to/where/you/mounted/your/root/partition/etc/sudoers
[02:53] <hhooeo> lordcirth; yes i am thats how am accessing this channel !
[02:54] <nneul> what livecd did you use - some of them have a tendency of only using root logins.
[02:54] <hhooeo> Bashing-om; meaning ?
[02:54] <somsip> dbz2k: I believed so. This will show you everything "qt" that's installed dpkg --get-selections | grep qt
[02:54] <Bashing-om> lordcirth: Yeah ,,that is strange .. fstab ?
[02:54] <mundus2018> Which option do I choose?
[02:54] <Grorco> hi after suspend my hardware key for wireless quits working any ideas?
[02:54] <lordcirth> hhooeo, so what device is the lubuntu install?
[02:54] <lordcirth> Bashing-om, yes, I was about to ask
[02:54] <mundus2018> "Boot into first harddrisk"
[02:55] <Ben64> mundus2018: you said you were booted into a livecd
[02:55] <lordcirth> hhooeo, pastebin /etc/fstab from the hard drive
[02:55] <mundus2018> Rescue a broken system?
[02:55] <mundus2018> im guessing that
[02:55] <hhooeo> lordcirth; the same device i am running live lubuntu
[02:56] <lordcirth> hhooeo, no, the hard drive install, that is broken
[02:56] <nneul> using a livecd and then choosing "boot into first hard disk" is only going to help you with grub issues.
[02:57] <nneul> I would second the recommendation to reinstall - however, you CAN recover from this, it's just going to be messy, and you'll have lingering issues.
[02:57] <mundus2018> How bout
[02:57] <mundus2018> for d in * ; do if [ -d ${d} ] ; chmod u+rwx,og+rx-w ${d}; fi
[02:57] <mundus2018> chmod og= root lost+found # more restrictive permissions
[02:57] <reisio> ... :/
[02:57] <hhooeo> lordcirth ; /etc/fstab "  gives me  " bash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied  ??
[02:57] <hispeed67> where do i set -j 8 as a default for gcc?
[02:57] <Ben64> mundus2018: how about you paste what i asked for first
[02:58] <lordcirth> hhooeo, are you trying to run it?  It's a text file, I want the contents
[02:58] <mundus2018> im still trying to boot
[02:58] <hispeed67> or how do i set the number of threads when i do 'make'
[02:58] <lurk> how do I find a package in ubuntu, is there an aur?
[02:58] <mundus2018> I booted into resue a broken system
[02:58] <lordcirth> lurk, you are coming from Arch?
[02:59] <lurk> lordcirth: ya
[02:59] <lurk> but it's good I found it my bad (was already installed)
[02:59] <lordcirth> lurk, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta
[02:59] <lordcirth> ^ compares all package manager commands
[02:59] <lurk> <3
[03:00] <mundus2018> Idk what one it is
[03:00] <mundus2018> http://imgur.com/yVZmXoK
[03:00] <lordcirth> hispeed67, when you call make yourself, -j 8 works.  Do you mean how to do it when other things call 'make'?
[03:01] <mundus2018> (Hostname is root, person who installed accidently put that as the hostname)
[03:01] <nneul> you most likely have the correct one selected.
[03:01] <hhooeo> lordcirth : it gives me a message promp " the specified folder is not valid
[03:02] <lordcirth> hhooeo, cd to the directory that is the hard drive install.  Then 'pastebinit /etc/fstab'
[03:03] <mundus2018> its frozen at a purple screen
[03:04] <mundus2018> nvm
[03:04] <lordcirth> mundus2018, it may take a minute.
[03:04] <mundus2018> its a shell
[03:05] <mundus2018> ok that was right
[03:05] <hhooeo> lordcirth ; http://imgur.com/fC2LtEq
[03:05] <mundus2018> what do I do
[03:05] <lordcirth> hhooeo, use terminal
[03:07] <mundus2018> the sudereros file is
[03:07] <witeshark43> hey i need some advice
[03:08] <witeshark43> seriously
[03:08] <lordcirth> !help | witeshark43
[03:08] <mundus2018> -r--r----- user
[03:08] <DonkeyHotei> hi. i installed the python-setuptools pkg on trusty, then used the easy_install cmd to grab a program that uses wxpython. now i get "ImportError: No module named wx"
[03:08] <DonkeyHotei> how to fix?
[03:08] <Grorco> sorry sys freeze
[03:08] <lordcirth> mundus2018, that is correct for sudoers
[03:09] <mundus2018> apperently not
[03:09] <hhooeo> lordcirth ; it doesnt work from the terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/17136310/
[03:09] <lordcirth> mundus2018, oh wait, owned by "user"?
[03:09] <witeshark43> it's nothing really - and accidentally in the wrong channel - how do I stick the Dell logo back on my laptop?
[03:09] <mundus2018> yea
[03:09] <dandv> When I open a .deb file with Ubuntu Software and try to install it, nothing happens. What's going on? Here's a screencast: http://i.imgur.com/hSyEd9Z.gifv
[03:09] <yoLo_> lordcirth: this whole thing is just messed up.. this netbook just doesn't work..
[03:09] <lordcirth> mundus2018, sorry, -r--r----- is correct, but it should be owned root:root
[03:09] <mundus2018> dandv dpkg -i /path/to/file
[03:10] <Grorco> so is there anyway to reactivate a hw wifi key that stops working after suspend
[03:10] <lordcirth> yoLo_, did installing the intel drivers not help?
[03:10] <Bashing-om> hhooeo: ' sudo mkdir /mnt/look ; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/look ; cat mnt/look/etc/fstab | pastebinit ' when done undo what you id with ' sudo umount /mnt/look ' .
[03:10] <mundus2018> will this work
[03:10] <mundus2018> for d in * ; do if [ -d ${d} ] ; chmod u+rwx,og+rx-w ${d}; fi
[03:10] <yoLo_> I have tried running to boot from installer bu it doesn't boot
[03:10] <dandv> mundus2018: I know about dpkg -i, but even that won't install dependencies automatically. WTF.
[03:10] <yoLo_> lordcirth: CD spins.. HDD lights blinking but nothing displays
[03:11] <yoLo_> then CD stops spinning .. no activity.
[03:11] <lordcirth> hhooeo, you can't "change directory" to something that isn't a directory.
[03:11] <yoLo_> when i hit power cd starts spining and then initiates shutdown
[03:11] <yoLo_> its probably has something to do with my intel atom
[03:12] <lordcirth> hhooeo, just call pastebinit with the whole path, if you want
[03:12] <yoLo_> nothing works except puppy linux but i hate it..
[03:12] <lordcirth> yoLo_, didn't you use the installer in the first place?
[03:12] <yoLo_> and windows works but it will run very slow
[03:12] <yoLo_> yes i did
[03:12] <lordcirth> yoLo_, puppy uses Vesa graphics, that is probably why.
[03:13] <hispeed67> where do i set that -j 8 for compiling to use all my cores?
[03:13] <lordcirth> hispeed67, it depends on what tool is doing the compiling
[03:13] <hispeed67> hmmm.. 'make'?
[03:13] <yoLo_> anyways.. due bedtime
[03:13] <yoLo_> thanks for the help lordcirth
[03:14] <lordcirth> yoLo_, np.  If you can get those drivers installed, I bet it will work.
[03:14] <yoLo_> my netbook is 8years old.. its just a joke now
[03:14] <yoLo_> i will keep trying
[03:14] <lordcirth> yoLo_, boot puppy linux and chroot from there, if that works
[03:15] <yoLo_> puppy uses ppm, no sudo no apt-get and pretty much everything in the repo is totally out dated
[03:16] <ines_ubuntu> hello! anyone have an idea about how can i install xamarin studio on ubuntu if it's able
[03:16] <lordcirth> yoLo_, it doesn't matter, that's what the chroot is for
[03:17] <yoLo_> alright anyways i will try doing this another time.. right now i'm just too exhausted
[03:17] <yoLo_> lordcirth: thanks
[03:17] <hhooeo> lordcirth: sorry, here http://paste.ubuntu.com/17136412/
[03:18] <DonkeyHotei> lordcirth: any further ideas?
[03:18] <lordcirth> hhooeo, that looks like your livecd fstab
[03:18] <ines_ubuntu> hello!
[03:19] <lordcirth> !patience | ines_ubuntu
[03:19] <hhooeo> lordcirth; because i am not in the directory of the install
[03:20] <lordcirth> hhooeo, well, I asked for the installed fstab.
[03:21] <hhooeo> lordcirth : do i need to reboot and go to shell , cant i do it from this live lubuntu ?
[03:21] <lordcirth> hhooeo, there is no reason you can't do it from the livecd
[03:21] <lordcirth> Just go into the hard drive partition and get it
[03:22] <lordcirth> hhooeo, ' pastebinit /media/lubuntu/af74cae9-a31e-4eaf-8e8c-c601f0962d12/etc/fstab'
[03:22] <mundus2018> When I do for "d in * ; do if [ -d ${d} ] ; chmod u+rwx,og+rx-w ${d}; fi" I get this error "/bin/sh: 7: Syntax Error: "fi" unexpected (expecting "then")"
[03:23] <hhooeo> lordcirth: am sorry , here is it the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/17136466/
[03:23] <somsip> mundus2018: missing a then will give that error
[03:24] <mundus2018> Im trying to follow this
[03:24] <mundus2018> http://superuser.com/questions/563287/fix-a-permission-disaster-ubuntu-linux-in-directory
[03:24] <mundus2018> thats the exact command
[03:24] <lordcirth> hhooeo, that's the one
[03:24] <hhooeo> lordcirth: what does it say ?
[03:25] <mundus2018> is this correct? --- d in * ; do if [ -d ${d} ] ; chmod u+rwx,og+rx-w ${d}; then fi
[03:25] <lordcirth> hhooeo, read it yourself :P
[03:25] <lordcirth> hhooeo, fstab tells the OS what partitions to mount
[03:26] <lordcirth> hhooeo, there is nothing there about /dev/sda2, which is weird because the logs showed the kernel was trying to mount /dev/sda2
[03:27] <lordcirth> hhooeo, now, your original problem was that it said something about missing lightdm, is that correct?
[03:27] <somsip> mundus2018: that script looks like it's missing a then and a done to me, but I'm no bash expert
[03:27] <jackcom> how can i install wireshark?
[03:28] <hhooeo> lordcirth ; yes , but i can reboot to get the exact words of the errors
[03:28] <reisio> jackcom: apt-get?
[03:28] <mundus2018> jackcom, https://launchpad.net/~wireshark-dev/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[03:28] <somsip> !info wireshark | jackcom
[03:28] <reisio> jackcom: it's in the 'universe' repo
[03:29] <jackcom> sudo apt install wireshark-qt
[03:29] <mundus2018> Add the ppa then apt get install wireshark-common
[03:29] <lordcirth> hhooeo, if it's missing a package, you should be able to just install it from the command line you get.
[03:29] <jackcom> ?
[03:29] <coffinyo> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=wireshark&searchon=names&suite=xenial&section=all
[03:29] <jackcom> sudo apt install wireshark-qt ?
[03:29] <jackcom> yes?
[03:29] <somsip> mundus2018: ppas should only be recommended with the caveat that they are unsupported
[03:29] <lordcirth> jackcom, -qt or -gtk, as you like
[03:30] <hhooeo> lordcirth: would u prefer me to reboot and get the errors shown ?
[03:30] <hhooeo> lordcirth; yes but I need to know which package !
[03:30] <lordcirth> hhooeo, it would be easier for you to install the packages from the command line anyway.  I will be leaving soon anyway
[03:30] <jackcom> thanks lordcirth
[03:30] <lordcirth> hhooeo, well, did it say lightdm?  Then lightdm.
[03:31] <hhooeo> lordcirth :; yes
[03:31] <lordcirth> hhooeo, also keep in mind you can install irssi or weechat to use IRC from console.
[03:31] <hhooeo> lordcirth ; should i install lightdm maybe ?
[03:33] <hhooeo> lordcirth; is there a program like boot-repair that can fix this kind of problem?
[03:33] <lordcirth> hhooeo, try running 'startx' from the console.  installing lightdm may be the fix whether or not that works
[03:33] <lordcirth> hhooeo, no, this is not a boot problem.
[03:33] <Ben64> don't try running startx
[03:33] <lordcirth> Ben64, why not?
[03:33] <Ben64> it's not the proper way to do anything in ubuntu
[03:33] <lordcirth> Ok, disregard that then
[03:34] <hhooeo> lordcirth>; what startx does exactly
[03:34] <lordcirth> hhooeo, it tries to start your desktop directly.  But apparently you're not supposed to do that in Ubuntu, so don't.
[03:35] <mundus2018> How do I fix this?
[03:35] <mundus2018> for d in * ; do if [ -d ${d} ] ; chmod u+rwx,og+rx-w ${d}; fi
[03:35] <Ben64> mundus2018: reinstall
[03:35] <rc34> hello
[03:35] <mundus2018> Its not an option Ben64
[03:35] <hhooeo> lordcirth; why i cant in ubuntu if it would fix it ??
[03:35] <Ben64> mundus2018: then you should be more careful with how you use sudo/root
[03:35] <mundus2018> I wasnt in sudo or root
[03:35] <lordcirth> hhooeo, well, it probably wouldn't, apparently.  I am used to using it in other distros
[03:35] <Ben64> mundus2018: you were, or you couldn't have changed the owner of /etc/sudoers
[03:36] <mundus2018> I guarentee I wasnt in sudo
[03:36] <mundus2018> or root
[03:36] <mundus2018> I was under the user
[03:36] <xbox> Hi
[03:36] <Ben64> i guarantee you you can't change the file without root or sudo
[03:36] <lordcirth> mundus2018, it is literally impossible to chown /etc/sudoers unless you are root.
[03:36] <z999_> hi how do i change the repositories in the latest install
[03:36] <xbox> all of us is connected on xbox ?
[03:36] <mundus2018> well litterly I was under the user
[03:36] <mundus2018> I will show my history when I fix it
[03:37] <xbox> have a new version of ubuntu beyond 10.10for x360 ?
[03:37] <rc34> what swapfile size should i use for a server running apache and mysql with 64GB ram? even under high traffic, ram usage never goes above 20GB
[03:38] <jackcom> Lua: Error during loading: [string “/usr/share/Wireshark/init.lua”]:44: dofile has been disabled due to running Wireshark as superuser.   <—— i got error message
[03:38] <jackcom> what’s wrong?
[03:38] <lordcirth> rc34, I don't think you need one, then.
[03:38] <Ben64> mundus2018: you might be able to do something like chown root:root bin boot cdrom dev etc lib lib32 lib64 media mnt opt proc root run sbin srv sys tmp usr var
[03:38] <Ben64> but it still might not work
[03:38] <DonkeyHotei> rc34: just use zram
[03:39] <lordcirth> xbox, I have heard it is possible to install Ubuntu on an Xbox 360, but I don't think that's supported here.
[03:39] <lordcirth> Ah yes, zram is good.
[03:39] <Ben64> jackcom: don't run wireshark as root
[03:39] <jackcom> ok i will try it
[03:40] <xbox> lordcirth ,i'm talking from a xbox360 man !!!
[03:40] <z999_> how do i change the repositories for os 16.04
[03:40] <mundus2018> running that Ben64
[03:40] <Ben64> mundus2018: should probably have put a -R in there then
[03:40] <xbox> but its limited
[03:41] <mundus2018> oops
[03:41] <mundus2018> is it ok?
[03:41] <xbox> dont work youtube anymore for exemple
[03:41] <jackcom> void DBusMenuExporterPrivate::addAction(QAction*, int): Already tracking action "" under id 189   <—— error too Ben64 :(
[03:41] <z999_> what is the recommended repositories for 16.04
[03:41] <OerHeks> z999_, change repositories?? no need for that after install or upgrade
[03:41] <mundus2018> no I would nned -R
[03:41] <Ben64> jackcom: how did you install wireshark
[03:41] <z999_> i upgraded in april and now it is saying that the repositories may be old
[03:42] <xbox> its simple to run ubuntu on xbox360 with a Glitch RGH !
[03:42] <lordcirth> xbox, that's great, but I don't think anyone here can help you with such a niche case.
[03:42] <jackcom> sudo apt install wireshark-qt Ben64
[03:42] <Ben64> z999_: what is the output of "cat /etc/issue"
[03:42] <xbox> lordcirth , ok man tanks anyway ..
[03:42] <xbox> XP
[03:43] <mundus2018> the sudoers file is now ---------- root root
[03:43] <Ben64> well you broke it
[03:43] <Ben64> now you need to reinstall
[03:43] <nudoge> is there an /etc/sudoers,v?
[03:43] <mundus2018> fucking hell
[03:43] <DonkeyHotei> you don't need to reinstall
[03:44] <DonkeyHotei> just boot recovery mode
[03:44] <z999_> ben64 Ubuntu 16.04 LTS \n \l
[03:44] <mundus2018> Im in recovery
[03:44] <mundus2018> trying to fix shit
[03:44] <OerHeks> no need for that, mundus2018
[03:44] <mundus2018> this command didnt work
[03:44] <mundus2018> for d in * ; do if [ -d ${d} ] ; chmod u+rwx,og+rx-w ${d}; fi
[03:44] <Ben64> z999_: can you post the message saying stuff is outdated?
[03:44] <DonkeyHotei> if you're in recovery mode then you are root
[03:44] <mundus2018> SOrry for language
[03:44] <Ben64> mundus2018: nobody said to do that
[03:44] <OerHeks> mundus2018, lolz, why did you do that anyway ?
[03:44] <Ben64> mundus2018: you literally broke it by doing that
[03:44] <lordcirth> DonkeyHotei, if I understand correctly, he's just recursively chowned his entire /.
[03:44] <somsip> mundus2018: I told you it was wrong...
[03:44] <mundus2018> I didnt do that
[03:44] <mundus2018> I did what Ben64 said
[03:44] <nudoge>  if d in * '
 this command didnt work
[03:45] <nudoge>  if d in * < that is kinda vauge
[03:45] <Ben64> suggests you did it
[03:45] <mundus2018> It didnt do anything
[03:45] <z999_> no ben64
[03:45] <DonkeyHotei> oh, if he chowned / then he does need to reinstall
[03:45] <Ben64> also the changed permissions on sudoers suggests you did something involving chmod
[03:45] <Ben64> therefore, you broke it.
[03:45] <nudoge> mundus2018: is there an /etc/sudoers,v file?
[03:45] <Ben64> time to reinstall
[03:45] <mundus2018> idk
[03:45] <mundus2018> I did what you said
 for d in * ; do if [ -d ${d} ] ; chmod u+rwx,og+rx-w ${d}; fi
[03:46] <Ben64> did you do that y/n?
[03:46] <z999_> the update information is outdated. This may be caused by network problem or a repository that no longer available, Ben64
[03:46] <mundus2018> n
[03:46] <mundus2018> all I did was chown root:root bin boot cdrom dev etc lib lib32 lib64 media mnt opt proc root run sbin srv sys tmp usr var\
[03:46] <Ben64> what exactly did you do since  Jun 08 2016 20:08:17 <mundus2018>	-r--r----- user
[03:46] <mundus2018> and chown -R root:root bin boot cdrom dev etc lib lib32 lib64 media mnt opt proc root run sbin srv sys tmp usr var
[03:46] <mundus2018> that was all
[03:46] <Ben64> because now you say Jun 08 2016 20:43:20 <mundus2018>	the sudoers file is now ---------- root root
[03:46] <nudoge> find ./ -type f -exec chmod 750 {} \;
[03:46] <lordcirth> mundus2018, -R is recursive, you chown'd every file on your hard drive, reinstall
[03:46] <OerHeks> mundus2018, don't be childish, you came here with: mundus2018> Im trying to follow this <mundus2018> http://superuser.com/questions/563287/fix-a-permission-disaster-ubuntu-linux-in-directory which makes your system unusable beyond repair
[03:47] <Ben64> nudoge: no
[03:47] <OerHeks> mundus2018, reinstall and have fun again
[03:47] <mundus2018> OerHeks, It didnt run
[03:47] <nudoge> Ben64: no what?
[03:47] <z999_> ben64?
[03:47] <Ben64> just no, don't do or suggest that nudoge
[03:47] <mundus2018> chown -R root:root bin boot cdrom dev etc lib lib32 lib64 media mnt opt proc root run sbin srv sys tmp usr var, broke it?
[03:48] <mundus2018> probably
[03:48] <mundus2018> riperino
[03:48] <nudoge> look for a revision in sudoers or tell him he is chmodding wrong?
[03:48] <Ben64> z999_: can you paste.ubuntu.com the output of "sudo apt-get update"
[03:48] <DonkeyHotei> nudoge: no, that undoes setuid/setgid
[03:48] <Ben64> mundus2018: no, your weird chmod thing
[03:48] <mundus2018> I didnt chmod anything
[03:48] <OerHeks> mundus2018, sure .. we did it
[03:48] <mundus2018> Im not blaming it on anybody
[03:49] <mundus2018> I F*ed it up to start
 for d in * ; do if [ -d ${d} ] ; chmod u+rwx,og+rx-w ${d}; fi
[03:49] <Ben64> did you do this
[03:49] <mundus2018> its my faint im not mad
[03:49] <Ben64> spoiler - you did
[03:49] <lordcirth> mundus2018, well, it doesn't really matter, because you chowned everything, that's quite enough
[03:49] <mundus2018> No Ben64
[03:49] <nudoge> DonkeyHotei: so looking for a RCS is a bad idea?  What are you saying.  I was correcting the for loop.
[03:49] <DonkeyHotei> [Wed 2016-06-08 08:46:56 PM PDT] <nudoge> find ./ -type f -exec chmod 750 {} \; <----- this is bad
[03:49] <Gallomimia> doing a find on everything and exec'ing a chmod on everything is a bad idea
[03:50] <DonkeyHotei> it also sets everything executable
[03:50] <Gallomimia> tho it might be pertinent in the directory you're in. it's rather ambiguous what the working directory is
[03:50] <mundus2018> can I
[03:50] <lordcirth> executable fstab!  what could go wrong
[03:50] <mundus2018> try to 777 everything?
[03:50] <Gallomimia> no
[03:50] <Ben64> mundus2018: no,
[03:50] <lordcirth> mundus2018, that won't help.
[03:50] <mundus2018> i mean
[03:50] <OerHeks> it cannot do any more harm to mundus2018s installation
[03:50] <Ben64> nope, reinstall time
[03:50] <mundus2018> I already broke it enough
[03:50] <lordcirth> mundus2018, that will just break different things
[03:51] <mundus2018> I already broke everything
[03:51] <lordcirth> mundus2018, yeah, so reinstall.
[03:51] <mundus2018> Can it do more harm?
[03:51] <Gallomimia> i really want to follow along with what's happened?
[03:51] <Gallomimia> something chown'd the sudoers file, and now no one can sudo?
[03:51] <nudoge> chmod u+rwx, og+rx-w == chmod 755.
[03:51] <Ben64> Gallomimia: mundus2018 ran a chown command recursively with either root or sudo, chowning the entire filesystem
[03:51] <lordcirth> Gallomimia, he broke some permissions, ran some recursive chown's trying to fix it, now all of / is root:root
[03:52] <mundus2018> Ben, I didnt use sudo
[03:52] <Gallomimia> well, that's a bit of trouble
[03:52] <lordcirth> And some chmod's in there somewhere apparently, not that it matters at this point
[03:52] <Ben64> Gallomimia: mundus2018 keeps insisting they didn't use sudo, but obviously it happened
[03:52] <DonkeyHotei> nudoge: that is not 755 because setuid/setgid
[03:52] <Gallomimia> are there no permissions fixing scripts involved?
[03:52] <mundus2018> I didnt ben
[03:52] <mundus2018> I swear I didnt
[03:52] <Gallomimia> available* i mean
[03:52] <OerHeks> mundus2018, if so, then your system should be healthy ..
[03:52] <lordcirth> mundus2018, it couldn't have happened if you didn't, so you did, somehow.
[03:52] <Gallomimia> i know mac has something that will fix all the permissions in the system files
[03:52] <Ben64> Gallomimia: so i suggested to chown everything back to root, which might have worked, but then mundus2018 must have ran some chmod stuff that ended up setting things to 000, so now everything is nice and broken
[03:53] <OerHeks> boot and see
[03:53] <mundus2018> is there a command hitstory file
[03:53] <mundus2018> cuz seriously
[03:53] <mundus2018> I didnt
[03:53] <Gallomimia> yes
[03:53] <lordcirth> mundus2018, 'history'
[03:53] <DonkeyHotei> he doesn't need sudo because he's already root
[03:53] <Gallomimia> it's .bash_history
[03:53] <Ben64> mundus2018: /home/user/.bash_history
[03:53] <mundus2018> Well I cant right now lord4163
[03:53] <mundus2018> *lordcirth
[03:53] <Gallomimia> let's start asking some simple questions in preparation for what's going to happen
[03:53] <Gallomimia> 1. do you have any important files on your system?
[03:53] <nudoge> you can also run rkhunter to get more information about files out of perms
[03:54] <lordcirth> nudoge, I think it's probably too broken for that to work.
[03:54] <Gallomimia> 2. do you have any special configs that took a long time to setup and would be lost in a reinstall?
[03:54] <nudoge> if it is too broken I just keep hitting it with a hammer until it jump starts.
[03:54] <mundus2018> Ok
[03:55] <mundus2018> Your right
[03:55] <Gallomimia> now, if i understand correctly, running programs as root does not respect permissions? he should be able to fix something...
[03:55] <mundus2018> Idk how
[03:55] <mundus2018> I was sure I didnt
[03:55] <mundus2018> cat /root/.bash_history show I did it in root
[03:55] <Gallomimia> done is done. pack up and move on. but hope you can learn from something
[03:55] <lordcirth> Gallomimia, many programs will fail to run if they can't read their configs, or if others can
[03:55] <nudoge> rkhunter!
[03:55] <Gallomimia> maybe you had a bash session running with root permissions?
[03:55] <mundus2018> something idk
[03:55] <lordcirth> nudoge, rkhunter will only find a fraction of them
[03:56] <Gallomimia> root kit hunter? it fixes some permissions?
[03:56] <lordcirth> He'll never get this system totally fixed without a reinstall
[03:56] <mundus2018> I chown ed 777
[03:56] <lordcirth> Gallomimia, yeah, on like a handful of important things
[03:56] <nudoge> but its a fraction closer to not broke, it tells you about out of perm files.
[03:56] <Gallomimia> well, it could fix things to a point where he can back up some stuff
[03:56] <mundus2018> maybe I can boot up and copy files
[03:56] <mundus2018> idk
[03:56] <lordcirth> If he's already running a livecd then he can already
[03:56] <Gallomimia> you can always boot from a LiveUSB and copy files off to somewhere else
[03:56] <mundus2018> we'll see
[03:57] <Gallomimia> remember that. so can other people
[03:57] <mundus2018> Yeah im in the liveusb but im rdping into a windows machine and its super slow
[03:57] <Ben64> pretty sure you have to run rkhunter once so it can remember the permissions
[03:57] <nudoge> Please tell me how the find ./ -exec is wrong in this case?  Like a link or something?
[03:57] <Gallomimia> ah. that's a problem then
[03:57] <mundus2018> so im going to try to boot so I can ssh
[03:57] <Ben64> then the 2nd time notifies you of changes
[03:57] <DonkeyHotei> hi. i installed the python-setuptools pkg on trusty, then used the easy_install cmd to grab a program that uses wxpython. now i get "ImportError: No module named wx"
[03:57] <DonkeyHotei> how to fix?
[03:57] <Gallomimia> nudoge: it's just a dangerous command to tell people in this channel
[03:58] <Gallomimia> also, you need exec permissions on directorys, and not-exec on most files
[03:58] <Gallomimia> find -exec chmod will goober all that
[03:58] <nudoge> nope
[03:58] <nudoge> find ./ -type f -ls # lists files
[03:59] <Ben64> yes, and you don't want all files set to 750
[03:59] <Gallomimia> ah so you did send that
[03:59] <Gallomimia> and you don't want exec on every single file
[03:59] <reisio> nudoge: heh
[03:59] <mundus2018> Lets see if it boot
[03:59] <Gallomimia> just the actual executables
[03:59] <reisio> much like find . -type f
[03:59] <mundus2018> dun dun DUN
[03:59] <Ben64> most executables are going to be 755 anyway
[03:59] <nudoge> reisio: yup
[04:00] <mundus2018> its bootin
[04:00] <Gallomimia> from the drive you muckered?
[04:00] <mundus2018> yea
[04:00] <Gallomimia> were you booted from liveUSB?
[04:00] <mundus2018> I chmodec 777
[04:00] <mundus2018> yea
[04:00] <nudoge> dirs are normally 755 files are in some cases 644.  then run rkhunter and peice it back together.
[04:00] <Gallomimia> ah. changes to the liveUSB don't stick
[04:01] <Gallomimia> but your recursion would have gone thru your drive if it was mounted
[04:01] <mundus2018> I was in recovery
[04:01] <Gallomimia> anyway, it's a really bad idea to leave your system with 777 perms
[04:01] <mundus2018> with the hdd mounted
[04:01] <Gallomimia> recovery eh? was it mounted read only?
[04:01] <mundus2018> no
[04:01] <Gallomimia> aw
[04:01] <DonkeyHotei> maybe nudoge has a point
[04:01] <mundus2018> im in
[04:01] <Ben64> mundus2018: try "sudo ls"
[04:02] <mundus2018> sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set
[04:02] <DonkeyHotei> mundus2018: if it booted, try using rkhunter
[04:02] <Ben64> one of many things broken
[04:02] <OerHeks> DonkeyHotei, you need to install wxpython i guess > pip install wxpython
[04:02] <Ben64> time to reinstall
[04:02] <Ben64> and be more careful with root/sudo
[04:02] <mundus2018> yeah I could have swore I wasnt in it
[04:02] <mundus2018> Can I install over SSH?
[04:03] <nudoge> su user # is your friend
[04:03] <Gallomimia> what's the # part do?
[04:03] <Gallomimia> install over ssh? no
[04:03] <Ben64> mundus2018: make a livedvd / usb and install from that
[04:03] <Ben64> maybe the same one you were just booted from
[04:03] <DonkeyHotei> OerHeks: but that's already installed from the repo. why do i have to also install it locally? also, i don't think i have the pip cmd
[04:03] <nudoge> but in single user mode I think you have to stay root
[04:03] <mundus2018> im copying my hom dir
[04:03] <z999_> how do i paste in ubuntu.com?
[04:03] <z999_> website?
[04:03] <mundus2018> then diching this
[04:04] <nudoge> mundus2018: learn find for stuff like that.  for is for writing quick programs
[04:04] <Ben64> z999: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:04] <mundus2018> this is a friends install
[04:04] <Gallomimia> ouch
[04:04] <z999> ben64 http://paste.ubuntu.com/17137025/
[04:04] <Gallomimia> don't tell him ;)
[04:05] <mundus2018> I was seting up a plex/cp/sickrage/ect. thing
[04:05] <mundus2018> he dosent know how to use linux
[04:05] <mundus2018> lol
[04:05] <mundus2018> but
[04:05] <mundus2018> Im not going to tell him, well see if he notices
[04:05] <somsip> mundus2018: when you kille his install, you shouldn't really mock
[04:05] <DonkeyHotei> OerHeks: ?
[04:05] <Ben64> z999_: thats a problem with google's repo
[04:05] <mundus2018> I aint mocking him
[04:05] <DonkeyHotei> mundus2018: there is stuff in /etc you might want
[04:06] <Gallomimia> i wonder if there's anything else in the drive you might want
[04:06] <mundus2018> hm
[04:06] <mundus2018> im not sure
[04:06] <z999_> been64 how did i get google rep?
[04:06] <DonkeyHotei> maybe also /var
[04:06] <mundus2018> All the media was on an external drive
[04:06] <Gallomimia> *was
[04:06] <DonkeyHotei> and of course the list of installed pkgs
[04:06] <Gallomimia> was that mounted too?
[04:06] <Ben64> z999_: you must have added it
[04:06] <z999_> ben64 what do you recommend
[04:07] <mundus2018> Its mounted on /media
[04:07] <lordcirth> Gallomimia, the media can be chowned/chmodded properly, it shouldn't be complicated
[04:07] <z999_> ben64, i upgraded. i don't remember adding it. ok how d o i change it
[04:07] <Gallomimia> yeah it won't need much to fix it
[04:07] <mundus2018> well /media/sdb1
[04:07] <lordcirth> It's the system that's fried
[04:07] <Gallomimia> but you will need to fix that too
[04:07] <Ben64> z999_: you can remove it if you don't need the google talk plugin
[04:07] <mundus2018> I should copy fstab
[04:07] <mundus2018> and smb config
[04:07] <z999_> ben64 ok
[04:07] <lordcirth> mundus2018, just tar /etc
[04:07] <Gallomimia> yes and yes
[04:07] <z999_> ben64 what do you recommend?
[04:08] <Ben64> z999_: removing it if you don't need it
[04:08] <Gallomimia> i think that's his way of asking how
[04:08] <z999_> ben64 don't need it
[04:08] <OerHeks> z999_, if should not given you any i386 package, so remove those entries from sources
[04:08] <Ben64> the repository lines are in either /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[04:08] <mundus2018> How do I get a package list?
[04:10] <mundus2018> hm
[04:10] <z999_> ben64 do i sudo?
[04:10] <mundus2018> cp is saying permission denied
[04:10] <mundus2018> even though everything should be 777
[04:11] <z999_>      /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ i get directory
[04:12] <Gallomimia> yep. the trailing slash indicates its a directory
[04:12] <DonkeyHotei> mundus2018: if you're booted into the system, "dpkg --get-selections"
[04:12] <Gallomimia> anyway, i'll ask for your pardon folks. i just stuck my nose in cause i was interested in mundus2018's problem. seemed a sticky one and i wanted to learn a few things. GL
[04:13] <mundus2018> haha
[04:13] <mundus2018> cya
[04:13] <DonkeyHotei> my problem might be sticky too
[04:13] <mundus2018> wtf
[04:13] <mundus2018> One second my drive is mounted
[04:13] <mundus2018> next its not
[04:14] <mundus2018> and mount -a dosent work
[04:14] <tnuc> https://www.facebook.com/groups/176997275744771/permalink/890219427755882/?sale_post_id=890219427755882   can you guys see this?
[04:14] <tnuc> not  sure if it's a public group, but basically some guy is trying to sell a desktop computer with radeon 5770 graphics for 800$
[04:14] <somsip> tnuc: nothing to do with ubuntu - move on
[04:16] <mundus2018> ok
[04:16] <mundus2018> well
[04:16] <mundus2018> its time
[04:16] <z999_> https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/generate.php Ben64
[04:17] <DonkeyHotei> tnuc: "You must log in to continue."
[04:19] <mundus2018> You have GOT to be kidding me
[04:19] <mundus2018> I deleted the wrong VM
[04:20] <mundus2018> could this day be any worse
[04:23] <z999> Ben64, ?
[04:25] <OerHeks> z999_, just remove those ppa entries from sources, type sources in dash and the sources-gui should show up
[04:25] <OerHeks> no need to generate a fresh list
[04:26] <z999_> OerHeks, sources-gui does not show up
[04:27] <OerHeks> softwarecenter > edit > sources is an other way
[04:30] <z999_> thx OerHeks
[04:30] <DonkeyHotei> grrr
[04:34] <red__> salve
[04:34] <reisio> salvete
[04:35] <DonkeyHotei> i installed the python-setuptools pkg on trusty, then used the easy_install cmd to grab a program that uses wxpython. now i get "ImportError: No module named wx" even though python-wxgtk2.8 was already installed in the system. how do i get it to see it? do i really have to install wxpython into /usr/local separately?
[04:36] <Guest28569> I can't connect to IRC using HexChat on a System76 laptop using Ubuntu Xenial; can someone help me troubleshoot?
[04:36] <reisio> Guest28569: if you send this: /nick irchelpguy
[04:37] <reisio> or /nick fatelvis
[04:37] <reisio> etc.
[04:37] <Guest28569> how's that
[04:37] <test01> how's *that*?
[04:37] <dax> test01: what happens when you try
[04:37] <dax> do you get a connection error message in hexchat's status window, or...?
[04:39] <test01> Connection failed; cycling to next server in Ubuntu Servers; Disconnected; looking up <FQDN>; Connecting to <FQDN>
[04:39] <_44trent> so i'm trying "sudo apt source linux-image-$(uname -r)" and it picks linux as the source package instead of linux-image-4.4.0-22-generic
[04:39] <_44trent> does anyone know why this is happening?
[04:39] <dax> _44trent: linux is the source page for the linux-image-* binary packages
[04:39] <dax> package*
[04:39] <_44trent> well, it's telling me it's not found
[04:40] <dax> like, apt-get source is?
[04:40] <_44trent> yes
[04:40] <dax> erm, apt source*
[04:40] <dax> what's the actual full error it's giving (paste to paste.ubuntu.com and link here if it's multi-line)
[04:40] <_44trent> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17137492/
[04:41] <test01> Why can I connect via webchat but not via HexChat?
[04:41] <dax> test01: that's not helpful. i don't use hexchat though, so not sure how to get something useful
[04:41] <dax> the hexchat error, i mean
[04:41] <DonkeyHotei> test01: literally <FQDN> ?
[04:41] <dax> #hexchat might know i guess. or someone else here
[04:41] <test01> No, Connecting to chat.freenode.net (162.213.39.42:6667) eg
[04:41] <_44trent> i did sudo apt update before i did that
[04:41] <_44trent> so it couldn't be outdated package lists
[04:42] <dax> _44trent: pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list and any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[04:42] <DonkeyHotei> test01: is there connectivity otherwise?
[04:42] <dax> don't need to be separate, it all gets concatenated together anyway
[04:42] <test01> Yes, it's fine otherwise
[04:42] <_44trent> is there a way to use cat directly pastebin it?
[04:42] <DonkeyHotei> test01: maybe hexchat proxy settings?
[04:43] <_44trent> i remember someone having a website that cat worked with
[04:43] <dax> _44trent: cat ~/some_file.txt | nc termbin.com 9999
[04:43] <_44trent> alrighty
[04:43] <dax> assuming you have nc
[04:43] <dax> there's a pastebinit package too
[04:45] <test01> I don't know; thanks for trying; this sucks
[04:45] <_44trent> http://termbin.com/av8k, http://termbin.com/4sde
[04:45] <kshenoy> I'm trying to connect to Cisco Anyconnect VPN but I don't see an option in Network Manager. I have installed opeconnect and network-manager-openconnect
[04:46] <_44trent> i'm guessing it'll be some stupid thing i forgot to do
[04:46] <dax> _44trent: in sources.list, remove the # from the deb-src lines that are right below uncommented deb lines
[04:46] <_44trent> ...yep
[04:46]  * _44trent facepalms
[04:46] <dax> _44trent: then update package lists again, then should be good to go
[04:46] <dax> no worries, it's a common issue :)
[04:47] <OerHeks> !info OpenConnect
[04:47] <kshenoy> OerHeks: Any suggestions?
[04:47] <OerHeks> kshenoy, this old guide should still be valid http://askubuntu.com/questions/627638/cisco-anyconnect-compatible-vpn-openconnect-in-ubuntu-15-04
[04:48] <OerHeks> install openconnect, and see the image in the url, vpnc should be available
[04:49] <DonkeyHotei> vpnc has nothing to do with openconnect
[04:49] <kshenoy> OerHeks: Did all that. Still can't see AnyConnect in Network Manager. I can connect to vpn with CLI so I know openconnect is installed correctly
[04:55] <OerHeks> maybe you need network-manager-openconnect-gnome too.
[05:01] <fyf> \exit
[05:02] <kshenoy> OerHeks: Installed that too : /
[05:05] <fyf> \q
[05:05] <fyf> \quit
[05:29] <B> Hey
[05:37] <winslow___> FYI I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-images/+bug/1590647 just so the xenial64 vagrant box issue isn't lost
[05:43] <sesox> I want to change the permission of 10 directory to 755 but not recursively, also I don't want to do that for directories that their name start with "d".
[05:44] <sesox> How can I do that?
[05:50] <OerHeks> sesox,  6 clicks per folder
[05:50] <lone-genius> Hello
[05:51] <winslow___> sesox: are they all at the same level? like parent/this1, parent/this2, etc?
[05:51] <lone-genius> Hey guys i was wondering if anyone could help me out
[05:52] <lone-genius> i would really aprciate it
[05:52] <lone-genius> *apreciate
[05:52] <somsip> !details | lone-genius
[05:52] <lone-genius> okay well im somewhat new to this thing called ip tables?
[05:53] <lone-genius> and i was wondering if anyone could tell me what this bash script code does? and if its right?
[05:53] <lone-genius> ip='nc -nvl 21 2>&1 1> /dev/null | grep -i from | awk '{print $3;}''
[05:53] <lone-genius> and im on Ubuntu 16.04
[05:54] <lone-genius> didnt mean everyone to leave...sorry
[05:54] <somsip> lone-genius: putputs nc -nvl, takes all matching lines that have 'from' in it, and takes the value of the third space-delimited column and assigns it to variable "ip"
[05:55] <lone-genius> okay well this is my whole script...and i really do apreciate it somsip
[05:56] <lone-genius> and like please tell me what you think and what i should change...im trying to learn about honeypots
[05:56] <lone-genius> while [ 1 ]
[05:56] <lone-genius> do
[05:56] <lone-genius> ip='nc -nvl 21 2>&1 1> /dev/null | grep -i from | awk '{print $3;}''
[05:56] <lone-genius> echo %ip
[05:56] <lone-genius> iptables -A INPUT -p -s $ip -j DROP
[05:57] <somsip> lone-genius: we dont do programming advice in this channel. Its for ubuntu support. Maybe there is an iptables channel that is better for you
[05:57] <somsip> !alis | lone-genius
[05:58] <lone-genius> okay well thanks...and abt ubuntu support
[05:59] <lone-genius> i typed in... sudo ufw allow 22 ...and its still not letting me SSH??
[06:01] <lurk> how do I resolv my DNS in ubuntu 12.04?
[06:04] <rob> hello
[06:04] <lurk> yoyoyo
[06:08] <craptalk> how to make ubuntu run faster on an old PC?
[06:08] <EriC^^> craptalk: try lubuntu
[06:09] <somsip> craptalk: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2194/how-can-i-improve-ubuntu-overall-system-performance
[06:09] <craptalk> i used it, but didnt seem any faster
[06:09] <craptalk> windows 10 run faster on my old one
[06:09] <craptalk> but i just cant believe that
[06:10]  * OerHeks thinks whats-in-a-name
[06:11] <KekSi> craptalk: do you have all the necessary drivers installed then?
[06:30] <craptalk> KekSi: i do
[06:36] <dman> hey guys if someone has a ppa ie https://launchpad.net/~skettler/+archive/ubuntu/php and i want to add some other php packages to that is it possible
[06:36] <dman> like can i take his ppa, fork it and modify the build script or however it works
[06:42] <Numnum> why cant i run a script from the terminal?
[06:42] <stuckling> Hey guys, I am trying to install Ubuntu using USB but it gets stuck on "Preparing to Install Ubuntu" screen, I checked both options.
[06:43] <lowbro> Numnum: maybe it has no execution rights?
[06:43] <stuckling> Numnum: did you give it exe rights (chmod +x scriptnameHere)
[06:43] <bjpenn> anyone know how to bypass the limit for environment vars stored in /etc/environment
[06:43] <Numnum> i have a few scripts in my /Scripts folder. i do cd /Scripts but when i enter its name it says command not found
[06:43] <Numnum> i do have rights :)
[06:43] <Numnum> i am superuser xD
[06:44] <lowbro> are those shell scripts? Then try sh ./Script.sh
[06:44] <stuckling> yes yes but you need to make the file an executable
[06:44] <stuckling> but usually ./ScriptNameHere  does the job
[06:44] <Numnum> oh lol
[06:44] <Numnum> i used to be able to tun them without the sh
[06:45] <Numnum> run^
[06:45] <hateball> Numnum: make them executable with chmod +x
[06:46] <stuckling> Hey guys, I am trying to install Ubuntu Gnome using USB but it gets stuck on "Preparing to Install Ubuntu Gnome" screen, I checked both options for downloading updates and third-party software
[06:46] <reisio> stuckling: and that was your mistake
[06:46] <reisio> never check those
[06:46] <stuckling> why not reisio? and are they easy to install after?
[06:47] <Numnum> its ok i am making a one script to rule thhem all
[06:47] <reisio> stuckling: yes they are
[06:47] <lowbro> Numnum: will you name that script Skynet?
[06:48] <reisio> stuckling: but they vastly overcomplicate the base installation process
[06:48] <stuckling> Alright, I will try installing without those two things
[06:48] <stuckling> Well I have been using Linux for a while, but just on my laptop, so now I decided to switch my desktop to Linux too
[06:49] <Numnum> sorry to ask that dunb question... but how do i delete files stright from the command line?\
[06:49] <reisio> Numnum: rm
[06:49] <Numnum> kk :P
[06:50] <stuckling> Numnum: rm fileName   to remove directory you need rm directoryName -r   (r stands for recursive)
[06:50] <hateball> !manual | Numnum
[06:50] <stuckling> but be careful with the rm command, you can remove your whole OS :D
[06:50] <reisio> not really
[06:51] <stuckling> are you sure reisio? he is running as superuser
[06:52] <reisio> you can't accidentally delete your entire OS if you've only just learned what the _name_ of the command for deleting a file is
[06:52] <reisio> you can barely delete your OS even with rm alone and many advanced options
[06:53] <reisio> it definitely deletes files, though
[06:53] <reisio> the only way to learn to respect that is to accidentally delete one you didn't mean to :D
[06:53] <stuckling> so a command like rm -rf / wouldn't fuck your system up?
[06:53] <robotti^> stuckling: not really
[06:53] <robotti^> stuckling: just try
[06:53] <stuckling> No
[06:54] <robotti^> stuckling: there is safeguards
[06:54] <stuckling> Doesn't matter
[06:54] <stuckling> you can try out the safeguards :)
[06:54] <Cablegunmaster> Question how to set a preference device for sound?
[06:55] <Cablegunmaster> I switch 3/4 times a day for a audio device, for travelling and listening
[06:55] <reisio> it's not really a safeguard
[06:55] <reisio> it's GNU giving you a big middle finger :p
[06:55] <reisio> but no, it won't work
[06:56] <reisio> Cablegunmaster: hrmm?
[06:56] <robotti^> stuckling: it just say, it is dangerous to use rm recursive at /
[06:56] <Cablegunmaster> reisio: like you attach your headphones, device detected  is in preference over the current rest so switch sound *
[06:56] <robotti^> stuckling: when you type it there :)
[06:57] <Cablegunmaster> reisio: like hdmi > headphones > Speakers of laptop.\
[06:57] <Cablegunmaster> like make a preference list.
[06:57] <reisio> Cablegunmaster: headphones and laptop should be automatic
[06:57] <toshywoshy> Is there a significant difference between Debian partitioning and Ubuntu partitioning, as my debian preseed file used on ubuntu 16.04lts keeps on asking me to confirm the partitions manually
[06:57] <reisio> dunno about hdmi
[06:57] <Cablegunmaster> usb headphone reisio ;)
[06:58] <Cablegunmaster> always have to do it manually :p
[06:58] <reisio> Cablegunmaster: :p
[06:58] <Cablegunmaster> my experience tells me switch every time manually reisio :p\
[06:58] <reisio> Cablegunmaster: might check with pavucontrol
[06:59] <Cablegunmaster> whats pavucontrol :)?
[06:59] <reisio> a package/app
[07:00] <stuckling> but regardless rm should be used with respects, I have before lost a couple of files just because I was slightly too fast to press Enter :D
[07:00] <reisio> that's worse if you use -fr
[07:01] <stuckling> yup
[07:01] <reisio> a nice precaution against that is to do rm /that/there/path
[07:01] <reisio> and then add -fr at the end
[07:01] <stuckling> and especially if you do like  rm *.pdf but instead you do   rm * .pdf
[07:01] <reisio> :p
[07:01] <stuckling> that will also remove everything and then complain that it could not find any pdf files :D
[07:02] <stuckling> but yes, I had my share of accidents with rm
[07:02] <stuckling> and still get them ^^
[07:02] <reisio> unrm
[07:03] <stuckling> Have any of you read through the Linux Commandline book/website?
[07:03] <reisio> _the_?
[07:03] <reisio> I guess not
[07:05] <stuckling> It is a great book if you want to get into the use of terminal
[07:05] <PositiveCreep> I think referring to linuxcommand.org
[07:05] <ubuntu__> @stuckling. I'm reading 'The Linux Command Line' by Shotts now. It's very good.
[07:05] <reisio> PositiveCreep: thinking again? :p
[07:06] <stuckling> Yep, that is the book ubuntu__
[07:06] <PositiveCreep> reisio: I was wrong? In that case, I'll have to give it a few more hours before I try to boot /brain functions :p
[07:06] <stuckling> it is the same guys who did linuxcommand.org just a book version
[07:06] <reisio> PositiveCreep: being wrong again? :p
[07:07] <ubuntu__> I haven't seen linuxcommand.org before. Yes it is the same author.
[07:08] <france> on startup im directed to bootmenu. I click on ubuntu and then this appears: /dev/sda1: unexpected inconsistency; run fsck manually
[07:08] <PositiveCreep> Pretty useful resource.
[07:08] <reisio> twss
[07:08] <france> then I read: busybox v1.22.1 and then i am in initramfs
[07:08] <france> I need to fix this, thanks
[07:09] <ducasse> stuckling: you can alias 'rm' to 'rm -I' if you are worried someone might make a mistake. or just use zfs snapshots ;)
[07:09] <reisio> france: might try http://askubuntu.com/questions/132965/how-do-i-boot-into-single-user-mode-from-grub
[07:09] <Cablegunmaster> stuckling  gimme a title and I give it a shot :)?
[07:11] <france> are you sure I shouldnt try this? I just googled: http://thenubbyadmin.com/2011/08/10/solving-the-error-unexpected-inconsistency-run-fsck-manually-on-a-linux-machine/
[07:11] <stuckling> Cablegunmaster: http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php  they have a website version but more like for reference
[07:11] <Cablegunmaster> astucking: William E. Shotts, Jr. ?  Is the author?
[07:11] <Cablegunmaster> stuckling /\
[07:20] <bjpenn> anyone know where to set environment vars?
[07:20] <bjpenn> i want everything to have access to it
[07:20] <bjpenn> not just bash
[07:21] <Electro> hey
[07:21] <stuckling> Cablegunmaster: yes, he is the author
[07:21] <Electro> i have a problem on ubuntu 16.04 with mouse
[07:21] <stuckling> it is a very decent book if you are new to the commandline (like me :D)
[07:21] <Electro> usb mouse don't work after login
[07:25] <Tex_Nick> bjpenn: have a look @ ~/.profile
[07:27] <OerHeks> good start >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[07:29] <int-main> If I change lightdm.conf and I get a black screen instead of login prompt, how can I revert the change?
[07:30] <lyze> int-main, press ctrl+alt+f2 or f3 or f4,... till you get a tty ... login there and revert the changes
[07:30] <int-main> lyze : thanks, I'll try
[07:31] <DevAntoine> hi
[07:33] <neredsenvy> I have one screen with 3000x1400 resolution and one with 1920x1080 on first one (native) i need UI scaling applied which I have set at 200%
[07:33] <neredsenvy> problem is this also scales the second screen
[07:33] <neredsenvy> Is it possible to disable UI scaling on secondary screen
[07:33] <bjpenn> OerHeks: it says to use /etc/environment, but setting a value in there thats more than a certain limit will not work
[07:34] <bjpenn> OerHeks: when you try to echo the env var, it will just output up to a certain amount
[07:34] <bjpenn> which is really annoying
[07:34] <scriptwarlock> good day
[07:35] <OerHeks> neredsenvy, maybe this page is any help, xrandr http://askubuntu.com/questions/393400/is-it-possible-to-have-two-different-dpi-configurations-for-two-different-screen
[07:35] <cihhan> Hi all! I would like to build a secure apt repo that is publicly available but I want only defined users to be able to have access to it. While searching, I have seen that one method is to use SSH. Do you have any suggestions?
[07:35] <scriptwarlock> good day
[07:39] <OerHeks> cihhan, publicly available  <> only defined users ... that bites.. but i think you want a team-ppa , see visability and Membership policies https://help.launchpad.net/Teams/CreatingAndRunning
[07:39] <scriptwarlock> anyone ca help me about openssl and stuff? got stuck on bad certificate password and such in ubuntu
[07:40] <bjpenn> OerHeks: any ideas?
[07:40] <bjpenn> about environment vars and where to set them... in a way where theyre accessible, and i dont have a character limit like i do with /etc/environment
[07:40] <bjpenn> or any way on how to bypass the character limit?
[07:40] <neredsenvy> Amazin Ubuntu does not have a working UI scaling support
[07:40] <neredsenvy> still better than other distros
[07:41] <Tex_Nick> neredsenvy: not sure what distro/de you're running, but xrandr might do what you need ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[07:41] <OerHeks> bjpenn, nope, i think you are better off with  ~/.bashrc, or maybe ~/.bash_profile
[07:41] <cihhan> OerHeks, thanks for your answer. Well, SSH based APT would solve the issue but there are some reivews out there not suggesting it. That's why I wanted to check it with the experts here :)
[07:42] <bjpenn> OerHeks: those vars only work with bash
[07:42] <bjpenn> OerHeks: ie... if i start a bash shell, those vars will only exist in there
[07:42] <neredsenvy> Some solution when you have to go calculating resolution and scale factor than trying to manually figure out the absolute position for your screen.
[07:42] <neredsenvy> I hope Unity8 will actually have a working UI scaling support.
[07:42] <bjpenn> OerHeks: if i run a java program for instance, or a python, how would I get the environment vars in there?
[07:43] <OerHeks> neredsenvy, this page didn't help ?? http://askubuntu.com/questions/393400/is-it-possible-to-have-two-different-dpi-configurations-for-two-different-screen
[07:44] <neredsenvy> No
[07:44] <neredsenvy> It does a half ass job
[07:44] <OerHeks> bjpenn, not sure where, maybe tex hint >> ~/.profile
[07:45] <bjpenn> OerHeks: .profile only gets read in login shells
[07:47] <elricsfate> valvazork, Magic
[07:49] <france> I just executed fsck /dev/sda1 -f from tails as livecd and the screen freezed, how scared should I be?
[07:50] <al2o3-cr> bjpenn: are you tring to access env vars from a python/java script?
[07:50] <OerHeks> france if pressing caps lock changes the led off/on, it is oke i guess
[07:51] <bjpenn> al2o3-cr: yeah
[07:52] <france> OerHeks: I dont have leds to indicate if caps are on or off, but the mouse also freezed...
[07:52] <al2o3-cr> so what's the problem?
[07:52] <al2o3-cr> just set them and be done
[07:53] <OerHeks> france hdd led is blinking?
[07:53] <al2o3-cr> env vars are global
[07:53] <france> OerHeks: do laptos have those leds too?
[07:53] <bjpenn> al2o3-cr: where should i set them for it to be global?
[07:53] <france> OerHeks: I dont see anything blinking
[07:54] <OerHeks> france, i haven't seen a laptop without leds
[07:54] <al2o3-cr> bjpenn: /etc/profile
[07:54] <bjpenn> al2o3-cr: that only worksf or login shells
[07:54] <BlenderPro> I'm upgrading ubuntu 10.04 you think it will run safely on the internet
[07:54] <BlenderPro> I had it on a cd
[07:54] <bjpenn> al2o3-cr: ie. when i log in via ssh
[07:54] <france> OerHeks: ill have to pay more attention, but no, no leds are blinking, and function keys dont work either
[07:55] <bjpenn> al2o3-cr: my program runs in a non login shell
[07:55] <OerHeks> france then it crashed i guess
[07:55] <al2o3-cr> bjpenn: will still work
[07:55] <bjpenn> al2o3-cr: for example when you start your system, and nginx runs, it doesnt run in a login shell
[07:55] <bjpenn> al2o3-cr: non login shells dont read  ~/.profile
[07:55] <al2o3-cr> bjpenn: oh, sorry missed that
[07:56] <france> jesus christ...
[07:56] <france> OerHeks: unplug?
[07:56] <akik> bjpenn: how about /etc/environment
[07:56] <al2o3-cr> bjpenn: have you tried?
[07:56] <bjpenn> akik: /etc/environment is good, but i just realized theres a limit on how long your variables values can be
[07:56] <Numnum> can i ask bash quetions here?
[07:56] <Numnum> like how to use select?
[07:56] <akik> bjpenn: al2o3-cr didn't say ~/.profile
[07:56] <bjpenn> akik: /etc/profile is only read via login shells
[07:57] <bjpenn> akik: so anyone who logs in to the system will have the values in /etc/profile
[07:58] <akik> bjpenn: man bash tells that if you execute a non-login shell with --login, /etc/profile is read
[07:58] <DanBangWTFRajib> Hello, I am having trouble with SSH into ubuntu box outside of home network.
[07:59] <akik> well it says non-interactive but i think that's what you're looking for
[07:59] <xCykrix> hey anyone around that can help me with formatting a usb?
[07:59] <lyze> DanBangWTFRajib, have you port forwarded?
[07:59] <lyze> xCykrix, gparted?
[07:59] <Ben64> xCykrix: ask your question to find out
[07:59] <xCykrix> yep
[08:00] <lyze> ask c;
[08:00] <xCykrix> gparted gives me Libparted Error | Invalid argument during seek for write on /dev/sdb
[08:00] <DanBangWTFRajib> lyze, its 14.04 LTS and no port forwarded. Just installed ubuntu and set static IP.
[08:01] <DanBangWTFRajib> I want to be able to ssh into it from anywhere, so, the firewall rules is set also like that
[08:01] <lyze> DanBangWTFRajib, well I'm sure your modem / router / whatever has a firewall. To access a services from outside of your network you need to port forward it
[08:01] <lyze> Ah
[08:01] <xCykrix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17138931/ | Thats the details of it
[08:02] <xCykrix> I've been trying for like 2 hours, FAT NTFS and all other types fail
[08:02] <lyze> DanBangWTFRajib, have you checked that the ISP allowes this?
[08:03] <DanBangWTFRajib> lyze, thanks... interesting topic about firewall in router. Yes the centOS box is just fine in the same network.
[08:03] <bjpenn> akik: yeah but im not even trying to use bash to run my programs
[08:03] <Ben64> xCykrix: looks like you're trying to write past the end of the drive
[08:04] <xCykrix> Its a 4GB Flash drive
[08:04] <bjpenn> akik: how would you execute a non-login shell with --login?
[08:04] <france> OerHeks: im now using fsck to recover dev/sda1... Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read... do I ignore the error or not?
[08:04] <Ben64> xCykrix: so why would you try to make a 14GB partition on it
[08:04] <akik> bjpenn: for example in a script #!/bin/bash -l
[08:04] <Numnum> guys what does elect do in bash? why does it return select:not found ?
[08:05] <Numnum> select^
[08:05] <xCykrix> thats what it automatically wanted
[08:05] <reisio> Numnum: 'help select'
[08:05] <akik> bjpenn: how do you start your program?
[08:05] <bjpenn> akik: but all programs would have to run through bash then right?
[08:05] <bjpenn> its started through upstart
[08:05] <bjpenn> theres an upstart script
[08:06] <akik> bjpenn: all the sysv init scripts do that
[08:06] <bjpenn> akik: what are you referring to when you say "do that"
[08:06] <akik> bjpenn: the init scripts use #!/bin/bash or equivalent
[08:06] <bjpenn> akik: they dont
[08:06] <xCykrix> why doe it think its a 15+gb?
[08:07] <xCykrix> does*
[08:07] <akik> bjpenn: this is not an argument :)
[08:07] <bjpenn> akik: trying to find an example
[08:07] <bjpenn> yeah
[08:07] <bjpenn> not trying to argue :p
[08:07] <akik> bjpenn: they do
[08:07] <bjpenn> akik: which init script are you looking at?
[08:07] <agent_white> What's the tldr
[08:07] <al2o3-cr> bjpenn: honestly they do :p
[08:07] <reisio> tldr: pants not required
[08:07] <akik> bjpenn: that was just a reference that service scripts do that
[08:08] <bjpenn> akik: youre talking about /etc/init.d/* scripts?
[08:08] <bjpenn> they use #!/bin/sh
[08:08] <akik> bjpenn: for upstart you would need to find another way
[08:09] <akik> bjpenn: /bin/sh was /bin/bash before. now it's /bin/dash
[08:09] <agent_white> reisio: Good thing I was prepared.
[08:09] <agent_white> \o/
[08:09] <bjpenn> akik: but what i mean is they're not #!/bin/bash now
[08:09] <bjpenn> so they wont read profile
[08:09] <akik> bjpenn: have you looked into adding env variables into upstart scripts?
[08:09] <bjpenn> first of all, they arent a login shell, secondly they arent bash
[08:10] <agent_white> #!/usr/bin/env bash
[08:10] <Numnum> i still dont uinderstand the error...
[08:10] <agent_white> akik: No systemd?
[08:10] <Numnum> select help didnt help me xD
[08:10] <reisio> agent_white: heh
[08:10] <bjpenn> akik: thats possible, but again, having to manually put in environment variables for every upstart script is not feasible
[08:11] <bjpenn> actually i dont think i addressed that point
[08:11] <france> can anyone explain to me how is it possible fsck lists so many errors?
[08:11] <france> I dont misstreat my computer that much
[08:11] <bjpenn> akik: but yeah i'd have to basically find a way to put all those env vars into every single upstart file
[08:11] <Ben64> france: hard drives die
[08:11] <bjpenn> this is not a one off situation akik
[08:11] <akik> agent_white: bjpenn is using upstart
[08:11] <reisio> france: what FS?
[08:12] <france> ext4
[08:12] <bjpenn> trying to find a solution where all my upstart jobs can do this...
[08:12] <reisio> france: ever lose power or do hard resets?
[08:12] <agent_white> ENV variables and init... wat.
[08:12] <agent_white> That doesn't sound right.
[08:12] <france> reisio: yes, a bug has been bothering me for a long time...
[08:12] <peterlustig> wie bekome ich virtual ma zum laufen
[08:12] <reisio> france: what bug?
[08:12] <bjpenn> akik: the actual problem is that i got my upstart to read /etc/environment without declaring env vars in upstart... but theres another issue where the values in /etc/environment has a limit to how many characters
[08:12] <france> basically I have to unplug the cable each time I want to turn the os down reisio
[08:12] <lyze> !de | peterlustig
[08:13] <reisio> france: well that's really quite terrible
[08:13] <france> reisio: as soon as I find the link to the bug I filled on launchpad ill paste it
[08:13] <bjpenn> akik: if you try to set a var FOO thats 1000 characters, and then echo $FOO
[08:13] <bjpenn> it wont output all of it
[08:13] <reisio> france: if you can suspend at all, that might be better than killing the power
[08:13] <akik> bjpenn: oh i thought that problem was long gone :(
[08:13] <Numnum> guys i am trying to use select.. i do select opt $OPTIONS; do
[08:13] <Numnum> i returns an error
[08:13] <bjpenn> akik: you ran into that issue too?
[08:14] <france> reisio: suspend will redirect me to a log in menu, right?
[08:15] <akik> bjpenn: no but i tested it on 14.04 bash just now and 1000 chars is ok for a env variable
[08:15] <reisio> france: no, it'll reload everythig you had open beforehand
[08:15] <agent_white> bjpenn: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1078031/what-is-the-maximum-size-of-an-environment-variable-value
[08:15] <france> reisio: and what do I do after suspend to turn it off?
[08:15] <reisio> france: after you power it back on after powering it (almost but not 100% entirely) down
[08:15] <reisio> france: you don't, you leave it
[08:15] <reisio> it should turn off enough that most people would think it's off
[08:15] <agent_white> bjpenn: If you value string exceeds 1k characters, something is VERY wrong.
[08:16] <reisio> but it's really on enough to be able to turn itself back on
[08:16] <Ben64> i got over 1000 easily on my 14.04 too
[08:16] <akik> bjpenn: i tested with $ yes y | head -1000 | tr -d '\n'
[08:16] <agent_white> ie improper usage of env
[08:16] <akik> put the value into an env variable and then counted it with wc
[08:17] <france> reisio: does suspend consume energy?
[08:17] <BlenderPro> pros
[08:17] <BlenderPro> anyone here knows what's app armor
[08:17] <france> I mean I constantly take my laptop from home to work... Im gonna have to unplug the cable eventually
[08:17] <france> reisio:
[08:17] <reisio> france: yes, but only barely
[08:18] <agent_white> BlenderPro: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppArmor
[08:18] <reisio> france: there are different levels
[08:18] <agent_white> BlenderPro: What is it?
[08:18] <reisio> france: the maximum level consumes no power, really
[08:18] <reisio> france: if it works in any form it'd be better than hard resets
[08:19] <france> reisio: you are saying I can safely unplug the cable when the os is suspended?
[08:19] <Ben64> what cable
[08:19] <reisio> france: this is a laptop?
[08:20] <france> reisio: yes
[08:20] <reisio> france: does the battery work?
[08:20] <france> yes, battery I have and it works
[08:20] <reisio> okay...
[08:20] <reisio> so have you been giving it unsafe reboots or not?
[08:21] <akik> bjpenn: i just looked into /etc/init for the upstart scripts and you can easily add env variables in them
[08:22] <france> if unplugging the power cable because mz xubuntu 16.04 freezes each time I try to turn it off is unsafe, then yes, plenty
[08:22] <france> reisio:
[08:22] <france> my*
[08:22] <reisio> it would if you weren't using something powered by a battery :p
[08:23] <france> FIXXXXXXXXXXXXED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:23] <reisio> gj
[08:24] <bjpenn> akik: not for bash
[08:24] <bjpenn> akik: for /etc/environment
[08:25] <bjpenn> akik: we are not trying to use environment that pertains only for bash
[08:25] <bjpenn> akik: otherwise i'd have to wrap everything in #!/bin/bash scripts
[08:25] <akik> bjpenn: sorry i don't follow you. i thought you were trying to create an upstart service for your application
[08:26] <bjpenn> akik: i have an upstart service, that i was able to get to read /etc/environment
[08:26] <france> reisio: I still dont understand what your idea is: if I suspend and leave it like that I cant take my laptop to work
[08:26] <reisio> france: sure you can
[08:26] <reisio> but that doesn't matter
[08:26] <bjpenn> akik: but the challenge is the /etc/environment values has some limit
[08:26] <bjpenn> akik: theres a value i have thats basically a "private key", which is 5000 characters long
[08:27] <france> reisio: yes I can, but if I understood you correctly I have to milk my battery...
[08:27] <bjpenn> akik: so one solution is to try and bypass the /etc/environment character limit, if thats possible
[08:27] <bjpenn> im not sure if it is
[08:27] <akik> bjpenn: but if you use upstart, wouldn't it be logical to have the variable *in* the upstart script?
[08:28] <bjpenn> akik: its not because these environment varaibles are read by everything... not just those upstart scripts... it would be a nightmare to declare them in /etc/environment, then in each upstart file
[08:28] <bjpenn> there has to be one single location where i can declare an environment variable and everything can fetch the env values from there
[08:29] <bjpenn> i mean theres ways you can hack it to make it work, on a case by case basis, but im looking for a solution... not really a hack that wouldnt work at any scale
[08:29] <bjpenn> that wouldnt work at scale*
[08:29] <reisio> $foo$bar$baz$qux
[08:30] <reisio> or save it in a file instead of a var
[08:30] <reisio> $(cat $file)
[08:30] <bjpenn> yeah
[08:30] <reisio> or save it in the script itself
[08:30] <reisio> in a here doc
[08:31] <bjpenn> yeah, that would require an entire refactoring of all the apps we use to instead of reading env vars, it will read from file
[08:31] <bjpenn> but yeah that would be better
[08:31] <reisio> if the init parser supports those
[08:31] <akik> bjpenn: well there's still /etc/bash.bashrc. does it work for you?
[08:31] <reisio> bjpenn: or gzip it?
[08:33] <lerner> reisio, hi, Im the person who just fixed a broken hdd with fsck. The bug I filled is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1589109
[08:33] <akik> bjpenn: oh it's only for interactive shells
[08:34] <reichelt> Hi, I'm currently having the problem that, after hibernation, my second screen isn't recognized
[08:34] <reichelt> So this are the outputs of xrandr and lspci: https://nopaste.me/view/75e51db9
[08:35] <reichelt> I'm running ubuntu 16.04 on a Thinkpad T440s. Is this a known bug, is there a workaround or should I maybe post a bug report?
[08:36] <lerner> what can I do to see what Xubuntu does on closing it? It could be the machine is shutting down and because I only see the backdrop and nothing else I believe it has crashed...
[08:37] <bjpenn> akik: trying to find osmething that doesnt have to go through bash
[08:37] <bjpenn> akik: otherwise i'd have to wrap everything around bash scripts
[08:37] <geirha> bjpenn: just create your own file in /etc. And any script that needs it must source that
[08:38] <bjpenn> :(
[08:39] <Tex_Nick> bjpenn: jeeze man, i haven't followed your entire thread regarding this, but a 5000 rather radical, first i saw of this was where to set env path, not seems length is also an issue ?
[08:40] <Tex_Nick> *5000 character env var
[08:40] <bjpenn> Tex_Nick: its like an ssh key
[08:40] <bjpenn> a private key
[08:40] <bjpenn> Tex_Nick: thats why its so long, but i mean yeah
[08:40] <bjpenn> other option would be to read it from a file
[08:41] <bjpenn> which birngs up other issues
[08:41] <Murii> Hey! Are there any programs which will let me boot my USB into a Journal so I can install back OSX?
[08:41] <Murii> PLS halp, I am disperated
[08:41] <ikonia> Murii: into a journal ???
[08:41] <ikonia> Murii: what ?
[08:42] <Murii> that format that osx is using
[08:42] <Murii> journal...
[08:42] <lerner> can I safely remove grub.ucf-old?
[08:42] <ikonia> Murii: what ???
[08:42] <ikonia> Murii: the format journal ???
[08:42] <ikonia> what are you talking about
[08:42] <Tex_Nick> bjpenn: does this at all adress your issue ?
[08:42] <Murii> FAT32 is not working on macs
[08:42] <bjpenn> akik: al2o3-cr i wanna thank you guys for helping me btw
[08:43] <bjpenn> and also agent_white
[08:43] <Tex_Nick> bjpenn: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1078031/what-is-the-maximum-size-of-an-environment-variable-value
[08:43] <bjpenn> Tex_Nick: thats the maximum size of an env var for bash scripts or something i believe
[08:43] <Tex_Nick> sorry for two liner
[08:43] <bjpenn> theres a hard limit on the value in /etc/environment
[08:43] <bjpenn> which a separate thing
[08:44] <ikonia> Murii: you want to put a usb in a mac
[08:44] <ikonia> Murii: is that what you're saying
[08:44] <lerner> is it a problem that my grub file has this line? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_os_name='Windows 2001.1'"
[08:44] <reisio> lerner: you tell us: is it a problem?
[08:45] <lerner> can that line cause my os not to shut down when I tell it to turn it down?
[08:45] <agent_white> bjpenn: I tuned out... don't think I helped much since I didn't know your issue in the first place ;P That was all akik .
[08:46] <lerner> reisio, my bet would be yes, what iw windows doinf there? but I dont know...
[08:46] <reisio> betting is not involved in problems
[08:46] <reisio> a problem is a problem because it's unavoidable
[08:46] <reisio> what you have is not a problem, it's an unwarranted concern
[08:49] <geirha> There's no limit on a single environment variable alone, but the total length of environment variables (envp) and arguments (argv) are limited to the system specific limit ARG_MAX (getconf ARG_MAX)
[08:50] <geirha> So if /etc/environment doesn't allow 5000 chars for an environment, that's a limitation in the pam_env module
[08:51] <Tex_Nick> geirha: good point man !
[09:14] <lifernux> hola peña
[09:20] <Anas> sup people?
[09:23] <BlenderPro> agent_white, hi
[09:24] <BlenderPro> agent_white, can I see app armor on the manual pages
[09:31] <Guest10967> 这个怎么玩
[09:32] <BlenderPro> I can see funny chraracters
[09:33] <BlenderPro> look like houses symbols
[09:34] <neredsenvy> Ok I removed my native locales and than ran locale-gen en_US.UTF-8 than dpkg-reconfigure locales
[09:35] <neredsenvy> Rebooted
[09:35] <neredsenvy> however now I can't open the terminal
[09:37] <neredsenvy> I can still open UxTerm run locale and I get LANG=, LANGUAGE=, LC_ALL=, LC_COLLATE="POSIX", LC_MESSAGES="POSIX" everything else is en_US.UTF-8
[09:48] <numnum> how do i use commands from the bash?
[09:48] <somsip> !manual | numnum
[09:48] <somsip> !bash | numnum (maybe this one)
[09:49] <numnum> i feel schooled
[09:49] <numnum> xD
[09:50] <xubun2> hi
[09:52] <lerner> I have installed 2 kernel ppa's and none of them works... is there any active upstream kernel ppa?
[09:52] <crydal> Hey Guys
[09:52] <somsip> !mainline | lerner
[09:53] <lerner> somsip, so that would be : no ppa?
[09:53] <somsip> lerner: you can search for one if you want - see !ppa
[09:54] <OerHeks> lerner, did you read that page? i see kernel-ppa .. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=N;O=D
[09:57] <lerner> OerHeks, tha includes the letters ppa, but I cannot add it with sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/mainline, it is also not on launchpad
[09:58] <OerHeks> yeah, it is a manual thing .. and at your own risk.
[09:59] <lerner> launchpad guys want me to test the bug with the newest kernel...
[10:00] <k1l> then manually install the mainline .deb packages as instructed
[10:04] <blinkyb_> Hi, i just installed 16.04 but the Unity launcher is not good, my pc still runs 14.04, is there anyway I can get the Lucid Lynx look on 16.04?
[10:04] <popey> blinkyb_: Ubuntu MATE
[10:04] <blinkyb_> i installed gnome3 and it almost looks like Unity
[10:04] <popey> blinkyb_: it has the older contemporary look and feel
[10:05] <blinkyb_> popey: MATE? i'll check
[10:07] <Cablegunmaster> Question: how to rdp in a pi , without a remote able port? ( landlord being pain in the ass)
[10:08] <Ben64> ssh tunnel, vpn, google chrome remote desktop, getting your own internet
[10:09] <OerHeks> grinn .. without any dedicated port to that pi ?
[10:10] <blinkyb_> popey: thats an entire os not a theme right?
[10:11] <k1l> blinkyb_: mate is a desktop enviroment. and its included in ubuntu for 16.04
[10:33] <cperrin88> Hey. I can't install wineone ubuntu 16.04 because libwrap:i386 coflicts with libtotem-plparser18:amd64 on the file /usr/share/man/man5/hosts_access.5.gz
[10:33] <mnffy> Hey!
[10:34] <cperrin88> should I report that as a bug and can someone suggest a woraround?
[10:34] <k1l> cperrin88: try "sudo apt-get install -f"
[10:35] <cperrin88> k1l: that doesn't help
[10:35] <mnffy> Don't panic! You should do it!
[10:35] <cperrin88> I get the same error
[10:36] <mnffy> What error
[10:36] <k1l> cperrin88: can you put everything into paste.ubuntu.com and show the url here?
[10:37] <cperrin88> k1l: What do you mena with "everything"?
[10:38] <k1l> cperrin88: all the terminal output
[10:39] <cperrin88> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17140635/
[10:39] <cperrin88> k1l: I didn't have te full log. This is the summary
[10:40] <Guest44474>   wasdad
[10:40] <Guest44474> sadasd
[10:41] <k1l> cperrin88: "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" run that in terminal and show the output url please. that will show us what ppas are on your system
[10:43] <OerHeks> libtotem-plparser18:amd64 3.10.6-1ubuntu1 = Yakety yak ??? and libwrap0_7.6.q-25_i386.deb is trusty ???
[10:43] <cperrin88> http://termbin.com/x274
[10:46] <OerHeks> .. and some opensuse repo > /emby-server.list:deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/emby/xUbuntu_15.10/
[10:47] <cperrin88> OerHeks: Yes I know but the packages are both form teh ubuntu repos
[10:47] <cperrin88> *from the
[10:47] <ikonia> pretty much every bleeding edge unstable repo possible
[10:48] <k1l> cperrin88: i dont see where the "libwrap0_7.6.q-25_i386.deb" is from. is it from an PPA or manuall loaded .deb file?
[10:49] <k1l> cperrin88: reason is: we can force to let libwrap0_7.6.q-25_i386.deb overwrite the file that is owned by another pakcage. but if that is a 3rd party file overwriting a official ubuntu package that might have sideeffects.
[10:49] <OerHeks> apt-cache policy libwrap0_7.6.q-25_i386.deb
[10:49] <cperrin88> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17140813/
[10:50] <k1l> hmm
[10:51] <cperrin88> ikonia: Yes I do use many bleeding edge repos but I think i know what I'm doing.
[10:51] <ikonia> cperrin88: clearly not
[10:51] <ikonia> as your in here asking how to resolve a conflict
[10:51] <cperrin88> ikonia: a conflict between two ubuntu packages
[10:51] <k1l> cperrin88: "sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libwrap0_7.6.q-25_i386.deb"
[10:51] <k1l> cperrin88: after that "sudo apt-get install -f"
[10:52] <k1l> this will force the install of that package
[10:52] <tobares> from what I read this will be resolved in the future by these "snaps" ?
[10:53] <k1l> tobares: snaps are alreaady installable. they use a different setup with depencies, yed.
[10:53] <k1l> *yes
[10:53] <cperrin88> k1l: Yes that worked
[10:53] <cperrin88> Thanks
[10:53] <ubuntu674> Hi
[10:53] <cperrin88> But still. Is that a bug I should repost?
[10:53] <cperrin88> *report
[10:54] <ubuntu674> I had deleted ubuntu because had take a system problems and now my windows doesnt work to
[10:54] <k1l> cperrin88: i guess something forces 32bit packages to install that are not meant to be installed.
[10:54] <JunkHunk> hello I have a problem here with usb 3.0. I am using a gigabyte 970A-DS3P mobo and when I enable usb3.0 in bios config neither usb 2.0 nor 3.0 work. I need to disable usb3.0 to get usb working
[10:54] <Ben64> ubuntu674: join ##windows for help with getting windows working
[10:55] <OerHeks> ubuntu674, boot your windows dvd and choose repair?
[10:55] <andybrine> My apologies for asking here but does anyone know if there is an Android Development IRC?
[10:56] <ikonia> andybrine: ask in #freenode how to search freenode
[10:56] <ikonia> !alis > andybrine
[10:56] <andybrine> Ok thanks ikonia
[10:58] <rootkea> Hello! How do I save command output as image? I tried `convert` as mentioned on http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/9104/save-command-output-to-image but it creates an image containing `@-`
[10:58] <rootkea> BTW $ convert --version
[10:59] <rootkea> Version: ImageMagick 6.8.9-9 Q16 x86_64 2016-06-01 http://www.imagemagick.org
[11:02] <rootkea> Hello! How do I save command output as image? I tried `convert` as mentioned on http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/9104/save-command-output-to-image but it creates an image containing `@-`
[11:02] <leeyaa> hi
[11:03] <rootkea> Hello!
[11:03] <leeyaa> what is the current recommended size for /var/cache/apt on ubuntu server ?
[11:03] <leeyaa> considering upgrades
[11:03] <leeyaa> biggest package i have is mysql-server
[11:05] <rootkea> I am not aware of any such recommenation about apt cache size
[11:05] <rootkea> *recommendation
[11:05] <leeyaa> rootkea: i tend to use 1GB for /, so i need to put /var/cache/apt on a separate partition
[11:05] <leeyaa> so how much would i need during upgrade from ubuntu 14.04 LTS to ubuntu 16.04 LTS ?
[11:06] <leeyaa> roughly
[11:06] <rootkea> Given that iso size is about 800 MB I would say 1GB would be good
[11:07] <leeyaa> i see
[11:07] <mgor> leeyaa, there are some recommendations here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace
[11:08] <leeyaa> mgor: those are for desktops
[11:08] <leeyaa> 15GB for Ubuntu is crazy
[11:08] <leeyaa> rootkea: sounds reasonable
[11:08] <rootkea> leeya: But again if you decide to install extra packages then you'll need extra space
[11:08] <mgor> leeyaa, it does not mention desktop anywhere?
[11:09] <rootkea> You can `apt-get clean` periodically to use the scarce storage.
[11:09] <leeyaa> rootkea: yes, but i already know my footpring
[11:09] <leeyaa> footprint*
[11:09] <leeyaa> 1GB for / is more than enough for me
[11:10] <leeyaa> mgor: doesnt need to mention it, 15GB is a crazy disk recommendation for server
[11:11] <k1l> 15Gb is fine for / on regular desktop with seperated /home
[11:11] <leeyaa> yeah, thats why i said this article is for deskop
[11:11] <leeyaa> desktop*
[11:11] <rootkea> Leeya: `apt-get autoclean`, `apt-get autoremove` and `apt-get clean` are your friends!
[11:11] <k1l> on server it depends heavily on the partition setup and used services and its configs.
[11:12] <leeyaa> rootkea: yes, im just trying to plan how big would /var/cache/apt go during upgrade
[11:12] <leeyaa> 1GB sounds about right
[11:12] <guest261> hello
[11:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:12] <k1l> leeyaa: that depends on the installed packages of course. but i would say the size of the iso + a bit. 1GB sounds worth a try.
[11:14] <leeyaa> k1l: yeah sounds reasonable
[11:16] <rootkea> How do I save command output as image? I tried `convert` as mentioned on http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/9104/save-command-output-to-image but it creates an image containing `@-`
[11:19] <stark> hello
[11:21] <rootkea> In case if someone is wondering I can't take a screenshot of the command output as the output generated is more than screenfull and I'm unaware of any open source tool which takes the screenshot of scrolled window
[11:22] <auronandace|work> rootkea: why do you need the output as an image?
[11:24] <rootkea> auronandace|work: I want that image to be displayed, sent, posted on my blog etc. I mean does it really matter?
[11:25] <auronandace|work> rootkea: i thought maybe you weren't aware of pastebins
[11:26] <rootkea> auronandace|work: Oh! No. I'm aware of pastebins very well.
[11:26] <HoloIRCUser3> hello
[11:27] <DJones> rootkea: What command is you want to copy the output of
[11:29] <rootkea> DJones: Again it can be `ifconfig` or any other utility or our own program for that matter. :)
[11:29] <Nur> hello everyone
[11:30] <DJones> rootkea: This doesn;t give an image, but does give pastebin website link "ifconfig | nc termbin.com 9999" don't know if that helps
[11:31] <Nur> i don t know how to install reactos, anyone help me learn this
[11:32] <auronandace|work> Nur: they can help you in #reactos
[11:32] <YankDownUnder> Nur, Strange question to ask here...
[11:32] <Nur> ok thanks vlad,
[11:32] <Nur> sorry yank
[11:33] <YankDownUnder> Nur, Nothing to be sorry for, bro...was kinda funny, really...
[11:33] <k1l> rootkea: convert label:"$(df -h)" result.png
[11:34] <k1l> rootkea: gives an error but works
[11:38] <joakimk> I have a dual boot set up, Win10 and Ubuntu. I need to re-install Windows, but how do I make sure I don't touch the Linux partition?
[11:39] <rootkea> k1l: Thanks! It works! But it doesn't preserve the terminal colors (e.g. ls colors) How do I get the colored output of `ls` in an image?
[11:39] <joakimk> The Windows installer, under advanced/custom install, shows me the available partitions: Drive 0 has 4 partitions. 1) System (500MB), 2) Primary (279GB), 3) Logical (159 GB) and 4) Logical (8GB)
[11:39] <joakimk> what do I do, which do I choose? Is that easy to say? :)
[11:40] <joakimk> I mean, I want to format the windows partitions?
[11:40] <k1l> rootkea: look into the man from convert. it got stuff for coloring the text and background. you might want to ask the imagemagic guys if convert can make use of tha bash coloring
[11:49] <YankDownUnder> joakimk, Have you like, ya know, written down what partition was what - just asking...however, that being said, if you boot to a liveUSB/CD/DVD, you can run "gparted" and kinda figure out which drives/partitions are what...
[11:49] <scrabcakes> can anyone help with a chromebook/xubuntu problem I'm having?
[11:50] <joakimk> YankDownUnder: well, the win installer only let me select one of the partitions (system), it was the only one NTFS formatted
[11:50] <joakimk> so, I guess that'll be the one then
[11:50] <joakimk> but no, I did not write such info down ;)
[11:50] <joakimk> point taken
[11:51] <lundmar> hi, I've just created a snap of a tool which includes a bash completion script. However, when installed using snap the bash completion is not activated?
[11:52] <YankDownUnder> joakimk, Should be right, bro...either which, next time, best to write things down...can't trust "the brain"...especially when bits get frustrating...hmm...
[11:53] <Guest98202> i am trying to make a select bash menu to 1) change dirctory of the terminal then let me use the terminal as normal in the directory 2)open telnet and let me use it/ i ahve searched teh web and tehre is no obvious answer. pls help
[11:53] <joakimk> YankDownUnder: thanks :)
[11:54] <YankDownUnder> Guest98202, http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_09_06.html
[11:55] <hateball> rootkea: fwiw, the command in your link works just fine for me
[11:55] <VladimirVolkov> л
[11:59] <JackJackson> Hey, I have downloaded some icons and put them in /usr/share/icons however I cannot seem to activate the icons in the Tweak Tool?
[11:59] <JackJackson> oh, now it works, oddd...
[12:01] <YankDownUnder> JackJackson, Sometimes it takes a moment or two to "refresh" disk data in menus and dialogues...
[12:02] <lundmar> tio snap: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/5169
[12:02] <lundmar> now, how to get the bash completion script working ... seems the ubuntu devs need to fix sourcing snap installed completion scripts..
[12:03] <rootkea> hateball: Really? How? I mean why it's not working as expected on my end?
[12:04] <computer> anyone understand bash shell scripting well, i need some help and i cannot get the answers i need through searching
[12:06] <k1l> computer: #bash is helpfull
[12:07] <computer> thanks k1l
[12:07] <akik> rootkea: i get @- too in the png image
[12:09] <ciaran_> Hi all
[12:12] <rootkea> akik: Yes! And nearly 79 people on command,linefu have upvoted that solution!
[12:12] <gg10> Hello people. I have a video which has a scrolling marquee bar along the bottom. Is there any open source application that I could use to cut the marquee section out of the movie ?? Like change the aspect ratio of the movie or something ??
[12:13] <akik> rootkea: even that graphicsmagick solution does the same
[12:13] <rootkea> k1l: I read the whole manpage of `convert` but couldn't find the clue. Can you please help why the command mentioned on commandlinefu http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/9104/save-command-output-to-image  is not getting executed as expected?
[12:13] <rootkea> Heck even 79 people have upvoted it!
[12:14] <k1l> akik: which shell do you use?
[12:14] <akik> k1l: bash
[12:15] <akik> k1l: the command does not give an error but just produces a png image with @-
[12:16] <k1l> akik: yes, that is the issue.
[12:17] <k1l> akik: it should produce a picture with the terminal output in it (not @-) says the internet.
[12:17] <lerner> on shutting my laptop it freezes at: "stopped NFS Mount Daemon"
[12:17] <lerner> and it stays like that
[12:18] <Kromag> guys I have created a 32 gb partition by shrinking my windows partition and am trying to install ubuntu desktop on there
[12:18] <Kromag> and it's now complaining after selecting that partition to install to
[12:18] <Kromag> about swap space
[12:18] <Kromag> how do I go about doing this
[12:20] <YankDownUnder> Kromag, Assuming that you've not allowed it to do the "automatic" partitioning, are you using the "guided" partitioning?
[12:21] <YankDownUnder> Kromag, Something to consider - create a swap partition that is probably equal to your RAM...unless you've got more than 8gb of RAM...
[12:21] <Kromag> I never said I was using guided anything
[12:21] <Kromag> I don't even know what that is
[12:21] <Kromag> I slected other
[12:22] <Kromag> and i have windows also installed on this hard drive as I mentioned
[12:22] <YankDownUnder> Kromag, Give this a quick read, bro:
[12:22] <YankDownUnder> Kromag, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[12:22] <Kromag> I have 8 gb of ram
[12:23] <Kromag> this is my first time setting this up too
[12:23] <Kromag> I am not interested in ruining my windows installation which is why I am asking here
[12:24] <Kromag> and someone in raspberrypi channel was saying to go without swap space
[12:24] <YankDownUnder> Kromag, If you're not "deep" into the installation - like, if you haven't actually created the partitions, you might want to do a bit of reading up on it beforehand - and also, using the "Guided" partitioning is probably the better bet...
[12:24] <Kromag> I just told you how far i was into the installation
[12:24] <YankDownUnder> Kromag, Research, bro.
[12:24] <Kromag> YankDownUnder you're going on ignore bro i'm not your bro
[12:24] <Kromag> kid
[12:25] <PositiveCreep> You could choose to use a little less space for your / partition and use that for swap.
[12:25] <Kromag> your very rude YankDownUnder
[12:25] <Kromag> have a good day perm ignore
[12:25] <YankDownUnder> Nevermind...
[12:25] <Kromag> I am not healthy enough to deal with taht sort of stuff
[12:25] <Kromag> I'm sitting here getting chemo
[12:25] <BluesKaj> Kromag, so you chose "something else" which is manual partitioning , a wise choice as long as you're familair with partitioning
[12:25] <PositiveCreep> Kromag: and if you don't want to research anything or try stuff out. This might not be for you...
[12:25] <Kromag> good bye
[12:26] <Kromag> you guys are useless to me
[12:26] <PositiveCreep> Bye,
[12:26] <BluesKaj> another satisfied customer :-)
[12:26] <PositiveCreep> Well that was one big wtf -.-
[12:27] <YankDownUnder> I shan't bother with folks that DON'T bother...
[12:27] <gg10> Lol that guy was totally mad like...
[12:27] <BluesKaj> some users are intimidated by the manual partitioniong options, but it is safer if you know how.
[12:28] <gg10> Always guided for me always guided :-)
[12:29] <gg10> Can anyone help me with my video prooblem I have ??
[12:29] <YankDownUnder> gg10, Close your eyes. :)
[12:29] <cgomez_ext> hey motherfuckers!
[12:29] <gg10> haha very funny lol.
[12:29] <YankDownUnder> gg10, What's the issue?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> I prefrer manual , but I usually prepartition with gparted ahead of time so the target partitions are all ready to go when i install the OS
[12:30] <cgomez_ext> :(
[12:30] <YankDownUnder> BluesKaj, That's the smarter way to accomplish that task...
[12:30] <cgomez_ext> sorry huys wrong chat
[12:30] <YankDownUnder> cgomez_ext, De nada.
[12:30] <gg10> I have a video which has a scrolling marquee bar along the bottom. Is there any open source application that I could use to cut the marquee section out of the movie ?? Like change the aspect ratio of the movie or something ??
[12:31] <YankDownUnder> gg10, Have you taken a look at "Avidemux"?
[12:31] <BluesKaj> YankDownUnder, it's a little more work , but I have the time :-)
[12:31] <YankDownUnder> gg10, https://sourceforge.net/projects/avidemux/
[12:32] <gg10> No I have not taken a look at that. I will go do that now thanks :-) Google was not my friend when searching this problem lol. Thank you very much for the link :-)
[12:32] <YankDownUnder> BluesKaj, I'm so old school that I can't fathom "Automatic" or "guided" partitioning on drives...didn't have that "way back when"
[12:32] <YankDownUnder> gg10, Coolbeans
[12:32] <BluesKaj> YankDownUnder, yup
[12:33] <gg10> Straight from clicking on that link I think you've linked me to what I'm looking for :-) Thanks very much :-)
[12:33] <YankDownUnder> gg10, Heaps of video editors - just gotta find the one that works the best for ya...
[12:35] <Tex_Nick> gg10: ffmpeg, which was for a while deprecated by Canonical & replaced by avconv, will do tha and much more ... a useful gui utility that would do that is "WinFFMPEG"
[12:35] <gg10> Yea that's totally true. I did search google prior to logging on here but couldn't find the correct search term to use or something cos I was getting nothing useful lol
[12:35] <YankDownUnder> gg10, http://lives-video.com/ => That's a really "hard core" full-blown vid edit suite...
[12:37] <HoloIRCUser> Thanks for those links and suggestions guys :-)
[12:38] <HoloIRCUser> I'm in work at the moment, but saved them for looking at once I get home to my laptop :-)
[12:43] <fritzroy15> hello, can someone suggest a service I can install that writes a good chunk of output into logs on ubuntu? I need to do a tutorial of how to debug something analizing its /var/log files
[12:45] <fritzroy15> hello, can someone suggest a service I can install that writes a good chunk of output into logs on ubuntu? I need to do a tutorial of how to debug something analizing its /var/log files. something from the official repos would do nicely
[12:45] <YankDownUnder> fritzroy15, https://www.loggly.com/ultimate-guide/analyzing-linux-logs/
[12:45] <fritzroy15> YankDownUnder no no, I need to do an interactive session with my colleagues at work and not sure what to start up so we can tail -f some logs
[12:45] <Bronze> Hi I'm getting an error when i try to run " apt-get -f install " The error lines are: "Err http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/main libc-dev-bin amd64 2.13-38+deb7u10" followed by "  404  Not Found [IP: 128.101.240.215 80]"    Does this mean wheezy is no longer being updated?  (been getting this for weeks)  (That IP is pingable and a debian server is running there)
[12:46] <YankDownUnder> fritzroy15, Sorry, my bad...my misinterpretation...
[12:46] <lyze> fritzroy15, i'd just go with apache or whatever and restart it to show them ^^
[12:46] <Bronze> <bloody Yanks.. Wait - I'm a Yank.... >
[12:46] <YankDownUnder> Bronze, Kernel 2.13? Mmmm...
[12:46] <Bronze> Outdated?
[12:46] <fritzroy15> lyze that's actually not a bad idea thanks : )
[12:46] <YankDownUnder> Bronze, Slightly...
[12:47] <Bronze> Well carp.
[12:47] <mcphail> Bronze: this is ubuntu support, not debian
[12:47] <lyze> fritzroy15, for a error case: just make the http.conf invalid and restart it so that the inside the logs is the error dispalyed
[12:47] <BluesKaj> an understatement
[12:47] <Bronze> i hate upgrading. It plays hob with operations.
[12:48] <YankDownUnder> Bronze, That's why you get paid the big bucks!
[12:48] <fritzroy15> lyze thanks for the help, i'm surprised I hadn't thought of it myself after working with the damn thing for 2 years :)
[12:48] <Bronze> YankDownUnder: I wish! :-)
[12:48] <lyze> fritzroy15, no problem! have fun ;)
[12:49] <lyze> fritzroy15, i mean you could also use the syslogs c;
[12:49] <YankDownUnder> Bronze, Every time I'm faced with a situation - kinda like the one you're in now, I create a new "box" and match all the "apps" it's got, then, when I'm sure it's solidified, swap the data over...then again, I have physical means by which to do so...
[12:50] <Bronze> Is there any tool that collects your installed packages in order to reproduce what you have added to a system after a new install?
[12:50] <YankDownUnder> Bronze, There's a number of "profilers" to use...
[12:51] <Bronze> YankDownUnder: is there specific keyword to googlefor them, or is profiles that keyword?
[12:51] <Bronze> *profilers
[12:51] <YankDownUnder> Bronze, Hang on a tick, bro...
[12:51] <Bronze> gracias
[12:51] <joelio> dpkg --get-selectons > file
[12:52] <YankDownUnder> Bronze, https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/hardinfo/
[12:52] <Bronze> Danke!
[12:52] <joelio> dpkg -l > installed_list
[12:52] <joelio> etc etc
[12:52] <YankDownUnder> Bronze, And ditto with what joello pointed out...
[12:52] <joelio> can then use dpkg --set-selection < file
[12:53] <Bronze> joelio: Vielen Danke!
[12:53] <joelio> n/p
[12:53] <YankDownUnder> Just takes time to make sure all the ducks are in a row...
[12:53] <Bronze> I see I have more man page studying to do. :-)
[12:53] <Bronze> Rats, My ducks are all anarchists
[12:53] <YankDownUnder> Study is good. Research is good. Writing things down (or printing them out) is good.
[12:53]  * joelio wrote a meta-backup system useing that method as his first admin job years ago :)
[12:54] <YankDownUnder> Bronze, Mine, too...hence I had to move them to a different geo-magnetic location...
[12:54] <joelio> obviously get your /etc/ stuff too if needed
[12:54] <joelio> there are alos tools like devstructure
[12:54] <joelio> that will output a shell script or puppet/chef for use elsewhere
[12:54] <joelio> https://github.com/devstructure/blueprint
[12:55] <Bronze> YankDownUnder: In 1983, i reproduced the entire set of BSD manuals for my OS development group to that every programmer has a complete hardcopy.  It took 8 full size pallets, stacked to six feet high to ship them... and the manual set for Linux today is easily forty times larger than that now
[12:55] <Bronze>  /to/so/
[12:57] <YankDownUnder> Bronze, Heheheheheheh...love it..."Kill them thar trees!" - all for naught when folks don't know how to read hard-copies anymore... :)
[12:59] <LTCD> Hi. Using a program which came preinstalled (called Disks I think) I was able to make an image of a memory stick. When I right click on the image I get given an MD5 hash. How can I get the MD5 hash of the USB drive so I can be sure I have imaged it correctly?
[13:01] <joelio> LTCD: md5sum {thing}
[13:02] <Bronze> YankDownUnder: Its just like holding a tablet, but you need two hands...
[13:04] <YankDownUnder> Bronze, PMSL...my girlie's kids freak out when they see me reading an actual "book"...(one, a six year old, thinks I'm bonkers)
[13:04] <LTCD> joelio How do I do it to a USB drive?
[13:04] <joelio> well, I use cli, so I can only offer you this
[13:04] <joelio> lsblk
[13:05] <joelio> see which is the usb drive (ie. /dev/sdb
[13:05] <joelio> md5sum /dev/sdb
[13:05] <Bronze> YankDownUnder: show them a rotary dial phone, or a vinyl LP record...:-)
[13:05] <Bronze> or an 8 MM film projector
[13:06] <EriC^^> LTCD: do both disks have the same size? cause the md5sum will differ
[13:06] <LTCD> Bronze Video casette tape.
[13:06] <YankDownUnder> Bronze, None of them know "life without Facebook". Ergo, pointless operation.
[13:06] <Bronze> LTCD  Like what my wedding is on? :-)
[13:06] <ikonia> perhaps enough offtopic chatter guys ?
[13:06] <Bronze> I think Facebook is one of the biggest traps in existence
[13:06] <ikonia> there is #ubuntu-offtopic if you to chat
[13:06] <LTCD> EriC^^ joelio  One is an image file, the other is the USB memory stick from which I made an image. Will md5sum still work?
[13:07] <Bronze> ikonia: sorry
[13:07] <ikonia> not a problem
[13:07] <EriC^^> LTCD: yeah
[13:07] <tim241> anyone? is it possible to build ubuntu touch with only 22 GB free?
[13:07] <joelio> if you create a parition and dd the image into it, at the same size, it'll be the same md5sum. If you're blindly copying, then ut will differ
[13:07] <LTCD> EriC^^ So it's good computer forensics if you're caught short?
[13:08] <k1l> tim241: better ask in #ubuntu-touch for experience with that
[13:08] <EriC^^> LTCD: caught short of what?
[13:08] <LTCD> EriC^^ Without a proper OS designed for forensics, like if all I had was an Ubuntu live CD which I had to use to carefully image a suspect's USB memory stick?
[13:09] <EriC^^> LTCD: yeah you can use dd to make an image of it, i wouldn't rely much on "Disks"
[13:09] <EriC^^> LTCD: gddrescue would be one of the best choices
[13:10] <joelio> pv ftw ;)
[13:10] <EriC^^> especially if the memory stick has problems or is failing
[13:17] <erebel55> anyone know how to include the password in a rsync call instead of having it prompt you
[13:17] <rbasak> erebel55: see the manpage. Set RSYNC_PASSWORD or use --password-file. Assuming it is rsync's prompt and not ssh.
[13:18] <erebel55> ahh it probably is ssh's prompt
[13:21] <joelio> erebel55: use keys!
[13:22] <joelio> erebel55: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-copy-files-with-rsync-over-ssh
[13:22] <PositiveCreep> Might as well go for SSH keys indeed. :-)
[13:24] <erebel55> I am rsyncing from windows using cygwin to ubuntu. The password it asks for is my ubuntu user's password
[13:26] <joelio> I'd just use keys, with a passphrase, personallu
[13:28] <erebel55> either way I'm going to have to enter something
[13:29] <erebel55> I am automating this. So essentially it's a windows bat file that calls rsync. So I will need to handle whatever user input there
[13:29] <tim241> is it possible to port cm on my network drive from 2 terabyte?
[13:30] <joelio> erebel55: if you used keys, you won't have to enter anything - unless you add a passphrase - even then it's cached for an abitrart amount of time
[13:30] <joelio> that's how I automate ssh
[13:30] <joelio> for backups etc
[13:30] <joelio> I add passphrases to ssh keys that are more personal
[13:30] <joelio> for automated actions passphraseless keys are fine (imho)
[13:31] <meygahmann> hello?
[13:32] <joelio> is it me you're looking for?
[13:32] <meygahmann> hi everyone, just installed linux =)
[13:32] <mjayk> Haya all I need help fixing my vpn problem, just installed 16.04 and it fails because the "vpn service stopped" it is a pptp vpn and worked in 15.04
[13:33] <meygahmann> anyone use ubuntu mate?
[13:33] <joelio> mjayk: I'm betting that's a systemd thing
[13:33] <joelio> but tbh, no diagnisostics, so shrug
[13:33] <winston2k> hello, try #ubuntu-mate
[13:34] <mjayk> joelio: any idea as to where to start, are you saying i need to do something like systemctl start pptpetcetc
[13:34] <meygahmann> thanks winston
[13:34] <joelio> mjayk: yea, what does the status of the service say
[13:34] <joelio> systemctl thing.service status
[13:34] <joelio> will show you, I think, dunno not use pptp for years (it's not very secure at all(
[13:35] <mjayk> joelio: im not sure as to the service name, sadly I work for the government and I dont get to choose what they use
[13:35] <joelio> lol
[13:35] <joelio> mjayk: are you using network-manager
[13:35] <joelio> or another pptp client?
[13:35] <mjayk> joelio: yes network-manager whats built into ubuntu i think
[13:36] <joelio> mjayk: well, depends, server installs aren't - desktops generally do though
[13:36] <joelio> would assume a desktop
[13:36] <mjayk> yea sorry this is a client / desktop install
[13:37] <joelio> ok, so what do you get in logs when you try and start the vpn via network manager
[13:37] <joelio> or does it not even shiw?
[13:37] <joelio> *show
[13:39] <mjayk> http://pastebin.com/005hTJc0 joelio does that help sorry not very exped
[13:42] <joelio> mjayk: Jun  9 14:38:50 mjayk-IdeaPad-U430-Touch pppd[10115]: EAP: unknown authentication type 26; Naking
[13:43] <joelio> I'm guessing the security protcols have changed between 15.04 and 16.04
[13:43] <joelio> so maybe you need to define the specific protocols to use in the vpn config
[13:43] <mjayk> grumble grumble kk thanks I shall have a gander at that
[13:43] <tim241> why did you guys remove su?
[13:43] <tim241> I dont understand because I can really use it now
[13:43] <joelio> ?
[13:43] <joelio> sudo su -
[13:43] <joelio> done
[13:44] <k1l> joelio: dont use that
[13:44] <LTCD> EriC^^ Thanks, sorr slow reply.
[13:44] <tim241> hmm
[13:44] <joelio> k1l: why?
[13:44] <joelio> I know doing stuff via sudo means it's trackerd, logged, but why specifically?
[13:44] <k1l> joelio: got sideeffects bevause of wrong enviroment variables.
[13:44] <joelio> so pass
[13:44] <joelio> sudo -E su -
[13:44] <k1l> no no no
[13:44] <joelio> -E will pass env vars
[13:45] <tim241> hmm
[13:45] <k1l> if you want a root-shell use "sudo -i"
[13:45] <tim241> ok thx
[13:45] <joelio> well, I've never had an issue, that's for sure :)
[13:45] <k1l> yes, just because you didnt experience one so far doesnt mean there is another correct way to do it.
[13:46] <tim241> thanks k1l
[13:46] <joelio> it's the way I've been doing it since I've used ubuntu, who knew
[13:46] <joelio> never had an issue, personally
[13:47] <cooldharma06> how to remove pF files in dpkg status
[13:47] <cooldharma06> apt-get --purge remove failing
[13:48]  * joelio failing to see what env vars are an issue
[13:48] <joelio> in fact, it looks pretty much the same :)
[13:49] <cooldharma06> http://pastebin.com/qjkhrG2K
[13:49] <k1l> cooldharma06: can you show what exact packages and files you mean?
[13:49] <cooldharma06> plz check the above link..
[13:49] <k1l> cooldharma06: first run a "sudo apt-get install -f"
[13:50] <yangjh> hi
[13:50] <cooldharma06> k1l same error for this command also
[13:52] <cooldharma06> please refer this link for error: http://pastebin.com/pSEiddcC
[13:53] <k1l> do you know why its failing?
[13:55] <k1l> cooldharma06: dpkg --configure -D 777 nova-common
[13:55] <k1l> that will show what is going wrong
[13:56] <cooldharma06> k1l some files with nova-common misconfigured
[13:56] <akik> joelio: the issue is that people don't use the - with sudo su
[13:56] <erebel55> is there anyway to copy all contents of file to clipboard without gui? xclip and xsel are failing me
[13:58] <erebel55> they give me "can't open display" errors
[13:58] <akik> erebel55: if you don't run xorg, you can install gpm for the virtual console use
[13:59] <akik> erebel55: i don't know which copy buffer you're trying to use
[13:59] <erebel55> I'm just trying to copy text from one file to another. Really simple
[13:59] <cooldharma06> k1l any suggestion actually its my friend pc
[13:59] <k1l> erebel55: why gui then?
[14:00] <k1l> cooldharma06: <k1l> cooldharma06: dpkg --configure -D 777 nova-common
[14:00] <joelio> akik: well, I do - and I was told that was wrong, for some reason, that I'm not sure aboout
[14:00] <erebel55> I said without gui?
[14:00] <akik> joelio: ok, you do it right :)
[14:00] <k1l> cooldharma06: i mean one could just plain get the hammer and force remove it but one better could fix waht is wrong
[14:01] <joelio> akik: I know I do, hence wondering wtf I was being told "no no no" for :D
[14:01] <k1l> erebel55: you can read the text and pipe it or > it to another file
[14:01] <cooldharma06> k1l: http://pastebin.com/8nWrBEmf
[14:01] <Pinkamena_D> I put a specific entry into me /etc/hosts and for some reason over the past week it has keps vanishing (just the one entry) I have tried many different names for the 'name' part, but it was always the same IP. I can not figure out the exact trigger. Does anyone have any idea what might cause this?
[14:01]  * joelio gets on with preseed wrangling
[14:02] <k1l> joelio: the ubuntu way is not to use sudo su. which you adviced. which will not grant all enviroment variables. sudo -i is the way to go.
[14:02] <joelio> no, the question was
[14:02] <joelio> where is su
[14:02] <joelio> not what's the best way to su
[14:03] <joelio> anyway, not worth worrying about :)
[14:04] <joelio> k1l: just take a look and see what's missing - if you use sudo su - and sudo -i (very little, and tbh, for most contexts, not applicable)
[14:04] <akik> the correct command is "sudo su -". if you drop the - you'll get problems
[14:04] <akik> that command grants you a root shell
[14:05] <maid> hi
[14:05] <erebel55> akik, gpm is nice, thank you for that
[14:05] <maid> does ubuntu have onboard encryption
[14:05] <joelio> akik: yep, it has done for the past 10 years for me at least :D
[14:05] <ciaran_> I have an exernal harddrive that I was using with windows 10 and it won't work, is there anything I'm missing?
[14:05] <maid> i mean when i install an live usb stick ubuntu can i choose an onboot encryption in the setup
[14:05] <cooldharma06> k1l any suggestions
[14:05] <joelio> maid: it has full root encrtpyion that you can do at install time
[14:06] <joelio> or you can use encryptfs for home dir enc
[14:06] <maid> ok so on install i can choose full usb encryption
[14:06] <akik> then you can extend the command to change to some other user "sudo su - someother"
[14:07] <maid> so it asks me on boot for the password?
[14:07] <joelio> maid: the defaults for full disk using dm-crypt are AES-256 loopbacks afair, so pretty damn good
[14:07] <joelio> maid: yea, you can do that
[14:07] <maid> joelio is it more secure than veracrypt
[14:07] <maid> or equal
[14:07] <erebel55> hmm I setup the ssh key and it's still prompting me for password when I ssh
[14:08] <erebel55> http://i.imgur.com/mGpGCRR.png
[14:08] <cscf> erebel55, did you put a password on the key?
[14:08] <cscf> erebel55, you did ssh-keygen, then ssh-copy-id?
[14:09] <ubuntu_help> Hey guys,  Quick question using Ubuntu I am having a problems working with iptables I need to delete a few lines that have duplicated
[14:09] <cooldharma06> k1l: resolved my friend wrote some configuration in nova.conf so its not removing i removed and rerun that file
[14:09] <erebel55> no I made it passwordless
[14:09] <erebel55> ssh-keygen -f ~/.ssh/id_rsa -q -P ""
[14:09] <cooldharma06> now its got removed
[14:09] <erebel55> cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
[14:09] <k1l> cooldharma06: sorry, was afk. ah ok. you could have forced the remove with "dpkg -r" too
[14:10] <cscf> erebel55, ok, so you generated the key, did you copy it to the server, with ssh-copy-id or otherwise?
[14:10] <maid> joelio?
[14:10] <erebel55> I copied the contents of the pub to authorized_keys
[14:10] <erebel55> after doing this http://pastebin.com/YiZFePY5
[14:11] <cooldharma06> k1l: no issue anyway thanks by that configure 777 command i got to know this
[14:12] <glass> i there a channel for hper V?
[14:12] <glass> hyper
[14:12] <croepha> trying to get into grub menu on 16.04, having trouble, i tried holding both shifts, that didn't work, any suggestions?
[14:13] <erebel55> cscf, ssh-copy-id would have saved me some time tho. I rsynced the pub and then download gpm to copy and paste the contents lol
[14:13] <joelio> maid: sorry, busy, never heard of veracrypt. dm-crypt a standard linux thing..
[14:14] <joelio> croepha: press escape
[14:14] <joelio> then edit, then crtl-f10 or something
[14:14] <erebel55> cscf, yep, that did it. thanks!
[14:16] <ubuntu_help> Hey guys,  Quick question using Ubuntu I am having a problems working with iptables I need to delete a few lines that have been duplicated
[14:17] <Jordan_U> croepha: For UEFI you need to spam escape instead.
[14:17] <cscf> joelio, veracrypt is just a truecrypt fork, FYI
[14:18] <maid>  how i set perstistence mode with an usb stick, can i do it easy in the setup or do i need tweaks like on kali
[14:18] <joelio> cscf: oh, ok - only ever needed to use dm-crypt - I suppose with that fork you can use on $OTHER_OS
[14:18] <croepha> Jordan_U, joelio: Thanks Escape did it
[14:19] <cscf> joelio, dm-crypt / LUKS is the obvious choice on Linux.  But {true,vera}crypt are the only good options I know of that are multi-platform - all 3, actually.
[14:19] <joelio> aye
[14:19] <maid> cscf is dmcrypt / luks equal to vera,true?
[14:21] <cscf> maid, ?  LUKS translates between a ciphered block device and a plaintext block device.  IIRC Truecrypt translated a ciphered block device into a plaintext filesystem
[14:21] <joelio> maid: analogous, yes.. if you need to use on multiple OS's though, you may find vera better as cscf mentioned
[14:21] <joelio> as afaik there's no dm-crypt support in osx/windows
[14:21] <cscf> There is not
[14:22] <cscf> maid, what do you need to encrypt, and do you need to use it on multiple OS's?
[14:24]  * joelio wonders why
[14:24] <joelio> d-i partman/early_command string debconf-set partman-auto/disk "$(list-devices disk | head -n1)"
[14:24] <joelio> is not being used in preseed
[14:24] <joelio> hrmmmmmmm
[14:25] <joelio> damn blade chassis and different smart arrays == /dev/sda and /dev/cciss/c0d0
[14:25] <joelio> I want to use one preseed to rule them all :)
[14:25] <cscf>  /dev/cciss/c0d0  ? :O
[14:25] <joelio> HP smart array 200
[14:25] <joelio> bag of crap :D
[14:25] <tyler_d> I'm having a chroot problem, I have a script htat does the majority of this, but upon ssh login I get "/bin/sh: Not a directory"
[14:25] <cscf> joelio, does the preseed syntax actually allow bash commands like that?
[14:26] <tyler_d> the logs indicate: http://pastebin.com/EjafzvK6
[14:26] <joelio> cscf: that example is from the advanced debian installer guide... !!!
[14:26] <cscf> Oh ok
[14:26] <joelio> so, umm, I think it should :D
[14:26] <cscf> I haven't worked with preseed
[14:26] <joelio> tyler_d: how are you chrooting
[14:27] <joelio> chroot [place} /bin/sh ?
[14:27] <cscf> joelio, are you sure that list-devices still exists on Ubuntu 16?
[14:27] <tyler_d> joelio: through sshd
[14:27] <joelio> this is trusty
[14:27] <joelio> tyler_d: not follwing, you're sshing into a chrooted ssh jail?
[14:27] <joelio> cscf: I think it does to tbh, but not checked
[14:28] <joelio> it's part of the debian-installer generally
[14:28] <joelio> will check actually, for shits and giggles
[14:28] <joelio> otherwise going to have to explicitly set the PXE config to use specific preseeds
[14:28] <joelio> which is really shitty
[14:28] <tyler_d> joelio I'm setting a script so that a newly added user is by default chrooted
[14:28] <joelio> tyler_d: why not use a jail shell ?
[14:29] <tyler_d> joelio wouldl that simply be chroot <<user>> <<dir>> or is there more to it?
[14:29] <cscf> tyler_d, sounds to me like you're calling chroot with the arguments reversed - trying to chroot into /bin/sh, rather than executing /bin/sh in the chroot dir
[14:30] <joelio> tyler_d: paste the command you're using
[14:30] <joelio> btw you can get restricted shells
[14:30] <joelio> no needs to mess to much with chroot
[14:30] <maid> hmm im watching and reading some stuff, is it true that ubuntu includes spyware?
[14:30] <joelio> so if you need to ssh in and only allow certain commands, restriced shell is what you want
[14:30] <tyler_d> joelio i'm not invoking chroot directly, its litterally through the sshd_config
[14:30] <joelio> we use it for ssh jump hosts
[14:30] <tyler_d> ChrootDirectory /home/%u/
[14:31] <maid> please some experience user tell me
[14:31] <joelio> maid: no
[14:31] <maid> are you sure? i watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP8CNp-vksc
[14:31] <joelio> yes
[14:31] <cscf> maid, by default, the Dash sends your searches to Canonical.  You can turn it off with a setting, and that's that.
[14:32] <tyler_d> maid: yes I'm sure
[14:32] <maid> hmm what richard stallman says scares me
[14:33] <joelio> there used to be some Amazon thing that was included too... I wouldn't call it spyware, personally, just something that was trying to make Canonical some extra cash, if albeit a little short sighted
[14:33] <tyler_d> joelio if you wouldn't mind, what commands are needed to directly chroot or invoke chroot for that user?
[14:33] <tgm4883> cscf: it doesn't even do that by default anymore either I don't believe
[14:34] <maid> sorry but i dont want that an company knows everything i search for
[14:34] <joelio> tyler_d: dunno, I'd use rssh and a chroot to lock them down
[14:34] <joelio> google about :D
[14:34] <cscf> maid, so turn it off
[14:34] <joelio> maid: how do they know it's 'You' - it's just a hash to 'Them'
[14:34] <tyler_d> joelio so you don't know directly the error regarding sh
[14:34] <joelio> no, sorry mate
[14:34] <joelio> not used it that way
[14:34] <joelio> only via rssh
[14:34] <cscf> maid, Settings > Security and Privacy > Search > Online Off
[14:34] <tgm4883> maid: cscf in 16.04 they are disabled by default
[14:35] <tgm4883> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[14:35] <maid> its just wrong that they dont ask and you have to disable it
[14:35] <maid> what if i dont saw this video it was lucky
[14:35] <cscf> tgm4883, excellent
[14:35] <maid> so i wouldnt know it sends information to a company or what?
[14:35] <tgm4883> maid: it's already disabled by default
[14:35] <maid> strange
[14:35]  * tgm4883 thinks maid is intentially ignoring me
[14:35] <joelio> :)
[14:36] <cscf> maid, yes, it was quite a controversy at the time.  But as tgm has said, it's over now.
[14:36] <joelio> also, I use gnome generally in ubuntu so le shrug ;)
[14:36] <maid> okay
[14:37] <joelio> tyler_d: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-restricting-ssh-user-session-to-a-directory-chrooted-jail/
[14:37] <joelio> tyler_d: I'm guessing you need to symlink/copy some stuff etc
[14:38] <cscf> I would seriously consider an LXD container if you just want people to be able to ssh into a Linux box without access to your system
[14:38] <cscf> It's better isolation and it's easier to set up.
[14:38] <joelio> yea, more the merrier
[14:38] <joelio> it is effectively a chroot mind, and a namespace, and some cgroups etc etc
[14:38] <joelio> but it's bloody easy!
[14:39]  * joelio likes lxc/lxd lots
[14:39] <cscf> It's great
[14:40] <twn39> hello
[14:41] <cscf> twn39, welcome
[14:46] <TsakNorris> can someone help me please. What exactly happens when you press ctrl + alt + F1. Linux is entering not GUI environment, yes...but how it works? why it sends signal to external display also? I mean very good that it does that. Because now i can use xandr to clone my external display to be like my primary. My primary screen is toasted xD.
[14:47] <joelio> TsakNorris: that's something called a tty - you have several of these attached to a linux box generally
[14:48] <joelio> try crtl - alt - f7
[14:48] <joelio> basically the X windows (gui) is just running on top of this stuff
[14:49] <TsakNorris> joelio: i have already made my external to be my new primary. i just wanted to read more about it. Maybe there is good link somewhere about TTY:s?
[14:49] <joelio> yea, google good - https://askubuntu.com/questions/66195/what-is-a-tty-and-how-do-i-access-a-tty
[14:49] <joelio> or https://askubuntu.com/questions/481906/what-does-tty-stand-for etc
[14:50] <lifebird64> I'm on 14.04LTS. When I use the 'Software Updater' or '$ update-manager', I am not offered any 16.04LTS upgrade unless I use the -d option (development release). Isn't 16.04LTS officially a production release now!? If so, shouldn't I be offered the upgrade without specifying any options/flags? I'm a bit confused
[14:51] <joelio> lifebird64: maybe LTS releases don't offer until a point release or two
[14:51] <joelio> iron out bugs
[14:52] <lifebird64> 'point' release ?
[14:52] <alberto_80> Hello everyone
[14:52] <joelio> lifebird64: 16.04.1 for example .1 being the point release
[14:52] <lifebird64> ah.
[14:52] <lifebird64> thanks
[14:52] <joelio> hence why a -d works, as it's still treated as development
[14:53] <joelio> dunno :D
[14:53] <k1l_> !ltsupgrade | lifebird64
[14:53] <lifebird64> that would all makes sense. mostly just wanted to make sure that it wasn't something I was doing wrong
[14:53] <joelio> ah good, the guessing works still
[14:54] <alberto_80> I'm trying to make Flight Gear flight simulator work on Ubuntu 16.04, but I think I set too little Swap space, because my computer has 2GB RAM and Flight Gear freezes every time I run the simulator.
[14:54] <lifebird64> ubottu = bot or human? If human... "thanks!" if a bot... "0x7468616E6B73"
[14:54] <joelio> alberto_80: swap space not a fun thing
[14:54] <joelio> add more ram if you can, it's cheap
[14:54]  * joelio tends to set vm.swappiness to 0
[14:55] <lifebird64> k1l_: thanks for the bot invoke. now I know! :)
[14:56] <alberto_80> joelio Thank you, but older versions of Flight Gear used to work fine with my 2GB RAM, I don't understand why the latest version doesn't run...
[14:56] <cscf> alberto_80, the best option would of course be more RAM, but you might be able to save a few 100MB with zram
[14:57] <alberto_80> My graphics card is an Intel GMA X4500
[14:57] <cscf> alberto_80, newer versions of games/sims almost always use more resources
[14:57] <cscf> If a game starts swapping heavily, more swap may keep it from crashing, but it won't be playable
[14:58] <alberto_80> cscf I tried to install an older Flight Gear version from www.playdeb.net, but it always installs the latest version.
[14:58] <alberto_80> I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
[14:59] <k1l_> alberto_80: swap is very very slow, since hdds are very very slow compared to the speed of todays ram. its like old 56k internet vs broadband today. so get more ram if you want a fluid system.
[14:59] <alberto_80> Thank you
[14:59] <cscf> alberto_80, you can specify a version to apt, if you really need to.  But really just get more RAM.   4GB is the minimum nowadays, even on Linux.
[15:00] <k1l_> alberto_80: you could look out for stopping other programs that use ram, like browsers etc.
[15:00] <joelio> or use lxde or something :)
[15:00] <alberto_80> joelio I'm using mate :)
[15:00] <nacc> alberto_80: i think you asked this earlier this week. What is the exact command you are trying to use to install the older version? (pastebin)
[15:01] <joelio> alberto_80: well that's probably quite memory heavy
[15:01] <alberto_80> nacc Ok, give me a minute, please. :)
[15:01] <k1l_> alberto_80: see http://wiki.flightgear.org/Hardware_recommendations  At least 2-4 Gb free RAM (and more is better: when building/buying a new system, consider 6-8gb total the absolute minimum these days). FlightGear uses more than 500 Mb of RAM by default. If less free RAM is available, FlightGear would be slowed down significantly due to OS swapping.
[15:02] <HackerII> especially with 64 bit
[15:02] <k1l_> so there is no surprise its slowing down.
[15:02] <joelio> yea, 2GB pretty low now, my phone has pretty much that
[15:02] <cscf> my phone has 3GB
[15:02] <cscf> Not that I need that on a phone
[15:02] <samm> k1l_’s whore mother spreads her legs during Ramadan, and imagines the piggy prophet Muhammad licking her smelly pu$$y  he fucks pigs like her :) k1l_ raped his own mother!!!
[15:02] <samm> :)k1l_’s whore mother spreads her legs during Ramadan, and imagines the piggy prophet Muhammad licking her smelly pu$$y  he fucks pigs like her :) k1l_ raped his own mother!!!
[15:02] <samm> ,,k1l_’s whore mother spreads her legs during Ramadan, and imagines the piggy prophet Muhammad licking her smelly pu$$y  he fucks pigs like her :) k1l_ raped his own mother!!!
[15:02] <cscf> !ops
[15:02] <samm> .k1l_’s whore mother spreads her legs during Ramadan, and imagines the piggy prophet Muhammad licking her smelly pu$$y  he fucks pigs like her :) k1l_ raped his own mother!!!
[15:02] <samm> .,k1l_’s whore mother spreads her legs during Ramadan, and imagines the piggy prophet Muhammad licking her smelly pu$$y  he fucks pigs like her :) k1l_ raped his own mother!!!
[15:02] <joelio> get fucked
[15:03] <joelio> anyway, yea, RAM, wonderful thing :)
[15:03] <cscf> k1l_, perhaps you should consider auto-banning by regex
[15:03] <enon> Does anyone know if on lubuntu 16.04 can a older version (0.7.6 for example) can be installed along with ver 8.4 standard ?
[15:03] <phunyguy> Please don't comment on the trolls, especially with vulgar language.
[15:03] <enon> of cegui sorry for omission
[15:03] <alberto_80> nacc I go to www.playdeb.net and search for Flight Gear (Ubuntu 12.04 version), then I click on "Install this now"
[15:04] <alberto_80> nacc Then a dialog box appears asking me how to open the deb package and I choose "Apt URL"
[15:06] <alberto_80> nacc But when I
[15:06] <alberto_80> nacc Sorry
[15:06] <joelio> just do it via command line? sudo dpkg -i {thing.deb}
[15:07] <joelio> and it that misses deps
[15:07] <joelio> sudo apt-get -f install
[15:07] <nacc> yeah, i think the 'apt url' seems odd (i don't know what that's being run from, but it seems like that might mean using the apt sources?)
[15:07] <joelio> aye, not sure what synaptic would do there
[15:07] <alberto_80> nacc That's right
[15:08] <alberto_80> joelio I'm going to try what you just told me
[15:08] <alberto_80> joelio Thank you
[15:08] <joelio> alberto_80: it's the command line way, the path to enightenment :D
[15:08] <nacc> heh
[15:09] <joelio> alberto_80: sometimes a .deb may requre dependencies
[15:09] <joelio> in that case, just run sudo apt-get -f install
[15:09] <ubuntu_help> hey guys i need to know is there something i need to do when i put an iptables command in to make it active?
[15:09] <joelio> and it'll install it all for you
[15:10] <joelio> ubuntu_help: raw iptables or via ufw/ferm or something
[15:10] <alberto_80> sudo dpkg -i flightgear_3.0.0-1-getdeb1_amd64.deb
[15:10] <joelio> alberto_80: yea, looks right
[15:10] <ubuntu_help> joelio raw iptables
[15:10] <alberto_80> Errors encountered while processiong: flightgear
[15:10] <alberto_80> processing, sorry.
[15:10] <nacc> alberto_80: can you pastebin the output?
[15:10] <joelio> nacc: +!
[15:10] <joelio> +1 rather
[15:10] <alberto_80> nacc Sure
[15:11] <nacc> alberto_80: more than likely, you now need to run `apt-get -f install`, as joelio said, but let's be sure
[15:11] <joelio> ubuntu_help: well just running an iptables command makes it live
[15:11] <joelio> theres no reloading
[15:11] <nacc> alberto_80: dpkg itself doesn't konw how to install 'other' packages (dependencies) on its own, that's what apt/apt-get/aptitude/etc help manage
[15:12] <kshenoy> I'm trying to install openconnect but I don't see an option to create a Cisco Anyconnect VPN connection in network manager. I've installed network-manager-openconnect and network-manager-openconnect-gnome. Anyone know what I'm missing?
[15:12] <joelio> ubuntu_help: you can iptables-{save,restore} if needs be - but just running iptables {command to run} is enough
[15:12] <alberto_80> http://pastebin.com/SqGPDrXk
[15:13] <alberto_80> it's in castilian spanish, though
[15:13] <nacc> alberto_80: yeah, try `apt-get -f install`
[15:13] <alberto_80> nacc ok :)
[15:13] <nacc> alberto_80: (sudo)
[15:13] <joelio> ubuntu_help: check it's take be doing an #sudo iptables -L -n -v
[15:13] <joelio> bad english there..
[15:14] <nacc> heh
[15:14] <joelio> ubuntu_help: check the command has been taken by doing an #sudo iptables -L -n -v
[15:14] <master_> hello
[15:14] <ubuntu_help> joelio so here is my issue i am trying to route through the box but im not getting the routing to work any ideas im doing iptables -t nat -a prerouting -i eth0 -p tcp -d "boxip" --dport 123 -j dnat --to "destination:port" does that look right
[15:15] <joelio> ubuntu_help: looks ok, to check
[15:15] <joelio> use iptables -L -v -n -t nat
[15:15] <alberto_80> nacc It installs the latest version: http://pastebin.com/R3m1hEYm
[15:15] <joelio> ubuntu_help: as you're suing a nat chain
[15:15] <joelio> *using
[15:15] <nacc> alberto_80: so we might need to purge the existing one out, first
[15:15] <nacc> alberto_80: so let's try this
[15:15] <nacc> alberto_80: `sudo apt-get purge flightgear`
[15:16] <alberto_80> nacc ok
[15:16] <ubuntu_help> joelio it is showing it in there
[15:16] <nacc> alberto_80: `sudo dpkg -i flightgear_3.0.0-1~getdeb1_amd64.deb`
[15:16] <joelio> ubuntu_help: so it's aliiiiive
[15:16] <nacc> alberto_80: `sudo apt-get -f install`
[15:16] <joelio> if it's valid, of course :D
[15:16] <ubuntu_help> joelio so any ideas why it aint working
[15:16] <nacc> actually, that might be the issue, anyways, alberto_80, i'm realizing
[15:17] <nacc> alberto_80: you might need to pin flightgear so it doesn't upgrade it via apt
[15:17] <joelio> nacc: yea, won't downgrade it
[15:17] <joelio> ubuntu_help: one mo
[15:17] <joelio> I'd do an apt-get clean too
[15:17] <joelio> make sure it's not in dpkg cache
[15:17] <nacc> joelio: good point
[15:17] <fsociety[00]dat> I am sometimes getting this error " http://ix.io/QFz " how can I fix? Please help :)
[15:17] <nacc> alberto_80: let me paste you the set of commands to do
[15:17] <alberto_80> nacc Ok, thank you very much.
[15:22] <joelio> ubuntu_help: I think you're missing --to-destination
[15:22] <nacc> alberto_80: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17145231/
[15:22] <nacc> alberto_80: what that basically is doing is saying you specifically want to keep flightgear at 3.0.0-1~getdeb1 regardless of what is in Ubuntu's archives
[15:22] <ubuntu_help> its --to-destination xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx not --to xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ?
[15:23] <alberto_80> nacc Thank you very much indeed.
[15:23] <alberto_80> nacc I'm going to try that
[15:23] <joelio> ubuntu_help: I think so.. similar to
[15:23] <joelio> sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 123 -j DNAT --to-destination "dest:port"
[15:23] <joelio> or something
[15:24] <nacc> alberto_80: if you want to read about it, there's also a notion of apt 'holds', (see `man apt-mark`) that can do something similar, via a different mechanism (the pinning policy is more flexible)
[15:24] <ubuntu_help> let me try that hold on
[15:24] <joelio> ubuntu_help: yea, I could be off the mark, but worth checking
[15:24] <joelio> also get out wireshark or tcpdump etc to check
[15:26] <john__> hi to all
[15:26] <ubuntu_help> joelio still no glory
[15:27] <john__> is there anyone on here tonight feeling generous enough to help me with my issue. I am in the middle of a newbie and tech with ubuntu
[15:27] <john__> I have learnt some stuff\
[15:27] <joelio> ubuntu_help: sorry, that's where my iptables stops today, need to get on with my work :D
[15:27] <john__> There is soooooo much to learn
[15:27] <joelio> ubuntu_help: good luck with it
[15:27] <joelio> john__: first rule of irc, don't ask to ask.... ask!
[15:28] <ubuntu_help> all good thanks for your help ++
[15:28] <joelio> np
[15:28] <john__> lol okay well i am learning
[15:28] <john__> i have this weird issue with my two internal hard drives, the issue does not affect my boot up drive
[15:28] <alberto_80> nacc It didn't work, it keeps installing this current year's version
[15:28] <Tex_Nick> john__: second irc rule is to be as specific as you can
[15:29] <nacc> alberto_80: can you pastebin `apt-cache policy flightgear` ?
[15:29] <john__> when I boot up into the desktop running 14.04 LTS and I open the file manager. Both my 1TB internal and 2TB do not auto mount. I must click on each drive name to mount them
[15:30] <john__> I have checked the mount settings in the gnome-disk-utility 3.10.0 and can not find the correct settings to fix this
[15:30] <joelio> john__: drive mounting on linux controllev via /etc/fstab - sometimes on desktops there are helpers
[15:30] <john__> i do not get this issue with my external USB 2TB
[15:30] <joelio> but /etc/fstab is always the way
[15:31] <alberto_80> nacc http://pastebin.com/3AiT1480
[15:31] <k1l_> johnif you want automount, but the into the /etc/fstab
[15:32] <john__> kil, I am sort of with you can you elaborate al little
[15:32] <john__> I get the hint you are talking about a command line
[15:33] <k1l_> john__: the fstab is a file where it tells the system on boot what to mount where. your system partitions are put in there. you can put your other partitions in there too, so they will be mounted at startup
[15:34] <john__> okay got it, now how do open the ect/fstab can open that in gedit
[15:34] <joelio> cscf: heh, preseed does work after all - I just was pushing the wrong branch in git... FML </noob>
[15:34] <kshenoy> Openconnect not showing up in network manager... Any suggestions?
[15:35] <cscf> joelio, lol
[15:35] <nacc> alberto_80: can you run the same steps again, but stop after adding the preferences file and running `apt-cache policy flightgear` at that point?
[15:35] <john__> k1l_: is the fstab file fstab.d or just fstab as I can not find just fstab?
[15:35] <nacc> alberto_80: (maybe an apt-get update first)
[15:36] <Tex_Nick> john__: sudo gedit or if you have gksu installed gksu gedit
[15:36] <alberto_80> nacc ok :)
[15:37] <k1l_> john__: its /etc/fstab
[15:39] <john__> k1l_: Yes got that cheers taking a look now
[15:39] <k1l_> !fstab | john__
[15:40] <alberto_80> nacc Same result here
[15:40] <alberto_80> :(
[15:40] <nacc> alberto_80: same policy output?
[15:41] <alberto_80> nacc Yes, unfortunately
[15:41] <nacc> alberto_80: can you pastebin `cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/flightgear` ?
[15:41] <tyler_d> what is the syntax to chroot an entire user? i've gone ahead and copied the entire contents of / over to where I want them jailed, but need the syntax?
[15:42] <alberto_80> nacc http://pastebin.com/ieuWTaim
[15:43] <nacc> alberto_80: syntax error, i think, no leading spaces (sorry, was trying to make clear what to put in the file in my paste)
[15:43] <kl23> Hi all, i read online i can NOT move window controls to right position (running Xenial). Could you please confirm ?  Thanks
[15:43] <moat_joe> Does everything in /etc/security/limits.d get read without needing an include limits.d/* in limits.conf ?
[15:43] <k1l_> kl23: yes. its hardcoded.
[15:43] <alberto_80> nacc Ok, sorry, I'll fix that.
[15:44] <kl23> k1l_: Thanks
[15:47] <john__> k1l_: is it possible while I am fixing the fstab file I could damage a partition
[15:47] <alberto_80> nacc Ok, I fixed it, but I get the same policy output when I type "apt-cache policy flightgear"
[15:48] <hdon> hi all :) ubuntu seems to like to do a lot of things its own way. are there specific tools ubuntu community prefers to use for manipulating LVM, MD, and the like? partprobe keeps telling us we need to reboot and i wonder if there isn't some common ubuntu thing that we're not playing nice with and we're stepping on each other's toes.
[15:48] <nacc> alberto_80: hrm, strange. Let's try one last thing. Go to the point of dpkg -i. Then run `apt-mark hold flightgear; apt-get -f install` ?
[15:48] <ikonia> hdon: what ubuntu only way are you talking about ?
[15:48] <alberto_80> nacc Ok
[15:49] <hdon> ikonia, i don't know, that's why i'm asking :)
[15:49] <ikonia> hdon: ubuntu uses mostly standard tools from across all distros, with only a few canonical ubuntu specific deviations
[15:49] <hdon> ah ok, thanks
[15:49] <hdon> any idea why partprobe keeps giving us this error?
[15:49] <john__> ubottu: is it possible while I am fixing the fstab file I could damage a partition
[15:49] <ikonia> what error ?
[15:49] <ikonia> john__: fstab is a file - how would it damage a partition ?
[15:50] <joelio> hdon: it may not be an error
[15:50] <john__> thanks ikonia
[15:50] <joelio> hdon: if you've changed the parition tables then sometimes you'll get that message..
[15:51] <joelio> if you're not doing anything, then that's something to investigate
[15:51] <alberto_80> nacc Flightgear set as retained.
[15:51] <hdon> well we're partitioning and stuff
[15:51] <joelio> so.... :)
[15:51] <hdon> but i'm unsure why partprobe(1) would tell us this
[15:51] <ikonia> partitioning and stuff....
[15:51] <ikonia> come on
[15:51] <ikonia> hdon: are you changing partitions on a disk that is in use in anyway ?
[15:52] <ikonia> and that includes being part of a raid device with metadata being maintained
[15:52] <alberto_80> nacc http://pastebin.com/eVMWsqGk
[15:52] <craigbass76> I've got 16.04, but can't seem to find ssvncviewer in the repos. Where'd she go?
[15:53] <hdon> ikonia, well if it were a normal file, i could use lsof to find if anything is using it, but i'm unsure what to do with partitions
[15:53] <tyler_d> ikonia how did you chroot jail your users? I'm not quite wrapping my head around that process for new users when they login
[15:53] <ikonia> tyler_d: I've not chroot jailed my users
[15:53] <joelio> hdon: "Everything is a file"
[15:53] <ikonia> hdon: what are you talking about ????
[15:53] <hdon> ikonia, would lsof and mount cover every possible case?
[15:53] <ikonia> lsof ????
[15:53] <ikonia> if you're looking at lsof it must be mounted
[15:54] <hdon> joelio, everything is a file, but lsof won't say if a kernel module has mounted a filesystem on a given partition, will it? i thought lsof only looked at userland processes
[15:54] <ikonia> kernel module mounted a file system ???
[15:54] <ikonia> hdon: is the disk you are trying to partition in use in any way, mounted, maintaining a raid meta data status
[15:54] <joelio> hdon: you're not making much sense tbh dude
[15:55] <ikonia> it's an easy question, with a yes/no respones
[15:55] <joelio> plus not sure what you're trying to do - in the grand scheme
[15:56] <nacc> alberto_80: ah sorry, the 'holds' wont' change the policy
[15:56] <nacc> craigbass76: ssvncviewer? no such package in ubuntu, afaict
[15:56] <joelio> nacc: yea, may need to pin - but I'd check there's not another source listetd in /etc/apt/sources.list{.d/thing.list}
[15:57] <nacc> craigbass76: you mean ssvnc?
[15:57] <joelio> nacc: although could be that the package installs the source repo lol
[15:57] <craigbass76> nacc, I just found it -- yes ssvnc. Any idea how to grab it without getting openjava?
[15:57]  * joelio not checked
[15:57] <craigbass76> It's on a box that has to use Sun's java
[15:57] <alberto_80> nacc It says it depends on libopenscenegraph80 among others... But these packages are no longer available in Ubuntu 16.04
[15:57] <yaxxino> Hi there , i have problem, it says " failed to start light display manager " when i boot , i get directly to the shell propmpt , what can i do ??
[15:58] <joelio> craigbass76: is it just a vnc client? just use reminna or somethng
[15:58] <joelio> java, yuk :D
[15:58] <joelio> it's not the greatest but - http://www.remmina.org/wp/
[15:58] <joelio> available in apt
[15:59] <nacc> alberto_80: ah, so that changed something, at least :)
[15:59] <craigbass76> joelio, It was the only one I could find that scaled. I'll try the other one
[15:59] <nacc> alberto_80: and means you can't use that package in 16.04 :/
[15:59] <nacc> alberto_80: not easily, at least
[15:59] <yaxxino> should i reinstall light display manager or start it manually ??
[15:59] <joelio> craigbass76: "Remote desktops with higher resolutions are scrollable/scalable in both window and fullscreen mode.
[15:59] <alberto_80> nacc Ok, I understand
[15:59] <john__> Is there a reason why my new 2TB 3.5" internal drive, that I installed today can NOT be formatted with a smaller than 2TB partition. There are no options to resize when creating a partition. In fact it does not even allow me to create a partition. It only allows me to format and forces me to use the entire size of the drive
[16:00] <yaxxino> ?
[16:00] <alberto_80> nacc Should I build FlightGear 3.0.0 from source, then?
[16:00] <joelio> alberto_80: I'd just get more ram dude and upgrade :D
[16:00] <nacc> alberto_80: i mean, it'll need the same deps, i presume
[16:01] <nacc> yaxxino: i don't understand why reinstall or start are the choices?
[16:01] <alberto_80> Ok, thank you very much for your help. :)
[16:01] <joelio> john__: you can partition a drive whatever size you want
[16:01] <joelio> try gparted
[16:01] <yaxxino> nacc ; so what can i do, am a noob sorry
[16:01] <nacc> john__: what doesn't let you change the paritions?
[16:02] <yaxxino> nacc; would upgrading fix the problem ?
[16:02] <yaxxino> ?
[16:02] <joelio> yaxxino: apt-get install lightdm --reinstall
[16:02] <nacc> yaxxino: i don't what the problem is, so it's hard for me to say
[16:03] <joelio> yaxxino: that'll give you lightdm installed
[16:03] <joelio> and will allow you to chose
[16:03] <joelio> of course, YMMV!
[16:03] <yaxxino> joelio ; chose what ??
[16:03] <Mrokii> Hello. I have a problem with Kubuntu, but I think it may be related to Ubuntu as well. I have installed Kubuntu 16.04 on a laptop and forgot the password. I tried to change it via grub and the root-console (which seemed to work) but now when I enter the password on the graphical login-screen, all buttons become greyed out and nothing else happens (besides the cursor becoming an X). And ideas what could have
[16:03] <Mrokii> gone wrong?
[16:04] <joelio> yaxxino: choose youre display manager and alos, if you have gdm, allow you to set gdm or lightdm to be the window login manager
[16:04] <joelio> man my grammar is bad today
[16:04] <Erige> Quick question. I echo my /sys/devices/platform/dell-laptop/leds/dell\:\:kbd_backlight/stop_timeout to be 10m which sticks until I reboot. On reboot its set back to 1m, any way to make this setting stick?
[16:06] <yaxxino> nacc: the problem is that it fails to start lightdm , when i boot up !
[16:06] <Erige> Mrokii: Did you have encryption or anything turned on?
[16:06] <john__> Can anyone help me with this issue  Is there a reason why my new 2TB 3.5" internal drive, that I installed today can NOT be formatted with a smaller than 2TB partition. There are no options to resize when creating a partition. In fact it does not even allow me to create a partition. It only allows me to format and forces me to use the entire size of the drive
[16:06] <ikonia> john__: how are you partitioning it ?
[16:07] <john__> ext4
[16:07] <john__> have no need for ntfs etc
[16:07] <Mrokii> Erige: I'm not sure, but I don't think so. I had just freshly installed Kubuntu on the lap.
[16:07] <ikonia> john__: no, I mean how are you actually trying to partition it ?
[16:07] <john__> only use ubuntu
[16:07] <enon> On to a different subject I 'm in the process of installing the recommened packages of the unbutu packaging guide. my question on a single user system is there any benifit to installing apt-file cache in system vs user areas?
[16:07] <yaxxino> nacc: i said how about upgrading, would that fix the issue ??
[16:07] <Erige> Morkii: If its a fresh install, maybe just reinstall to set new password?
[16:08] <ikonia> enon: I do'nt see why
[16:08] <john__> Oh sorry using the disk manager gnome-disk-utility 3.10.0
[16:08] <joelio> yaxxino: hence why I put the --reinstall line ;)
[16:08] <ikonia> john__: install and launch gparted
[16:08] <ikonia> john__: you'll get bet error output if there is a real problem
[16:08] <john__> okay
[16:08] <Mrokii> Erige: I am thinking about that, yes.
[16:08] <yaxxino> joelio , yes i will try it , i just want to make sure , cause i have to get out of irssi , to run the command ..
[16:09] <nacc> yaxxino: i don't know, it seems like joelio is helping
[16:09] <Erige> john_: gnome-disk-utility you have to set the size in MB when formatting try using gparted
[16:09] <enon> ikonia, I'm new to debian/ubuntu packaging being used to rpm on fedora so I don't know
[16:09] <yaxxino> yaxxino: i"ll try the command and get back to you , thanks!
[16:10] <yaxxino> joelio!
[16:10] <Erige> Morkii: That is what I would do, easier than trying to trying to fix it, since its a fresh install.
[16:11] <Mrokii> Erige: Probably, yes.
[16:11] <john__> ikonia: thanks installing gparted, i am trying to edit my fstab file to make my internal 1TB and 2TB auto mount. There is no reference to the two drives at all. I have never edited the fstab file before Can you help me with some simple questions
[16:11] <nacc> enon: well, one needs sudo to write and one doesn't
[16:12] <meh__> how could  i  disable sme characteristics of chromium "editing the rules file"?
[16:12] <meh__> https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium/blob/master/build_templates/debian/rules  this si what i need  "or update this rules file to the  quilt api"
[16:12] <Erige> john_: here is also a good referance https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[16:13] <john__> Erige: Yes I am reading that, Although I can not find out if between the text in the coloumns do I use a TAB or space?
[16:14] <nacc> meh__: are you building the package yourself?
[16:14] <enon> nacc, good point but I installed the packages with sudo and apt-file which was called by the install process installed to usr home directory on I missing something?
[16:15] <nacc> enon: not apt-file itself, but where the cache lives. to update the system cache you need to run `sudo apt-file update`. Otherwise it will update/create the per-user one (iirc)
[16:15] <enon> er am instead of on
[16:16] <Erige> john_: It doesnt matter, I usually space things out to line up with the other entries
[16:18] <enon> nacc, ok so I have to run apt-file purge as user then sudo apt-file update -thanks
[16:19] <nacc> enon: right, and reading the cache can be done w/o sudo, it's just updating it
[16:20] <hdon> ikonia, it's not mounted
[16:20] <hdon> joelio, sorry
[16:20] <ikonia> hdon: wasn't my full question
[16:20] <alxpa> How do I find the IP I use for local ssg
[16:20] <alxpa> Ssh
[16:20] <enon> nacc, I get -just peaved about the extr step but am glad I asked
[16:21] <alxpa> I typed ifconfig and lo and wlan0 are the two things that come up
[16:21] <john__> Erige cool thanks, First time I am trying to edit this file, did not know it even existed until tonight, can you help me with the Options
[16:22] <klorrn> I have s=big folders and i want to burn them in DVD , how can i do that in ubuntu ???
[16:22] <Erige> john_:  Sure I just came back from arch linux so fstab is pretty simple lol
[16:24] <klorrn> i have Xfburn but  it's very complicated , any help please ..
[16:24] <Erige> john_: Is it a standard hard drive?
[16:24] <john__> Erige: okay give me a minute I am still working it out, Want to see if I can get it right
[16:24] <Erige> john_: Sounds good
[16:25] <klorrn> is there a simper burning software instead of xfburn ??
[16:26] <Faresislam> hi
[16:26] <UserUS> klorrn: poweriso
[16:27] <klorrn> UserUS : can i burn whole directory , or i need to compress the files first ??
[16:28] <UserUS> klorrn: you can do a directory, even make an iso from it and build your own with it
[16:29] <john__> Erige: you still here I am ready now
[16:29] <Erige> john_; O am
[16:29] <Erige> john_: I am
[16:29] <john__> not sure about a few commands and the order of the options but will show what i have so far
[16:30] <joelio> klorrn: cdrecord, lol..
[16:30] <john__> # /dev/sdb	/mnt/sdb	ext4	auto,nosuid,user,exec,rw,async
[16:30] <john__> Erige: # /dev/sdb	/mnt/sdb	ext4	auto,nosuid,user,exec,rw,async
[16:31] <joelio> klorrn: it's called wodim or something now afair
[16:31] <john__> that includes the device and mount as I am not sure about those either
[16:31] <joelio> can't get simpler than that
[16:31] <joelio> john__: so have you tried to run #sudo mount -a ?
[16:32] <john__> joelio: No will that set the drive to auto mount everytime I boot
[16:32] <Erige> john_:  If you have the # That is  comment so that line would be ignored. Also I would recommend using the UUID becuase /dev/sdb can change upon boots
[16:33] <joelio> yea, what Erige said - you can get the UUID from #blkid
[16:33] <joelio> and anything set in /etc/fstab will mount (unless the specific mount has an option telling it not too, like _netdev for network devices.. sometimes you don't want to wait to mount them if you're offline etc)
[16:36] <john__> joelio or Erige: what should the dump column and pass column have?
[16:36] <dbz2k> I really dont how to fix this qt app error "Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x40807) with this library (version 0x40806)"
[16:37] <Erige> I would use 0 and 1
[16:38] <john__> Erige what is the suid/nosuid do, Not sure what to use?
[16:40] <Erige> john_: Those are for user ids I wouldnt use them
[16:41] <adminisnotadmin> what up
[16:41] <winston2k> hello
[16:41] <hdon> ikonia, when you ask about raid metadata, what do you mean? is that the data in the partition that MD uses to automatically assemble your RAIDs?
[16:42] <john__> Erige: Okay so far I have this let me know what you think
[16:43] <john__> /dev/sdb	/mnt/sdb	ext4	auto,nosuid,user,exec,rw,async,dev	0	1
[16:43] <john__> Erige: just about to get the UID in there
[16:45] <ducasse> john__: auto, exec, rw, async and dev are default on - you don't need to set them explicitly.
[16:46] <Erige> john_: I would replace all your options with default
[16:46] <Erige> lol
[16:46] <Erige> yeah that
[16:47] <john__> Erige: Huh? confused now, this is what i have so far: UUID=654eb5e5-fb9c-447d-a0ee-5cc7c0b53c36	/mnt/654eb5e5-fb9c-447d-a0ee-5cc7c0b53c36	ext4	auto,nosuid,user,exec,rw,async,dev	0	1
[16:47] <Erige> john_: also relatime, or noatime would be usefull. Is it a SSD?
[16:47] <john__> Normal HDD NOT a SSD
[16:48] <Erige> john_: you dont need the /mnt....... also replace your options with default,relatime
[16:48] <ducasse> john__: you don't need to mount at /mnt/654eb...etc, you can use whatever you want, like /storage
[16:49] <john__> Erige: okay give me minute to fix it up
[16:49] <JackJackson> Hello all. I am on Ubuntu gnome and I would like to know how I can completely remove mumble, this includes saved servers, certificates and so on.
[16:49] <Erige> ducasse: Thanks, thats a bit clearer than what i said
[16:50] <Erige> JackJackson: sudo apt-get purge mumble
[16:50] <JackJackson> I did that Erige, but it was still able to remember my previous cert and saved servers?
[16:50] <Erige> Do you have to login with an account?
[16:51] <john__> Erige: How is this now: UUID=654eb5e5-fb9c-447d-a0ee-5cc7c0b53c36	/mnt/2TBSEA-INT	ext4	default,relatime	0	1
[16:51] <Erige> john_: Looks perfect
[16:51] <JackJackson> Yes Erige I believe so
[16:51] <teward> JackJackson: look for something starting with a . in the folder name with 'mumble'.  Per-user configuration settings and data are stored in user accounts, so you would have to erasify that data folder
[16:51] <teward> it'd be in your home folder
[16:51] <john__> Awesome do I need to restart to test this?
[16:51] <Erige> That would be the best
[16:51] <JackJackson> the admin of the mumble server will remove my old account so I can make a new one
[16:52] <ducasse> john__: 'sudo mount -a'
[16:52] <JackJackson> teward: unable to find .mumble in home folder
[16:52] <john__> Erige: will the sudo gedit command allow me to make the change to fstab when I save my changes?
[16:52] <Erige> john_: I would get gksu
[16:52] <Erige> and use gksudo
[16:54] <john__> Erige: Huh, so the app to download is gksu and the command is gksudo? sounds really confusing
[16:55] <teward> JackJackson: it may be inside .config/ then with the name 'mumble', but I'm not going to hand-hold to find it.  Most things in the user space will store things there.
[16:56] <squinty> JackJackson,  if you are using a file manager, such as nautilus, to look for .mumble, make sure that "show hidden files" is turned on in the file manager.
[16:56] <Erige> yeah
[16:56] <Erige> sudo apt-get install gksu
[16:56] <JackJackson> Found it https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Client_Settings
[16:56] <Erige> You use gksudo for and graphical program that needs sudo rights
[16:57] <Erige> so gksudo gedit
[16:57] <Erige> but sudo nano since its command line based
[16:57] <john__> sudo nano?
[16:57] <john__> i thought sudo gedit was enough to write to the fstab file? Am I wrong?
[16:58] <john__> Erige : I thought sudo gedit was enough to write to the fstab file? Am I wrong?
[16:58] <squinty> nano = terminal text editor
[16:58] <tgm4883> john__: generally using sudo with graphical applications is a bad idea
[16:59] <Erige> john_: It can cause some issues, I just use sudo as terminal commands and gksudo for graphical programs
[16:59] <john__> Erige: okay got ya now i am get it thanks
[17:00] <Erige> john_: no problem
[17:00] <kshenoy> What's the difference between the i3 and i3-wm package?
[17:01] <ikonia> ones the window manager, ones the desktop
[17:01] <blinkyb> Hi. Please how can i change the background on the lock screen for Ubuntu MATE?
[17:02] <ioria> !info i3 | kshenoy
[17:03] <kshenoy> !info i3-wm
[17:03] <kshenoy> ioria: ikonia: Got it. Thanks
[17:03] <ioria> kshenoy, np
[17:04] <ioria> kshenoy,  for info about metapackage https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages
[17:08] <john__> Erige: How come on my 2TB internal it will only format to 1.82TB it is using 200GB for something not sure what?
[17:08] <Erige> john_: because in computer world 1024mb is a gig and in the retail world 1000mb is a gig
[17:09] <Erige> so take 1000X2000
[17:09] <Erige> devide it by 1024 = actual size
[17:09] <ekansh> Hello?
[17:09] <ioria> could be the lost+found , but 200 is a lot
[17:09] <JackJackson> Hey, another Mumble on Ubuntu question. When I want to add a server I don't see any password fields?
[17:10] <john__> Erige: lol I remember that now, Sorry. So just about ready to reboot will catch ya on the flip side  hope it all works, thanks for your help so far
[17:11] <kshenoy> I want to connect to VPN using network manager so I installed openconnect, network-manager-openconnect and network-manager-openconnect-gnome. However, I can't find the option to create a new Cisco Anyconnect VPN connection under Network Manager > Edit Connections > Add. What am I missing here?
[17:12] <ducasse> kshenoy: did you restart network manager?
[17:13] <kshenoy> ducasse: I restarted ubuntu itself. Is that  sufficient?
[17:14] <john__> Eriga: What partition table should I choose for this drive I am suing Gparted as the default disk manager from install would not allow me to specify the partition size?
[17:15] <ikonia> gpt for a big disk
[17:15] <ikonia> y
[17:15] <ikonia> oop
[17:16] <john__> ikonia: thanks, what about the Align to: MIB/cylinder/None?
[17:16] <ikonia> up to you
[17:17] <ikonia> you're not going to have a problem with that size of a disk
[17:17] <john__> ikonia: should i just take the default options without chnaging anything?
[17:17] <ikonia> unless you have reason to change something
[17:17] <john__> will just leave it then as I do not know what difference they make
[17:17] <ducasse> john__: most tools these days align automatically.
[17:21] <ubuntu293> How do I access my drives from ubuntu live_
[17:21] <baizon> ubuntu293: mount them
[17:21] <ubuntu293> how
[17:22] <ubuntu293> theres no option to mount them in gparted
[17:22] <compdoc> try the Disks util
[17:22] <baizon> ubuntu293: https://askubuntu.com/questions/177825/how-to-mount-an-external-hdd
[17:27] <ubuntu293> weird that it works all of a sudden.. anyway, when chosing guided installation, this happens http://i.imgur.com/sC6myV1.jpg?1
[17:27] <ubuntu293> why does it want sdd_
[17:27] <ubuntu293> I just want it to install on sdc
[17:29] <ubuntu293> Id much rather use the guided installation cause Ill probably fail with manual
[17:31] <k1l_> ubuntu293: dont install 15.04. that is already outdated. load a 15.10 or better 16.04 iso and install that from the start
[17:32] <ubuntu293> k1l_: why not just upgrade after instead of spending time having to find another disc to load the new one ont
[17:33] <zkop> was convinced to try ubuntu, but can't connect to wifi - keeps throwing me into an endless loop of "authentication required by wi-fi network"
[17:33] <zkop> pls
[17:33] <k1l_> ubuntu293: yes, that works, too. but i the days of usb-pendrives that should not be such an issue. since upgrading to 15.10 will take some time to load all updates.
[17:33] <reisio> zkop: type your password correctly
[17:34] <zkop> I did
[17:34] <ubuntu293> I dont have a usb, so ill it afterwards then, thanks anyway
[17:34] <posi> How does one disable core dumps in #ubuntu
[17:34] <ubuntu293> but right now I cant install it anyway, since it wants to use sdd as seen in my image, and I dont know why
[17:35] <k1l_> ubuntu293: it doesnt.it talks about scsi3 which is sdc
[17:35] <k1l_> but i dont know why it lists scsi5 (sdd) there.
[17:35] <ubuntu293> yeah thats what im wondering
[17:35] <ubuntu293> id rather not take any chances
[17:36] <ubuntu293> ill just install it manually then, what partitions do I need to make on a clean drive, the guids I followed havent worked
[17:37] <k1l_> 3 partitions: / ext4, /home ext4 and swap. i would say 15GB for /, swap = ram, rest for /home
[17:37] <odroid> hi
[17:39] <ubuntu293> k1l_: no boot or anything? also where are programs installed, is it in /home or /
[17:39] <reisio> /
[17:40] <k1l_> no, boot is not neccessary. and programs are installed on /, when they are installed through the ubuntu repos.
[17:40] <ubuntu293> so itll be just like my windows then, not being able to install anything cause quote C quote was only given so much memory
[17:41] <ubuntu293> is there a way to not have such a limit, as I only see it being annoying in the future
[17:41] <dax> if you don't want a separate /home partition, just make a / partition
[17:42] <k1l_> ubuntu293: you can just make / and swap if you like then.
[17:43] <k1l_> but 15Gb for a regular desktop install is quite plents. dont compare to the windows install sizes. ubuntu uses way less space for the system than windows.
[17:43] <ubuntu293> but I assume theres a reason to do it like you said isnt there? i know in windows its only an annoyance and doesnt make anything easier, but idk about ubuntu
[17:44]  * reisio only ever does / & swap
[17:44] <reisio> ubuntu293: some people think a separate /home makes reinstalls simpler
[17:44] <dax> people recommend separate /home so that reinstalls are easier. i don't bother and just restore from backups on reinstall
[17:44] <k1l_> yes. you seperate userdata from system. so in case of reinstall you can keep all userdata/configs. but i guess you just want / and swap then.
[17:44] <dax> because if you don't have good enough backups to do that, you should fix that problem.
[17:44] <reisio> ubuntu293: but it doesn't /really/
[17:45] <reisio> and reinstallation isn't something you should really be bothering with unless you change architecture
[17:45] <xangua> Or distro :-(
[17:45] <k1l_> but a full / is way less drastic as it is on windows.
[17:46] <ubuntu293> my windows C is 120gb and I install everything I can on other drives
[17:46] <reisio> yeah, all those shared deps
[17:46] <ubuntu293> Nor do I store anything on C
[17:46] <reisio> mmm
[17:46] <reisio> sounds like you just want / and swap
[17:46] <k1l_> ubuntu293: that is way different on ubuntu as i told already.
[17:46] <reisio> though as k1l_ says it is less of a concern
[17:46] <reisio> but there's also no issue using only / & swap
[17:46] <Guest60182> I know sound in linux was originally OSS that you could write to the dev's files like /dev/dsp. Then eventually  OSS got replaced with the ALSA sound architecture . My issue is what changes so that you cann't write directly to device files to play sound. I have seen the devices files are under /dev/snd/ folder
[17:46] <k1l_> make a cointoss :)
[17:47] <reisio> Guest60182: you can; /nick soundguy
[17:47] <ubuntu293> ext4 right
[17:47] <k1l_> Guest60182: its pulseaudio since some time now
[17:47] <SaintMoriarty> Hello, I am running out of space because of my /var/lib/mysql/ folder and wanted to see how i can mount it to my /bigstorage/mysql which is another drive.
[17:47] <SaintMoriarty> Can I get some direction please. I am not sure if I should be using mount bind or symlink ....
[17:48] <Guest60182> I have used /proc to analysis the different device files to know which /dev/pcmxxx are sinks and which are sources  so i know i got the correct device files to send things to i just get write option invalid or permission denid
[17:48] <reisio> SaintMoriarty: some other things you might do to reclaim space first
[17:48] <tgm4883> SaintMoriarty: if you don't get an answer here, you might try #ubuntu-server I would usually do a symlink, but I'm unsure if that would cause any issues with mysql
[17:49] <SaintMoriarty> reisio, what do you recommend?
[17:49] <ubuntu293> http://i.imgur.com/sC6myV1.jpg
[17:49] <Guest53256> hi
[17:49] <ubuntu293> This okay then_
[17:49] <Guest60182> This works for playing it in alsa cat /dev/urandom | padsp tee /dev/audio > /dev/null
[17:49] <SaintMoriarty> i ran du -h / | grep '[0-9\.]\+G' and my mysql folder is the significant one
[17:49] <reisio> https://wiki.debian.org/ReduceDebian
[17:49] <dax> sigh
[17:50] <Guest60182> but why do you have to go thru padsp to do it ?
[17:50] <dax> for anyone who doesn't already know, that librairc stuff is nonsense
[17:50] <duiker> why so?
[17:50] <ubuntu293> I.. think my image should be alright, but not gonna go on without someone double checking
[17:51] <Guest60182> OSS you could just open a file descriptor for you /dev/dsp ... and then just uses ioctl , read ,write to do anything you pretty much wanted
[17:52] <duiker> dax: why do you say its nonsense?
[17:52] <dax> duiker: because it's untrue
[17:52] <tgm4883> duiker: that's why^
[17:53] <nacc> heh
[17:53] <SaintMoriarty> tgm4883, is there a way to create the symlink and move all the current files/folders with same permissions?
[17:53] <ubuntu293> k1l_: http://i.imgur.com/sC6myV1.jpg?1
[17:53] <duiker> so they are not really merging?
[17:53] <tgm4883> SaintMoriarty: rsync
[17:53] <dax> duiker: that is what "untrue" implies, yes
[17:53] <Guest60182> I should beable to still get an alsa  device files file descriptor , and do an ioctl to tweak its settings
[17:53] <Guest60182> still
[17:53] <duiker> huh, and here I thought "untrue" implied "true" this whole time.
[17:53] <Guest60182> so whats holding the alsa settings from allowing one to write/read
[17:54] <rbasak> SaintMoriarty: I would use a bind mount. There are some known bugs around maintainer scripts and handling symlinks and direct mounts (where lost+found appears).
[17:54] <rbasak> I'm not aware of any failure cases if you use a bind mount.
[17:54] <dar123> i have a problem in ipv6 dns lookup, v4 works fine
[17:54] <rbasak> Assuming that it happens long before mysqld starts
[17:54] <k1l_> ubuntu293: i dont know the kubuntu installer and dont know why it lists to change the partition table of sdd there.
[17:56] <ubuntu293> k1l_: I just want you to tell me if I did the partitions correctly for installing on /sdc .)
[17:56] <Guest60182> I guess i want to understand the inner workings of how alsa is restricting access even at lower levels  then itself. Maybe the device files them selfs for alsa audio where changed to not provide writing / reading from without a vaild particular type of handle that has to be obtained from alsa ... don't know just guessing for the moment anybody know more
[17:56] <Guest60182> on this irc
[17:57] <ubuntu293> k1l_: sry I didnt realy it was the wrong image, here is what I meant http://i.imgur.com/TMb1Gcd.jpg?1
[17:57] <k1l_> ubuntu293: i dont see the size. i only see a swap and a ext4.
[17:57] <nacc> Guest60182: this seems like a better question for #linux or an alsa-specific channel
[17:58] <k1l_> ubuntu293: yes, looks right.
[17:58] <ubuntu293> and for bootloader, sdc or sdc1?
[17:58] <k1l_> Guest60182: you might want to ask the alsa guys then
[17:59] <Guest60182> so padsp i know what the pulse audio is kind of doing its redirecting the stuff to OSS devices but i don't see /dev/dsp so kind of don't get how its by passing alsa
[18:00] <ubuntu293> k1l_: should the bootloader be on sdc or sdc1?
[18:00] <Guest60182> where is the /dev/ for oss if your using pulseaudio?
[18:00] <Guest60182> won't they need to create dev/dsp
[18:00] <k1l_> ubuntu293: not in a partition. on the hdd. but the one that gets booted first.
[18:01] <ubuntu293> so just sdc then
[18:03] <erebel55> is there a daemonize package somewhere for ubuntu
[18:03] <nacc> erebel55: what would that package do?
[18:03] <erebel55> I'm trying to do this
[18:04] <erebel55> daemonize -E BUILD_ID=dontKillMe /path/to/your/command
[18:04] <nacc> erebel55: what is daemonize? it's a program you have used before?
[18:04] <Fuchs> screen, tmux or  & disown
[18:05] <erebel55> it runs a command as a daemon. there is probably a different way to do it on ubuntu
[18:05] <rbasak> There's start-stop-daemon. With systemd, there's systemd-run.
[18:05] <Guest60182> on a different not why does one have to by root to  echo to /dev/kmsg  to actually get it to appear in dmesg. Its not available for sudoer's seems weird how is that?
[18:05] <erebel55> I found it here https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/Spawning+processes+from+build
[18:05] <nacc> Guest60182: make sure you are using the echo binary not the shell built-in?
[18:06] <rbasak> Guest60182: if you're doing sudo echo ... > /dev/kmsg, that won't work as the > is done by your shell, not by sudo or the root's shell.
[18:06] <rbasak> You could probably do something like sudo -- sh -c 'echo ... > /proc/kmsg'
[18:06] <tgm4883> or use tee
[18:06] <Bray90820_mobile> So I'm having an issue with ubuntu 16.04 X86 live USB I have tried to boot it twice now the first time i saw the unity desktop flash then it went black the second time it was purple
[18:07] <tgm4883> eg "echo 'deb blah # blah' | sudo tee --append /etc/apt/sources.list"
[18:08] <Guest60182> ya thats my issue
[18:08] <Guest60182> thanks
[18:12] <nairwolf> When there is updated packages, it is possible to have information about what has been updated from apt ?
[18:13] <nairwolf> I would like to know if it's a bug fix or a security update, or whatever
[18:13] <nairwolf> Usually, I'm going to launchpad to see what's new on the package, what was the purpose of the last update. Is it possible directly from apt ?
[18:13] <k1l_> nairwolf: apt-get changelog package
[18:14] <nairwolf> ok, thank you k1l_ ;)
[18:24] <feneco> how to restart x on ubuntu 16?
[18:24] <jimmy55> is unetbootin the best way to go on xubuntu?
[18:25] <dax> no
[18:25] <reisio> feneco: sudo service lightdm restart
[18:25] <dax> unetbootin isn't the best way to go on anything
[18:25] <reisio> jimmy55: for what?
[18:25] <jimmy55> then what to use?
[18:25] <jimmy55> reisio, obviously a bootable usb drive
[18:25] <reisio> jimmy55: for installing xubuntu from?
[18:25] <OerHeks> feneco, sudo service lightdm restart
[18:25] <jimmy55> no
[18:25] <jimmy55> ubuntu
[18:25] <reisio> jimmy55: unetbootin should work fine
[18:26] <jimmy55> must I add their repos
[18:26] <feneco> OerHeks: is it supposed to close all programs?
[18:26] <tgm4883> feneco: yes, restarting X would close all programs
[18:26] <reisio> jimmy55: hrmm?
[18:26] <tgm4883> jimmy55: can you explain what your end goal is?
[18:26] <feneco> i tried service lightdm restart but it didn't work, so I tried service gdm restart
[18:26] <feneco> then it restarted
[18:26] <jimmy55> it says here I gotta add their repos https://unetbootin.github.io/linux_download.html
[18:27] <jimmy55> which I just did
[18:27] <feneco> is that because i'm using ubuntu-gnome?
[18:27] <tgm4883> feneco: what release are you on?
[18:27] <tgm4883> feneco: possibly
[18:27] <reisio> jimmy55: should be in 'universe': http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&suite=all&section=all&keywords=unetbootin
[18:27] <feneco> ok, thanks OerHeks  tgm4883 :)
[18:27] <jimmy55> well I just followed the instructions on that page I linked reisio and installed it
[18:27] <OerHeks> feneco, so you are not on ubuntu 16.04
[18:27] <jimmy55> is that okay?
[18:27] <OerHeks> ?
[18:27] <tgm4883> jimmy55: so you are on Xubuntu 16.04, and want to install Ubuntu 16.04 to the same machine?
[18:27] <reisio> jimmy55: probably fine, yes
[18:28] <reisio> jimmy55: I wouldn't recommend making a habit of such behavior, though
[18:28] <feneco> OerHeks: I am on ubuntu-gnome 16.04
[18:28] <reisio> jimmy55: best to check official repos first
[18:28] <jimmy55> I'm on xubuntu 14
[18:29] <reisio> jimmy55: that should be fine
[18:29] <jimmy55> sweet
[18:29] <jimmy55> I just did this to remove it; sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:gezakovacs/ppa
[18:29] <jimmy55> that is correct, right?
[18:30] <reisio> if it's removed, I s'pose so
[18:30] <compdoc> does gezakovacs show up if you run: sudo apt-get update
[18:31] <OerHeks> feneco, oke, proceed
[18:32] <h82or8> where do i find a list of amd graphics chipsets are are being tested (older) for future inclusion to the radeon driver (not a list of those already included)?
[18:32] <feneco> OerHeks: http://termbin.com/2dof
[18:32] <feneco> not sure how to get that I am on ubuntu gnome
[18:34] <feneco> is there a way to check which ubuntu version is running from terminal? if it's ubuntu-gnome, kubuntu, lubuntu, etc?
[18:34] <OerHeks> gnome uses gdm, ubuntu/unity lightdm
[18:35] <jimmy55> nop it didn't show up compdoc
[18:35] <BluesKaj> no sddm on ubuntu?
[18:35] <jimmy55> unetbootin takes care of the formating of the drive before setting it up, right?
[18:35] <Bashing-om> feneco: ' echo $DESKTOP_SESSION " " $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ' .
[18:36] <erebel55> anyone know why I'm getting "nohup: ignoring input and appending output to `nohup.out`"
[18:36] <erebel55> when I run
[18:36] <h82or8> feneco: inxi -S
[18:36] <erebel55> sudo nohup service omniwar start
[18:37] <dax> why are you putting nohup there
[18:37] <dax> things started with service are supposed to run daemonized anyway
[18:37] <erebel55> dax, I'm starting it via Jenkins
[18:37] <erebel55> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16667898/start-daemon-on-remote-server-via-jenkins-ssh-shell-script-exits-mysteriously
[18:39] <erebel55> dax, I'm trying to make the process persist after ssh disconnect
[18:39] <jimmy55> nvm got it
[18:39] <dax> i have zero jenkins experience, sorry
[18:39] <jimmy55> I'm trying it without formating
[18:39] <jimmy55> will that work
[18:40] <netameta> how can i search my entire folder for supervisord
[18:40] <erebel55> dax, it's not really that related to jenkins. Basically my jenkins calls a script that does some linux commands
[18:40] <erebel55> So it does a ssh to my server and then starts a server on it
[18:40] <erebel55> *service
[18:40] <erebel55> And I want the service to persist after the ssh is disconnected
[18:40] <bray9082_> So I am getting a black screen after selecting try ubuntu without installing with the live disc
[18:41] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | bray9082_
[18:42] <bray9082_> Thanks
[18:42] <feneco> h82or8: nothing by default?
[18:43] <Bashing-om> bray9082_: If after that ^, there are still problems; holler back at us . We are here to help .
[18:45] <enon> Alright sports fans, I'm am trying to build CEGUI from 14.04 sfrom source and install it on 16.06. I asked on #cegui and was told it would behave on 16.04 (version 0.76 along with version 0.8.4). I retriieved the orig source ,the debian.tar pkg and the dsc file fron packaqges.ubuntu.com I did a search for instructions but all I found is what to do with a new source compile not where to put the debian folderannd dsc file or how to use them any pointers?
[18:45] <radiance2> Hi! I upgraded my Ubuntu to 16.04 a couple of hours ago. Since I have a dual-boot machine I wanted to check whether or not my other OS still works. Unfortunately although I updated the GRUB still have issues with keyboard once I'd like to select the adjacent OS. In one word, can somebody help what I should do for having my keyboard control back in BIOS?
[18:45] <bray9082_> Bashing-om: Well I have tried "acpi_osi=" and "acpi=off"
[18:46] <ikonia> enon: read up on debian packaging
[18:46] <ikonia> enon: be aware though, especially with the dependencies it's not as simple as copying the desc file and rebuilding the package with a later tarball
[18:46] <rootbeto> exit
[18:49] <radiance2> hello?!
[18:49] <bray9082_> Bashing-om: I am not really sure if I am doing things right but I have tried three options "acpi_osi=" and "acpi=off" and acpi_osi="Linux" and they did not work
[18:50] <Bashing-om> bray9082_: Those are power management options .. Do not see a relationship there to graphics . This a laptop .. and with power issues ?
[18:50] <bray9082_> Sorry my bad no this is a desktop
[18:51] <enon> ikonia: I found a debian packaqging guide - upgrading from 14.04 broke cegui for a package I was working on
[18:51] <bray9082_> Bashing-om: disregard what I have done
[18:52] <Bashing-om> bray9082_: We work with you at your pace .. but heed advise given . Black screen is generally a graphic's issue .
[18:53] <bray9082_> Yes
[18:53] <radiance2> I'm new to these channel. Should wait for someone to help?
[18:54] <Bashing-om> !ask | radiovstv
[18:55] <radiovstv> what
[18:55] <Bashing-om> radiovstv: sorry .. bad hightlight .. the other poster left.. I did not verify the ping .
[19:02] <Erige> Anyone know how I can get echo 10m > /sys/devices/platform/dell-laptop/leds/dell\:\:kbd_backlight/stop_timout   to persist through boot
[19:03] <bray9082_> Bashing-om: I think were on the same page now and I think I have done nomodeset correctly and it's still not working
[19:03] <bray9082_> I also tried modeset=0 and that gave me a purple screen
[19:04] <ikonia> Erige: should be a kernel parameter for that
[19:04] <Erige> ikonia: how would i go about setting that up?
[19:04] <ikonia> Erige: get the parameter name and put it in /etc/sysctl.conf
[19:04] <ikonia> or offer it as a boot argument to the kernel
[19:05] <Erige> ikonia: thanks
[19:05] <Zythyr> Need help. Does anyone know how I can convert a SVG file to BMP file?
[19:05] <Bashing-om> bray9082_: K; show us in a pastebin, what we are working with - lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' - .
[19:06] <ikonia> Zythyr: open it in a graphics edit and export it ?
[19:06] <bray9082_> Bashing-om: Can't really pstebin anything if I can't boot
[19:06] <Zythyr> ikonia Is it possible to do it iwht command line? I tried inkscape but its not working
[19:07] <ikonia> Zythyr: do you know of a graphics convert that supports svg ? (inkscape ?)
[19:07] <ikonia> Zythyr: sorry imagemagik
[19:07] <Zythyr> ikonia Let me try imagemagic
[19:07] <blinkyb> is there any way I can change the Power icon on Ubuntu MATE?
[19:08] <mguy> blinkyb: what have you tried
[19:08] <ikonia> he's tried asking in here
[19:08] <Bashing-om> bray9082_: So, what can you boot to ? do you get as far as a grub boot menu - oler hardware is the shift key to make the menu appear .
[19:08] <momelod> greetings channel.
[19:08] <ikonia> blinkyb: do you reseaerch anything before asking ?
[19:08] <blinkyb> mguy: LightDM GTK+ doesnt seem to help, thats the only thing i tried
[19:09] <ikonia> lightDM ? thats a window manager
[19:09] <momelod> is anyone aware of a tool that would let me search through multiple files for a block and text and do a search/replace on that block?
[19:09] <ikonia> what did you do wiht lightdm to change it
[19:09] <ikonia> momelod: grep and sed
[19:09] <erebel55> shouldn't this start my FPSGame-Server-Linux-DebugGame service?
[19:09] <erebel55> http://i.imgur.com/dMSHnrw.png
[19:09] <blinkyb> ikonia: search the net but nothing's availeble
[19:09] <ikonia> blinkyb: did you read any of the mate documentation
[19:09] <erebel55> I am running sudo service omniwar start
[19:09] <shatnerz> Hey, any ideas why a display port monitor may not be detected. I'm using a dvi to displayPort adapter. I tested it in windows and it works. Im running ubuntu 14.04
[19:09] <ikonia> blinkyb: any of the mate theme documentation
[19:09] <erebel55> and nothing starts
[19:10] <momelod> ikonia: yeah, but im having a hard time with that cause the block im searching for is bigish and has lots of special chars that are throwing me off
[19:10] <bray9082_> Bashing-om: I am using the live cd 16.04 x86 and all i can get to is grub
[19:10] <erebel55> sudo service omniwar status shows that it is started. but I don't see it on ps aux
[19:10] <ikonia> momelod: put the block of text in a file and use it as a litteral input to grep
[19:10] <blinkyb> ikonia: no
[19:10] <ikonia> blinkyb: does that not strike you as something thats worth doing - reading the documentation about the product your asking about ?
[19:11] <blinkyb> ikonia: where is it
[19:11] <Bashing-om> bray9082_: And in this liveCD. booting to the menu . F6 gives you the option to employ "nomodeset"; what results ?
[19:11] <ikonia> blinkyb: what is the product called....
[19:13] <bray9082_> Bashing-om: I am hitting tab and entering nomodeset that way because non of the fuction keys bring up any menu
[19:14] <bray9082_> it says press tab to edit a menu entry
[19:14] <bray9082_> So i enter nomodeset and press enter and then it boots to a black screen
[19:14] <ioria> bray9082_, you know your video card model ? nvidia ?
[19:16] <Bashing-om> bray9082_: That will work also to use the parameter. key combo ctl+x .. best I recall for the liveCD to continue the boot process .. and then what results ? Will take a long time to load into ram and expand .
[19:17] <bray9082_> My video card model is some onboard VGA crap
[19:17] <bray9082_> Idk
[19:18] <ioria> bray9082_, what pc is that ?
[19:18] <soee_> kernel build for yakkety will work in xenial?
[19:18] <ikonia> no
[19:18] <ikonia> thats why it's for a different version
[19:19] <soee_> and it possible to have 4.6 in xenial?
[19:19] <bray9082_> ioria: It's some old dell that came with Windows server 2003 that my boss had
[19:20] <ikonia> soee_: yes
[19:20] <ioria> soee_, you can try mainline ppa .debs
[19:20] <Guest60182> curious /dev/log that a socket file that is somehow assocated with syslog file. Though when i do an lsof to see what uses it currently nothing on my machine. What is the purpose of this is it some network firewall log file mechanism
[19:20] <soee_> ioria: there is no 4.6 for xenial in mainline
[19:20] <akik> ikonia: have you tested it? v4.6-yakkety installed without errors in xenial
[19:20] <ikonia> akik: no, as I don't use software designed for the wrong version
[19:20] <ioria> soee_, yep http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[19:21] <ioria> bray9082_, i'd try Lubuntu
[19:21] <ikonia> ioria: no
[19:21] <ioria> bray9082_,  14.04
[19:21] <ikonia> ioria: no xeinal there
[19:21] <ioria> oh
[19:21] <soee_> ioria: and where do you see 4.6 for Xenial ? :)
[19:21] <ortsvorsteher> !imagemaker | ubottu
[19:22] <ikonia> soee_: why do you want 4.6
[19:22] <ikonia> and please don't say "because it's later"
[19:22] <ioria> sorry understood yakkety
[19:22] <Bashing-om> bray9082_: +1 ^ " Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware." .
[19:22] <bray9082_> Bashing-om: what's the desktop environment in lubuntu?
[19:23] <ioria> lxde
[19:23] <cscf> As was mentioned^
[19:23] <cscf> LXDE is a light fork of XFCE, btw
[19:24] <OerHeks> LXDE is not a light fork of XFCE, anyway
[19:24] <bray9082_> Bashing-om: actually the first time I tied to boot ubuntu I did see unity flash for a second
[19:24] <ioria> cscf, lxde it's a fork of xfce ???
[19:24] <OerHeks> cscf, not related at all
[19:24] <cscf> Ah, I misread
[19:24] <cscf> It was a light replacement
[19:25] <Erige> ikonia: Would adding echo '10m' > /sys/devices/platform/dell-laptop/leds/dell\:\:kbd_backlight/stop_timeout to rc.local work?
[19:25] <ikonia> Erige: I hate that as a solution personally
[19:25] <ikonia> (just a personal opinion)
[19:25] <AmK11> help
[19:26] <ikonia> ask a question then
[19:26] <Erige> ikonia: I'm not sure how to get it to work without it. If i just change it then reboot its back to 1m instead of 10m
[19:26] <ikonia> Erige: you need to find the kenel parameter name, put it in sysctl.conf or in as a kernel boot argument
[19:28] <fuser> hi. what is the default window manager for 16.04?
[19:29] <OerHeks> fuser, for what ubuntu version ??
[19:32] <ioria> soee_, this guy did it, but not sure about it (at your risk) https://raonyguimaraes.com/how-to-install-kernel-4-6-on-ubuntu-16-04-xenial/
[19:34] <BluesKaj> 4,6 makes kubuntu 16.04 run very well
[19:35] <ioria> BluesKaj, you installed it ?
[19:36] <BluesKaj> have it on Lenovo laptop and HP desktop
[19:36] <ioria> BluesKaj,  used ppa ?
[19:37] <tobi_> hi
[19:37] <BluesKaj> i found a site with a script ..hang on I'll check my history
[19:37] <ioria> BluesKaj,  thanx
[19:37] <BluesKaj> ioria,^
[19:37] <tobi_> does someone know something about proxychains / tsocks or something like that? i want to run the same program, multiple times through different proxys
[19:38] <tobi_> so for example one firefox goes through a proxy in england and another firefox goes through a proxy in spain
[19:40] <BluesKaj> ioria, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/05/install-linux-kernel-4-6-ubuntu-16-04/
[19:40] <ikonia> these urls and advice to use external kernel repos are bad
[19:40] <renato_> good evining
[19:40] <ioria> BluesKaj,  thank you , yed used mainline
[19:40] <renato_> yes
[19:41] <BluesKaj> ioria, there's a newer 4.6.1 version out but I haven't tried it...yes mainline
[19:41] <ioria> BluesKaj,  ok, but i'm still a bit diffident .... :þ
[19:41] <akik> ikonia: the instructions reference the kernel mainline
[19:41] <ikonia> so ?
[19:42] <erebel55> does anyone know why my init.d script doesn't echo anything?
[19:42] <erebel55> http://pastebin.com/cxvDzBAv
[19:42] <akik> ikonia: so it's not as bad as you make it sound
[19:42] <ikonia> I think it is
[19:42] <erebel55> http://i.imgur.com/RaCajHf.png
[19:43] <BluesKaj> ikonia, no troubles at all on Xenial with the mainline 4.6 kernel
[19:43] <ikonia> BluesKaj: "you" have had no troubles
[19:43] <BluesKaj> had it for a couple of weeks
[19:43] <ikonia> you having no trouble doesn't mean it's a good idea
[19:44] <ikonia> while I'm pleased you've had no problems, these URL's pushing it to people blindly is just not good
[19:44] <ioria> the devs have made it available for xenial ....
[19:44] <ikonia> ioria: they have made a development for specific use case testing available
[19:44] <ioria> ikonia,  oh, ok
[19:46] <BluesKaj> iko wqell it;'s a given certain hardware may not run so well , but I don't have anything out of the ordinary , pretty generic nvidia and intel media and othe HP installed components
[19:46] <BluesKaj> ikonia,^
[19:46] <ikonia> BluesKaj: again - I'm pleased for "you"
[19:46] <BluesKaj> okok
[19:46] <ikonia> these kernels are there for specific functions and testings, if you want to run it, thats great, but these sites pushing it blindly to people are not good
[19:50] <akik> the mainline kernels use unmodified kernel source and ubuntu's configuration
[19:51] <ikonia> yes, hence why they are called mainline
[19:51] <fluvian> when I `su root` and then send a message using `write` or `wall`, it displays as a message from my own user instead of root. how does the system track this, and how can I send from *root* instead?
[19:52] <ikonia> su root should not work as there is not unlocked root account
[19:52] <akik> fluvian: i guess you should use "su - root"
[19:52] <k1l_> fluvian: use sudo instead of su
[19:52] <EriC^^> fluvian: try sudo -i instead of su root
[19:52] <k1l_> sudo -i, if you need a root shell
[19:55] <fluvian> akik k1l_ EriC^^: `sudo -i`, `su -` and `su -l` all have the same problem
[19:55] <lerner> I bouht 2 kilos of frozen fish. I had to place them next to my laptop. My laptop became cold. I started my laptop, it worked, on password prompt a red alert appeared: "log in failed"; but I had not written anything. On entering my regular password it kept returning fails... I had to unplug it, restart it and this time it worked
[19:55] <lerner> does temperature affect password behavior?
[19:55] <ikonia> no
[19:55] <ioria> fluvian, maybe because there is no root user ?
[19:56] <OerHeks> fishy problem
[19:56] <ikonia> there is a root user, it is just locked
[19:56] <ikonia> (and rightly so)
[19:56] <akik> ioria: you serious? of course there is a root user
[19:56] <ikonia> it has a valid uid and shell
[19:56] <fluvian> root exists in passwd
[19:56] <Guest60182> I under stand the differents between tty and ttyS. The differences between ttyX and vcsX devices . But what is the difference between the vcs and vcsa device files?
[19:56] <ioria> akik, configured by default ?
[19:56] <ikonia> it is a locked account by default
[19:57] <Ben64> fluvian: sudo su -c "echo hi | wall"
[19:57] <OerHeks> not root user, but root-priv to the 1st account created during install
[19:57] <akik> ioria: always has been a root user in linux
[19:57] <EriC^^> fluvian: interesting problem
[19:57] <lerner> my laptop takes 2 whole minutes to shut down since shutdown order is issued... during that period of time I only see the backdrop even though grub is configured to show the orders that are being issued on shutting down... why?
[19:57] <ioria> akik, yes, but ubuntu ....
[19:57] <EriC^^> i wonder where it's getting the user from
[19:58] <akik> ioria: yes always has been a root user in ubuntu
[19:58] <fluvian> Ben64: well that had the effect of messing up my IRC client... but message still shows as being from me@host
[19:58] <ikonia> lerner: shutdown order is missing ? what
[19:58] <ioria> akik, ok
[19:58] <Ben64> fluvian: well maybe you didn't type it properly, works fine here
[19:58] <OerHeks> akik, get your facts right, there isn't, try login as root :-D
[19:58] <ikonia> EriC^^: privilege seperation through sudo probably
[19:58] <Ben64> Broadcast Message from root@ben64
[19:58] <akik> OerHeks: you're wrong
[19:58] <EriC^^> Ben64: i can confirm it doesn't work here either
[19:58] <EriC^^> sudo su -c '....'
[19:59] <EriC^^> neither does env - before the command (using a clean environment)
[19:59] <ikonia> sudo controls an env with sudo_env parameter
[19:59] <lerner> ikonia, do I have to add "? what" to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line on grub?
[19:59] <akik> as ikonia said, the root account's password is locked in ubuntu by default
[19:59] <fluvian> OerHeks: root may not have password, in which case ssh login (pubkey) or `su` is only way to use root
[19:59] <ikonia> lerner: I don't know what you are saying, grub is used for booting,
[20:00] <ikonia> su is not the way to use root on ubuntu
[20:00] <fluvian> ikonia: first thing I tried was clearing all SUDO_* env variables... :P
[20:00] <ikonia> sudo is as the account is locked
[20:00] <ikonia> fluvian: well that sounds like a terrible idea
[20:00] <lerner> ikonia, lerner: shutdown order is missing ? what < I dont understand that
[20:00] <OerHeks> akik so you answered it yourself, good.
[20:00] <ikonia> lerner: I don't actually understand what you are saying,
[20:00] <Ben64> EriC^^: how about "sudo -i"; "bash"; "echo hi | wall"
[20:01] <lerner> ikonia, you wrote: lerner: shutdown order is missing ? what
[20:01] <ikonia> Ben64: do you need bash after sudo
[20:01] <lerner> and I dont understand it
[20:01] <ikonia> lerner: what is your question
[20:01] <Ben64> ikonia: works here
[20:01] <akik> OerHeks: what do you mean? that root account does not exist in ubuntu?
[20:01] <ikonia> Ben64: what about if you just "sudo -i" then wall hello
[20:01] <Ben64> oh that does work
[20:01] <Ben64> then why did people say it didn't
[20:01] <ikonia> should do as thats not privilege seperation
[20:01] <ikonia> only if you "sudo command"
 akik k1l_ EriC^^: `sudo -i`, `su -` and `su -l` all have the same problem
[20:02] <OerHeks> akik, actually i don't care to answer, you are trolling.
[20:02] <akik> OerHeks: i'm trying to tell you, root account has *always* existed in ubuntu
[20:02] <lerner> why dont I see the processes being terminated when I execute an order to shut down, even when grub has been configured to do so: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet" ?
[20:02] <ikonia> lerner: grub is used for booting, you're not booting
[20:02] <tgm4883> all this root account talk seems semi-offtopic. Can we all agree that the root account exists and is disabled?
[20:03] <EriC^^> Ben64: ikonia sudo -i; wall something doesn't work here, neither does sudo su -c 'wall something'
[20:03] <Ben64> EriC^^: then you got something weird going on
[20:03] <EriC^^> trying sudo -i; bash; wall something
[20:03] <lerner> ok ikonia , what do I need to edit to actually see how processes are being terminated when I shut down my laptop?
[20:04] <ikonia> EriC^^: sudo -i
[20:04] <ikonia> then type "wall hello"
[20:04] <EriC^^> Ben64: also doesn't work, ikonia it doesn't work
[20:04] <ikonia> lerner: just hit escape
[20:04] <lerner> ok
[20:04] <Ben64> EriC^^: you mess with sudo?
[20:04] <lerner> thx
[20:04] <EriC^^> Ben64: nope, standard install
[20:05] <EriC^^> 16.04
[20:05] <EriC^^> which ubuntu version are you using?
[20:05] <Ben64> strange
[20:05] <Ben64> 14.04
[20:05] <lickalott> hey guys, anyone here good with qemu/libvirt & virt manager?   I accidentally deleted my vm (windows 7) and am trying to rebuild it but it hangs at the windows logo.  I've tried a network path to the iso, pulled the files off the disk and created an .iso and tried pointing it to the disc.  Same results everytime.
[20:05] <EriC^^> maybe that's it
[20:05] <Ben64> i don't see why
[20:05] <lickalott> I'm a little stuck now.  Any help would be appreciated.
[20:05] <fluvian> hmm I am also on 14.04, could be it
[20:05] <Ben64> fluvian: except mine works
[20:05] <fluvian> agree that it seems unlikely
[20:05] <fluvian> oh it does OK. has anyone else repo'd this problem or is it unique to me?
[20:06] <Ben64> i think you're the first person to use wall in about a decade
[20:07] <EriC^^> !bug | fluvian
[20:07] <fluvian> Ben64: you're probably right
[20:07] <gonui> hey there, how can i know what ubuntu version i have from terminal ???
[20:07] <EriC^^> gonui: lsb_release -d
[20:07] <tgm4883> gonui: lsb_release -a
[20:07] <fluvian> EriC^^: maybe this is more of an undocumented behaviour than a bug?
[20:08] <EriC^^> fluvian: hehe
[20:08] <curlyears> heigh hough]
[20:08] <gonui> Do i need to upgrade ?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/17154720/
[20:09] <tgm4883> !eol | gonui
[20:09] <ikonia> gonui: that release is end of life if thats what you mean ?
[20:09] <C_minus> Is there a way to change the graphics memory alloted to a process? Nvidia-smi days my neural net uses only 120mb and is painfully slow.
[20:09] <gonui> ikonia ; so i need to upgrade to .. ?
[20:09] <ikonia> C_minus: it will use what it can
[20:09] <EriC^^> gonui: 15.10
[20:09] <ikonia> gonui: a supported release, which is 16.04 for you
[20:10] <tgm4883> gonui: you'll need to upgrade to 15.10, then 16.04
[20:10] <Bashing-om> C_minus: My Phoenix bios .. has the option of how much ram to allocate to the graphics. maybe yours ?
[20:10] <gonui> tgm4883 ; how to do that ??
[20:10] <tgm4883> !eol | gonui
[20:10] <tgm4883> gonui: read the page I linked earlier
[20:11] <kristian_on_linu> hi all
[20:11] <gonui> tgm4883 : would it be safe to upgrade ? i fear messing my installation !!
[20:11] <kristian_on_linu> I put this in rc.local: bash /usr/bin/temp_throttle.sh 80
[20:11] <kristian_on_linu> is it correct?
[20:11] <tgm4883> gonui: well I always recommend backups
[20:12] <gonui> tgm4883 ; I have backed up my data , but I have some special configurations , i cant backup ??
[20:12] <tgm4883> kristian_on_linu: correct for what?
[20:12] <tgm4883> gonui: that's odd, you should be able to backup everything
[20:13] <gonui> tgm4883 ; what do you mean by backup , i just transfered my data to usbs sticks ??
[20:13] <tgm4883> gonui: yea, that would be backing things up
[20:14] <gonui> tgm4883 ; but i cant buckup my app configurations ..
[20:14] <C_minus> Bashing-om thanks but I'm interested in the allocation for this particular python process.
[20:14] <tgm4883> gonui: why not? just backup your entire home directory
[20:14] <gonui> tgm4883 : its not like a VM ..
[20:14] <lickalott> is there a specific libvirt chan that I can ask in?
[20:14] <notadeveloper> how do i install ping?
[20:15] <EriC^^> notadeveloper: sudo apt-get install iputils-ping
[20:15] <tgm4883> notadeveloper: iputils-ping
[20:15] <tgm4883> Bah, EriC^^ is apparently much faster
[20:16] <gonui> tgm4883 ; and there is something weird happaned , i suddenly lost all disk space it gone to 00 ??
[20:16] <tgm4883> gonui: we don't know what you did unless you tell us
[20:17] <gonui> tgm4883; i did nothing but not upgrading to the latest release , so i think i might got hacked or something ?
[20:17] <gonui> tgm4883: what should i do ?
[20:18] <hippo23> hi
[20:18] <C_minus> ikonia I have 2gb mem on this gpu. X and compiz are using 170mb and 30mb. Then 120 for python neural net and that's all.
[20:19] <tgm4883> gonui: I honestly don't have the time to try and extract information from you. You said something weird happened and all your space went to 00. Did you do something to make that happen? What space (USB drive, Hard drive)?
[20:19] <gonui> tgm4883 ; should i upgrade from software & updates  ??
[20:19] <ikonia> C_minus: and ?
[20:19] <EriC^^> gonui: if you have 0 space it's not going to work
[20:19] <gonui> tgm4883 ; Hard drive space went to 00
[20:20] <EriC^^> gonui: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit && df -h | pastebinit
[20:20] <tgm4883> gonui: then stop downloading ISOs
[20:20] <gonui> EriC^^ ; I had to delete and transfer some files to get some space now i have 6 gb in hard drive
[20:20] <EriC^^> gonui: you might need to run sudo apt-get autoclean first
[20:20] <Guest60182> the difference between vcsa and vcs ?
[20:21] <tgm4883> Guest60182: wrong channel?
[20:21] <Guest60182> each have 7 device files
[20:21] <EriC^^> gonui: ok, well determine where the space went
[20:21] <EriC^^> gonui: try du -sh /* | sort -h
[20:21] <tgm4883> We should really have the netcat command for pastebinning as a factoid
[20:21] <EriC^^> gonui: maybe you have a long running log problem or something
[20:21] <gonui> EriC^^ ; it didnt go to my home directory though ..
[20:22] <gonui> the space
[20:22] <EriC^^> gonui: try du -sh.....
[20:22] <kristian_on_linu> tgm4883, yeah ... I want to run this script: http://seperohacker.blogspot.dk/2012/10/linux-keep-your-cpu-cool-with-frequency.html
[20:23] <EriC^^> gonui: try du -sh /var
[20:23] <alberto_80> Hello everyone
[20:24] <alberto_80> Is there any Linux program that show information about the type of RAM modules a machine has? I mean, whether it's DDR2 or DDR3...etc.
[20:24] <alberto_80> shows, sorry
[20:24] <ikonia> lshw
[20:24] <ikonia> dmidecode
[20:24] <bray9082_> Bashing-om: even lubuntu isn't even working it booted to grub then try without installing  boots to a flashing line in the corner
[20:25] <alberto_80> ikonia Thank you
[20:25] <Bashing-om> !md5sum
[20:25] <OerHeks> sudo lshw -short -C memory
[20:25] <gonui> EriC^^ ; du -sh /var" gave    " 53G	/var
[20:25] <Bashing-om> bray9082_: ^^ did you verify the dowmloaded .iso file ?
[20:25] <bray9082_> Bashing-om: do you think it was the ISO?
[20:26] <EriC^^> gonui: that'd be the problem
[20:26] <EriC^^> gonui: inspect further, du -sh /var/* | sort -h
[20:26] <bray9082_> I don't really know how to verify it
[20:26] <EriC^^> is log the culprit?
[20:26] <erebel55> wtf is this? http://i.imgur.com/vqmAE61.png
[20:26] <bray9082_> You mean check CD for defects?
[20:26] <ikonia> erebel55: tone down the language please,
[20:27] <bray9082_> Bashing-om:
[20:27] <ikonia> erebel55: it means the service file/definition is not found
[20:27] <gonui> EriC^^ ; http://paste.ubuntu.com/17155174/
[20:27] <ikonia> I assume you're trying to write an upstart job on systemd
[20:27] <Bashing-om> bray9082_: Cannot rule the .iso file out unless it has been verified ,,, and then the burn to CD is to be verified .
[20:27] <erebel55> lol I didn't know acronyms were bad language now
[20:27] <bray9082_> Bashing-om: Actually it's a USB
[20:27] <erebel55> ikonia, yeah I'm writing a init startup script
[20:27] <ikonia> erebel55: try writing a systemd unit file, rather than an upstart script
[20:27] <gonui> EriC^^ ; so it all went to /var/log
[20:27] <lordcirth> erebel55, well, write a .service file instead
[20:28] <EriC^^> gonui: ok, try ls -lh /var/log
[20:28] <Bashing-om> bray9082_: Either CD or USB .. the download and the copy needs to be verified .
[20:28] <EriC^^> gonui: try to upload one of the huge files to see what's making it big
[20:29] <erebel55> what's wrong with init.d scripts?
[20:29] <ikonia> erebel55: ubuntu uses upstart now
[20:29] <ikonia> init.d scripts are obsolete
[20:29] <tgm4883> ikonia: you mean systemd
[20:29] <ikonia> (legacy)
[20:29] <ikonia> oops
[20:29] <gonui> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17155227/
[20:29] <ikonia> systemd
[20:29] <erebel55> sigh
[20:29] <ikonia> thank you
[20:29] <tgm4883> :)
[20:29] <tgm4883> erebel55: there's not much that uses sysvinit scripts anymore
[20:30] <EriC^^> gonui: ok, type "dmesg"
[20:30] <EriC^^> you should see something that's repeating, paste it
[20:30] <gonui> EriC^^; it would crash if i open it with leafpad , how to open it from shell ?
[20:30] <bray9082_> Bashing-om: How would I go about verifying it?
[20:30] <David_> exit
[20:30] <erebel55> okay, I'm looking up service file then
[20:31] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | bray9082_  Tutorial::
[20:32] <gonui> EriC^^ ; should i start the command with pastebinit to get a url ?? i forgot ..
[20:32] <EriC^^> gonui: type dmesg | pastebinit
[20:33] <EriC^^> or dmesg | tail -40 | pastebinit
[20:33] <EriC^^> do the second one
[20:33] <netameta> what commend can i use to fetch all output of a script and pip it to a file ?
[20:33] <netameta> in bash
[20:33] <Ben64> > file
[20:33] <gonui> EriC^^ ; the second one http://paste.ubuntu.com/17155371/
[20:34] <EriC^^> netameta: ./script.sh > /file 2>&1
[20:34] <lordcirth> netameta, ./script > file
[20:34] <netameta> i see
[20:34] <cool3> i m blind
[20:34] <lordcirth> Eric's will also catch error messages, if that's what you want
[20:34] <netameta> EriC^^, whats the &1 for ?
[20:34] <gonui> EriC^^; whats that for ?
[20:35] <Pici> netameta: redirects stderr to the same location of stdout
[20:35] <EriC^^> netameta: 2>&1 redirects stderr (standard error) to standard out (your file)
[20:35] <gonui> EriC^^ ; the first output http://paste.ubuntu.com/17155363/
[20:36] <netameta> will > filename alone wont suffice ?
[20:36] <lordcirth> netameta, > file will capture standard output
[20:36] <EriC^^> gonui: hmm, looks ok, look into /var/log/kern.log
[20:36] <Pici> netameta: only if you don't care what may be sent to stderr.
[20:36] <lordcirth> netameta, but error messages would still be printed to screen
[20:36] <netameta> I am fine with them being printed yea
[20:37] <EriC^^> netameta: they won't go to the file if you care about that
[20:37] <lordcirth> netameta, for example, run 'find / > list' - the names of files will be saved, permission denied errors will be printed
[20:38] <netameta> lordcirth, I see
[20:38] <gonui> EriC^^; it s big 21 gb
[20:38] <netameta> so how will i make everything go to the file ?
[20:38] <netameta> 2>&1 ?
[20:38] <EriC^^> netameta: yeah
[20:38] <gonui> EriC^^; should i delete those log files ??
[20:38] <EriC^^> if you want both, printed on the screen + goes to file there's "tee"
[20:39] <EriC^^> ./script.sh | tee file
[20:39] <EriC^^> gonui: not until you see what's causing it in the first place
[20:39] <EriC^^> gonui: if you want do sudo >/var/log/kern.log
[20:40] <EriC^^> gonui: the errors will be in syslog too
[20:40] <gonui> EriC^^; what does it do ?
[20:40] <EriC^^> gonui: makes it an empty file
[20:40] <lordcirth> gonui, that will empty the log.  I wouldn't do that
[20:40] <EriC^^> lordcirth: it's like 20gb
[20:40] <halakar_> hey guys
[20:41] <gonui> lordcirth ;  ?
[20:41] <halakar_> anyone here know much about how to access a dat72 tape drive under ubuntu?  kind of an emergency.
[20:41] <lordcirth> EriC^^, there's plenty of time to delete it, after he's fixed the problem.
[20:41] <halakar_> lsusb sees it, but I don't know how the hell to mount the damn thing
[20:41] <halakar_> I'm on ubuntu 14.04LTS
[20:41] <EriC^^> lordcirth: well, the same stuff will be in /var/log/syslog
[20:42] <halakar_> any assistance would be appreciated, thx
[20:42] <gonui> lordcirth ; am planning on doing an upgrade from 15.04 to 16,04 i want it to go  smooth without problems ..
[20:42] <cool3> who wants problems anyway ?
[20:42] <Jordan_U> halakar_: You don't mount tape drives since they're not random access (not even close).
[20:42] <lordcirth> halakar_, what does 'lsblk' show?
[20:43] <lordcirth> nvrm^
[20:43] <halakar_> ks
[20:43] <halakar_> well here's the deal
[20:43] <gonui> EriC^^ ; should i upgrade first from Software & updates ?
[20:43] <halakar_> these people need to access a backup on a tape drive that was made with an old as crap version of unix/linux
[20:43] <EriC^^> gonui: no, check kern.log and see what it says
[20:43] <netameta> is there a way to print environment variable into a file ?
[20:43] <halakar_> lordcirth: Hang on and I'll tell you
[20:43] <netameta> because the above didnt seem to work
[20:43] <lordcirth> halakar_, don't bother, if it's not a block device
[20:44] <Jordan_U> halakar_: I've never used a tape drive myself, but I would expect that you would use tar (Tape ARchive) to get the data on and off it.
[20:44] <halakar_> yeah, i was using fdisk -l and it didn't show anything
[20:44] <EriC^^> netameta: maybe join #bash ?
[20:44] <halakar_> Jordan_U: right - but I need to be able to view some of the data on the tape
[20:44] <halakar_> so that i can scrape it off or extract it somehow
[20:44] <SaltySolomon> Hi, I got an issue with networking, the leds are lit, but the interface says it is down and I cannot get it back up :/
[20:44] <Cmaj6> I'm following along a tutorial about learning openGL using cpp. I can program in java, but never touched cpp. The tutorial provides some header files to be included. However, what is best practice regarding storing those header files? In other words: can i puit these header files in /usr/include/ or shoudl i put them in the directory of the cpp project?
[20:45] <Jordan_U> halakar_: Dump all of the data off the drive and into a file (which I presume will end up being a .tar file) then work from there.
[20:45] <halakar_> right, but i need to be able to READ the thing.  how to read the data that is on the tape?
[20:45] <netameta> EriC^^, thanks will do
[20:45] <halakar_> It's an HP DAT72 external USB drive
[20:45] <halakar_> it shows up under lsusb
[20:45] <Jordan_U> halakar_: Also, if it is as important as you're implying then don't actually *do* anything until you have done a good deal of research to be sure you don't accidentally erase the data you're trying to read.
[20:46] <lordcirth> halakar_, do you have a /dev/st0 ?
[20:46] <halakar_> hang on
[20:46] <OerHeks> halakar_, i assume that tape is listed under /dev/nst0 >> http://www.cs.inf.ethz.ch/stricker/lab/linux_tape.html
[20:46] <halakar_> I have a /dev/tape
[20:46] <halakar_> under /dev/tape there are two subdirs, one says 'by-id'
[20:46] <halakar_> one says 'by-dev'
[20:47] <halakar_> the 'by-id' contains a few items that do have in the name 'hb-usb' which is the make and interface of this USB tape drive
[20:47] <Jordan_U> halakar_: ls -l /dev/tape/*/
[20:48] <Jordan_U> halakar_: I'll bet they're all symlinks to the one actual device.
[20:48] <halakar_> dmesg shows the device being detected and what not when i plug it in
[20:48] <fluvian> I want sudo to always prompt me for a password, but I don't want to allow password logins on my account... is this possible?
[20:48] <halakar_> [ 1454.165989] st 8:0:0:0: Attached scsi tape st0 [ 1454.166002] st 8:0:0:0: st0: try direct i/o: yes (alignment 512 B) [ 1454.166200] st 8:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 1
[20:49] <lordcirth> fluvian, as in, you want auto-login locally?
[20:49] <fluvian> lordcirth: not quite. I want ssh pubkey login to be the only way to login to my account
[20:49] <lordcirth> fluvian, oh, ok.
[20:50] <lordcirth> fluvian, so you set up & test your key login, then disable password auth in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:50] <fluvian> but I also want to be prompted for a password when I sudo. locking my account works for preventing login, but then I have to set nopasswd sudo otherwise it's unusable
[20:50] <fluvian> lordcirth: that works, except another auth'd user can then password login to my account locally
[20:50] <lordcirth> fluvian, you mean with su?
[20:51] <halakar_> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/Di3RgqnQ
[20:51] <erebel55> okay, so I wrote a systemd script and read up on all of that
[20:51] <erebel55> but now when I start I am getting
[20:51] <erebel55> http://i.imgur.com/92PIZD6.png
[20:51] <erebel55> refusing to run with the root privileges
[20:51] <fluvian> lordcirth: with su or login
[20:51] <lordcirth> erebel55, well, you shouldn't run game servers as root, so that makes sense.
[20:52] <lordcirth> erebel55, you can make a service account for the game server, and run as that.
[20:52] <cool3> how long does it take to know linux ? reading ebooks and practical knowledge ?
[20:53] <lordcirth> fluvian, have you considered not allowing untrusted users on your machine?
[20:53] <Jordan_U> halakar_: Please use http://paste.debian.net and provide the raw plain text link.
[20:53] <lordcirth> cool3, "know linux" cannot be defined.
[20:53] <halakar_> http://paste.debian.net/732097/
[20:53] <lordcirth> cool3, know linux well enough to do what?
[20:54] <cool3> lordcirth, know linux to do server install and maintenance
[20:54] <cool3> lordcirth, to be a network administrator
[20:55] <lordcirth> cool3, hard to say.  Could be as low as 1 year, if you learn fast.
[20:55] <erebel55> lordcirth, when I don't run as sudo it gives me this http://i.imgur.com/FRlk5XO.png
[20:55] <lordcirth> But I'd think more like 2-3
[20:55] <halakar_> I have to go, I'll be back later guys.  I'm sure there's a way to access this tape
[20:55] <halakar_> Jordan_U: maybe I'll catch you later man.
[20:56] <lordcirth> erebel55, you change the user the service runs as in the .service file, not by who starts it
[20:56] <lordcirth> erebel55, and it shouldn't run as you, it should run as it's own user
[20:56] <cool3> lordcirth, ok i have time. so i will focus on this :) thanks
[20:56] <Tin_man> cool3 if you have a spare old pc, just setup a server at home, and learn at your own pace
[20:56] <gonui> Eric**: when i tried opening the kern.log ubuntu crashed !!
[20:56] <notadeveloper> how do i install add-apt-repository
[20:57] <fluvian> lordcirth: good general advice. but if an unprivileged user is compromised, they could maybe access my account and hence root. I guess using a decent password will be good enough.
[20:57] <OerHeks> notadeveloper, on what ubuntu version? it shold be standard available AFAIK
[20:57] <cool3> Tin_man, yes i have a spare old celeron system. are you guys all pro and work in that field ? they said i will have to update my knowledge every 6 months
[20:57] <notadeveloper> on ubuntu container
[20:57] <erebel55> lordcirth, oh okay yeah my service file is really simple right now http://pastebin.com/5WvJBNbQ
[20:57] <lordcirth> fluvian, but what openings allow such an unprivileged user into your system?  Actual users or services?
[20:58] <lordcirth> cool3, you will have to update certain parts of knowledge every 6 mo.  Not all of it will be obsolete that fast.
[20:59] <Tin_man> i'm not a pro, but i set up my own home server for file sharing, and printer sharing, lot of how to's out there
[20:59] <cool3> lordcirth, oh cool
[20:59] <fluvian> real users, whom I know personally, but I don't necessarily trust their opsec
[20:59] <OerHeks> notadeveloper, try: man add-apt-repository # to see if it is there, else install software-properties-commo
[20:59] <lordcirth> fluvian, are you sure they need to be on your OS?  Do they just need a linux system?  ie, could you give them a container?
[20:59] <fluvian> lordcirth: i mean, i don't trust them to observe good security practices
[21:00] <cool3> Tin_man, yes i will begin to do it at home :)
[21:00] <cool3> ty
[21:00] <fluvian> lordcirth: that's also possible
[21:00] <lordcirth> fluvian, LXD containers are simple, fast, and more secure than having an untrusted user on the system, no matter how much you try to lock them down.
[21:00] <Tin_man> i'm still learning, had some trouble with CUPS, but the other parts are fairly simple to grasp.
[21:01] <lordcirth> Just make sure you make unprivileged containers
[21:01] <lordcirth> Tin_man, everyone has trouble with CUPS
[21:01] <gonui> most of the hard disk space is in the /var directory , i lost space from home directory ..
[21:01] <Tin_man> that makes me feel better lordcirth ..
[21:02] <lordcirth> Printers are a huge pain in general
[21:02] <erebel55> lordcirth, by service account do you mean an account that is locked with usermod -L ?
[21:02] <Tin_man> take care all, be back later..
[21:02] <fluvian> lordcirth: OK, I'll consider that.
[21:02] <cool3> lordcirth, printers with programmed obscolecence is difficult
[21:02] <gonui> lordcirth; am not sure what to do ..
[21:03] <lordcirth> gonui, well, did you find out what is spamming your logs?  I wasn't watching
[21:04] <gonui> lordcirth; how to fix it ? do a clean install ?
[21:04] <lordcirth> gonui, what's the problem?
[21:04] <gonui> lordcirth: most of the hard disk space is in the /var directory , i lost space from home directory
[21:05] <lordcirth> gonui, yeah, because your logs are huge.  That's not the problem, that's a symptom.  What made your logs so huge?
[21:06] <erebel55> lordcirth, I setup a user and added that to the .service file. But I'm still getting this org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 was not provided error
[21:07] <lordcirth> erebel55, are you running systemctl as root?
[21:07] <gonui> lordcirth : me ? lol
[21:07] <erebel55> lordcirth, no
[21:07] <lordcirth> gonui, are your logs still growing fast?  If not, feel free to truncate them and carry on.  If they are, that's a problem.
[21:07] <lordcirth> erebel55, well, you need to.
[21:07] <erebel55> okay, thank you
[21:08] <lordcirth> systemctl generally runs as root, but it starts services as various users
[21:08] <gonui> lordcirth ; how can i test if they are growing fast?
[21:08] <lordcirth> gonui, tail -f will follow the end of the file
[21:09] <gonui> lordcirth ; how to use tail -f  to follow kern.log ?
[21:10] <lordcirth> gonui, 'tail -f /var/log/kern.log'
[21:11] <Bashing-om> gonui: ^^ in a new terminal interface .
[21:11] <gonui> Bashing-om ; no need to use sudo , right ?
[21:12] <lordcirth> gonui, you are just reading, no need to sudo
[21:12] <Bashing-om> gonui: Correct .. sudo only as needed .. no need here .
[21:12] <gonui> lordcirth ; run the command and just leave the terminal and do something else ?
[21:13] <tojoko> is there any distribution thats able to boot and run from a sd-card via pci right out of the box?
[21:13] <lordcirth> gonui, well, a minute or 2 should do.  If it keeps printing a LOT of new stuff, then something is wrong
[21:13] <lordcirth> If not, then whatever problem filled your log is probably gone, and you can delete them
[21:13] <gonui> lordcirth ; just browsing or i should do other stuff ??
[21:13] <erebel55> lordcirth, thank you that worked. Now I'm getting other ambigious errors
[21:13] <erebel55> http://i.imgur.com/HPNanCy.png
[21:14] <lordcirth> gonui, probably doesn't matter.
[21:14] <gonui> lordcirth ; i see
[21:14] <Norux> hi guys, I have a very dumb question. How can I turn a video by 90 degrees?
[21:15] <lordcirth> erebel55, move the game server files to a location that the service user owns
[21:15] <lordcirth> erebel55, the point of the service user is that it can't read your home directory
[21:16] <erebel55> ahh okay, I will try that
[21:16] <craigbass76> Is ther ea real lightweight distro anyone can think of? slow internet, and I need to run fsck on a box
[21:17] <nairwolf> lubuntu ?
[21:17] <craigbass76> nairwolf, lighter
[21:20] <MonkeyDust> craigbass76  ask in #linux, or ##linux
[21:22] <Yuri4_> Can someone help me to understand, why my cronotab -e @reboot script doesn't run?
[21:22] <craigbass76> MonkeyDust, Going to try puppy -- ;looks lightweight
[21:23] <Yuri4_> sleep 30; mount -t cifs //secret.file.core.windows.net/cgi-bin /var/www/course/cgi-bin -o uid=33,gid=1000,vers=3.0,username=secret,password=PASSWORD,dir_mode=0755,file_mode=0644
[21:24] <erebel55> lordcirth, still giving me the same thing
[21:24] <erebel55> http://i.imgur.com/PgPQkWx.png
[21:28] <erebel55> http://i.imgur.com/isMitWv.png
[21:28] <soLucien> hello guys ! I want to use apt-proxy to download packages
[21:28] <soLucien> and cache them
[21:28] <soLucien> my question is:
[21:28] <soLucien> how to overwrite the sources list
[21:28] <soLucien> so that it points to the apt-proxy ?
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> !find apt-proxy
[21:29] <erebel55> http://i.imgur.com/w1IPG0b.png
[21:30] <soLucien> http://apt-proxy.sourceforge.net/
[21:30] <erebel55> lordcirth, that is the folder permissions, systemd file, and error
[21:30] <soLucien> so i run this on a machine
[21:31] <cihhan> hi all! i have one question: is there a way to create a new partition by shrinking LVM root partition online?
[21:31] <soLucien> then i want the vm machine to use the apt-proxy to retrieve the packages
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> soLucien  is that a server?
[21:31] <soLucien> so i want to overwrite sources.list
[21:31] <soLucien> yes
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> soLucien  try in #ubuntu-server
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> soLucien  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptProxy
[21:33] <soLucien> http://pasteboard.co/1yYdZxjv.png
[21:34] <Hulio> hi guys, i remember there is an alias file  something like  'pico .basrc'  where is that?
[21:34] <Hulio> i wnat to make an alias
[21:34] <Hulio> please show me thankls.
[21:35] <MonkeyDust> Hulio  try   nano  ~/.bashrc
[21:35] <Hulio> oh
[21:35] <Hulio> i can't use pico ?
[21:35] <Nobgul> yes
[21:35] <Nobgul> pico and nano are the same
[21:35] <Hulio> oh
[21:35] <erebel55> man why is this so hard. I just want to run a service >_<
[21:36] <Hulio> do I put alias to the last line in file?
[21:36] <Hulio> or any where?
[21:36] <Nobgul> Hulio: the file is hidden you should be able to see the other hideen files with ls -al
[21:36] <Hulio> i know, but i can add text to the last line of file?
[21:36] <Hulio> or begining of the file?
[21:37] <Nobgul> before the fi
[21:37] <Hulio> ok
[21:37] <Nobgul> the fi exits it
[21:37] <Nobgul> there should be other alias there already
[21:38] <dax> the fi doesn't exit it.
[21:38] <Hulio> ok how to refersh what i put in?
[21:38] <Hulio> i save the file
[21:38] <dax> the `fi` is the close of the `if` function a few lines earlier
[21:38] <Hulio> i dont want to reboot, how to refresh the file
[21:38] <dax> source ~/.bashrc
[21:38] <Hulio> oh
[21:38] <Hulio> thanks
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> Hulio  i put my aliases on top of the file, e.g. 'agi=sudo apt-get installstall'
[21:39] <goddard> how can i get access to usb ports with wireshark in 16.04?
[21:39] <Nobgul> I should have explained the "exit" better.
[21:39] <goddard> it keeps sayaing i dont have permission
[21:39] <Hulio> ok, can someone give me example:     i want alias       cls =  clear
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> typo*
[21:39] <Hulio> give emample please
[21:39] <goddard> ive added the wireshark group like suggested
[21:39] <Nobgul> alias rm='rm -i'
[21:39] <goddard> even rebooted
[21:39] <Hulio> let say i want clear   to be cls
[21:39] <Hulio> can it be done?
[21:40] <LtL> ubottu: alias cls='clear'
[21:40] <Hulio> ok thanks
[21:40] <LtL> Hulio: alias cls='clear'
[21:40] <genii> Hulio: Nobgul gave an example, as you requested
[21:40] <goddard> the wireshark wiki says nothing
[21:40] <Hulio> it working
[21:40] <Hulio> beautifully
[21:40] <Hulio> thanks LtL
[21:41] <Hulio> LtL, you're smart
[21:41] <LtL> np Hulio
[21:41] <Nobgul> goddard: There is a wireshark channel on here, Not saying someone here can't help but i know i sure cant lol
[21:41] <goddard> Nobgul: thanks i am in that channel as well
[21:41]  * Hulio i salute lt
[21:41] <goddard> i remember a fix to this in the past
[21:41] <Hulio> i salute LtL
[21:41] <goddard> but the same doesn't seem to be working
[21:41] <Nobgul> If your system can see the ports then it is 100% a wireshark issue.
[21:41] <lordcirth> erebel55, was afk for supper.  Those permissions look fine to me.
[21:42] <cihhan> hi all! i have one question: is there a way to create a new partition by shrinking LVM root partition online?
[21:42] <Hulio> LtL, is that alias only for me?
[21:42] <Hulio> or for other uses as well?
[21:43] <Nobgul> You
[21:43] <Hulio> oh
[21:43] <lordcirth> erebel55, su to omniwar user, and try running the command directly.  It may provide more details.
[21:43] <Hulio> can't be assign globally?
[21:43] <Nobgul> each user has a bachrc file
[21:43] <Nobgul> Hulio: it can and i forget how
[21:43] <Nobgul> lol
[21:43] <Hulio> i see
[21:43] <EriC^> Hulio, /etc/bash.bashrc
[21:43] <Hulio> ok let me try that
[21:43] <Nobgul> there u go i just couldnt remember the path lol
[21:43] <Hulio> and delete from my bash
[21:44] <lordcirth> cihhan, you can, if the filesystem supports it.  But please back up first.
[21:44] <zuhaitz> Hi
[21:44] <Nobgul> hi zuhaitz
[21:44] <goddard> Oh i think usbmon isn't install in the 16.04 kernel
[21:44] <goddard> it says it is a module
[21:45] <goddard> can i get it in a pacakge?
[21:45] <goddard> doing a search for usbmon says nothing
[21:45] <Hulio> permision deny
[21:45] <Hulio> what the heck
[21:45] <Hulio> sudo ?
[21:45] <zuhaitz> I installed Ubuntu 16.04 in a laptop with nvidia and intel graphics but I can only manage to have intel (official) and nvidia (nouveau), I want to install nvidia official ones but it doesnt work, can anybody help please?
[21:45] <Nobgul> yes
[21:45] <Nobgul> You need to be root
[21:45] <Nobgul> to touch stuff in /etc
[21:46] <lordcirth> goddard, grep CONFIG_USB_MON /boot/config-`uname -r`
[21:46] <Nobgul> either sudo or su one or the other depending on how your setup
[21:46] <Hulio> working now
[21:46] <lordcirth> goddard, will tell you whether it's a module or not, which on mine it is
[21:46] <Hulio> cool eric^
[21:46] <Hulio> Eric^ you're way smartter
[21:46] <LtL> Hulio: better to just add aliases in your /home/user/.bashrc file
[21:46] <Hulio> thanks
[21:46] <Bashing-om> zuhaitz: The utility " Additional Drivers" offers what for graphic's drivers ?
[21:47] <Hulio> do i need to pay you?
[21:47] <zuhaitz> Dual graphics nvidia+intel ( 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM108M [GeForce 840M]  + VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller) But I cant use official nvidia drivers, only nouveau works.
[21:47] <Hulio> what is the charge?
[21:47] <LtL> Hulio: there should be more aliases in that file, just un-comment them
[21:47] <Hulio> ok
[21:47] <EriC^> Hulio: 1 million dollars
[21:47] <goddard> zuhaitz: i am using a 970m and it works perfectly
[21:47] <zuhaitz> goddard: nice for you, not my case
[21:47] <FManTropyx> I avoid denied permissions by always being root, but some people don't recommend it :)
[21:48] <Hulio> ok last one, is there command to shut down system?
[21:48] <goddard> zuhaitz: i had a 840m working as well
[21:48] <Hulio> via terminal
[21:48] <goddard> zuhaitz: ^
[21:48] <zuhaitz> goddard: with intel?
[21:48] <goddard> zuhaitz: you should try the legeacy
[21:48] <Hulio> i know there is 'sudo reboot'
[21:48] <lordcirth> Hulio, 'poweroff'
[21:48] <EriC^> Hulio: poweroff
[21:48] <deviation> Hi, I've got a weird problem with a linux machine I'm using for work. When I go to install a package via apt I get 'E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.', but when I run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a', it just hangs on one particular package
[21:48] <zuhaitz> goddard: intel + nvidia?
[21:48] <goddard> zuhaitz: you probably need to install bumblebee
[21:48] <zuhaitz> i did
[21:48] <genii> Also, shutdown -h now
[21:48] <zuhaitz> and primus
[21:48] <Nobgul> shutdown -r now
[21:48] <goddard> zuhaitz: did you try prime switch instead then?
[21:48] <Hulio> wow
[21:48] <Hulio> it is working
[21:48] <Nobgul> will work as well
[21:48] <Hulio> nice man
[21:48] <zuhaitz> Yes
[21:49] <Hulio> you guys are amazing
[21:49] <zuhaitz> but If I do lsmod there is no nvidia
[21:49] <lordcirth> deviation, what package?
[21:49] <deviation> actually my whole computer becomes unresponsive when I run dpkg --configure -a..
[21:49] <Hulio> thi this is fascinating
[21:49] <deviation> ossec-hids-agent
[21:49] <genii> Nobgul: Yep I prefer shutdown since just -h or -r , instead of differently named other commands
[21:49] <zuhaitz> ~$ optirun glxgears [  784.334693] [ERROR]You've no permission to communicate with the Bumblebee daemon. Try adding yourself to the 'bumblebee' group [  784.334711] [ERROR]Could not connect to bumblebee daemon - is it running?
[21:49] <lordcirth> Hulio, yeah, learning the command line is pretty fun :)
[21:49] <deviation> looks like some security software my work has installed
[21:49] <cihhan> lordcirth, I have LVM but the problem is that I cant unmount it to shrink.
[21:50] <lordcirth> cihhan, are you using ext4 filesystem?
[21:50] <zuhaitz> I am part of the group
[21:50] <Hulio> lordcirth, it's like i command the computer
[21:50] <Hulio> i'm in charge of my pc
[21:50] <Nobgul> genii: As far as i know -r will give no warning and just shutdown kinda an ememrgency shutdown.
[21:50] <zuhaitz> and it is running
[21:50] <lordcirth> Hulio, indeed you do :)  That's why I switched to Linux.
[21:50] <cihhan> lordcirth, yes
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Nobgul: -r is short for reboot.
[21:50] <lordcirth> cihhan, backup anything important first, just in case
[21:51] <Nobgul> really -_-
[21:51] <goddard> zuhaitz: usermod -aG bumblebee zuhaitz
[21:51] <goddard> or what ever your username is on your linux box
[21:51] <Nobgul> Jordan_U: thanks for the clarifcation.
[21:51] <lordcirth> cihhan, Can you boot off a livecd?
[21:51] <lordcirth> or USB
[21:51] <Jordan_U> Nobgul: You're welcome.
[21:51] <deviation> is there a way to see what's in the queue to be configured (ie, what is dpkg --configure -a about to configure?) and stop it from trying to configure those?
[21:51] <zuhaitz> goddard: what nvidia- did you install?
[21:51] <goddard> zuhaitz: after you add yourself to that group you will have to logout and then in
[21:52] <zuhaitz> current? what number?
[21:52] <goddard> zuhaitz: did you add yourself to the group?
[21:52] <zuhaitz> I am part of the group
[21:52] <zuhaitz> yes I am
[21:52] <cihhan> lordcirth, unfortunately it is a VM on the cloud so I dont have such a luxury :(
[21:52] <lordcirth> cihhan, ah I see
[21:52] <goddard> zuhaitz: i installed version 342 i think
[21:52] <goddard> zuhaitz: it was awhile ago and i dont have that system any moore
[21:52] <erebel55> lordcirth, yeah I forgot the -R when I did the chown on the dir. so my user wasn't owner of the executable
[21:52] <zuhaitz> goddard: ...
[21:52] <zuhaitz> I am getting mad
[21:53] <zuhaitz> intel
[21:53] <zuhaitz> i915 + nouveau
[21:53] <gonui> lordcirth ; are you there ?
[21:53] <zuhaitz> is what I get working
[21:53] <zuhaitz> :(
[21:53] <lordcirth> erebel55, ah, that would do it.  Just be careful with chown or chmod -R, we had a guy earlier break his whole system with them.
[21:53] <cool3> it s so cool that you dont have virus with linux !!
[21:53] <zuhaitz> so then no libcuda no 100% hardware
[21:53] <lordcirth> gonui, hi
[21:54] <erebel55> lordcirth, oh wow, yay it's working now :D seems like systemd should have been able to give me a decent error message for something simple like that tho :/
[21:54] <lordcirth> cool3, Linux is pretty secure, but you still need to be careful.  Do updates when they come out, and don't run random programs from the internet, especially as root :)
[21:54] <Nobgul> cool3: not true at all. Well 1/2 true you have to worry about rootkits etc
[21:54] <lordcirth> erebel55, well, it's more a matter of the program not giving systemd proper error messages, I think.
[21:54] <cihhan> lordcirth, that s why im wondering if there is a way to do it
[21:54] <gonui> lordcirth ; see what happened to " tail -f /var/log/kern.log " after nearly an hour http://paste.ubuntu.com/17157363/
[21:54] <Nobgul> Always a good idea to create a user and run as that and sudo or su when you need to.
[21:55] <lordcirth> gonui, ok, so you're fine.  Should be ok to delete the massive logs.
[21:55] <gonui> lordcirth: only 4 lines where added
[21:55] <cool3> lordcirth, Nobgul yes you have to find trusted sources. rootkits and worms but well it s better than having a windows full of adwares and spywares
[21:55] <cool3> and it run so much faster
[21:55] <lordcirth> cool3, it certainly is.  I just like to warn people not to get careless :)
[21:56] <gonui> lordcirth ; should i delete the whole file kern.log , just emty it ?
[21:56] <erebel55> lordcirth, thanks for all of your help!
[21:56] <cool3> lordcirth, i will follow your wise advice :)
[21:57] <gonui> lordcirth ; what is the command to delete the logs ?
[21:57] <lordcirth> gonui, try running 'sudo /etc/cron.daily/logrotate'
[21:57] <lordcirth> gonui, it should start a new log file, allowing you to delete the old ones safely
[21:58] <olivier> Hello
[21:58] <gonui> lordcirth ; by the way i have in the /var directory two kern.log and kern.log1 , the first is more massive
[21:58] <FManTropyx> when does cron.daily execute?
[21:59] <lordcirth> FManTropyx, well, it should run daily, of course, if enabled.  Not sure what time.
[21:59] <olivier> How do i join another IRC?
[21:59] <lordcirth> olivier, another channel, or server?
[21:59] <Nobgul> Another channel?
[21:59] <olivier> server i think
[21:59] <Nobgul> olivier: /server irc.servername.com
[21:59] <lordcirth> gonui, yeah, and logrotate should move 1 to 2, and your current to 1, and start a new kern.log.
[22:00] <Nobgul> Replace irc.servername.com with the right server address or ip
[22:00] <Nobgul> guess he got it
[22:00] <lordcirth> gonui, did it work?
[22:00] <gonui> lordcirth ; ok what is the command to delete the kern.log from terminal first ?
[22:01] <Nobgul> rm -rf file
[22:01] <lordcirth> Nobgul, no
[22:01] <Nobgul> ?
[22:01] <gonui> lordcirt; " error: error creating output file /var/log/syslog.1.gz: File exists
[22:01] <lordcirth> you do not need either -r or -f
[22:01] <lordcirth> Nobgul, don't get in the habit of throwing those on rm
[22:01] <Nobgul> Old habit always use -rf
[22:01] <LtL> gonui: rm /var/log/kern.log
[22:01] <Nobgul> I know recursive and force
[22:02] <lordcirth> kern1.log, not kern.log
[22:02] <Nobgul> just old habbits
[22:02] <lordcirth> kern.log should be tiny now because of rotate
[22:02] <lordcirth> Nobgul, yeah, otherwise known as "danger" and "more danger".  Try to break the habit :)
[22:03] <Nobgul> lordcirth:not sure how many years now but more then 20 i think been using it
[22:04] <gonui> lordcirth ; do i need to reboot , to notice difference ?
[22:04] <lordcirth> gonui, no
[22:05] <lordcirth> gonui, just delete all the numbered kern#.log and syslog#.log, and you should have lots of space
[22:06] <xafarderr> does anybody use gnome flashback?
[22:06] <lordcirth> If you delete kern.log itself, that won't free any space until you restart the services, ie by rebooting
[22:06] <xafarderr> can't show trash can nor home file on desktop in gnome flashback
[22:13] <hurasafe> hello guys. Can Someone help me installing python oldnumeric?
[22:15] <HadesWatch3r> Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS 4.2 kernel from Wily..  when I use terminal and go apt update ... says nothing ... but software updater says there is stuff and then updates..  ?
[22:16] <moonequito> Trying to get an Ubuntu box with Vagrant and I'm getting a 404 error when it tries to get the box from http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/xenial/current/xenial-server-cloudimg-amd64-vagrant.box
[22:17] <Bashing-om> HadesWatch3r: 2 terminal commands ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' .
[22:17] <HadesWatch3r> tks...
[22:17] <HadesWatch3r> so have to run them both.. ?
[22:17] <HadesWatch3r> always.
[22:18] <Bashing-om> HadesWatch3r: Yeah ,, if it your goal to update the installed softwares .
[22:18] <HadesWatch3r> ok, thank you.
[22:19] <Bashing-om> HadesWatch3r: update to sync the data bases ,, and upgrade to do the package upgrades .
[22:23] <gonui> I have ubuntu 15.04 what is the right way to upgrade ??
[22:24] <k1l_> gonui: run the update-manager if that is a desktop
[22:24] <tgm4883> !eol | gonui
[22:24] <tgm4883> k1l_: those repos should be gone by now
[22:24] <k1l_> that still should find the 15.10 repos and upgrade, iirc
[22:24] <gonui> k1l_; you mean from the Software updater GUI ??
[22:25] <tgm4883> k1l_: hmm, you might be right
[22:25] <k1l_> gonui: press alt+F2, "update-manager"
[22:25] <OerHeks> moonequito, known issue, check out in #vagrant
[22:26] <moonequito> oh, thanks! *heads over to #vagrant*
[22:26] <xmlnewbi> im useing full disk encyption and im trying to find a way to unecrypt it
[22:27] <xmlnewbi> Im only able to open it via the live book disk. and all my installs cant access it. Im woried im going to loose the data if I keep messing around with it
[22:27] <gonui> k1l_; am running an update in 15.04 now when it finish i will press upgrade ..
[22:28] <xmlnewbi> I keep reading its impossible to remove full disk encryption is that true?
[22:29] <OerHeks> xmlnewbi, the fastest way is to create a new user without encryption and transfer files, i don't know any way to decrypt and keep the files
[22:29] <dax> OerHeks: full disk encryption, not home-directory encryption
[22:29] <dax> but yes, you want to move the stuff you want to keep somewhere else and then reinstall
[22:29] <OerHeks> xmlnewbi, dax oh, my bad
[22:29] <xmlnewbi> its 400gigs and my second drive is only 120gig arg
[22:30] <xmlnewbi> it is full disk encryption, ugh
[22:30] <xmlnewbi> is repairing bootloaders on an encrypted system drive really that risky. the boot repair tool keeps telling me to backup
[22:36] <chiluk> what would be the best way to prevent my machine from suspending on critically low battery?
[22:36] <user2635> > If I've done make install and make for a particular package, how do I backtrack the changes? (i'm a newbie who just followed a guide, now want to clean things up)
[22:36] <chiluk> basically I've got a broken battery which reports 0% power, but in fact has plenty.
[22:36] <TBotNik> All, Trying to fix problem I posted at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5558619#post5558619
[22:40] <lordcirth_> chiluk, search "power" in dash, that should find the settings I think
[22:41] <DGMurdockIII> is there any api or source code for the http://paste.ubuntu.com/?
[22:42] <user2635> Does mv move hidden files too if I do /directory/*? If not, how do I do it?
[22:43] <lordcirth_> user2635, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/89749/cp-hidden-files-with-glob-patterns#89753
[22:43] <Player_> How do I add another user with sudo access to an Ubuntu server?  Specifically, what groups does a user need to have the same permissions as the default (non-root) account?
[22:43] <Comnenus> Probably a stupid question.  I have to boot the installer in EFI mode for it to create a 4TB partition, right?
[22:44] <lordcirth_> user2635, you could use the output of `ls -A` IF there are no special characters or spaces in filenames
[22:44] <lordcirth_> Player_, adding them to group 'sudo' should do
[22:44] <Player_> lordcirth_, so none of the other groups are necessary?
[22:45] <user2635> lordcirth_, thanks
[22:45] <lordcirth_> Player_, the others may be useful.  However if they have sudo they could grant themselves the others if needed.
[22:54] <user2635> Is there a way to save the text from a terminal session? So I have a log of what I did?
[22:54] <lordcirth_> user2635, bash already does that.  Run 'history'
[22:54] <user2635> Other than using the mouse to select everything from top to bottom and copy+paste
[22:54] <sadlee> user 2635 it's in history
[22:54] <lordcirth_> However, it only saves commands, not results
[22:54] <user2635> i'm also talking about results
[22:54] <lordcirth> There is a program to record that too, one sec
[22:55] <user2635> basically at this stage, i have to manually copy
[22:55] <user2635> but for next time, I have to remember the program
[22:55] <lordcirth> user2635, here: http://www.linuxnix.com/record-terminalshell-session-linux/
[22:55] <chiluk> lordcirth: wasn't going to be that simple.. as what to do on critical power is greyed out in the power settings tool
[22:55] <nacc> user2635: typescript (`script` command)
[22:55] <chiluk> lordcirth:    i ended up doing this.  http://askubuntu.com/questions/378440/how-to-avoid-shutdown-on-critical-battery
[22:56] <lordcirth> chiluk, glad you found a solution
[22:56] <lordcirth> nacc, yeah, that's what I just linked him
[22:56] <user2635> in that case, is there a shortcut for me to Select All on the current terminal session
[22:57] <user2635> that way i don't have to use my mouse to drag and select the whole text
[22:57] <user2635> shortcut key*
[22:58] <lordcirth> I'm not aware of one
[22:58] <user2635> its alright
[22:59] <user2635> I just did shift + home, then used my mouse to select everything
[23:02] <sadlee> There are some almost there solutions here user2635 http://superuser.com/questions/357248/how-to-copy-the-terminal-output
[23:03] <sadlee> I used to listen to the badapples podcast and thought I remembered Klaatu talking about an alternative terminal that could do it, but I never followed up. I'm not really abash buff
[23:04] <user2635> sadlee, thanks
[23:04] <user2635> I'll just copy paste for now, the other solutions don't seem newbie friendly
[23:05] <user2635> Is there an advantage to using just the terminal for file management?
[23:05] <user2635> I don't know if I should go extreme and just ditch my gui file manager
[23:05] <HackerII> noobie or not, linux makes men out of anybody.
[23:05] <user2635> HackerII, lmao
[23:05] <lordcirth> user2635, well, it helps you get familiar with it.  Just be careful, there is no "recycle bin" on the command line.
[23:05] <lordcirth> I do most of my file management from the command line now.
[23:06] <user2635> lordcirth, true, I forgot that point
[23:06] <lordcirth> rm is rm, and that's that.
[23:06] <lordcirth> Unless you have snapshots :)
[23:06] <user2635> I don't have snapshops
[23:06] <user2635> I don't have snapshots
[23:07] <sadlee> If you use I prefer pcmanfm - you get a gui and the baility to drop into the cli right there where you are
[23:07] <HackerII> when your intimidated, you lose your cool, its all about mindset.
[23:07] <sadlee> My  typos were crazy there. Hope that made just enough sense :)
[23:08] <R13ose> How do I get rid of the clicking sound of the mouse?
[23:08] <HackerII> sound prefs
[23:08] <HackerII> you had turn it on
[23:08] <HackerII> turn it off
[23:09] <user2635> sadlee, i'll look into it later thanks
[23:09] <hurasafe> hello
[23:09] <hurasafe> can someone teach me how to register?
[23:10] <R13ose> HackerII: which prefs?
[23:10] <OerHeks> hurasafe, register where ?
[23:10] <hurasafe> on the #python channel
[23:10] <HackerII> ! register | hurasafe
[23:10] <sadlee> You mean with Nickserv ?
[23:10] <OerHeks> oh freenode, see ubottu
[23:11] <R13ose> HackerII: Which sound prefs do I turn off?
[23:11] <HackerII> R13ose: system/prefs/sound
[23:11] <HackerII> on the bottom
[23:11] <HackerII> aka, "make noises when i use anything"
[23:13] <R13ose> HackerII: I don't see that "make noises when i use anything"
[23:13] <hurasafe>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER hurasafe xqofvqxtisrj
[23:13] <HackerII> wow, it was paraphrased,
[23:14] <HackerII> R13ose:  uncheck, enable window and button sounds
[23:14] <lordcirth> hurasafe, 1: don't do that here in channel, and 2: don't put a space in front.
[23:15] <HackerII> hurasafe:  change the passwrd, and do it in a pvt window
[23:15] <hurasafe> lordcirth, sorry. I'm new to this
[23:15] <Myrtti> HackerII: it wasn't a password
[23:15] <R13ose> HackerII: I don't see anything like that.
[23:15] <HackerII> use your own nick as a personal window
[23:15] <HackerII> ok, ic
[23:16] <HackerII> R13ose:  if you are using unity, it may be different, i have never used unity.
[23:16] <R13ose> HackerII: yep unity.
[23:17] <HackerII> R13ose:  it may be different, i am old school and have never used unity, my apologies.
[23:18] <R13ose> Anyone else have ideas?
[23:18] <HackerII> R13ose:  search sound properties in a search
[23:19] <Cykrix> anyone around who can help me with my nvidia card crashing? I had it fixed before I reset it but i forgot how I did it originally :|
[23:19] <Cykrix> i had to update it to something
[23:20] <OerHeks> clicking sound mouse .. maybe your mouse is loud, not speakers at all .. i cannot find such setting
[23:20] <R13ose> HackerII: I only see the sound system prefs
[23:20] <OerHeks> not under systemsettings > sound or accessibility
[23:21] <HackerII> its there
[23:22] <R13ose> HackerII: where?
[23:22] <Cykrix> the lsmod shows nouveau if that helps;
[23:22] <R13ose> OerHeks: I don't see this there.
[23:23] <OerHeks> R13ose, me neither
[23:23] <lordcirth> Nor do I, on 15.10
[23:23] <OerHeks> oh, i am on 15.10 too ..
[23:23] <R13ose> I am on 16.04
[23:24] <rp2> hello, word
[23:24] <rp2> I'm thinking of trying to create my first even Ubuntu package in an effort to save my favourite piece of abandonware
[23:25] <rp2> so now I'm looking for all packages with similar build dependencies
[23:25] <rp2> how do I do that?
[23:25] <R13ose> I will not click my mouse during the audio calls until this is figured out.
[23:26] <OerHeks> rp2, so what are the build dependencies of your aboandonware?
[23:26] <HackerII> R13ose:  couldnt tell you on 16.04, many things have changes, could also be a  bug, who knows.
[23:27] <sudo_rm-rf> Hi everybody, someone can help me with Remastersys?
[23:27] <HackerII> R13ose:  i use mate, and its the same config, it should be in frefs/sound, if not, maybe there is something out of the ordinary.'
[23:28]  * HackerII anyway, on the px brb
[23:29] <R13ose> mate?
[23:29] <rp2> OerHeks, well, it's a C++ application, and I just created the list of packages the dynamic libraries it depends on are in ... that's a good list to start with
[23:29] <winston2k> Mate desktop
[23:29] <rp2> so once I have a binary package, it will certainly depend on those packages
[23:29] <R13ose> oh
[23:30] <winston2k> im using it
[23:30] <rp2> so now I'd like to find example packages that depend on these (and as few as possible) so I can apt-get source them and use them as 'inspiration' for building my own
[23:30] <rp2> mmm
[23:31] <nacc> rp2: note that build and runtime dependencies are (possibly) different
[23:31] <OerHeks> rp2 not sure how to search through 30K+ packages with apt-cache rdepends ..
[23:31] <lordcirth> HackerII, mate desktop is a fork of gnome 2, isn't it?  Unity + Gnome 3 is pretty different
[23:31] <nacc> rp2: reverse-depends <pkgname> or apt-cache rdepends <pkgname>
[23:31] <OerHeks> what is the use of knowing the dependencies of other packages?
[23:31] <nacc> rp2: but that's not normally how one would go about this
[23:32] <user2635> how do I undo a make install or a make
[23:32] <rp2> why not? there is no Debian package
[23:32] <rp2> user2635, that is not usually supported
[23:32] <OerHeks> !build | user2635
[23:33] <nacc> rp2: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html or https://wiki.debian.org/HowToPackageForDebian
[23:33] <rp2> what you can do is redo it, then list all the files that have just changed with find
[23:33] <ines_> salut
[23:33] <lordcirth> user2635, you can't generally undo 'make install' but 'make clean' can undo the 'make'
[23:33] <user2635> lordcirth, great...
[23:33] <rp2> yes, I'm reading the first already
[23:33] <nacc> rp2: the first seems highly bzr specific, which isn't necessary
[23:33] <user2635> lordcirth, then i've just messed up my syste
[23:33] <user2635> lordcirth, system
[23:34] <HackerII> lordcirth:  mate is for those of us that are used to what linux waa back in the day.
[23:34] <sudo_rm-rf> sorry guys for the disturb but i need help with remastersys if somebody know that
[23:34] <lordcirth> HackerII, I'm a fan of dwm myself.  Though not running it at the moment
[23:34] <user2635> lordcirth, whats the best way to clean things up? is it too late?
[23:35] <HackerII> as far as 16.04, maybe its a test, who knows, i have 16.04 loaded, with mate, works like a clock.
[23:35] <lordcirth> user2635, not sure, other people here can probably help tho
[23:35] <OerHeks> sudo_rm-rf, Remastersys is no longer supported, actually
[23:35] <HackerII> the only thing that lacked, and was repaired was intels graphics driver.
[23:36] <rp2> nacc, I want to use Git locally and put it on GitHub when finished (if ever)
[23:36] <rp2> user2635, you can redo the make install step and identify all the files that have been written
[23:36] <user2635> rp2 and then rm?
[23:37] <rp2> then make a list of packages to which those files belong and reinstall those
[23:37] <rp2> you should never run make install as root in the first place
[23:37] <HackerII> its hard to compliment new users to the modern format, you have to be patient and familiar with its config before you denegate any form of direction.
[23:37] <rp2> to avoid exactly this situation
[23:37] <user2635> rp2... great..
[23:37] <user2635> newbie mistake
[23:37] <rp2> yeah
[23:37] <rp2> mistakes are so you learn :)
[23:38] <rp2> otherwise we'd all be newbies forever (not that I don't usually feel that way)
[23:38] <nacc> rp2: just create an empty repository and follow the steps from the deiban wiki, most likely
[23:38] <nacc> *debian
[23:38] <user2635> rp2, so if I do make install again.. I note down all the packages and reinstall?
[23:38] <user2635> I'm a bit confused
[23:39] <HackerII> I will say this, when ubuntu completes its objective, apple will be another log gone fad, i am quite now.
[23:39] <rp2> if I want to use a PPA for my own package, is Launchpad really the one place to put it?
[23:39] <nacc> rp2: PPAs are by definition on launchpad, afaik
[23:39] <rp2> ok
[23:39] <rp2> no reason to look for anything else?
[23:40] <rp2> I just want to do the most obvious thing here, being new to it
[23:40] <teward> rp2: you can always create your own package repository, but PPAs are Launchpad only, for the most part
[23:40] <teward> unless you create your own package repository elsewhere
[23:40] <teward> but you have to build your packages yourself to achieve that
[23:40] <rp2> Ok great to know, thanks!
[23:40] <nacc> rp2: it sounds like you would be fine with a PPA, or possibly getting your package into universe eventually
[23:41] <rp2> well ... one problem is I've never done any C development beyond 100 lines of code
[23:41] <rp2> and this really is a C++ application
[23:41] <rp2> sorry I mean C++ development
[23:42] <rp2> so I'm secretly hoping for someone else to pick it up
[23:42] <rp2> and meanwhile I just want an easy way to install it on my own systems
[23:42] <R13ose> OerHeks: does the mouse sound happen to you?
[23:42] <rp2> I guess with your info I have all I need to get started, thanks again!
[23:43] <OerHeks> R13ose, no, i am on 15.10
[23:44] <HackerII> R13ose:  you turned it on somewhere, it comes silent from the factory
[23:44] <nacc> rp2: you might want to just look `checkinstall`
[23:44] <R13ose> HackerII: Maybe but what did I click
[23:45] <rp2> nacc, wow, looks promising
[23:45] <HackerII> stop clicking things and backtrack, search souns prefs,
[23:45] <HackerII> sounds
[23:45] <HackerII> its there, you once clicked it
[23:46] <OerHeks> R13ose, maybe it is not in sound settings, but accessability ??
[23:46] <HackerII> could B
[23:46] <HackerII> well said
[23:46] <R13ose> OerHeks: I looked there but nothing was on in my settings
[23:47] <HackerII> log in and back out, see if it disappears
[23:47] <HackerII> reverse. whatever
[23:48] <R13ose> This happened last time too
[23:48] <HackerII> is this a acer machine ?
[23:48] <R13ose> yes
[23:48] <HackerII> D`oh!
[23:48] <HackerII> hahaha
[23:48] <HackerII> have a nice day
[23:48] <R13ose> why?
[23:49] <HackerII> log out and back in
[23:49] <HackerII> wait
[23:49] <R13ose> I am on an audio call can't
[23:49] <HackerII> alsamixer  in terminal, turn sounds down
[23:50] <HackerII> actually, for you, install QASmixer and control it from there
[23:50] <HackerII> have fun, im out.
[23:51] <R13ose> thaanks
[23:56] <Grug_> hi