| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> o/ | 07:01 |
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| acheronuk | Morning | 07:07 |
| acheronuk | Why does this not exist? http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_stable_kio/ or http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_stable_kio/ | 07:08 |
| acheronuk | same for some other basic things early in the build chain for 'stable' | 07:09 |
| acheronuk | then get things in KCI like baloo failing to build in stable as build-deps can't be met | 07:11 |
| acheronuk | Daily ISO seems installable again LP: 1587555 & LP: 1577540 | 07:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1587555 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Installer crashed during installation" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1587555 | 07:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1577540 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Yakkety) "ubi-console-setup failing on yakkety images" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1577540 | 07:35 |
| yofel | acheronuk: there is no "stable" for frameworks because they don't get any bugfix releases | 07:47 |
| yofel | nobody of use seems to get how they get copied from unstable though | 07:48 |
| acheronuk | so kio here https://launchpad.net/%7Ekubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/stable/+packages?field.name_filter=kio&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= | 07:52 |
| vip | hi ho | 07:52 |
| vip | any way to dpg -i some bleeding edge kmail package? | 07:53 |
| vip | I'm starting to hate current kmail version :-( | 07:53 |
| acheronuk | yofel: is destined to stay at 5.19 for xenial and absent from yakkety, and instead depend on whatever point release goes into the main archive instead? | 07:54 |
| yofel | acheronuk: no, CI should be using CI packages - that doesn't seem to work though | 07:54 |
| acheronuk | "yofel> nobody of use seems to get how they get copied from unstable though" I'm trying to | 07:54 |
| yofel | OTOH, for stable the regular packages might make sense... | 07:55 |
| yofel | sitter: what was the intention here? ^ | 07:55 |
| acheronuk | yes, I was going back and forth between the 2 in my mind | 07:55 |
| acheronuk | as said, I noticed a fait amount reasonable early on in the build chain was failing with dep issues | 07:56 |
| acheronuk | *fair | 07:56 |
| acheronuk | and found there were not jobs/tasks (or whatever term KCI uses) for some of those deps | 08:00 |
| sitter | yofel: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kio/32/console -> "15:29:49 Not doing a package copy because the component is not "frameworks" nor is the name whitelisted ["qca-qt5", "qapt", "debconf-kde"]" | 08:12 |
| yofel | aaaaaaah | 08:12 |
| yofel | thanks | 08:12 |
| sitter | a selection of unstable builds are copied from unstable into stable upon success | 08:12 |
| sitter | notibly the ones without a stable version | 08:12 |
| yofel | and component depends on the namespace? | 08:13 |
| clivejo | sitter: <yofel> and component depends on the namespace? | 09:42 |
| sitter | I don't know what a namespace is | 09:43 |
| sitter | component is the release package a thing is in, which loosely translates to the directory of the repo on git.debian | 09:43 |
| sitter | s/package/set | 09:44 |
| yofel | sitter: yes, I meant the repo directory | 09:48 |
| clivejo | that explains a few things :) | 09:49 |
| clivejo | sitter: can they be classifed within Jenkins rather that picking it up from the dir on Debian git? | 09:50 |
| sitter | I don't see how you would do that in jenkins given jenkins is a passive actor WRT job construction. but sure, with sufficient amounts of code you can do anything | 09:54 |
| clivejo | holy cow | 10:04 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy all | 10:07 |
| yofel | actually... | 11:55 |
| yofel | isn't the component specification also stored in kdesrc-metadata or however that's called? | 11:56 |
| yofel | I really wonder why we're not using that at all | 11:56 |
| yofel | clivejo: out of curiosity: did you manage to register for the eu referendum? ^^ | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | does anyone remember the kde-l10n script we used to packge the l10n stuffs? | 13:22 |
| shadeslayer | ah nvm | 13:24 |
| clivejo | yofel: manage to register? | 14:04 |
| yofel | clivejo: just read an article about how the registration website for being able to vote didn't work 2 days ago or so. But that seemed more about generally unregistered people | 14:07 |
| acheronuk | if you were already on the electoral role there was no need | 14:07 |
| acheronuk | *roll | 14:08 |
| clivejo | yeah, doesn’t surprise me with eGov services, but I’m already on the electoral roll | 14:10 |
| acheronuk | "Users reported a page displaying the message "504 Gateway Time-out" instead of the online registration form." | 14:10 |
| clivejo | LOL I was getting that trying to do my self assessment | 14:12 |
| clivejo | but then I do tend to leave it to the last minute | 14:13 |
| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> o/ | 14:22 |
| acheronuk | hmm. daily iso still has plasma-desktop 4:5.5.5-0ubuntu1 http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/yakkety-desktop-amd64.manifest | 15:25 |
| clivejo | thats weird | 15:26 |
| acheronuk | 5.6.4 still in proposed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/ | 15:27 |
| * clivejo rolls eyes | 15:33 | |
| acheronuk | kactivities blocking it? I can't recall to be honest | 15:38 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: enabling proposed http://paste.ubuntu.com/17174183/ | 16:02 |
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| soee | http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-foldable-phones-coming-soon-697791/ | 17:13 |
| soee | i have this feeling it will be like a to hot candy bar in the pocked :) | 17:13 |
| acheronuk | sounds about as good an idea as 'wobbly windows' | 17:15 |
| clivejo | anyone dev'ing/hacking? | 19:33 |
| yofel | playing with containers using one eye, watching soccer with the other :P | 19:35 |
| clivejo | thats multitasking! | 19:35 |
| clivejo | has anyone else tested apps 16.04.1 | 19:39 |
| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> Waiting for backports ;) | 19:40 |
| clivejo | push the button Marcin | 19:40 |
| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> You can do it! :D | 19:44 |
| clivejo | I cant | 19:45 |
| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> Have faith :) | 19:45 |
| clivejo | its against my religion | 19:45 |
| IrcsomeBot | <marcinsagol> Having faith in own skills? | 19:46 |
| clivejo | look and plan to the future | 19:46 |
| clivejo | learn from the past | 19:46 |
| clivejo | 16.04 is past, 16.10 is future | 19:47 |
| acheronuk | keep seeing 'package-must-activate-ldconfig-trigger' on KCI failures, and for a lot are listed as overridden here https://lintian.debian.org/tags/package-must-activate-ldconfig-trigger.html | 20:01 |
| acheronuk | and neo has overrides | 20:02 |
| acheronuk | *neon | 20:02 |
| clivejo | I wonder can those be actually fixed somehow | 20:03 |
| acheronuk | other than adding a lintian override you mean? | 20:04 |
| clivejo | yeah, it must be warning for something | 20:05 |
| acheronuk | sgclark's comment https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kded/5.22.0-0ubuntu1 | 20:07 |
| clivejo | yeah we can override it, but Debian warns for a reason | 20:08 |
| acheronuk | many which they override, so obviously consider spurious or not worth fixing | 20:09 |
| sgclark | ? | 20:11 |
| acheronuk | sorry, I just referred clive to a comment you made on lintian overrides, and used your IRC name without thinking | 20:12 |
| sgclark | clivejo: acheronuk if those are about kdeinit* overrides, nothing can fix, those are very special as sitter put it | 20:12 |
| sgclark | no worries | 20:13 |
| clivejo | very special | 20:13 |
| yofel | I think the point is that they're actually plugins for kdeinit, so get explicitely loaded without having to be in the so cache | 20:13 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: point was neon have put them in for things like http://packaging.neon.kde.org/cgit/plasma/kactivitymanagerd.git/tree/debian/kactivitymanagerd.lintian-overrides | 20:15 |
| acheronuk | but I don't have the rationale behind such a decisionhttp://packaging.neon.kde.org/cgit/plasma/kactivitymanagerd.git/tree/debian/kactivitymanagerd.lintian-overrides | 20:16 |
| acheronuk | even ones like Kcalc are filing on them http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kcalc/37/parsed_console/ | 20:17 |
| acheronuk | *failing | 20:17 |
| acheronuk | neon again overrides http://packaging.neon.kde.org/cgit/applications/kcalc.git/tree/debian/kcalc.lintian-overrides | 20:19 |
| clivejo | acheronuk: feel free to submit merge requests to fix them :) | 20:19 |
| yofel | acheronuk: the system has a library cache so libs can be loaded fast when needed. Normal libs that are properly versioned etc. get recognised as such and dpkg automatically adds that trigger. | 20:23 |
| yofel | There here are plugins for plasma though, and don't get properly recognised as libs - as they are not proper libs | 20:24 |
| clivejo | non proper libs | 20:24 |
| yofel | IMO these files should not be in the public library path - which would solve the issue as dpkg wouldn't care about them. But nobody upsteam seems to care | 20:24 |
| acheronuk | so that is lintian is warning that "this may not be recognised"? | 20:26 |
| yofel | yep. But in our case it doesn't matter | 20:27 |
| yofel | just an annoying false positive | 20:28 |
| acheronuk | so from what yopu say should be overidden for these ones? | 20:28 |
| yofel | yes | 20:28 |
| acheronuk | yes got that. I was slower typing than you | 20:28 |
| yofel | ^^ | 20:28 |
| acheronuk | great. if I understand the logic of the override in this case, that makes me happier | 20:29 |
| acheronuk | clivejo: yes, I can go over likely candidates tomorrow and sort changes/merges for them | 20:32 |
| * acheronuk is tired | 20:34 | |
| clivejo | rough day? | 20:34 |
| acheronuk | not really. just think not quite enough sleep with warm/humid nights eventually catches up with you | 20:36 |
| acheronuk | weekend will set it right I'm sure | 20:36 |
| clivejo | yeah this weather is draining | 20:36 |
| clivejo | KCI seems to be very slow today | 20:40 |
| clivejo | still 200 packages in the queue | 20:40 |
| acheronuk | plenty to do without | 20:43 |
| Sput | sitter, ScottK: would you guys object against moving the man page you have written for kubuntu into our repo proper? | 20:49 |
| Sput | I mean it's GPLv2+, but it's fair to ask anyway :) | 20:49 |
| ScottK | Sput: please do | 20:52 |
| Sput | ScottK: thx! | 20:54 |
| clivejo | what man page? | 21:03 |
| yofel | quassel I assume | 21:04 |
| clivejo | ah | 21:08 |
| acheronuk | urgh. if I need something to finish off sending me to sleep, the debian policy manual looks an excellent candidate | 21:10 |
| clivejo | yofel: as a temp measure could we kopy frameworks from unstable to stable PPA? | 21:16 |
| jimarvan | helloz :D | 21:53 |
| jimarvan | anything exciting? | 21:53 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Sick_Rimmit> Hey there jimarvan | 21:53 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Sick_Rimmit> I'm just chillin mostly | 21:53 |
| jimarvan | gn! ;) | 23:09 |
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