davidcalle | Morning o/ | 07:38 |
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popey | yo | 07:43 |
popey | pleia2: knome have asked IS to re-use https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-community-wiki-editors (given it already exists and has knome as an admin) for wiki editorship. We can add admins to that as appropriate. | 14:55 |
popey | Made sense to re-use that as it's already used for that purpose, rather than make a whole other team | 14:55 |
pleia2 | popey: please don't, that's a special team that the documentation team has a process for joining | 15:37 |
pleia2 | it allows rename and delete, which are admin tasks that we don't grant to everyone | 15:38 |
pleia2 | edits aren't recoverable, so we really, really need to trust the folks we give that admin power to | 15:39 |
pleia2 | s/edits/deletes | 15:40 |
popey | ah | 15:41 |
popey | bum | 15:41 |
popey | sorry | 15:42 |
pleia2 | it's ok, I guess I was unclear, I thought we had discussed creating a new team | 15:42 |
popey | will let them know | 15:42 |
pleia2 | thanks | 15:42 |
popey | we did, and i requested that, but they found that one and it seemed good, no worries, we'll get there 😃 | 15:42 |
pleia2 | if you read the description of that launchpad team it links to joining criteria, which we've been pretty strict about (which is why there are only 7 members :)) | 15:44 |
pleia2 | and now, off to work! | 15:45 |
popey | o/ | 15:45 |
knome | popey, what exactly would be the criteria to join this new group? | 16:25 |
knome | people have suggested that the requirement level would be something between the ubuntu membership and the ubuntu-etherpad team membership, and that sounds about right, but leaves a lot of space for interpretations | 16:27 |
popey | I think we can work that out, but basically someone who is looking to become a member (because this blocks them) or someone who has some obvious track record of contribution | 16:27 |
popey | yes | 16:27 |
popey | +100 | 16:27 |
knome | what we should do is to get as many sensibly moderated contributor teams as subteams... | 16:30 |
knome | for example, the xubuntu team very moderated, and there's no reason why everybody there shouldn't get the edit permissions | 16:30 |
knome | and by adding subteams we ultimately help ourselves with individual moderation | 16:31 |
knome | but of course, this can't be "every team there is" as it would again open up a lot of possibilities for spammers to be included | 16:31 |
popey | I would be exceptionally cautious of adding _any_ team at all to this one. | 16:40 |
popey | At least to start. | 16:41 |
popey | Given ~ubuntumembers and ~canonical are on it. | 16:41 |
knome | my gut feeling says any team that grants upload permissions to the archive should be safe to include at least... | 16:42 |
popey | Perhaps. Some careful thought needed. Maybe we should make an etherpad with a list we think might be useful. | 16:43 |
popey | Need to be super careful that they're all teams that people can't self-join or coerce people to join | 16:43 |
popey | I agree ones like core dev which are quite nailed down seem like good candidates | 16:43 |
knome | indeed, all the teams included should be moderated | 16:43 |
knome | and not only moderated technically, but socially too | 16:44 |
pleia2 | czajkowski: glad I'm not the only one doing two talks about ubucon eu :) | 17:25 |
pleia2 | s/about/at | 17:25 |
tsimonq2 | pleia2: you are going to UbuCon Europe? \o/ | 17:37 |
pleia2 | tsimonq2: yes :) | 17:39 |
tsimonq2 | pleia2: I hope to be there too :) | 17:39 |
pleia2 | great | 17:39 |
popey | yay | 17:46 |
popey | Looking forward to that, a bunch of people are going | 17:53 |
popey | a bunch of /cool/ people are going | 17:53 |
popey | and me! | 17:53 |
pleia2 | haha popey <3 | 17:54 |
popey | might get an opportunity to go out for one of those beers I saw photos of in your stream recently pleia2 :) | 17:55 |
pleia2 | \o/ | 17:56 |
pleia2 | the only time I've been to germany I was on schedule to get my gallbladder removed so I couldn't drink D: | 17:56 |
Kilos | ouch | 17:57 |
pleia2 | it was indeed sad | 17:57 |
pleia2 | but I did learn that darmstadt had a booming in house root beer brewing trend, so that was nice :) | 17:57 |
Kilos | hehe | 17:57 |
popey | ooooooo | 17:59 |
popey | i looooove root beer | 17:59 |
wxl | i quit alcohol but i adore a good handcrafted soda | 18:02 |
wxl | i got this caramel cola the other day that was sublime | 18:02 |
pleia2 | that does sound interesting | 18:03 |
wxl | http://www.amazon.com/Retro-Brownie-Caramel-Cream-Root/dp/B009YN8BQO%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-d-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB009YN8BQO | 18:04 |
wxl | ugh come on amazon | 18:05 |
popey | oooh | 18:32 |
popey | There's a few people in the Ubuntu community who are fans of boutique colas. ikonia and directhex spring to mind | 18:38 |
* wxl creates ~ubuntu-soda-jerks | 18:40 | |
wxl | (not really) | 18:40 |
tsimonq2 | XD | 19:18 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: ever have bacon soda? | 19:18 |
tsimonq2 | popey: could somebody with access clarify http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/support/irc/ to indicate that #ubuntu-us isn't used pretty much at all anymore? | 21:01 |
popey | probably someone in the US should confirm that | 21:07 |
knome | pleia2? | 21:08 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: can you confirm the above? | 21:09 |
popey | I would imagine a brief look at the logs would reveal that :) | 21:10 |
popey | (if it was logged) | 21:11 |
knome | but it isn't :P | 21:11 |
tsimonq2 | I have logs | 21:11 |
wxl | i didn't even know it was a thing | 21:11 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: yeah, I thought the US team was one thing at one point? | 21:11 |
wxl | yeah well so were a lot of things :) | 21:12 |
tsimonq2 | :) | 21:12 |
tsimonq2 | wxl: so would it be safe to say that we should NOT recommend it? | 21:12 |
tsimonq2 | like on http://community.ubuntu.com/contribute/support/irc/ | 21:13 |
wxl | i think it might be wise, but i don't know | 21:13 |
pleia2 | knome: people come by about twice a year to ask for help with their state-based loco, so I keep it open and lurk in there, but the project itself isn't proactively doing work anymore | 21:41 |
pleia2 | and it's not a general support channel, it's specific to loco work | 21:41 |
knome | mhm | 21:51 |
knome | isn't the idea of loco support a different language anyway | 21:51 |
knome | well, mostly.. | 21:51 |
popey | not really | 21:57 |
knome | the support aspect of it | 21:57 |
popey | the uk loco is mostly offtopic, and a bunch of support from known people and randoms | 21:57 |
popey | for some reason international people find the uk loco channel very easily and get support there | 21:58 |
popey | we often point them at #ubuntu of course | 21:58 |
popey | but our loco does a fair amount of support | 21:58 |
knome | i understand that there are some potential local(e) issues, but for the most part, it's just normal questions in the local language | 21:58 |
popey | i guess uk is different because en_gb.. | 21:59 |
knome | sure; what i mean that the main reason to point people to say #ubuntu-fr is the support in french | 21:59 |
knome | so if somebody comes asking for help in #ubuntu in english, there is no real need to point them to the UK channel even if they are from the uk... | 21:59 |
popey | indeed | 22:00 |
knome | so that's probably why #ubuntu-us isn't high traffic :) | 22:00 |
knome | at least partly... | 22:00 |
knome | especially as there are those state channels | 22:00 |
knome | it's kind of similar to #ubuntu-nordic... which is REALLY quiet | 22:01 |
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