[00:00] i could of swore i saw a google drive install somewhere [00:00] thefanclub has a google drive install [00:01] there's one for Gnome [00:01] so it ought to be possible [00:01] meygahmann: there's a project for you, backport the Gnome 3 stuff that works in Unity, to MATE [00:05] i mean i remember actually seeing in something i clicked on [00:05] i just cant remember where === gotroot is now known as __CoolGuy [00:25] has anyone installed drop box? [01:00] hello :) [01:00] anyone installed drop box? [01:10] ah i figured it out [02:10] join [02:10] hey [02:10] I'm on my raspberry pi 3 with 16.04 Ubuntu Mate :) [02:11] with the 7inch touchscreen. works great [02:12] can anyone see my messages? [02:12] damn irc chat never works... [02:14] it works [02:15] i can see your text fine [02:15] with the 7inch touchscreen. works great [02:15] can anyone see my messages? [02:15] damn irc chat never works... [02:15] zzzz [02:16] ah thanks nomic :) ha ha [02:16] yw. [02:16] going to use this raspberry pi 3 as touchscreen router and vpn server [02:25] anyone doing any fun projects with mate and raspberry pi 3? [02:25] * nomic using them as pcs [02:25] 100% [02:25] martin wimpress !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [02:25] sweet, for a company or for personal pleasure? [02:26] whats martin wimpress? [02:26] what the fuck happend with mate on archlinux [02:26] what the hell happend [02:26] how long we have to wait for mate 1.14.1 [02:27] not sure, but im in love with ubuntu again now that mate is here [02:27] fuck i want mate on archlinux [02:27] mate gtk3 [02:28] there is mate for debian sid [02:28] and ubuntu [02:28] and archlinux is fucked [02:29] hmm [02:29] FUCK ubuNTu MARtiN WiMPRESS Do YOuR JOB [02:29] is this a rant chat channel? [02:30] :-/ [02:30] A LOT OF PEOPLE USES MATE ON ARCH LINUX [02:31] COMMON [02:33] UBUNTU MATE SUCKS [02:33] WE WANT MATE GTK3 [02:34] I love it [02:34] ubuntu mate rocks [02:35] Best linux distro I've tried [02:35] i love ubuntu mate on my raspberry pi 3 - rockin it with this touchscreen :) [02:35] 16.04 that is [02:35] yes 16.04 [02:35] I DONTNT WANT UBUNTU MATE [02:35] I WANT MATE ON ARCHLNUX [02:36] rollappuser, you sound grumpy, why come into a ubuntu MATE chat IRC and vent? [02:36] Most def easy to install and use [02:36] yes, i will get another raspberry pi 3 and 7inch touchscreen. Use them as mini computers for the family [02:36] OK so why don't you install it on Arch Linux then? [02:37] lol that guy was trolling pretty hard [02:37] awesome [02:37] he was lol [02:37] damn trolls, didn't know they still existed in 2016 [02:37] omg have you visited any forums lately [02:37] or read the comments in any news story lol [02:37] i have not lol. I go to reddit but only read top sections [02:38] actually I haven't seen much trolling in reddit [02:38] lol, i try to stay away from facebook comments [02:38] yeah that's a good policy probably [02:38] seems like sites like espn and such want you to comment with your facebook account [02:38] @drowsygenius do you have any issues with heat on the Raspi 3 running Mate ? [02:39] actually i'm just trying Ubuntu Mate for the first time [02:39] and I have to say it is freaking awesome [02:39] um i did have issues with heat until i doubled up my copper heatsink [02:39] runs way better than Ubuntu with Unity for me [02:39] Ah ! Thanks ! [02:39] i can tell you my heat ready - just a sec, i love my new ir thermometer gun [02:39] I'm running it on a virtual machine with 1 CPU, 2 gigs of ram, 32 megs of video ram and it works awesome [02:40] drowsygenius, everyone wants you to use your facebook account nowadays [02:40] ok, so with one copper heatsink i was getting 61C and the heat warning, with 2 heatsinks im sitting pretty at 50c [02:40] nice rlared [02:40] Very nice ! [02:41] i notice, ubuntu mate on raspberry pi 3 defaults 64megs of vram - havent looked into how to change allotment [02:41] *noticed [02:42] I have to pick up a few Raspi #'s I have a few B+'s and 2's [02:42] I'd like a 3 [02:42] def gonna settle with Ubuntu Mate for my python and C programming learning adventure :D [02:42] ah ok. I will test this ubuntu mate on my pi 2. I know my pi 2 generates less heat but I hope it wont be slow [02:42] heck ya man [02:43] im revisiting python and getting into SQL for a job internship [02:43] yeah, but the 3 has more cores and more RAM no ? [02:44] pi 3 has same number of cores, it runs a faster clock and optimized architecture, [02:44] that's cool. i learned some C++ back in the day but my job has nothing to do with programming [02:44] Ah! yes yes faster clock [02:44] i just want to learn it for fun and then maybe work on some open source project or something [02:44] so rlared, do you think you my venture into computer programming as a career? [02:45] pi 3 = 1.20ghz | pi 2 = 900mhz [02:45] ha so funny we just decided to do senior design with raspberry pi 3 and 7" screen [02:45] drowsygenius: maybe one day, who knows. it's a long road to learn it and i make pretty good money. but if i get good at it in a few years then who knows [02:45] we were actually just looking online for a good deal [02:45] meyga - awesome do it! im loving my setup!!! [02:45] how much did you spend? [02:46] do you live in the states? [02:46] yup [02:46] hello [02:46] greetings from florida :) [02:46] are we liking our mate ? [02:46] lots and lots of online resources to learn Python [02:47] hello. greetings from houston [02:47] NYC here [02:47] Breeboppa: yeah actually fark.com had a deal yesterday for like $19 you get two entire courses [02:47] I paid 70 for screen, 20 for case, 29 for pi 3, 9 bucks for 32gb microsd chip so about 128 total, closer to 140 with taxes [02:47] i picked it up so now i'm set for a good bit of learning [02:47] did you buy it online? [02:47] greetings meyga. I'm from Denver, Colorado :) [02:48] Yeah RlaRed ?! Nice ! I got a class from udemy for like $20 [02:48] Do you have a microcenter near you? Microcenter.com [02:48] ill check [02:48] Breeboppa: nice. . . did you do it yet? how was it? [02:48] Im looking at it now, it's pretty good so far ! [02:48] you can get all parts from Microcenter.com - i recommend going into one if one is nearby [02:49] Microcenter is da bomb ! [02:49] hell yeah!!! Microcenter is the beesKnees! [02:49] got all my Arduino's and Raspi's there and all my electronic parts and sensors there [02:50] yeah i struggled with which language to learn first since I had a tiny bit of C++ education years ago, and since linux is written with C [02:50] hell yeah, thats the way to do it. i get tired waiting for shipping, so i drive about 15mins- 20mins to my nearest one [02:50] but i ended up deciding on python [02:50] python is the language "experts" recommend, one of the easier ones [02:51] yeah. are you learning python 2 or 3? [02:51] I have html, css, and javascript under my belt. now getting back into python 2, i should do 3 however [02:51] back in the day I learned C from the Denis Ritchie book.. hard as hell.. thank god for O'Riley press !!! [02:51] lol, those damn hard books [02:52] i guess knowing javascript probably makes python a little bit easier [02:52] meyga - did you ever find a microcenter near you with their online locator? [02:52] yeah learning C from a book would be a bit rough. . . you'd have to do little portions at a time so as not to get super bored [02:52] not sure if i'll go with C or C++ after python [02:53] back in the 386 processor days.. 256meg ram, 40 meg hard drives [02:53] so true - baby bites, spit a bit out - then get ready for the next bite [02:53] lol [02:53] man i'm really impressed how nice Ubuntu Mate is [02:53] I learned at NYU in the late 80's, they had a C programming for Unix certificate [02:54] i can't imagine how awesome it's gonna be in a year or two after a few point releases [02:54] depends, do you want to code machine level, aka assembly [02:54] Breeboppa: ah that's badass [02:54] drowsygenius: not really [02:54] ahh ok [02:55] i mean theoretically i could get deep into it and start working on something hardcore, but i doubt it [02:55] i don't have a computer science background so that's pretty unlikely [02:55] so RlaRed and Breboppa may I add you to my friends list? [02:55] hmm, you could make computer science your background if you wanted to... [02:56] drowsygenius: yeah sure. . . how does that work? [02:56] We did Assembler on the 8088 in 1983. I never want to see assembler again...;^) [02:56] yeah i could go back to school i suppose [02:56] right click someone's name in the list [02:56] or get your foot in the door as a software engineer and get real world experience during the time it would have taken you to complete school... [02:57] yeah and what does friending do? [02:57] Okay all !!! Enjoy your evening,,, Mate rock !! [02:57] drowsygenius: yeah exactly, that's more likely. [02:57] Breeboppa: night [02:57] strange my mouse left click stopped working [02:57] all better now [02:57] drowsygenius: honestly i'll probably never do it professionally, but i guess you never know [02:57] not sure i'd want to do it all day long anyway [02:57] drowsy no micro center near me [02:57] It says add to friends list. just a notifier when you are online again, not too sure [02:58] probably better left as a "labor of love" type things [02:58] oh, gotach RlaRed... [02:58] ah ok so if you add me as a friend, does it have any effect on me? [02:58] or just on your side? [02:58] meygahman that has happened to me [02:58] just myside [02:58] damn no micro center [02:58] anyone have google drive working on 15.10? [02:58] that is sad news meyga [02:59] yeah i know [02:59] i'm using 16.04 [02:59] is google drive finally working with ubuntu? I gave up 5 years ago [02:59] drowsygenius: ok yeah i added you as well [02:59] google drive sync you are talking about yeah? [02:59] yeah [02:59] cool. you are added [02:59] when did they get the sync working on ubuntu in general? [02:59] around 4 years ago [02:59] nice. i should be around pretty frequently now that i've decided on Ubuntu Mate [03:00] i was trying all sorts of different distros before this [03:00] but google recently changed thier api so it doesnt work anymore [03:00] Mint, Fedora, Ubuntu, Arch, etc etc etc [03:00] sounds good RlaRed, im satisified with this one. I'll update my core i5 laptop in a couple of weeks but for now this raspberry pi 3 will be my thin client messaging linux pc lol [03:01] kubuntu is really similiar i used it about 4 years ago [03:01] oh so the google sync is broken now? [03:01] true dat about kubuntu [03:01] kubuntu - heavier gui [03:01] drowsygenius: so you remote into another computer to chat? is that what you mean by "thin client"? [03:02] well i heard its broken ill try it now to see myself [03:02] I tried KDE back in the day and it's pretty nice. But i watched some videos and it does seem a little bit overkill for my needs. [03:02] well, i could remote into this one but its on the corner of my desk. I meant thin as thin in resources lol [03:02] i want something that's light on resources, looks good, has a taskbar, but isn't too much like Windows [03:02] RlaRed - have you checked out puppylinux? [03:02] so Mate is perfect. XFCE and Cinnamon are a little too boring and KDE and GNOME are a little too heavy [03:03] drowsygenius: No. What's puppy based off of? Regardless, Ubuntu MATE is perfect for me so I probably won't be checking anything out at this point [03:03] drowsygenius: ah ok, or maybe the computer is just physically super thin :D [03:04] yeah puppy is lightweight simple only 100mb iso [03:04] that's cool. don't need it to be THAT lightweight though :) [03:04] RlaRed, lol :) I love my pc's thin and my women curvy :) [03:04] i'm running in virtualbox with a pretty powerful PC so mainly i just don't want a ton of eye candy and animations [03:05] gotcha [03:05] drowsygenius: really? I love the opposite. super skinny women and big fat computers from the 60's [03:05] yup google drive sync don't work no more [03:05] damn meyga [03:06] Welp. I was planning on finishing a python book this week, but Hearts of Iron 4 blew that plan out of the water. [03:06] ha ha, I can't have too skinny. I do love skinny women with curvy assets :) [03:06] fifty-sevenC: lol. you game a lot? [03:06] Eh put hearts of iron 4 on ice, it will be back after you finish that python book [03:06] Used too. But gamed a lot since HOI4 came out [03:06] drowsygenius: yeah i actually just said that cuz it was funny. :) [03:07] fifty-sevenC: I got crazy for Civ 5 and Gal Civ 3 for a few months, thank god it passed [03:07] i like rocket league for pc. That is my stress reliever [03:07] quite a few sleepless nights. . . my wife was ready to leave me haha [03:07] damn RlaRed - can't have the wife leavin' [03:07] ah i gotta try rocket league . . it looks interesting. do you need a powerful computer or can it run with onboard graphics? [03:08] Well, I finally figured out the game and how to play it properly. Then discovered the AI doesn't know how to play. :( [03:08] no wife leaving would be bad [03:08] I have a gtx 960 4gb. Phenom X4 8gb ram. So not too powerful pc [03:08] hmmmm you have a separate video card though. . . that's pretty powerful [03:08] ha ha at AI doesnt know how to play [03:08] i have intel on-board graphics. . . not gonna cut it probably :D [03:09] yeah i use seperate video card, i like to max everything out on rocket league [03:09] intel on-board graphics might get raped a bit... [03:10] So anyone interested in building a VR pc or already has one? [03:10] *VR ready pc [03:11] nah i'm a cheap bastard [03:11] USSR still getting owned by Panzer 2s I stock piled before WW2 in 1942. After I already got Pz3s and replaced my Pz3s with Pz4s. USSR doesn't even bother building tanks. Seemingly stumbled into a unit type that could destroy Pz2s in 1942. But didn't bother to upgrade it to be able to handle Pz3s or Pz4s. [03:11] sounds like i would think that's hardcore if I had any clue about that game [03:12] Pz2s were obsolete before WW2 even started [03:12] USSR had Heavy tanks before WW2 and t-34s before Germany attacked russia [03:13] ha ha, im getting that way. I think it's because i have a long-term girlfriend again. so I pay for other things, Now i need to convince her into my tech projects - she will become my angel investor :) [03:14] a tech sugar mama [03:14] i like it [03:14] Alright RlaRed, I have to take a MENSA test tomorrow. I better shut off my brain and get well rested. :) [03:14] ok good luck [03:14] night [03:14] thanks! Good night! [03:38] hello someone knows when mate gtk3 is going to be in xenial ? [04:01] opa [05:05] HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-24-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 380 @ 2.53GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.60GHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.6GiB, 82.8% free ** Disk: Total: 101.4GiB, 44.2% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel MID ** Ethernet: None found ** Uptime: 27m 10s ** [05:05] :) [05:28] hi [05:29] i can not read my ubuntu mate desktop. it was corrupted [05:29] viewing unreadable text [05:30] can any one help me [05:46] :( Boom and zoom man. Boom and zoom. [05:47] There won't be a gtk3 mate in xenial. It will be 16.10 [05:56] that sucks [05:56] im going to install debian sid [05:57] Why? [05:57] mate gtk3 [05:58] Why do you want gtk3? [05:58] You will lose a lot of features. [05:58] like waht [05:58] The reason for the move to gtk3 is hidpi support. [05:58] Like icons in your file browser. [05:58] Whatever it is called when you use a dialog to pick a file to open [05:59] gtk2 is dead and upstream MATE is going to drop support for it, so there are good reasons for wanting gtk3 [05:59] debian sid already have it [06:00] It's called "testing" for a reason [06:00] LTS is "long term support", stable [06:00] Select whatever suits your needs [06:00] i installed the other day but in my mind i was thnking debian was slow [06:00] and was the fucking kernel [06:01] sid is actually called as "unstable" [06:01] i just need to compile my own on deban sid [06:01] i know [06:01] debian stretch and sid both have mate-desktop 1.14 [06:02] i know [06:02] gtk2 isn't dead. There is just less things to need to fix for it. [06:02] i installed the other day [06:02] is dead [06:02] xfce is droping it too [06:02] xfce is moving to qt though [06:02] no [06:03] never [06:03] That's LXDE, isn't it? [06:03] yes [06:03] lxqt [06:03] Ah [06:03] javashin: there are PPAs in Ubuntu that will give you newer packages [06:03] there is a version of lxde gtk3 too [06:04] yeah but debian got 52000 pkgs on sid [06:04] Why is that important? [06:04] All the good packages get to debian stable and ubuntu as well [06:05] The bad packages that don't make it there, are not worth it [06:05] i like rolling release distros [06:05] cutting edge [06:05] Then by all means use it [06:06] Debian isn't cutting edge and using the testing version I wouldn't call cutting edge either. [06:06] i have archlinux too [06:06] sid is cutting edge [06:06] got systemd 230 gnome 3.20 [06:06] mate 1.14.1 gtk3 [07:02] javashin: I used to use Arch but ended up just switching to Ubuntu because Arch had too many broken packages [07:02] javashin: "cutting edge" is nice and all, but I prefer "not broken" [07:03] you can't rely on rolling release distros [07:07] arch is fine [07:08] javashin: not if you want to get stuff done === rw is now known as Guest35312 === carlo_ is now known as Guest79840 [10:09] Buon giorno a tutti [10:43] Hey. I am looking for the author of Ubuntu MATE, Martin Wimpress. I know he frequents Jupiter Broadcasting's channel, I'm wondering if anyone would happen to know if he still uses the Wimpy handle or if he goes by something else? [11:00] tiox: flexiondotorg [11:01] * flexiondotorg is Wimpy. [11:18] ciao [11:18] hello [13:03] Hi! Just want to say hello to everybody. Just finished installing Ubuntu-Mate, and also just did the latest updates to it...! [13:04] This OS really digs! I love it! [13:04] See ya all soon! [13:13] https://ubuntu-mate.org/blog/mate-desktop-gtk2-vs-gtk3-memory-consumption/ [13:14] yay [13:17] nice [13:32] can someone help me with the weak wifi issue? [13:33] related to this thread here : https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new/issues/88 [13:33] not sure how to proceed [13:33] any help will be much appreciated. Thanks! [13:41] !ping [13:41] pong! [14:19] hi [14:22] hi bonnie [14:24] anybody here working on ubuntu mate on the pi 3? [14:25] You mean like in a development capacity? [14:26] ya something like that [14:28] reasion im asking i cant get flash player to work i installed pepper and updated it and firefox saying it not installed [14:29] Have you searched the forums for this issue? [14:29] i been allover google [14:30] No I mean the ubuntu mate forum [14:30] ya [14:30] this one: https://ubuntu-mate.community/ [14:30] ok [14:31] thats where i got the install link from [14:32] Is Google Chrome able to run on the rpi3? It might be a better option if you need flash but are not bound to firefox [14:33] i did cromium and got the same issue [14:34] chromium is not chrome [14:35] but firefox is fucking bullshit [14:35] don't use firefox! [14:36] hum [14:36] JensNDS, why? [14:36] ouroumov_: look at your ram [14:37] My RAM is OK: I've got some left [14:38] wait 4 houres [14:38] I've been running the machine for a month [14:39] I have many tabs on two different firefox windows [14:40] JensNDS: running Firefox here, what about it? [14:40] is shit [14:40] firefox ist shit!!!!! [14:40] I smell a fanboy :> [14:40] on windows is ok but on linux is teribble [14:41] JensNDS: calm down [14:41] JensNDS: what's wrong with it? [14:41] ram, and x-server crashes on ubuntu mate 16.05 [14:41] 16.04 sorry [14:41] Are we talking about and X crash or about firefox? [14:42] i just need flashplayer for ubuntu mate 16.04 with firefox for the pi 3? [14:45] ouroumov_: firefox is the reasen for the x-server crash [14:46] No a bug in Xserver is the reason for xserver crash [14:51] hi guys. I'm having trouble installing onto a brand new system + blank SSD. I'm getting a prompt "Force UEFI Installation" which I can't close [14:52] camason_, can you enable legacy mode and turn off secure boot in bios? [14:54] I'll have a look 2 mins [15:00] seems to have gotten through by allowing Ubuntu to pick partitions [15:10] wc === jake__ is now known as JakesDen [15:57] Hello, anyone know how to get the "linux-firmware-nonfree" package again? [16:03] Hello, anyone know how to get the "linux-firmware-nonfree" package again? [16:03] Nevermind I found it === ramon is now known as Guest33671 === thiago_ is now known as Guest96273 === Guest96273 is now known as thout === ubuntu is now known as Guest46802 === Guest46802 is now known as Ivo123 [20:29] Hi guys. I installed Ubuntu Mate 16.04 a few days ago, and I just got a pop up saying I have 15.10 and that I should upgrade it. What should I do? [20:30] First time I install linux, I don't even know where to start looking for help. [20:32] blito: are you sure you installed 16.04? [20:34] gordonjcp, is there any place I can check besides looking for the name of the .iso? [20:34] blito: open a terminal, "cat /etc/issue" [20:35] 15.10 [20:35] .... [20:35] I'll go find the .iso [20:35] haha [20:35] lol, thanks [20:35] you can either do an upgrade, or reinstall from scratch [20:35] is it the same? [20:36] well, no, if you reinstall you'll likely wipe anything you've got installed, anything in /home [20:36] should I just follow the GUI? [20:36] for the updater? [20:36] yea [20:36] yeah, if it's not going to take a million years on your internet connection :-) [20:36] if you had to download the 16.04 iso it would take about as long as doing the upgrade to install [20:37] right [20:38] will the update be as clean as a reinstall from scratch? coming from windows i'd do a reinstall just in case [20:40] blito: nothing stopping you doing a reinstall if you'd prefer [20:40] blito: an update will keep your installed applications, settings, and files in your homedir [20:41] Hello all . Installing Ubuntu mate on my 3 computers atm ;) [20:43] gordonjcp, ok. I guess I'll do it in a while. [20:43] after checking that iso haha [20:43] thanks for your help [20:43] linux_: at that rate, you're just about worthwhile making an install server [20:43] blito: no worries [20:44] ;) [21:33]