[02:35] how the fuck are barely any installed apps on my tablet taking 6GB of space? [04:18] hello all [06:11] Good moning ! [06:14] Morning [06:16] Hey Swwwwwitcheeezzzz [06:16] how you doin today [06:35] knightwise: Not to bad thanks, you? [06:41] rofl wouldn't like to be "that" guy http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/richard-branson-caught-an-employee-sleeping-at-the-virgin-australia-office-and-snapped-a-hilarious-photo/ar-AAgPhzA?ocid=ob-fb-engb-52 [06:47] That is typical branson :) hilarious [06:47] Doin ok , playing around with the foscam i've installed at home [06:47] ip camera [06:48] ahh cool [06:50] yep , gonna see if I can build some ifttt scripts to have the camera trigger the lights in the house when it detects motion [06:52] knightwise: Building the "automated" house of the future ? :p [06:53] Thats kinda relative. I do have my hue lights go on and off automatically in the evening and in the morning [06:54] :) [06:54] I gotta say I don't get why people seem so surprised about MS releasing a FreeBSD OS for Azure.. [06:56] Ms is no longer about an OS , its about apps and services [06:57] they "get" that in order to succeed its no longer about building a walled garden [06:57] I mean since Nadella took over as Ceo they have changed direction with OSS in general, The guy's an ex Sun Micro dude ofc he will want a "Unix" in there somewhere. Also being he was the "head" of the cloud computing arm of MS I gotta say I was expecting this to come a little sooner [07:55] morning [07:56] Heya SuperMatt [07:56] g'day [07:58] pip pip [07:58] Tah popey ! [07:58] Morning popey [08:09] Morning all === zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi [08:32] Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy Iced Tea Day! 😃 🍹 [08:35] oooh, no thanks to iced tea [08:36] JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgt9UVXedGk [08:37] SuperMatt: you use linux and play games you should be used to cold tea ;) [08:38] I had quite a bit of iced coffee when I was in Austin last month, very nice [08:38] not a fan of iced tea, no matter how much the Floridians tell me how great it is [08:40] * JamesTait is not a fan of davmor2's iced tea. [08:40] I don't mind the drink, though. Quite refreshing. I usually make it with rooibos. [08:41] iced tea is blasphemy! [08:41] * Switches doesn't drink tea at all but that's not the point [08:43] * popey makes some Matê [08:43] lol [08:44] JamesTait: nor am I it was on a spotify playlist and only stuck in my head for the iced-tea line however I could point you at Straight Outta Compton that's the only other musical Iced-T I know :D [08:44] ... [08:44] popey: oh oh oh have you actually had some now? [08:44] no [08:44] just about to [08:45] I'll stick to me coffee :p [08:45] * JamesTait is drinking coffee atm. [08:47] Coffee & Hobnobs for me :) [08:47] Oh a new ubuntu podcast. Gives me something to listen to. [09:05] morning boys and girls. [09:05] Morning brobostigon [09:06] morning Switches [09:13] Good mornign brobostigon [09:16] good morning knightwise [10:04] noooo [10:04] gourd has a hole [10:09] get it cheap when you bought a fake beard? :-P [10:12] hah [10:41] I installed Lubuntu in the UK and it's set to US keyboard layout. Is that a bug you [10:42] I asked in #lubuntu but it's empty [10:43] popey: you let it dry out too long before using it [10:46] I just found setxkbmap -layout gb - does that make the change permanently or do I need something else? [10:48] Sorry Lubuntu has answered me. I wasn't patient enough, Apologies [10:48] It should make the change permanent. The default always seems to be us [10:48] US* [10:48] Ahh good :) [10:48] sadlee: Hope they fix it for you [10:49] The wonder of Google eh :) [10:49] I wish helpers online would mention whether changes are permanent though. I suppose it's obvious to seasoned cli users [10:50] Sometimes you kinda forget tbh, its one of those details [10:51] I have noticed the word set in the command usually makes things permanent, but I guess that's just coincidence [10:51] You're so focused on sorting the problem and finding out what caused it that a little detail like it being gone on next reboot doesn't come to mind until after you say "oh restart it" and they leave >.< [10:51] I could get used to the cli - it's kind of easier in an odd way [10:52] cli isn't that bad, it can be a lifesaver (although nowadays its a lot less used than it was) [10:54] Apparently my fix is temporary btw, Lubuntu peeps just told me and as this is archived, I don't want to mislead anyone. That would be hypocitical :) [10:54] Ahh well that's good to know [10:55] I'm looking at sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration [10:56] Do I dive in and take arisk it's right? [10:56] Although I normally think of things with "xkb" to be permanent.. although saying that it was probably from around the time writing configs was done by hand >.> [10:56] well that command will bring up the package manager to allow the change that should make it permanent for sure [10:59] I'll give it ago, cos the approved way seems to be to edit the keyboard file and I can't find it yet :) [11:00] I've also found L='us' && sudo sed -i 's/XKBLAYOUT=\"\w*"/XKBLAYOUT=\"'$L'\"/g' /etc/default/keyboard but that looks like gibberish to me :) [11:01] Well that command (the dpkg-reconfigure) should change the file for you [11:04] Well the command you pasted is just "pushing" layout changes to the file located at /etc/default/keyboard [11:04] It seemed to work though it asked me questions about interrupt keys that were a bit confusing. I just left them as the defaults [11:04] If you wanna read up some more on what sed is and does https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sed that link explains it [11:05] yeah the configure option if i remember right trys to find out if you have "extra" keys like the european keyboard layouts have [11:05] It's interesting stuff and it was probably quicker than using the GUI. Anyway it seems to be solved [11:06] Great! :) [11:07] http://ruinmysearchhistory.com/ [11:07] ;) [11:09] Why would I want to ruinmysearchhistory? If I've searched for something it's likely that I would want to find it again :p [11:09] thats funny [11:09] Plus I use duckduckgo.. [11:10] hah, duckduckgo is the new arch/vegan [11:10] lol [11:10] arch/vegan/brexit [11:11] http://brexitquiz.com/ is fun [11:11] i got 12/14.. oops [11:11] i voted without investigating it [11:12] i just decided we shouldn't be voting about it right now [11:12] why [11:12] because it interferes with euro 2016? :) [11:12] it was just to appease farage in the election [11:12] it shouldn't have been done [11:13] hence i voted to retain status quo [11:13] i see [11:13] he's so excited to be relevant [11:13] like donald fart [11:14] it's such a shame old people and people who live in small villages get to vote :) [11:14] lol [11:14] aklthough young ppl like to rebel against generation+1 [11:14] whether reasonably or not [11:14] perhaps, but it's mostly gen+2 who are against IME [11:14] i still think brexit will not breach 34% [11:14] gen+1 seem okay, but maybe 75/25 split [11:14] yeah [11:15] only pro brexit stuff I see on fb are from people who actually don't live here anymore [11:16] one guy posted a rant, and then clearly got his arse handed to him, deleted the post and said he's quitting fb for a bit. [11:16] So I guess you're voting to stay in then? :p [11:17] hehe [11:17] is it that obvious :) [11:17] rofl just a little [11:18] i figure all the brexit ppl have already told me [11:18] Tbh though I'm on the other side of it. [11:18] and everyone else is remain [11:18] they tell me every day on fb until i block them [11:19] and i've already voted [11:19] lol [11:31] could i georgaphically locate devices in a house using rfid tags or other tech? [11:31] would need to be "dumb" tech to incorporate as a sticker/tags [11:31] isn't the range of rfid too short? [11:31] http://www.gizmag.com/sticknfind-finding-system/25238/ [11:31] allegedly no! [11:32] you'd have to transmit a lot of power to active it's transmitter? [11:33] ah, bluetooth [11:33] yeah, they use a battery and not transmitted power [11:33] sad face [11:33] rfid too short range? [11:33] new bt4 is low power though innit? [11:33] so you have to remember once a year to get all the devices you're tracking and change the battery [11:34] until they make a kinetic powered tracker it's a nice idea but a bit of a pain for most i suspect [11:35] they raise a $1m on indiegogog [11:35] i think there's trackr already doing what they are doing [11:35] bluetooth ? [11:37] yes https://www.thetrackr.com/tech-specs [11:37] reviews from ppl who got the product complained about quality. the transmitters dying or not working [11:39] RFID Tags - minimum read distance of over 1 meter or 3 feet. Gen2 tags can have a read range of up to 12 meters or 37 feet, however new generation of IC's plus antenna designs are now pushing this distance to over 15 meters! [11:41] active RFID looks better than bluetooth [11:41] * zmoylan-pi remembers a bt snooping rifle that could snag a users phone information from a mile or two away... http://www.tomsguide.com/us/how-to-bluesniper-pt1,review-408.html [11:42] Might not all these techs be bypassed by li-fi though as there are street lamps almost everywhere in the UK. There's on 30ft from me right now and I'm pretty rural [11:43] i thought li fi had gone nowhere and was losing out to bt and rfid [11:43] i'm just thinking about sticky tags that could be stuck on passport, remote controls, key fob, wallet to find them at home [11:43] perfect for the terrorist who wants a device to target a specific individual [11:44] yeah ,, or a homeowner with kids [11:44] There's a theory isn't there, that the democratisation of weapons will wipe out all civilisations [11:45] only takes one gobdaw with a doomsday device [11:45] It's a worryingly cogent argument too [11:47] in heinleins sci fi he pointed out that in an increasingly technologically dependent society anyone stopping their little part of the society can affect a massive part of the rest of it [11:47] * sadlee has to catch a train, but will bookmark this channel [11:48] o/ [11:50] Hi - I was wondering if someone could support me in looking into random crashes with ubuntu 16.04. [11:50] Sometimes the system will not start up, the keyboard does not react, I can't switch into a terminal and the only thing I can do is to hold down the power button and hard restart it [11:51] Or I will lock the computer, and when trying to unlock it, nothing will respond, I don't get a password window, I can;t switch into the terminal etc [11:51] I was wondering if there is a place where these crashes are stored/logged so I can at least google propable causes :) [11:51] It is a fresh install of 16.04 on a dell precsission 5510 [11:54] Best to ask in #ubuntu really, but to start you off everything the system does is normally logged in /var/log in a file called syslog (there may be more than one syslog file) [11:55] thanks [11:55] ubuntu is on freenode as well I assume? [11:55] I was looking in syslog but either I don't know what to look for or there's nothing there [11:55] yep, it's the main support channel [11:55] okay great :) i'll ask there [11:56] no problem :) hope they can help you out [12:26] https://haveibeenpwned.com/ [12:31] www.wired.co.uk/article/new-robot-wars-2016-behind-the-scenes YAY === 17SAAEZLM is now known as pandaadb === 16WAAELQZ is now known as pandaadb [14:32] https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jvnddfpbgz2hmgb/AABQW6d_BG8ENCU8Xo2Lonxda?dl=0 [14:32] more fruity tech disassembled \o/ [14:43] rofl def not their day... http://tinyurl.com/jx52noq [14:45] no way :D also, Besancon is where housemates of mine from Uni time live(d) [14:46] I found that hilarious [14:47] trying to rob a place only to find out some of the people there are GIGN (French version of Sas), that must have been a "oh ffs" moment [14:47] :> [15:23] I don't get it. Shouldn't xenial be able to clean boot with apt-get clean? [15:23] it just does nothing. [15:30] Myrtti: What do you mean "clean boot"? the apt-get clean command just removes the package cache === brmbrmca1 is now known as brmbrmcar [15:31] I can't install upgrades because my /boot is full, and the dialogue suggests running apt-get clean to solve the issue? [15:31] Switches: yeah, that's what I thought and found it a bit weird [15:32] Try apt-get autoremove see if it can clear any of the initrds or older kernels? [15:52] yeah, did absolutely nothing. Ended up doing what I always do and fire up synaptic [15:52] it says apt-get clean!? [15:52] that's just wrong [15:52] I mean, that's right if / is full [15:53] but not /boot [15:55] Myrtti: You got it sorted then? [15:55] yeah [15:55] Good, good [15:57] * Switches Watches as popey franticly flails his arms about cussing apt-get for being silly [16:11] #parcelforceupdate [16:12] * Laney haz new phone [16:12] :) [16:16] shiny [16:19] had to travel into town to get a new sim card though [16:20] popey: sudo apt autoremove removes any old kernels from boot [16:20] (I know) [16:20] it didnt tell her to do that, it says apt-get clean [16:20] Laney: wot u got? [16:20] s7 [16:21] was going to wait for the oneplus 3 [16:21] but then i dropped my phone on a concrete floor [16:21] so that kind of accelerated the decision point [16:21] 'always on screen' seems nice [16:21] wonder if i can get the weather on there (or other things) [16:22] nice [16:22] All these posh gits with the upper class phones :p [16:22] yeah, Laney is the poshest person I know [16:22] I made myself like olives a couple of years back [16:22] just so I could be posh [16:23] rofl [16:24] if it makes you feel more working class i have a dumb nokia... and a cloth cap... well baseball cap... :-) [16:24] rofl, Well I'm special... I have a Windows Phone! [16:25] Switches: I think you forgot the "" marks around the SPECIAL there ;) [16:25] lol [16:26] wow even my choice was smarter than his phone... :-P [16:26] I guess it's good, haven't used Windows on my PC for over a decade, but still have it on the phone.. [16:26] samsung's camera app has a feature to make my face look thinner [16:26] Why?! [16:26] SELFIE CULTURE [16:27] * Laney writes a Guardian article about it [16:27] hehe [16:28] Laney: how thin can it go? [16:28] 1px? [17:33] my face is too thin can it make it fatter [17:33] ? [17:33] also my hairdresser has been deported, i need a haircut [17:35] and travelling to their home country is right out? [17:42] foobarry: http://i.imgur.com/3vWSU08.jpg [17:45] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQSh1MWIdVU [18:42] popey: A flying drone hair cutter!... (although it almost destroying the dummy head was amusing). Makes me glad I'm bald. === m0nkey__ is now known as m0nkey_ === jj is now known as Guest40432