[00:26] <ali1234> the trouble with PPA is it makes reporting bugs unnecessarily difficult. which is totally not your fault, i've been asking for launchpad/apport to support bug reports against PPAs for years
[00:27] <ali1234> on balance a PPA is probably the most sensible way still
[00:43] <Unit193> Can't use an apport hook to re-assign it?
[00:46] <ali1234> i don't know. all i know is "ubuntu-bug" will refuse to submit a report if you are using ppa packages
[00:46] <ali1234> not for everything, just for the packages from the ppa and stuff that depends on them
[00:47] <ali1234> also you can't report bugs against a ppa because launchpad doesn't have a way to assign them like that
[00:47] <ali1234> it must be an official package or upstream project hosted on launchpad
[00:48] <Unit193> Right, and by the looks of it at least it's not easily done, no.
[00:49] <knome> is there a simple tool that could submit bug data to bugzilla?
[00:50] <ali1234> before MATE was official they had a PPA and an empty project, and told people to go to the project age and click "report a bug" for everything. and then they'd triage that manually
[00:50] <knome> or alternatively, we could just write a small (set of) script(s) to gather data we want in the reports for certain components and dump then in an archive or concat into a single file
[00:50] <Unit193> apport-collect with the bug reported to the project does even, right?
[00:50] <ali1234> knome: i believe debian has "debian-bug" which presumably talks to DBTS, but i 've never used it
[00:51] <ali1234> i dont know about bugzilla... maybe fedora has something i think they use bugzilla?
[00:51] <Unit193> pkg:reportbug
[00:51] <knome> i don't know either, but is there any reason why we wouldn't want reports directly upstream (xfce bugzilla)?
[00:52] <Unit193> I'd presume less people have accounts.
[00:52] <ali1234> no, it's just relatively hard to get good bug reports that way compared to "ubuntu-bug <package>"
[00:52] <Unit193> Also, I've used 'bugz' in the past, but that's not exactly what you're looking for either.  Just a CLI interface using the API. :/
[00:52] <knome> less xfce people follow LP...
[01:47] <bluesabre> we could patch ubuntu-bug in our PPA
[01:47] <bluesabre> >.>
[01:50] <Unit193> Ahaha. :D
[01:53] <bluesabre> I think that might be a valid solution here
[01:55] <ali1234> would be a good idea to talk to the launchpad devs if you are serious about that
[01:56] <bluesabre> or fork us a xubuntu-bug or ppa-bug
[06:37] <flocculant> bluesabre Unit193 - just because *we* happen to be the ones doing this gtk3 stuff and in a ppa, doesn't actually follow that the bugs need to be on LP - they're not xubuntu bugs are they
[06:38] <flocculant> at least not until they're in Xubuntu
[06:38] <flocculant> so why not tell people to report to bugzilla
[06:38] <Unit193> They are if I screwed up the packaging. :P
[06:38] <Unit193> But aye.
[06:38] <flocculant> heh
[06:40] <flocculant> Unit193: ubiquity is working btw
[06:51] <flocculant> hah - I see knome said the same thing 
[07:26] <Unit193> Oh nice, missed that but means I should respin.
[07:26] <flocculant> kind of why I mentioned it :)
[20:09] <Unit193> bluesabre: https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/appfinder.png
[21:21] <Unit193> Fun times, nice crash of /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/wrapper-1.0 /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/xfce4/panel/plugins/libxfce4powermanager.so 19 23068698 power-manager-plugin Power\ Manager\ Plug
[21:49] <genii> ooooo