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pnglnacc, Bashing-om : should I be worried that the remote creates 2 devices?00:04
pnglThe OK button is now working, not sure what was going on before.00:04
naccpngl: i think that can be normal for dongles, it depends on the hardware, i think00:05
pnglnacc: ok, thanks :)00:05
encolpeHow to break a systemd cycle ?00:23
minas114I noticed that a process named "updatedb.mlocate" uses a lot of Disk IO. What is it doing? Is it necessary or can I remove it?00:27
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LtLminas114: do not remove it00:27
encolpeminas114: It update  a database for the locate command00:27
Guest48342hola buenas noches00:28
minas114encolpe, but which database? the one ubuntu uses to search in the dash?00:28
encolpeAs locate is widely use in others programms, don't remove it00:28
LtLminas114: it doesn't run often and it's worth the i/o00:28
OerHeksit uses spare i/o time, don't worry00:29
minas114Okay then00:29
encolpeminas114: it updates only once a day00:29
Guest48342olaaaaaaaa00:34
Bashing-om!english | Guest4834200:36
ubottuGuest48342: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList00:36
guest55055how do i know wether filesystem-based or block-based encryption is better for me?00:39
LtLguest55055: google that question?00:40
OerHekscollect all your options and compare00:40
OerHeksZFS on Linux doesn't support native encryption yet ..00:43
samthewildonetrying to do a static linking for a program, not working.00:53
samthewildoneI place the linked file in "/usr/bin", returns a file not found.00:54
erebel55does anyone see an issue with my service file? for some reason it doesn't auto start on boot00:55
erebel55http://pastebin.com/rtbrFSA800:55
erebel55I did a systemctl enable omniwar.service00:55
ikoniaeelstrebor: wgere you not told about this the other day ?00:57
eelstrebori don't know why i'm dropping in and out - i'll see if i can find out what's going on - i did change dns services00:58
ikoniadns ?>?00:58
ikoniawhat has that got to do with it00:58
ikoniayou are the guy who started off writing an upstart job right ?00:58
eelstrebori don't know - but it's the only change i made today00:58
eelstreborin my router00:59
ikoniadns has nothing to do with it00:59
eelstreborit's suppose to be one of those smart dns servers00:59
ikoniayou started off writing upstart right ? then got told to setup a systemd unit file ?00:59
erebel55I think that was me00:59
eelstrebornope00:59
eelstreborwasn't me01:00
ikoniahow annoying two guys with similar names and similar problems01:00
erebel55ikonia, yeah that was me. And I was successful. Except I'm trying to get it to autostart at boot and am having troubles with that01:00
ikoniathanks erebel5501:00
ikoniaerebel55: right, so have you checked the symlinks have been made correctly ?01:00
erebel55ikonia, symlinks between what files?01:01
ikoniaerebel55: the unit files01:02
ikoniathats how enable/disable works01:02
erebel55ahh okay, I just have one unit file01:02
erebel55trying to figure out how to check the symblink01:02
eelstrebormaybe my isp is doing something that's causing me to drop in and out? don't know how to determine that without having 2 ISP's to test with01:03
ikoniaeelstrebor: what is the actual problem you need help with ?01:03
ikonia(#ubuntu problem)01:04
eelstreborikonia, you're complaining about this and i'm just saying that i don't know what i can do to correct the problem01:04
ikoniaeelstrebor: what is the actual problem you need help with01:05
eelstreborsolving why i'm dropping in and out01:05
erebel55ikonia, I don't think the symlink is there http://i.imgur.com/e456clj.png01:05
nacceelstrebor: ikonia: i think it's just miscommunication01:05
ikoniaerebel55: ok , so thats the starting thing01:06
naccikonia: thought eelstrebor was erebel5501:06
ikoniaeelstrebor: it looks like your connection is just dropping01:06
ikoniaeelstrebor: could be your end, could be the freenode server you are using01:06
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* eelstrebor normally has a stable connection01:06
ikoniaeelstrebor: but you don't at the moment.....so your normal situation doesn't really have much impact01:07
erebel55ikonia, why wouldn't it be creating it?01:07
hamba-allahhi01:07
ikoniaerebel55: walk through the system process, see what you've missed01:07
erebel55the unit file?01:08
erebel55it's pretty simple01:08
erebel55http://pastebin.com/rtbrFSA801:08
hamba-allahI was a new person please explain how this application works01:09
ikonia!irc | hamba-allah01:09
ubottuhamba-allah: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines01:09
ikonia!guidelines | hamba-allah01:10
ubottuhamba-allah: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines01:10
ikoniacheck out those links hamba-allah01:10
erebel55ikonia, what is the symlink supposed to attach my .service to? I'm confused01:11
ikoniaerebel55: where is your file actually on your file system01:12
erebel55ikonia, /etc/systemd/system01:13
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hamba-allahwhat code it erebel5501:13
erebel55http://pastebin.com/rtbrFSA801:14
ikoniaerebel55: so if you look in that directory do you see any other system unit files ?01:15
ikoniaor do you see a load of directories ?01:15
erebel55ikonia, I see this http://i.imgur.com/sQJAuEH.png01:16
erebel55so a couple other service files01:16
Sonderbladeis there no rust package in ubuntu?01:16
ikoniaerebel55: there are no other unit files there01:16
ikoniaa load of directories and some simlinks to binaries01:16
erebel55oh I thought sshd.service and syslog.service were unit files01:17
festerBubottu: this is a 404 from my browser  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist , lot of links to that faq are 404 today01:17
ikoniaerebel55: well, you're technically correct in that they are not actual binary files, but they are executed to load the target if you look in them01:17
hamba-allahIndonesia is there anyone here01:17
ikoniahamba-allah: have a look at the guidelines URL hamba-allah01:17
ikoniahamba-allah: this isn't a social channel,01:17
ikoniaerebel55: if you look in those directories you'll see the services are symlinks01:19
erebel55ikonia, when I first did the systemctl enable I didn't give it the full path to the .service01:19
hamba-allahoh this brarti private channel01:19
erebel55I wonder if that is it01:19
erebel55http://i.imgur.com/ooAway3.png01:19
ikoniaerebel55: think of it as the old init system but not sequential01:19
ikoniaerebel55: that looks better01:19
ikoniasyymlinks getting created01:19
erebel55my symlink still didn't show when I did the ls grep tho. I might be doing that wrong01:19
erebel55but it said it created it01:20
hamba-allahcodes and link it's actually what I do not understand01:20
xwcthey so i have a headless server with 14.04 on it and i recently installed tmux-next and it gives me protocol version mismatch client 7 server 8, when i search everyone else has the other way around01:20
ikoniaerebel55: where are you looking for the symlink01:20
erebel55ls -la | grep "\->"01:20
ikoniaerebel55: no - where are you looking for the symlink01:20
ikoniawhat is the directory you are looking for the symlink in01:20
hamba-allahsee you my friend off i'm must go01:21
erebel55ikonia, /etc/systemd/system01:21
ikoniaerebel55: why would it be there ??? thats where you file is01:21
erebel55oh01:21
ikoniaerebel55: look at the actual output it tells you where it's created the symlink01:21
ikoniait's in the image you've pasted !01:21
ikoniaREAD the text01:21
erebel55duh01:21
erebel55sorry01:21
erebel55i'm dense01:21
ikoniayou have to understand what you are doing - read up about systemd01:21
ikoniayou can't just type things01:22
ikonianot trying to be harsh here but systemd is your core controller for your whole box, you don't mess around with it01:22
erebel55give me a windows >_<01:22
ikoniaerebel55: use windows if you're more comfrotable with it01:22
erebel55i'm just kidding. there is just so much to learn01:22
erebel55okay yeah the symlink is there when I look in the proper directory01:23
erebel55so time to reboot and see if it works01:23
erebel55:)01:23
ikoniaor just start it01:23
ikoniaeg: systemctl start $service01:23
erebel55well starting and stopping was already working01:23
erebel55it just didn't start with boot01:23
ikoniaok01:24
erebel55and it works :D01:25
erebel55all because I forgot the path. Man I always mess something up like that01:25
ikoniaeast to do01:25
ikoniaeasy01:26
erebel55thank you for your help :)01:26
ikoniayou got there on your own, so thank yourselfr01:26
erebel55I am linux gawd01:26
xwctanyone?01:29
cosmicfireseclipse isn't working with git on 16.0401:35
ubuntu-matehi01:39
Cyl_Hi, I have a simple question, what would be the linux image for Ubuntu 14.04? I'm trying to get some hardware that worked previously to work, and I need the image # so I can install it and not have to recompile.01:40
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owlrhey01:41
andreas_wafflesHello! Trying to install Ubuntu 16.04, but when I boot the USB I get a GNU GRUB command line screen instead saying "Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported"01:41
owlrwhy mounting a partition with -o rw always modified it? checksum is modified everytime.. while doing the same with -o ro does not affect the partition01:41
andreas_wafflesany ideas?01:41
ubuntu-matei'm need reinstall the grub , i 'm on livecd now , but i have a problem , my sda1=boot, sda2=swap, sda3=root. How i mount and install grub if my root and boot directories ar diferent path?????01:43
akikCyl_: you can download the ubuntu 14.04 iso image. what problem do you have?01:43
Cyl_I mean the generic Linux image, not the ISO.01:43
Cyl_akik: A trackpad that isn't being picked up by Ubuntu but is working fine with Windows01:44
akikCyl_: the kernel?01:44
ubuntu-mateanyone know how helpme01:44
Cyl_Yes.01:44
Cyl_I need the kernel version.01:44
akikCyl_: the kernel is inside of the iso. you can probably find it after mounting, not sure01:44
Cyl_I can download it off synaptic, I just need to know which one01:45
akikubuntu-mate: you can run grub-install after mounting your root file system and chrooting into it01:45
akikubuntu-mate: # for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do mount -B $i /mnt$i; done01:46
ubuntu-mateyes akik but my /boot and root / are diferent paths , how do to mounting it01:46
akikubuntu-mate: that expects your root file system to be mounted under /mnt01:46
akikubuntu-mate: you can mount your /boot so that it's under /mnt/boot01:47
ubuntu-mateand my /boot (sda1)01:47
OerHeksCyl_, linux-image-generic should install the version that matches your current kernel01:47
akikubuntu-mate: then use "chroot /mnt /bin/bash"01:47
ubuntu-matei sure ,thanks01:47
ubuntu-mateit's clear and obvious now01:47
ubuntu-matethanks for help akik01:48
ubuntu-matei'll try01:48
Cyl_0erHeks: I need the version that works with 14.04, not with 16.04, because my trackpad works with 14.04 but it doesn't with 16.04, and it works in Windows.01:48
Cyl_I don't want to recompile the kernel, the Kernel/Compile help site says that I can get the image corresponding to that version and not have to recompile.01:49
OerHeksCyl so? install it on your 14.04 .. did i mention other version ?01:49
Cyl_I'm not sure what you mean01:49
OerHekslinux-image-generic is the metapackage to install that kernel.01:52
ErigeI have a weird issue, My wifi connects to saved networks but it doesnt show any new networks of even the one im connected on the applet01:52
Cyl_So you mean if I install the generic image it'll work? I thought it would be the one specific to Ubuntu 14.04 that I would have to install01:53
OerHeksi hope you want to install it on 14.04 ..01:54
Cyl_I don't.01:55
OerHeksif not, that would be silly01:55
Cyl_Well, I'm trying to get hardware that was supported by 14.04 to work.01:55
Cyl_That no longer is detected in 16.0401:55
OerHeks14.04.4 is still supported.01:56
Cyl_Well my trackpad isn't working.01:56
ubuntu-matei did : sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda3 /mnt && sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot, then sudo chroot /mnt && sudo grub-install /dev/sda ,but i got error.what do i would do?01:56
akikubuntu-mate: use the for loop to mount the special directories under /mnt01:56
Cyl_The actual problem, then is my trackpad not working. It's not being detected by lsusb or lspci, it's connected properly, and working under Windows.01:57
akikubuntu-mate: the for loop needs to be run before chroot01:59
Cyl_The system I am using is Acer Aspire ES1-512 C88M02:00
akikCyl_: it's best that you install 14.04 on your system02:01
Cyl_I really don't want to, as it would be a downgrade, I'd rather use the image from 14.04 and be able to have it work that way, because I heard you can make it work if you recompile the kernel.02:02
akikCyl_: well if you want to try it, you could try installing the old kernel to 16.04. no guarantees though02:03
akikCyl_: it's not supported on this channel02:04
Cyl_akik: Not supported, meaning you wouldn't recommend it right?02:05
hamba-allahyes02:05
akikCyl_: right02:05
Cyl_Is there a reason why? And if not could you make my trackpad work on 16.04, cause it has a lot of good things 14.04 doesn't..02:06
akikCyl_: try it and then come to give a report?02:08
Cyl_Okay.02:09
ErigeI have a weird issue, My wifi connects to saved networks but it doesnt show any new networks of even the one im connected on the applet02:09
OS-22765#02:09
ac2hey wanted to know if anyone has had a chance to test some of the features in "bash on ubuntu on windows" ?02:16
Bashing-om!ubuwin | ac202:17
ubottuac2: Canonical and Microsoft have announced that Windows 10 will be able to run Ubuntu programs without needing porting/recompilation. This functionality is still in beta and is not supported in #ubuntu. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows.02:17
Bashing-omac2: Also: discussion on the forum : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2318965&page=6 .02:18
irn4lhi guys02:18
shabang_knightkkkkkkk.... VW stuff02:18
irn4lso i was talking with debian folks02:18
shabang_knightvm02:18
irn4land you guys must meet and talk02:18
OerHeksirn4l, yeah, no, this is support only. try #ubuntu-discuss02:19
irn4llol02:20
irn4li dont interfere with help beeing provided to people02:20
irn4lif that happens i stop talk02:20
irn4lanyway02:20
irn4lyou guys must build a single unique linux distro02:20
irn4lthat payes users02:21
OerHeksubuntu does have good connections with Debian .. and  more02:21
Tex_Nickac2: no as i havent used win in years, however there have been unix utility win ports for years in a package known as unixutils02:21
irn4lgood conection? so why debian and ubuntu is not only one?02:21
OerHekstake that to discuss please.02:22
irn4li say all distros, forks and division is just a self inflicted war to try an failed attemped to incentivate people to make a better linux02:22
irn4lmore divisions02:23
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irn4lwhy is this people around here a potential buyer that you dont want to lose?02:23
irn4li want to suggest and ubuntu channel for every specific area that ubuntu supports02:24
irn4lis there any ubuntu-canonical?02:25
daxno02:25
OerHeksknock yourself out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList02:25
irn4llol02:26
irn4lwtf dude02:26
irn4lomg02:26
irn4lubuntu02:26
irn4ldo you want us to fall?02:26
irn4lonly togehter we are strong dude02:26
daxirn4l: Support discussion only in here. Thanks.02:26
irn4li should be ubuntu CEO02:27
irn4lor something02:27
irn4lleader02:27
irn4lguru02:27
irn4lcaptaian02:27
AndChat|526161What are some good ide's for java in Ubuntu?02:31
daxeclipse02:32
AndChat|526161Have used eclipse though didn't like it much02:32
jamesdnetbeans?02:32
AndChat|526161I see02:32
daxthe same ones that are everywhere else02:32
AndChat|526161Netbeans is nice?02:32
jamesdi don't code java, but netbeans does what i need pretty well.02:33
AndChat|526161Eclipse use to consume 70% of CPU usage02:33
AndChat|526161 At least mine02:33
AndChat|526161I see jamesd02:34
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diego__hola02:44
pietrowhat is better on ubuntu 15 if you compare it to 14?02:45
Cyl22Hi I need help with my trackpad, it works in windows but it can't be detected by lsusb or lspci02:51
Cyl22On linux02:51
akikCyl22: so... what happened with your kernel test?02:51
Cyl22Ehm, couldn't find the right one?02:52
Cyl22For 3.19, which is the Kernel Version 14.04 has02:52
akik!info linux-image trusty02:53
ubottuPackage linux-image does not exist in trusty02:53
akik!info linux-image-generic trusty02:53
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.88.94 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 29 kB02:53
akikCyl22: maybe try that version? you would be better off installing 14.0402:54
Cyl22No, because I don't want to lose the newer features that are in 16.0402:55
Cyl22:/02:55
akikCyl22: i think you're on your own then02:55
Cyl22Why didn't they retain drivers from the older versions? It's unfair.02:56
akikCyl22: try 14.04 live dvd to see if it works there02:56
OerHeks!bug02:56
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.02:56
OerHeksubuntu-bug elantech or something like that02:57
akikCyl22: i don't think it has been intentionally disabled02:57
akikCyl22: i'm using a scsi card from 1998 and it still works02:57
Cyl22Wouldn't the bug be with the module, not elantech?02:58
glasswife asked me to copy videos from her phone to desktop, but when i play them in vlc the video scenes dont play after the first 3 secs or so but the sounds plays whole way through any ideas (ubuntu-mate 16.04)03:02
caterfxothe videos play on her phone?03:07
glassyes03:08
glassthey are mp4 format i am guessing i need a new codec maybe?03:09
caterfxomaybe. is there some other format you can play in  ubuntu for sure?03:09
glassyes everything else works i even run a plex server on it03:10
caterfxocool.03:10
glassmy google fu just found that i may not have installed restriced extras03:10
caterfxoah!03:11
glassand or vlc plugin pulse03:11
caterfxoculpritzio!03:11
glasswhy are these restriced? i think thats why i did not install them before03:12
caterfxoit's something to do with licensing.03:12
glassright on.03:12
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caterfxo...in the restricted pack, some of the codecs are illegal in some countries?03:13
glassdang i had forgotten about when you install stuff and the CLI turns to a screen with the <OK> , when i did my first ever install of linux (ubuntu 14.10) that screen popped up and i could not for the life of me03:14
caterfxothere's an answer on avvo.com03:14
glassfigure out how to select the <ok> had to reinstall windows 7 update it then get on google to find out i had to hit tab03:14
caterfxolol!03:15
glassi feel like i cant be the only one that has done that lol03:15
OerHeksLegal Notice Patent and copyright laws operate differently depending on which country you are in. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats03:15
caterfxonah, i remember being plenty confised by the installer the 1st time03:15
caterfxoif you can manage to kill off gnome once or twice...03:16
glassforsure caterfxo i ran bleachbit a few days after i did that first install and was like nah theres no way i need all this junk i dont know about03:17
glassthats when i learned you kinda need a DE if your new to linux03:17
caterfxoyup03:18
caterfxoi didn't know what a rootkit was until rkhunter found one. commence panic, of course03:19
caterfxor.e.m. calleth.  'night!03:21
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pieshaWhen I open the software center nothing loads. I installed 'software-center' with apt and that works fine. Would anyone be able to help me?03:32
pieshaI updated repos and everything, I am not sure what else to do. But if nobody can help, I am okay with my work around :P03:36
zotherstupidguyi am using "setxkbmap -layout us -option ctrl:nocaps" to turn capslock into extra ctrl; but this functionality doesnot presist after restarts, any ideas how to fix it?03:40
akikzotherstupidguy: have you tried to add it as a new startup task?03:44
jairhas anyone found the solution for this Google issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/760796/how-to-fix-apt-signature-by-key-uses-weak-digest-algorithm-sha103:48
jairI am still trying to find a solution for it03:48
jairit is really annoying because I don't understand if is a security issue, or just cosmetic03:48
akikjair: it's a problem at google. not much you can do (and it's just a warning)03:49
pieshaWhen I open the software center nothing loads. I installed 'software-center' with apt and that works fine. Would anyone be able to help me?03:54
vbotkajair, I switched from chrome to chromium as suggested in the askubuntu link "you may try and install the mostly identical chromium-browser. Since it comes from the Canonical repos, it shouldn't have this issue'you may try and install the mostly identical chromium-browser. Since it comes from the Canonical repos, it shouldn't have this issue03:55
staeksaucedoes Netflix / Amazon Prime work with Chromium?03:55
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vbotkajair, you might want to review "The Difference between Google Chrome and Chromium on Linux"03:59
vbotkahttps://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/chromium_browser_vs_google_chrome.md04:00
vbotkastaeksauce, all google apps are working for me in chromium, but I have no experience with  Netflix / Amazon Prime04:02
Cyl22Hi, I'm having trouble reporting a bug.04:02
Cyl22The Debugging Page says to include extra info that I can't include in the ubuntu-bug command04:03
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Guest48342holaaaaaaaaaa04:06
shiz_my kernel headers got updated, now my wireless doesnt work. Anyone know how I take the module out so I can re-add it?04:06
killtheliterateCan anyone suggest an Ubuntu alternative to Alfred? Also, an alternative to Dash documentation browser?04:06
shiz_also, I added the module in with dkms, so how come it didnt get rebuilt automatically?04:07
jairhmm04:07
jairI am not in agreement with installing another software to fix this issue in Google chrome04:08
jairso I will hold until Google fix their repo04:08
jairwill send them another bug report as I am sure many linux users have done04:08
jairbut Thank you for your suggestions04:09
jairAFK04:09
staeksauceit's probably just something that turns your microphone on and listens in, no big deal04:09
staeksauce:p04:09
shiz_lol04:09
shiz_that's what I thought as soon as I saw 'chrome'04:09
staeksaucei wish there was some other way to watch Netflix without it04:10
shiz_does Opera not work, or midori?04:10
staeksauceI don't believe so04:11
staeksauceOpera is closed source04:11
staeksauceat least part of it04:11
Chenweiroot@chenwei-PC:/home/chenwei# sudo ./setup           sudo:./setup: command not found04:11
Chenweiwhy04:11
Chenweiwhen i try to install a setup file04:11
shiz_Opera is based on chrome though. Im using the developer version. I dont watch netflix, but its worth googling 'opera netflix'04:12
Chenweichenwei@chenwei-PC:~$ su root04:14
Chenweiroot@chenwei-PC:/home/chenwei# cd yz04:14
Chenweiroot@chenwei-PC:/home/chenwei/yz# sudo ./setup04:14
Chenweisudo: unable to execute ./setup: No such file or directory04:14
Cyl22Could someone help me with filing a bug please?04:15
shiz_so, if I try to rebuild my wireless driver, it says its already in dkms tree, but when I rmmod, it says the module doesnt exist04:15
akikChenwei: try "sudo /home/chenwei/yz/setup" from your normal account04:16
Cyl22akik: It asked me to do dmesg > ~/dmesg but it rendered no response04:16
Cyl22Do I just c/p the response from dmesg then?04:17
akikCyl22: dmesg outputs the kernel log buffer. if it's empty, something's broken04:17
shiz_cant he chmod -x, and just double click it?04:17
Chenweiakik, ah i will try04:17
akikthe thing with su is you always want su -04:18
akikin this case su - root04:18
Cyl22akik: When I enter dmesg, it works, when I enter dmesg > ~/dmesg it doesn't do anything. Does that export that somewhere that I don't know of?04:18
akikCyl22: ~/dmesg = $HOME/dmesg04:18
Cyl22ohhhh04:19
akikCyl22: found it?04:19
shiz_~ is your home folder04:19
Cyl22Yeah04:19
Cyl22Thanks04:19
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Smn_guys, I have a problem. I installed eclipse but i can't run it, I get a screen with some errors this is what the screen says http://paste.ubuntu.com/17198065/04:20
shiz_if I have a module in dkms tree, can I just rebuild it somehow, or does it have to be removed and re-added?04:21
Cyl22akik: One more question, how would I attach a "/var/log/Xorg.0.log." ?04:21
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akikCyl22: it's just a file in your file system04:21
Cyl22so I just upload the file?04:22
Cyl22right?04:22
akikCyl22: yes04:22
staeksauceanyone else get wobbly, jittery scrolling in Firefox?04:23
Cyl22akik: How do I attach multiple files? It will only let me attach one for some reason :/04:24
akikCyl22: which bug reporting system is this? one option could be creating a tar file04:24
Cyl22the ubuntu-bug04:25
Cyl22i'll make one then.04:25
shiz_also, how do I access grub bootloader configuration/settings?04:26
akikshiz_: /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d04:27
shiz_I got this message after autoremove :Removing symbolic link vmlinuz.old04:27
shiz_ you may need to re-run your boot loader[grub]04:27
akikshiz_: run "sudo update-grub" after editing /etc/default/grub04:27
shiz_thanks04:28
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shiz_in dkms, whats the difference between remove and uninstall?04:37
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purpleskyUbuntu is really pulling away hard these days.04:47
purpleskyI remember when Linux Mint was considered its equal, and everything else was way behind.04:47
akishi all. update-notifier doesn;'t work under xubuntu 16.04 (clean installation) althouthg it is enabled at 'application autostart'. I read some similar reports but no solution. Any idea or help?04:49
JackJacksonHey, anyone else have really weird looking screen after logging in and when shuting down the PC? I am using the Nvidia drivers.04:57
Wugakis: I believe there's an xubuntu channel, have you asked there? also, what version of update-notifier04:57
Wug(unfortunately I don't have a 16.04 desktop handy, so unless the versions are very similar im probably of no use)04:58
pieshaWhen I open the software center nothing loads. I installed 'software-center' with apt and that works fine. Would anyone be able to help me?04:58
pieshaAlready updated the repositories etc04:58
Wugpiesha: what version of software center, and what version of ubuntu04:58
Wugdo you know how to check?04:59
Wug(also, in my memory, the software center's always been kinda slow to load)04:59
Wugmaybe it's just still loading? how long did you leave it04:59
Wugalso I don't have ubuntu with a gui handy, only ubuntu server 16.0405:00
Wugso chances are I will be of limited usefulness :/05:00
pieshaNo I don't know how to check :/. I appear to have two different front ends for the software center. I installed one, apt-get install software-center and when I launch it from the command line it pulls up the same shopping bag icon "Ubuntu Software" from the left side of Unity. But if I just click there, nothing seems to load besides the front page05:01
pieshaTo clarify, everything works fine when I launch software-center from the terminal05:02
akisWug: i know there is a xubuntu channel, but this channel is more active and many users log both. update-notifier 3.168 (xenial).05:02
pieshathough the front page is different than the one I see when I use the GUI05:02
pieshaThanks Wug :-)05:03
olf-folkspiesha: is it a root (#) terminal or normal user ($) terminal ?05:04
pieshanormal user terminal05:04
olf-folkspiesha: this is all i found http://askubuntu.com/questions/306281/cant-open-ubuntu-software-center-except-from-the-terminal05:06
olf-folkspiesha: or this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200881505:07
Wugpiesha: probably the graphical launcher is doing the wrong thing. perhaps remove it from the launcher, run software center from the terminal, and repin it05:09
Wugif that doesn't work, there's an application shortcut thing somewhere that I'm sure you can manually edit to fix it, but it will be kind of a pain05:09
irathhi05:10
olf-folkshi05:10
irathim trying to get node working on my linux server. it says it needs python. it comes with python3. should i alias python3 to python or download an older version of python?05:10
irathim using ubuntu 16.0405:10
Wugirath: in general python programs are not backwards compatible, so install the most recent version of python 205:11
irathWug: so you recommend i download python 2.7.11?05:12
irathwhat's the recommended way of downloading and installing python? im extremely new to linux/ubuntu05:12
olf-folksapt05:12
Wugyou can install it from the command line with `sudo apt-get install python2.7`05:13
irathperfect thanks!05:13
Wug(I think that's the right package name)05:13
irathlooks like it automatically went for 2.7.1105:13
Wuguseful things to know: list all of the installed software from the command line with `dpkg --list | grep '^ii'`05:14
irathit still says " Can't find Python executable "python", you can set the PYTHON env variable."05:14
irathWug: thanks ill write that down05:14
Wugsearch the list of software in the repositories available for installation with `apt-cache search [search terms]`05:15
WugI think it wants a regular expression, not entirely sure, and it searches the package description in addition to just the name05:15
Wugoften there are a lot of results, in which case grep is probably your friend05:16
irathwell i mean i installed python with hte last command05:16
Wugok, not being able to find python05:16
irathmaybe its like windows where you need to set the path variable or something? anything like that in linux?05:16
Wugit should be installed to the system path by default05:17
Wug(that's the usual practice on linux)05:17
irathhmmmm well i did `sudo apt-get install python2.7` but it still says Can't find Python executable "python"05:18
Wugat least, for things you install via the package manager. For things you build yourself, they must usually be manually moved there (though there is often a build script to do it, typically `make install`)05:18
Wugyeah I'm thinking05:18
Wugdoes /usr/bin/python exist?05:18
Flannelirath: Just for sanity, /usr/bin/python2.7 exists, right?05:18
Wugyou did say yes to the installer if it asked you questions right05:18
irathyes that directory exists05:18
Wugthey should both be files, not directories05:19
iratho uhm..05:19
Wugdid you make a directory there?05:19
irathit's green in putty05:19
irathlol05:19
irathlet's see..05:19
Wugthat might just mean executable05:19
Flannelirath: ls -l /usr/bin/python*05:19
Tadpole_Jacksonhow do i manually add a dns server in ubuntu server 16 from the console? I can't edit resolv.conf because it warns that the file is auto generated and my changes will be lost05:19
Tadpole_Jacksonso what is the correct method?05:20
irathyeah i did the ls just not sure if it's a file or directory lol05:20
Bashing-omirath: That should be a symlink " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /usr/bin/python >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Dec 21  2013 /usr/bin/python -> python2.7 " .05:20
FlannelSo, python is correctly linked to python 2.7, that looks good.05:20
\9irath: using --color or --classify helps with that05:20
\9(I have ls aliased to use both)05:21
WugTadpole_Jackson: it should go in /etc/network/interfaces, the syntax of the option is `dns-nameservers [primary] [secondary]`05:21
irath--classify puts an astericks next to it05:21
\9irath: then it's an executable05:21
irathok05:21
Flannelirath: If you just type "python" at the prompt, you'll go into the python shell, what version does it spit out?05:21
iraththen yes i have a python2.7 executable05:21
Wugirath: can you run it directly?05:21
Wugtry /usr/bin/python (full path) from terminal05:22
irathif i type "python" and hit enter it says  The program 'python' can be found in the following packages:  * python-minimal  * python3 Try: apt install <selected package>05:22
irathi installed python2.7 though.. not sure why it's not showing up05:22
Wugirath: `echo $PATH`05:22
Wugtell us what it says05:22
irath /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin05:22
Wug/usr/bin is there...05:22
\9his terminal would be pretty broken if it wasn't there05:23
FlannelWug: and typing `/usr/bin/python` gets you into the python shell successfully?05:23
BeerLovergive me operator status :)05:23
WugFlannel: -> irath05:23
irath -bash: /usr/bin/python: No such file or directory05:23
Wugwell that's just patently wrong, isn't it05:23
\9I guess the symlink is missing then05:23
Tadpole_JacksonWug, will the changes take effect immediately?05:23
WugTadpole_Jackson: probably not, you'll need to restart networking05:24
Flannelirath: what does ls -l /usr/bin/python* give you?  (or at least, the line about python2.7)05:24
Tadpole_Jacksonsecondly; how do i disable dhcp entirely?05:24
Wugsudo ifdown [interface] and sudo ifup [interface] should do it05:24
irathit's kinda long05:24
jamesdthe problem is there are 2 competing python versions,  2 and 3...  you need to create your own symlink to the version you want to default too..05:24
Flannel!paste | irath05:24
ubottuirath: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.05:24
WugTadpole_Jackson: google for "etc network interfaces static ip example"05:24
irathill just paste without the -a05:24
irath"/usr/bin/python2.7  /usr/bin/python3.5   /usr/bin/python3-jsondiff   /usr/bin/python3-jsonpointer /usr/bin/python3    /usr/bin/python3.5m  /usr/bin/python3-jsonpatch  /usr/bin/python3m"05:24
irathor do you need the -a05:24
Tadpole_JacksonWug, i can set a static ip05:25
WugTadpole_Jackson: doing so disables dhcp05:25
irather05:25
Tadpole_Jacksonbut dhcp overrides it every 24 hours05:25
iraththe -l05:25
Wugumm.05:25
Flannelirath: that's sufficient.05:25
Wugwhat version of ubuntu is that05:25
Tadpole_Jacksonrather, after i set the manual IP05:25
irathme? 16.0405:25
Tadpole_Jacksononce the original lease for dhcp expires05:25
jamesdthen disable dhcp in your network config05:25
Tadpole_Jacksonit refreshes05:25
Tadpole_Jacksonjamesd, funny, that's what I just asked how to do05:25
WugTadpole_Jackson: do you have any dhclients running05:26
\9irath: it looks like your /usr/bin/python is missing then05:26
Wug(process: dhclient)05:26
jamesdTadpole_Jackson: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html05:26
irath\9: yeah i have a ton of pythons.. like python2.7, python3.5, etc. but no regular python. do i need one of those aliases or symlinks or soemthing?05:27
pieshaWug: thanks, I did that. Just weird, normally virtual machines don't have weird problems :D05:27
Tadpole_Jacksonthere's dhclient running as root05:27
irathjust so that "python" is mapped to something?05:27
pieshaUbuntu won't even install on my laptop natively.05:27
jamesdirath: which one do you want to run  python 2 or 3?05:27
\9irath: python is a symlink to one of the other pythons yeah05:27
\9for me it links to 2.705:27
iraththis program im using needs 2.7.1105:27
jamesdTadpole_Jackson: follow that link it will show you how configure static networking05:27
irathi think i just need a way of making "python" run python2.7.1105:27
irathhow would i do that?05:27
Tadpole_Jacksonjamesd, I know how to configure static networking. I don't know how to disable dhcp05:28
WugTadpole_Jackson: kill the dhclient, it's what's renewing your dhcp lease05:28
\9irath: sudo ln -s python2.7 /usr/bin/python05:28
\9that should install the symlink05:28
irathok let's see05:28
Wugit might be configured to launch as a service, so if it is, you would need to disable that as well05:28
jamesdTadpole_Jackson: if you have it setup as static, it won't reconfigure it...05:28
Tadpole_Jacksonjamesd, and yet that's exactly what's happening.05:28
Tadpole_Jacksonso it works about as well as php7...05:28
irath\9: wait.. before i run it.. should usr/bin/python exist?05:28
irathbecause i dont have that05:28
\9irath: no, this will create it05:28
irathok05:29
irathlet's try05:29
WugTadpole_Jackson: old versions of ubuntu had a configuration issue that would typically cause dhclients to persist after you manually configured a static ip address if you didn't reboot the box05:29
Wugim not sure if they fixed it, my box has too much uptime for me to bother restarting it05:29
Tadpole_Jacksonthe box has been rebooted05:29
Tadpole_Jacksonand this is 1605:29
Wugjust uninstall dhclient05:29
Wugproblem solved05:29
jamesdTadpole_Jackson: pastebin your  /etc/network/interaces file05:29
irathhey i think it worked05:29
irathgot more errors but they're unrelated to this problem.05:29
iraththanks05:29
\9no problem05:30
Wugirath: weird that it didnt make the symlink for you by default05:30
irathyeah idk i dont know anything about linux it's just a fresh install of ubuntu 16.0405:30
Tadpole_Jacksonjamesd, http://pastebin.com/KVBwyjYy05:30
FlannelWell, it did.  Because your previous ls showed it.  But it mustve been deleted somewhere in the middle of this conversation.05:30
irathdigital ocean made it for me05:30
jamesdWug: it saw both python 2 and 3 installed it didn't know which he wanted to be default05:31
Wugi guess maybe? but normally update-alternatives picks that (maybe its just broken on my box because it doesn't find anything python related)05:31
WugTadpole_Jackson: its hard to say because i fixed that issue like 3 years ago on an older version of ubuntu, but im pretty sure i just removed dhclient05:33
Tadpole_JacksonWug, i killed the process, we shall see how this goes05:34
tumblrwow05:34
jamesdTadpole_Jackson: its weird i have the same type of network config you do, but it works fine with just that settings.05:34
Tadpole_Jacksonideally i won't have to keep consoling in through vsphere to make ssh work again ;)05:34
tumblryou guys allow bots selling card info in here?05:34
WugTadpole_Jackson: I recommend you check the list of `service --status-all` to see if there's something there for it05:34
tumblrI'm pretty fucking triggered right now05:34
jamesdand i have dhcp-client still installed05:35
WugTadpole_Jackson: if there is, chances are it will restart on a reboot unless disabled05:35
Wugalso, check in /etc/init.d05:35
Tadpole_JacksonWug, it's sitting on an ESXi host with a battery strapped to it05:35
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Tadpole_Jacksonit's probably not going to go down for a long while05:35
tumblrno one wants to address that?05:35
Tadpole_Jacksontumblr, that's not a job for #ubuntu05:36
Tadpole_Jacksonreport it to network operators05:36
tumblrTadpole_Jackson: just like every job, right?05:36
Tadpole_JacksonIt's network administration, not channel administration05:36
Tadpole_JacksonSo yeah.05:36
tumblrTadpole_Jackson: nah I was talking about your shit taste in distro05:36
tumblrget fucked fam05:36
Tadpole_Jacksontumblr, cent 7?05:37
Tadpole_Jacksonslackware?05:37
tumblrTadpole_Jackson: gentoo or kill yourself05:37
Tadpole_JacksonRHEL?05:37
tumblrI grew up on slack 2.2.105:37
Tadpole_JacksonNah man, I spend my time doing work, not playing with toys~05:37
tumblrTadpole_Jackson: thats why your wife is leaving you05:37
tumblrRIP05:37
Tadpole_Jackson:(05:37
jamesdi started with 2.3 and then moved to slackware 95...05:37
WugI converted an ubuntu into a debian by accident once05:37
Tadpole_Jacksonyou know what's fun?05:38
netsinyour mom?05:38
Wugtl;dr it's all the same thing with different packages installed05:38
tumblrWug: Tadpole_Jackson created ubuntu to destroy families05:38
Tadpole_Jacksontrying to resolve a failed dependency on a hacky out of date custom one-off version of debian05:38
Tadpole_Jacksonrunning on embedded hardware05:38
Tadpole_Jacksonubuntu is an african word for "I don't want to mess with centos"05:38
tumblrTadpole_Jackson: fuck outta here fcsPS05:38
netsinsounds like you need some ganja and RocketLeaue in your life05:38
tumblrfscOS*05:38
Wugim pretty sure there's a --fuck-you-i-know-what-im-doing-install-just-this-package-without-dependency-checking switch somewhere05:39
Wugprobably on dpkg05:39
Tadpole_Jacksonwell in this case the dep was required05:40
Wugso do one then the other05:40
Tadpole_Jacksonanyway, much hacky later, i finally got gcc installed on the box05:40
tumblrWug: prettu sure Tadpole_Jackson is the cancer that killed FOSS05:40
Tadpole_Jacksonfrom gcc, all things become possible.05:40
tumblrTadpole_Jackson: your wife left, why are you even breathing05:40
Wugtumblr: I'm pretty sure you know just as well as we all do that unless that alleged bot talks we have no insight into what it is or does because freenode's whoising is retarded05:41
Wugand also that it's pretty easy to fake 1 line of logs05:41
tumblrWug: but its fun to play. you can't tell me you wouldn't pay an underage thai lady boy to fuck his boipucci05:41
WugI don't necessarily doubt that it's garbage that should be killed but freenode's staff have made it their own problem by completely disabling the ability of users to find anything out by themselves05:42
tumblrWug: its all fun and games til someone catches on, right?05:42
Wugso go bug them about it if it triggers you so hard05:42
Tadpole_JacksonWug, it hit me too05:43
Tadpole_JacksonI just don't care05:43
tumblrTadpole_Jackson: kind of like those support payments you can't afford because you took up a crippling alcohol dependency, huh?05:43
Tadpole_Jacksonsomething like that.05:43
Tadpole_JacksonYour mother has been a valuable shoulder to cry on though.05:43
Tadpole_JacksonSo I really do appreciate the help she's been giving me.05:43
tumblrTadpole_Jackson: man if you dig up corpses to cry on them there's a whole fuck of a lot more wrong with you than i thought05:44
tumblrget help05:44
Tadpole_JacksonHey man I wasn't the one who did the digging. Besides, she's very well preserved.05:44
* Wug presents Tadpole_Jackson with +R05:44
irathomg it worked!05:44
tumblrTadpole_Jackson: must have been all the cumshots to her face I gave her as a toddler05:44
irathmy website actually works05:45
\9!ops05:45
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu05:45
tumblrirath: whats the URL?05:45
irathhaha im actually afraid of posting it here.. everyone here knows computers too well my site is not very secure! lol05:45
irathbut still i was expecting to spend the next 12 hours getting this working05:45
irathjust started working on this 30 minutes ago..05:45
tumblrirath: dont worry we are all friends here, 4friends05:45
Tadpole_Jacksonare you using tomcat and mongodb?05:45
Tadpole_Jacksonirath,05:45
irathno im using postgres05:45
tumblrTadpole_Jackson: my mom didnt say you could talk necrophile05:46
Wugtumblr: 172.25.67.19905:46
Tadpole_Jackson...wait are you actually using tomcat?05:46
irathno05:46
irathwhats that?05:46
Tadpole_Jacksongood.05:46
Tadpole_Jacksonit's apache05:46
Tadpole_Jacksonbut05:46
Tadpole_Jacksonwritten in java05:46
irathjust node, postgres, react, javascript05:46
\9what kind of pitch is that?05:46
tumblrTadpole_Jackson: so are you going to pay me for this child porn or not05:46
tumblrer05:46
tumblrerotic underage "models"05:46
elkytumblr: stop.05:46
Tadpole_Jacksontomcat is the reason i'm going to need a new liver.05:46
tumblrelky: sorry "professional" but he owes a great deal05:47
tumblrand I found him05:47
Wugelky: I'm pretty sure that stopping is not on his to-do list05:47
tumblrso its time to pay up05:47
pyrony@ops: Dumps1o1Full is spamming Bank Accounts for sale...05:47
Wugelky: you should probably kick the bot too05:47
Wug^05:48
elkypyrony: in PM?05:48
pyronyyep05:48
elkypyrony: please paste me an example in PM for future reference05:48
pyronysure05:48
WugTadpole_Jackson: share what it messaged you too05:48
Dumps1o1Fulllier05:49
elkyany other troublemakers lost in the backlog?05:51
irathwow just got here and 2 bans already.. didnt know ubuntu was such a hot target lol05:51
\9none that I know of05:51
elkyirath: big channels tend to get them no matter the topic05:51
elkyjust carry on with your day :)05:51
irathprobably one of the demographics least likely to fall for spam..05:51
irathseems like a waste of time05:52
\9some people have nothing better to do05:52
yourname2what were they offering?05:52
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staeksaucehow can I have Plank start automatically when I boot05:52
elkyillegal stuff. now lets move on and stop giving them attention05:52
underd0gokay sorry05:52
oaulakhcan anyone help me with why ubuntu 16.04 freezing like hell ?06:05
oaulakhanyone?06:07
oaulakhcan anyone help me with why ubuntu 16.04 freezing like hell ?06:12
stickybranchesWhats seems to be the matter?06:12
stickybranchesCan you tell me your hardware06:13
stickybranchesDid you install proper drivers? (nvidia/amd or intel gpu requires no proprietary drivers)06:14
jason_oaulakh, can you describe the problem with a bit more detail?06:15
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oaulakhjason_, its freezing, nothing more i can say, my screen get freeze and i can not control it for more than 2 min and than again everything goes right and again freezd06:19
jason_So it boots fine, correct? You are using stock Ubuntu - Unity desktop?06:20
jason_Are you running any applications? Browser? Anything Electron based?06:20
oaulakhjason_, yes it's boot fine! of course application like browser firefox and alot more, it just freeze06:22
jason_Does it freeze if you aren't running a lot of applications?06:22
oaulakhjason_, no06:23
oaulakhjason_, means it was working fine before but i dunno what happen now06:23
jason_So if you shut down all the applications but Hexchat, it is fine?06:23
oaulakhjason_, yes it's fine, it's main problem with firefox06:24
oaulakhjason_, whenever i start firefox it just gets angry! hahah06:24
jason_Ah. Firefox. Have you tried using Chrome or Chromium instead?06:24
oaulakhjason_, no06:24
jason_Even Opera. That is a pretty good browser.06:24
jason_Yeah, give Firefox a break and use Chromium if you want pure open source or install Chrome if you want a few more proprietary bells and whistles.06:25
oaulakhjason_, no i'm thinking about chrome so, and also updating my device drivers like nvidia maybe problem is somewhere in drivers or gpu processing something, is there any way i can clean firefox cache?06:25
jason_If the problem goes away, something is going on with Firefox. That isn't normal, but hey, it gets you closer to an answer.06:26
oaulakhjason_, yup, thanks will let you know if it solves06:26
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jason_And if that doesn't solve it, then you don't waste time chasing down the wrong problem. :)06:27
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oaulakh;)06:27
jason_I wouldn't mess with the drivers too much unless you know what you are doing.06:28
jason_What kind of hardware are you running on?06:28
jason_Certain hardware, particularly Macs, are very sensitive to specific versions of NVidia drivers. Once you get it working, you never update.06:29
dsnyders#android06:30
jason_And what version of Ubuntu are you running?06:30
oaulakhjason_, its ubuntu 16.04 and i am running nvidia 410m pretty old ;)06:33
oaulakhjason_, basically it's sony vpceh25en laptop06:34
jason_Were you able to solve the problem by moving off of Firefox?06:37
oaulakhjason_, first i'm updating hardware drivers and than i will install chrome, internet not that fast :(06:38
jason_I guess I should ask - is this a recent upgrade, and then the problem started? Did you build it from the ISO or upgrade from 15.10?06:38
oaulakhjason_, from iso06:38
jason_And recent? Like did you just now install from ISO, but maybe you haven't applied all the updates yet?06:39
oaulakhjason_, yeah i didn't apply updates yet!06:40
jason_Ah. That is most likely the problem. The original 16.04 had some bugs, and there have been a number of fixes released to address those.06:41
oaulakhjason_, ok so i will update too06:42
jason_I installed 16.04 the day it came out, and it seems to be quite a bit more stable now than it was then.06:42
TrentHHello, I have a icon on my desktop and whenever I open it it says "Do you want to execute, execute in terminal, open file" how do I set it to automatically execute?06:45
underd0gTrentH: there should be an option to execute it however you like when you right click on the icon06:55
ultronhi06:59
ultronhello everyone07:01
ultron1231hello07:05
auronandaceultron1231: you're not an umgah are you?07:05
ultron1231what do you mean by umgah07:06
auronandacesorry, its utwig isn't it07:06
ultron1231no I'm from India07:07
finn_gkGood daytime. There is a minor bug in nautilus-open-terminal that appeared after upgrading from Ubuntu 14 to 16. It is now preinstalled, but one cannot open a terminal in the desktop anymore: this terminal will be opened in the home directory instead.07:07
ultron1231are you from utwing07:07
finn_gknow it is07:07
auronandaceultron1231: your nick reminded me of a game where the ultron is a device07:07
ultron1231kk07:08
ultron1231I like this character from avengers 2 age of ultron07:08
finn_gkMaybe this behavior is intentionally, but for me it seems not to be logical in any way.07:11
finn_gkintentional07:12
auronandacefinn_gk: whenever you open a terminal the default is to be in the home directory07:12
auronandacefinn_gk: some file managers will allow you to right click and select open terminal here07:12
ultron1231type ctrl + alt +T07:14
ultron1231to open an terminal07:14
computerpeople, anyone knows how to use the ed command? i keep trying to use a command by i only get a question mark. please help07:15
ikoniacomputer: what are you trying to do ?07:15
computerikonia: i want to run the following command: ed -s 1 <<< $'/xxxxx/+2s/^$/zz/\nwq'07:16
ikoniacomputer: not going to work07:16
computerikonia: you helped me with yesterday07:16
computerikonia: why not? how can i make it work?07:16
ikoniait's not a valid command for ed07:17
ikonia"man ed" to understand how ed works,07:17
computerikonia: ok,07:17
computershould i change it to: ed -s $'/xxxxx/+2s/^$/zz/\nwq' filename?07:20
ikoniaI don't understand why you are not just typing the file name07:20
finn_gkThe problem is, that on the desktop there is "open terminal" instead of "open terminal here".07:20
computerikonia: i am trying to add text 2 lines after a cetrain string xxxxx07:20
auronandacefinn_gk: a terminal always defaults to the home directory07:21
ikoniaso without knowing the file path, that looks sane, but I can't check your ed syntax for you07:21
finn_gkThat's true, it might not be a bug, but "open terminal" should be replaced with "open terminal here".07:23
computerikonia: i tried ed -s /home/computer/Desktop/1 <<< $'/xxxxx/+2s/^$/zz/\nwq' but i still get a question mark07:23
ducassefinn_gk: most people would expect and want the terminal to open in their home dir.07:24
auronandacefinn_gk: if you want to change where it opens then change the .desktop entry of that terminal07:24
ikoniacomputer: then your sntax is wrong, you're probably not terminating it07:24
finn_gkI have a terminal starter in my starters bar that opens in the home directory, that is just fine.07:25
computerikonia:  i am sure my syntax is wrong,07:25
ikoniacomputer: is the name of the file "1"07:26
computerikonia: yes07:26
ikoniacomputer: then you have not read the man page07:26
finn_gkfrom where to grep -nr "\.desktop" ./ ??07:28
auronandacefinn_gk: depends on what desktop environment you are using, if it is simply an icon on your desktop you could simply right click it and edit that launcher07:30
computerikonia: i still don't understand, when i excecute ed i get an emputy screen and everything i do i get a ? , i cannot even exit by ctl-C07:32
computerikonia: i am looking for youtube videos to show me how to use ed, but there is no explanation and usually youtube corrects my search from ed to sed07:33
ikoniayoutube is not a way to use a text editor07:33
ikoniacomputer: have you read the man page07:33
finn_gkThere are already some issues (as expected): https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus-open-terminal/+bugs07:33
computerikonia: yes, but i did not understand it.07:34
ikoniacomputer: show me the command you are using07:34
computerikonia: ed07:35
elkyikonia: I believe he did a few times now.07:35
computerikonia: i am trying to understand how it works first,07:35
ikoniacomputer: the exact command you are currently using07:35
ikoniaelky: he's changed it07:35
computered -s filename <<< $'/xxxxx/+2s/^$/zz/\nwq'07:35
ikoniaok, so a) why the <<<07:35
ikonialook at the synopsis on the man page - the first line07:36
ikoniaed [-] [-sx] [-p string] [file]07:36
ikoniahow does the syntax look different to your input07:36
computerikonia: hmm  ok,,,  so filename comes in the end07:36
computered -s $'/xxxxx/+2s/^$/zz/\nwq' filename07:36
ikoniagetting better07:37
ikoniaif you also look at "sed" examples you'll get examples of the syntax for the change07:37
ikoniabut it's getting closer07:38
computerikonia: -p?07:38
Encinghi  allll07:48
ubuntu:)07:57
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BangankaHi, I'm running 14.04.4, how do I make wifi reconnect automatically?07:59
stickybranchesWell07:59
Bangankacurrently whenever it drops I have to go through the menu in the notification drawer and reconnect it manually which is annoying07:59
stickybranchesIf you got an issue like that, @Banganka, do this: open terminal07:59
stickybranchestype the following, it may need a reboot 'sudo systemctl stop NetworkManager' then 'sudo systemctl start NetworkManager'08:00
stickybranchesIt could be your WiFi driver too, do you have the correct/sufficient drivers installed?08:00
Bangankastickybranches: how will restarting network manager help? seems like simply a different manual step..08:01
Bangankastickybranches: wifi works fine when it's connected, so I presume the drivers are ok. I update regularly08:01
stickybranchesBanganka: I used to have a similar problem where the Network Manager required a little push (basically restart) in order for it to work08:02
stickybranchesHmm..08:02
Bangankastickybranches: yet this behaviour persists over reboots of the whole system, surely network manager can't maintain broken state over a full reboot that gets fixed by a service restart?08:02
stickybranchesHmm.. Interesting08:02
stickybranchesBtw, how do I specifically mention your name?08:03
stickybranchesLike you are doing with my username?08:03
stickybranchesTry out WICD client08:03
stickybranchesAn alternative to Network-Manager08:03
Bangankastickybranches: just type first few letters then press tab, unless your irc client is truly ancient08:05
stickybranchesWICD also happens to fix other issues with NM, such as random channel searching which in result increases the PING08:06
Bangankawicd? hm I can try.. how hard will ubuntu fight me to install it?08:06
stickybranchesBanganka, sudo apt install wicd08:06
stickybranchesI use HexChat08:06
Bangankastickybranches: oh I know how, but I find that ubuntu likes to fight about things sometimes08:06
Bangankastickybranches: I use kvirc, it's rather more advanced, try it sometime.. just beware that the default config is kinda ugly but you can change it to whatever you like08:07
Bangankawicd installed, how do I kick out NM and use it?08:08
stickybranchesDo the following: 'sudo systemctl stop NetworkManager'08:08
stickybranches'sudo systemctl disable NetworkManager08:08
ikoniayou shouldn't need to stop network manager for this08:09
ikoniaif your wifi is not auto-reconnecting you have a different proble08:09
BangankaI don't have systemctl08:09
stickybranchesOh, does it use upstart?08:09
stickybranchesI got a tutorial for that, let me find it one sec bro :)08:09
Bangankano idea, not particularly familiar with ubuntu, this is my GF's laptop.. I'm a gentoo guy myself08:10
stickybranchesTry this: sudo stop network-manager'sudo stop network-manager'08:10
stickybrancheswhoops08:10
_fireionHi. I recently brought a new laptop and I seem to have a lot of errors in my dmesg.08:10
stickybranches'sudo stop network-manager'08:10
stickybranches_fireion, post a screenshot please :)08:10
_fireionsudo service stop network-manager I think that might be what you want.08:10
Bangankastickybranches: hm, perhaps you're after 'service', ie sudo service stop .. etc?08:10
_fireionSorry08:11
Bangankaikonia: any idea what it might be?08:11
_fireionsudo service network-manager stop08:11
_fireionI do it all the time.08:11
stickybranchesBanganka, here, it should help you out: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/3xipom/how_to_eliminate_ping_spikes/08:11
_fireionTo get my wifi running.08:11
stickybranches_fireion, we are talking about replacing NetworkManager with WICD here :)08:11
ikoniaBanganka: depends, how have you debugged this08:12
_fireionYes.08:12
_fireionI know.08:12
_fireionI installed ubuntu 16.0408:12
stickybranchesso basically, use WICD which in a way is better (I use NM myself with MATE)08:12
stickybranchesOn 16.04, we use systemD08:12
_fireionAnd reinstalled to 15.10 because of it's network-manager08:12
stickybranchesso therefore commands are a bit different08:12
stickybranchessame with 15.1008:12
Bangankaikonia: poked around in dmesg and syslog, can't see anything there that tells me why NM doessn't want to auto reconnect to known APs08:12
stickybranchesBanganka, has 14.04.408:12
ikoniaBanganka: do you see it drop the connection ?08:13
_fireionWICD does not disconnect intermittently08:13
_fireionWICD works with 802.1X.08:13
_fireionThat's what I found good about it.08:13
stickybranchesThat is true08:13
_fireionIt looks really bad though.08:13
Bangankaikonia: yeah it talks about dropping, then never says anything about trying to reconnect.. seems like it just chooses to not try for reasons unknown08:13
stickybranchesITs a good alternative to NM08:13
ikoniaBanganka: is this a brodcom wifi card ?08:13
_fireionlspci08:13
stickybranchesalso good for gamers since NM scans for cleaner channels which disrupts ping and generates huge ping spikes08:13
stickybranchesDo lspci as _fireion said08:14
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ikonianetwork manager does what you tell it to do08:14
Bangankaikonia: Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)08:14
_fireionI don't think it has to do with card. The network-manager is bad.08:14
_fireionI have seen it happen over all the laptops in my college :-P08:14
stickybranchesinstall WICD gtk from https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/3xipom/how_to_eliminate_ping_spikes/08:14
ikonia_fireion: how have you worked out that network manager is the problem here08:14
stickybranchesit should help you out08:14
ikoniawhat investigation have you done08:14
Bangankaikonia: on several embedded systems I've had to nuke NM just to get networking to function at all08:15
_fireionI reverted back to 15.10 and just used to sudo service network-manager restart.08:15
stickybranchesEven though it says its related to ping spikes, it will help you with the auto disconnect after sleep/connection dropout08:15
ikoniaBanganka: what has that got to do with your current situation08:15
stickybranchesThats all I can help you with buddy :)08:15
Bangankaikonia: not much, but it indicates to me that NM may not be well polished08:15
ikoniaBanganka: no, it indicates that you've had a problem08:16
k1lstickybranches: suspend and connection dropouts are driver /module issues, not NM issues08:16
ikoniaBanganka: I've got network manager on over 5000 machines, zero problem, does that mean it's perfectly stable ?08:16
stickybrancheskIl: oh ok :) my bad08:16
stickybranchesk1l, oh ok :) my bad08:16
Bangankaikonia: yeah I have a problem, NM won't reconnect to wifi APs I've connected to before unless I pull up the menu in the notification drawer and click on the AP name08:16
_fireionOkay My turn. See the log : http://pastebin.com/pwPBxw6F08:16
_fireiondmesg08:16
ikoniaBanganka: I don't believe network manager is your problem without futher investigation, so I'll let you get on with your current approach08:17
k1lNM was an issue some time ago. but it got stable over the last years. but the myths are still there, that NM is an issue. nevertheless wifi drivers are still a big issue.08:17
BangankaThe "automatically connect to this network when available" option is selected08:17
stickybranches_fireion, what are the symptoms? hardware?08:17
Bangankabut it doesn't do it :/08:17
_fireionSometimes chrome hangs08:17
_fireionEspecially when I play youtube08:17
ikoniaBanganka: yet you have no idea why08:18
_fireionThe audio / video keeps running08:18
stickybranches_fireion, thats probably due to chrome the app08:18
_fireionRead line 102008:18
Bangankaikonia: nope, can't find anything relevant in logs, and don't know how to make NM more verbose about its internal reasoning08:18
_fireionof my log08:18
stickybranches_fireion, have you tried it without Flash, try chromium or firefox, ok I will read 102008:18
Banganka_fireion: go to youtube.com/html5 and turn it on, see if that helps08:19
k1l_fireion: your hdd got issues.08:19
ikoniaBanganka: there is an ubuntu wiki page specficially to do with debugging network manager08:19
_fireionBut I just brought the laptop now :-P.08:19
_fireionI am running smart test btw.08:19
Bangankaikonia: care to link me? google doesn't work in china and the alternatives are useless08:19
ikoniahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingNetworkManager08:19
k1l_fireion: did you install bumblebee manually?08:20
Banganka_fireion: turns out pastebin is blocked in china... :/08:20
_fireionNo, PPA.08:20
stickybranches_fireion, here refer to this forum post regarding LINE:1020 http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=21974608:20
_fireiongraphics-drivers08:20
k1l_fireion: bumblebee?08:20
Bangankaikonia: thanks08:20
_fireionI just added ppa graphics-drivers and did sudo apt-get install nvidia-364.08:20
stickybranchesREfer to that article to clarify a few things, hope that helps buddy! :) *** http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=219746 ***08:21
_fireionI don't think it uses bumblebee08:21
Bangankaikonia: ok set NM to debug log, will see what turns up next time the wifi drops08:21
k1l_fireion: did you try the regular ubuntu nvidia driver?08:21
ikoniaBanganka: I'm not saying you don't have a bug - you very well may, however it's more likley in my view that it will be down to the card model, kernel options for that card and the way network manager is loading them08:21
_fireionThat never worked.08:22
_fireionMy laptop just won't login after that.08:22
ikoniaBanganka: changing the wrapper that does that for you (eg: removing network manager) won't fix that IF that is the right problem08:22
_fireionAnd at that time I didn't know about x server logs. So I did not read on how to fix it.08:22
ikoniaI'd just like to see people actually do more research into a problem before randomly suggesting making changes08:22
_fireionNM logs in /var/log/syslog right ?08:23
Banganka_fireion: seems that way, yeah08:23
ikoniait will log systems events there08:23
_fireionWhere is the full detailed log ?08:23
Banganka_fireion: seems like it doesn't make one unless you ask for it as per ikonia's link08:24
_fireionOh. Okay. Thanks.08:24
ikoniarunning a network manager in debug mode by default would be crazy08:24
_fireionWell I'll keep checking the logs if it happens again I'll ask them to replace motherboard and HDD. Good that my laptop is in onsite warranty.08:25
_fireionAnd cables. That should solve it right ?08:25
_fireionAnyways last time I ran network-manager. I wasn't able to connect to my hostel LAN, nor was I able to connect to any wifi. So I had to revert back to old ubuntu.08:26
_fireionon 16.0408:27
joakimkI'm trying to re-install GRUB bootloader on dual boot (ubuntu/windows) after reinstalling the windows partition. http://askubuntu.com/questions/83771/recovering-grub-after-installing-windows-708:36
joakimkHowever, "re-install GRUB in the MBR" gives me problems08:36
joakimkfdisk -l tells me /dev/sda1 is the boot disk (it's indicated with * under "boot"). But when I type, sudo grub-install /dev/sda1 I get errors complaining about it being NTFS formatted08:38
joakimk"File system 'ntfs' doesn't support embedding. GRUB can only be installed on this setup by using blocklists, which are UNRELIABLE"...... what do I do?08:38
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ikoniajoakimk: you're trying to intsall to a partition08:40
ikonianot the disk08:40
ikoniathe partition is ntfs - so it won't work08:40
joakimkNow to re-install grub in the MBR. You will need to know which disk your system boots from, and find it in the fdisk -l listing you have already done. Then type in sudo grub-install /dev/sd· replacing sd· with the disk you will boot from.08:40
joakimkdid I misunderstand the instructions?08:40
ikoniayes08:40
ikonialook at the command you issued08:40
ikoniaand look at the example in the text you just pasted08:41
joakimkah! you mean, I'm only to enter /dev/sda08:41
joakimk?08:41
ikoniayes08:41
joakimkperfect!08:41
joakimkthanks08:41
Guest92750holaa08:42
joakimkikonia: sorry, one more thing? I get a syntax error near unexpected token do, on: sudo for i in /sys /proc /dev/pts /dev; do sudo umount /mnt$i; done08:44
_fireionHo. Finally got rid of another error in ubuntu. Chrome kept asking for default browser option.08:44
ikoniajoakimk: just manually mount each file system then08:45
joakimkbut this is to unmount them?08:45
joakimkor?08:45
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ikoniasorry - unmount them08:45
joakimkyou mean, just sudo umount /sys etc08:45
joakimkok08:45
joakimktarget is busy...08:46
ikoniayou'll find you're probably still using one of the partitions08:46
ikoniayes, there you go08:46
ikoniatype 'pwd'08:46
joakimkhm08:46
ikoniasee where you are08:46
joakimk /home/ubuntu08:46
joakimkI'm booting from a live-CD (USB)08:46
joakimkbtw08:46
ikoniasee what is using those file systems/mounts08:46
ikoniarun fuser -fuc against them08:46
joakimkhow do you mean?08:47
joakimk:)08:47
ikoniaa process is using them - so you can't unmount them08:47
joakimkfuser -fuc /sys08:47
ikonianot /sys08:47
ikonia /sys is /sys from the livecd08:47
ikoniayou want /sys from within your temporary filesystem08:47
ikoniaor you can just reboot and it will sort it out in the reboot08:48
joakimkbut sudo for i in /sys /proc /dev/pts /dev; do sudo umount /mnt$i; done <--- this unmounts all those, right?08:48
ikoniayou won't be a able to do that,08:48
joakimkwhy do I get a syntax error... odd.08:48
joakimkanyway08:48
joakimkdo I need to do this final stage of the instructions, or am I sort of done already?08:48
ikoniajoakimk: again look at the command08:48
joakimkyes08:48
ikoniait's unmounting /mnt/sys08:49
ikonianot /sys08:49
joakimkyes!08:49
joakimkso I should do, manually, sudo umount /mnt/sy08:49
joakimks08:49
ikoniaso running fuser against /mnt/sys (or whatever) will dell you wants using it and you can stop it from using it08:49
ikoniaand then the umount will work08:49
CrackedCrackerHello.08:49
CrackedCrackerCan't get touchpad-indicator working on ubuntu 16.04, the thing doesn't even start08:49
CrackedCrackerin terminal the only thing i get is08:49
CrackedCracker"touchpad-indicator : command not found"08:49
CrackedCrackerIt seems to be installed properly, at least synaptic doesn't show any errors08:49
CrackedCrackerReboot haven't helped.08:49
joakimkikonia: doing themn manually worked fine, with sudo umount /mnt/sys08:50
joakimkprefixing everything (all dirs) with 7mnt08:50
joakimkikonia: thanks!08:51
joakimkseems to have worked. Rebooting now and got the boot loader back!08:51
joakimk:D08:51
idsI just moved from linuxmint to ubuntu 16.04 (mate), but it I can't get my bluetooth mouse to work. It shows up in the device list and correctly pairs (so it says), but the mouse stays in pairing mode. Also, the bluetooth has crashed 2 times after several tries to connect08:54
idsbrb reboot08:58
Rusted`Metalhi users08:59
Rusted`Metalsmall question can we install browser chrome(google) in ubuntu08:59
idsYes, I believe it's even in the software managers09:00
Rusted`MetalThanks@ids09:00
ducasseids: chrome is not in the ubuntu repos.09:06
Cedaragood morning, running ubuntu16.04, need to unrar an archive that has an password - what do I need to install to make that work? unrar?09:06
\9Cedara: unrar or unrar-free09:07
Cedarathanks!09:08
ids@ducasse: no, but you can it install it through the ubuntu software center, it's listed there09:09
ducasseids: you need to install google's repo for that.09:11
ids@ducasse I did a clean install of ubuntu mate, can't remember adding a google repo09:13
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ducasseids: i can't find it on packages.ubuntu.com or with apt search, it should be there if it's in the repos.09:14
staeksaucecan't you just download the .deb from google and install it via the software center09:14
staeksaucethink that's what I did09:14
ids@ducasse @staeksauce: maybe that's what I did, and it appeared after installing09:15
ducasseids: you must have, it's not in the repos.09:16
user26Is there any lightweight desktop environment that supports programmatic configuration (like gconf)?09:17
ducasseuser26: xfce does, i think.09:19
CedaraInterestingly unrar-free didn't do what I wanted, had to use unrar.09:20
alicerosasalut09:22
alicerosacc09:23
alicerosabonjour09:23
EriC^^alicerosa: tu parles englais?09:24
useraahi, does anyone know any games that work well with pc logitech game joystick/joypads?09:29
useraaI mean pc games that run on Windows xp/vista/7/8/10 etc..09:30
EriC^^/join #windows09:31
EriC^^useraa: ^09:31
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Mionuser26: go to steam, list by controller support, done09:58
Mioner... useraa ^09:58
user26Mion: Oh, you gave me a shiver of hope. :P09:59
user26Mion: Nobody seems to have an answer for me.10:00
MonkeyDustuser26  repeat your question every 10-15 minutes, until someone enters who can help10:01
MonkeyDustin one line10:01
user26MonkeyDust: Thanks.10:02
user26Is there any lightweight desktop environment (like Xfce) that supports programmatic configuration (the gconf way)?10:02
idshow can I downgrade bluez5 to 4? I cannot get my mouse (or phone for that matter) to work. I think my mint installation still used 4 and it worked flawlessly10:02
MonkeyDustids  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue10:03
ids`Ubuntu 16.04 LTS \n \l`10:04
ids@MonkeyDust connecting thu bluetoothctl gives Failed to connect: org.bluez.Error.Failed10:06
MonkeyDustids  start with installing blueman10:07
ids@MonkeyDust already installed10:07
user__hi all. how to know from which repository was installed each package, even this repo doesn't exists in the sources lists anymore?10:07
PandaBobgood question10:15
ducasseuser__: in that case those packages will be listed as locally installed.10:16
PandaBobhow long does it take to become an expert at ubuntu10:16
MonkeyDustPandaBob  depends on how smaqrt you are10:17
MonkeyDustsmart*10:17
ids@PandaBob |---------------------| (approx.)10:17
PandaBobhmm10:17
* PandaBob might play video games instead10:18
sadleeHi there. Is there an irssi support channel. It's about 5 years since I used IRC and I've forgotten almost everything I ever knew10:18
MonkeyDustPandaBob  yes, become a game expert10:18
MonkeyDustsadlee  i use irssi, what do you want to know10:18
sadleeI can't remember how to move windows10:19
akiksadlee: #irssi on freenode has 520 users (at least)10:19
sadleeOh it didn't join me10:19
sadleeI'll try again10:19
MonkeyDustsadlee  /window move left|right10:19
sadleeThank you very much10:19
user__ <ducasse> can you tell me how to see all packages installed locally?10:20
sadleeIt's not quite like riding abike :)10:20
ducasseuser__: the easiest way is to use synaptic.10:20
sadleeI can remember the real basics MonkeyDust but all the rest has gone. I will have to RTFM all over again. But thanks for what I needed to know right now :)10:23
Combined2857Hello, could someone give me help on how to add more info to this bug, which seems like kernel regression ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/157089910:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1570899 in linux (Ubuntu) "Suspend problem with kernel 4.4" [Medium,Confirmed]10:23
ikoniaCombined2857: what do you need /10:24
ikonia?10:24
Combined2857ikonia: i would like to help fix this bug10:24
Rurd2dihey guys , i need a hand , i have just installed latest nvida drivers, but cant change my 2 side monitors beyond 800x600 and iother is stuck at 640x800. i tried looking at the xorg.conf but its empty10:24
Rurd2diany ideas on how i can fix this10:24
Combined2857by providing all the info i need10:24
ikoniaCombined2857: so what do you need10:24
Combined2857ikonia: I do not understand the instructions those people give me, and I cannot execute them after i press sleep button, because the screen never comes up again so I manually shut down the computer10:25
Bluesugar hello guys! can someone help me with opening a us bank account for non resident in the U.S.A10:25
ikoniaCombined2857: so isnt' that a problem, that the screen never comes back up10:26
MonkeyDustBluesugar  this is ubuntu support10:26
Tin_manBluesugar, wrong channel, you need ubanku10:26
Bluesugarsorry guys10:26
Combined2857ikonia: yes it is, and I can't provide a command output after suspending because the screen is black10:26
Combined2857ikonia: the main problem with the bug is that the laptop is not suspending10:27
BluesugarThanks Tin_man10:27
ikoniaCombined2857: so what information are you trying to get ?10:27
Tin_manBluesugar, you need to just call a bank and have them direct you to the right source10:28
Combined2857ikonia: I don't know, anything that might help people to fix this problem, Clem asked me to "Please provide dmesg output after pressing the sleep button"10:28
ikoniaI have no idea who clem is - I suggest trying to engage with Clem directly, if Clem wants specifics talk to him about it10:29
MonkeyDustCombined2857  Clem is the Mint guy... are you in Mint now?10:29
BluesugarTin_man, you mean calling the U.S bank?10:29
Combined2857MonkeyDust: yes I am, but this bug is filed under ubuntu because it is a kernel regression10:29
Tin_manyes10:29
ikoniaBluesugar: Tin_man this is nothing to do with ubuntu10:30
ikoniaplease keep it out of this channel10:30
Rurd2dixrandr -s 1920x108010:31
Rurd2dioops10:31
Rurd2diwrong window10:31
MionRurd2di: this is not the terminal you are looking for /me waves hand10:35
Rurd2dihmm10:36
Rurd2dixrandr rejects my reuqests10:37
Rurd2dii need 1920x1080 god damn you linux10:37
Rurd2di800x600 is so fucken shit10:37
MonkeyDustRurd2di  stop10:37
HackerIIyou wont get any help with language like that10:37
MionRurd2di: vga cable?10:38
ikoniaRurd2di: do not swear10:38
Rurd2di1 display port ,1 hdmi and 1 dvi10:40
Rurd2didvi is find10:40
Combined2857so ikonia or MonkeyDust any ideas on how to give more info to the bug ?10:40
Rurd2dijust other 2 wont place nice10:40
ikoniaCombined2857: talk to "Clem"10:42
ikoniaCombined2857: if he's asking for info that you can't provide, ask him how he expects you to get it10:42
ikoniaother than that just provide the info you have10:42
ikoniaif you're running this on mint - I suggest you work this through with the mint guys10:43
Combined2857ok thanks ikonia10:43
sadleeThat's the one area where ubuntu is defintely better than Mint - the support system is much better established10:43
* sadlee 's own opinion of course10:44
user__<ducasse>, thanks10:45
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SkizuI'm looking to do a byte for byte clone of a drive as I got a new bigger once. I'm currently on the live disk... how can I do this?11:03
ikoniaare you sure you want byte for byte11:03
ikoniaas that won't work take into acount the new size of the disk11:03
ikoniado you basically want to move your OS to a new disk and make use of the space ?11:03
SkizuI thought I could sort that with gparted after?11:03
ikoniawant to do it in one easy hit ? just use clonezilla11:04
popeyor indeed gparted11:04
popeygparted has a "copy and paste" option which is fun11:04
popeyclick partition, copy, click new disk, paste11:04
ikoniawhen did that creep in11:04
SkizuThe drive I'm cloning is a windows one, that doesn't matter does it?11:04
ikonianever seen that11:04
popeyyears ago11:04
popeyyeah, i only used it once or twice11:05
ikoniaSkizu: nope,11:05
popeybut, I would still use clonezilla as a preference11:05
popeybecause you can do the intermediate step of having a full image in case things go wrong11:05
ikoniathe resize on clonezilla is very good and clever if you watch how it does it11:05
popeyso you can re-do the paste11:05
popeyyeah, +100 to clonezilla11:05
ikoniaas in clone and resize in one click, it's clever how they do it11:05
popeyit might matter to windows if you clone it11:05
popeywindows gets a bit picky about being moved from one disk to another11:06
popeycan be done, but be careful and keep backups11:06
SkizuOkay I'll google clonezilla11:06
SkizuKind of why I wanted to do a byte clone, because then the device thinks it's the same device11:06
ikoniaclonezilla will allow that just fine11:06
popeyyeah11:07
ikonia(as will gparted as popey educated me)11:07
popeySkizu: you probably want a clonezilla live cd / usb to do it11:07
SkizuI've only got a ubuntu live cd11:07
SkizuAnd no more discs11:07
SkizuAnd a failing drive :D11:08
ikoniaworth buying a usb/cd11:08
SkizuSo I want/need to do it now11:08
ikoniashut the machine down while you get the right media11:08
ikoniathe only risk is mechanical failure on spin up then11:08
BluesKajHiyas all11:08
popeyhello BluesKaj11:09
BluesKajhey popey11:09
SkizuKind of annoying as I've a intel migration disc and it reboots to start acronis, but then I just get a black screen11:10
user26Is there any lightweight desktop environment (like Xfce) that supports programmatic configuration (the gconf way)?11:11
popeyuser26: I think you can do that with Ubuntu MATE11:13
popeyIt has a graphical config tool which I think just fiddles gconf keys under the hood11:13
BluesKajSkizu, doe the cdrom actually boot , if not then maybe your boot sequence in the bios needs editing, make the cdrom first11:13
SkizuBluesKaj: Boots, just hangs with a black screen for a good 30+ mins till I hit enter/esc11:15
BluesKajSkizu, bad disk perhaps. do any other disks boot?11:16
SkizuI loaded it via usb - started booting the repair manager (also used for cloning) but then goes into acronis and just forever a black screen11:17
user26popey: Are you sure MATE fits my *lightweight* desktop environment restriction? I just haven't tested it.11:19
BluesKajSkizu, smartmontools installed?11:22
SkizuBluesKaj: What11:23
BluesKaj!smartmontools11:23
davidkronI ran boot-repair hoping it would allow me to boot into windows, but now i cant boot into neither of windows or ubuntu (uefi)11:23
BluesKaj!info smartmontools11:24
ubottusmartmontools (source: smartmontools): control and monitor storage systems using S.M.A.R.T.. In component main, is optional. Version 6.4+svn4214-1 (xenial), package size 425 kB, installed size 1462 kB11:24
BluesKajSkizu,^11:24
popeyuser26: yes11:24
popeyuser26: I run MATE on a 10 year old thinkpad.11:25
SkizuOh yeah that's on the BIOS right?11:26
MonkeyDusti run Mate on a 7-8 year old frankenstein-laptop11:26
mcpanawai run xubuntu on a 9 years old lenovo :)11:26
mcpanawabtw, hi to everyone11:27
SkizuUsing clonezilla via ubuntu live cd - I just want to do a disk clone or a partition clone?11:29
ikoniahow can you use it via the ubuntu livecd ?11:29
mcpanawax201/x200s here :)11:29
Skizuclonezilla is commandline tool11:30
bekksSkizu: And whats your actual goal?11:31
Skizubekks: I got a new intel drive, intel migration tools are giving me a black screen when going into acronis as it's trying to do the migration11:32
SkizuSo my goal is to clone my old drive to my new intel ssd11:32
bekksSkizu: And which partitions are on the source disk?11:33
TLFHello. It's there a way to find out what program loads a kernel module on boot? Thanks11:33
bekksTLF: Which kernel module are you talking about in particular?11:34
SkizuBoot, primary and diag(I assume means dianostics)11:34
bekksSkizu: Sounds like Windows-only.11:34
TLFbekks: asus_wmi11:34
Skizubekks: Yep only windows on that drive11:34
SkizuSo do I clone the whole drive or just the primary partition?11:35
bekksSkizu: You need to clone everything.11:35
SkizuOkay thanks11:35
bekksTLF: And whats the problem with that module being loaded?11:36
Skizubekks: And I clone the boot loader too?11:36
TLFbekks: It's a laptop module and this is a PC11:37
bekksTLF: And whats the problem with that module being loaded?11:37
TLFbekks: It controls different ACPI settings11:37
bekksTLF: If you dont want it, unload it.11:37
bekksTLF: If you eant to permanently disable it, blacklist it.11:38
TLFbekks: I know to blacklist, but I prefer to check what's the program causing it to load. Can't I find it?11:38
bekksTLF: Most likely some service being started at boot.11:39
BuFFHello, guys quick question - why after appliying these rules:11:40
BuFF-P INPUT DROP11:40
BuFF-A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT11:40
BuFF-A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT11:40
BuFFI'm still getting blocked?11:40
umoukunnn11:41
TLFthanks11:41
BluesKajBuFF, ask in ##linux or #networking11:42
tingly-glassesHi all. I have ubuntu 16.04. How can I re-enable secure boot? BIOS says it's enabled, but during bootup the text "booting in insecure mode" appears at the top of the screen.11:43
BuFFBluesKaj: it is ubuntu related, on other distros it was perfectly11:43
SkizuBOOTMGR is missing11:44
BluesKajBuFF, maybe so , but good luck with getting an answer to such a question here :-)11:44
SkizuFML11:44
someone235Hi, when I download adobe from here: https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ I get this message: "no file_to_app results to show"11:46
someone235Anyone has an idea how to solve this?11:46
tingly-glassesHow can I enable secure boot in ubuntu 16.04? It is already enabled in BIOS, and secure boot is used when I Windows Boot Manager is first in the boot loader priority in BIOS.11:47
MonkeyDustsomeone235  have you tried to install the flashplugin-installer, from the ubuntu repos?11:47
tingly-glassesBut secure boot isn't used when the ubuntu partition is first in the boot loader priority. How can I enable it?11:47
SkizuI've a missing boot manager now thanks to clonezilla11:48
SkizuIs the boot manage on a drive? Like where is my issue?11:50
fluitfrieshi all.  having issues post installation.  have a dell inspiron 530s which was on lubuntu 13 and i dug it out to upgrade.  during upgrade it stalled.  now i am trying fresh install of lubuntu 16 and process goes fine.  but as soon as i boot past bootloader it gets to a black screen with text that says /dev/sda/ and all the blocks of said device, then hangs there forever...  any ideas?11:55
fluitfriesit has pentium E2140 with 3 gb ram and i am installing with amd6411:56
raccoon_hi all11:56
ioriafluitfries, video card ?11:56
raccoon_how can i install drivers on video card in Lubuntu11:56
raccoon_any experienced programmers can join me in prv. thanx in advance11:57
fluitfriesioria: not sure, it's onboard, factory default11:57
raccoon_yeah it said no proprietary drivers found11:57
fluitfriesioria: i'm looking on dell.com for which chip11:58
Mionraccoon_: what card?11:58
raccoon_radeon11:59
raccoon_hd5480 something like that11:59
raccoon_old11:59
ioriafluitfries, should be intel12:00
fluitfriesioria: intel G3xx series graphic chip12:00
ioriafluitfries, can you open a console ? ctrl+alt+f1 (or f2) ?12:00
fluitfriesioria: i dont think so but i'll try now12:00
fluitfriesioria: nope, it just says /dev/sda2 clean lists the blocks, and has a blinking cursor12:02
ioriafluitfries, you have to wait a bit .... or try recovery (pressing shift) enable networking -> root shell12:03
fluitfriesprior to this the screen does go blue background like it is going to load the gui but reverts back to this12:03
ioriafluitfries,  usually a blank screen doesn't stop you from opening a console12:04
fluitfriesioria: i got one!  i needed to use the fn key cos it's a mac keyboard12:05
fluitfriesok i'm on tty612:05
ioriafluitfries,  ok , sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel12:05
uqqsome users at #laravel told me that i should use 14.04 instead of 16.04. that would mean a complete reinstall for my server. is it worth it?12:09
fluitfriesioria: ok thats installed fine12:09
ioriafluitfries,  try reboot12:10
ioriafluitfries,  sudo reboot12:10
Mionuqq: what are you currently running?12:10
Mionuqq: and no you should not use 14.0412:10
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Mionuqq: if laravel needs an old insecure php then just don't use laravel12:11
Mionor build the old php version in $HOME or similar12:11
Mionuqq: I asume that is why they told you to use 14.0412:12
fluitfrieswow ioria that did it!  so why wasn't the OS installer doing that?12:12
Mionif not, find out why they told you to use 14.0412:12
ioriafluitfries,  ok... not sure ... old intel card ?12:12
BluesKajmaybe because the point release for 6.04 LTS isn't until July 2112:13
ioriafluitfries,  does ot happen with wily and trusty12:13
BluesKaj16.0412:13
ioria*does not12:13
MonkeyDust!ltsupgrade12:13
ubottuUsers of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st.12:13
fluitfriesyea i guess it is old.  well thanks a million ioria12:13
ioriafresh install12:13
ioriafluitfries,  no problem, have fun12:13
foormeahiya. what would be the best way to have all network interfaces brought up as dhcp on startup on ubuntu server?12:16
foormeause a network manager like wicd?12:16
Mionjust call dhcpcd with no args, or dhclient if you swing what way12:16
markseidon't use NetworkManager though, I found many difficulties on Ubuntu12:16
Mionor just use networkd12:16
ioriafoormea, with a server i'd say configure /etc/network/interfaces12:16
Mionmarksei: biggest issue is that ubuntu ships a fairly old version12:16
foormeacontext: i'm setting up a server, i have no access to a screen. just installed an ubuntu server on a raw hdd, put it in the server, that works. only concern: with the newer network interface naming, i can't tell it to configure eth0 as dhcp and that'll work, it's expecting a name in the form of /dev/enp3s9 or such12:18
foormeainstalled on a raw hdd *via virtual box*12:18
foormeai'll look into networkd thanks12:18
foormeawhat do you think about wicd though?12:18
ioriafoormea, to get the interfaces's names run   ip a12:19
foormeayeah i've made a line in rc.local write the output of ifconfig -a into a file12:19
foormeawhih i can see on another computer12:19
foormeabut in general i'm wondering how to set all as dhcp, not just a specific interface in /etc/network/interfaces12:20
Mionfoormea: don't use rc.local and don't use ifconfig12:20
foormeathe rc.local was to be able to quickly see the iface name12:21
markseifoormea: network configuration is associated to interfaces, I don't think you can set DHCP up system-wide without some hacks12:21
Mionfoormea: as I said, dhcpcd when run with no args will try to bring up every interface it sees12:21
foormeanow i've got it, enp0s7 :)12:21
ioriayeah !12:21
Mionthe issue ofcourse is if you have two or more interface connected to the same network12:21
foormeaok12:21
Mionor two or more both sets default route, dns etc.....12:21
foormeayeah that won't happen in my case12:21
Mionfamous last words12:22
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ozkarögjkgyukuyk12:30
ozkarhi12:30
usuariohola12:31
usuarioadios12:31
Guest50673chaoo12:31
Guest50673usuario: chaoo12:31
ozkarmerhaba12:32
g105bHi, I want to use ubuntu-mini-remix.org to configure my own distro, but when I run it in my VM the HDD only has ~1GB free, even though the disk should have ~16GB. Makes it very difficult to configure.12:33
SkizuI've a missing boot manager, how do I repair it?12:36
MionSkizu: depends on which bootloader you are using12:38
SkizuI've no idea what one is12:38
Mionprobably grub then12:39
SkizuDoes like windows and things use grub?12:39
Mionhttps://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html12:39
Mionwindows doesn't use grub but you can use grub to boot windows12:40
akikSkizu: windows uses ntldr which can also be made to boot linux12:40
SkizuOkay okay, I've just cloned my drive using gparted the drive has windows on it, the new drive won't boot12:41
Mionsure it is just not the bios/uefi that is set to boot the wrong disk?12:41
Mioncheck teh boot order12:41
SkizuI manually seleted the new drive12:43
SkizuMion: ^12:43
Mionhow exactly did you clone the disk?12:44
Mionalso uefi or not?12:44
tusharmhey guys, i need to download a zip file from my google drive to a system I can only ssh into... ANy ideas?13:01
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akiktusharm: you can use wget or curl to download files13:02
akiktusharm: if you need a text mode browser, elinks13:02
k1ltusharm: wget the url13:02
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tusharmyeah i tried... gdrive uses some authentication so normal wget just won't work13:05
tusharmi'll try elinks though13:05
k1ldoesnt gdrive provide direct urls?13:06
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akiktusharm: or you can tunnel x11 in ssh and open the browser from your remote13:12
ItalianStallionHi I have a question, I'm trying to download a program called Pan, and the website has a bunch of different options to choose from...such as Source, Ubuntu PPA, Windows Installer, Git Repository...I dont know which one to use to install it13:17
lernerI have 4 GiB RAM installed, only 2 are recognized...13:17
lernerwhy?13:17
k1lItalianStallion: ist that program included in the ubuntu repos? then i would consider using the ubuntu PPA13:19
k1llerner: look into the bios if its recognized. if not its a hardware issue.13:19
ItalianStallionI dont know if its included in the ubuntu repos or not..does that matter?13:19
ogra_yes, yu should simply use the software center if it is13:20
lernerk1l, that means rebooting, right?13:20
k1lItalianStallion: yes, you should prefer the installation from the ubuntu repos if its in it. because that way its already made working with ubuntu13:20
ItalianStallionwhere do i find the software center13:20
k1llerner: yes13:20
k1l!info pan13:20
ubottupan (source: pan): newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.139-5build1 (xenial), package size 866 kB, installed size 4213 kB13:20
lernerk1l, and what do you mean with hardware problem? faulty hdd? faulty mobo?13:20
ogra_it is the icon with the little orange bag in your launcher13:20
k1lso its included, use the softwarecenter or "sudo apt install pan" on the terminal13:21
MonkeyDustItalianStallion  it should be in the menu13:21
ItalianStalliondo i click on the search your computer icon to find13:21
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ItalianStallionand then type software center?13:21
ogra_yes13:21
MonkeyDustItalianStallion  or alt-f213:21
ogra_(just "software" skhold already be enough)13:21
ogra_*should13:21
k1llerner: you said ram. i dont know what you want with hdd now. ram could be damaged, or not properly set in the mobo. or could be a incompatibility with the mobo.13:21
lernerk1l, ok13:22
BluesKajpan is in the repos/software center, ItalianStallion , open a terminal and do, sudo apt install pan13:22
ItalianStallionok i found the software center and found pan13:22
ItalianStallionim installing it now13:22
ogra_great13:22
ItalianStallionit says pending13:23
ItalianStalliondo i just wait for it to finish13:23
ogra_if you clicked install you should see a little progress bar13:23
k1lwait for it to finish the install13:25
ItalianStallionoh ok, because i dont know if its downloading or not, it's been saying pending for a few minutes now13:25
MonkeyDustItalianStallion  sounds like your connection is slow, i guess13:26
ItalianStallionit shouldnt be slow, im directly connected via ethernet cable and everything else i downloaded downloaded without a problem13:27
ogra_is that a normal unity desktop install ?13:27
ItalianStallionare you talkin to me?13:28
ogra_yes13:28
ItalianStallioni just went to the software center icon, i searched for pan and found it..then hit install13:28
ogra_(xubuntu or ubuntu gnomre might use a different software tool)13:28
ItalianStallioni dont know, is there a way i can find out13:29
k1logra_: i thought since 16.04 they switched it to the gnome one on unity13:29
ogra_k1l: yep13:29
ogra_but there are fixes on top (and it was renamed) could well be that ubuntu-gnome uses the unmodified "gnome-software" ... and iirc xubuntu-desktop ships with synaptics ... and mate with its own thing13:30
ItalianStallionis there a way i can tell you to find out what im using to make it easier for you guys13:30
ogra_(i have never seen "pending" in the normal 16.04 sw center)13:30
ItalianStallioncause i dont know13:30
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MonkeyDustItalianStallion  minimize all windows, then take a screenshot, then show us here http://imgur.com/13:35
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ItalianStallionok13:36
ItalianStallionhow do i hide the gimp windows when taking a screenshot13:36
MonkeyDustItalianStallion  ok, close gimp, then hit the 'print screen' button13:37
MonkeyDuston your keyboard13:37
ItalianStallionoh wait I found it13:37
ItalianStallionok hold on im uploading it13:37
ItalianStallionhttp://i.imgur.com/QiagB2Q.jpg13:39
MonkeyDustItalianStallion  that's Unity, the bar on the left is called the launcher or launchbar13:40
ogra_and teh orange bag there is the software center13:41
ItalianStallionI understand the bar on the laft is the launcher or the start menu13:41
ItalianStallionleft*13:41
MonkeyDust!manual | ItalianStallion13:41
ubottuItalianStallion: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/13:41
ItalianStallionCan I install the Pan program another way besides through the software center13:42
ogra_ItalianStallion: sure ... open a terminal with ctrl-alt+t13:43
ogra_then: sudo apt install pan13:43
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ogra_(enter your password and you should see a progress bar)13:43
ItalianStallionyes its installing now13:43
ItalianStallionthrough the terminal13:44
ogra_good13:44
ogra_to open it, click teh ubuntu logo in the launcher and type "pan" ... you shold see an icon to click13:44
ItalianStallionIt finished installing and I typed pan and I don't see it13:45
ItalianStallionall I see is Displays13:45
MonkeyDustwhat is pan supposed to do?13:46
ogra_its a newsreader13:46
ogra_pretty old thing :)13:46
MonkeyDustlike an rss feed reader?13:46
ItalianStallionI tried typing that command in again in the terminal window and the last line in the terminal says13:47
ogra_http://pan.rebelbase.com/13:47
ItalianStallion0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.13:48
ogra_ItalianStallion: try alt+f213:48
ogra_then type pan in there13:48
ItalianStallionoh ok, I see it when I did that13:48
ogra_once it runs you can right-click the icon in the launcher and pin it13:49
lernerk1l, bios shows only 2 GiB RAM available... what possible hardware issues could cause this? I have been using 4 GiB without problems for 4 years now, so its not a compatibility issue, I opened the laptop and took the ram cards out and put em in again, they were not unconnected...13:49
ItalianStallionok cool, I got it pinned13:50
ogra_yay13:50
ogra_enjoy13:50
ItalianStallionthanks13:50
MonkeyDust\o/13:50
ItalianStallionI have another question/problem13:50
ItalianStallionare you looking at my screenshot still13:50
MonkeyDustItalianStallion  only the first is free, you have to pay for more13:50
ogra_heh13:51
k1llerner: if you took them out and in again there must have been something wrong. try ##hardware for help13:51
ItalianStallionI have Date and month selected to be shown in my clock up on the top where the taskbar is..and next to the clock, it looks like its displaying the date and month in chinese13:51
MonkeyDustItalianStallion  in the system settings, find 'language' ... you can install what you need and then 'apply system wide' or so13:52
ogra_or learn chinese :)13:52
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lernerk1l, sudo lshw -c memory says that the first bank (of my 2 banks) is empty (which is not...) does tha give you any ideas?13:53
ogra_that really sounds like hardware13:54
ItalianStallionI'm installing the Language support thing I think it said it was, hopefully that'll fix it13:54
terminal_crawlerItalianStallion: It could also potentially be a font issue.13:54
ogra_if lshw *and* the BIOS dont see teh second bar ...13:54
lernerogra_, broken DIMM card?13:55
terminal_crawlerItalianStallion: Scratch that. Most likely language or locale issue.13:55
ogra_yeah, unless it doesnt sit properly in teh slot or the slot is broken, i'd blame the bar13:55
terminal_crawlerlerner: To check that it is not the ram card, you could swap the two cards and see if the issue changes.13:56
ItalianStallionin the Regional Formats, Chinese Literary was selected as default, I changed it to English (United States) and I just logged off and back on and now it's changed to english13:57
maidHello guys13:57
maidi have a question when i h ave usb persistent live system with ubuntu13:57
ogra_nice... but you lost teh big opportunity to learn chinese :)13:57
MonkeyDustItalianStallion  great, now first read the !manual, as suggested by ubottu13:57
maidhow can i encrypt the whole thing13:57
uqqMion, sorry for being away13:58
uqqlaravel works in 14.04 and 16.04 just fine13:58
uqqthe people just told me that 14.04 is more stable and i should always prefer it over 16.0413:58
uqqand they even told me to reinstall whole server to get 14.0413:58
katerina_Hey! Tried to get the sources of package with apt-get source, but got an error; http://paste.ubuntu.com/17210818/. Is this a bug or what ?13:58
ItalianStallionyea I'll check that out, I also found an ebook online called The Ubuntu Book 1st Edition13:58
maidcan somebody please help me guys?13:59
BluesKajmaid:  ask your question13:59
maidi did13:59
maidhow can i do full disk encryption on an persisten live usb13:59
maidstick with ubuntu13:59
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ogra_katerina: uh, dont do that as root13:59
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ItalianStallionoh uhm actually I have something else I wanted to ask that I just thought of14:00
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ItalianStallionhow come I can't click a program from the launcher to minimize it again14:00
ItalianStallionis that normal for it to not minimize like that14:00
ogra_ItalianStallion: ubuntu design team decision14:00
zeus__list14:00
ente_Hey guys, I would like to start my gnucash with the german language without changing my system default language (english). Starting gnucash by terminal with "LANGUAGE=de_DE.UTF-8 LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_ALL=de_DE.UTF-8 gnucash" works perfect. However I would like to use the launcher (gnucash.desktop). Does anyone know how to set these enviroment variables for a *.desktop file?14:01
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katerina_ogra_:  ok, but why that?14:01
MonkeyDustItalianStallion  yes, as of 16.04, you can acrivate it in compiz config14:01
ogra_(i think there was a hack to enable it for apps that only have one window open though)14:01
ogra_katerina_: i assume this is 16.04 ?14:01
katerina_Yup14:01
ItalianStallionhow do I find that MonkeyDust14:01
nedstarkxenial and trusty bot have about 2700 open bugs, 13 critical for xenial, 19 critical for trusty, so i don't know why people still think 14.04 is more stable14:02
ogra_in 16.04 apt runs as its own user ... i guess it gets confused14:02
ogra_but in general it is a bad idea to be root whhen working with package sources14:02
maidhow can i do full disk encryption on an persisten live usb14:02
ogra_(you dont compile them as root either)14:02
MonkeyDust!repeat | maid14:02
ubottumaid: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/14:02
katerina_Ah didn't know that. ty14:02
ogra_nedstark: well, xenial will only become LTS with 16.04.1 ... to make sure the worst initial bugs are found and fixed14:03
maidok i think its not possible with live system just with hard installed harddisk install14:03
ogra_this is why 14.04 users do not get offered to upgrade yet14:03
maidi dont find anything14:03
nedstarki'm just talking in relative terms, 14.04 isn't anymore bug free than xenial14:03
ogra_well, it is older so teh SW is more mature14:04
nedstarkmature, but no less buggy14:04
ogra_and it is more likely that existing bugs have been found (and possibly even fixed)14:04
nedstarkthe bugs are all tracked on launchpad and i cited the numbers above14:04
ogra_the numbers say nothing14:05
ogra_you have to take severity into account too14:05
nedstarki did14:05
nedstarkcritical, important, etc, xenial is better than trusty14:05
ItalianStallionhey MonkeyDust how do I find that option you are talking about14:05
nedstarkhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial14:06
MonkeyDustItalianStallion  install compiz config, open it and activate 'minimize on click' or so14:06
ItalianStalliondo i use the command sudo apt install compiz14:07
ItalianStallionis that the right command14:07
maidis it possible to install ubuntu ob an usb stick like on an harddrive? i mean hard install and no live syystem?14:09
ente_ItalianStallion: First install CompizConfig Settings Manager. Afterwards CompizConfig Settings Manager -> Ubuntu Unity Plugin -> Launcher -> Minimize SIngle Window Applications (Unsupported)14:09
maidthan i maybe can do the whole usb encryption14:09
ItalianStallionok whats the command to install that ente_?14:10
ente_ItalianStallion: Comon... https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/compizconfig-settings-manager/14:11
maidok guys you suck sorry14:13
ente_ItalianStallion: Be careful with this tool. Do not deactiavte the Ubuntu Unity Plugin!14:13
maidmy question cant be so hard that no one here cant help me14:13
maidon any question i ask14:13
ogra_maid: do you think insults will get you better answers ?14:13
ItalianStallionalright your scaring me now..is it gonna mess anything up?14:13
maidbetter? i didnt got any answers and your talking of better ones14:14
ogra_maid:  no, i'm talking about your tone14:14
ente_ItalianStallion: Nah, just dont scroll ur mousewheel (that may change some dropdowns) or click the wrong checkbox. :D14:14
maidhowever14:14
ogra_if nobody knows teh answer you simply wont get one14:14
Chris55I have an Internet problem with a fresh install of desktop 16.04.  Can someone help me?14:15
Xin Chris55 no.14:15
BluesKajmaid:  maid maybe you could use a ssd with usb connection, if such a thing esxists without an enclosure/adapter , also insulting the room won't get you much help14:15
maidok you wanna tell me noone knows if i can install an hard installation like on an hardware at an usb stick with ubuntu14:15
maidok sure14:15
maidthan im wrong here14:15
ogra_you surely can14:15
ogra_you initially asked about encryption though14:15
ItalianStalliondont scroll my mousewheel? but i use my mousewheel often lol14:16
maidand than i said ok noobody can help me maybe it dont exist but i know it exist when u install ubuntu you can choose this encryption thing14:16
maidbut on live system you cant14:16
ioriaChris55, like what ?14:16
nedstarkluks14:16
maidso i asked can i install ubuntu on an usb stick like i would do on an hardisk14:16
maidso that i can choose on the installation the whole encryption thing14:17
MonkeyDust!persistent | maid yes14:17
ubottumaid yes: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent14:17
ogra_you dont need to repeat everything now (and leaving out the "you guys suck") we all have a backlog in our clients14:17
ente_ItalianStallion: I did it on the profile section and switchted the profile (which deactiavtes the Ubuntu Unity Plugin) without noticing... Afterwards my unity was a bit broken... :D14:17
Chris55I get a connection to the Bell Home Hub but the web pages don't load.  I tried wireless and wired...same problem.14:17
maidmonkey im not talking about persistent14:17
maidim talking about an hard installation14:17
ioriaChris55,  ping www.google.com  ?14:18
ogra_sure, just pick the target usb key in teh installer ...14:18
Chris55tried that...doesn't work14:18
BluesKajmaid:  but why, portability ?14:18
ItalianStallionoh..thats scary ente_ lol14:19
ioriaChris55,  ping 8.8.8.8 ?14:19
BarryIsLostGreetings. I'm trying to establish a 16.04 laptop to replace my wife's 14.04 laptop, but I cannot get my NAS to mount on boot. If I sudo mount -a after boot, it mounts fine. Any ideas?14:19
Jordan_Umaid: Yes you can. For a BIOS based system you just install normally. For a UEFI based system you can still install normally, but unless you do additional steps afterward the USB drive will only boot from the machine you installed with (and the machine you installed with will be left with an Ubuntu entry in its boot firmware even when the USB drive has been removed).14:19
maidBluesKaj yeah i need to switch fast about on 2 laptops and 1 pc14:19
olivier__Hello, I want to know how can I root/flash a android phone on ubuntu.14:19
Chris55I have not tried 8.8.8.8 but have tried pinging the network card which works.  But pinging the modem fails intermitently.14:20
Jordan_Umaid: Also, if you try this with a standard consumer thumb drive the performance will likepy be abismal.14:20
Amm0nmaid, USB installation + encryption can't be fast14:20
ioriaChris55,  ping 8.8.8.8 ?14:20
MonkeyDustBarryIsLost  you can use 'gigolo' and mark 'autoconnect'14:20
BluesKajmaid:  suggest you install on a partition on those machines instead of a stick14:20
maidi doesnt need to be fast14:21
maidim just using it for some documents14:21
olivier__How can I root a android phone on ubuntu ?14:21
maidto be secure14:21
maidand that i can edit it sometimes thats all14:21
maidi dont work on it or any stuff14:21
BluesKajmaid:  then you don't need an OS14:21
BarryIsLostoliver__: There's no single way to answer your question. It depends on which phone you have, and which Ubuntu you have.14:21
Jordan_Umaid: BIOS or UEFI?14:21
maidJordan_U whats better for security reasons and for the portability on many laptops?14:22
olivier__BarryIsLost : I have a samsung galaxy note 4 and I am on 16.04.14:22
maidBIOS i think right?14:22
Chris55ioria, pinging the modem fails most of the time so I don't think 8.8.8.8 would work either.14:22
BarryIsLostThat's more helpful, oliver__. I still don't have an answer for you, but if you include that kind of information in your question, plus who your provider is, you might find someone who has the answer.14:23
ioriaChris55,  simply try 8.8.8.8 it's just Google, nothing more14:23
mistralolanyone any suggestions for debugging an early kernel crash during boot?14:23
BluesKajmaid:  all you need is a mountable drive with the files on it14:23
Jordan_Umaid: If you really want it to be usable on many laptops then you can install with both BIOS and UEFI support, but there are enough little catches that not many people know about and I don't have time to walk you through it at the moment.14:23
olivier__BarryIsLost : My provider is a canadian provider14:23
Chris55I'm in windows now...I'll have to reboot.  If that works then what?14:24
ioriaChris55,  could be DNS issue14:24
ioriaChris55,  try also 'route' to identify your gw14:24
Chris55Ok.  Thanks ioria14:25
ioriaChris55,  no prob14:25
maidso whats better now Jordan BIOS?14:25
BarryIsLostoliver__: Let me try this again. I don't know how to do that. There are probably people who do know how to do that. If you ask them, providing all the information they need, they might be able and willing to answer. But, you need to ask your question in a complete way, like, "I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 4, and I am currently on {insert the actual name of your Canadian provider here}. What do I need to do to root this phone14:26
maidok i want bios Jordan_U14:26
scriptwarlockhello anyone can point me the link in creating manually  a desktop shortcut and launcher in ubuntu xenial?14:26
ente_FYI: AFAIK u can not set an enviroment variable within *.desktop files. U need to create a bash file (e.g. "LANGUAGE=de_DE.UTF-8 LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_ALL=de_DE.UTF-8 gnucash") and change the "EXEC=____" value within the *.desktop file to ur created bash file (do not forget chmod +x ur bash file).14:26
olivier__ is that someone here knows how rooter phone android on ubuntu . I have a Samsung Galaxy 4 and am on ubuntu 16.04 . My provider is a Canadian Videotron14:27
MonkeyDustente_  great, but who are you talking to14:27
\9scriptwarlock: https://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en14:27
scriptwarlockthanks14:27
ente_MonkeyDust: Just answering my own question. :)14:27
olivier__t is that someone here knows how can I root a phone android on ubuntu . I have a Samsung Galaxy 4 and am on ubuntu 16.04 . My provider is a Canadian provider Videotron14:28
maidJordan_U how i best do the BIOS installation on the stick14:28
maidcan i do it over windows or what is the easiest way14:28
nedstarkolivier__, this video shows how https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vohxgmuKWgo14:29
scriptwarlockwait a minute is the link for ubuntu vanilla or regardless of?14:29
mistralolcan anyone help me with an issue with 16.04 it crashes on boot and I have no idea why14:29
\9scriptwarlock: it's for any freedesktop-compliant desktop, unity, gnome, kde, xfce, ...14:29
BluesKajolivier__:  are you trying to unlock your phone ? if so this isn't the place to ask, try #android14:29
scriptwarlockok thanks14:30
ente_mistralol: what do u mean by "on boot"?14:30
olivier__Nedstark : I don't have a galaxy S4 but a Galaxy note 414:30
BarryIsLostMy NAS won't mount when I boot. I'm trying to establish a 16.04 laptop to replace my wife's 14.04 laptop. If I "sudo mount -a" after boot, it mounts fine. Any ideas?14:30
mistralolente_: well its an upgraded 15.10 -> 16.04 if i boot it into the old 15.10 kernel it works. But the 16.04 kernel just enters a reboot loop14:31
lerneri have a broken memory card, I changed DIMM cards and now is bank 0 (DIMM1) the broken one. thing is: I dont know which one is 1 and which one is 0, there are no numbers next to the slots...14:31
olivier__BluesKaj : the channel is not a support channel14:31
Jordan_Umaid: Boot the install media via BIOS, ensure that the USB drive is selected as the device where grub's boot sector will be installed (this should be a drive, like "sdb" *not* a partition like "sdb1")14:32
Jordan_Umaid: To do that you will probably need to use manual partitioning, and I also don't have time to walk you through manually configuring LUKS.14:32
maidso i need 2 sticks right? one where it bneed to be installed and one with the insallation image right??14:33
Jordan_Umaid: Correct. (There are ways around that, but they complicate things severely)14:33
BluesKajolivier__:  then try #android-root14:33
BarryIsLostmaid: You might be able to get away with one, but you would have to use something like gparted to shrink the main partition and create another one on the stick, and then you'd probably have to mount it manually.14:34
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BarryIsLostmaid: You can use an Ubuntu install disk as a live CD, and you can use something like Universal-USB-Installer to move the Ubuntu ISO onto a thumb drive to make it bootable.14:35
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maidok thank you bro14:35
maidill try it now and come back when it doesnt fit14:36
BarryIsLostmaid: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/14:36
Chris55ioria,  I tried pining 8.8.8.8.  "Network unreachable".  Pinging my modem 192.168.2.1 also fails.14:36
ioriaChris55,  can you paste ifconfig ?14:37
ioriaChris55,  your connection not working at all14:37
nedstarkyou can use virtualbox to create an ubuntu installation, then convert the .vdi file to raw format using vboxmanage and then use dd to move it to a usb.  it is persistent that way.14:38
Chris55how do I run ifconfig?14:38
ioriaChris55,  ifconfig14:38
Chris55ok...I'll be back...14:38
BarryIsLostMy NAS won't mount when I boot. I'm trying to establish a 16.04 laptop to replace my wife's 14.04 laptop. If I "sudo mount -a" after boot, it mounts fine. Any ideas?14:38
ioriaChris55,  maybe use your phone to chat ... or another pc14:38
olivier__Hello How can I root a galaxy note 4 on ubuntu ?14:42
circ-user-WveRxhi this is my first visit to an irc channel ... and i am installing ubuntu... if anything happens ... i hope you are here for me :)14:42
terminal_crawlercirc-user-WveRx: That we are :)14:43
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Amm0nBarryIsLost, maybe it's trying to mount before the network is up?14:45
eggggsolivier, most of the root programs i saw were for winblows, might be able to get it done in a virtual machine, but have never tried it14:46
BarryIsLostAmm0n: I suspect that may be the case, but I'm not sure how to delay the start.14:48
eggggsyeah i have a vpn that always fails because of acient wifi chip14:49
eggggsis slower than start up of vpn program14:49
eggggsin autostart  they say to put  sleep 10;14:52
Amm0nBarryIsLost, you could use Networkmanager-Dispatcher for that, or a script that does this job14:53
BluesKajeggggs: is it necessary for your vpn to startup at login ?14:55
akikBarryIsLost: i have the same issue with 2 nfs mounts. i have them in /etc/fstab but i need to mount them after boot manually (sudo mount -a)14:56
BarryIsLosteggggs: I'm not familiar with autostart, and a system search doesn't seem to be finding it.14:57
BarryIsLostAmm0n: I'm also not familiar with Networkmanager-Dispatcher.14:59
impl0sionanyone able to give me a hand with some bash problems im having?14:59
akik!ask15:01
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:01
BluesKajBarryIsLost:  autostart is a file or script option in kde/plasma system settings/startup and shutdown15:01
impl0sionOk, so I'm trying to execute a game server start command from a php web page, where the page is loaded, a script is executed which cd's to the game servers files and runs the server start script of ./csgoserver15:02
Amm0nBarryIsLost, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NFS#NetworkManager_dispatcher and https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NFS#Automatic_mount_handling should also work on ubuntu ;)15:02
BakaSamasalut :)15:04
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ZeekHugeHey ! I am using 14.04 on lenovo thinkpad T430 with that vga port. so, I have attached a Dell monitor and first, it was running at low resolution, so i used cvt and xrand to add newmode "1600x900_60.00" and then switched to higher resolution. It was then working fine, but since today, it getting detected and undetected again and again. Any Idea how to get this working properly ?15:07
ZeekHuge*xrandr15:07
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: Does the monitor work fine with other PCs/laptops?15:08
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: As in, it doesn't detect/undetect.15:08
scriptwarlockwhere is the shutdown located? was it still in sbin/?15:09
akikadding "x-systemd.automount" to mount options in /etc/fstab made the boot time nfs mount active for me (16.04)15:10
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler:  let me check it on my friends laptop, but since its  a new one, and was working fine, it should, i guess.15:10
ItalianStallionI downloaded a program, it was in .tar.gz format and I extracted it to a folder, but now when I double-click on it to run it it doesn't open15:10
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: How frequently does it swap from being detected and undetected?15:13
Amm0nBarryIsLost, see akik's paste above.. didn't know about this one yet15:13
terminal_crawlerItalianStallion: What is the program file extension?15:15
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: (If it has one)15:15
hylianhello15:17
user26Is there any lightweight desktop environment (like Xfce) that supports programmatic configuration (the gconf way)?15:17
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: It is working fine on my friends laptop, with VGA port. I even got the 1600x900 mode working there too15:18
ducasseuser26: as i said earlier, i think xfce does with something called xfconf15:18
scriptwarlockwhere is the shutdown located? was it still in sbin/?15:18
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: So the exact same comands/setup, but not working on your laptop. Same O.S.?15:20
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: On my system, once it starts (I dont know what triggers it ), it continues indefinitely, until i reboot it.15:20
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: actually it is working on my system too ..  like it works fine for an hour and then this detect/undetect problem starts15:21
ItalianStallionim trying to download java..but i dont know which one to install..they have Linux RPM, Linux, Linux x64 and Linux x64 RPM15:22
ItalianStallionwhich one do I choose?15:22
ZeekHugeokay and just if it helps, my system has that optimus thing, with Nvidia and Intel graphics card. Though I have already switched it (Nvidia )off in bios iteself.15:23
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: ^15:23
ducasseItalianStallion: why not install java from the repos?15:24
user26ducasse: Oh, so it was you (and this answer). I did get a message received notification, but my IRC client won't allow me to see older scrollback.15:24
ItalianStallionhow do I do that ducasse15:25
ducasseItalianStallion: with apt-get or software center15:25
ducasseuser26: take a look at the xfconf-query man page15:26
ItalianStallionwhats the apt-get command do you know?15:26
ItalianStallionbecause software center is being weird15:26
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: On the lower resolution (or other resolutions), do you get the same issue?15:26
ducasseItalianStallion: try synaptic instead15:27
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ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: actually I am waiting it to happen again. Its working fine for now.15:38
ZeekHugeI'll let you know as it starts again.15:38
noobMani'm on ubuntu 14 .. it freezes frequently.. what might be the reason.. i reinstalled 4 times now..same proble...15:38
ItalianStallioni'm trying to run a program called hjsplit, and I've just installed the jave run time enviorment thing, but hjsplit still wont open15:38
MonkeyDustnoobMan  14.04 or 14.10?15:39
popeynoobMan: what kind of hardware, what kind of video card?15:39
noobManMonkeyDust:  popey http://imgur.com/OI0xMAT ..15:40
ioria!info gnome-split | ItalianStallion15:41
ubottuItalianStallion: gnome-split (source: gnome-split): GNOME Split - File splitter for GNOME desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-1 (xenial), package size 189 kB, installed size 476 kB15:41
ioriaItalianStallion, but you can use split from your terminal15:42
popeynoobMan: is there anything which seems to trigger the freeze? Any particular app / activity?15:42
ioriaItalianStallion, really no need for hjsplit15:42
noobManpopey: no.. it freezes randomly.. sometimes just after 1 minute after booting or after 2 hrs15:42
ItalianStallioni'm not really that good with using terminal though15:44
noobManpopey: MonkeyDust is there any command or tool to disk check or remove bad sectors.. i don't know how to use fsck15:44
ioriaItalianStallion, man split15:44
ItalianStallionactually i just found that the hjsplit program also has a .jar version which i just downloaded and that worked15:44
popeynoobMan: I'd be inclined to run a memtest first15:44
popeynoobMan: leave it running all day or overnight if you can15:44
popeynoobMan: there is "Disk utility" which can run some tests on the disks, yes.15:45
noobManpopey: what memtest does?15:45
popeynoobMan: tests the ram, agressively to identify bad sticks15:45
popeymemtest is the first thing I always run if a machine is locking up15:45
DANYALdasd15:46
DANYALsa15:46
DANYALhello15:46
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: I'll be ready for ya :)15:46
noobManpopey: ok ..i'll try it..thanks bye15:46
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: Thogh I might need to sleep soon, it is 1am here lol15:46
popeynp15:46
JakesDenjjj15:47
JakesDenHello, Can someone help me with stuff related to sudo?15:49
MonkeyDustJakesDen  let's hear it, in one line15:50
JakesDenI need to know how to make it so when i run apt, apt-get, apt-add-repository etc it will run as sudo when i run it normaly under my user jake15:54
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: So far so good?15:54
ducasseJakesDen: just prefix the commands with sudo15:55
JakesDenwithout doing that15:55
terminal_crawlerJakesDen: And use aliases.15:55
ducasseJakesDen: 'alias apt="sudo apt"'15:55
terminal_crawlerducasse: Thanks.15:55
JakesDeni want it so i dont have to enter my password either15:56
ducasseJakesDen: 'man sudoers'15:56
MonkeyDustJakesDen  you want to disable the password altogether?15:56
JakesDenonly for certain commands15:57
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: yeah good so far :(  / :)15:58
ZeekHugeEver I allowed the screen to sleep, and get it back up.15:58
ZeekHugeit working finr15:58
ZeekHuge*fine15:58
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ZeekHugeAnyway, I'll ping you when it gets bad, and if you are asleep by then, we'll try to figure it out later. 9:29 PM here (IST)15:59
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: ^15:59
MonkeyDustJakesDen  http://paste.ubuntu.com/17215935/16:00
MonkeyDustJakesDen  careful, know what you do, the password is there for security16:00
Amm0nJakesDen, there are good reasons to need root permissions on certain commands..16:01
JakesDeni have backups incase anything goes wrong and i will only install something or run a command if i know its safe to do16:02
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: Do I need to leave my computer on to be pinged? Otherwise I should be on tomorrow night (my time).16:02
JakesDenis there a way to make visudo open pluma my prefered application for editing text?16:03
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: I would progressivly try different resolutions to see if it is just that one which is suspect.16:03
terminal_crawlerJakesDen: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4408/how-to-set-visudo-to-use-a-different-editor-than-the-default-on-fedorahttp://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4408/how-to-set-visudo-to-use-a-different-editor-than-the-default-on-fedora16:03
terminal_crawlerJakesDen: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4408/how-to-set-visudo-to-use-a-different-editor-than-the-default-on-fedora16:03
pr3c0gHi all16:04
JakesDenk16:04
MonkeyDustJakesDen  'why easy, if you can make it hard'?16:04
JakesDen?16:05
pr3c0gcan anyone help me with sound blaster cinema 2 ?16:05
JakesDeni edited the sudoers file but when i run apt it still says jake@jake:~$ apt-get install potato16:07
JakesDenE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)16:07
JakesDenE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?16:07
ducasseJakesDen: did you set the alias?16:08
BluesKajpr3c0g:  what's the help you neeed with it/16:08
pr3c0gI recently switched to ubuntu from windows16:08
JakesDenno i just added t my sudoers file jake ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/apt, /usr/bin/apt-get16:09
pr3c0gI had sound blaster cinema 2 on windows, and it made a huge difference for me. I understand this doesn't exist in ubuntu (at least the software)16:09
ducasseJakesDen: that won't help, you still need the alias to actually run sudo.16:09
JakesDenk16:09
pr3c0gis there an alternative? Should I install it with Wine?16:10
JakesDenworks now thanks16:10
ducasseJakesDen: it's still generally a BAD idea to do this.16:11
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JakesDenI have a very strong password anyway16:12
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BluesKajpr3c0g:  open a terminal and type alsamixer, what chip is listed in the upper left?16:13
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ubuntu166Hello, I'm having problems with encryption of data. I was trying to encrypt my entire Ubuntu installation on setup, but since I'm installing on an external hard drive, the option to "erase and install encrypted.." wasn't good since it would install on the main HDD.16:13
JakesDenI will also make sure i 100% trust what i am installing and who made and published it16:14
JakesDenKnow any good books about using the terminal efficiently from ubuntu-mate16:14
pr3c0grealtek alc115016:14
ubuntu166so I tried to check the "encrypt home folder" and then the installation took very long time, until it failed. Now I'm trying to activate the command " sudo apt-get install encryptfs-utils cryptsetup16:15
ubuntu166and it tells me that it can't find the package..16:15
JakesDenalso any way to get amor for ubuntu 16.04 on the mate desktop environment16:16
Amm0nJakesDen, any program, script with jake's permission can install stuff that's out of your control this way16:16
JakesDenI will only run a script or program if i trust it as well16:17
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: okay. And probably you could tell me a few things i should try once it goes bad ?16:20
MyrkHi guys, is there a dedicated room for CUPS issues or can I ask here ?16:20
JakesDenmy laptop is getting so hot it is starting to hurt keeping it on my lap16:22
JakesDennow i guess i need my laptop cooler again16:23
ubuntu166anyone knows?16:23
MyrkJakesDen: have you tried cleaning the fan ?16:23
JakesDenthe fan is clean16:23
JakesDenits a old dell latitude D620, it warms up quite quickly16:24
codfection_I have16:24
codfection_e642016:24
BluesKajpr3c0g:  this might help http://blog.coffeebeans.at/archives/89616:24
codfection_dell latitutde16:24
JakesDenknow a program that will up the speed of its fan?16:25
codfection_msi16:25
codfection_afterburn16:25
JakesDeni use one on windows but i need one for ubuntu-mate16:25
codfection_ubuntu or mate16:26
codfection_which one16:26
codfection_both are different16:26
ubuntu166anyone knows why am i "unable to find a package" when I'm doing "sudo apt-get"?16:26
codfection_make sure ur internet is connected. ^16:26
MyrkMaybe your package doesn't exist on that repository16:26
BluesKaj!u16:27
ubottuShortened English is difficult for some non-native English speakers to read. Please use full words instead. Thanks!16:27
xanguaubuntu166: sudo apt update, try again16:27
ubuntu166it is, i'm browsing this IRC from the Ubuntu install16:27
JakesDeni am using a distro called ubuntu mate16:27
BluesKajmate is your desktop16:27
BluesKajit's still ubuntu16:27
JakesDenubuntu-mate.org16:27
codfection_JakesDen, why not default ubuntu?16:28
BluesKaj!flavors16:28
ubottuRecognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. The current list is: !Edubuntu, !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, Ubuntu !Kylin, !Lubuntu, !Mythbuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, !Xubuntu, and Ubuntu !MATE16:28
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JakesDeni like mate desktop environment more16:28
ubuntu166it tells me : "245 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them."16:28
pr3c0gBluesKaj, I'll try that16:28
codfection_run ^ : sudo apt-get install all16:28
xanguaJakesDen: are you saying that the overheat is normal in both windows and Linux?16:28
ubuntu166cannot find package "all"16:29
JakesDenubuntu-mate.org16:29
codfection_unity is official by ubuntu.16:29
ducasseubuntu166: 'sudo apt full-upgrade'16:29
JakesDenthe laptop overheats on both16:29
codfection_run ^ : sudo apt-get full-install16:29
xanguacodfection_: Ubuntu mate is part of the official Ubuntu family16:29
ubuntu166oh man, why is this so complicated.. but it seems to be "hard at work" now.16:30
codfection_xangua, I heard ubuntu unity is more supported by the rest16:30
xanguaubuntu166: it's just codfection_ giving bad advice16:30
ubuntu166the "full-upgrade" line worked16:30
codfection_cooll16:31
BluesKajcodfection_:  check your commands before posting them please16:31
codfection_sorry I dont use ubuntu mate16:31
ducasseubuntu166: you probably should reboot afterwards, that was a lot of upgrades.16:31
BluesKajdoesn't matter the ubuntu commabds worjk for all flavours16:31
ducassecodfection_: apt-get install all wouldn't work anywhere16:31
ubuntu166ducasse: why isn't it's being done automatically by the OS/software update?16:32
BluesKajcommands even16:32
ubuntu166ducasse: why do I need to write a line of code to do it manually?..16:32
JakesDeni forgot to update in a while so now i have 258 updates to do16:32
codfection_coz its not OS X16:32
codfection_its linux I guess16:32
ducasseubuntu166: the update manager should ask you, check it's settings16:32
codfection_Linus torvalds didnt want linux to be user friendly16:33
xanguacodfection_: please stop16:33
JakesDenbrb16:34
codfection_xangua, I am serious16:34
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: If it is going bad.16:34
ducassecodfection_: chat goes in #ubuntu-offtopic16:34
codfection_I saw his interview16:34
codfection_alright16:34
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: what ?16:35
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: Writing it, sorry haha16:35
ZeekHugeokay :)16:35
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: I would check whether changing the resolution while it is still connected to something else, to see if it fixes it (without disconnecting the monitor)16:36
BluesKajcodfection_:  linus just looks after the kernel , he seldom uses a browser or a desktop16:36
codfection_ducasse, dont mind but I see everyone here talking offtopic mostly16:36
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: If it does, go back to the old resolution. If it is still having conniptions, something else is at play which I am unsure of.16:36
rahul_kummiinto which directory should i generally extract the .tar.gz files to install an application.16:37
Admin___so, I installed xen in ubuntu, grub detects and runs xen, when it then prompts to run ubuntu, does it run virtualized, how can i find out?16:37
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: It might be a driver issue, but I don't know how drivers for external monitors work (I know with normal monitors).16:37
bobby__hi guys16:37
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: ahh .. okay, I even switched from lightdm to gdm, though I think it must not be the problem, but this was an accepted ans.16:38
bobby__i really want to contribute to open source project, but i feel i can't contribute.Please help me, give me some advice.Thank you !16:38
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: Actually, you could do that. Check using lspci -k, that should tell you the driver the monitor is using.16:38
ZeekHugeits intel16:38
ZeekHugeoh okay16:38
OerHeksrahul_kummi, a fresh empty folder in your /home/ will do fine16:38
ZeekHugesorry that i98616:38
ZeekHugeI blv16:38
ZeekHugelet me checl16:39
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: This is starting to get into my "I need to Google" area haha16:39
akikAdmin___: try xm info or xl info. if that returns info on dom0, you're running xen16:39
OerHeks!contribute16:39
ubottuTo contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu16:39
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: its i91516:40
ZeekHugebut16:40
rahul_kummiguys can someone help16:40
Admin___akik, you mean running xen hypervisor in ubuntu host or running ubuntu as a guest on xen?16:40
rahul_kummibut when i ina16:40
akikAdmin___: your question was "how to know if i'm running xen?"16:40
ubuntu857Sorry, the full upgrade of apt-get did not work. I can't still locate package called "encryptfs-utils".16:41
rahul_kummiOerHeks, but when i install using apt-get where would the file be extracted16:41
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17217814/16:41
Admin___akik, I mean if ubuntu is running virtualized in xen16:41
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: what about that second VGA thing ?16:41
ducasserahul_kummi: apt-file list packagename16:41
OerHeksrahul_kummi, ohhh .. apt get installs the files in the place they need to be, no other action required16:42
akikAdmin___: when you boot your xen hypervisor, you'll end up in xen's dom0. then when you create additional xen vms, they're domU16:42
OerHeksrahul_kummi, after install, the program is ready16:42
bobby__<ubottu> Thank you16:42
ZeekHugeand terminal_crawler : http://paste.ubuntu.com/17217875/16:42
Admin___akik, when I run xen in grub, I just get a black screen with option to run ubuntu or ubuntu.efi. this is the only ubuntu on the system, where I installed xen from16:43
akikAdmin___: yes, the ubuntu installation on top which you installed xen hypervisor is still ubuntu16:44
rahul_kummiwhat is the /opt/ directory earmarked for?16:44
ducasserahul_kummi: 'optional'16:45
OerHeksrahul_kummi, /opt/ is for third-party applications that don't rely on any dependencies outside that folder16:45
bernardois there any way to play a specific musical note using aplay?16:45
ubuntu857can anyone help? I can't still find the package "ecryptfs-utils "16:46
Admin___akik, I'm guessing if/when I install VM's using whichever tool, they will also show alongside ubuntu, so when I run xen from grub and then choose ubuntu, does ubuntu run virtualized on top of xen?16:46
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: And you said it was a Lenovo laptop, right?16:46
pr3c0gBluesKaj, I installed that package and rebooted16:46
ubuntu857when I'm using apt-get install..16:46
oaulakhwhy my microphone not working on ubuntu it's working just fine on windows but not on ubuntu16:47
akikAdmin___: the ubuntu installation that you see boot on your hardware is called xen dom016:47
codfectiongo16:47
akikAdmin___: i suggest you go read some docs about it16:47
ducasseubuntu857: try 'apt update'16:47
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: yeah .. lenovo thinkpad T43016:47
pr3c0gI would like to have a way to control bass, surround, and the other stuff sound blaster cinema 2 had (http://i.imgur.com/225XvAv.png)16:47
pr3c0gIt's currently the only thing bothering me on Ubuntu / Linux16:48
ubuntu857ducasse: Tried it now, same result.16:48
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: I can't see a Dell laptop in that list.16:48
coolstar-pcwhat's a good hex editor that works well in KDE?16:48
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: It is currently working, correct?16:48
ubuntu857ducasse: I'm trying to run the line "sudo apt-get install ecryptfs-utils cryptsetup"16:48
ubuntu857ducasse: So I can encrypt my home folder16:49
coolstar-pcI can't seem to find oketa in the ubuntu repos :/16:49
coolstar-pc(I'm on kubuntu 16.04)16:49
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: The monitor is a Dell monitor16:49
ZeekHugeand yes working correctly16:49
ZeekHugefor now atleast16:50
ducasseubuntu857: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list somewhere16:50
na_Hello! I installed Ubuntu but it not run :( Help please!16:50
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: I can see there is another controller there, the Nvidia graphics card.16:51
coolstar-pcah, found it. was mispelling okteta as oketa16:51
coolstar-pcthat's why it wasn't finding it -_-16:51
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: If you disconnect the monitor, do any of those lines dissappear?16:51
na_H E L P P L E A S E ! ! !16:51
rahul_kummiwhat are the purposes of /etc/ and /opt/ directories?16:51
ducassena_: calm down!16:51
na_Whats partitions need create?16:51
na_Partitions by manual16:52
ubuntu857ducasse: http://pastebin.com/raw/PgZdv40N16:52
OerHeks!partitioning | na_16:52
ubottuna_: For help with partitioning a new install see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition | For partitioning programs, see !GParted (recommended) or !PartitionManager. Other partitioning topics include !fstab, !home, and !swap16:52
tgm4883na_: minimally, the root partition /16:52
ducasserahul_kummi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview16:53
tgm4883rahul_kummi: run 'man hier'16:53
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: when monitor is not connected http://paste.ubuntu.com/17218329/16:53
na_I use LVM16:53
Admin___akik, I have, according to the image dom0 is virtualized http://wiki.xen.org/mediawiki/images/0/09/Xen_arch1.png16:53
na_I need /boot and / only!?16:53
rahul_kummithank you tgm4883 andd ducasse16:53
thauanoi16:53
akikAdmin___: "Dom0 is the initial domain started by the Xen hypervisor on boot. Dom0 is an abbrevation of "Domain 0" (sometimes written as "domain zero" or the "host domain"). Dom0 is a privileged domain that starts first and manages the DomU unprivileged domains."16:54
ducasseubuntu857: will cryptsetup alone install?16:54
ubuntu857lets see.16:54
BluesKajpr3c0g:  if you check alsamixer again you should see a seto f volume ctrls that you can navigate with the arrow keys. the updown arrow kwys are used for turning the volumes up or down and certain options on or off , any volumes that have MM in the box are muted and the automute is enabled by default , best to disable it with the doen arrow.16:54
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: I connected it back, and its still working ! :(16:54
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: Weird.16:55
na_What partitions Ubuntu create by automatic?16:55
terminal_crawlerI looked at the pastebins, they are identical.16:55
akikAdmin___: "The Xen hypervisor is not usable without Dom0. This is essentially the "host" operating system (or a "service console", if you prefer). As a result, Dom0 runs the Xen management toolstack, and has special privileges, like being able to access the hardware directly."16:55
ubuntu857ducasse: yes I think it did install16:55
BluesKajpr3c0g:  to unmute use the M key16:55
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: I noticed that no kernel drivers are being loaded for the NVIDIA controller.16:56
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: That might be related.16:56
ducasseubuntu857: now try ecryptfs-utils by itself16:56
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: See if this helps you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/393848/external-monitor-display-on-thinkpad-w520-with-12-0416:56
na_HEY&16:56
ZeekHugeI intentionally didi that setting so as to avoid over heating.16:56
ubuntu857ducasse: unable to locate package16:56
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: ^16:56
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: Ah okay.16:56
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: That may or may not be causing the monitor problem though, if the Intel chip can't handle it.16:57
na_faggots16:57
Admin___akik, does that mean I always have to boot dom0 before booting the other VM's?16:57
ducasseubuntu857: there must be something wrong with your mirror, try another one and run apt update again before you try to install16:57
ducassena_: language!16:58
ubuntu857ducasse: do i change a mirror in the system settings?16:58
akikAdmin___: yes. please read the docs :)16:58
ducasseubuntu857: 'software & updates', i think16:58
ubuntu857ducasse: tried to change to a different mirror, same result17:00
ubuntu857ducasse : plus ran apt update before trying to install17:00
ubuntu857ducasse : and after changing the mirror17:00
terminal_crawlerZeekHuge: Must fly. Best of luck and hopefully chat to you tomorrow.17:01
ZeekHugeterminal_crawler: okay . Thank you :) sure17:01
ducasseubuntu857: make sure you type ecryptfs-utils again, don't use the history.17:01
JasonSomehi!!17:02
JasonSomea question: why do I have a /etc/cron.d/jffnms file even though I have never installed jffnms (from what I remember at least!)? Is it installed by default on Ubuntu 16.04?17:03
ubuntu857ducasse: I did what you said, but it's the same result.17:03
ubuntu857ducasse: even when I manually retyped it again.17:03
ubuntu857ok wait17:03
ubuntu857damn17:03
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ubuntu857I found a typo17:03
Bashing-om!info jffnms17:04
ubottujffnms (source: jffnms): PHP Network Management System. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-3ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 399 kB, installed size 2640 kB17:04
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ubuntu857oh god17:04
ducasseubuntu857: ah. :)17:04
ubuntu857I typed "encrypt-fs" instead of "ecrypt-fs". What a mistake just waiting to happen. what is "ecrypt" anwyays?!17:04
JasonSomecan I view whether it was installed some time and removed another time?17:05
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NoobFanHi,, is is it possible to resize the disk in ubuntu17:05
ducasseubuntu857: it's just a name. there is also something called encfs.17:05
ubuntu857ducasse: Basically, I tried to encrypt my entire HDD at installation, BUT I'm installing on external HDD, so the option of erasing everything and installing with the default settings was probably not good since it would install on the main HDD and not on the external HDD by default17:06
Bashing-omJasonSome: The log file /var/log/dpkg may give some hints .17:06
ducasseubuntu857: you could have used manual partitioning.17:06
ubuntu857ducasse: Then I picked "encrypt my home folder" at the ubuntu setup. And when I did that the setup took 10x longer than usual, and afterwards said it failed to install17:07
JasonSomeBashing-om: That file is soooo big. How can I search it for a string without opening it?17:07
\9NoobFan: you'll need to use a live session for that. you can't resize the partition currently being used17:07
JasonSome(I mean without opening it in gedit)17:07
ubuntu857ducasse: I can use manual parittioning for installing plain-text ubuntu, but how can I force it to encrypt everything on the extternal HDD?17:07
ubuntu857ducasse: I'm using manual partioning already in order to install it on the HDD17:08
ubuntu857on the external HDD17:08
ducasseubuntu857: i know you can use the server installer, not that familiar with the desktop installer. but now you can just run ecryptfs-migrate-home17:08
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ducasseubuntu857: but read the man page first!17:09
OerHeks" to encrypt everything " will be an option during install ubuntu85717:09
ubuntu857OerHeks: No it wasn't an option when I did the manual partioning..17:09
ducasseOerHeks: yes, but on an alternative drive?17:09
ubuntu857ducasse: Is it problematic that I used "apt-get full-upgrade" ? did viruses get inserted this way?17:09
ducasseubuntu857: no.17:09
ubuntu857ducasse : how can viruses can get hold of ubuntu then - from where?17:10
ubuntu857ducasse: When I installed ubuntu it asked if I allow to install third party software to enable wireless and MP3 and etc. I refused since I thought maybe there is virus in one of these third parties..17:10
Bashing-omJasonSome: When one does ' apt-cache depends jffnms ' and apt-cache rdepends jffnms ' one sees that a likely candidate is php and.or mysql . Does that help ?17:11
OerHeksinstalling on an ext hdd .. be carefull to select the ext hdd for grub bootloader17:11
ducasseubuntu857: that's not a problem with packages from the repos.17:12
OerHekswhen something foes other than planned, it must be a ubuntu-virus17:12
ubuntu857ducasse: By packages, do you mean "third party software" such as wireless drivers and MP3 codecs?17:12
MatumarosHi, I need some help installing the newest Ubuntu, I have multiple issues17:13
ducasseubuntu857: even those, yes. as long as they are in the ubuntu repos they should be clean.17:13
JasonSomeubuntu-virus? such things exist???17:13
ubuntu857ducasse: Thanks for all your help, but I have a nagging feeling it won't be the last time I will need help in this evening.17:14
MonkeyDusta virus? exciting! source?17:14
Bashing-om!virus | JasonSome17:14
ubottuJasonSome: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux, except where files are then passed to Windows computers (perhaps using Samba). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus17:14
ducasseubuntu857: you are welcome, but i'll be logging off soon :)17:14
OerHeksJasonSome, sure, addictive users got it.17:14
oaulakhwhy my microphone not working on ubuntu it's working just fine on windows but not on ubuntu17:16
chickenwhere can I find the online install? i can only use CD-ROM.17:16
OerHekschicken, the mini iso fits on cd, it is a netinstaller ( wired network required)17:17
OerHeks!mini17:17
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD17:17
chickenOerHeks: hmm so no WIFI?17:18
chickenso I'm better off getting DVDs and do that right?17:18
OerHekschicken, indeed, as there is no 'live environment' to install so17:18
chickenok17:18
MonkeyDustchicken  wifi needs to be configured, cable does not (and it is faster and more stable)17:18
nedstarkoaulakh, try using pulse audio volume control, pavucontrol, to change the mic source17:19
OerHekschicken, or USB stick?17:19
chickeni do have a USB stick yeah17:19
esiodoshola buenas tardes17:19
esiodosque tal17:19
esiodosa todos17:19
MonkeyDust!es17:19
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.17:19
Bashing-omchicken: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/xenial/ . Not for the faint at heart to do a minimal install . And correct. all that you have is a wired connection .17:19
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MatumarosI have a 1TB HDD and a 16GB SSD, can I install it so 38 MB are used for efi (/dev/sdb1), the rest of the 16 GB for root on /dev/sdb2 (ext4) and on the HDD 8522 MB for swap and the rest for /home?17:21
codfectionAnonymous17:21
codfectionMatumaros, why dont u select auto select to let ubuntu select for ya.17:22
oaulakhnedstark, pavucontrol not exist17:22
Matumaroscodefection: because it totally ignores the SSD17:22
EriC^^_Matumaros: yes, you can17:22
Matumaros*codfection, sorry for mispelling17:22
EriC^^_Matumaros: choose Something else in the installer, and manually partition17:22
MonkeyDustcodfection  don't say 'u' and 'ya', use proper English17:22
MatumarosEriC^^_ thanks17:23
OerHeksMatumaros, is this a 1Tb hdd/16gb ssd duplo drive? where the 16gb supposed to be a cache?17:23
codfectionMonkeyDust, is that a rule?17:23
hid|ninjaMonkeyDust: shakespear used u17:23
Bashing-omMatumaros: The system had Windows originally (still) and the SSD is a raid device to assist in "fast startup " of Windows ?17:23
MatumarosOerHeks: I don't remember what they were supposed to do, I just thought it's a good idea to install the system on it17:23
codfectionPerhaps focusing on solutions rather than few mis spells would fulfill purpose of this support irc.17:24
nedstarkoaulakh, you could install it and see if it works, i've usually had better luck with pavucontrol than other apps17:25
MatumarosBashing-om: The system had Windows7, then I upgraded it to 8, then installed Debian and now tried several times to install Ubuntu17:26
MatumarosMy computer is a Acer Aspire G362017:26
codfectionMatumaros, was it utilizing the 16 gb ssd on debian?17:27
Matumaroscodfection: I don't think so, Debian offered an advanced option that the Ubuntu install doesn't17:28
codfectiondid you see an option of 16 gb ssd there?17:29
Matumaroslike a "set it up with /home, /tmp, /usr or something like that17:29
oaulakhnedstark, package not found17:30
Matumaroscodfection: I didn't format it on my own, I let the installer do it. Originally I thought I had two HDD's of the same size which were 1 TB in total17:30
codfectionso do the same for ubuntu17:30
MatumarosCan I put all the partitions on Primary?17:30
codfectionjust out of curiosity, why u wanna switch from debian to ubuntu?17:30
codfectionyup. you can17:30
Matumaroscodfection: It didn't work too well on the computer and I want to install newer software (which the Debian community doesn't seem to understand)17:31
codfectionwell, ubuntu is based on debiam17:31
codfectiondebian*17:31
codfectionso versions are pretty much similar/same17:32
codfection!latest17:32
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.17:32
nedstarkoaulakh, there's a link to it on this page, you should be able to install it from software center https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/pavucontrol/17:32
Matumaroscodfection: yeah I know, as far as I understand (maybe I'm wrong) is that there are more frequent releases of Ubuntu and the "noob" amount is bigger, so ideal for me :P17:32
codfection!reading17:33
MatumarosBack to the formatting: Both root (/) and home (/home) need to be ext4, right?17:33
codfection!google17:34
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.17:34
BluesKajMatumaros:  yes17:34
codfection!version17:34
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »17:34
MatumarosHey BluesKaj, didn't you help me last time?17:34
ducasseMatumaros: not at all, you can use any supported fs.17:34
BluesKajMatumaros:  well, I tried ;-)17:34
Guy1524guys, the game Rust, which is a unity game, runs faster on my windows installation.  And this happens with many games.  What things are causing this games to run faster on windows.  I have an nvidia GTX 960 with proprietary drivers, and from what i have heard they are really up to par w/ the windows ones.  And if it is OpenGL, why is openGL slower than directX?17:35
BluesKajducasse:  let's not go there17:35
ducasseBluesKaj: :)17:35
Guy1524*Direct3D17:35
codfectionGuy1524, which laptop is that17:35
MatumarosDevice for boot loader installation should be the efi one, right?17:36
Matumarosor /dev/sdb (which is the SSD)?17:36
ducasseMatumaros: efi system partition on an uefi system.17:36
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Guy1524codfection: its a desktop with an evga gtx 96017:37
codfectionI know very less users of linux on desktop17:38
codfectioncant help you there, sorry.17:38
BluesKajless =few17:38
codfectionBluesKaj, english is not my native language. but yea thanks for correcting me17:38
Guy1524im not asking for help specifically with my machine, I just would like to know why game generally always seem to perform better on windows17:39
Bashing-omMatumaros: EriC^^_ is our guru of booting . I will defer to his advise in this situation . However, what returns from the live installer "sudo wipefs /dev/sda". Note that you should not just trust me that that command is safe (even though it is), you should run "man wipefs" and confirm for yourself that the command will just list all visible filesystems (and in this case, RAID metadata) .17:39
BluesKajcod too many users confuse less and few , i have fewer dollars but less money17:39
codfectionGuy1524, my guess would be that linux/gnu is not a mainstream OS for gamers.17:39
BluesKajcodfection: ^17:39
codfectionBluesKaj, thanks. will remember:)17:40
tgm4883Guy1524: sounds like the game isn't optimized for linux17:40
MatumarosBashing-om: I don't understand what you mean, sorry :(17:41
codfectionMatumaros, thats why I love linux. lots of technical stuff opens up17:41
jkhlIs it possible to save the state of processes to reload on reboot in Ubuntu/Mint? I'm about to try this way: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30931/how-do-i-make-a-program-auto-start-every-time-i-log-in , just wondering if anyone had success with another way.17:42
ducasseMatumaros: the bootloader goes on the efi partition if the system boots in uefi mode.17:42
codfection!simple17:42
codfection!simplicity17:42
Bashing-omMatumaros: In installing ubuntu .. IF the SSD has raid meta data on it as an aid to Windows .. the desktop installer does not have the tools available to cope with raid .17:43
codfection!life17:43
ubottulife is something very few people know about in this channel - and anyway, it's probably offtopic, perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic17:43
Matumarosducasse: I'm not sure it does, it has uefi, but I might have disabled that when installing debian, the issue is that I don't get back into that BIOS menu anymore :(17:43
tgm4883codfection: can you not play with the bot in the channel17:43
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codfectiontgm4883, how to find the list of !?17:44
BluesKajcodfection:  don't clutter the chat bot infor that isn't required by anyone17:44
tgm4883codfection: https://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi17:44
jkhlI mean it's possible but is there a working feature for that?17:44
codfectionBluesKaj, sorry I am pretty new to this irc stuff17:44
codfectionthanks17:44
ducasseMatumaros: in that case it most likely is, and you can set a variable to access the menu on the next boot from ubuntu.17:44
MatumarosAfter installing Ubuntu for the last times I always got the message "Please insert bootable device" or something like that17:45
Matumarosusually I got into BIOS by pressing F2, but that doesn't work17:46
Matumarosnow I'm entering by pressing del, but that menu looks very different than the other one17:46
MatumarosInstallation is done, I'm restarting now17:46
bernardohow can I make ubuntu say stuff17:47
MatumarosAlright, now I'm getting the message "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key"17:48
MatumarosI tried the help on this website: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair17:48
Velveeta_ChefUEFI secure boot still on?17:49
MatumarosI created a bootable CD (because I don't have a USB stick that I could use right now and I have masses of CD's) but it's not booting from that17:49
Tin_manbernardo, try this link17:49
Tin_manhttps://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/espeak-gui/17:49
MatumarosVelveeta_Chef: highly unlikely, I disabled secure boot with Debian17:49
MatumarosHow can I get back into the BIOS menu?17:49
Velveeta_Chefwhat platform?17:50
ioriabernardo, orca17:50
Velveeta_Cheffor Dell it's usually F217:50
MatumarosVelveeta_Chef: it's a Acer Aspire G362017:50
Matumarosit is F2 for as well, but it doesn't work17:50
Matumarosit worked before17:50
Matumarosnow only the del key works, but that is a different menu17:50
tgm4883Matumaros: it's worth noting that if F2 worked before then it should still work. Installing Ubuntu doesn't affect that17:51
Matumarostgm4883: well, but it doesn't17:52
Velveeta_ChefWhen I was installing Ubuntu on my Dell laptop I noticed sometimes hitting F2 during a reboot wouldn't work, I would need to do a shut down, wait a few seconds, and then power up17:52
tgm4883Matumaros: well ok, but there's nothing Ubuntu could do to stop that from working17:52
MatumarosVelveeta_Chef: I rebooted a million times by now, over the course of a week or so17:52
hexafractionHello all, I currently have a non-working Ubuntu installation mounted on a Ubuntu VM in /media/{user}/{uuid}, and I need to somehow find the list of PCI devices and their bus IDs on the physical machine. Is there any log file where that info may have gotten dumped?17:52
ducassehexafraction: dmesg or kern.log, maybe?17:53
hexafractionducasse, I'm looking now. Thanks17:53
glassanyone running ubuntu-mate 16.10?17:54
ducasseglass: #ubuntu+117:54
glassnice thanks ducasse17:54
MatumarosCan somebody help me fix it booting rather than showing the message "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key"?17:55
MatumarosI don't know what to do, I'm so frustrated by this :(17:55
bernardohow can I giggle ubuntu?17:56
ducasseMatumaros: you might have turned on csm, so that you need to  install in legacy mode.17:56
bernardois there any way to abort a child with ubuntu?17:56
tgm4883bernardo: completely off topic17:56
ducasseMatumaros: you can boot a live image and see if /sys/var/efivars exists17:57
hexafractionducasse, took a bit of grepping but I found exactly what I need. Thank you so much.17:57
bernardoMatumaros: I suppose you could always try MD5 hashing the whole thing17:57
ducassehexafraction: np.17:58
Matumarosducasse: I'll try that17:59
Guest58574curious 1) what pid is kernel modules at  2) can you uses gdb to attach to a kernel module or do you need kgdb a kernel level debugger for that17:59
ducasseMatumaros: /sys/firmware/efivars, sorry.17:59
ducasseMatumaros: /sys/firmware/efi/efivars - dang :)18:00
Matumarosducasse: are you done yet? :P18:01
Matumarosit takes a while to boot18:01
ducasseMatumaros: if you get 'no such file or directory' you are in legacy mode. if it exists and contains entries you are in uefi mode.18:01
Matumarosducasse: as soon as it's done loading, right now I just have a black screen, but my computer is working on something18:03
ducasseMatumaros: select 'try ubuntu' instead of 'install' if you are booting the installer.18:04
Matumarosducasse: I did, it just took a while18:04
bst1I just made an upgrade from ubuntu 15.10 to ubuntu 16.04. and i got this error secure boot violation after which i disabled secure boot, but now I get the eroor drm intel_pipe_config_compare *error*mismacth in ips_enabled. kindly help18:05
Matumarosducasse: I am in efivars now, so it exists18:06
Matumarosthere are lots of files in there18:06
bst1I just made an upgrade from ubuntu 15.10 to ubuntu 16.04. and i got this error secure boot violation after which i disabled secure boot, but now I get the eroor drm intel_pipe_config_compare *error*mismacth in ips_enabled. kindly help.18:07
Matumarosducasse: what now?18:08
ducasseMatumaros: ok, then you are definitely in uefi mode. in that case you should just install and make sure your firmware has the right boot device set.18:09
Matumarosducasse: I already installed, I had selected the partition for efi18:09
Matumarosto boot18:10
ducasseMatumaros: then check the boot device in the firmware.18:10
Matumarosducasse: how do I do that?18:11
ducasseMatumaros: in the 'bios'.18:11
Matumarosducasse: you mean the bios that I can't reach :)18:11
ducasseMatumaros: egg-sactly ;)18:11
Matumarosducasse: so how do I do that? :P18:12
Guest58574well i tried debugging a .ko file objdump tells me its a recognizable elf binary but gdb test.ko  gives me error18:12
Guest58574cannot execute binary file: Exec format error18:12
ducasseMatumaros: no clue. i would call acer (it was acer, right?) support or email them.18:12
Matumarosducasse: I suspect that it would allow me into BIOS after that message is gone18:13
ducasseMatumaros: there is supposed to be an efi variable you can set to re-enable this, but i can't remember what it's called.18:13
Guest58574i chmod 777 of the .ko file so its not permissions i don't think why is it not recognizing the format. maybe you cann't gdb .ko's but if you insmod then can you attach to them for debugging? Gdb allowed me to set break points at init_module but when i run it all hell breaks loses18:15
Matumarosducasse: I'll look if I can find something on google, I'm not really thrilled to call a support...18:16
Guest58574maybe the only way is thru insmod and there is no way with out a kernel debugger to attach to it . Don't know anybody18:16
ducasseMatumaros: try emailing them.18:18
Matumarosducasse: if you scroll down to acer in this article: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/enter-bios-computer/ then you can see that F2 and del are apparently the same18:20
Matumarosit also shows that F10 might reset it, should I try that?18:21
ducasseMatumaros: i can't answer that, not familiar with acer.18:22
Matumarosducasse: oh wait, maybe I can check for the boot device, where would that usually be?18:23
Bashing-omMatumaros: Siopervisory password apply ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322306&highlight=Acer+Aspire+boot .18:23
foormeahi. can anyone think of a way to activate virtualisation in bios/uefi with no access to a screen? is there a way to write bios/uefi settings from linux with uefi/hybrid efi mobos?18:23
ducassefoormea: does the system have ipmi?18:24
MatumarosBashing-om: I'm not sure if that applies to my issue, because I don't just see a black screen18:25
foormeanot sure what that is, let me read up on it18:25
ducassefoormea: remote bios access, among other things.18:25
Matumarosducasse: did you mean that I should check from which device it boots first?18:25
Bashing-omMatumaros: Post #3 in the above link .. maybe ?18:26
ducasseMatumaros: yes, see which device the bios tries to boot from and set it to wherever you installed.18:26
foormeaducasse, pretty sure i don't have ipmi18:27
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ducassefoormea: then you need a screen.18:28
foormea:/18:28
foormeaok ty18:28
Aeacuso/18:29
Matumarosducasse: I just changed some things around and was able to select where to boot from when started18:29
AeacusI'm getting an error "error while loading shared library ../libldap_r-2.4.so.2: invalid ELF header" when trying to run kodi; any ideas?18:30
Matumarosducasse: the only thing I was able to select was "UEFI: SanDisk SSD P4 16GB"18:30
dracconiXorg (nVidia drivers) crashes after install 331 :(18:30
AeacusUsually I don't even get an image at all and have to ssh in18:30
Matumarosafter which I get the same message again18:30
MatumarosBashing-om: I'm not sure, I don't want to play around with it too much if there is an easier solution18:30
ducasseMatumaros: then the efi partition needs to be on that disk.18:31
Bashing-omMatumaros: As you are booting to the EFI partition you now have a different issue .18:31
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ducasseMatumaros: you can use efibootmgr to point the firmware to wherever the efi partition and bootloader is.18:32
MatumarosBashing-om: what do you mean?18:32
Bashing-omMatumaros: Prior .. could not boot at all .. now you at least get to the point of looking for the boot code .18:33
TheSindingHi guys, I have a couple of questions, I have just now installed ubuntu server with encrypted lvm, how do I add the rest of my drives to this encrypted lvm, so the become encrypted aswell18:33
TheSindingI know its something to do with VG and PV18:33
MonkeyDustTheSinding  there's also #ubuntu-server18:33
ducasseTheSinding: first encrypt them, then setup lvm on top of that.18:33
MatumarosBashing-om: I don't see how I'm any further, I just enabled Boot Menu and disabled Quiet Boot, to see what happens18:33
GallomimiaTheSinding: to encrypt a drive, first you must erase it.18:34
dracconiguys, anyone have solution to blank screen after installing nvidia-331 on hybrid card (14.04)?18:34
Gallomimiaso, copy the data somewhere else, or set up an encrypted drive and copy it to there, then scrub the old drive18:34
Matumarosducasse: how do I do that?18:34
TheSindingBut do i have to enter the passpharse for each drive, when i want to open it? or is it gonna be opened with the main drive then ?18:34
foormeaisn't it safe to set up lvm and just encrypt a /home partition ?18:35
ducasseMatumaros: the installer should do it for you automatically, if it gets it wrong you need to do it manually. i would try to reinstall now that it boots properly.18:35
MatumarosBTW, Boot Priority Order is [Remavable Device], [CD&DVD], [Hard Disk: UEFI: SanD...] and [LAN], I also tried to switch them around18:36
ducasseMatumaros: i don't have time to help you with efibootmgr, logging off soon, so you would need to read the documentation.18:36
Matumarosducasse: nothing has changed, it still is exactly the same as before18:36
ducasseMatumaros: i thought you said you set it to ssd?18:37
Matumarosducasse, Bashing-om: btw, I don't mean to be rude, I'm just very frustrated :/18:37
ducasseMatumaros: np.18:37
Matumarosducasse: no, that was the option of what I could select to boot18:37
Matumarosducasse: so what you are saying that I should get efibootmgr on a CD? and then boot that and install it?18:39
ducasseMatumaros: ok. in that case read this - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#efibootmgr - you might want to look at the rest of the page also.18:39
ducasseMatumaros: efibootmgr comes with ubuntu.18:39
Matumarosducasse: oh, phew :)18:39
Matumarosthanks, I will read it18:40
Matumarosthanks so much for your help18:40
ducasseMatumaros: if you can pastebin the output of 'sudo efibootmgr -v' i can take a quick look.18:40
Matumarosducasse: that is the next issue...I don't have working internet, I have a USB WiFi adapter which doesn't work out of the box18:41
FikiCan somebody recommend some good PDF software and scanning software, it's the area I feel I really can't find comparable software to say windows :P18:41
Matumarosducasse: also, presumably I should do these things in the live version?18:41
ducasseMatumaros: live version, yes. basically what you want to do is create an efi entry that points to where grub is installed.18:42
MonkeyDustFiki  easyscan and xsane are popular18:43
Matumarosducasse: you really have faith in me to do that alone? :P18:43
MonkeyDustFiki  make that 'simple scan', not easyscan18:43
ducasseMatumaros: if you read the documentation _carefully_ you should be fine :) hang on, i'll give you an example.18:44
Matumarosducasse: that is exactly the issue, my attention span when reading is very small :P18:44
ducasseMatumaros: "efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sda -p 1 -l '\EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi'" - where /dev/sda is the disk where the efi partition is, -p 1 means it is the first partition.18:47
ducasseMatumaros: that's really all there is to it.18:47
FikiMonkeyDust, nvm just found VueScan exists for linux!18:48
Matumarosducasse: oh :) how does it count the partitions?18:48
ducasseMatumaros: the way linux does. /dev/sda3 would be '-d /dev/sda -p 3'18:48
dracconiguys, anyone have solution to blank screen after installing nvidia-331 on hybrid card (14.04)? I need to make this working...18:49
MatumarosI see, so for me it would probably be  "efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sdb -p 1 -l '\EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi'"18:49
Matumaros@ducasse18:49
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ducasseMatumaros: i'd guess so, yes. you can check with lsblk.18:50
Bashing-omdracconi: How do you know that the 331 version is correct for your card(s) ?18:52
dracconiBashing-om: I read that. I have nVidia GF 645M + Intel HD18:52
dracconiBashing-om: but ubuntu use (when i install 331) 34018:54
Bashing-omdracconi: Pastebin ' lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' ' and I will match the driver for the reported hardware .18:54
Matumarosducasse: that outputs "BootCurrent; 0004", "Timeout: 2seconds", "BootOrder: 0005, 0004, 0003, 0001, 0000, 0002", "Boot0000 Windows Boot Manager", "Boot0001* debian", "Boot0002 ubuntu", "Boot0003* UEFI: SanDisk SSD P4 16GB", "Boot0004* UEFI: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH82N" and "Boot0005* Linux"18:54
dracconiBashing-om: http://hastebin.com/alijeneqif.css18:55
ducasseMatumaros: 'sudo efibootmgr -n 0002'18:57
Bashing-omdracconi: Nope .. Nvidia recommends the 361 version : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/103306/en-us . So next is what have you done that must be undone in order to install the driver ?18:57
Matumarosducasse: I shut down again :/18:57
MonkeyDustFiki  i was going to advise vuescan too, but forgot the name18:57
Matumarosducasse: I'm restarting live mode now18:57
dracconiBashing-om: you think it will work?18:57
ducasseMatumaros: also, 'sudo efibootmgr -a 0002'. run those two commands, reboot, and you should be in ubuntu.18:58
Matumarosducasse: I'm not religious, but I pray :D18:58
Bashing-omWell .., nothing like matching the proper driver to the hardware .. be aware that 14.04 does not have that driver in the repo . If you choose to go this route . will require our trusted PPA for the 361 version driver .18:59
Matumarosducasse: it doesn't matter that I restarted, right?18:59
Chris55I can't connect to the Internet with a fresh install of 16.04 desktop.  Can anyone help me?19:00
Bashing-omdracconi: Sorry ^^ .19:00
ducasseMatumaros: no, just run both commands when the system is back up.19:01
ducasseMatumaros: on my system i will get a menu of which os to boot (except i only have ubuntu :) if i press f8 while booting, yours should have something similar as it's part of the uefi specs.19:02
Bashing-omdracconi: For your added consideration; what returns ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' .19:02
dracconiBashing-om: i will say sth - 304 not working ;p19:03
dracconiBashing-om: nvidia-30419:04
dracconinvidia-340-updates19:04
dracconinvidia-35519:04
dracconinvidia-304-updates19:04
dracconinvidia-34019:04
dracconinvidia-35819:04
dracconinvidia-35219:04
Bashing-omdracconi: Uh Huh .. I can believe that .. old driver .. new hardware .19:04
Matumarosducasse: ok, on the second command it says "You must specify a boot entry to activate (see the -b option"19:04
ducasseMatumaros: '-b 0002 -a'19:05
ioria!info nvidia-35819:05
ubottuPackage nvidia-358 does not exist in xenial19:05
Bashing-omdracconi: So, back to : what have you done that we must  now undone to install a current driver ?19:05
Matumarosducasse: ok, I'm restarting19:06
dracconiBashing-om: actually i tried to install some drivers, but actually... Every driver worked till the reboot.19:06
Matumarosducasse: didn't work :(19:06
dracconiBashing-om: here you have full http://hastebin.com/itogahemis.hs19:06
ducasseMatumaros: what happens when you reboot?19:07
Matumarosducasse: the exact same thing as before19:07
Matumarosducasse: "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key"19:07
ioriadracconi, can you paste apt-cache policy nvidia-358 ?19:07
dracconiioria: http://hastebin.com/yahepoxaro.sm19:08
Bashing-omdracconi: Ubderstandable .. as what is loaded will be what is .. until the reboot .// OK to get just a glimmer of the situation . what returns in a pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?19:08
mib_mibhi all - i have some servers rented in a datacenter running ubuntu 14.04 and running a mysql server - when i run cat  /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor -> powersave ; is this recommended to run powersave at all if i dont pay for power? will it extend any life of the cpu or otherwise?19:08
dracconiBashing-om: http://hastebin.com/uyijakotog.vhdl19:09
mib_mibor should i switch this to performance mode?19:09
Bashing-omdracconi: Look'n at th last .. and in the list of available drivers is cutting edge drivers from "some" PPA .. we will need to know that source .19:09
ducasseMatumaros: ok, sorry. i'm not really sure what to suggest then, as i've really got to go. i would guess there is something wrong either in the bios setup or in how ubuntu is installed.19:09
Matumarosducasse: thanks anyway :)19:10
ducasseMatumaros: probably the latter.19:10
dracconiBashing-om: i think its from graphic-drivers ppa19:10
Matumarosducasse: I will try to reinstall as it is recommended19:10
ducasseMatumaros: sorry i couldn't get it working, but things are getting kind of busy here :)19:10
dracconiBashing-om: installed by nvidia-current19:10
Matumarosducasse: don't worry, I appreciate that you took so much time for me :)19:11
Bashing-omdracconi: Presently you do have a driver conflict . OK sources .. what returns ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .19:11
ducasseMatumaros: you're welcome :) you might want to try installing from the server image, i feel it gives better control, and you get a log on virtual console number 4.19:12
dracconiBashing-om: long list... http://hastebin.com/ojuvewaruq.coffee19:12
Bashing-omdracconi: K .. be back shortly .. reading .19:12
ioriadracconi, have you tried the drivers suggested by ubuntu-drivers list before adding ppa ?19:16
dracconiioria: to be honest, i didnt know that - i'm new in linux19:16
alanclark5hi channel19:17
ioriadracconi, well, before adding a ppa , you first try them (in dash you type Additional drivers)19:17
dracconiioria: so you suggest to install 361?19:18
OerHeksdracconi, so you actually run elementary-os :-D19:19
Chris55I need help with Internet connection.  Fresh install of 16.04 desktop does not work.  I can ping the network card but not the router or 8.8.8.819:19
ioriadracconi, your list has been altered by the ppa19:19
dracconiOerHeks: nope, this is just desktop19:19
dracconiioria: simplier please?19:19
ioriadracconi, if you install 352, for example, you'll get it form ppa , not from the ubuntu repo19:20
ioria*from19:20
dracconiioria: ok...19:20
des_consoladoHey I just installed python-pip and pip -V shows it's version 1.5.6 from python 2.7 :( is pip for python 3 not on the repositories?19:21
Bashing-omdracconi: PK. now .. with that many PPAs .. there is a 40 GPG limit .. how many keys do you have ' ls /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d | wc -l ' . Then we return to cleanup .19:21
dracconiBashing-om: 3219:22
des_consoladooh it's python3-pip, got it19:23
Bashing-omdracconi: K, a bit of room there . Now what are you running .. as elemetary is not supported here .. there are difference we can not adjust to . show ' lsb_release -a ' .19:24
dracconiBashing-om: it shows eOS, but its only the desktop :(19:24
dracconiBashing-om: is this possible to make eOS ubuntu, which is my os?19:25
Bashing-omioria: IRT dracconi and elemetary; what say you ? Should we proceed in this ?19:25
ioriaBashing-om, you're on top of me19:26
Bashing-omdracconi: Well ,, it is ubuntu repo, so I guess we can proceed . Let's try ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ; sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt install nvidia-361 nvidia-prime ; sudo shutdown -r now ' . See what results when you come back up .19:29
dracconiBashing-om: i want to ask one think before i proceed - is deleting xorg.conf harmless19:30
Bashing-omdracconi: Required .. and it may be corrupt .. and will not match the new driver .. A new file "should" be created upon the driver install .19:31
ioriadracconi, you can back up it instead of delete  mv it19:31
dracconiioria: sooo...19:31
dracconiBashing-om: what i have to do when it crash?19:31
ioriadracconi, mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back19:32
Bashing-omdracconi: Positive think'n .. not going to crash .. if it does .. we boot to terminal ( no GUI ) and find out why .19:32
ioriadracconi, if you set in there some custom configs... if not, no worries19:33
dracconiBashing-om: and another question - will it be solved in 30 mins?19:33
dracconiBashing-om: i need to do these cmds in tty?19:34
Bashing-omdracconi: Best ask the driver Gods that one .. who knows til we try and see what results " and then !19:34
BlueProtomanI'm trying to run a local instance of MySQL and PHPMyAdmin, but I get this error when I do `sudo dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin`: " mysql: [Warning] mysql: Empty value for 'port' specified. Will throw an error in future versions ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) ."  Any tips?19:34
BlueProtomanOn Ubuntu 16.04, that is19:34
Bashing-omdracconi: Yes .. in terminal ( ctl+alt+F1 ) will suffice for this exercise .19:34
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dracconiBashing-om: and another question how to remove eOS desktop?19:40
OerHeksBlueProtoman, maybe mysql has died? sudo service mysqld start19:40
OerHeks!ppapurge19:40
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html19:40
Bashing-omdracconi: I pass on removing a DE .. Others will have to advise .19:41
OerHeksbut with that many ppa's .. good luck mister19:41
BlueProtomanOerHeks: `Failed to start mysqld.service: Unit mysqld.service not found.`19:41
dracconiBashing-om: what?19:41
BlueProtomanOerHeks: I didn't use any PPAs to install this (or are you talking to someone else)19:41
OerHeksBlueProtoman, that was for dracconi19:42
BlueProtomanDerp, sorry19:42
Bashing-omdracconi: I can not advise on a good reliable means to remove a Desktop Environmnet (Eos) .19:42
OerHeksBlueProtoman, no clue , you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server too19:42
dracconiBashing-om: so i need to reinstall19:43
dracconi?19:43
ioriadracconi, you installed elementary from ppa ? so use ppa-purge to remove it19:44
dracconiioria: umm it not working (nothing is removed)19:44
dracconiioria: but the eOS de is avaible lol19:45
Bashing-omdracconi: "need" no .. If this is ubuntu .. it is always fixable . But removing a DE .. well .. I am not comfortable advising one how to .19:45
OerHeksadding a PPA is no problem, removing one from many can give vary results19:45
dracconiBashing-om: and one more question - when i have ubuntu on two partitions ext4 (1 mounted on / and 1 on /home) how can i reinstall ubuntu harmless?19:45
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ioriadracconi,  However you can use Synaptic to remove it19:48
DandelsSo I'm not exactly very experienced with the peculiarities of ubuntu, but see no reason why removing a desktop environment would make anything break. Even removing your display manager should simply just make you boot to a tty19:48
BlueProtomanI'm trying to run a local instance of MySQL and PHPMyAdmin on Ubuntu 16.04, but when I go to `localhost/phpmyadmin` I get an HTTP 500.  Plain old `localhost` is the default apache2 page for Ubuntu, as expected.  Any tips?19:48
Bashing-omdracconi: Well ,, if multi DE's were not a factor, one just chooses NOT to format /home in the re-install .. now I just do not think I would . But your system, your effort . Me I would do a clean fresh install ; and install once more the softwares I do want .19:49
Mina_No run no one OS. Help please!19:51
Bashing-om!help | Mina_19:51
ubottuMina_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:51
DandelsMina_, hmm? That's not a complete question.19:52
Mina_mbr gpt crashed?19:52
monty_hallI'd like to launch a script when I unlock my workstation19:54
monty_hallhow to do this?19:54
dracconimonty_hall: Startup applications19:55
dracconiBashing-om: ok, running this command19:56
monty_hallso if I've logged in, locked it, walked away and then unlocked it it will launch startup everytime?  I thought startup application only happened on login.19:56
monty_hallit's crucial it's unlock.19:56
monty_hallthough I'll take startup for the time being.19:56
monty_hallthink my coworker is logging into my workstation when I walk away19:56
monty_hallgoing to snap a photo w/ webcam when workstation is unlocked.19:57
monty_hallsure I can change the password but I want to nail this b*tch19:57
MonkeyDustmonty_hall  it's dbus related ... http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/28181/run-script-on-screen-lock-unlock19:58
Mina_sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda  This command no will crash my date?19:58
Mina_data19:58
monty_hallthanks19:59
Bashing-omMina_: That ^ depends .. on the type of partitioning .. and IF /root is on that 1st hard drive .20:03
Mina_grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.20:03
Mina_I use gpt20:04
k1l_Mina_: i dont understand what your issue is and what you are trying to do on what setup20:04
Bashing-omMina_: Target partiton containing /root not mounted ?20:04
EriC^^Mina_: what's your issue?20:05
DandelsHe said something about gpt, mbr and no os booting20:05
DandelsJust guessing he has a broken dual boot20:05
Mina_No one OS no run20:06
EriC^^Mina_: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999920:06
EriC^^paste the link it gives you here20:06
k1l_Mina_: there is #ubuntu-ru if you want to use your native language20:06
Mina_here need guru20:07
k1l_!details | Mina_20:07
ubottuMina_: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.20:07
Mina_link?20:07
MonkeyDust!ru20:07
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.20:07
Bashing-omMina_: EriC^^ is that guru . atend well to his advise .20:07
alanclark5i had a network issue, did anybody see my curl question?20:08
rahtgazHello all. I used the live version of Ubuntu 16.04 to test it out and noticed that the python versions shipping with it were 2.7.11+ and 3.5.1+. What dopes the plus sign mean?20:08
Mina_ I installed Windows - no run Installed Ubuntu - no run20:09
Bashing-omalanclark5: Nope, do not see it in " lastlog " .20:09
MonkeyDustMina_  if windows won't run, and ubuntu won't run, it may be hardware related20:09
Mina_just gpt/mbr20:10
EriC^^Mina_: can you boot a live usb of ubuntu on it?20:10
Mina_dd default mbr image use?20:10
Mina_im here20:11
Mina_i see data20:11
Mina_I see all partitions all work20:11
EriC^^Mina_: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com20:11
alanclark5oh, thanks. here it goes again. i know what curl does but how does it work when the command is called to fetch a website over http, and what it does on the server side (assuming is an ubuntu server).20:11
bpromptEriC^^:     since she's crossposting at another channel, Mina_  said, she's got a GPT 1tb hdd in a BIOS firmware machine, something went south with it, she has windows( dunno what version ) and ubuntu in it, neither OS work, already explained to her to do a full reinstall and make the hdd MBR table instead, and before wiping, to save any files she needed20:11
EriC^^in a terminal20:11
EriC^^Mina_: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999920:11
Mina_This is nc from the netcat-openbsd package. An alternative nc is available in the netcat-traditional package. usage: nc [-46bCDdhjklnrStUuvZz] [-I length] [-i interval] [-O length]   [-P proxy_username] [-p source_port] [-q seconds] [-s source]   [-T toskeyword] [-V rtable] [-w timeout] [-X proxy_protocol]   [-x proxy_address[:port]] [destination] [port]20:11
DandelsI suppose the same applies for ubuntu?: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dual_boot_with_Windows#Windows_UEFI_vs_BIOS_limitations20:11
Mina_16.04 live20:12
SchrodingersScatalanclark5: what do you mean 'how does it work'?  It sends the request and the server responds, curl displays things based on the flags you give it20:12
lernerim going to test the newest kernel (4.7 rc1) to check if a bug keeps bugging, my architecture is 64 bits, im aiming for the generic, but here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.7-rc1-yakkety/ there are 2 amd64.deb generics... do I need them both? one is 1MB the other 56MB20:12
EriC^^Mina_: sorry, there was a typo20:13
EriC^^Mina_: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 999920:14
k1l_lerner: you need headers and image20:14
Mina_http://termbin.com/e7nb20:14
EriC^^Mina_: type ls /sys/firmware/efi20:15
EriC^^does it show efivars?20:16
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Mina_ls: cannot access '/sys/firmware/efi': No such file or directory20:16
EriC^^Mina_: ok, so the live usb is booted in legacy mode20:16
EriC^^Mina_: type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt20:17
EriC^^then ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 999920:17
Mina_UEFI i think20:17
Mina_ok20:17
monty_hallhow do I disable apache service at startup20:17
EriC^^Mina_: nope, it's in legacy mode right now (the live usb)20:17
EriC^^monty_hall: which ubuntu?20:18
Mina_ok20:18
monty_hall14.0420:18
EriC^^monty_hall: update-rc.d -f disable apache220:18
EriC^^monty_hall: * update-rc.d -f apache2 disable20:18
Mina_Eric^^20:19
EriC^^Mina_: ?20:20
Mina_So?20:20
Mina_sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt20:20
EriC^^yeah20:20
EriC^^then ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 999920:21
Mina_http://termbin.com/th4p20:21
EriC^^Mina_: ok, looks like windows was installed in uefi mode, ubuntu was installed in legacy mode20:22
lerner.......20:22
monty_hallcan't seem to mount ext fat drive in ubuntu 1420:22
monty_hallis there some package that I need to install20:23
monty_hallthis is for a thumb drive20:23
monty_hallextfs20:23
Mina_And?20:23
EriC^^Mina_: enable uefi in the bios, disable csm legacy support, mess around with any ahci settings, you should be able to get windows to boot20:23
lerneri installed the new kernel 4.7 as instructed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds and errors where encountered: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/nvidia/gm204/gr/gpccs_inst.bin for module nouveau , how bad is that? I dont use nvidia drivers, but the fallback linux graphica card drivers...20:24
EriC^^Mina_: then boot the ubuntu live usb in uefi mode (try ls /sys/firmware/efi to make sure it's booted in uefi mode) then install it20:24
Mina_There UEFI + Legacy and UEFI20:24
PrincessCoderDasHi20:24
EriC^^Mina_: choose uefi alone20:24
Dandelshi PrincessCoderDas20:24
PrincessCoderDasWhat is the subject we are talking about?20:24
Mina_ok20:24
PrincessCoderDasHi Dandels20:24
DandelsJust random people with different issues20:24
PrincessCoderDasOkay xD20:24
PrincessCoderDasCurrently coding but i thought it may be nice to chat sometimes instead of sitting the whole day in my house lol20:25
Dandelslerner, probably not a problem. You'll know if things don't work, but the warning message doesn't mean anything is necessarily wrong20:25
\9just because you chat doesn't mean you aren't spending the whole day in your house20:25
tgm4883PrincessCoderDas: this is the support channel. If you want to chat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic20:25
PrincessCoderDasI know but still. Okay thanks tgm dude.20:26
monty_hall14.04  doesn't have exfat-fuse or exfat-utils20:28
lernerok, the experimental kernel 4.7 appears if I execute dpkg -l | grep linux-image: linux-image-4.7.0-040700rc1-generic , but there are no extras (linux-image-extras)... do I need them to test this new kernel?20:28
monty_hallhas this been removed?20:28
k1l_lerner: they are testkernels. dont expect full service20:28
bluejeanshi20:29
monty_hallnvm20:29
monty_hallI was adding a "t"20:29
monty_hall:P20:29
SimooonHi I can't get my graphics card working does anyone have any ideas? I'm running ubuntu 16.04 and have a Gorrce GTX 780M, and my computer works fine (but slowly, think it is just using the intel graphix) with the nouveauy driver installed, but every time I install an nvidia driver, it just goes black when I start up. It makes the normal sound, and I can type my password and enter the desktop environment, where my computer closes down if I press th20:31
Simooone turn off button, but everything is black. If I enter an other tty I get the expected commandline and can uninstall the nvidia driver, and everytjing works like normal after a restart. Any insight will be greatly appreciated.20:31
lernerok k1l_ aaaaaaaaaargh20:31
lernerI need to uninstall the linux-image-extra, what will happen if I do that?20:32
lernerwill something break?20:32
k1l_lerner: and as i said already: you need kernel image and headers deb20:32
lernerno k1l_ im somehere else now...20:32
lernerkernel in use right now has extras , which I need to uninstall20:32
k1l_lerner: no. that is very important if you want to use closed source drivers like the nvidia one20:32
k1l_lerner: why that?20:33
vevaisOy20:33
lernerif one is using select proprietary or out-of-tree modules (ex. vitualbox, nvidia, fglrx, bcmwl, etc.) unless there is an extra package available for the version you are testing, you will need to uninstall the module first, in order to test the mainline kernel.20:33
lernertaken from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds20:33
dbz2khow do I update my header files in /usr/local/include/20:33
alanclark5sorry i had issues again @SchrodingersScat  so does it open a socket to port 80, send a http get request or something like that? I am trying to replicate its functioning for a programming project20:33
lernerthere is no extras for 4.7, so I have to uninstall the extras for 4.4.0.22 (in use right now)20:34
k1l_lerner: did or did you not install the headers.deb matching your testing kernel?20:34
Bashing-omSimooon: What driver(s) is installed ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ? Does it match the hardware ?? (361 + )20:35
PsynoKhi0hi, if I attempt to dualboot 2 versions of in uefi mode on the same GPT formatted hard drive, provided I mount the same partition as /boot/efi on both, are they going to take turns handling GRUB after bootloader updates?20:35
lernerk1l_, I donwloaded headers AND image for 4.7 in 64 bits architecture, but there are no extras for 4.7...20:35
PsynoKhi02 versions of ubuntu*20:35
mistralolPsynoKhi0: simply no20:35
lernerI downloaded whats available k1l_ , the generic ones, but there are no extras...20:36
lernerI installed it with sudo dpkg -i *.deb from the directory in which I downloaded both headers and image20:36
k1l_lerner: yes, there are no extras. doesnt matter.20:36
PsynoKhi0mistralol: simply no, one will handle grub, or simply no, don't dual boot?20:37
mistralolPsynoKhi0: one will handle the grub config and then you wont be able to boot to the other one20:37
lernerk1l_, I want to avoid problems when booting if I dont delete the extras for 4.4 (actual kernel), so, do I nuke the extras for 4.4.0.22 or not?20:37
SimooonBashing-om, nvidia-304, nvidia-current, nvidia-opencl-icd-304, which as far as I can tell is what I need20:37
PsynoKhi0oh20:37
k1l_lerner: if it doesnt boot just go back to the older kernel in grub.20:38
lernerk1l_, I access GRUB pressinf f2, correct?20:38
k1l_lerner: its a testing kernel. i bet you plan to stay on that, which is definetly the wrong way20:38
lernerpressing20:38
k1l_no, esc20:38
k1l_no, left shift20:38
lernerno, I want to test with it20:38
Bashing-omSimooon: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/103306/en-us . Says the 361 version driver for the stated card .20:39
PsynoKhi0mistralol: so it has to be another distro?20:39
lernerill boot as soon as this south park episode ends20:39
Mina_EriC^^: ?20:40
mistralolPsynoKhi0: no20:40
mistralolPsynoKhi0: that wont work either for the same reason20:40
EriC^^yes?20:40
mistralolPsynoKhi0: if you have 2 distros you actually end up with 3 grub installs....20:40
Mina_There no Windows in List20:40
mistralolPsynoKhi0: you basically doing chain loading. So the main grub is used to select which other grub to load which is then controlled by each install20:41
EriC^^Mina_: are you in the live usb now in uefi mode?20:41
Mina_And if enable UEFI + Legacy then Name of the hd in list but it not run20:41
mistralolPsynoKhi0: but why anyone would need multiple instals on a single machine i do not know ;)20:41
Mina_YEs20:41
EriC^^Mina_: ok, type ls /sys/firmware/efi20:42
Mina_Now only UEFI enabled20:42
PsynoKhi0mistralol: here's my reason: gallium nine and padoka20:42
Mina_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /sys/firmware/efi config_table  esrt              fw_vendor  runtime-map  vars efivars       fw_platform_size  runtime    systab20:42
EriC^^Mina_: which windows are you trying to install?20:42
EriC^^Mina_: ok, type sudo apt-get install efibootmgr20:42
SimooonBashing-om, pretty sure I tried that one as well but I honestly cant keep count anymore, will try that one (possibly again) and return to tell what happend.20:42
Mina_i not trying I installed 100%20:42
PsynoKhi0mistralol: and a thrid install to keep up with rpm-based distros :)20:42
Mina_w 820:43
EriC^^Mina_: trying to boot :p20:43
PsynoKhi0maybe a forth for Arch...20:43
Bashing-omSimooon: What releae are you on ? As that drivr is not available in the 14.04 repo .20:43
mistralolPsynoKhi0: you realize you can run most things inside a virtualmachine or inside docker or another type of jail?20:43
Mina_I have it20:43
Simooon16.,0420:43
EriC^^Mina_: ok, try sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 999920:43
SimooonBashing-om, 16.0420:43
Mina_no run20:43
SimooonBashing-om, there is a newer version as well, I defenately tried that one, and that did not work.20:44
Mina_http://termbin.com/ihht20:44
SimooonBashing-om, okay it is installed, will restart brb20:45
PsynoKhi0mistralol: can I use different GPU drivers/modules for my AMD card w/o jumping through PCI passthroughs that way though :P20:45
EriC^^Mina_: ok, windows isn't in the efi list20:45
EriC^^Mina_: try to reinstall windows with uefi only set20:46
EriC^^then ubuntu20:46
Mina_ok20:46
Bashing-omSimooon: K.. good to go .. purge what you have and rm the present /etc/X11/xorg.conf file . Might see what the sytem chooses to install ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' and be done with it :)20:46
mistralolPsynoKhi0: well you could by using a different kernel at boot time or by unloading / loading the gpu drivers ;)20:46
lizard_hi20:48
PsynoKhi0hmmm20:48
SimooonBashing-om, nope same as all the other tries, loginscreen is completely black, though it seems to be there, just not rendered somehow.20:49
SimooonBashing-om, any other ideas? :-)20:50
Danielh90I really want to switch to ubuntu but I'm afraid too.20:50
Bashing-omSimooon: Boot the guest session and GUI is good ?20:50
Simooonhow do I do that?20:50
SimooonBashing-om, how do I do that?20:50
Bashing-omSimooon: Ar the login screen I expect there to be an option to choose "guest" .20:50
SimooonBashing-om, Oh, but by that point everything is already black, I just see the grub menu, and then the ubuntu with some dots underneath, and then everything is just black, but the sound for the login screen is there.20:52
Bashing-omSimooon: If the GUI is good in other sessions .. indicates a problem in the configs of your session .20:52
Bashing-omSimooon: Have you pruged the old drivers prior to installing another ? what have we ' dpkg -l | grep -l nvidia ' ?20:53
Bashing-ompurged*20:53
OerHeksmaybe nomodeset helps20:54
Danielh90Should I move to ubuntu desktop or keep with windows 10?20:54
OerHeks!nomodeset20:54
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:54
SimooonBashing-om, well when it does not work I purge the nvidia drivers, and then when I get it back again, the 304 versions have apeared again.20:55
SimooonI could try purging that one before I install another, but as far as I can tell, it does that automatically? Not sure if I tried that yet though.20:56
SimooonBashing-om,  (sorry forgot to ping ) I could try purging that one before I install another, but as far as I can tell, it does that automatically? Not sure if I tried that yet though.20:56
IREALLYambatmanHey guys.. has anyone figured out how to move buttons to the right of windows for 16.04?20:59
xanguaIREALLYambatman: in unity, you don't21:00
IREALLYambatmanNo one has patched unity?21:00
tgm4883I'll play, what's to patch? It's not broken21:00
IREALLYambatmanWhat is 'second' best.. Should I switch to Gnome?21:01
Bashing-omSimooon: What I have found to be a best practice ' sudo apt purge nvidia '. Then see what the system installs ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' .21:01
DandelsWhat does "move buttons to the right of windows" mean? Move the panel to the right?21:02
IREALLYambatman"So until someone can produce a suitable patch for the Unity source code, and I would personally welcome such a patch, we are stuck with buttons to the left."21:02
SimooonBashing-om, okay will try that in half an hour, got a skype call :-) but thanks for the sugestions :-)21:02
IREALLYambatmanLike the minimize close fullscreen buttons21:02
tgm4883IREALLYambatman: there used to be a theme to do it IIRC21:02
Bashing-omSimooon: OH . remove the old /etc/X11/Xorg.conf . A new one should be made .21:02
IREALLYambatmantgm4883, I thought that wasn't able to be done anymore21:02
tgm4883IREALLYambatman: possibly not, IDK, I like the buttons on the left21:03
SimooonBashing-om, will do that as well21:03
IREALLYambatmanSorry guys I know I'm asking REALLY REALLY newby questions.. I used to run debian back in the days and am trying to relearn everything21:03
xanguaIREALLYambatman: the patch is: use another desktop environment; and if you like customize your desktop you won't like gnome that much either21:04
IREALLYambatmanxangua, I just want it to FEEL like a windows gui, I tried installing a windows theme, didn't do much. What would you recommend?21:04
xanguaIREALLYambatman: xfce and KDE are pretty much still the same and allow the user to customize it21:05
k1l_IREALLYambatman: look at xubuntu, lubuntu or ubuntu mate.21:05
bpromptIREALLYambatman:    I use LXDE which is openbox-based, and in openbox, the buttons atop of the window are configurable, to the left or right, and you can rearrange them, if you want the close button first, middle, wherever, hmmm the same is true for Kwin kde windows manager btw, those buttons are also customizable for kwin21:05
xanguaKDE looks kinda like windows 10 if that's what you mean21:05
IREALLYambatmanIs it easier to just install KDE or reinstall all of kubuntu?21:06
bpromptIREALLYambatman:    there's an LXDE-qt,  same as lxde, just a bit fancier, same, uses openbox customization and settings21:06
OerHeksthe only feel-like-windows is windows.21:06
Shibehow can I search ubuntu repositories online?21:06
Shibeubuntu 16 ones21:06
k1l_Shibe: packages.ubuntu.com21:07
Bashing-omShibe: ' apt-cache search <term> ' .21:07
k1l_IREALLYambatman: you can install the desktop meta packages21:07
ShibeBashing-om: I'd do that but i'm searching a package for 16.04 even though I'm on 1421:07
Bashing-omShibe: Then as k1l_ advises ^ ,21:08
Shibeyeah thanks I found the package I was looking for21:08
PsynoKhi0mistralol: I'll investigate that option, thanks21:08
bpromptIREALLYambatman:     depends on what you have, if you can reinstall, I'd do so, I installed kubuntu on an ssd in about 8mins21:09
IREALLYambatmanbprompt, >.< ok. I kinda already installed a lot of stuff here, didn't want to re-install everything21:10
k1l_IREALLYambatman: as i said: you can install the desktop metapackages21:10
bpromptIREALLYambatman:   then install kubuntu-desktop package21:10
IREALLYambatmank1l_, looking for the package name now21:10
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bpromptIREALLYambatman:     lxde or lxde-qt are openbox-based, and the window buttons are customizable as well, as aforementioned, lxde-qt is just a bit fancier21:11
k1l_there are xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, (i dont know the mate one of my head). i dont really find kde to be windows lookalike.21:11
cageHey guys, is there a easy way adjusting mouse acceleration on ubuntu? I did some research and most ended up with etc/X11/xorg.conf stuff, which seems doesnt get generated on default anyway ( actually tried tweaking it with some guide and ended up with more troubles )21:12
cagenot on the ubuntu pc now, but for later reference would be appreciated21:13
bpromptcage:    xinput, or using xset -> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration   <--- you could do it in xorg.conf or add it to $HOME/.bashrc I'd think21:16
cageyea, i've come a cross that link but i had trouble with the xorg.conf part of it21:19
bpromptcage:    then maybe do it wtih xset, in a script, and have .bashrc run it21:20
cageyea that looks like something i could manage ^^21:21
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Cursarionhi21:30
CursarionI just installed Lubuntu21:30
Cursarionthere doesn't seem to be a root account?21:30
bpromptCursarion:     but  you do have your regular user account, right?21:32
OerHeks!sudo21:32
ubottusudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !pkexec (for older releases: !gksu and !kdesudo). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo21:32
Mina_EriC^^?21:33
EriC^^Mina_: yes?21:33
EriC^^any luck?21:33
k1l_Cursarion: ubuntu doesnt use the root account, it uses sudo. see the bots message21:33
Mina_Windows copy files and reboot and not run from the hard drive21:33
Mina_Windows installation...21:34
Cursarionah21:34
Cursarionwell, sudo is alright then21:34
EriC^^Mina_: ok, try setting it to legacy only21:34
Mina_I have gpt Legacy work woth MBR21:34
Mina_with21:35
CursarionI have a SSD, how's things regarding those nowadays? Should I check mount options or something?21:35
Bashing-om!trim | Cursarion21:35
ubottuCursarion: Many Solid State Drives support TRIM, which allows the drive to do garbage collection and improves performance. Ubuntu 14.04 activates it by default. For older versions, see http://askubuntu.com/a/19480 for information on activating it.21:35
EriC^^Mina_: ok, type sudo fdisk /dev/sdX21:36
Mina_If I boot UEFI then i not see in boot list my hard drive, but I see it in Legacy21:36
EriC^^press "o" to make a fresh mbr, then press "w" to write21:36
bpromptCursarion:    in case you need to do a "su" session, you can always do a "sudo su", and that works, just like in any "su" session, don't forget to exit, and keep in mind that you're rooted... according to cannonical folks, is an welcome security extra, that should help many folks from messing something up inadvertentely, reason why is kinda tucked in "sudo" or much rather have folks use "sudo" most of the time21:36
EriC^^then use sudo fixparts /dev/sdX to remove the remaining gpt from it21:37
Mina_And my data?21:37
Mina_All will be removed?21:37
EriC^^yes21:37
Mina_NOOO21:38
Mina_hey?21:38
EriC^^ok21:38
EriC^^can you back it up somewhere until you've done the conversion?21:38
bpromptCursarion:   nothing special per se, for ssd's, just another storage drive, is all21:39
Mina_no21:39
CursarionBashing-om: hmm, so, a scheduled trim is enabled by default then? How's it implemented, I checked crontab and it's empty21:39
Mina_I not made conversions21:39
EriC^^Mina_: are you in ubuntu live usb with uefi only?21:39
Cursarionbprompt: yeah, sudo's neat, but I've generally used su a lot too21:39
Mina_I just install first Linux and remove then second...21:40
Mina_Yes21:40
EriC^^Mina_: ok, try sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 quickly21:40
Bashing-omCursarion: Sorry, That is all I am aware of .. that it is supported .. in the kernel ?21:40
bpromptCursarion:    I do both, used to do quite a few "su" in SuSE, but also used sudo, so...I use both, depending on the need21:40
Mina_Use netcat. nc: getaddrinfo: Servname not supported for ai_socktype21:40
EriC^^Mina_: try again21:41
Mina_Use netcat. nc: getaddrinfo: Servname not supported for ai_socktype21:41
bprompthehe21:41
bpromptMina_:    I don't think he meant you to enter "quickly" at the end btw =)21:41
EriC^^Mina_: try sudo blkid | grep fat21:42
EriC^^does it sat /dev/sda2 at the start? just 1 line21:42
EriC^^*say21:42
Mina_i cant post here21:43
EriC^^just see the start of it21:43
lolhi21:43
EriC^^if it says /dev/sda2 or something else21:43
Mina_2 lines21:43
lolwho is here??21:43
lol_hi21:44
EriC^^Mina_: try sudo apt-get install pastebinit21:44
EriC^^sudo parted -l | pastebinit21:44
ErigeI can find any straight answer, I would like to use unity on my 2-1 one when I use touch screen, and XFCE when I am in desktop mode. I currently have Xubuntu installed, would I run into any problems installing ubuntu-desktop,21:44
Mina_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo parted -l | pastebinit Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes.21:45
EriC^^Mina_: was one of the 2 lines before /dev/sda2?21:47
Mina_no21:47
EriC^^what were they21:47
Mina_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo parted -l | pastebinit Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes. KeyboardInterrupt caught. ubuntu@ubuntu:~$21:47
Mina_nothing21:47
Mina_it not work21:47
EriC^^no i mean with sudo blkid | grep fat21:47
Mina_how to post?21:48
EriC^^sudo blkid | grep fat | pastebinit21:48
Mina_http://paste.ubuntu.com/17232569/21:49
CursarionBashing-om: mkay21:49
Cursarionhow should I install new software?21:49
Cursarionsynaptic+21:49
Cursarion?21:49
EriC^^Mina_: ok, try sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\Microsoft\\Boot\\bootmgfw.efi -L "Windows" -p 2 -d /dev/sda21:49
k1l_Cursarion: any packagemanager you like. most in here use "apt" on terminal or the softwarecenter in GUI21:50
Mina_ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\Microsoft\\Boot\\bootmgfw.efi -L "Windows" -p 2 -d /dev/sda  | pastebinit ** Warning ** : Boot0000 has same label Windows http://paste.ubuntu.com/17232626/21:50
EriC^^Mina_: btw, whatever you do (in case this doesn't work), dont convert gpt to mbr using gdisk, i tried it today and it ruined my hdd and the data even21:51
EriC^^(the transformation gpt to mbr option in gdisk)21:51
EriC^^Mina_: try sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 999921:51
Mina_I many times convert mbr to gpt and gpt to mbr for windows 8 and 721:52
Mina_gdisk21:52
EriC^^Mina_: with the data there?21:52
Mina_yes of cose and all work many time21:52
EriC^^Mina_: i've tried it before and i think it has worked, but today i tried it and the disk's partitions were gone, it said disk no label, i recreated them using old pastes but when i mounted the stuff the data wasn't there21:53
mr-khi everyone,21:53
EriC^^i wouldn't recommend it obviously21:53
Mina_http://termbin.com/drr821:53
mr-kwhat engine uses ubuntu phone for hybrid apps?21:53
mr-kwebkit -> blink? gecko?21:54
Mina_ok21:54
EriC^^Mina_: it looks like windows is already in the efi list21:54
EriC^^Mina_: did you try to disable/enable secure boot?21:55
Mina_UEFI only21:55
Mina_no21:55
Mina_and where it?21:55
EriC^^under uefi21:55
EriC^^boot options, maybe under security21:55
bpromptmr-k:    I'd think webkit, one may note blink is just a webkit for, but I don't think it's gecko, I know android uses webkit21:56
Mina_I not found it in BIOS21:56
bprompts/for/fork/21:56
EriC^^Mina_: which laptop?21:56
Mina_http://images.anandtech.com/doci/8394/MSI%20Z97GP%20BIOS%2021%20-%20Boot.jpg21:57
mr-kandroid uses webkit, yes. the thing with ubuntu is they always release the distro with firefox pre-installed21:57
Mina_but i have h97 model21:57
mr-kand I think that, the default engine in ubuntu browser is gecko.21:58
Cursarionk1l_: okay, thanks... lubuntu software center seems bit buggy :| but seems to work21:58
mr-kso, i'm a bit worried about that21:58
k1l_mr-k: the ubuntu browser is a chromium thing21:58
CursarionI wonder if I should get any drivers or so, the fan is going crazy21:58
bpromptmr-k:     well, hmmmm I know kubuntu uses webkit, though it comes with firefox installed21:58
mr-kit's chromium? since when?21:58
Cursarionand I'm running nothing at all21:58
EriC^^Mina_: it should be somewhere, maybe security21:59
mr-ktried in 14.04 and was still gecko, so glad if they switched tho21:59
mr-kbah.. gecko is a great engine. it is. webkit feels more native somehow.21:59
Mina_i go to BIOS22:00
Mina__I not see in BIOS security boot option22:04
Mina__EriC?22:05
Mina__And dd reading sectors?22:05
Mina__first and last 1 Mb22:05
cbfmchey people22:07
Danielh90Should I switch to ubuntu for my main driver? os22:07
cbfmccan anyone help out with minitube?22:07
bpromptDanielh90:    that's more of a question for you, not us :)22:07
Bashing-omDanielh90: Use the tools that suit you best .. all things considered .22:08
bpromptcbfmc:    I don't use it myself, so, though I'd say, IIRC SMplayer has a youtube plugin22:09
Danielh90bprompt, Bashing-om Ubuntu and windows can do the same thing for me :) I have been on windows for many years and would like a change22:09
k1l_Danielh90: since you ask here: move to ubuntu :)22:10
Danielh90Would you guys recommend ubuntu?22:10
OerHekscbfmc, didn't you ask this yesterday too ?22:10
Mina__EriC^^: ?22:10
bpromptDanielh90:     well, may well be, but that's a decision that belongs to you, not us though :)22:10
Danielh90k1l_, will do Thanks22:10
OerHekscbfmc, old bug ( 12.10 ) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/minitube/+bug/1061092  no way to play, use an other youtbe app22:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1061092 in minitube (Ubuntu) "minitube does not play anything" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:10
OerHekscbfmc, and the project is dead on github :-)22:11
Bashing-omDanielh90: So, make up  desktop live mediums . and see what you like . In the "try ubuntu" mode will not effect the present instaled OS .22:11
bpromptDanielh90:     I would recommend Cramps medicine, tis good, now, if you are not female and get cramps.. then they won't do much for you though, though it may work great for females with cramps, so.... it's a decision that you have to make22:11
bpromptDanielh90:    I mean, ask  a snake oil salesman if he would recommend snake oil, what do you think he's going to say?22:13
Cursarionumm... the fan is going even faster, despite I'm not running anything22:13
Cursarionhow do I know if I need some drivers or something?22:13
bpromptCursarion:    for kubuntu you mean?22:14
Cursarionlubuntu, but yeah22:15
CursarionI'm a bit concerned about whether my hardware is properly supported or not22:15
k1l_Cursarion: open system-properties-gtk and see the drivers tab22:15
bekksCursarion: More like you should clean your fan and heatpipe :)22:15
bpromptCursarion:    nope, you mean you clean-installed Lubuntu ?22:15
Cursarionbekks: it's a brand new computer with AMD FX-837022:16
hello-zerois there a way to stop a specific package (in this case nginx) being upgraded when i do apt-get upgrade ?22:16
Cursarionbprompt: well, I made a USB stick with the image and installed it22:16
EriC^^Mina__: is there a boot menu for uefi you can access while the pc boots?22:16
bekksCursarion: Maybe the fan is undersized.22:16
Cursarionafter that I installed the updates that it found22:17
IREALLYambatmanWhat is the right apt-get install package for KDE?22:17
Cursarionk1l_: I don't have that22:17
bekksIREALLYambatman: sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop22:17
Cursarionbekks: well, it's possible22:17
IREALLYambatmanbekks, thanks22:18
bpromptCursarion:     well, bear in mind that Lubuntu tis just Ubuntu using LXDE as desktop and windows manager, the drivers are still the same as any Ubuntu's22:18
Cursarionwell, yeah, but would Ubuntu have all the optimal drivers at this point?22:18
bpromptCursarion:    I mean, you may have changed the blinds, you didn't change the house though, so.. the house is still uses the same drivers as before22:19
Cursarionyes, but I have never used Ubuntu on my own computer before, and not especially on this one22:19
Cursarionso I wouldn't really know22:20
IREALLYambatmanKDE is prompting me to chose a default display manager... SDDM or lightDM.. which should I go for?22:20
Cursarionthe software & updates tool checked for propietary drivers and it found Unknown that isn't working22:20
bekksIREALLYambatman: lightdm22:20
Cursarionit offers amd64-microcode driver though22:21
CursarionI'll install that and see what happens22:21
bpromptCursarion:     well, if you want to check hardware drivers and such.... you can always make -> sudo lshw  <--- a call22:21
IREALLYambatmanbekks, thanks.22:21
bpromptCursarion:    and/or "lspci" and "lsusb"22:21
Cursarionat installation I opted out from the propietary software thingie22:21
Cursarionhow do I know if something's missing?22:22
IREALLYambatmanI got on screen warnings about error's and terminal gve me the error.. Errors were encountered while processing:22:23
IREALLYambatman /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb22:23
IREALLYambatman /var/cache/apt/archives/kaccounts-providers_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb22:23
IREALLYambatmanE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)22:23
bekks!pastebin | IREALLYambatman22:23
ubottuIREALLYambatman: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.22:23
bekksIREALLYambatman: Please patebin the entire output, not just a few lines.22:24
nicomachusIREALLYambatman: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'22:24
IREALLYambatmanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/17233895/22:27
Cursarionbprompt? are there any obvious clues to see if something might be missing?22:27
IREALLYambatmanThat gave me errors too.22:27
IREALLYambatmanshould I logout and try switching to KDE?22:27
bekksIREALLYambatman: Why didnt you run the command I gave you earlier?22:28
IREALLYambatmanbekks, ? I did?22:28
bekksIREALLYambatman: Where, in that almost 6000 lineS?22:28
Cursarionand dunno, the case doesn't feel very warm22:28
Cursarionnor the air coming out from the fan22:28
Cursariona panel applet shows a temperature of 6022:29
bekksCursarion: And the heatpipe is hot.22:29
IREALLYambatmanbekks, lol. You told me not to leave anything out :P22:29
IREALLYambatmanill repaste22:29
Cursarionno idea what scale it uses22:29
bekksIREALLYambatman: Celsius scale.22:29
Cursarionmkay22:30
ronin-hi, will this kind of init script work in the latest ubuntu version: https://gist.github.com/naholyr/4275302#file-service-sh22:30
IREALLYambatmanbekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/17234022/22:31
bekksronin-: How about just trying it? :)22:31
IREALLYambatmanbekks, what is Celsuis scale?22:31
ronin-bekks: i have xubuntu 14.04 still :(22:31
bekksIREALLYambatman: Try removing all account-plugin-* packages.22:32
IREALLYambatmanSo sudo apt-get remove account-plugin-*?22:33
ronin-i just heard that this kind of things have changed recently in ubuntu, but i hope it works22:33
bekksIREALLYambatman: Yes.22:33
IREALLYambatmanbekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/17234147/22:35
Cursarionbekks: any idea about the unknown device that's reported as not working? As in, is there a way to find out what device it is, and possibly make it work?22:35
bekksIREALLYambatman: Did you do what line 68 suggests?22:35
bekksCursarion: Try looking at sudo lspci -k and sudo lsusb22:36
IREALLYambatmanbekks, didn't seem to fix it.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/17234220/22:37
bekksIREALLYambatman: http://askubuntu.com/questions/618389/trying-to-overwrite-usr-share-accounts-services-google-im-service-which-is22:38
IREALLYambatmanbekks, when I originally installed the KDE package I accidentally typed sudo sudo apt-get install kde-desktop, could that be the issue?22:38
Cursarionbekks: neither of those report any unknowns22:38
bekksIREALLYambatman: No.22:38
bekksCursarion: Of course they dont. :D22:38
Cursarionhardinfo actually reports opengl renderer as unknown22:39
bekksCursarion: But the give you the list of devices found - now you have to compare that list with the specs of the all components in your computer.22:39
bekksCursarion: Which points to your opt-out of proprietary drivers earlier.22:39
Cursariondidn't that refer to software packaged by Canonical partners?22:40
CursarionI'll go enable that now22:40
Cursarionand C library and default C compiler are unknowns too, but that hardly has anything to do with amd22:40
Cursarionenabling it didn't actually help, yet at least22:47
Cursarionbut now I have a warning box about System program problem detected22:47
AncoorHi, Im here because my shorewall not start automaclty after my last upgrade22:54
jaguncothis is a test22:56
Ancoornoone here?22:57
jaguncoi'm here22:57
bigLankyI have mounted a network drive using this command: mount -t cifs -o username=USERNAME,password=PASSWD //192.168.1.10/media/tv /SOME/PLACE22:57
bigLankyso on my box, I now have a mounted drive on /SOME/PLACE... I need to unmount that22:57
bigLankyI am using: umount /SOME/PLACE and I get message that it is not mounted22:58
bigLankynow it worked, that was weird22:59
jaguncogood23:00
jaguncoi'm noob with freenode, so why i can't send messages to some channels?23:01
k1l_jagunco: some channels need registration due to troll abuse. see the channels topic, that should explain it.23:02
bpromptjagunco:   channel is probably in +r mode, meaning, only registered nicknames can send post, eveyone else, can read-only23:02
jaguncoi understand, thank you both23:02
jaguncois there a way to list channel's modes?23:03
bpromptjagunco:   as  far as the abuse part, not sure I share that, some ops simply opt that mode, for their own reasons, sometimes not well founded though23:04
bpromptjagunco:    I think you can do a /who #CHANNELNAME23:05
k1l_no. channel modes are seen with "/mode #channelname"23:05
k1l_but i bet most topics should clear that bit already.23:05
jagunco"/mode #channelName" did not show anything for #vim channel :p23:06
Ancooranyone has any idea why my shorewall not restarting after reboot?23:06
k1l_jagunco: look into the server window of your irc client23:06
k1l_Ancoor: shorewall is just a frontend to iptables. so you mean iptables is not running?23:07
jaguncok1l_, bingo!23:07
jaguncothanx :)23:07
AncoorK1l_: It's running since when I start shorewall it's instant start of my rules.... :-)23:08
jaguncoif i start another irc client with another nickname, will i be able to speak to myself to do some tests?23:10
k1l_yes23:11
jaguncocool23:11
AncoorK1L_: Yes, iptables is running, im commincating with my server with ssh... no problem.23:11
wenzel62hi !23:12
wenzel62i installed a custom kernel on ubuntu 16.04, and i can't boot on it, the system hangs on grub loading the kernel23:13
AncoorShorewall is not longer supported?23:15
bprompt!shorewall | Ancoor23:16
ubottuAncoor: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo23:16
jaguncowenzel62: how did you get this kernel?23:16
wenzel62jagunco: i cloned linux on github23:17
wenzel62i did make oldddefconfig, make , make modules, make modules_install, make install23:17
OerHekswenzel62, unsupported, use the mainline kernels23:17
OerHeks!mainline23:17
ubottuThe kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds23:17
k1l_wenzel62: ubuntu uses a lot of patches in its kernels.23:17
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wenzel62but i'm working on an older version of the kernel23:18
wenzel624.0.0-rc323:18
wenzel62is this why it doesn't boot ?23:18
goudkovi had something really weird just happen on one server. ubuntu 14.04, on Xeon(R) CPU E5-2430, kernel 4.2.0. all of the sudden, cpuinfo was showing 160-200 MHz (yep, that's right), and the server was non-responsive. with 10+ load average where normally it's 0.50 with this workload. rebooting didn't help at first. then, it all went back to normal. have no idea what happened or how to stop it from happening again. help. really,help. i'm scared :)23:18
AncoorI usded shorewall since 1990.... really?23:18
goudkovcould be something with intel_pstate, but that's default driver for this cpu in this kernel.23:19
jaguncodoes someone here works for canonnical? i want to work remotely from home to contribute to free software, how can i start? is it possible?23:19
Guest84724Hello All... a question for you... I loaded ubuntu on an acer AspireONe a while back... when I went to use it recently, It said an update was available...but it didn't take  I had already deleted my windows xp... and so now I get a grub rescue... I tried to do a flash drive and cd install but nothing works... any suggestions?23:20
OerHeksAncoor, on what ubuntu version?23:20
AncoorDerHeks... mandriva23:20
OerHeksoh23:21
k1l_jagunco: canonical has job offers from time to time. see their announcements. for partizipation in ubuntu see !contribute23:21
AncoorI guess I need to learn new thing again23:21
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jaguncok1l_: i'm too newbie for the recent offers, i started programming 'bout 2-3 years ago, but now i know better the OO programming paradigm. I don't know how I can get paid working with free software23:23
jagunco!contribute23:24
ubottuTo contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu23:24
OerHekshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shorewall/+bug/157197223:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1571972 in shorewall (Ubuntu) "systemd service not enabled on install" [Undecided,New]23:24
OerHeksfor 16.04 that is ..23:24
OerHeksnice discussion https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=77339223:25
ubottuDebian bug 773392 in shorewall "shoreall won't start on systemd-enabled systems" [Important,Fixed]23:25
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lubberAhoy. In my 14.04 Lubuntu install the kernel -88 seems to be missing almost all drivers, including network. Luckily I could reboot to -86 which runs fine. Can I somehow reconfigure the -88 kernel or so?23:32
lubberMy HD was full during automatic upgrading so I did an apt-get autoremove before the problem occurred by booting to the new kernel for the 1st time, if that helps23:38
k1l_lubber: sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename23:39
cbfmccan anyone help me out getting minitube to work on 14.04?23:40
OerHekscbfmc, unlikely23:40
OerHekscbfmc, old bug ( 12.10 ) still valid  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/minitube/+bug/1061092  no way to play, use an other youtbe app23:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1061092 in minitube (Ubuntu) "minitube does not play anything" [Undecided,Confirmed]23:40
jaguncois it a good practice to backup or configure as a separate partition the /var/cache/apt/archives directory to avoid downloading all the packages i need again?23:41
bpromptcbfmc:     IIRC Smplayer has a youtube plugin, if that helps23:42
bpromptcbfmc:    check the repositories for smplayer and "smtube"23:44
lubberThanks k1l_. It says "Unpacking linux-generic (3.13.0.88.94) over (3.13.0.86.92) ...", but I guess I will not lose the working -86 kernel?23:45
lubberAh grub found the -86 too, so I hope its ok23:46
SamFWhat's the generally agreed upon to be the best "IRC" client for Ubuntu?  I'm using Polari and it's okay but a bit too "bare bones".23:49
SamF*agreed upon to be the "best" IRC23:49
OerHeksjagunco, you could back them up, sure, see apt-clone http://askubuntu.com/a/48663423:49
k1l_there is no best. some use hexchat, some use weechat, some use irssi....23:49
K350SamF: Are you looking for a text.based  client or one wiht a GUI?23:50
SamFBy text based do you mean that it runs in the terminal?23:50
SmashcatHi, I have ubuntu 14.04.4 on a server, but for some reason the pam service doesn't work with dovecot (failing authentication even though details are correct). Anyone know if there's a known issue with it? Is it possible to bypass pam some way?23:50
K350SamF: Yes23:51
* OerHeks wants a cartoon-ish irc client23:51
SmashcatOr, are there any better alternatives to dovecot as an imap server?23:51
hello-zeroeven though i installed openssl 1.02h and libssl-dev 1.0.2h-1+deb.sury.org~trusty+1 when i build nginx and run it it still says openssl 1.01f - anyone have any ideas what could be going on?23:52
jaguncoOerHeks, great answer, thankyou :)23:52
SamFI'll try out a few.23:55
Cursarionirssi <323:55
SamFNow, if I find one I like and get rid of Polari with sudo apt-get purge polari23:56
SamFthat will axe the program and all related files that are not in the home directory.23:56
lubberThanks again k1l_, the -88 kernel works fine now too.23:56
SamFis there any way to find any files it may have created in my home directory?23:57
k1l_SamF: all files that were created during install. not in your home.23:57
SamFI did ls -a ~/23:57
SamFand a lot of stuff printed to the screen.23:57
k1l_SamF: the files in your home are created on first run. so apt cant know what there is.23:57
SamFI know.23:58
SamFBut is there an automated way to find them?23:58
k1l_no23:58
SamFSo if you try a lot of programs how do you keep from accumuluating a bunch of useless config files in your home directory?23:59
k1l_remove that config files afterwards.23:59
k1l_if you dont bother to find them, why bother for them at all?23:59

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