[00:04] <pngl> nacc, Bashing-om : should I be worried that the remote creates 2 devices?
[00:04] <pngl> The OK button is now working, not sure what was going on before.
[00:05] <nacc> pngl: i think that can be normal for dongles, it depends on the hardware, i think
[00:05] <pngl> nacc: ok, thanks :)
[00:23] <encolpe> How to break a systemd cycle ?
[00:27] <minas114> I noticed that a process named "updatedb.mlocate" uses a lot of Disk IO. What is it doing? Is it necessary or can I remove it?
[00:27] <LtL> minas114: do not remove it
[00:27] <encolpe> minas114: It update  a database for the locate command
[00:28] <Guest48342> hola buenas noches
[00:28] <minas114> encolpe, but which database? the one ubuntu uses to search in the dash?
[00:28] <encolpe> As locate is widely use in others programms, don't remove it
[00:28] <LtL> minas114: it doesn't run often and it's worth the i/o
[00:29] <OerHeks> it uses spare i/o time, don't worry
[00:29] <minas114> Okay then
[00:29] <encolpe> minas114: it updates only once a day
[00:34] <Guest48342> olaaaaaaaa
[00:36] <Bashing-om> !english | Guest48342
[00:39] <guest55055> how do i know wether filesystem-based or block-based encryption is better for me?
[00:40] <LtL> guest55055: google that question?
[00:40] <OerHeks> collect all your options and compare
[00:43] <OerHeks> ZFS on Linux doesn't support native encryption yet ..
[00:53] <samthewildone> trying to do a static linking for a program, not working.
[00:54] <samthewildone> I place the linked file in "/usr/bin", returns a file not found.
[00:55] <erebel55> does anyone see an issue with my service file? for some reason it doesn't auto start on boot
[00:55] <erebel55> http://pastebin.com/rtbrFSA8
[00:55] <erebel55> I did a systemctl enable omniwar.service
[00:57] <ikonia> eelstrebor: wgere you not told about this the other day ?
[00:58] <eelstrebor> i don't know why i'm dropping in and out - i'll see if i can find out what's going on - i did change dns services
[00:58] <ikonia> dns ?>?
[00:58] <ikonia> what has that got to do with it
[00:58] <ikonia> you are the guy who started off writing an upstart job right ?
[00:58] <eelstrebor> i don't know - but it's the only change i made today
[00:59] <eelstrebor> in my router
[00:59] <ikonia> dns has nothing to do with it
[00:59] <eelstrebor> it's suppose to be one of those smart dns servers
[00:59] <ikonia> you started off writing upstart right ? then got told to setup a systemd unit file ?
[00:59] <erebel55> I think that was me
[00:59] <eelstrebor> nope
[01:00] <eelstrebor> wasn't me
[01:00] <ikonia> how annoying two guys with similar names and similar problems
[01:00] <erebel55> ikonia, yeah that was me. And I was successful. Except I'm trying to get it to autostart at boot and am having troubles with that
[01:00] <ikonia> thanks erebel55
[01:00] <ikonia> erebel55: right, so have you checked the symlinks have been made correctly ?
[01:01] <erebel55> ikonia, symlinks between what files?
[01:02] <ikonia> erebel55: the unit files
[01:02] <ikonia> thats how enable/disable works
[01:02] <erebel55> ahh okay, I just have one unit file
[01:02] <erebel55> trying to figure out how to check the symblink
[01:03] <eelstrebor> maybe my isp is doing something that's causing me to drop in and out? don't know how to determine that without having 2 ISP's to test with
[01:03] <ikonia> eelstrebor: what is the actual problem you need help with ?
[01:04] <ikonia> (#ubuntu problem)
[01:04] <eelstrebor> ikonia, you're complaining about this and i'm just saying that i don't know what i can do to correct the problem
[01:05] <ikonia> eelstrebor: what is the actual problem you need help with
[01:05] <eelstrebor> solving why i'm dropping in and out
[01:05] <erebel55> ikonia, I don't think the symlink is there http://i.imgur.com/e456clj.png
[01:05] <nacc> eelstrebor: ikonia: i think it's just miscommunication
[01:06] <ikonia> erebel55: ok , so thats the starting thing
[01:06] <nacc> ikonia: thought eelstrebor was erebel55
[01:06] <ikonia> eelstrebor: it looks like your connection is just dropping
[01:06] <ikonia> eelstrebor: could be your end, could be the freenode server you are using
[01:06]  * eelstrebor normally has a stable connection
[01:07] <ikonia> eelstrebor: but you don't at the moment.....so your normal situation doesn't really have much impact
[01:07] <erebel55> ikonia, why wouldn't it be creating it?
[01:07] <hamba-allah> hi
[01:07] <ikonia> erebel55: walk through the system process, see what you've missed
[01:08] <erebel55> the unit file?
[01:08] <erebel55> it's pretty simple
[01:08] <erebel55> http://pastebin.com/rtbrFSA8
[01:09] <hamba-allah> I was a new person please explain how this application works
[01:09] <ikonia> !irc | hamba-allah
[01:10] <ikonia> !guidelines | hamba-allah
[01:10] <ikonia> check out those links hamba-allah
[01:11] <erebel55> ikonia, what is the symlink supposed to attach my .service to? I'm confused
[01:12] <ikonia> erebel55: where is your file actually on your file system
[01:13] <erebel55> ikonia, /etc/systemd/system
[01:13] <hamba-allah> what code it erebel55
[01:14] <erebel55> http://pastebin.com/rtbrFSA8
[01:15] <ikonia> erebel55: so if you look in that directory do you see any other system unit files ?
[01:15] <ikonia> or do you see a load of directories ?
[01:16] <erebel55> ikonia, I see this http://i.imgur.com/sQJAuEH.png
[01:16] <erebel55> so a couple other service files
[01:16] <Sonderblade> is there no rust package in ubuntu?
[01:16] <ikonia> erebel55: there are no other unit files there
[01:16] <ikonia> a load of directories and some simlinks to binaries
[01:17] <erebel55> oh I thought sshd.service and syslog.service were unit files
[01:17] <festerB> ubottu: this is a 404 from my browser  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist , lot of links to that faq are 404 today
[01:17] <ikonia> erebel55: well, you're technically correct in that they are not actual binary files, but they are executed to load the target if you look in them
[01:17] <hamba-allah> Indonesia is there anyone here
[01:17] <ikonia> hamba-allah: have a look at the guidelines URL hamba-allah
[01:17] <ikonia> hamba-allah: this isn't a social channel,
[01:19] <ikonia> erebel55: if you look in those directories you'll see the services are symlinks
[01:19] <erebel55> ikonia, when I first did the systemctl enable I didn't give it the full path to the .service
[01:19] <hamba-allah> oh this brarti private channel
[01:19] <erebel55> I wonder if that is it
[01:19] <erebel55> http://i.imgur.com/ooAway3.png
[01:19] <ikonia> erebel55: think of it as the old init system but not sequential
[01:19] <ikonia> erebel55: that looks better
[01:19] <ikonia> syymlinks getting created
[01:19] <erebel55> my symlink still didn't show when I did the ls grep tho. I might be doing that wrong
[01:20] <erebel55> but it said it created it
[01:20] <hamba-allah> codes and link it's actually what I do not understand
[01:20] <xwct> hey so i have a headless server with 14.04 on it and i recently installed tmux-next and it gives me protocol version mismatch client 7 server 8, when i search everyone else has the other way around
[01:20] <ikonia> erebel55: where are you looking for the symlink
[01:20] <erebel55> ls -la | grep "\->"
[01:20] <ikonia> erebel55: no - where are you looking for the symlink
[01:20] <ikonia> what is the directory you are looking for the symlink in
[01:21] <hamba-allah> see you my friend off i'm must go
[01:21] <erebel55> ikonia, /etc/systemd/system
[01:21] <ikonia> erebel55: why would it be there ??? thats where you file is
[01:21] <erebel55> oh
[01:21] <ikonia> erebel55: look at the actual output it tells you where it's created the symlink
[01:21] <ikonia> it's in the image you've pasted !
[01:21] <ikonia> READ the text
[01:21] <erebel55> duh
[01:21] <erebel55> sorry
[01:21] <erebel55> i'm dense
[01:21] <ikonia> you have to understand what you are doing - read up about systemd
[01:22] <ikonia> you can't just type things
[01:22] <ikonia> not trying to be harsh here but systemd is your core controller for your whole box, you don't mess around with it
[01:22] <erebel55> give me a windows >_<
[01:22] <ikonia> erebel55: use windows if you're more comfrotable with it
[01:22] <erebel55> i'm just kidding. there is just so much to learn
[01:23] <erebel55> okay yeah the symlink is there when I look in the proper directory
[01:23] <erebel55> so time to reboot and see if it works
[01:23] <erebel55> :)
[01:23] <ikonia> or just start it
[01:23] <ikonia> eg: systemctl start $service
[01:23] <erebel55> well starting and stopping was already working
[01:23] <erebel55> it just didn't start with boot
[01:24] <ikonia> ok
[01:25] <erebel55> and it works :D
[01:25] <erebel55> all because I forgot the path. Man I always mess something up like that
[01:25] <ikonia> east to do
[01:26] <ikonia> easy
[01:26] <erebel55> thank you for your help :)
[01:26] <ikonia> you got there on your own, so thank yourselfr
[01:26] <erebel55> I am linux gawd
[01:29] <xwct> anyone?
[01:35] <cosmicfires> eclipse isn't working with git on 16.04
[01:39] <ubuntu-mate> hi
[01:40] <Cyl_> Hi, I have a simple question, what would be the linux image for Ubuntu 14.04? I'm trying to get some hardware that worked previously to work, and I need the image # so I can install it and not have to recompile.
[01:41] <owlr> hey
[01:41] <andreas_waffles> Hello! Trying to install Ubuntu 16.04, but when I boot the USB I get a GNU GRUB command line screen instead saying "Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported"
[01:41] <owlr> why mounting a partition with -o rw always modified it? checksum is modified everytime.. while doing the same with -o ro does not affect the partition
[01:41] <andreas_waffles> any ideas?
[01:43] <ubuntu-mate> i'm need reinstall the grub , i 'm on livecd now , but i have a problem , my sda1=boot, sda2=swap, sda3=root. How i mount and install grub if my root and boot directories ar diferent path?????
[01:43] <akik> Cyl_: you can download the ubuntu 14.04 iso image. what problem do you have?
[01:43] <Cyl_> I mean the generic Linux image, not the ISO.
[01:44] <Cyl_> akik: A trackpad that isn't being picked up by Ubuntu but is working fine with Windows
[01:44] <akik> Cyl_: the kernel?
[01:44] <ubuntu-mate> anyone know how helpme
[01:44] <Cyl_> Yes.
[01:44] <Cyl_> I need the kernel version.
[01:44] <akik> Cyl_: the kernel is inside of the iso. you can probably find it after mounting, not sure
[01:45] <Cyl_> I can download it off synaptic, I just need to know which one
[01:45] <akik> ubuntu-mate: you can run grub-install after mounting your root file system and chrooting into it
[01:46] <akik> ubuntu-mate: # for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[01:46] <ubuntu-mate> yes akik but my /boot and root / are diferent paths , how do to mounting it
[01:46] <akik> ubuntu-mate: that expects your root file system to be mounted under /mnt
[01:47] <akik> ubuntu-mate: you can mount your /boot so that it's under /mnt/boot
[01:47] <ubuntu-mate> and my /boot (sda1)
[01:47] <OerHeks> Cyl_, linux-image-generic should install the version that matches your current kernel
[01:47] <akik> ubuntu-mate: then use "chroot /mnt /bin/bash"
[01:47] <ubuntu-mate> i sure ,thanks
[01:47] <ubuntu-mate> it's clear and obvious now
[01:48] <ubuntu-mate> thanks for help akik
[01:48] <ubuntu-mate> i'll try
[01:48] <Cyl_> 0erHeks: I need the version that works with 14.04, not with 16.04, because my trackpad works with 14.04 but it doesn't with 16.04, and it works in Windows.
[01:49] <Cyl_> I don't want to recompile the kernel, the Kernel/Compile help site says that I can get the image corresponding to that version and not have to recompile.
[01:49] <OerHeks> Cyl so? install it on your 14.04 .. did i mention other version ?
[01:49] <Cyl_> I'm not sure what you mean
[01:52] <OerHeks> linux-image-generic is the metapackage to install that kernel.
[01:52] <Erige> I have a weird issue, My wifi connects to saved networks but it doesnt show any new networks of even the one im connected on the applet
[01:53] <Cyl_> So you mean if I install the generic image it'll work? I thought it would be the one specific to Ubuntu 14.04 that I would have to install
[01:54] <OerHeks> i hope you want to install it on 14.04 ..
[01:55] <Cyl_> I don't.
[01:55] <OerHeks> if not, that would be silly
[01:55] <Cyl_> Well, I'm trying to get hardware that was supported by 14.04 to work.
[01:55] <Cyl_> That no longer is detected in 16.04
[01:56] <OerHeks> 14.04.4 is still supported.
[01:56] <Cyl_> Well my trackpad isn't working.
[01:56] <ubuntu-mate> i did : sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda3 /mnt && sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot, then sudo chroot /mnt && sudo grub-install /dev/sda ,but i got error.what do i would do?
[01:56] <akik> ubuntu-mate: use the for loop to mount the special directories under /mnt
[01:57] <Cyl_> The actual problem, then is my trackpad not working. It's not being detected by lsusb or lspci, it's connected properly, and working under Windows.
[01:59] <akik> ubuntu-mate: the for loop needs to be run before chroot
[02:00] <Cyl_> The system I am using is Acer Aspire ES1-512 C88M
[02:01] <akik> Cyl_: it's best that you install 14.04 on your system
[02:02] <Cyl_> I really don't want to, as it would be a downgrade, I'd rather use the image from 14.04 and be able to have it work that way, because I heard you can make it work if you recompile the kernel.
[02:03] <akik> Cyl_: well if you want to try it, you could try installing the old kernel to 16.04. no guarantees though
[02:04] <akik> Cyl_: it's not supported on this channel
[02:05] <Cyl_> akik: Not supported, meaning you wouldn't recommend it right?
[02:05] <hamba-allah> yes
[02:05] <akik> Cyl_: right
[02:06] <Cyl_> Is there a reason why? And if not could you make my trackpad work on 16.04, cause it has a lot of good things 14.04 doesn't..
[02:08] <akik> Cyl_: try it and then come to give a report?
[02:09] <Cyl_> Okay.
[02:09] <Erige> I have a weird issue, My wifi connects to saved networks but it doesnt show any new networks of even the one im connected on the applet
[02:09] <OS-22765> #
[02:16] <ac2> hey wanted to know if anyone has had a chance to test some of the features in "bash on ubuntu on windows" ?
[02:17] <Bashing-om> !ubuwin | ac2
[02:18] <Bashing-om> ac2: Also: discussion on the forum : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2318965&page=6 .
[02:18] <irn4l> hi guys
[02:18] <shabang_knight> kkkkkkk.... VW stuff
[02:18] <irn4l> so i was talking with debian folks
[02:18] <shabang_knight> vm
[02:18] <irn4l> and you guys must meet and talk
[02:19] <OerHeks> irn4l, yeah, no, this is support only. try #ubuntu-discuss
[02:20] <irn4l> lol
[02:20] <irn4l> i dont interfere with help beeing provided to people
[02:20] <irn4l> if that happens i stop talk
[02:20] <irn4l> anyway
[02:20] <irn4l> you guys must build a single unique linux distro
[02:21] <irn4l> that payes users
[02:21] <OerHeks> ubuntu does have good connections with Debian .. and  more
[02:21] <Tex_Nick> ac2: no as i havent used win in years, however there have been unix utility win ports for years in a package known as unixutils
[02:21] <irn4l> good conection? so why debian and ubuntu is not only one?
[02:22] <OerHeks> take that to discuss please.
[02:22] <irn4l> i say all distros, forks and division is just a self inflicted war to try an failed attemped to incentivate people to make a better linux
[02:23] <irn4l> more divisions
[02:23] <irn4l> why is this people around here a potential buyer that you dont want to lose?
[02:24] <irn4l> i want to suggest and ubuntu channel for every specific area that ubuntu supports
[02:25] <irn4l> is there any ubuntu-canonical?
[02:25] <dax> no
[02:25] <OerHeks> knock yourself out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[02:26] <irn4l> lol
[02:26] <irn4l> wtf dude
[02:26] <irn4l> omg
[02:26] <irn4l> ubuntu
[02:26] <irn4l> do you want us to fall?
[02:26] <irn4l> only togehter we are strong dude
[02:26] <dax> irn4l: Support discussion only in here. Thanks.
[02:27] <irn4l> i should be ubuntu CEO
[02:27] <irn4l> or something
[02:27] <irn4l> leader
[02:27] <irn4l> guru
[02:27] <irn4l> captaian
[02:31] <AndChat|526161> What are some good ide's for java in Ubuntu?
[02:32] <dax> eclipse
[02:32] <AndChat|526161> Have used eclipse though didn't like it much
[02:32] <jamesd> netbeans?
[02:32] <AndChat|526161> I see
[02:32] <dax> the same ones that are everywhere else
[02:32] <AndChat|526161> Netbeans is nice?
[02:33] <jamesd> i don't code java, but netbeans does what i need pretty well.
[02:33] <AndChat|526161> Eclipse use to consume 70% of CPU usage
[02:33] <AndChat|526161>  At least mine
[02:34] <AndChat|526161> I see jamesd
[02:44] <diego__> hola
[02:45] <pietro> what is better on ubuntu 15 if you compare it to 14?
[02:51] <Cyl22> Hi I need help with my trackpad, it works in windows but it can't be detected by lsusb or lspci
[02:51] <Cyl22> On linux
[02:51] <akik> Cyl22: so... what happened with your kernel test?
[02:52] <Cyl22> Ehm, couldn't find the right one?
[02:52] <Cyl22> For 3.19, which is the Kernel Version 14.04 has
[02:53] <akik> !info linux-image trusty
[02:53] <akik> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[02:54] <akik> Cyl22: maybe try that version? you would be better off installing 14.04
[02:55] <Cyl22> No, because I don't want to lose the newer features that are in 16.04
[02:55] <Cyl22> :/
[02:55] <akik> Cyl22: i think you're on your own then
[02:56] <Cyl22> Why didn't they retain drivers from the older versions? It's unfair.
[02:56] <akik> Cyl22: try 14.04 live dvd to see if it works there
[02:56] <OerHeks> !bug
[02:57] <OerHeks> ubuntu-bug elantech or something like that
[02:57] <akik> Cyl22: i don't think it has been intentionally disabled
[02:57] <akik> Cyl22: i'm using a scsi card from 1998 and it still works
[02:58] <Cyl22> Wouldn't the bug be with the module, not elantech?
[03:02] <glass> wife asked me to copy videos from her phone to desktop, but when i play them in vlc the video scenes dont play after the first 3 secs or so but the sounds plays whole way through any ideas (ubuntu-mate 16.04)
[03:07] <caterfxo> the videos play on her phone?
[03:08] <glass> yes
[03:09] <glass> they are mp4 format i am guessing i need a new codec maybe?
[03:09] <caterfxo> maybe. is there some other format you can play in  ubuntu for sure?
[03:10] <glass> yes everything else works i even run a plex server on it
[03:10] <caterfxo> cool.
[03:10] <glass> my google fu just found that i may not have installed restriced extras
[03:11] <caterfxo> ah!
[03:11] <glass> and or vlc plugin pulse
[03:11] <caterfxo> culpritzio!
[03:12] <glass> why are these restriced? i think thats why i did not install them before
[03:12] <caterfxo> it's something to do with licensing.
[03:12] <glass> right on.
[03:13] <caterfxo> ...in the restricted pack, some of the codecs are illegal in some countries?
[03:14] <glass> dang i had forgotten about when you install stuff and the CLI turns to a screen with the <OK> , when i did my first ever install of linux (ubuntu 14.10) that screen popped up and i could not for the life of me
[03:14] <caterfxo> there's an answer on avvo.com
[03:14] <glass> figure out how to select the <ok> had to reinstall windows 7 update it then get on google to find out i had to hit tab
[03:15] <caterfxo> lol!
[03:15] <glass> i feel like i cant be the only one that has done that lol
[03:15] <OerHeks> Legal Notice Patent and copyright laws operate differently depending on which country you are in. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:15] <caterfxo> nah, i remember being plenty confised by the installer the 1st time
[03:16] <caterfxo> if you can manage to kill off gnome once or twice...
[03:17] <glass> forsure caterfxo i ran bleachbit a few days after i did that first install and was like nah theres no way i need all this junk i dont know about
[03:17] <glass> thats when i learned you kinda need a DE if your new to linux
[03:18] <caterfxo> yup
[03:19] <caterfxo> i didn't know what a rootkit was until rkhunter found one. commence panic, of course
[03:21] <caterfxo> r.e.m. calleth.  'night!
[03:32] <piesha> When I open the software center nothing loads. I installed 'software-center' with apt and that works fine. Would anyone be able to help me?
[03:36] <piesha> I updated repos and everything, I am not sure what else to do. But if nobody can help, I am okay with my work around :P
[03:40] <zotherstupidguy> i am using "setxkbmap -layout us -option ctrl:nocaps" to turn capslock into extra ctrl; but this functionality doesnot presist after restarts, any ideas how to fix it?
[03:44] <akik> zotherstupidguy: have you tried to add it as a new startup task?
[03:48] <jair> has anyone found the solution for this Google issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/760796/how-to-fix-apt-signature-by-key-uses-weak-digest-algorithm-sha1
[03:48] <jair> I am still trying to find a solution for it
[03:48] <jair> it is really annoying because I don't understand if is a security issue, or just cosmetic
[03:49] <akik> jair: it's a problem at google. not much you can do (and it's just a warning)
[03:54] <piesha> When I open the software center nothing loads. I installed 'software-center' with apt and that works fine. Would anyone be able to help me?
[03:55] <vbotka> jair, I switched from chrome to chromium as suggested in the askubuntu link "you may try and install the mostly identical chromium-browser. Since it comes from the Canonical repos, it shouldn't have this issue'you may try and install the mostly identical chromium-browser. Since it comes from the Canonical repos, it shouldn't have this issue
[03:55] <staeksauce> does Netflix / Amazon Prime work with Chromium?
[03:59] <vbotka> jair, you might want to review "The Difference between Google Chrome and Chromium on Linux"
[04:00] <vbotka> https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/chromium_browser_vs_google_chrome.md
[04:02] <vbotka> staeksauce, all google apps are working for me in chromium, but I have no experience with  Netflix / Amazon Prime
[04:02] <Cyl22> Hi, I'm having trouble reporting a bug.
[04:03] <Cyl22> The Debugging Page says to include extra info that I can't include in the ubuntu-bug command
[04:06] <Guest48342> holaaaaaaaaaa
[04:06] <shiz_> my kernel headers got updated, now my wireless doesnt work. Anyone know how I take the module out so I can re-add it?
[04:06] <killtheliterate> Can anyone suggest an Ubuntu alternative to Alfred? Also, an alternative to Dash documentation browser?
[04:07] <shiz_> also, I added the module in with dkms, so how come it didnt get rebuilt automatically?
[04:07] <jair> hmm
[04:08] <jair> I am not in agreement with installing another software to fix this issue in Google chrome
[04:08] <jair> so I will hold until Google fix their repo
[04:08] <jair> will send them another bug report as I am sure many linux users have done
[04:09] <jair> but Thank you for your suggestions
[04:09] <jair> AFK
[04:09] <staeksauce> it's probably just something that turns your microphone on and listens in, no big deal
[04:09] <staeksauce> :p
[04:09] <shiz_> lol
[04:09] <shiz_> that's what I thought as soon as I saw 'chrome'
[04:10] <staeksauce> i wish there was some other way to watch Netflix without it
[04:10] <shiz_> does Opera not work, or midori?
[04:11] <staeksauce> I don't believe so
[04:11] <staeksauce> Opera is closed source
[04:11] <staeksauce> at least part of it
[04:11] <Chenwei> root@chenwei-PC:/home/chenwei# sudo ./setup           sudo：./setup: command not found
[04:11] <Chenwei> why
[04:11] <Chenwei> when i try to install a setup file
[04:12] <shiz_> Opera is based on chrome though. Im using the developer version. I dont watch netflix, but its worth googling 'opera netflix'
[04:14] <Chenwei> chenwei@chenwei-PC:~$ su root
[04:14] <Chenwei> root@chenwei-PC:/home/chenwei# cd yz
[04:14] <Chenwei> root@chenwei-PC:/home/chenwei/yz# sudo ./setup
[04:14] <Chenwei> sudo: unable to execute ./setup: No such file or directory
[04:15] <Cyl22> Could someone help me with filing a bug please?
[04:15] <shiz_> so, if I try to rebuild my wireless driver, it says its already in dkms tree, but when I rmmod, it says the module doesnt exist
[04:16] <akik> Chenwei: try "sudo /home/chenwei/yz/setup" from your normal account
[04:16] <Cyl22> akik: It asked me to do dmesg > ~/dmesg but it rendered no response
[04:17] <Cyl22> Do I just c/p the response from dmesg then?
[04:17] <akik> Cyl22: dmesg outputs the kernel log buffer. if it's empty, something's broken
[04:17] <shiz_> cant he chmod -x, and just double click it?
[04:17] <Chenwei> akik, ah i will try
[04:18] <akik> the thing with su is you always want su -
[04:18] <akik> in this case su - root
[04:18] <Cyl22> akik: When I enter dmesg, it works, when I enter dmesg > ~/dmesg it doesn't do anything. Does that export that somewhere that I don't know of?
[04:18] <akik> Cyl22: ~/dmesg = $HOME/dmesg
[04:19] <Cyl22> ohhhh
[04:19] <akik> Cyl22: found it?
[04:19] <shiz_> ~ is your home folder
[04:19] <Cyl22> Yeah
[04:19] <Cyl22> Thanks
[04:20] <Smn_> guys, I have a problem. I installed eclipse but i can't run it, I get a screen with some errors this is what the screen says http://paste.ubuntu.com/17198065/
[04:21] <shiz_> if I have a module in dkms tree, can I just rebuild it somehow, or does it have to be removed and re-added?
[04:21] <Cyl22> akik: One more question, how would I attach a "/var/log/Xorg.0.log." ?
[04:21] <akik> Cyl22: it's just a file in your file system
[04:22] <Cyl22> so I just upload the file?
[04:22] <Cyl22> right?
[04:22] <akik> Cyl22: yes
[04:23] <staeksauce> anyone else get wobbly, jittery scrolling in Firefox?
[04:24] <Cyl22> akik: How do I attach multiple files? It will only let me attach one for some reason :/
[04:24] <akik> Cyl22: which bug reporting system is this? one option could be creating a tar file
[04:25] <Cyl22> the ubuntu-bug
[04:25] <Cyl22> i'll make one then.
[04:26] <shiz_> also, how do I access grub bootloader configuration/settings?
[04:27] <akik> shiz_: /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d
[04:27] <shiz_> I got this message after autoremove :Removing symbolic link vmlinuz.old
[04:27] <shiz_>  you may need to re-run your boot loader[grub]
[04:27] <akik> shiz_: run "sudo update-grub" after editing /etc/default/grub
[04:28] <shiz_> thanks
[04:37] <shiz_> in dkms, whats the difference between remove and uninstall?
[04:47] <purplesky> Ubuntu is really pulling away hard these days.
[04:47] <purplesky> I remember when Linux Mint was considered its equal, and everything else was way behind.
[04:49] <akis> hi all. update-notifier doesn;'t work under xubuntu 16.04 (clean installation) althouthg it is enabled at 'application autostart'. I read some similar reports but no solution. Any idea or help?
[04:57] <JackJackson> Hey, anyone else have really weird looking screen after logging in and when shuting down the PC? I am using the Nvidia drivers.
[04:57] <Wug> akis: I believe there's an xubuntu channel, have you asked there? also, what version of update-notifier
[04:58] <Wug> (unfortunately I don't have a 16.04 desktop handy, so unless the versions are very similar im probably of no use)
[04:58] <piesha> When I open the software center nothing loads. I installed 'software-center' with apt and that works fine. Would anyone be able to help me?
[04:58] <piesha> Already updated the repositories etc
[04:58] <Wug> piesha: what version of software center, and what version of ubuntu
[04:59] <Wug> do you know how to check?
[04:59] <Wug> (also, in my memory, the software center's always been kinda slow to load)
[04:59] <Wug> maybe it's just still loading? how long did you leave it
[05:00] <Wug> also I don't have ubuntu with a gui handy, only ubuntu server 16.04
[05:00] <Wug> so chances are I will be of limited usefulness :/
[05:01] <piesha> No I don't know how to check :/. I appear to have two different front ends for the software center. I installed one, apt-get install software-center and when I launch it from the command line it pulls up the same shopping bag icon "Ubuntu Software" from the left side of Unity. But if I just click there, nothing seems to load besides the front page
[05:02] <piesha> To clarify, everything works fine when I launch software-center from the terminal
[05:02] <akis> Wug: i know there is a xubuntu channel, but this channel is more active and many users log both. update-notifier 3.168 (xenial).
[05:02] <piesha> though the front page is different than the one I see when I use the GUI
[05:03] <piesha> Thanks Wug :-)
[05:04] <olf-folks> piesha: is it a root (#) terminal or normal user ($) terminal ?
[05:04] <piesha> normal user terminal
[05:06] <olf-folks> piesha: this is all i found http://askubuntu.com/questions/306281/cant-open-ubuntu-software-center-except-from-the-terminal
[05:07] <olf-folks> piesha: or this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2008815
[05:09] <Wug> piesha: probably the graphical launcher is doing the wrong thing. perhaps remove it from the launcher, run software center from the terminal, and repin it
[05:09] <Wug> if that doesn't work, there's an application shortcut thing somewhere that I'm sure you can manually edit to fix it, but it will be kind of a pain
[05:10] <irath> hi
[05:10] <olf-folks> hi
[05:10] <irath> im trying to get node working on my linux server. it says it needs python. it comes with python3. should i alias python3 to python or download an older version of python?
[05:10] <irath> im using ubuntu 16.04
[05:11] <Wug> irath: in general python programs are not backwards compatible, so install the most recent version of python 2
[05:12] <irath> Wug: so you recommend i download python 2.7.11?
[05:12] <irath> what's the recommended way of downloading and installing python? im extremely new to linux/ubuntu
[05:12] <olf-folks> apt
[05:13] <Wug> you can install it from the command line with `sudo apt-get install python2.7`
[05:13] <irath> perfect thanks!
[05:13] <Wug> (I think that's the right package name)
[05:13] <irath> looks like it automatically went for 2.7.11
[05:14] <Wug> useful things to know: list all of the installed software from the command line with `dpkg --list | grep '^ii'`
[05:14] <irath> it still says " Can't find Python executable "python", you can set the PYTHON env variable."
[05:14] <irath> Wug: thanks ill write that down
[05:15] <Wug> search the list of software in the repositories available for installation with `apt-cache search [search terms]`
[05:15] <Wug> I think it wants a regular expression, not entirely sure, and it searches the package description in addition to just the name
[05:16] <Wug> often there are a lot of results, in which case grep is probably your friend
[05:16] <irath> well i mean i installed python with hte last command
[05:16] <Wug> ok, not being able to find python
[05:16] <irath> maybe its like windows where you need to set the path variable or something? anything like that in linux?
[05:17] <Wug> it should be installed to the system path by default
[05:17] <Wug> (that's the usual practice on linux)
[05:18] <irath> hmmmm well i did `sudo apt-get install python2.7` but it still says Can't find Python executable "python"
[05:18] <Wug> at least, for things you install via the package manager. For things you build yourself, they must usually be manually moved there (though there is often a build script to do it, typically `make install`)
[05:18] <Wug> yeah I'm thinking
[05:18] <Wug> does /usr/bin/python exist?
[05:18] <Flannel> irath: Just for sanity, /usr/bin/python2.7 exists, right?
[05:18] <Wug> you did say yes to the installer if it asked you questions right
[05:18] <irath> yes that directory exists
[05:19] <Wug> they should both be files, not directories
[05:19] <irath> o uhm..
[05:19] <Wug> did you make a directory there?
[05:19] <irath> it's green in putty
[05:19] <irath> lol
[05:19] <irath> let's see..
[05:19] <Wug> that might just mean executable
[05:19] <Flannel> irath: ls -l /usr/bin/python*
[05:19] <Tadpole_Jackson> how do i manually add a dns server in ubuntu server 16 from the console? I can't edit resolv.conf because it warns that the file is auto generated and my changes will be lost
[05:20] <Tadpole_Jackson> so what is the correct method?
[05:20] <irath> yeah i did the ls just not sure if it's a file or directory lol
[05:20] <Bashing-om> irath: That should be a symlink " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /usr/bin/python >> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Dec 21  2013 /usr/bin/python -> python2.7 " .
[05:20] <Flannel> So, python is correctly linked to python 2.7, that looks good.
[05:20] <\9> irath: using --color or --classify helps with that
[05:21] <\9> (I have ls aliased to use both)
[05:21] <Wug> Tadpole_Jackson: it should go in /etc/network/interfaces, the syntax of the option is `dns-nameservers [primary] [secondary]`
[05:21] <irath> --classify puts an astericks next to it
[05:21] <\9> irath: then it's an executable
[05:21] <irath> ok
[05:21] <Flannel> irath: If you just type "python" at the prompt, you'll go into the python shell, what version does it spit out?
[05:21] <irath> then yes i have a python2.7 executable
[05:21] <Wug> irath: can you run it directly?
[05:22] <Wug> try /usr/bin/python (full path) from terminal
[05:22] <irath> if i type "python" and hit enter it says  The program 'python' can be found in the following packages:  * python-minimal  * python3 Try: apt install <selected package>
[05:22] <irath> i installed python2.7 though.. not sure why it's not showing up
[05:22] <Wug> irath: `echo $PATH`
[05:22] <Wug> tell us what it says
[05:22] <irath>  /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin
[05:22] <Wug> /usr/bin is there...
[05:23] <\9> his terminal would be pretty broken if it wasn't there
[05:23] <Flannel> Wug: and typing `/usr/bin/python` gets you into the python shell successfully?
[05:23] <BeerLover> give me operator status :)
[05:23] <Wug> Flannel: -> irath
[05:23] <irath>  -bash: /usr/bin/python: No such file or directory
[05:23] <Wug> well that's just patently wrong, isn't it
[05:23] <\9> I guess the symlink is missing then
[05:23] <Tadpole_Jackson> Wug, will the changes take effect immediately?
[05:24] <Wug> Tadpole_Jackson: probably not, you'll need to restart networking
[05:24] <Flannel> irath: what does ls -l /usr/bin/python* give you?  (or at least, the line about python2.7)
[05:24] <Tadpole_Jackson> secondly; how do i disable dhcp entirely?
[05:24] <Wug> sudo ifdown [interface] and sudo ifup [interface] should do it
[05:24] <irath> it's kinda long
[05:24] <jamesd> the problem is there are 2 competing python versions,  2 and 3...  you need to create your own symlink to the version you want to default too..
[05:24] <Flannel> !paste | irath
[05:24] <Wug> Tadpole_Jackson: google for "etc network interfaces static ip example"
[05:24] <irath> ill just paste without the -a
[05:24] <irath> "/usr/bin/python2.7  /usr/bin/python3.5   /usr/bin/python3-jsondiff   /usr/bin/python3-jsonpointer /usr/bin/python3    /usr/bin/python3.5m  /usr/bin/python3-jsonpatch  /usr/bin/python3m"
[05:24] <irath> or do you need the -a
[05:25] <Tadpole_Jackson> Wug, i can set a static ip
[05:25] <Wug> Tadpole_Jackson: doing so disables dhcp
[05:25] <irath> er
[05:25] <Tadpole_Jackson> but dhcp overrides it every 24 hours
[05:25] <irath> the -l
[05:25] <Wug> umm.
[05:25] <Flannel> irath: that's sufficient.
[05:25] <Wug> what version of ubuntu is that
[05:25] <Tadpole_Jackson> rather, after i set the manual IP
[05:25] <irath> me? 16.04
[05:25] <Tadpole_Jackson> once the original lease for dhcp expires
[05:25] <jamesd> then disable dhcp in your network config
[05:25] <Tadpole_Jackson> it refreshes
[05:25] <Tadpole_Jackson> jamesd, funny, that's what I just asked how to do
[05:26] <Wug> Tadpole_Jackson: do you have any dhclients running
[05:26] <\9> irath: it looks like your /usr/bin/python is missing then
[05:26] <Wug> (process: dhclient)
[05:26] <jamesd> Tadpole_Jackson: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[05:27] <irath> \9: yeah i have a ton of pythons.. like python2.7, python3.5, etc. but no regular python. do i need one of those aliases or symlinks or soemthing?
[05:27] <piesha> Wug: thanks, I did that. Just weird, normally virtual machines don't have weird problems :D
[05:27] <Tadpole_Jackson> there's dhclient running as root
[05:27] <irath> just so that "python" is mapped to something?
[05:27] <piesha> Ubuntu won't even install on my laptop natively.
[05:27] <jamesd> irath: which one do you want to run  python 2 or 3?
[05:27] <\9> irath: python is a symlink to one of the other pythons yeah
[05:27] <\9> for me it links to 2.7
[05:27] <irath> this program im using needs 2.7.11
[05:27] <jamesd> Tadpole_Jackson: follow that link it will show you how configure static networking
[05:27] <irath> i think i just need a way of making "python" run python2.7.11
[05:27] <irath> how would i do that?
[05:28] <Tadpole_Jackson> jamesd, I know how to configure static networking. I don't know how to disable dhcp
[05:28] <Wug> Tadpole_Jackson: kill the dhclient, it's what's renewing your dhcp lease
[05:28] <\9> irath: sudo ln -s python2.7 /usr/bin/python
[05:28] <\9> that should install the symlink
[05:28] <irath> ok let's see
[05:28] <Wug> it might be configured to launch as a service, so if it is, you would need to disable that as well
[05:28] <jamesd> Tadpole_Jackson: if you have it setup as static, it won't reconfigure it...
[05:28] <Tadpole_Jackson> jamesd, and yet that's exactly what's happening.
[05:28] <Tadpole_Jackson> so it works about as well as php7...
[05:28] <irath> \9: wait.. before i run it.. should usr/bin/python exist?
[05:28] <irath> because i dont have that
[05:28] <\9> irath: no, this will create it
[05:29] <irath> ok
[05:29] <irath> let's try
[05:29] <Wug> Tadpole_Jackson: old versions of ubuntu had a configuration issue that would typically cause dhclients to persist after you manually configured a static ip address if you didn't reboot the box
[05:29] <Wug> im not sure if they fixed it, my box has too much uptime for me to bother restarting it
[05:29] <Tadpole_Jackson> the box has been rebooted
[05:29] <Tadpole_Jackson> and this is 16
[05:29] <Wug> just uninstall dhclient
[05:29] <Wug> problem solved
[05:29] <jamesd> Tadpole_Jackson: pastebin your  /etc/network/interaces file
[05:29] <irath> hey i think it worked
[05:29] <irath> got more errors but they're unrelated to this problem.
[05:29] <irath> thanks
[05:30] <\9> no problem
[05:30] <Wug> irath: weird that it didnt make the symlink for you by default
[05:30] <irath> yeah idk i dont know anything about linux it's just a fresh install of ubuntu 16.04
[05:30] <Tadpole_Jackson> jamesd, http://pastebin.com/KVBwyjYy
[05:30] <Flannel> Well, it did.  Because your previous ls showed it.  But it mustve been deleted somewhere in the middle of this conversation.
[05:30] <irath> digital ocean made it for me
[05:31] <jamesd> Wug: it saw both python 2 and 3 installed it didn't know which he wanted to be default
[05:31] <Wug> i guess maybe? but normally update-alternatives picks that (maybe its just broken on my box because it doesn't find anything python related)
[05:33] <Wug> Tadpole_Jackson: its hard to say because i fixed that issue like 3 years ago on an older version of ubuntu, but im pretty sure i just removed dhclient
[05:34] <Tadpole_Jackson> Wug, i killed the process, we shall see how this goes
[05:34] <tumblr> wow
[05:34] <jamesd> Tadpole_Jackson: its weird i have the same type of network config you do, but it works fine with just that settings.
[05:34] <Tadpole_Jackson> ideally i won't have to keep consoling in through vsphere to make ssh work again ;)
[05:34] <tumblr> you guys allow bots selling card info in here?
[05:34] <Wug> Tadpole_Jackson: I recommend you check the list of `service --status-all` to see if there's something there for it
[05:34] <tumblr> I'm pretty fucking triggered right now
[05:35] <jamesd> and i have dhcp-client still installed
[05:35] <Wug> Tadpole_Jackson: if there is, chances are it will restart on a reboot unless disabled
[05:35] <Wug> also, check in /etc/init.d
[05:35] <Tadpole_Jackson> Wug, it's sitting on an ESXi host with a battery strapped to it
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[05:35] <Tadpole_Jackson> it's probably not going to go down for a long while
[05:35] <tumblr> no one wants to address that?
[05:36] <Tadpole_Jackson> tumblr, that's not a job for #ubuntu
[05:36] <Tadpole_Jackson> report it to network operators
[05:36] <tumblr> Tadpole_Jackson: just like every job, right?
[05:36] <Tadpole_Jackson> It's network administration, not channel administration
[05:36] <Tadpole_Jackson> So yeah.
[05:36] <tumblr> Tadpole_Jackson: nah I was talking about your shit taste in distro
[05:36] <tumblr> get fucked fam
[05:37] <Tadpole_Jackson> tumblr, cent 7?
[05:37] <Tadpole_Jackson> slackware?
[05:37] <tumblr> Tadpole_Jackson: gentoo or kill yourself
[05:37] <Tadpole_Jackson> RHEL?
[05:37] <tumblr> I grew up on slack 2.2.1
[05:37] <Tadpole_Jackson> Nah man, I spend my time doing work, not playing with toys~
[05:37] <tumblr> Tadpole_Jackson: thats why your wife is leaving you
[05:37] <tumblr> RIP
[05:37] <Tadpole_Jackson> :(
[05:37] <jamesd> i started with 2.3 and then moved to slackware 95...
[05:37] <Wug> I converted an ubuntu into a debian by accident once
[05:38] <Tadpole_Jackson> you know what's fun?
[05:38] <netsin> your mom?
[05:38] <Wug> tl;dr it's all the same thing with different packages installed
[05:38] <tumblr> Wug: Tadpole_Jackson created ubuntu to destroy families
[05:38] <Tadpole_Jackson> trying to resolve a failed dependency on a hacky out of date custom one-off version of debian
[05:38] <Tadpole_Jackson> running on embedded hardware
[05:38] <Tadpole_Jackson> ubuntu is an african word for "I don't want to mess with centos"
[05:38] <tumblr> Tadpole_Jackson: fuck outta here fcsPS
[05:38] <netsin> sounds like you need some ganja and RocketLeaue in your life
[05:38] <tumblr> fscOS*
[05:39] <Wug> im pretty sure there's a --fuck-you-i-know-what-im-doing-install-just-this-package-without-dependency-checking switch somewhere
[05:39] <Wug> probably on dpkg
[05:40] <Tadpole_Jackson> well in this case the dep was required
[05:40] <Wug> so do one then the other
[05:40] <Tadpole_Jackson> anyway, much hacky later, i finally got gcc installed on the box
[05:40] <tumblr> Wug: prettu sure Tadpole_Jackson is the cancer that killed FOSS
[05:40] <Tadpole_Jackson> from gcc, all things become possible.
[05:40] <tumblr> Tadpole_Jackson: your wife left, why are you even breathing
[05:41] <Wug> tumblr: I'm pretty sure you know just as well as we all do that unless that alleged bot talks we have no insight into what it is or does because freenode's whoising is retarded
[05:41] <Wug> and also that it's pretty easy to fake 1 line of logs
[05:41] <tumblr> Wug: but its fun to play. you can't tell me you wouldn't pay an underage thai lady boy to fuck his boipucci
[05:42] <Wug> I don't necessarily doubt that it's garbage that should be killed but freenode's staff have made it their own problem by completely disabling the ability of users to find anything out by themselves
[05:42] <tumblr> Wug: its all fun and games til someone catches on, right?
[05:42] <Wug> so go bug them about it if it triggers you so hard
[05:43] <Tadpole_Jackson> Wug, it hit me too
[05:43] <Tadpole_Jackson> I just don't care
[05:43] <tumblr> Tadpole_Jackson: kind of like those support payments you can't afford because you took up a crippling alcohol dependency, huh?
[05:43] <Tadpole_Jackson> something like that.
[05:43] <Tadpole_Jackson> Your mother has been a valuable shoulder to cry on though.
[05:43] <Tadpole_Jackson> So I really do appreciate the help she's been giving me.
[05:44] <tumblr> Tadpole_Jackson: man if you dig up corpses to cry on them there's a whole fuck of a lot more wrong with you than i thought
[05:44] <tumblr> get help
[05:44] <Tadpole_Jackson> Hey man I wasn't the one who did the digging. Besides, she's very well preserved.
[05:44]  * Wug presents Tadpole_Jackson with +R
[05:44] <irath> omg it worked!
[05:44] <tumblr> Tadpole_Jackson: must have been all the cumshots to her face I gave her as a toddler
[05:45] <irath> my website actually works
[05:45] <\9> !ops
[05:45] <tumblr> irath: whats the URL?
[05:45] <irath> haha im actually afraid of posting it here.. everyone here knows computers too well my site is not very secure! lol
[05:45] <irath> but still i was expecting to spend the next 12 hours getting this working
[05:45] <irath> just started working on this 30 minutes ago..
[05:45] <tumblr> irath: dont worry we are all friends here, 4friends
[05:45] <Tadpole_Jackson> are you using tomcat and mongodb?
[05:45] <Tadpole_Jackson> irath,
[05:45] <irath> no im using postgres
[05:46] <tumblr> Tadpole_Jackson: my mom didnt say you could talk necrophile
[05:46] <Wug> tumblr: 172.25.67.199
[05:46] <Tadpole_Jackson> ...wait are you actually using tomcat?
[05:46] <irath> no
[05:46] <irath> whats that?
[05:46] <Tadpole_Jackson> good.
[05:46] <Tadpole_Jackson> it's apache
[05:46] <Tadpole_Jackson> but
[05:46] <Tadpole_Jackson> written in java
[05:46] <irath> just node, postgres, react, javascript
[05:46] <\9> what kind of pitch is that?
[05:46] <tumblr> Tadpole_Jackson: so are you going to pay me for this child porn or not
[05:46] <tumblr> er
[05:46] <tumblr> erotic underage "models"
[05:46] <elky> tumblr: stop.
[05:46] <Tadpole_Jackson> tomcat is the reason i'm going to need a new liver.
[05:47] <tumblr> elky: sorry "professional" but he owes a great deal
[05:47] <tumblr> and I found him
[05:47] <Wug> elky: I'm pretty sure that stopping is not on his to-do list
[05:47] <tumblr> so its time to pay up
[05:47] <pyrony> @ops: Dumps1o1Full is spamming Bank Accounts for sale...
[05:47] <Wug> elky: you should probably kick the bot too
[05:48] <Wug> ^
[05:48] <elky> pyrony: in PM?
[05:48] <pyrony> yep
[05:48] <elky> pyrony: please paste me an example in PM for future reference
[05:48] <pyrony> sure
[05:48] <Wug> Tadpole_Jackson: share what it messaged you too
[05:49] <Dumps1o1Full> lier
[05:51] <elky> any other troublemakers lost in the backlog?
[05:51] <irath> wow just got here and 2 bans already.. didnt know ubuntu was such a hot target lol
[05:51] <\9> none that I know of
[05:51] <elky> irath: big channels tend to get them no matter the topic
[05:51] <elky> just carry on with your day :)
[05:51] <irath> probably one of the demographics least likely to fall for spam..
[05:52] <irath> seems like a waste of time
[05:52] <\9> some people have nothing better to do
[05:52] <yourname2> what were they offering?
[05:52] <staeksauce> how can I have Plank start automatically when I boot
[05:52] <elky> illegal stuff. now lets move on and stop giving them attention
[05:52] <underd0g> okay sorry
[06:05] <oaulakh> can anyone help me with why ubuntu 16.04 freezing like hell ?
[06:07] <oaulakh> anyone?
[06:12] <oaulakh> can anyone help me with why ubuntu 16.04 freezing like hell ?
[06:12] <stickybranches> Whats seems to be the matter?
[06:13] <stickybranches> Can you tell me your hardware
[06:14] <stickybranches> Did you install proper drivers? (nvidia/amd or intel gpu requires no proprietary drivers)
[06:15] <jason_> oaulakh, can you describe the problem with a bit more detail?
[06:19] <oaulakh> jason_, its freezing, nothing more i can say, my screen get freeze and i can not control it for more than 2 min and than again everything goes right and again freezd
[06:20] <jason_> So it boots fine, correct? You are using stock Ubuntu - Unity desktop?
[06:20] <jason_> Are you running any applications? Browser? Anything Electron based?
[06:22] <oaulakh> jason_, yes it's boot fine! of course application like browser firefox and alot more, it just freeze
[06:22] <jason_> Does it freeze if you aren't running a lot of applications?
[06:23] <oaulakh> jason_, no
[06:23] <oaulakh> jason_, means it was working fine before but i dunno what happen now
[06:23] <jason_> So if you shut down all the applications but Hexchat, it is fine?
[06:24] <oaulakh> jason_, yes it's fine, it's main problem with firefox
[06:24] <oaulakh> jason_, whenever i start firefox it just gets angry! hahah
[06:24] <jason_> Ah. Firefox. Have you tried using Chrome or Chromium instead?
[06:24] <oaulakh> jason_, no
[06:24] <jason_> Even Opera. That is a pretty good browser.
[06:25] <jason_> Yeah, give Firefox a break and use Chromium if you want pure open source or install Chrome if you want a few more proprietary bells and whistles.
[06:25] <oaulakh> jason_, no i'm thinking about chrome so, and also updating my device drivers like nvidia maybe problem is somewhere in drivers or gpu processing something, is there any way i can clean firefox cache?
[06:26] <jason_> If the problem goes away, something is going on with Firefox. That isn't normal, but hey, it gets you closer to an answer.
[06:26] <oaulakh> jason_, yup, thanks will let you know if it solves
[06:27] <jason_> And if that doesn't solve it, then you don't waste time chasing down the wrong problem. :)
[06:27] <oaulakh> ;)
[06:28] <jason_> I wouldn't mess with the drivers too much unless you know what you are doing.
[06:28] <jason_> What kind of hardware are you running on?
[06:29] <jason_> Certain hardware, particularly Macs, are very sensitive to specific versions of NVidia drivers. Once you get it working, you never update.
[06:30] <dsnyders> #android
[06:30] <jason_> And what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[06:33] <oaulakh> jason_, its ubuntu 16.04 and i am running nvidia 410m pretty old ;)
[06:34] <oaulakh> jason_, basically it's sony vpceh25en laptop
[06:37] <jason_> Were you able to solve the problem by moving off of Firefox?
[06:38] <oaulakh> jason_, first i'm updating hardware drivers and than i will install chrome, internet not that fast :(
[06:38] <jason_> I guess I should ask - is this a recent upgrade, and then the problem started? Did you build it from the ISO or upgrade from 15.10?
[06:38] <oaulakh> jason_, from iso
[06:39] <jason_> And recent? Like did you just now install from ISO, but maybe you haven't applied all the updates yet?
[06:40] <oaulakh> jason_, yeah i didn't apply updates yet!
[06:41] <jason_> Ah. That is most likely the problem. The original 16.04 had some bugs, and there have been a number of fixes released to address those.
[06:42] <oaulakh> jason_, ok so i will update too
[06:42] <jason_> I installed 16.04 the day it came out, and it seems to be quite a bit more stable now than it was then.
[06:45] <TrentH> Hello, I have a icon on my desktop and whenever I open it it says "Do you want to execute, execute in terminal, open file" how do I set it to automatically execute?
[06:55] <underd0g> TrentH: there should be an option to execute it however you like when you right click on the icon
[06:59] <ultron> hi
[07:01] <ultron> hello everyone
[07:05] <ultron1231> hello
[07:05] <auronandace> ultron1231: you're not an umgah are you?
[07:06] <ultron1231> what do you mean by umgah
[07:06] <auronandace> sorry, its utwig isn't it
[07:07] <ultron1231> no I'm from India
[07:07] <finn_gk> Good daytime. There is a minor bug in nautilus-open-terminal that appeared after upgrading from Ubuntu 14 to 16. It is now preinstalled, but one cannot open a terminal in the desktop anymore: this terminal will be opened in the home directory instead.
[07:07] <ultron1231> are you from utwing
[07:07] <finn_gk> now it is
[07:07] <auronandace> ultron1231: your nick reminded me of a game where the ultron is a device
[07:08] <ultron1231> kk
[07:08] <ultron1231> I like this character from avengers 2 age of ultron
[07:11] <finn_gk> Maybe this behavior is intentionally, but for me it seems not to be logical in any way.
[07:12] <finn_gk> intentional
[07:12] <auronandace> finn_gk: whenever you open a terminal the default is to be in the home directory
[07:12] <auronandace> finn_gk: some file managers will allow you to right click and select open terminal here
[07:14] <ultron1231> type ctrl + alt +T
[07:14] <ultron1231> to open an terminal
[07:15] <computer> people, anyone knows how to use the ed command? i keep trying to use a command by i only get a question mark. please help
[07:15] <ikonia> computer: what are you trying to do ?
[07:16] <computer> ikonia: i want to run the following command: ed -s 1 <<< $'/xxxxx/+2s/^$/zz/\nwq'
[07:16] <ikonia> computer: not going to work
[07:16] <computer> ikonia: you helped me with yesterday
[07:16] <computer> ikonia: why not? how can i make it work?
[07:17] <ikonia> it's not a valid command for ed
[07:17] <ikonia> "man ed" to understand how ed works,
[07:17] <computer> ikonia: ok,
[07:20] <computer> should i change it to: ed -s $'/xxxxx/+2s/^$/zz/\nwq' filename?
[07:20] <ikonia> I don't understand why you are not just typing the file name
[07:20] <finn_gk> The problem is, that on the desktop there is "open terminal" instead of "open terminal here".
[07:20] <computer> ikonia: i am trying to add text 2 lines after a cetrain string xxxxx
[07:21] <auronandace> finn_gk: a terminal always defaults to the home directory
[07:21] <ikonia> so without knowing the file path, that looks sane, but I can't check your ed syntax for you
[07:23] <finn_gk> That's true, it might not be a bug, but "open terminal" should be replaced with "open terminal here".
[07:23] <computer> ikonia: i tried ed -s /home/computer/Desktop/1 <<< $'/xxxxx/+2s/^$/zz/\nwq' but i still get a question mark
[07:24] <ducasse> finn_gk: most people would expect and want the terminal to open in their home dir.
[07:24] <auronandace> finn_gk: if you want to change where it opens then change the .desktop entry of that terminal
[07:24] <ikonia> computer: then your sntax is wrong, you're probably not terminating it
[07:25] <finn_gk> I have a terminal starter in my starters bar that opens in the home directory, that is just fine.
[07:25] <computer> ikonia:  i am sure my syntax is wrong,
[07:26] <ikonia> computer: is the name of the file "1"
[07:26] <computer> ikonia: yes
[07:26] <ikonia> computer: then you have not read the man page
[07:28] <finn_gk> from where to grep -nr "\.desktop" ./ ??
[07:30] <auronandace> finn_gk: depends on what desktop environment you are using, if it is simply an icon on your desktop you could simply right click it and edit that launcher
[07:32] <computer> ikonia: i still don't understand, when i excecute ed i get an emputy screen and everything i do i get a ? , i cannot even exit by ctl-C
[07:33] <computer> ikonia: i am looking for youtube videos to show me how to use ed, but there is no explanation and usually youtube corrects my search from ed to sed
[07:33] <ikonia> youtube is not a way to use a text editor
[07:33] <ikonia> computer: have you read the man page
[07:33] <finn_gk> There are already some issues (as expected): https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus-open-terminal/+bugs
[07:34] <computer> ikonia: yes, but i did not understand it.
[07:34] <ikonia> computer: show me the command you are using
[07:35] <computer> ikonia: ed
[07:35] <elky> ikonia: I believe he did a few times now.
[07:35] <computer> ikonia: i am trying to understand how it works first,
[07:35] <ikonia> computer: the exact command you are currently using
[07:35] <ikonia> elky: he's changed it
[07:35] <computer> ed -s filename <<< $'/xxxxx/+2s/^$/zz/\nwq'
[07:35] <ikonia> ok, so a) why the <<<
[07:36] <ikonia> look at the synopsis on the man page - the first line
[07:36] <ikonia> ed [-] [-sx] [-p string] [file]
[07:36] <ikonia> how does the syntax look different to your input
[07:36] <computer> ikonia: hmm  ok,,,  so filename comes in the end
[07:36] <computer> ed -s $'/xxxxx/+2s/^$/zz/\nwq' filename
[07:37] <ikonia> getting better
[07:37] <ikonia> if you also look at "sed" examples you'll get examples of the syntax for the change
[07:38] <ikonia> but it's getting closer
[07:38] <computer> ikonia: -p?
[07:48] <Encing> hi  allll
[07:57] <ubuntu> :)
[07:59] <Banganka> Hi, I'm running 14.04.4, how do I make wifi reconnect automatically?
[07:59] <stickybranches> Well
[07:59] <Banganka> currently whenever it drops I have to go through the menu in the notification drawer and reconnect it manually which is annoying
[07:59] <stickybranches> If you got an issue like that, @Banganka, do this: open terminal
[08:00] <stickybranches> type the following, it may need a reboot 'sudo systemctl stop NetworkManager' then 'sudo systemctl start NetworkManager'
[08:00] <stickybranches> It could be your WiFi driver too, do you have the correct/sufficient drivers installed?
[08:01] <Banganka> stickybranches: how will restarting network manager help? seems like simply a different manual step..
[08:01] <Banganka> stickybranches: wifi works fine when it's connected, so I presume the drivers are ok. I update regularly
[08:02] <stickybranches> Banganka: I used to have a similar problem where the Network Manager required a little push (basically restart) in order for it to work
[08:02] <stickybranches> Hmm..
[08:02] <Banganka> stickybranches: yet this behaviour persists over reboots of the whole system, surely network manager can't maintain broken state over a full reboot that gets fixed by a service restart?
[08:02] <stickybranches> Hmm.. Interesting
[08:03] <stickybranches> Btw, how do I specifically mention your name?
[08:03] <stickybranches> Like you are doing with my username?
[08:03] <stickybranches> Try out WICD client
[08:03] <stickybranches> An alternative to Network-Manager
[08:05] <Banganka> stickybranches: just type first few letters then press tab, unless your irc client is truly ancient
[08:06] <stickybranches> WICD also happens to fix other issues with NM, such as random channel searching which in result increases the PING
[08:06] <Banganka> wicd? hm I can try.. how hard will ubuntu fight me to install it?
[08:06] <stickybranches> Banganka, sudo apt install wicd
[08:06] <stickybranches> I use HexChat
[08:06] <Banganka> stickybranches: oh I know how, but I find that ubuntu likes to fight about things sometimes
[08:07] <Banganka> stickybranches: I use kvirc, it's rather more advanced, try it sometime.. just beware that the default config is kinda ugly but you can change it to whatever you like
[08:08] <Banganka> wicd installed, how do I kick out NM and use it?
[08:08] <stickybranches> Do the following: 'sudo systemctl stop NetworkManager'
[08:08] <stickybranches> 'sudo systemctl disable NetworkManager
[08:09] <ikonia> you shouldn't need to stop network manager for this
[08:09] <ikonia> if your wifi is not auto-reconnecting you have a different proble
[08:09] <Banganka> I don't have systemctl
[08:09] <stickybranches> Oh, does it use upstart?
[08:09] <stickybranches> I got a tutorial for that, let me find it one sec bro :)
[08:10] <Banganka> no idea, not particularly familiar with ubuntu, this is my GF's laptop.. I'm a gentoo guy myself
[08:10] <stickybranches> Try this: sudo stop network-manager'sudo stop network-manager'
[08:10] <stickybranches> whoops
[08:10] <_fireion> Hi. I recently brought a new laptop and I seem to have a lot of errors in my dmesg.
[08:10] <stickybranches> 'sudo stop network-manager'
[08:10] <stickybranches> _fireion, post a screenshot please :)
[08:10] <_fireion> sudo service stop network-manager I think that might be what you want.
[08:10] <Banganka> stickybranches: hm, perhaps you're after 'service', ie sudo service stop .. etc?
[08:11] <_fireion> Sorry
[08:11] <Banganka> ikonia: any idea what it might be?
[08:11] <_fireion> sudo service network-manager stop
[08:11] <_fireion> I do it all the time.
[08:11] <stickybranches> Banganka, here, it should help you out: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/3xipom/how_to_eliminate_ping_spikes/
[08:11] <_fireion> To get my wifi running.
[08:11] <stickybranches> _fireion, we are talking about replacing NetworkManager with WICD here :)
[08:12] <ikonia> Banganka: depends, how have you debugged this
[08:12] <_fireion> Yes.
[08:12] <_fireion> I know.
[08:12] <_fireion> I installed ubuntu 16.04
[08:12] <stickybranches> so basically, use WICD which in a way is better (I use NM myself with MATE)
[08:12] <stickybranches> On 16.04, we use systemD
[08:12] <_fireion> And reinstalled to 15.10 because of it's network-manager
[08:12] <stickybranches> so therefore commands are a bit different
[08:12] <stickybranches> same with 15.10
[08:12] <Banganka> ikonia: poked around in dmesg and syslog, can't see anything there that tells me why NM doessn't want to auto reconnect to known APs
[08:12] <stickybranches> Banganka, has 14.04.4
[08:13] <ikonia> Banganka: do you see it drop the connection ?
[08:13] <_fireion> WICD does not disconnect intermittently
[08:13] <_fireion> WICD works with 802.1X.
[08:13] <_fireion> That's what I found good about it.
[08:13] <stickybranches> That is true
[08:13] <_fireion> It looks really bad though.
[08:13] <Banganka> ikonia: yeah it talks about dropping, then never says anything about trying to reconnect.. seems like it just chooses to not try for reasons unknown
[08:13] <stickybranches> ITs a good alternative to NM
[08:13] <ikonia> Banganka: is this a brodcom wifi card ?
[08:13] <_fireion> lspci
[08:13] <stickybranches> also good for gamers since NM scans for cleaner channels which disrupts ping and generates huge ping spikes
[08:14] <stickybranches> Do lspci as _fireion said
[08:14] <ikonia> network manager does what you tell it to do
[08:14] <Banganka> ikonia: Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[08:14] <_fireion> I don't think it has to do with card. The network-manager is bad.
[08:14] <_fireion> I have seen it happen over all the laptops in my college :-P
[08:14] <stickybranches> install WICD gtk from https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/3xipom/how_to_eliminate_ping_spikes/
[08:14] <ikonia> _fireion: how have you worked out that network manager is the problem here
[08:14] <stickybranches> it should help you out
[08:14] <ikonia> what investigation have you done
[08:15] <Banganka> ikonia: on several embedded systems I've had to nuke NM just to get networking to function at all
[08:15] <_fireion> I reverted back to 15.10 and just used to sudo service network-manager restart.
[08:15] <stickybranches> Even though it says its related to ping spikes, it will help you with the auto disconnect after sleep/connection dropout
[08:15] <ikonia> Banganka: what has that got to do with your current situation
[08:15] <stickybranches> Thats all I can help you with buddy :)
[08:15] <Banganka> ikonia: not much, but it indicates to me that NM may not be well polished
[08:16] <ikonia> Banganka: no, it indicates that you've had a problem
[08:16] <k1l> stickybranches: suspend and connection dropouts are driver /module issues, not NM issues
[08:16] <ikonia> Banganka: I've got network manager on over 5000 machines, zero problem, does that mean it's perfectly stable ?
[08:16] <stickybranches> kIl: oh ok :) my bad
[08:16] <stickybranches> k1l, oh ok :) my bad
[08:16] <Banganka> ikonia: yeah I have a problem, NM won't reconnect to wifi APs I've connected to before unless I pull up the menu in the notification drawer and click on the AP name
[08:16] <_fireion> Okay My turn. See the log : http://pastebin.com/pwPBxw6F
[08:16] <_fireion> dmesg
[08:17] <ikonia> Banganka: I don't believe network manager is your problem without futher investigation, so I'll let you get on with your current approach
[08:17] <k1l> NM was an issue some time ago. but it got stable over the last years. but the myths are still there, that NM is an issue. nevertheless wifi drivers are still a big issue.
[08:17] <Banganka> The "automatically connect to this network when available" option is selected
[08:17] <stickybranches> _fireion, what are the symptoms? hardware?
[08:17] <Banganka> but it doesn't do it :/
[08:17] <_fireion> Sometimes chrome hangs
[08:17] <_fireion> Especially when I play youtube
[08:18] <ikonia> Banganka: yet you have no idea why
[08:18] <_fireion> The audio / video keeps running
[08:18] <stickybranches> _fireion, thats probably due to chrome the app
[08:18] <_fireion> Read line 1020
[08:18] <Banganka> ikonia: nope, can't find anything relevant in logs, and don't know how to make NM more verbose about its internal reasoning
[08:18] <_fireion> of my log
[08:18] <stickybranches> _fireion, have you tried it without Flash, try chromium or firefox, ok I will read 1020
[08:19] <Banganka> _fireion: go to youtube.com/html5 and turn it on, see if that helps
[08:19] <k1l> _fireion: your hdd got issues.
[08:19] <ikonia> Banganka: there is an ubuntu wiki page specficially to do with debugging network manager
[08:19] <_fireion> But I just brought the laptop now :-P.
[08:19] <_fireion> I am running smart test btw.
[08:19] <Banganka> ikonia: care to link me? google doesn't work in china and the alternatives are useless
[08:19] <ikonia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingNetworkManager
[08:20] <k1l> _fireion: did you install bumblebee manually?
[08:20] <Banganka> _fireion: turns out pastebin is blocked in china... :/
[08:20] <_fireion> No, PPA.
[08:20] <stickybranches> _fireion, here refer to this forum post regarding LINE:1020 http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=219746
[08:20] <_fireion> graphics-drivers
[08:20] <k1l> _fireion: bumblebee?
[08:20] <Banganka> ikonia: thanks
[08:20] <_fireion> I just added ppa graphics-drivers and did sudo apt-get install nvidia-364.
[08:21] <stickybranches> REfer to that article to clarify a few things, hope that helps buddy! :) *** http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=219746 ***
[08:21] <_fireion> I don't think it uses bumblebee
[08:21] <Banganka> ikonia: ok set NM to debug log, will see what turns up next time the wifi drops
[08:21] <k1l> _fireion: did you try the regular ubuntu nvidia driver?
[08:21] <ikonia> Banganka: I'm not saying you don't have a bug - you very well may, however it's more likley in my view that it will be down to the card model, kernel options for that card and the way network manager is loading them
[08:22] <_fireion> That never worked.
[08:22] <_fireion> My laptop just won't login after that.
[08:22] <ikonia> Banganka: changing the wrapper that does that for you (eg: removing network manager) won't fix that IF that is the right problem
[08:22] <_fireion> And at that time I didn't know about x server logs. So I did not read on how to fix it.
[08:22] <ikonia> I'd just like to see people actually do more research into a problem before randomly suggesting making changes
[08:23] <_fireion> NM logs in /var/log/syslog right ?
[08:23] <Banganka> _fireion: seems that way, yeah
[08:23] <ikonia> it will log systems events there
[08:23] <_fireion> Where is the full detailed log ?
[08:24] <Banganka> _fireion: seems like it doesn't make one unless you ask for it as per ikonia's link
[08:24] <_fireion> Oh. Okay. Thanks.
[08:24] <ikonia> running a network manager in debug mode by default would be crazy
[08:25] <_fireion> Well I'll keep checking the logs if it happens again I'll ask them to replace motherboard and HDD. Good that my laptop is in onsite warranty.
[08:25] <_fireion> And cables. That should solve it right ?
[08:26] <_fireion> Anyways last time I ran network-manager. I wasn't able to connect to my hostel LAN, nor was I able to connect to any wifi. So I had to revert back to old ubuntu.
[08:27] <_fireion> on 16.04
[08:36] <joakimk> I'm trying to re-install GRUB bootloader on dual boot (ubuntu/windows) after reinstalling the windows partition. http://askubuntu.com/questions/83771/recovering-grub-after-installing-windows-7
[08:36] <joakimk> However, "re-install GRUB in the MBR" gives me problems
[08:38] <joakimk> fdisk -l tells me /dev/sda1 is the boot disk (it's indicated with * under "boot"). But when I type, sudo grub-install /dev/sda1 I get errors complaining about it being NTFS formatted
[08:38] <joakimk> "File system 'ntfs' doesn't support embedding. GRUB can only be installed on this setup by using blocklists, which are UNRELIABLE"...... what do I do?
[08:40] <ikonia> joakimk: you're trying to intsall to a partition
[08:40] <ikonia> not the disk
[08:40] <ikonia> the partition is ntfs - so it won't work
[08:40] <joakimk> Now to re-install grub in the MBR. You will need to know which disk your system boots from, and find it in the fdisk -l listing you have already done. Then type in sudo grub-install /dev/sd· replacing sd· with the disk you will boot from.
[08:40] <joakimk> did I misunderstand the instructions?
[08:40] <ikonia> yes
[08:40] <ikonia> look at the command you issued
[08:41] <ikonia> and look at the example in the text you just pasted
[08:41] <joakimk> ah! you mean, I'm only to enter /dev/sda
[08:41] <joakimk> ?
[08:41] <ikonia> yes
[08:41] <joakimk> perfect!
[08:41] <joakimk> thanks
[08:42] <Guest92750> holaa
[08:44] <joakimk> ikonia: sorry, one more thing? I get a syntax error near unexpected token do, on: sudo for i in /sys /proc /dev/pts /dev; do sudo umount /mnt$i; done
[08:44] <_fireion> Ho. Finally got rid of another error in ubuntu. Chrome kept asking for default browser option.
[08:45] <ikonia> joakimk: just manually mount each file system then
[08:45] <joakimk> but this is to unmount them?
[08:45] <joakimk> or?
[08:45] <ikonia> sorry - unmount them
[08:45] <joakimk> you mean, just sudo umount /sys etc
[08:45] <joakimk> ok
[08:46] <joakimk> target is busy...
[08:46] <ikonia> you'll find you're probably still using one of the partitions
[08:46] <ikonia> yes, there you go
[08:46] <ikonia> type 'pwd'
[08:46] <joakimk> hm
[08:46] <ikonia> see where you are
[08:46] <joakimk>  /home/ubuntu
[08:46] <joakimk> I'm booting from a live-CD (USB)
[08:46] <joakimk> btw
[08:46] <ikonia> see what is using those file systems/mounts
[08:46] <ikonia> run fuser -fuc against them
[08:47] <joakimk> how do you mean?
[08:47] <joakimk> :)
[08:47] <ikonia> a process is using them - so you can't unmount them
[08:47] <joakimk> fuser -fuc /sys
[08:47] <ikonia> not /sys
[08:47] <ikonia>  /sys is /sys from the livecd
[08:47] <ikonia> you want /sys from within your temporary filesystem
[08:48] <ikonia> or you can just reboot and it will sort it out in the reboot
[08:48] <joakimk> but sudo for i in /sys /proc /dev/pts /dev; do sudo umount /mnt$i; done <--- this unmounts all those, right?
[08:48] <ikonia> you won't be a able to do that,
[08:48] <joakimk> why do I get a syntax error... odd.
[08:48] <joakimk> anyway
[08:48] <joakimk> do I need to do this final stage of the instructions, or am I sort of done already?
[08:48] <ikonia> joakimk: again look at the command
[08:48] <joakimk> yes
[08:49] <ikonia> it's unmounting /mnt/sys
[08:49] <ikonia> not /sys
[08:49] <joakimk> yes!
[08:49] <joakimk> so I should do, manually, sudo umount /mnt/sy
[08:49] <joakimk> s
[08:49] <ikonia> so running fuser against /mnt/sys (or whatever) will dell you wants using it and you can stop it from using it
[08:49] <ikonia> and then the umount will work
[08:49] <CrackedCracker> Hello.
[08:49] <CrackedCracker> Can't get touchpad-indicator working on ubuntu 16.04, the thing doesn't even start
[08:49] <CrackedCracker> in terminal the only thing i get is
[08:49] <CrackedCracker> "touchpad-indicator : command not found"
[08:49] <CrackedCracker> It seems to be installed properly, at least synaptic doesn't show any errors
[08:49] <CrackedCracker> Reboot haven't helped.
[08:50] <joakimk> ikonia: doing themn manually worked fine, with sudo umount /mnt/sys
[08:50] <joakimk> prefixing everything (all dirs) with 7mnt
[08:51] <joakimk> ikonia: thanks!
[08:51] <joakimk> seems to have worked. Rebooting now and got the boot loader back!
[08:51] <joakimk> :D
[08:54] <ids> I just moved from linuxmint to ubuntu 16.04 (mate), but it I can't get my bluetooth mouse to work. It shows up in the device list and correctly pairs (so it says), but the mouse stays in pairing mode. Also, the bluetooth has crashed 2 times after several tries to connect
[08:58] <ids> brb reboot
[08:59] <Rusted`Metal> hi users
[08:59] <Rusted`Metal> small question can we install browser chrome(google) in ubuntu
[09:00] <ids> Yes, I believe it's even in the software managers
[09:00] <Rusted`Metal> Thanks@ids
[09:06] <ducasse> ids: chrome is not in the ubuntu repos.
[09:06] <Cedara> good morning, running ubuntu16.04, need to unrar an archive that has an password - what do I need to install to make that work? unrar?
[09:07] <\9> Cedara: unrar or unrar-free
[09:08] <Cedara> thanks!
[09:09] <ids> @ducasse: no, but you can it install it through the ubuntu software center, it's listed there
[09:11] <ducasse> ids: you need to install google's repo for that.
[09:13] <ids> @ducasse I did a clean install of ubuntu mate, can't remember adding a google repo
[09:14] <ducasse> ids: i can't find it on packages.ubuntu.com or with apt search, it should be there if it's in the repos.
[09:14] <staeksauce> can't you just download the .deb from google and install it via the software center
[09:14] <staeksauce> think that's what I did
[09:15] <ids> @ducasse @staeksauce: maybe that's what I did, and it appeared after installing
[09:16] <ducasse> ids: you must have, it's not in the repos.
[09:17] <user26> Is there any lightweight desktop environment that supports programmatic configuration (like gconf)?
[09:19] <ducasse> user26: xfce does, i think.
[09:20] <Cedara> Interestingly unrar-free didn't do what I wanted, had to use unrar.
[09:22] <alicerosa> salut
[09:23] <alicerosa> cc
[09:23] <alicerosa> bonjour
[09:24] <EriC^^> alicerosa: tu parles englais?
[09:29] <useraa> hi, does anyone know any games that work well with pc logitech game joystick/joypads?
[09:30] <useraa> I mean pc games that run on Windows xp/vista/7/8/10 etc..
[09:31] <EriC^^> /join #windows
[09:31] <EriC^^> useraa: ^
[09:44] <user26> join #debian
[09:58] <Mion> user26: go to steam, list by controller support, done
[09:58] <Mion> er... useraa ^
[09:59] <user26> Mion: Oh, you gave me a shiver of hope. :P
[10:00] <user26> Mion: Nobody seems to have an answer for me.
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> user26  repeat your question every 10-15 minutes, until someone enters who can help
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> in one line
[10:02] <user26> MonkeyDust: Thanks.
[10:02] <user26> Is there any lightweight desktop environment (like Xfce) that supports programmatic configuration (the gconf way)?
[10:02] <ids> how can I downgrade bluez5 to 4? I cannot get my mouse (or phone for that matter) to work. I think my mint installation still used 4 and it worked flawlessly
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> ids  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[10:04] <ids> `Ubuntu 16.04 LTS \n \l`
[10:06] <ids> @MonkeyDust connecting thu bluetoothctl gives Failed to connect: org.bluez.Error.Failed
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> ids  start with installing blueman
[10:07] <ids> @MonkeyDust already installed
[10:07] <user__> hi all. how to know from which repository was installed each package, even this repo doesn't exists in the sources lists anymore?
[10:15] <PandaBob> good question
[10:16] <ducasse> user__: in that case those packages will be listed as locally installed.
[10:16] <PandaBob> how long does it take to become an expert at ubuntu
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> PandaBob  depends on how smaqrt you are
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> smart*
[10:17] <ids> @PandaBob |---------------------| (approx.)
[10:17] <PandaBob> hmm
[10:18]  * PandaBob might play video games instead
[10:18] <sadlee> Hi there. Is there an irssi support channel. It's about 5 years since I used IRC and I've forgotten almost everything I ever knew
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> PandaBob  yes, become a game expert
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> sadlee  i use irssi, what do you want to know
[10:19] <sadlee> I can't remember how to move windows
[10:19] <akik> sadlee: #irssi on freenode has 520 users (at least)
[10:19] <sadlee> Oh it didn't join me
[10:19] <sadlee> I'll try again
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> sadlee  /window move left|right
[10:19] <sadlee> Thank you very much
[10:20] <user__>  <ducasse> can you tell me how to see all packages installed locally?
[10:20] <sadlee> It's not quite like riding abike :)
[10:20] <ducasse> user__: the easiest way is to use synaptic.
[10:23] <sadlee> I can remember the real basics MonkeyDust but all the rest has gone. I will have to RTFM all over again. But thanks for what I needed to know right now :)
[10:23] <Combined2857> Hello, could someone give me help on how to add more info to this bug, which seems like kernel regression ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1570899
[10:24] <ikonia> Combined2857: what do you need /
[10:24] <ikonia> ?
[10:24] <Combined2857> ikonia: i would like to help fix this bug
[10:24] <Rurd2di> hey guys , i need a hand , i have just installed latest nvida drivers, but cant change my 2 side monitors beyond 800x600 and iother is stuck at 640x800. i tried looking at the xorg.conf but its empty
[10:24] <Rurd2di> any ideas on how i can fix this
[10:24] <Combined2857> by providing all the info i need
[10:24] <ikonia> Combined2857: so what do you need
[10:25] <Combined2857> ikonia: I do not understand the instructions those people give me, and I cannot execute them after i press sleep button, because the screen never comes up again so I manually shut down the computer
[10:25] <Bluesugar>  hello guys! can someone help me with opening a us bank account for non resident in the U.S.A
[10:26] <ikonia> Combined2857: so isnt' that a problem, that the screen never comes back up
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> Bluesugar  this is ubuntu support
[10:26] <Tin_man> Bluesugar, wrong channel, you need ubanku
[10:26] <Bluesugar> sorry guys
[10:26] <Combined2857> ikonia: yes it is, and I can't provide a command output after suspending because the screen is black
[10:27] <Combined2857> ikonia: the main problem with the bug is that the laptop is not suspending
[10:27] <Bluesugar> Thanks Tin_man
[10:27] <ikonia> Combined2857: so what information are you trying to get ?
[10:28] <Tin_man> Bluesugar, you need to just call a bank and have them direct you to the right source
[10:28] <Combined2857> ikonia: I don't know, anything that might help people to fix this problem, Clem asked me to "Please provide dmesg output after pressing the sleep button"
[10:29] <ikonia> I have no idea who clem is - I suggest trying to engage with Clem directly, if Clem wants specifics talk to him about it
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> Combined2857  Clem is the Mint guy... are you in Mint now?
[10:29] <Bluesugar> Tin_man, you mean calling the U.S bank?
[10:29] <Combined2857> MonkeyDust: yes I am, but this bug is filed under ubuntu because it is a kernel regression
[10:29] <Tin_man> yes
[10:30] <ikonia> Bluesugar: Tin_man this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[10:30] <ikonia> please keep it out of this channel
[10:31] <Rurd2di> xrandr -s 1920x1080
[10:31] <Rurd2di> oops
[10:31] <Rurd2di> wrong window
[10:35] <Mion> Rurd2di: this is not the terminal you are looking for /me waves hand
[10:36] <Rurd2di> hmm
[10:37] <Rurd2di> xrandr rejects my reuqests
[10:37] <Rurd2di> i need 1920x1080 god damn you linux
[10:37] <Rurd2di> 800x600 is so fucken shit
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> Rurd2di  stop
[10:37] <HackerII> you wont get any help with language like that
[10:38] <Mion> Rurd2di: vga cable?
[10:38] <ikonia> Rurd2di: do not swear
[10:40] <Rurd2di> 1 display port ,1 hdmi and 1 dvi
[10:40] <Rurd2di> dvi is find
[10:40] <Combined2857> so ikonia or MonkeyDust any ideas on how to give more info to the bug ?
[10:40] <Rurd2di> just other 2 wont place nice
[10:42] <ikonia> Combined2857: talk to "Clem"
[10:42] <ikonia> Combined2857: if he's asking for info that you can't provide, ask him how he expects you to get it
[10:42] <ikonia> other than that just provide the info you have
[10:43] <ikonia> if you're running this on mint - I suggest you work this through with the mint guys
[10:43] <Combined2857> ok thanks ikonia
[10:43] <sadlee> That's the one area where ubuntu is defintely better than Mint - the support system is much better established
[10:44]  * sadlee 's own opinion of course
, thanks
[11:03] <Skizu> I'm looking to do a byte for byte clone of a drive as I got a new bigger once. I'm currently on the live disk... how can I do this?
[11:03] <ikonia> are you sure you want byte for byte
[11:03] <ikonia> as that won't work take into acount the new size of the disk
[11:03] <ikonia> do you basically want to move your OS to a new disk and make use of the space ?
[11:03] <Skizu> I thought I could sort that with gparted after?
[11:04] <ikonia> want to do it in one easy hit ? just use clonezilla
[11:04] <popey> or indeed gparted
[11:04] <popey> gparted has a "copy and paste" option which is fun
[11:04] <popey> click partition, copy, click new disk, paste
[11:04] <ikonia> when did that creep in
[11:04] <Skizu> The drive I'm cloning is a windows one, that doesn't matter does it?
[11:04] <ikonia> never seen that
[11:04] <popey> years ago
[11:05] <popey> yeah, i only used it once or twice
[11:05] <ikonia> Skizu: nope,
[11:05] <popey> but, I would still use clonezilla as a preference
[11:05] <popey> because you can do the intermediate step of having a full image in case things go wrong
[11:05] <ikonia> the resize on clonezilla is very good and clever if you watch how it does it
[11:05] <popey> so you can re-do the paste
[11:05] <popey> yeah, +100 to clonezilla
[11:05] <ikonia> as in clone and resize in one click, it's clever how they do it
[11:05] <popey> it might matter to windows if you clone it
[11:06] <popey> windows gets a bit picky about being moved from one disk to another
[11:06] <popey> can be done, but be careful and keep backups
[11:06] <Skizu> Okay I'll google clonezilla
[11:06] <Skizu> Kind of why I wanted to do a byte clone, because then the device thinks it's the same device
[11:06] <ikonia> clonezilla will allow that just fine
[11:07] <popey> yeah
[11:07] <ikonia> (as will gparted as popey educated me)
[11:07] <popey> Skizu: you probably want a clonezilla live cd / usb to do it
[11:07] <Skizu> I've only got a ubuntu live cd
[11:07] <Skizu> And no more discs
[11:08] <Skizu> And a failing drive :D
[11:08] <ikonia> worth buying a usb/cd
[11:08] <Skizu> So I want/need to do it now
[11:08] <ikonia> shut the machine down while you get the right media
[11:08] <ikonia> the only risk is mechanical failure on spin up then
[11:08] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:09] <popey> hello BluesKaj
[11:09] <BluesKaj> hey popey
[11:10] <Skizu> Kind of annoying as I've a intel migration disc and it reboots to start acronis, but then I just get a black screen
[11:11] <user26> Is there any lightweight desktop environment (like Xfce) that supports programmatic configuration (the gconf way)?
[11:13] <popey> user26: I think you can do that with Ubuntu MATE
[11:13] <popey> It has a graphical config tool which I think just fiddles gconf keys under the hood
[11:13] <BluesKaj> Skizu, doe the cdrom actually boot , if not then maybe your boot sequence in the bios needs editing, make the cdrom first
[11:15] <Skizu> BluesKaj: Boots, just hangs with a black screen for a good 30+ mins till I hit enter/esc
[11:16] <BluesKaj> Skizu, bad disk perhaps. do any other disks boot?
[11:17] <Skizu> I loaded it via usb - started booting the repair manager (also used for cloning) but then goes into acronis and just forever a black screen
[11:19] <user26> popey: Are you sure MATE fits my *lightweight* desktop environment restriction? I just haven't tested it.
[11:22] <BluesKaj> Skizu, smartmontools installed?
[11:23] <Skizu> BluesKaj: What
[11:23] <BluesKaj> !smartmontools
[11:23] <davidkron> I ran boot-repair hoping it would allow me to boot into windows, but now i cant boot into neither of windows or ubuntu (uefi)
[11:24] <BluesKaj> !info smartmontools
[11:24] <BluesKaj> Skizu,^
[11:24] <popey> user26: yes
[11:25] <popey> user26: I run MATE on a 10 year old thinkpad.
[11:26] <Skizu> Oh yeah that's on the BIOS right?
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> i run Mate on a 7-8 year old frankenstein-laptop
[11:26] <mcpanawa> i run xubuntu on a 9 years old lenovo :)
[11:27] <mcpanawa> btw, hi to everyone
[11:29] <Skizu> Using clonezilla via ubuntu live cd - I just want to do a disk clone or a partition clone?
[11:29] <ikonia> how can you use it via the ubuntu livecd ?
[11:29] <mcpanawa> x201/x200s here :)
[11:30] <Skizu> clonezilla is commandline tool
[11:31] <bekks> Skizu: And whats your actual goal?
[11:32] <Skizu> bekks: I got a new intel drive, intel migration tools are giving me a black screen when going into acronis as it's trying to do the migration
[11:32] <Skizu> So my goal is to clone my old drive to my new intel ssd
[11:33] <bekks> Skizu: And which partitions are on the source disk?
[11:33] <TLF> Hello. It's there a way to find out what program loads a kernel module on boot? Thanks
[11:34] <bekks> TLF: Which kernel module are you talking about in particular?
[11:34] <Skizu> Boot, primary and diag(I assume means dianostics)
[11:34] <bekks> Skizu: Sounds like Windows-only.
[11:34] <TLF> bekks: asus_wmi
[11:34] <Skizu> bekks: Yep only windows on that drive
[11:35] <Skizu> So do I clone the whole drive or just the primary partition?
[11:35] <bekks> Skizu: You need to clone everything.
[11:35] <Skizu> Okay thanks
[11:36] <bekks> TLF: And whats the problem with that module being loaded?
[11:36] <Skizu> bekks: And I clone the boot loader too?
[11:37] <TLF> bekks: It's a laptop module and this is a PC
[11:37] <bekks> TLF: And whats the problem with that module being loaded?
[11:37] <TLF> bekks: It controls different ACPI settings
[11:37] <bekks> TLF: If you dont want it, unload it.
[11:38] <bekks> TLF: If you eant to permanently disable it, blacklist it.
[11:38] <TLF> bekks: I know to blacklist, but I prefer to check what's the program causing it to load. Can't I find it?
[11:39] <bekks> TLF: Most likely some service being started at boot.
[11:40] <BuFF> Hello, guys quick question - why after appliying these rules:
[11:40] <BuFF> -P INPUT DROP
[11:40] <BuFF> -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
[11:40] <BuFF> -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[11:40] <BuFF> I'm still getting blocked?
[11:41] <umoukun> nn
[11:41] <TLF> thanks
[11:42] <BluesKaj> BuFF, ask in ##linux or #networking
[11:43] <tingly-glasses> Hi all. I have ubuntu 16.04. How can I re-enable secure boot? BIOS says it's enabled, but during bootup the text "booting in insecure mode" appears at the top of the screen.
[11:43] <BuFF> BluesKaj: it is ubuntu related, on other distros it was perfectly
[11:44] <Skizu> BOOTMGR is missing
[11:44] <BluesKaj> BuFF, maybe so , but good luck with getting an answer to such a question here :-)
[11:44] <Skizu> FML
[11:46] <someone235> Hi, when I download adobe from here: https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ I get this message: "no file_to_app results to show"
[11:46] <someone235> Anyone has an idea how to solve this?
[11:47] <tingly-glasses> How can I enable secure boot in ubuntu 16.04? It is already enabled in BIOS, and secure boot is used when I Windows Boot Manager is first in the boot loader priority in BIOS.
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> someone235  have you tried to install the flashplugin-installer, from the ubuntu repos?
[11:47] <tingly-glasses> But secure boot isn't used when the ubuntu partition is first in the boot loader priority. How can I enable it?
[11:48] <Skizu> I've a missing boot manager now thanks to clonezilla
[11:50] <Skizu> Is the boot manage on a drive? Like where is my issue?
[11:55] <fluitfries> hi all.  having issues post installation.  have a dell inspiron 530s which was on lubuntu 13 and i dug it out to upgrade.  during upgrade it stalled.  now i am trying fresh install of lubuntu 16 and process goes fine.  but as soon as i boot past bootloader it gets to a black screen with text that says /dev/sda/ and all the blocks of said device, then hangs there forever...  any ideas?
[11:56] <fluitfries> it has pentium E2140 with 3 gb ram and i am installing with amd64
[11:56] <raccoon_> hi all
[11:56] <ioria> fluitfries, video card ?
[11:56] <raccoon_> how can i install drivers on video card in Lubuntu
[11:57] <raccoon_> any experienced programmers can join me in prv. thanx in advance
[11:57] <fluitfries> ioria: not sure, it's onboard, factory default
[11:57] <raccoon_> yeah it said no proprietary drivers found
[11:58] <fluitfries> ioria: i'm looking on dell.com for which chip
[11:58] <Mion> raccoon_: what card?
[11:59] <raccoon_> radeon
[11:59] <raccoon_> hd5480 something like that
[11:59] <raccoon_> old
[12:00] <ioria> fluitfries, should be intel
[12:00] <fluitfries> ioria: intel G3xx series graphic chip
[12:00] <ioria> fluitfries, can you open a console ? ctrl+alt+f1 (or f2) ?
[12:00] <fluitfries> ioria: i dont think so but i'll try now
[12:02] <fluitfries> ioria: nope, it just says /dev/sda2 clean lists the blocks, and has a blinking cursor
[12:03] <ioria> fluitfries, you have to wait a bit .... or try recovery (pressing shift) enable networking -> root shell
[12:03] <fluitfries> prior to this the screen does go blue background like it is going to load the gui but reverts back to this
[12:04] <ioria> fluitfries,  usually a blank screen doesn't stop you from opening a console
[12:05] <fluitfries> ioria: i got one!  i needed to use the fn key cos it's a mac keyboard
[12:05] <fluitfries> ok i'm on tty6
[12:05] <ioria> fluitfries,  ok , sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[12:09] <uqq> some users at #laravel told me that i should use 14.04 instead of 16.04. that would mean a complete reinstall for my server. is it worth it?
[12:09] <fluitfries> ioria: ok thats installed fine
[12:10] <ioria> fluitfries,  try reboot
[12:10] <ioria> fluitfries,  sudo reboot
[12:10] <Mion> uqq: what are you currently running?
[12:10] <Mion> uqq: and no you should not use 14.04
[12:11] <Mion> uqq: if laravel needs an old insecure php then just don't use laravel
[12:11] <Mion> or build the old php version in $HOME or similar
[12:12] <Mion> uqq: I asume that is why they told you to use 14.04
[12:12] <fluitfries> wow ioria that did it!  so why wasn't the OS installer doing that?
[12:12] <Mion> if not, find out why they told you to use 14.04
[12:12] <ioria> fluitfries,  ok... not sure ... old intel card ?
[12:13] <BluesKaj> maybe because the point release for 6.04 LTS isn't until July 21
[12:13] <ioria> fluitfries,  does ot happen with wily and trusty
[12:13] <BluesKaj> 16.04
[12:13] <ioria> *does not
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> !ltsupgrade
[12:13] <fluitfries> yea i guess it is old.  well thanks a million ioria
[12:13] <ioria> fresh install
[12:13] <ioria> fluitfries,  no problem, have fun
[12:16] <foormea> hiya. what would be the best way to have all network interfaces brought up as dhcp on startup on ubuntu server?
[12:16] <foormea> use a network manager like wicd?
[12:16] <Mion> just call dhcpcd with no args, or dhclient if you swing what way
[12:16] <marksei> don't use NetworkManager though, I found many difficulties on Ubuntu
[12:16] <Mion> or just use networkd
[12:16] <ioria> foormea, with a server i'd say configure /etc/network/interfaces
[12:16] <Mion> marksei: biggest issue is that ubuntu ships a fairly old version
[12:18] <foormea> context: i'm setting up a server, i have no access to a screen. just installed an ubuntu server on a raw hdd, put it in the server, that works. only concern: with the newer network interface naming, i can't tell it to configure eth0 as dhcp and that'll work, it's expecting a name in the form of /dev/enp3s9 or such
[12:18] <foormea> installed on a raw hdd *via virtual box*
[12:18] <foormea> i'll look into networkd thanks
[12:18] <foormea> what do you think about wicd though?
[12:19] <ioria> foormea, to get the interfaces's names run   ip a
[12:19] <foormea> yeah i've made a line in rc.local write the output of ifconfig -a into a file
[12:19] <foormea> whih i can see on another computer
[12:20] <foormea> but in general i'm wondering how to set all as dhcp, not just a specific interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:20] <Mion> foormea: don't use rc.local and don't use ifconfig
[12:21] <foormea> the rc.local was to be able to quickly see the iface name
[12:21] <marksei> foormea: network configuration is associated to interfaces, I don't think you can set DHCP up system-wide without some hacks
[12:21] <Mion> foormea: as I said, dhcpcd when run with no args will try to bring up every interface it sees
[12:21] <foormea> now i've got it, enp0s7 :)
[12:21] <ioria> yeah !
[12:21] <Mion> the issue ofcourse is if you have two or more interface connected to the same network
[12:21] <foormea> ok
[12:21] <Mion> or two or more both sets default route, dns etc.....
[12:21] <foormea> yeah that won't happen in my case
[12:22] <Mion> famous last words
[12:30] <ozkar> ögjkgyukuyk
[12:30] <ozkar> hi
[12:31] <usuario> hola
[12:31] <usuario> adios
[12:31] <Guest50673> chaoo
[12:31] <Guest50673> usuario: chaoo
[12:32] <ozkar> merhaba
[12:33] <g105b> Hi, I want to use ubuntu-mini-remix.org to configure my own distro, but when I run it in my VM the HDD only has ~1GB free, even though the disk should have ~16GB. Makes it very difficult to configure.
[12:36] <Skizu> I've a missing boot manager, how do I repair it?
[12:38] <Mion> Skizu: depends on which bootloader you are using
[12:38] <Skizu> I've no idea what one is
[12:39] <Mion> probably grub then
[12:39] <Skizu> Does like windows and things use grub?
[12:39] <Mion> https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[12:40] <Mion> windows doesn't use grub but you can use grub to boot windows
[12:40] <akik> Skizu: windows uses ntldr which can also be made to boot linux
[12:41] <Skizu> Okay okay, I've just cloned my drive using gparted the drive has windows on it, the new drive won't boot
[12:41] <Mion> sure it is just not the bios/uefi that is set to boot the wrong disk?
[12:41] <Mion> check teh boot order
[12:43] <Skizu> I manually seleted the new drive
[12:43] <Skizu> Mion: ^
[12:44] <Mion> how exactly did you clone the disk?
[12:44] <Mion> also uefi or not?
[13:01] <tusharm> hey guys, i need to download a zip file from my google drive to a system I can only ssh into... ANy ideas?
[13:02] <akik> tusharm: you can use wget or curl to download files
[13:02] <akik> tusharm: if you need a text mode browser, elinks
[13:02] <k1l> tusharm: wget the url
[13:05] <tusharm> yeah i tried... gdrive uses some authentication so normal wget just won't work
[13:05] <tusharm> i'll try elinks though
[13:06] <k1l> doesnt gdrive provide direct urls?
[13:12] <akik> tusharm: or you can tunnel x11 in ssh and open the browser from your remote
[13:17] <ItalianStallion> Hi I have a question, I'm trying to download a program called Pan, and the website has a bunch of different options to choose from...such as Source, Ubuntu PPA, Windows Installer, Git Repository...I dont know which one to use to install it
[13:17] <lerner> I have 4 GiB RAM installed, only 2 are recognized...
[13:17] <lerner> why?
[13:19] <k1l> ItalianStallion: ist that program included in the ubuntu repos? then i would consider using the ubuntu PPA
[13:19] <k1l> lerner: look into the bios if its recognized. if not its a hardware issue.
[13:19] <ItalianStallion> I dont know if its included in the ubuntu repos or not..does that matter?
[13:20] <ogra_> yes, yu should simply use the software center if it is
[13:20] <lerner> k1l, that means rebooting, right?
[13:20] <k1l> ItalianStallion: yes, you should prefer the installation from the ubuntu repos if its in it. because that way its already made working with ubuntu
[13:20] <ItalianStallion> where do i find the software center
[13:20] <k1l> lerner: yes
[13:20] <k1l> !info pan
[13:20] <lerner> k1l, and what do you mean with hardware problem? faulty hdd? faulty mobo?
[13:20] <ogra_> it is the icon with the little orange bag in your launcher
[13:21] <k1l> so its included, use the softwarecenter or "sudo apt install pan" on the terminal
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> ItalianStallion  it should be in the menu
[13:21] <ItalianStallion> do i click on the search your computer icon to find
[13:21] <ItalianStallion> and then type software center?
[13:21] <ogra_> yes
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> ItalianStallion  or alt-f2
[13:21] <ogra_> (just "software" skhold already be enough)
[13:21] <ogra_> *should
[13:21] <k1l> lerner: you said ram. i dont know what you want with hdd now. ram could be damaged, or not properly set in the mobo. or could be a incompatibility with the mobo.
[13:22] <lerner> k1l, ok
[13:22] <BluesKaj> pan is in the repos/software center, ItalianStallion , open a terminal and do, sudo apt install pan
[13:22] <ItalianStallion> ok i found the software center and found pan
[13:22] <ItalianStallion> im installing it now
[13:22] <ogra_> great
[13:23] <ItalianStallion> it says pending
[13:23] <ItalianStallion> do i just wait for it to finish
[13:23] <ogra_> if you clicked install you should see a little progress bar
[13:25] <k1l> wait for it to finish the install
[13:25] <ItalianStallion> oh ok, because i dont know if its downloading or not, it's been saying pending for a few minutes now
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> ItalianStallion  sounds like your connection is slow, i guess
[13:27] <ItalianStallion> it shouldnt be slow, im directly connected via ethernet cable and everything else i downloaded downloaded without a problem
[13:27] <ogra_> is that a normal unity desktop install ?
[13:28] <ItalianStallion> are you talkin to me?
[13:28] <ogra_> yes
[13:28] <ItalianStallion> i just went to the software center icon, i searched for pan and found it..then hit install
[13:28] <ogra_> (xubuntu or ubuntu gnomre might use a different software tool)
[13:29] <ItalianStallion> i dont know, is there a way i can find out
[13:29] <k1l> ogra_: i thought since 16.04 they switched it to the gnome one on unity
[13:29] <ogra_> k1l: yep
[13:30] <ogra_> but there are fixes on top (and it was renamed) could well be that ubuntu-gnome uses the unmodified "gnome-software" ... and iirc xubuntu-desktop ships with synaptics ... and mate with its own thing
[13:30] <ItalianStallion> is there a way i can tell you to find out what im using to make it easier for you guys
[13:30] <ogra_> (i have never seen "pending" in the normal 16.04 sw center)
[13:30] <ItalianStallion> cause i dont know
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> ItalianStallion  minimize all windows, then take a screenshot, then show us here http://imgur.com/
[13:36] <ItalianStallion> ok
[13:36] <ItalianStallion> how do i hide the gimp windows when taking a screenshot
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> ItalianStallion  ok, close gimp, then hit the 'print screen' button
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> on your keyboard
[13:37] <ItalianStallion> oh wait I found it
[13:37] <ItalianStallion> ok hold on im uploading it
[13:39] <ItalianStallion> http://i.imgur.com/QiagB2Q.jpg
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> ItalianStallion  that's Unity, the bar on the left is called the launcher or launchbar
[13:41] <ogra_> and teh orange bag there is the software center
[13:41] <ItalianStallion> I understand the bar on the laft is the launcher or the start menu
[13:41] <ItalianStallion> left*
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> !manual | ItalianStallion
[13:42] <ItalianStallion> Can I install the Pan program another way besides through the software center
[13:43] <ogra_> ItalianStallion: sure ... open a terminal with ctrl-alt+t
[13:43] <ogra_> then: sudo apt install pan
[13:43] <ogra_> (enter your password and you should see a progress bar)
[13:43] <ItalianStallion> yes its installing now
[13:44] <ItalianStallion> through the terminal
[13:44] <ogra_> good
[13:44] <ogra_> to open it, click teh ubuntu logo in the launcher and type "pan" ... you shold see an icon to click
[13:45] <ItalianStallion> It finished installing and I typed pan and I don't see it
[13:45] <ItalianStallion> all I see is Displays
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> what is pan supposed to do?
[13:46] <ogra_> its a newsreader
[13:46] <ogra_> pretty old thing :)
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> like an rss feed reader?
[13:47] <ItalianStallion> I tried typing that command in again in the terminal window and the last line in the terminal says
[13:47] <ogra_> http://pan.rebelbase.com/
[13:48] <ItalianStallion> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:48] <ogra_> ItalianStallion: try alt+f2
[13:48] <ogra_> then type pan in there
[13:48] <ItalianStallion> oh ok, I see it when I did that
[13:49] <ogra_> once it runs you can right-click the icon in the launcher and pin it
[13:49] <lerner> k1l, bios shows only 2 GiB RAM available... what possible hardware issues could cause this? I have been using 4 GiB without problems for 4 years now, so its not a compatibility issue, I opened the laptop and took the ram cards out and put em in again, they were not unconnected...
[13:50] <ItalianStallion> ok cool, I got it pinned
[13:50] <ogra_> yay
[13:50] <ogra_> enjoy
[13:50] <ItalianStallion> thanks
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> \o/
[13:50] <ItalianStallion> I have another question/problem
[13:50] <ItalianStallion> are you looking at my screenshot still
[13:50] <MonkeyDust> ItalianStallion  only the first is free, you have to pay for more
[13:51] <ogra_> heh
[13:51] <k1l> lerner: if you took them out and in again there must have been something wrong. try ##hardware for help
[13:51] <ItalianStallion> I have Date and month selected to be shown in my clock up on the top where the taskbar is..and next to the clock, it looks like its displaying the date and month in chinese
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> ItalianStallion  in the system settings, find 'language' ... you can install what you need and then 'apply system wide' or so
[13:52] <ogra_> or learn chinese :)
[13:53] <lerner> k1l, sudo lshw -c memory says that the first bank (of my 2 banks) is empty (which is not...) does tha give you any ideas?
[13:54] <ogra_> that really sounds like hardware
[13:54] <ItalianStallion> I'm installing the Language support thing I think it said it was, hopefully that'll fix it
[13:54] <terminal_crawler> ItalianStallion: It could also potentially be a font issue.
[13:54] <ogra_> if lshw *and* the BIOS dont see teh second bar ...
[13:55] <lerner> ogra_, broken DIMM card?
[13:55] <terminal_crawler> ItalianStallion: Scratch that. Most likely language or locale issue.
[13:55] <ogra_> yeah, unless it doesnt sit properly in teh slot or the slot is broken, i'd blame the bar
[13:56] <terminal_crawler> lerner: To check that it is not the ram card, you could swap the two cards and see if the issue changes.
[13:57] <ItalianStallion> in the Regional Formats, Chinese Literary was selected as default, I changed it to English (United States) and I just logged off and back on and now it's changed to english
[13:57] <maid> Hello guys
[13:57] <maid> i have a question when i h ave usb persistent live system with ubuntu
[13:57] <ogra_> nice... but you lost teh big opportunity to learn chinese :)
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> ItalianStallion  great, now first read the !manual, as suggested by ubottu
[13:57] <maid> how can i encrypt the whole thing
[13:58] <uqq> Mion, sorry for being away
[13:58] <uqq> laravel works in 14.04 and 16.04 just fine
[13:58] <uqq> the people just told me that 14.04 is more stable and i should always prefer it over 16.04
[13:58] <uqq> and they even told me to reinstall whole server to get 14.04
[13:58] <katerina_> Hey! Tried to get the sources of package with apt-get source, but got an error; http://paste.ubuntu.com/17210818/. Is this a bug or what ?
[13:58] <ItalianStallion> yea I'll check that out, I also found an ebook online called The Ubuntu Book 1st Edition
[13:59] <maid> can somebody please help me guys?
[13:59] <BluesKaj> maid:  ask your question
[13:59] <maid> i did
[13:59] <maid> how can i do full disk encryption on an persisten live usb
[13:59] <maid> stick with ubuntu
[13:59] <ogra_> katerina: uh, dont do that as root
[14:00] <ItalianStallion> oh uhm actually I have something else I wanted to ask that I just thought of
[14:00] <ItalianStallion> how come I can't click a program from the launcher to minimize it again
[14:00] <ItalianStallion> is that normal for it to not minimize like that
[14:00] <ogra_> ItalianStallion: ubuntu design team decision
[14:00] <zeus__> list
[14:01] <ente_> Hey guys, I would like to start my gnucash with the german language without changing my system default language (english). Starting gnucash by terminal with "LANGUAGE=de_DE.UTF-8 LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_ALL=de_DE.UTF-8 gnucash" works perfect. However I would like to use the launcher (gnucash.desktop). Does anyone know how to set these enviroment variables for a *.desktop file?
[14:01] <zeus__> join aircrack-ng
[14:01] <katerina_> ogra_:  ok, but why that?
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> ItalianStallion  yes, as of 16.04, you can acrivate it in compiz config
[14:01] <ogra_> (i think there was a hack to enable it for apps that only have one window open though)
[14:01] <ogra_> katerina_: i assume this is 16.04 ?
[14:01] <katerina_> Yup
[14:01] <ItalianStallion> how do I find that MonkeyDust
[14:02] <nedstark> xenial and trusty bot have about 2700 open bugs, 13 critical for xenial, 19 critical for trusty, so i don't know why people still think 14.04 is more stable
[14:02] <ogra_> in 16.04 apt runs as its own user ... i guess it gets confused
[14:02] <ogra_> but in general it is a bad idea to be root whhen working with package sources
[14:02] <maid> how can i do full disk encryption on an persisten live usb
[14:02] <ogra_> (you dont compile them as root either)
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> !repeat | maid
[14:02] <katerina_> Ah didn't know that. ty
[14:03] <ogra_> nedstark: well, xenial will only become LTS with 16.04.1 ... to make sure the worst initial bugs are found and fixed
[14:03] <maid> ok i think its not possible with live system just with hard installed harddisk install
[14:03] <ogra_> this is why 14.04 users do not get offered to upgrade yet
[14:03] <maid> i dont find anything
[14:03] <nedstark> i'm just talking in relative terms, 14.04 isn't anymore bug free than xenial
[14:04] <ogra_> well, it is older so teh SW is more mature
[14:04] <nedstark> mature, but no less buggy
[14:04] <ogra_> and it is more likely that existing bugs have been found (and possibly even fixed)
[14:04] <nedstark> the bugs are all tracked on launchpad and i cited the numbers above
[14:05] <ogra_> the numbers say nothing
[14:05] <ogra_> you have to take severity into account too
[14:05] <nedstark> i did
[14:05] <nedstark> critical, important, etc, xenial is better than trusty
[14:05] <ItalianStallion> hey MonkeyDust how do I find that option you are talking about
[14:06] <nedstark> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> ItalianStallion  install compiz config, open it and activate 'minimize on click' or so
[14:07] <ItalianStallion> do i use the command sudo apt install compiz
[14:07] <ItalianStallion> is that the right command
[14:09] <maid> is it possible to install ubuntu ob an usb stick like on an harddrive? i mean hard install and no live syystem?
[14:09] <ente_> ItalianStallion: First install CompizConfig Settings Manager. Afterwards CompizConfig Settings Manager -> Ubuntu Unity Plugin -> Launcher -> Minimize SIngle Window Applications (Unsupported)
[14:09] <maid> than i maybe can do the whole usb encryption
[14:10] <ItalianStallion> ok whats the command to install that ente_?
[14:11] <ente_> ItalianStallion: Comon... https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/compizconfig-settings-manager/
[14:13] <maid> ok guys you suck sorry
[14:13] <ente_> ItalianStallion: Be careful with this tool. Do not deactiavte the Ubuntu Unity Plugin!
[14:13] <maid> my question cant be so hard that no one here cant help me
[14:13] <maid> on any question i ask
[14:13] <ogra_> maid: do you think insults will get you better answers ?
[14:13] <ItalianStallion> alright your scaring me now..is it gonna mess anything up?
[14:14] <maid> better? i didnt got any answers and your talking of better ones
[14:14] <ogra_> maid:  no, i'm talking about your tone
[14:14] <ente_> ItalianStallion: Nah, just dont scroll ur mousewheel (that may change some dropdowns) or click the wrong checkbox. :D
[14:14] <maid> however
[14:14] <ogra_> if nobody knows teh answer you simply wont get one
[14:15] <Chris55> I have an Internet problem with a fresh install of desktop 16.04.  Can someone help me?
[14:15] <Xin>  Chris55 no.
[14:15] <BluesKaj> maid:  maid maybe you could use a ssd with usb connection, if such a thing esxists without an enclosure/adapter , also insulting the room won't get you much help
[14:15] <maid> ok you wanna tell me noone knows if i can install an hard installation like on an hardware at an usb stick with ubuntu
[14:15] <maid> ok sure
[14:15] <maid> than im wrong here
[14:15] <ogra_> you surely can
[14:15] <ogra_> you initially asked about encryption though
[14:16] <ItalianStallion> dont scroll my mousewheel? but i use my mousewheel often lol
[14:16] <maid> and than i said ok noobody can help me maybe it dont exist but i know it exist when u install ubuntu you can choose this encryption thing
[14:16] <maid> but on live system you cant
[14:16] <ioria> Chris55, like what ?
[14:16] <nedstark> luks
[14:16] <maid> so i asked can i install ubuntu on an usb stick like i would do on an hardisk
[14:17] <maid> so that i can choose on the installation the whole encryption thing
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> !persistent | maid yes
[14:17] <ogra_> you dont need to repeat everything now (and leaving out the "you guys suck") we all have a backlog in our clients
[14:17] <ente_> ItalianStallion: I did it on the profile section and switchted the profile (which deactiavtes the Ubuntu Unity Plugin) without noticing... Afterwards my unity was a bit broken... :D
[14:17] <Chris55> I get a connection to the Bell Home Hub but the web pages don't load.  I tried wireless and wired...same problem.
[14:17] <maid> monkey im not talking about persistent
[14:17] <maid> im talking about an hard installation
[14:18] <ioria> Chris55,  ping www.google.com  ?
[14:18] <ogra_> sure, just pick the target usb key in teh installer ...
[14:18] <Chris55> tried that...doesn't work
[14:18] <BluesKaj> maid:  but why, portability ?
[14:19] <ItalianStallion> oh..thats scary ente_ lol
[14:19] <ioria> Chris55,  ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[14:19] <BarryIsLost> Greetings. I'm trying to establish a 16.04 laptop to replace my wife's 14.04 laptop, but I cannot get my NAS to mount on boot. If I sudo mount -a after boot, it mounts fine. Any ideas?
[14:19] <Jordan_U> maid: Yes you can. For a BIOS based system you just install normally. For a UEFI based system you can still install normally, but unless you do additional steps afterward the USB drive will only boot from the machine you installed with (and the machine you installed with will be left with an Ubuntu entry in its boot firmware even when the USB drive has been removed).
[14:19] <maid> BluesKaj yeah i need to switch fast about on 2 laptops and 1 pc
[14:19] <olivier__> Hello, I want to know how can I root/flash a android phone on ubuntu.
[14:20] <Chris55> I have not tried 8.8.8.8 but have tried pinging the network card which works.  But pinging the modem fails intermitently.
[14:20] <Jordan_U> maid: Also, if you try this with a standard consumer thumb drive the performance will likepy be abismal.
[14:20] <Amm0n> maid, USB installation + encryption can't be fast
[14:20] <ioria> Chris55,  ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> BarryIsLost  you can use 'gigolo' and mark 'autoconnect'
[14:20] <BluesKaj> maid:  suggest you install on a partition on those machines instead of a stick
[14:21] <maid> i doesnt need to be fast
[14:21] <maid> im just using it for some documents
[14:21] <olivier__> How can I root a android phone on ubuntu ?
[14:21] <maid> to be secure
[14:21] <maid> and that i can edit it sometimes thats all
[14:21] <maid> i dont work on it or any stuff
[14:21] <BluesKaj> maid:  then you don't need an OS
[14:21] <BarryIsLost> oliver__: There's no single way to answer your question. It depends on which phone you have, and which Ubuntu you have.
[14:21] <Jordan_U> maid: BIOS or UEFI?
[14:22] <maid> Jordan_U whats better for security reasons and for the portability on many laptops?
[14:22] <olivier__> BarryIsLost : I have a samsung galaxy note 4 and I am on 16.04.
[14:22] <maid> BIOS i think right?
[14:22] <Chris55> ioria, pinging the modem fails most of the time so I don't think 8.8.8.8 would work either.
[14:23] <BarryIsLost> That's more helpful, oliver__. I still don't have an answer for you, but if you include that kind of information in your question, plus who your provider is, you might find someone who has the answer.
[14:23] <ioria> Chris55,  simply try 8.8.8.8 it's just Google, nothing more
[14:23] <mistralol> anyone any suggestions for debugging an early kernel crash during boot?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> maid:  all you need is a mountable drive with the files on it
[14:23] <Jordan_U> maid: If you really want it to be usable on many laptops then you can install with both BIOS and UEFI support, but there are enough little catches that not many people know about and I don't have time to walk you through it at the moment.
[14:23] <olivier__> BarryIsLost : My provider is a canadian provider
[14:24] <Chris55> I'm in windows now...I'll have to reboot.  If that works then what?
[14:24] <ioria> Chris55,  could be DNS issue
[14:24] <ioria> Chris55,  try also 'route' to identify your gw
[14:25] <Chris55> Ok.  Thanks ioria
[14:25] <ioria> Chris55,  no prob
[14:25] <maid> so whats better now Jordan BIOS?
[14:26] <BarryIsLost> oliver__: Let me try this again. I don't know how to do that. There are probably people who do know how to do that. If you ask them, providing all the information they need, they might be able and willing to answer. But, you need to ask your question in a complete way, like, "I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 4, and I am currently on {insert the actual name of your Canadian provider here}. What do I need to do to root this phone
[14:26] <maid> ok i want bios Jordan_U
[14:26] <scriptwarlock> hello anyone can point me the link in creating manually  a desktop shortcut and launcher in ubuntu xenial?
[14:26] <ente_> FYI: AFAIK u can not set an enviroment variable within *.desktop files. U need to create a bash file (e.g. "LANGUAGE=de_DE.UTF-8 LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_ALL=de_DE.UTF-8 gnucash") and change the "EXEC=____" value within the *.desktop file to ur created bash file (do not forget chmod +x ur bash file).
[14:27] <olivier__>  is that someone here knows how rooter phone android on ubuntu . I have a Samsung Galaxy 4 and am on ubuntu 16.04 . My provider is a Canadian Videotron
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> ente_  great, but who are you talking to
[14:27] <\9> scriptwarlock: https://developer.gnome.org/integration-guide/stable/desktop-files.html.en
[14:27] <scriptwarlock> thanks
[14:27] <ente_> MonkeyDust: Just answering my own question. :)
[14:28] <olivier__> t is that someone here knows how can I root a phone android on ubuntu . I have a Samsung Galaxy 4 and am on ubuntu 16.04 . My provider is a Canadian provider Videotron
[14:28] <maid> Jordan_U how i best do the BIOS installation on the stick
[14:28] <maid> can i do it over windows or what is the easiest way
[14:29] <nedstark> olivier__, this video shows how https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vohxgmuKWgo
[14:29] <scriptwarlock> wait a minute is the link for ubuntu vanilla or regardless of?
[14:29] <mistralol> can anyone help me with an issue with 16.04 it crashes on boot and I have no idea why
[14:29] <\9> scriptwarlock: it's for any freedesktop-compliant desktop, unity, gnome, kde, xfce, ...
[14:29] <BluesKaj> olivier__:  are you trying to unlock your phone ? if so this isn't the place to ask, try #android
[14:30] <scriptwarlock> ok thanks
[14:30] <ente_> mistralol: what do u mean by "on boot"?
[14:30] <olivier__> Nedstark : I don't have a galaxy S4 but a Galaxy note 4
[14:30] <BarryIsLost> My NAS won't mount when I boot. I'm trying to establish a 16.04 laptop to replace my wife's 14.04 laptop. If I "sudo mount -a" after boot, it mounts fine. Any ideas?
[14:31] <mistralol> ente_: well its an upgraded 15.10 -> 16.04 if i boot it into the old 15.10 kernel it works. But the 16.04 kernel just enters a reboot loop
[14:31] <lerner> i have a broken memory card, I changed DIMM cards and now is bank 0 (DIMM1) the broken one. thing is: I dont know which one is 1 and which one is 0, there are no numbers next to the slots...
[14:31] <olivier__> BluesKaj : the channel is not a support channel
[14:32] <Jordan_U> maid: Boot the install media via BIOS, ensure that the USB drive is selected as the device where grub's boot sector will be installed (this should be a drive, like "sdb" *not* a partition like "sdb1")
[14:32] <Jordan_U> maid: To do that you will probably need to use manual partitioning, and I also don't have time to walk you through manually configuring LUKS.
[14:33] <maid> so i need 2 sticks right? one where it bneed to be installed and one with the insallation image right??
[14:33] <Jordan_U> maid: Correct. (There are ways around that, but they complicate things severely)
[14:33] <BluesKaj> olivier__:  then try #android-root
[14:34] <BarryIsLost> maid: You might be able to get away with one, but you would have to use something like gparted to shrink the main partition and create another one on the stick, and then you'd probably have to mount it manually.
[14:35] <BarryIsLost> maid: You can use an Ubuntu install disk as a live CD, and you can use something like Universal-USB-Installer to move the Ubuntu ISO onto a thumb drive to make it bootable.
[14:35] <maid> ok thank you bro
[14:36] <maid> ill try it now and come back when it doesnt fit
[14:36] <BarryIsLost> maid: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[14:36] <Chris55> ioria,  I tried pining 8.8.8.8.  "Network unreachable".  Pinging my modem 192.168.2.1 also fails.
[14:37] <ioria> Chris55,  can you paste ifconfig ?
[14:37] <ioria> Chris55,  your connection not working at all
[14:38] <nedstark> you can use virtualbox to create an ubuntu installation, then convert the .vdi file to raw format using vboxmanage and then use dd to move it to a usb.  it is persistent that way.
[14:38] <Chris55> how do I run ifconfig?
[14:38] <ioria> Chris55,  ifconfig
[14:38] <Chris55> ok...I'll be back...
[14:38] <BarryIsLost> My NAS won't mount when I boot. I'm trying to establish a 16.04 laptop to replace my wife's 14.04 laptop. If I "sudo mount -a" after boot, it mounts fine. Any ideas?
[14:38] <ioria> Chris55,  maybe use your phone to chat ... or another pc
[14:42] <olivier__> Hello How can I root a galaxy note 4 on ubuntu ?
[14:42] <circ-user-WveRx> hi this is my first visit to an irc channel ... and i am installing ubuntu... if anything happens ... i hope you are here for me :)
[14:43] <terminal_crawler> circ-user-WveRx: That we are :)
[14:45] <Amm0n> BarryIsLost, maybe it's trying to mount before the network is up?
[14:46] <eggggs> olivier, most of the root programs i saw were for winblows, might be able to get it done in a virtual machine, but have never tried it
[14:48] <BarryIsLost> Amm0n: I suspect that may be the case, but I'm not sure how to delay the start.
[14:49] <eggggs> yeah i have a vpn that always fails because of acient wifi chip
[14:49] <eggggs> is slower than start up of vpn program
[14:52] <eggggs> in autostart  they say to put  sleep 10;
[14:53] <Amm0n> BarryIsLost, you could use Networkmanager-Dispatcher for that, or a script that does this job
[14:55] <BluesKaj> eggggs: is it necessary for your vpn to startup at login ?
[14:56] <akik> BarryIsLost: i have the same issue with 2 nfs mounts. i have them in /etc/fstab but i need to mount them after boot manually (sudo mount -a)
[14:57] <BarryIsLost> eggggs: I'm not familiar with autostart, and a system search doesn't seem to be finding it.
[14:59] <BarryIsLost> Amm0n: I'm also not familiar with Networkmanager-Dispatcher.
[14:59] <impl0sion> anyone able to give me a hand with some bash problems im having?
[15:01] <akik> !ask
[15:01] <BluesKaj> BarryIsLost:  autostart is a file or script option in kde/plasma system settings/startup and shutdown
[15:02] <impl0sion> Ok, so I'm trying to execute a game server start command from a php web page, where the page is loaded, a script is executed which cd's to the game servers files and runs the server start script of ./csgoserver
[15:02] <Amm0n> BarryIsLost, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NFS#NetworkManager_dispatcher and https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NFS#Automatic_mount_handling should also work on ubuntu ;)
[15:04] <BakaSama> salut :)
[15:04] <BakaSama> y'a des gens qui parlent en français ?
[15:04] <Amm0n> !fr | BakaSama
[15:05] <reeed> is ubottu human?
[15:05] <Amm0n> !bot | reeed
[15:06] <reeed> ahhh i see the prior command now
[15:06] <reeed> hehehe
[15:06] <nedstark> ubottu is actually daniel day lewis, who's here to practice method acting in between major roles. he doesn't come out of character.
[15:07] <nedstark> i drink your milkshake!
[15:07] <ZeekHuge> Hey ! I am using 14.04 on lenovo thinkpad T430 with that vga port. so, I have attached a Dell monitor and first, it was running at low resolution, so i used cvt and xrand to add newmode "1600x900_60.00" and then switched to higher resolution. It was then working fine, but since today, it getting detected and undetected again and again. Any Idea how to get this working properly ?
[15:07] <ZeekHuge> *xrandr
[15:08] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: Does the monitor work fine with other PCs/laptops?
[15:08] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: As in, it doesn't detect/undetect.
[15:09] <scriptwarlock> where is the shutdown located? was it still in sbin/?
[15:10] <akik> adding "x-systemd.automount" to mount options in /etc/fstab made the boot time nfs mount active for me (16.04)
[15:10] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler:  let me check it on my friends laptop, but since its  a new one, and was working fine, it should, i guess.
[15:10] <ItalianStallion> I downloaded a program, it was in .tar.gz format and I extracted it to a folder, but now when I double-click on it to run it it doesn't open
[15:13] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: How frequently does it swap from being detected and undetected?
[15:13] <Amm0n> BarryIsLost, see akik's paste above.. didn't know about this one yet
[15:15] <terminal_crawler> ItalianStallion: What is the program file extension?
[15:15] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: (If it has one)
[15:17] <hylian> hello
[15:17] <user26> Is there any lightweight desktop environment (like Xfce) that supports programmatic configuration (the gconf way)?
[15:18] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: It is working fine on my friends laptop, with VGA port. I even got the 1600x900 mode working there too
[15:18] <ducasse> user26: as i said earlier, i think xfce does with something called xfconf
[15:18] <scriptwarlock> where is the shutdown located? was it still in sbin/?
[15:20] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: So the exact same comands/setup, but not working on your laptop. Same O.S.?
[15:20] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: On my system, once it starts (I dont know what triggers it ), it continues indefinitely, until i reboot it.
[15:21] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: actually it is working on my system too ..  like it works fine for an hour and then this detect/undetect problem starts
[15:22] <ItalianStallion> im trying to download java..but i dont know which one to install..they have Linux RPM, Linux, Linux x64 and Linux x64 RPM
[15:22] <ItalianStallion> which one do I choose?
[15:23] <ZeekHuge> okay and just if it helps, my system has that optimus thing, with Nvidia and Intel graphics card. Though I have already switched it (Nvidia )off in bios iteself.
[15:23] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: ^
[15:24] <ducasse> ItalianStallion: why not install java from the repos?
[15:24] <user26> ducasse: Oh, so it was you (and this answer). I did get a message received notification, but my IRC client won't allow me to see older scrollback.
[15:25] <ItalianStallion> how do I do that ducasse
[15:25] <ducasse> ItalianStallion: with apt-get or software center
[15:26] <ducasse> user26: take a look at the xfconf-query man page
[15:26] <ItalianStallion> whats the apt-get command do you know?
[15:26] <ItalianStallion> because software center is being weird
[15:26] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: On the lower resolution (or other resolutions), do you get the same issue?
[15:27] <ducasse> ItalianStallion: try synaptic instead
[15:38] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: actually I am waiting it to happen again. Its working fine for now.
[15:38] <ZeekHuge> I'll let you know as it starts again.
[15:38] <noobMan> i'm on ubuntu 14 .. it freezes frequently.. what might be the reason.. i reinstalled 4 times now..same proble...
[15:38] <ItalianStallion> i'm trying to run a program called hjsplit, and I've just installed the jave run time enviorment thing, but hjsplit still wont open
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> noobMan  14.04 or 14.10?
[15:39] <popey> noobMan: what kind of hardware, what kind of video card?
[15:40] <noobMan> MonkeyDust:  popey http://imgur.com/OI0xMAT ..
[15:41] <ioria> !info gnome-split | ItalianStallion
[15:42] <ioria> ItalianStallion, but you can use split from your terminal
[15:42] <popey> noobMan: is there anything which seems to trigger the freeze? Any particular app / activity?
[15:42] <ioria> ItalianStallion, really no need for hjsplit
[15:42] <noobMan> popey: no.. it freezes randomly.. sometimes just after 1 minute after booting or after 2 hrs
[15:44] <ItalianStallion> i'm not really that good with using terminal though
[15:44] <noobMan> popey: MonkeyDust is there any command or tool to disk check or remove bad sectors.. i don't know how to use fsck
[15:44] <ioria> ItalianStallion, man split
[15:44] <ItalianStallion> actually i just found that the hjsplit program also has a .jar version which i just downloaded and that worked
[15:44] <popey> noobMan: I'd be inclined to run a memtest first
[15:44] <popey> noobMan: leave it running all day or overnight if you can
[15:45] <popey> noobMan: there is "Disk utility" which can run some tests on the disks, yes.
[15:45] <noobMan> popey: what memtest does?
[15:45] <popey> noobMan: tests the ram, agressively to identify bad sticks
[15:45] <popey> memtest is the first thing I always run if a machine is locking up
[15:46] <DANYAL> dasd
[15:46] <DANYAL> sa
[15:46] <DANYAL> hello
[15:46] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: I'll be ready for ya :)
[15:46] <noobMan> popey: ok ..i'll try it..thanks bye
[15:46] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: Thogh I might need to sleep soon, it is 1am here lol
[15:46] <popey> np
[15:47] <JakesDen> jjj
[15:49] <JakesDen> Hello, Can someone help me with stuff related to sudo?
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> JakesDen  let's hear it, in one line
[15:54] <JakesDen> I need to know how to make it so when i run apt, apt-get, apt-add-repository etc it will run as sudo when i run it normaly under my user jake
[15:54] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: So far so good?
[15:55] <ducasse> JakesDen: just prefix the commands with sudo
[15:55] <JakesDen> without doing that
[15:55] <terminal_crawler> JakesDen: And use aliases.
[15:55] <ducasse> JakesDen: 'alias apt="sudo apt"'
[15:55] <terminal_crawler> ducasse: Thanks.
[15:56] <JakesDen> i want it so i dont have to enter my password either
[15:56] <ducasse> JakesDen: 'man sudoers'
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> JakesDen  you want to disable the password altogether?
[15:57] <JakesDen> only for certain commands
[15:58] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: yeah good so far :(  / :)
[15:58] <ZeekHuge> Ever I allowed the screen to sleep, and get it back up.
[15:58] <ZeekHuge> it working finr
[15:58] <ZeekHuge> *fine
[15:59] <ZeekHuge> Anyway, I'll ping you when it gets bad, and if you are asleep by then, we'll try to figure it out later. 9:29 PM here (IST)
[15:59] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: ^
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> JakesDen  http://paste.ubuntu.com/17215935/
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> JakesDen  careful, know what you do, the password is there for security
[16:01] <Amm0n> JakesDen, there are good reasons to need root permissions on certain commands..
[16:02] <JakesDen> i have backups incase anything goes wrong and i will only install something or run a command if i know its safe to do
[16:02] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: Do I need to leave my computer on to be pinged? Otherwise I should be on tomorrow night (my time).
[16:03] <JakesDen> is there a way to make visudo open pluma my prefered application for editing text?
[16:03] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: I would progressivly try different resolutions to see if it is just that one which is suspect.
[16:03] <terminal_crawler> JakesDen: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4408/how-to-set-visudo-to-use-a-different-editor-than-the-default-on-fedorahttp://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4408/how-to-set-visudo-to-use-a-different-editor-than-the-default-on-fedora
[16:03] <terminal_crawler> JakesDen: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/4408/how-to-set-visudo-to-use-a-different-editor-than-the-default-on-fedora
[16:04] <pr3c0g> Hi all
[16:04] <JakesDen> k
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> JakesDen  'why easy, if you can make it hard'?
[16:05] <JakesDen> ?
[16:05] <pr3c0g> can anyone help me with sound blaster cinema 2 ?
[16:07] <JakesDen> i edited the sudoers file but when i run apt it still says jake@jake:~$ apt-get install potato
[16:07] <JakesDen> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[16:07] <JakesDen> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[16:08] <ducasse> JakesDen: did you set the alias?
[16:08] <BluesKaj> pr3c0g:  what's the help you neeed with it/
[16:08] <pr3c0g> I recently switched to ubuntu from windows
[16:09] <JakesDen> no i just added t my sudoers file jake ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/apt, /usr/bin/apt-get
[16:09] <pr3c0g> I had sound blaster cinema 2 on windows, and it made a huge difference for me. I understand this doesn't exist in ubuntu (at least the software)
[16:09] <ducasse> JakesDen: that won't help, you still need the alias to actually run sudo.
[16:09] <JakesDen> k
[16:10] <pr3c0g> is there an alternative? Should I install it with Wine?
[16:10] <JakesDen> works now thanks
[16:11] <ducasse> JakesDen: it's still generally a BAD idea to do this.
[16:12] <JakesDen> I have a very strong password anyway
[16:13] <BluesKaj> pr3c0g:  open a terminal and type alsamixer, what chip is listed in the upper left?
[16:13] <ubuntu166> Hello, I'm having problems with encryption of data. I was trying to encrypt my entire Ubuntu installation on setup, but since I'm installing on an external hard drive, the option to "erase and install encrypted.." wasn't good since it would install on the main HDD.
[16:14] <JakesDen> I will also make sure i 100% trust what i am installing and who made and published it
[16:14] <JakesDen> Know any good books about using the terminal efficiently from ubuntu-mate
[16:14] <pr3c0g> realtek alc1150
[16:15] <ubuntu166> so I tried to check the "encrypt home folder" and then the installation took very long time, until it failed. Now I'm trying to activate the command " sudo apt-get install encryptfs-utils cryptsetup
[16:15] <ubuntu166> and it tells me that it can't find the package..
[16:16] <JakesDen> also any way to get amor for ubuntu 16.04 on the mate desktop environment
[16:16] <Amm0n> JakesDen, any program, script with jake's permission can install stuff that's out of your control this way
[16:17] <JakesDen> I will only run a script or program if i trust it as well
[16:20] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: okay. And probably you could tell me a few things i should try once it goes bad ?
[16:20] <Myrk> Hi guys, is there a dedicated room for CUPS issues or can I ask here ?
[16:22] <JakesDen> my laptop is getting so hot it is starting to hurt keeping it on my lap
[16:23] <JakesDen> now i guess i need my laptop cooler again
[16:23] <ubuntu166> anyone knows?
[16:23] <Myrk> JakesDen: have you tried cleaning the fan ?
[16:23] <JakesDen> the fan is clean
[16:24] <JakesDen> its a old dell latitude D620, it warms up quite quickly
[16:24] <codfection_> I have
[16:24] <codfection_> e6420
[16:24] <BluesKaj> pr3c0g:  this might help http://blog.coffeebeans.at/archives/896
[16:24] <codfection_> dell latitutde
[16:25] <JakesDen> know a program that will up the speed of its fan?
[16:25] <codfection_> msi
[16:25] <codfection_> afterburn
[16:25] <JakesDen> i use one on windows but i need one for ubuntu-mate
[16:26] <codfection_> ubuntu or mate
[16:26] <codfection_> which one
[16:26] <codfection_> both are different
[16:26] <ubuntu166> anyone knows why am i "unable to find a package" when I'm doing "sudo apt-get"?
[16:26] <codfection_> make sure ur internet is connected. ^
[16:26] <Myrk> Maybe your package doesn't exist on that repository
[16:27] <BluesKaj> !u
[16:27] <xangua> ubuntu166: sudo apt update, try again
[16:27] <ubuntu166> it is, i'm browsing this IRC from the Ubuntu install
[16:27] <JakesDen> i am using a distro called ubuntu mate
[16:27] <BluesKaj> mate is your desktop
[16:27] <BluesKaj> it's still ubuntu
[16:27] <JakesDen> ubuntu-mate.org
[16:28] <codfection_> JakesDen, why not default ubuntu?
[16:28] <BluesKaj> !flavors
[16:28] <JakesDen> i like mate desktop environment more
[16:28] <ubuntu166> it tells me : "245 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them."
[16:28] <pr3c0g> BluesKaj, I'll try that
[16:28] <codfection_> run ^ : sudo apt-get install all
[16:28] <xangua> JakesDen: are you saying that the overheat is normal in both windows and Linux?
[16:29] <ubuntu166> cannot find package "all"
[16:29] <JakesDen> ubuntu-mate.org
[16:29] <codfection_> unity is official by ubuntu.
[16:29] <ducasse> ubuntu166: 'sudo apt full-upgrade'
[16:29] <JakesDen> the laptop overheats on both
[16:29] <codfection_> run ^ : sudo apt-get full-install
[16:29] <xangua> codfection_: Ubuntu mate is part of the official Ubuntu family
[16:30] <ubuntu166> oh man, why is this so complicated.. but it seems to be "hard at work" now.
[16:30] <codfection_> xangua, I heard ubuntu unity is more supported by the rest
[16:30] <xangua> ubuntu166: it's just codfection_ giving bad advice
[16:30] <ubuntu166> the "full-upgrade" line worked
[16:31] <codfection_> cooll
[16:31] <BluesKaj> codfection_:  check your commands before posting them please
[16:31] <codfection_> sorry I dont use ubuntu mate
[16:31] <ducasse> ubuntu166: you probably should reboot afterwards, that was a lot of upgrades.
[16:31] <BluesKaj> doesn't matter the ubuntu commabds worjk for all flavours
[16:31] <ducasse> codfection_: apt-get install all wouldn't work anywhere
[16:32] <ubuntu166> ducasse: why isn't it's being done automatically by the OS/software update?
[16:32] <BluesKaj> commands even
[16:32] <ubuntu166> ducasse: why do I need to write a line of code to do it manually?..
[16:32] <JakesDen> i forgot to update in a while so now i have 258 updates to do
[16:32] <codfection_> coz its not OS X
[16:32] <codfection_> its linux I guess
[16:32] <ducasse> ubuntu166: the update manager should ask you, check it's settings
[16:33] <codfection_> Linus torvalds didnt want linux to be user friendly
[16:33] <xangua> codfection_: please stop
[16:34] <JakesDen> brb
[16:34] <codfection_> xangua, I am serious
[16:34] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: If it is going bad.
[16:34] <ducasse> codfection_: chat goes in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:34] <codfection_> I saw his interview
[16:34] <codfection_> alright
[16:35] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: what ?
[16:35] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: Writing it, sorry haha
[16:35] <ZeekHuge> okay :)
[16:36] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: I would check whether changing the resolution while it is still connected to something else, to see if it fixes it (without disconnecting the monitor)
[16:36] <BluesKaj> codfection_:  linus just looks after the kernel , he seldom uses a browser or a desktop
[16:36] <codfection_> ducasse, dont mind but I see everyone here talking offtopic mostly
[16:36] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: If it does, go back to the old resolution. If it is still having conniptions, something else is at play which I am unsure of.
[16:37] <rahul_kummi> into which directory should i generally extract the .tar.gz files to install an application.
[16:37] <Admin___> so, I installed xen in ubuntu, grub detects and runs xen, when it then prompts to run ubuntu, does it run virtualized, how can i find out?
[16:37] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: It might be a driver issue, but I don't know how drivers for external monitors work (I know with normal monitors).
[16:37] <bobby__> hi guys
[16:38] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: ahh .. okay, I even switched from lightdm to gdm, though I think it must not be the problem, but this was an accepted ans.
[16:38] <bobby__> i really want to contribute to open source project, but i feel i can't contribute.Please help me, give me some advice.Thank you !
[16:38] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: Actually, you could do that. Check using lspci -k, that should tell you the driver the monitor is using.
[16:38] <ZeekHuge> its intel
[16:38] <ZeekHuge> oh okay
[16:38] <OerHeks> rahul_kummi, a fresh empty folder in your /home/ will do fine
[16:38] <ZeekHuge> sorry that i986
[16:38] <ZeekHuge> I blv
[16:39] <ZeekHuge> let me checl
[16:39] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: This is starting to get into my "I need to Google" area haha
[16:39] <akik> Admin___: try xm info or xl info. if that returns info on dom0, you're running xen
[16:39] <OerHeks> !contribute
[16:40] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: its i915
[16:40] <ZeekHuge> but
[16:40] <rahul_kummi> guys can someone help
[16:40] <Admin___> akik, you mean running xen hypervisor in ubuntu host or running ubuntu as a guest on xen?
[16:40] <rahul_kummi> but when i ina
[16:40] <akik> Admin___: your question was "how to know if i'm running xen?"
[16:41] <ubuntu857> Sorry, the full upgrade of apt-get did not work. I can't still locate package called "encryptfs-utils".
[16:41] <rahul_kummi> OerHeks, but when i install using apt-get where would the file be extracted
[16:41] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17217814/
[16:41] <Admin___> akik, I mean if ubuntu is running virtualized in xen
[16:41] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: what about that second VGA thing ?
[16:41] <ducasse> rahul_kummi: apt-file list packagename
[16:42] <OerHeks> rahul_kummi, ohhh .. apt get installs the files in the place they need to be, no other action required
[16:42] <akik> Admin___: when you boot your xen hypervisor, you'll end up in xen's dom0. then when you create additional xen vms, they're domU
[16:42] <OerHeks> rahul_kummi, after install, the program is ready
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[16:42] <ZeekHuge> and terminal_crawler : http://paste.ubuntu.com/17217875/
[16:43] <Admin___> akik, when I run xen in grub, I just get a black screen with option to run ubuntu or ubuntu.efi. this is the only ubuntu on the system, where I installed xen from
[16:44] <akik> Admin___: yes, the ubuntu installation on top which you installed xen hypervisor is still ubuntu
[16:44] <rahul_kummi> what is the /opt/ directory earmarked for?
[16:45] <ducasse> rahul_kummi: 'optional'
[16:45] <OerHeks> rahul_kummi, /opt/ is for third-party applications that don't rely on any dependencies outside that folder
[16:45] <bernardo> is there any way to play a specific musical note using aplay?
[16:46] <ubuntu857> can anyone help? I can't still find the package "ecryptfs-utils "
[16:46] <Admin___> akik, I'm guessing if/when I install VM's using whichever tool, they will also show alongside ubuntu, so when I run xen from grub and then choose ubuntu, does ubuntu run virtualized on top of xen?
[16:46] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: And you said it was a Lenovo laptop, right?
[16:46] <pr3c0g> BluesKaj, I installed that package and rebooted
[16:46] <ubuntu857> when I'm using apt-get install..
[16:47] <oaulakh> why my microphone not working on ubuntu it's working just fine on windows but not on ubuntu
[16:47] <akik> Admin___: the ubuntu installation that you see boot on your hardware is called xen dom0
[16:47] <codfection> go
[16:47] <akik> Admin___: i suggest you go read some docs about it
[16:47] <ducasse> ubuntu857: try 'apt update'
[16:47] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: yeah .. lenovo thinkpad T430
[16:47] <pr3c0g> I would like to have a way to control bass, surround, and the other stuff sound blaster cinema 2 had (http://i.imgur.com/225XvAv.png)
[16:48] <pr3c0g> It's currently the only thing bothering me on Ubuntu / Linux
[16:48] <ubuntu857> ducasse: Tried it now, same result.
[16:48] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: I can't see a Dell laptop in that list.
[16:48] <coolstar-pc> what's a good hex editor that works well in KDE?
[16:48] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: It is currently working, correct?
[16:48] <ubuntu857> ducasse: I'm trying to run the line "sudo apt-get install ecryptfs-utils cryptsetup"
[16:49] <ubuntu857> ducasse: So I can encrypt my home folder
[16:49] <coolstar-pc> I can't seem to find oketa in the ubuntu repos :/
[16:49] <coolstar-pc> (I'm on kubuntu 16.04)
[16:49] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: The monitor is a Dell monitor
[16:49] <ZeekHuge> and yes working correctly
[16:50] <ZeekHuge> for now atleast
[16:50] <ducasse> ubuntu857: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list somewhere
[16:50] <na_> Hello! I installed Ubuntu but it not run :( Help please!
[16:51] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: I can see there is another controller there, the Nvidia graphics card.
[16:51] <coolstar-pc> ah, found it. was mispelling okteta as oketa
[16:51] <coolstar-pc> that's why it wasn't finding it -_-
[16:51] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: If you disconnect the monitor, do any of those lines dissappear?
[16:51] <na_> H E L P P L E A S E ! ! !
[16:51] <rahul_kummi> what are the purposes of /etc/ and /opt/ directories?
[16:51] <ducasse> na_: calm down!
[16:51] <na_> Whats partitions need create?
[16:52] <na_> Partitions by manual
[16:52] <ubuntu857> ducasse: http://pastebin.com/raw/PgZdv40N
[16:52] <OerHeks> !partitioning | na_
[16:52] <tgm4883> na_: minimally, the root partition /
[16:53] <ducasse> rahul_kummi: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[16:53] <tgm4883> rahul_kummi: run 'man hier'
[16:53] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: when monitor is not connected http://paste.ubuntu.com/17218329/
[16:53] <na_> I use LVM
[16:53] <Admin___> akik, I have, according to the image dom0 is virtualized http://wiki.xen.org/mediawiki/images/0/09/Xen_arch1.png
[16:53] <na_> I need /boot and / only!?
[16:53] <rahul_kummi> thank you tgm4883 andd ducasse
[16:53] <thauan> oi
[16:54] <akik> Admin___: "Dom0 is the initial domain started by the Xen hypervisor on boot. Dom0 is an abbrevation of "Domain 0" (sometimes written as "domain zero" or the "host domain"). Dom0 is a privileged domain that starts first and manages the DomU unprivileged domains."
[16:54] <ducasse> ubuntu857: will cryptsetup alone install?
[16:54] <ubuntu857> lets see.
[16:54] <BluesKaj> pr3c0g:  if you check alsamixer again you should see a seto f volume ctrls that you can navigate with the arrow keys. the updown arrow kwys are used for turning the volumes up or down and certain options on or off , any volumes that have MM in the box are muted and the automute is enabled by default , best to disable it with the doen arrow.
[16:54] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: I connected it back, and its still working ! :(
[16:55] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: Weird.
[16:55] <na_> What partitions Ubuntu create by automatic?
[16:55] <terminal_crawler> I looked at the pastebins, they are identical.
[16:55] <akik> Admin___: "The Xen hypervisor is not usable without Dom0. This is essentially the "host" operating system (or a "service console", if you prefer). As a result, Dom0 runs the Xen management toolstack, and has special privileges, like being able to access the hardware directly."
[16:55] <ubuntu857> ducasse: yes I think it did install
[16:55] <BluesKaj> pr3c0g:  to unmute use the M key
[16:56] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: I noticed that no kernel drivers are being loaded for the NVIDIA controller.
[16:56] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: That might be related.
[16:56] <ducasse> ubuntu857: now try ecryptfs-utils by itself
[16:56] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: See if this helps you: http://askubuntu.com/questions/393848/external-monitor-display-on-thinkpad-w520-with-12-04
[16:56] <na_> HEY&
[16:56] <ZeekHuge> I intentionally didi that setting so as to avoid over heating.
[16:56] <ubuntu857> ducasse: unable to locate package
[16:56] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: ^
[16:56] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: Ah okay.
[16:57] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: That may or may not be causing the monitor problem though, if the Intel chip can't handle it.
[16:57] <na_> faggots
[16:57] <Admin___> akik, does that mean I always have to boot dom0 before booting the other VM's?
[16:57] <ducasse> ubuntu857: there must be something wrong with your mirror, try another one and run apt update again before you try to install
[16:58] <ducasse> na_: language!
[16:58] <ubuntu857> ducasse: do i change a mirror in the system settings?
[16:58] <akik> Admin___: yes. please read the docs :)
[16:58] <ducasse> ubuntu857: 'software & updates', i think
[17:00] <ubuntu857> ducasse: tried to change to a different mirror, same result
[17:00] <ubuntu857> ducasse : plus ran apt update before trying to install
[17:00] <ubuntu857> ducasse : and after changing the mirror
[17:01] <terminal_crawler> ZeekHuge: Must fly. Best of luck and hopefully chat to you tomorrow.
[17:01] <ZeekHuge> terminal_crawler: okay . Thank you :) sure
[17:01] <ducasse> ubuntu857: make sure you type ecryptfs-utils again, don't use the history.
[17:02] <JasonSome> hi!!
[17:03] <JasonSome> a question: why do I have a /etc/cron.d/jffnms file even though I have never installed jffnms (from what I remember at least!)? Is it installed by default on Ubuntu 16.04?
[17:03] <ubuntu857> ducasse: I did what you said, but it's the same result.
[17:03] <ubuntu857> ducasse: even when I manually retyped it again.
[17:03] <ubuntu857> ok wait
[17:03] <ubuntu857> damn
[17:03] <ubuntu857> I found a typo
[17:04] <Bashing-om> !info jffnms
[17:04] <ubuntu857> oh god
[17:04] <ducasse> ubuntu857: ah. :)
[17:04] <ubuntu857> I typed "encrypt-fs" instead of "ecrypt-fs". What a mistake just waiting to happen. what is "ecrypt" anwyays?!
[17:05] <JasonSome> can I view whether it was installed some time and removed another time?
[17:05] <NoobFan> Hi,, is is it possible to resize the disk in ubuntu
[17:05] <ducasse> ubuntu857: it's just a name. there is also something called encfs.
[17:06] <ubuntu857> ducasse: Basically, I tried to encrypt my entire HDD at installation, BUT I'm installing on external HDD, so the option of erasing everything and installing with the default settings was probably not good since it would install on the main HDD and not on the external HDD by default
[17:06] <Bashing-om> JasonSome: The log file /var/log/dpkg may give some hints .
[17:06] <ducasse> ubuntu857: you could have used manual partitioning.
[17:07] <ubuntu857> ducasse: Then I picked "encrypt my home folder" at the ubuntu setup. And when I did that the setup took 10x longer than usual, and afterwards said it failed to install
[17:07] <JasonSome> Bashing-om: That file is soooo big. How can I search it for a string without opening it?
[17:07] <\9> NoobFan: you'll need to use a live session for that. you can't resize the partition currently being used
[17:07] <JasonSome> (I mean without opening it in gedit)
[17:07] <ubuntu857> ducasse: I can use manual parittioning for installing plain-text ubuntu, but how can I force it to encrypt everything on the extternal HDD?
[17:08] <ubuntu857> ducasse: I'm using manual partioning already in order to install it on the HDD
[17:08] <ubuntu857> on the external HDD
[17:08] <ducasse> ubuntu857: i know you can use the server installer, not that familiar with the desktop installer. but now you can just run ecryptfs-migrate-home
[17:09] <ducasse> ubuntu857: but read the man page first!
[17:09] <OerHeks> " to encrypt everything " will be an option during install ubuntu857
[17:09] <ubuntu857> OerHeks: No it wasn't an option when I did the manual partioning..
[17:09] <ducasse> OerHeks: yes, but on an alternative drive?
[17:09] <ubuntu857> ducasse: Is it problematic that I used "apt-get full-upgrade" ? did viruses get inserted this way?
[17:09] <ducasse> ubuntu857: no.
[17:10] <ubuntu857> ducasse : how can viruses can get hold of ubuntu then - from where?
[17:10] <ubuntu857> ducasse: When I installed ubuntu it asked if I allow to install third party software to enable wireless and MP3 and etc. I refused since I thought maybe there is virus in one of these third parties..
[17:11] <Bashing-om> JasonSome: When one does ' apt-cache depends jffnms ' and apt-cache rdepends jffnms ' one sees that a likely candidate is php and.or mysql . Does that help ?
[17:11] <OerHeks> installing on an ext hdd .. be carefull to select the ext hdd for grub bootloader
[17:12] <ducasse> ubuntu857: that's not a problem with packages from the repos.
[17:12] <OerHeks> when something foes other than planned, it must be a ubuntu-virus
[17:12] <ubuntu857> ducasse: By packages, do you mean "third party software" such as wireless drivers and MP3 codecs?
[17:13] <Matumaros> Hi, I need some help installing the newest Ubuntu, I have multiple issues
[17:13] <ducasse> ubuntu857: even those, yes. as long as they are in the ubuntu repos they should be clean.
[17:13] <JasonSome> ubuntu-virus? such things exist???
[17:14] <ubuntu857> ducasse: Thanks for all your help, but I have a nagging feeling it won't be the last time I will need help in this evening.
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> a virus? exciting! source?
[17:14] <Bashing-om> !virus | JasonSome
[17:14] <ducasse> ubuntu857: you are welcome, but i'll be logging off soon :)
[17:14] <OerHeks> JasonSome, sure, addictive users got it.
[17:16] <oaulakh> why my microphone not working on ubuntu it's working just fine on windows but not on ubuntu
[17:16] <chicken> where can I find the online install? i can only use CD-ROM.
[17:17] <OerHeks> chicken, the mini iso fits on cd, it is a netinstaller ( wired network required)
[17:17] <OerHeks> !mini
[17:18] <chicken> OerHeks: hmm so no WIFI?
[17:18] <chicken> so I'm better off getting DVDs and do that right?
[17:18] <OerHeks> chicken, indeed, as there is no 'live environment' to install so
[17:18] <chicken> ok
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> chicken  wifi needs to be configured, cable does not (and it is faster and more stable)
[17:19] <nedstark> oaulakh, try using pulse audio volume control, pavucontrol, to change the mic source
[17:19] <OerHeks> chicken, or USB stick?
[17:19] <chicken> i do have a USB stick yeah
[17:19] <esiodos> hola buenas tardes
[17:19] <esiodos> que tal
[17:19] <esiodos> a todos
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> !es
[17:19] <Bashing-om> chicken: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/xenial/ . Not for the faint at heart to do a minimal install . And correct. all that you have is a wired connection .
[17:21] <Matumaros> I have a 1TB HDD and a 16GB SSD, can I install it so 38 MB are used for efi (/dev/sdb1), the rest of the 16 GB for root on /dev/sdb2 (ext4) and on the HDD 8522 MB for swap and the rest for /home?
[17:21] <codfection> Anonymous
[17:22] <codfection> Matumaros, why dont u select auto select to let ubuntu select for ya.
[17:22] <oaulakh> nedstark, pavucontrol not exist
[17:22] <Matumaros> codefection: because it totally ignores the SSD
[17:22] <EriC^^_> Matumaros: yes, you can
[17:22] <Matumaros> *codfection, sorry for mispelling
[17:22] <EriC^^_> Matumaros: choose Something else in the installer, and manually partition
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> codfection  don't say 'u' and 'ya', use proper English
[17:23] <Matumaros> EriC^^_ thanks
[17:23] <OerHeks> Matumaros, is this a 1Tb hdd/16gb ssd duplo drive? where the 16gb supposed to be a cache?
[17:23] <codfection> MonkeyDust, is that a rule?
[17:23] <hid|ninja> MonkeyDust: shakespear used u
[17:23] <Bashing-om> Matumaros: The system had Windows originally (still) and the SSD is a raid device to assist in "fast startup " of Windows ?
[17:23] <Matumaros> OerHeks: I don't remember what they were supposed to do, I just thought it's a good idea to install the system on it
[17:24] <codfection> Perhaps focusing on solutions rather than few mis spells would fulfill purpose of this support irc.
[17:25] <nedstark> oaulakh, you could install it and see if it works, i've usually had better luck with pavucontrol than other apps
[17:26] <Matumaros> Bashing-om: The system had Windows7, then I upgraded it to 8, then installed Debian and now tried several times to install Ubuntu
[17:26] <Matumaros> My computer is a Acer Aspire G3620
[17:27] <codfection> Matumaros, was it utilizing the 16 gb ssd on debian?
[17:28] <Matumaros> codfection: I don't think so, Debian offered an advanced option that the Ubuntu install doesn't
[17:29] <codfection> did you see an option of 16 gb ssd there?
[17:29] <Matumaros> like a "set it up with /home, /tmp, /usr or something like that
[17:30] <oaulakh> nedstark, package not found
[17:30] <Matumaros> codfection: I didn't format it on my own, I let the installer do it. Originally I thought I had two HDD's of the same size which were 1 TB in total
[17:30] <codfection> so do the same for ubuntu
[17:30] <Matumaros> Can I put all the partitions on Primary?
[17:30] <codfection> just out of curiosity, why u wanna switch from debian to ubuntu?
[17:30] <codfection> yup. you can
[17:31] <Matumaros> codfection: It didn't work too well on the computer and I want to install newer software (which the Debian community doesn't seem to understand)
[17:31] <codfection> well, ubuntu is based on debiam
[17:31] <codfection> debian*
[17:32] <codfection> so versions are pretty much similar/same
[17:32] <codfection> !latest
[17:32] <nedstark> oaulakh, there's a link to it on this page, you should be able to install it from software center https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/pavucontrol/
[17:32] <Matumaros> codfection: yeah I know, as far as I understand (maybe I'm wrong) is that there are more frequent releases of Ubuntu and the "noob" amount is bigger, so ideal for me :P
[17:33] <codfection> !reading
[17:33] <Matumaros> Back to the formatting: Both root (/) and home (/home) need to be ext4, right?
[17:34] <codfection> !google
[17:34] <BluesKaj> Matumaros:  yes
[17:34] <codfection> !version
[17:34] <Matumaros> Hey BluesKaj, didn't you help me last time?
[17:34] <ducasse> Matumaros: not at all, you can use any supported fs.
[17:34] <BluesKaj> Matumaros:  well, I tried ;-)
[17:35] <Guy1524> guys, the game Rust, which is a unity game, runs faster on my windows installation.  And this happens with many games.  What things are causing this games to run faster on windows.  I have an nvidia GTX 960 with proprietary drivers, and from what i have heard they are really up to par w/ the windows ones.  And if it is OpenGL, why is openGL slower than directX?
[17:35] <BluesKaj> ducasse:  let's not go there
[17:35] <ducasse> BluesKaj: :)
[17:35] <Guy1524> *Direct3D
[17:35] <codfection> Guy1524, which laptop is that
[17:36] <Matumaros> Device for boot loader installation should be the efi one, right?
[17:36] <Matumaros> or /dev/sdb (which is the SSD)?
[17:36] <ducasse> Matumaros: efi system partition on an uefi system.
[17:37] <Guy1524> codfection: its a desktop with an evga gtx 960
[17:38] <codfection> I know very less users of linux on desktop
[17:38] <codfection> cant help you there, sorry.
[17:38] <BluesKaj> less =few
[17:38] <codfection> BluesKaj, english is not my native language. but yea thanks for correcting me
[17:39] <Guy1524> im not asking for help specifically with my machine, I just would like to know why game generally always seem to perform better on windows
[17:39] <Bashing-om> Matumaros: EriC^^_ is our guru of booting . I will defer to his advise in this situation . However, what returns from the live installer "sudo wipefs /dev/sda". Note that you should not just trust me that that command is safe (even though it is), you should run "man wipefs" and confirm for yourself that the command will just list all visible filesystems (and in this case, RAID metadata) .
[17:39] <BluesKaj> cod too many users confuse less and few , i have fewer dollars but less money
[17:39] <codfection> Guy1524, my guess would be that linux/gnu is not a mainstream OS for gamers.
[17:39] <BluesKaj> codfection: ^
[17:40] <codfection> BluesKaj, thanks. will remember:)
[17:40] <tgm4883> Guy1524: sounds like the game isn't optimized for linux
[17:41] <Matumaros> Bashing-om: I don't understand what you mean, sorry :(
[17:41] <codfection> Matumaros, thats why I love linux. lots of technical stuff opens up
[17:42] <jkhl> Is it possible to save the state of processes to reload on reboot in Ubuntu/Mint? I'm about to try this way: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30931/how-do-i-make-a-program-auto-start-every-time-i-log-in , just wondering if anyone had success with another way.
[17:42] <ducasse> Matumaros: the bootloader goes on the efi partition if the system boots in uefi mode.
[17:42] <codfection> !simple
[17:42] <codfection> !simplicity
[17:43] <Bashing-om> Matumaros: In installing ubuntu .. IF the SSD has raid meta data on it as an aid to Windows .. the desktop installer does not have the tools available to cope with raid .
[17:43] <codfection> !life
[17:43] <Matumaros> ducasse: I'm not sure it does, it has uefi, but I might have disabled that when installing debian, the issue is that I don't get back into that BIOS menu anymore :(
[17:43] <tgm4883> codfection: can you not play with the bot in the channel
[17:44] <codfection> tgm4883, how to find the list of !?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> codfection:  don't clutter the chat bot infor that isn't required by anyone
[17:44] <tgm4883> codfection: https://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[17:44] <jkhl> I mean it's possible but is there a working feature for that?
[17:44] <codfection> BluesKaj, sorry I am pretty new to this irc stuff
[17:44] <codfection> thanks
[17:44] <ducasse> Matumaros: in that case it most likely is, and you can set a variable to access the menu on the next boot from ubuntu.
[17:45] <Matumaros> After installing Ubuntu for the last times I always got the message "Please insert bootable device" or something like that
[17:46] <Matumaros> usually I got into BIOS by pressing F2, but that doesn't work
[17:46] <Matumaros> now I'm entering by pressing del, but that menu looks very different than the other one
[17:46] <Matumaros> Installation is done, I'm restarting now
[17:47] <bernardo> how can I make ubuntu say stuff
[17:48] <Matumaros> Alright, now I'm getting the message "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key"
[17:48] <Matumaros> I tried the help on this website: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:49] <Velveeta_Chef> UEFI secure boot still on?
[17:49] <Matumaros> I created a bootable CD (because I don't have a USB stick that I could use right now and I have masses of CD's) but it's not booting from that
[17:49] <Tin_man> bernardo, try this link
[17:49] <Tin_man> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/espeak-gui/
[17:49] <Matumaros> Velveeta_Chef: highly unlikely, I disabled secure boot with Debian
[17:49] <Matumaros> How can I get back into the BIOS menu?
[17:50] <Velveeta_Chef> what platform?
[17:50] <ioria> bernardo, orca
[17:50] <Velveeta_Chef> for Dell it's usually F2
[17:50] <Matumaros> Velveeta_Chef: it's a Acer Aspire G3620
[17:50] <Matumaros> it is F2 for as well, but it doesn't work
[17:50] <Matumaros> it worked before
[17:50] <Matumaros> now only the del key works, but that is a different menu
[17:51] <tgm4883> Matumaros: it's worth noting that if F2 worked before then it should still work. Installing Ubuntu doesn't affect that
[17:52] <Matumaros> tgm4883: well, but it doesn't
[17:52] <Velveeta_Chef> When I was installing Ubuntu on my Dell laptop I noticed sometimes hitting F2 during a reboot wouldn't work, I would need to do a shut down, wait a few seconds, and then power up
[17:52] <tgm4883> Matumaros: well ok, but there's nothing Ubuntu could do to stop that from working
[17:52] <Matumaros> Velveeta_Chef: I rebooted a million times by now, over the course of a week or so
[17:52] <hexafraction> Hello all, I currently have a non-working Ubuntu installation mounted on a Ubuntu VM in /media/{user}/{uuid}, and I need to somehow find the list of PCI devices and their bus IDs on the physical machine. Is there any log file where that info may have gotten dumped?
[17:53] <ducasse> hexafraction: dmesg or kern.log, maybe?
[17:53] <hexafraction> ducasse, I'm looking now. Thanks
[17:54] <glass> anyone running ubuntu-mate 16.10?
[17:54] <ducasse> glass: #ubuntu+1
[17:54] <glass> nice thanks ducasse
[17:55] <Matumaros> Can somebody help me fix it booting rather than showing the message "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key"?
[17:55] <Matumaros> I don't know what to do, I'm so frustrated by this :(
[17:56] <bernardo> how can I giggle ubuntu?
[17:56] <ducasse> Matumaros: you might have turned on csm, so that you need to  install in legacy mode.
[17:56] <bernardo> is there any way to abort a child with ubuntu?
[17:56] <tgm4883> bernardo: completely off topic
[17:57] <ducasse> Matumaros: you can boot a live image and see if /sys/var/efivars exists
[17:57] <hexafraction> ducasse, took a bit of grepping but I found exactly what I need. Thank you so much.
[17:57] <bernardo> Matumaros: I suppose you could always try MD5 hashing the whole thing
[17:58] <ducasse> hexafraction: np.
[17:59] <Matumaros> ducasse: I'll try that
[17:59] <Guest58574> curious 1) what pid is kernel modules at  2) can you uses gdb to attach to a kernel module or do you need kgdb a kernel level debugger for that
[17:59] <ducasse> Matumaros: /sys/firmware/efivars, sorry.
[18:00] <ducasse> Matumaros: /sys/firmware/efi/efivars - dang :)
[18:01] <Matumaros> ducasse: are you done yet? :P
[18:01] <Matumaros> it takes a while to boot
[18:01] <ducasse> Matumaros: if you get 'no such file or directory' you are in legacy mode. if it exists and contains entries you are in uefi mode.
[18:03] <Matumaros> ducasse: as soon as it's done loading, right now I just have a black screen, but my computer is working on something
[18:04] <ducasse> Matumaros: select 'try ubuntu' instead of 'install' if you are booting the installer.
[18:04] <Matumaros> ducasse: I did, it just took a while
[18:05] <bst1> I just made an upgrade from ubuntu 15.10 to ubuntu 16.04. and i got this error secure boot violation after which i disabled secure boot, but now I get the eroor drm intel_pipe_config_compare *error*mismacth in ips_enabled. kindly help
[18:06] <Matumaros> ducasse: I am in efivars now, so it exists
[18:06] <Matumaros> there are lots of files in there
[18:07] <bst1> I just made an upgrade from ubuntu 15.10 to ubuntu 16.04. and i got this error secure boot violation after which i disabled secure boot, but now I get the eroor drm intel_pipe_config_compare *error*mismacth in ips_enabled. kindly help.
[18:08] <Matumaros> ducasse: what now?
[18:09] <ducasse> Matumaros: ok, then you are definitely in uefi mode. in that case you should just install and make sure your firmware has the right boot device set.
[18:09] <Matumaros> ducasse: I already installed, I had selected the partition for efi
[18:10] <Matumaros> to boot
[18:10] <ducasse> Matumaros: then check the boot device in the firmware.
[18:11] <Matumaros> ducasse: how do I do that?
[18:11] <ducasse> Matumaros: in the 'bios'.
[18:11] <Matumaros> ducasse: you mean the bios that I can't reach :)
[18:11] <ducasse> Matumaros: egg-sactly ;)
[18:12] <Matumaros> ducasse: so how do I do that? :P
[18:12] <Guest58574> well i tried debugging a .ko file objdump tells me its a recognizable elf binary but gdb test.ko  gives me error
[18:12] <Guest58574> cannot execute binary file: Exec format error
[18:12] <ducasse> Matumaros: no clue. i would call acer (it was acer, right?) support or email them.
[18:13] <Matumaros> ducasse: I suspect that it would allow me into BIOS after that message is gone
[18:13] <ducasse> Matumaros: there is supposed to be an efi variable you can set to re-enable this, but i can't remember what it's called.
[18:15] <Guest58574> i chmod 777 of the .ko file so its not permissions i don't think why is it not recognizing the format. maybe you cann't gdb .ko's but if you insmod then can you attach to them for debugging? Gdb allowed me to set break points at init_module but when i run it all hell breaks loses
[18:16] <Matumaros> ducasse: I'll look if I can find something on google, I'm not really thrilled to call a support...
[18:16] <Guest58574> maybe the only way is thru insmod and there is no way with out a kernel debugger to attach to it . Don't know anybody
[18:18] <ducasse> Matumaros: try emailing them.
[18:20] <Matumaros> ducasse: if you scroll down to acer in this article: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/enter-bios-computer/ then you can see that F2 and del are apparently the same
[18:21] <Matumaros> it also shows that F10 might reset it, should I try that?
[18:22] <ducasse> Matumaros: i can't answer that, not familiar with acer.
[18:23] <Matumaros> ducasse: oh wait, maybe I can check for the boot device, where would that usually be?
[18:23] <Bashing-om> Matumaros: Siopervisory password apply ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2322306&highlight=Acer+Aspire+boot .
[18:23] <foormea> hi. can anyone think of a way to activate virtualisation in bios/uefi with no access to a screen? is there a way to write bios/uefi settings from linux with uefi/hybrid efi mobos?
[18:24] <ducasse> foormea: does the system have ipmi?
[18:25] <Matumaros> Bashing-om: I'm not sure if that applies to my issue, because I don't just see a black screen
[18:25] <foormea> not sure what that is, let me read up on it
[18:25] <ducasse> foormea: remote bios access, among other things.
[18:25] <Matumaros> ducasse: did you mean that I should check from which device it boots first?
[18:26] <Bashing-om> Matumaros: Post #3 in the above link .. maybe ?
[18:26] <ducasse> Matumaros: yes, see which device the bios tries to boot from and set it to wherever you installed.
[18:27] <foormea> ducasse, pretty sure i don't have ipmi
[18:28] <ducasse> foormea: then you need a screen.
[18:28] <foormea> :/
[18:28] <foormea> ok ty
[18:29] <Aeacus> o/
[18:29] <Matumaros> ducasse: I just changed some things around and was able to select where to boot from when started
[18:30] <Aeacus> I'm getting an error "error while loading shared library ../libldap_r-2.4.so.2: invalid ELF header" when trying to run kodi; any ideas?
[18:30] <Matumaros> ducasse: the only thing I was able to select was "UEFI: SanDisk SSD P4 16GB"
[18:30] <dracconi> Xorg (nVidia drivers) crashes after install 331 :(
[18:30] <Aeacus> Usually I don't even get an image at all and have to ssh in
[18:30] <Matumaros> after which I get the same message again
[18:30] <Matumaros> Bashing-om: I'm not sure, I don't want to play around with it too much if there is an easier solution
[18:31] <ducasse> Matumaros: then the efi partition needs to be on that disk.
[18:31] <Bashing-om> Matumaros: As you are booting to the EFI partition you now have a different issue .
[18:32] <ducasse> Matumaros: you can use efibootmgr to point the firmware to wherever the efi partition and bootloader is.
[18:32] <Matumaros> Bashing-om: what do you mean?
[18:33] <Bashing-om> Matumaros: Prior .. could not boot at all .. now you at least get to the point of looking for the boot code .
[18:33] <TheSinding> Hi guys, I have a couple of questions, I have just now installed ubuntu server with encrypted lvm, how do I add the rest of my drives to this encrypted lvm, so the become encrypted aswell
[18:33] <TheSinding> I know its something to do with VG and PV
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> TheSinding  there's also #ubuntu-server
[18:33] <ducasse> TheSinding: first encrypt them, then setup lvm on top of that.
[18:33] <Matumaros> Bashing-om: I don't see how I'm any further, I just enabled Boot Menu and disabled Quiet Boot, to see what happens
[18:34] <Gallomimia> TheSinding: to encrypt a drive, first you must erase it.
[18:34] <dracconi> guys, anyone have solution to blank screen after installing nvidia-331 on hybrid card (14.04)?
[18:34] <Gallomimia> so, copy the data somewhere else, or set up an encrypted drive and copy it to there, then scrub the old drive
[18:34] <Matumaros> ducasse: how do I do that?
[18:34] <TheSinding> But do i have to enter the passpharse for each drive, when i want to open it? or is it gonna be opened with the main drive then ?
[18:35] <foormea> isn't it safe to set up lvm and just encrypt a /home partition ?
[18:35] <ducasse> Matumaros: the installer should do it for you automatically, if it gets it wrong you need to do it manually. i would try to reinstall now that it boots properly.
[18:36] <Matumaros> BTW, Boot Priority Order is [Remavable Device], [CD&DVD], [Hard Disk: UEFI: SanD...] and [LAN], I also tried to switch them around
[18:36] <ducasse> Matumaros: i don't have time to help you with efibootmgr, logging off soon, so you would need to read the documentation.
[18:36] <Matumaros> ducasse: nothing has changed, it still is exactly the same as before
[18:37] <ducasse> Matumaros: i thought you said you set it to ssd?
[18:37] <Matumaros> ducasse, Bashing-om: btw, I don't mean to be rude, I'm just very frustrated :/
[18:37] <ducasse> Matumaros: np.
[18:37] <Matumaros> ducasse: no, that was the option of what I could select to boot
[18:39] <Matumaros> ducasse: so what you are saying that I should get efibootmgr on a CD? and then boot that and install it?
[18:39] <ducasse> Matumaros: ok. in that case read this - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface#efibootmgr - you might want to look at the rest of the page also.
[18:39] <ducasse> Matumaros: efibootmgr comes with ubuntu.
[18:39] <Matumaros> ducasse: oh, phew :)
[18:40] <Matumaros> thanks, I will read it
[18:40] <Matumaros> thanks so much for your help
[18:40] <ducasse> Matumaros: if you can pastebin the output of 'sudo efibootmgr -v' i can take a quick look.
[18:41] <Matumaros> ducasse: that is the next issue...I don't have working internet, I have a USB WiFi adapter which doesn't work out of the box
[18:41] <Fiki> Can somebody recommend some good PDF software and scanning software, it's the area I feel I really can't find comparable software to say windows :P
[18:41] <Matumaros> ducasse: also, presumably I should do these things in the live version?
[18:42] <ducasse> Matumaros: live version, yes. basically what you want to do is create an efi entry that points to where grub is installed.
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> Fiki  easyscan and xsane are popular
[18:43] <Matumaros> ducasse: you really have faith in me to do that alone? :P
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> Fiki  make that 'simple scan', not easyscan
[18:44] <ducasse> Matumaros: if you read the documentation _carefully_ you should be fine :) hang on, i'll give you an example.
[18:44] <Matumaros> ducasse: that is exactly the issue, my attention span when reading is very small :P
[18:47] <ducasse> Matumaros: "efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sda -p 1 -l '\EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi'" - where /dev/sda is the disk where the efi partition is, -p 1 means it is the first partition.
[18:47] <ducasse> Matumaros: that's really all there is to it.
[18:48] <Fiki> MonkeyDust, nvm just found VueScan exists for linux!
[18:48] <Matumaros> ducasse: oh :) how does it count the partitions?
[18:48] <ducasse> Matumaros: the way linux does. /dev/sda3 would be '-d /dev/sda -p 3'
[18:49] <dracconi> guys, anyone have solution to blank screen after installing nvidia-331 on hybrid card (14.04)? I need to make this working...
[18:49] <Matumaros> I see, so for me it would probably be  "efibootmgr -c -d /dev/sdb -p 1 -l '\EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi'"
[18:49] <Matumaros> @ducasse
[18:50] <ducasse> Matumaros: i'd guess so, yes. you can check with lsblk.
[18:52] <Bashing-om> dracconi: How do you know that the 331 version is correct for your card(s) ?
[18:52] <dracconi> Bashing-om: I read that. I have nVidia GF 645M + Intel HD
[18:54] <dracconi> Bashing-om: but ubuntu use (when i install 331) 340
[18:54] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Pastebin ' lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' ' and I will match the driver for the reported hardware .
[18:54] <Matumaros> ducasse: that outputs "BootCurrent; 0004", "Timeout: 2seconds", "BootOrder: 0005, 0004, 0003, 0001, 0000, 0002", "Boot0000 Windows Boot Manager", "Boot0001* debian", "Boot0002 ubuntu", "Boot0003* UEFI: SanDisk SSD P4 16GB", "Boot0004* UEFI: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH82N" and "Boot0005* Linux"
[18:55] <dracconi> Bashing-om: http://hastebin.com/alijeneqif.css
[18:57] <ducasse> Matumaros: 'sudo efibootmgr -n 0002'
[18:57] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Nope .. Nvidia recommends the 361 version : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/103306/en-us . So next is what have you done that must be undone in order to install the driver ?
[18:57] <Matumaros> ducasse: I shut down again :/
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> Fiki  i was going to advise vuescan too, but forgot the name
[18:57] <Matumaros> ducasse: I'm restarting live mode now
[18:57] <dracconi> Bashing-om: you think it will work?
[18:58] <ducasse> Matumaros: also, 'sudo efibootmgr -a 0002'. run those two commands, reboot, and you should be in ubuntu.
[18:58] <Matumaros> ducasse: I'm not religious, but I pray :D
[18:59] <Bashing-om> Well .., nothing like matching the proper driver to the hardware .. be aware that 14.04 does not have that driver in the repo . If you choose to go this route . will require our trusted PPA for the 361 version driver .
[18:59] <Matumaros> ducasse: it doesn't matter that I restarted, right?
[19:00] <Chris55> I can't connect to the Internet with a fresh install of 16.04 desktop.  Can anyone help me?
[19:00] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Sorry ^^ .
[19:01] <ducasse> Matumaros: no, just run both commands when the system is back up.
[19:02] <ducasse> Matumaros: on my system i will get a menu of which os to boot (except i only have ubuntu :) if i press f8 while booting, yours should have something similar as it's part of the uefi specs.
[19:02] <Bashing-om> dracconi: For your added consideration; what returns ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' .
[19:03] <dracconi> Bashing-om: i will say sth - 304 not working ;p
[19:04] <dracconi> Bashing-om: nvidia-304
[19:04] <dracconi> nvidia-340-updates
[19:04] <dracconi> nvidia-355
[19:04] <dracconi> nvidia-304-updates
[19:04] <dracconi> nvidia-340
[19:04] <dracconi> nvidia-358
[19:04] <dracconi> nvidia-352
[19:04] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Uh Huh .. I can believe that .. old driver .. new hardware .
[19:04] <Matumaros> ducasse: ok, on the second command it says "You must specify a boot entry to activate (see the -b option"
[19:05] <ducasse> Matumaros: '-b 0002 -a'
[19:05] <ioria> !info nvidia-358
[19:05] <Bashing-om> dracconi: So, back to : what have you done that we must  now undone to install a current driver ?
[19:06] <Matumaros> ducasse: ok, I'm restarting
[19:06] <dracconi> Bashing-om: actually i tried to install some drivers, but actually... Every driver worked till the reboot.
[19:06] <Matumaros> ducasse: didn't work :(
[19:06] <dracconi> Bashing-om: here you have full http://hastebin.com/itogahemis.hs
[19:07] <ducasse> Matumaros: what happens when you reboot?
[19:07] <Matumaros> ducasse: the exact same thing as before
[19:07] <Matumaros> ducasse: "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key"
[19:07] <ioria> dracconi, can you paste apt-cache policy nvidia-358 ?
[19:08] <dracconi> ioria: http://hastebin.com/yahepoxaro.sm
[19:08] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Ubderstandable .. as what is loaded will be what is .. until the reboot .// OK to get just a glimmer of the situation . what returns in a pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?
[19:08] <mib_mib> hi all - i have some servers rented in a datacenter running ubuntu 14.04 and running a mysql server - when i run cat  /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor -> powersave ; is this recommended to run powersave at all if i dont pay for power? will it extend any life of the cpu or otherwise?
[19:09] <dracconi> Bashing-om: http://hastebin.com/uyijakotog.vhdl
[19:09] <mib_mib> or should i switch this to performance mode?
[19:09] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Look'n at th last .. and in the list of available drivers is cutting edge drivers from "some" PPA .. we will need to know that source .
[19:09] <ducasse> Matumaros: ok, sorry. i'm not really sure what to suggest then, as i've really got to go. i would guess there is something wrong either in the bios setup or in how ubuntu is installed.
[19:10] <Matumaros> ducasse: thanks anyway :)
[19:10] <ducasse> Matumaros: probably the latter.
[19:10] <dracconi> Bashing-om: i think its from graphic-drivers ppa
[19:10] <Matumaros> ducasse: I will try to reinstall as it is recommended
[19:10] <ducasse> Matumaros: sorry i couldn't get it working, but things are getting kind of busy here :)
[19:10] <dracconi> Bashing-om: installed by nvidia-current
[19:11] <Matumaros> ducasse: don't worry, I appreciate that you took so much time for me :)
[19:11] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Presently you do have a driver conflict . OK sources .. what returns ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[19:12] <ducasse> Matumaros: you're welcome :) you might want to try installing from the server image, i feel it gives better control, and you get a log on virtual console number 4.
[19:12] <dracconi> Bashing-om: long list... http://hastebin.com/ojuvewaruq.coffee
[19:12] <Bashing-om> dracconi: K .. be back shortly .. reading .
[19:16] <ioria> dracconi, have you tried the drivers suggested by ubuntu-drivers list before adding ppa ?
[19:16] <dracconi> ioria: to be honest, i didnt know that - i'm new in linux
[19:17] <alanclark5> hi channel
[19:17] <ioria> dracconi, well, before adding a ppa , you first try them (in dash you type Additional drivers)
[19:18] <dracconi> ioria: so you suggest to install 361?
[19:19] <OerHeks> dracconi, so you actually run elementary-os :-D
[19:19] <Chris55> I need help with Internet connection.  Fresh install of 16.04 desktop does not work.  I can ping the network card but not the router or 8.8.8.8
[19:19] <ioria> dracconi, your list has been altered by the ppa
[19:19] <dracconi> OerHeks: nope, this is just desktop
[19:19] <dracconi> ioria: simplier please?
[19:20] <ioria> dracconi, if you install 352, for example, you'll get it form ppa , not from the ubuntu repo
[19:20] <ioria> *from
[19:20] <dracconi> ioria: ok...
[19:21] <des_consolado> Hey I just installed python-pip and pip -V shows it's version 1.5.6 from python 2.7 :( is pip for python 3 not on the repositories?
[19:21] <Bashing-om> dracconi: PK. now .. with that many PPAs .. there is a 40 GPG limit .. how many keys do you have ' ls /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d | wc -l ' . Then we return to cleanup .
[19:22] <dracconi> Bashing-om: 32
[19:23] <des_consolado> oh it's python3-pip, got it
[19:24] <Bashing-om> dracconi: K, a bit of room there . Now what are you running .. as elemetary is not supported here .. there are difference we can not adjust to . show ' lsb_release -a ' .
[19:24] <dracconi> Bashing-om: it shows eOS, but its only the desktop :(
[19:25] <dracconi> Bashing-om: is this possible to make eOS ubuntu, which is my os?
[19:25] <Bashing-om> ioria: IRT dracconi and elemetary; what say you ? Should we proceed in this ?
[19:26] <ioria> Bashing-om, you're on top of me
[19:29] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Well ,, it is ubuntu repo, so I guess we can proceed . Let's try ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ; sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt install nvidia-361 nvidia-prime ; sudo shutdown -r now ' . See what results when you come back up .
[19:30] <dracconi> Bashing-om: i want to ask one think before i proceed - is deleting xorg.conf harmless
[19:31] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Required .. and it may be corrupt .. and will not match the new driver .. A new file "should" be created upon the driver install .
[19:31] <ioria> dracconi, you can back up it instead of delete  mv it
[19:31] <dracconi> ioria: sooo...
[19:31] <dracconi> Bashing-om: what i have to do when it crash?
[19:32] <ioria> dracconi, mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.back
[19:32] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Positive think'n .. not going to crash .. if it does .. we boot to terminal ( no GUI ) and find out why .
[19:33] <ioria> dracconi, if you set in there some custom configs... if not, no worries
[19:33] <dracconi> Bashing-om: and another question - will it be solved in 30 mins?
[19:34] <dracconi> Bashing-om: i need to do these cmds in tty?
[19:34] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Best ask the driver Gods that one .. who knows til we try and see what results " and then !
[19:34] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to run a local instance of MySQL and PHPMyAdmin, but I get this error when I do `sudo dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin`: " mysql: [Warning] mysql: Empty value for 'port' specified. Will throw an error in future versions ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) ."  Any tips?
[19:34] <BlueProtoman> On Ubuntu 16.04, that is
[19:34] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Yes .. in terminal ( ctl+alt+F1 ) will suffice for this exercise .
[19:40] <dracconi> Bashing-om: and another question how to remove eOS desktop?
[19:40] <OerHeks> BlueProtoman, maybe mysql has died? sudo service mysqld start
[19:40] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[19:41] <Bashing-om> dracconi: I pass on removing a DE .. Others will have to advise .
[19:41] <OerHeks> but with that many ppa's .. good luck mister
[19:41] <BlueProtoman> OerHeks: `Failed to start mysqld.service: Unit mysqld.service not found.`
[19:41] <dracconi> Bashing-om: what?
[19:41] <BlueProtoman> OerHeks: I didn't use any PPAs to install this (or are you talking to someone else)
[19:42] <OerHeks> BlueProtoman, that was for dracconi
[19:42] <BlueProtoman> Derp, sorry
[19:42] <Bashing-om> dracconi: I can not advise on a good reliable means to remove a Desktop Environmnet (Eos) .
[19:42] <OerHeks> BlueProtoman, no clue , you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server too
[19:43] <dracconi> Bashing-om: so i need to reinstall
[19:43] <dracconi> ?
[19:44] <ioria> dracconi, you installed elementary from ppa ? so use ppa-purge to remove it
[19:44] <dracconi> ioria: umm it not working (nothing is removed)
[19:45] <dracconi> ioria: but the eOS de is avaible lol
[19:45] <Bashing-om> dracconi: "need" no .. If this is ubuntu .. it is always fixable . But removing a DE .. well .. I am not comfortable advising one how to .
[19:45] <OerHeks> adding a PPA is no problem, removing one from many can give vary results
[19:45] <dracconi> Bashing-om: and one more question - when i have ubuntu on two partitions ext4 (1 mounted on / and 1 on /home) how can i reinstall ubuntu harmless?
[19:48] <ioria> dracconi,  However you can use Synaptic to remove it
[19:48] <Dandels> So I'm not exactly very experienced with the peculiarities of ubuntu, but see no reason why removing a desktop environment would make anything break. Even removing your display manager should simply just make you boot to a tty
[19:48] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to run a local instance of MySQL and PHPMyAdmin on Ubuntu 16.04, but when I go to `localhost/phpmyadmin` I get an HTTP 500.  Plain old `localhost` is the default apache2 page for Ubuntu, as expected.  Any tips?
[19:49] <Bashing-om> dracconi: Well ,, if multi DE's were not a factor, one just chooses NOT to format /home in the re-install .. now I just do not think I would . But your system, your effort . Me I would do a clean fresh install ; and install once more the softwares I do want .
[19:51] <Mina_> No run no one OS. Help please!
[19:51] <Bashing-om> !help | Mina_
[19:52] <Dandels> Mina_, hmm? That's not a complete question.
[19:52] <Mina_> mbr gpt crashed?
[19:54] <monty_hall> I'd like to launch a script when I unlock my workstation
[19:54] <monty_hall> how to do this?
[19:55] <dracconi> monty_hall: Startup applications
[19:56] <dracconi> Bashing-om: ok, running this command
[19:56] <monty_hall> so if I've logged in, locked it, walked away and then unlocked it it will launch startup everytime?  I thought startup application only happened on login.
[19:56] <monty_hall> it's crucial it's unlock.
[19:56] <monty_hall> though I'll take startup for the time being.
[19:56] <monty_hall> think my coworker is logging into my workstation when I walk away
[19:57] <monty_hall> going to snap a photo w/ webcam when workstation is unlocked.
[19:57] <monty_hall> sure I can change the password but I want to nail this b*tch
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> monty_hall  it's dbus related ... http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/28181/run-script-on-screen-lock-unlock
[19:58] <Mina_> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda  This command no will crash my date?
[19:58] <Mina_> data
[19:59] <monty_hall> thanks
[20:03] <Bashing-om> Mina_: That ^ depends .. on the type of partitioning .. and IF /root is on that 1st hard drive .
[20:03] <Mina_> grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.
[20:04] <Mina_> I use gpt
[20:04] <k1l_> Mina_: i dont understand what your issue is and what you are trying to do on what setup
[20:04] <Bashing-om> Mina_: Target partiton containing /root not mounted ?
[20:05] <EriC^^> Mina_: what's your issue?
[20:05] <Dandels> He said something about gpt, mbr and no os booting
[20:05] <Dandels> Just guessing he has a broken dual boot
[20:06] <Mina_> No one OS no run
[20:06] <EriC^^> Mina_: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:06] <EriC^^> paste the link it gives you here
[20:06] <k1l_> Mina_: there is #ubuntu-ru if you want to use your native language
[20:07] <Mina_> here need guru
[20:07] <k1l_> !details | Mina_
[20:07] <Mina_> link?
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[20:07] <Bashing-om> Mina_: EriC^^ is that guru . atend well to his advise .
[20:08] <alanclark5> i had a network issue, did anybody see my curl question?
[20:08] <rahtgaz> Hello all. I used the live version of Ubuntu 16.04 to test it out and noticed that the python versions shipping with it were 2.7.11+ and 3.5.1+. What dopes the plus sign mean?
[20:09] <Mina_>  I installed Windows - no run Installed Ubuntu - no run
[20:09] <Bashing-om> alanclark5: Nope, do not see it in " lastlog " .
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> Mina_  if windows won't run, and ubuntu won't run, it may be hardware related
[20:10] <Mina_> just gpt/mbr
[20:10] <EriC^^> Mina_: can you boot a live usb of ubuntu on it?
[20:10] <Mina_> dd default mbr image use?
[20:11] <Mina_> im here
[20:11] <Mina_> i see data
[20:11] <Mina_> I see all partitions all work
[20:11] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com
[20:11] <alanclark5> oh, thanks. here it goes again. i know what curl does but how does it work when the command is called to fetch a website over http, and what it does on the server side (assuming is an ubuntu server).
[20:11] <bprompt> EriC^^:     since she's crossposting at another channel, Mina_  said, she's got a GPT 1tb hdd in a BIOS firmware machine, something went south with it, she has windows( dunno what version ) and ubuntu in it, neither OS work, already explained to her to do a full reinstall and make the hdd MBR table instead, and before wiping, to save any files she needed
[20:11] <EriC^^> in a terminal
[20:11] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:11] <Mina_> This is nc from the netcat-openbsd package. An alternative nc is available in the netcat-traditional package. usage: nc [-46bCDdhjklnrStUuvZz] [-I length] [-i interval] [-O length] 	  [-P proxy_username] [-p source_port] [-q seconds] [-s source] 	  [-T toskeyword] [-V rtable] [-w timeout] [-X proxy_protocol] 	  [-x proxy_address[:port]] [destination] [port]
[20:11] <Dandels> I suppose the same applies for ubuntu?: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dual_boot_with_Windows#Windows_UEFI_vs_BIOS_limitations
[20:12] <Mina_> 16.04 live
[20:12] <SchrodingersScat> alanclark5: what do you mean 'how does it work'?  It sends the request and the server responds, curl displays things based on the flags you give it
[20:12] <lerner> im going to test the newest kernel (4.7 rc1) to check if a bug keeps bugging, my architecture is 64 bits, im aiming for the generic, but here http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.7-rc1-yakkety/ there are 2 amd64.deb generics... do I need them both? one is 1MB the other 56MB
[20:13] <EriC^^> Mina_: sorry, there was a typo
[20:14] <EriC^^> Mina_: sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:14] <k1l_> lerner: you need headers and image
[20:14] <Mina_> http://termbin.com/e7nb
[20:15] <EriC^^> Mina_: type ls /sys/firmware/efi
[20:16] <EriC^^> does it show efivars?
[20:16] <Mina_> ls: cannot access '/sys/firmware/efi': No such file or directory
[20:16] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, so the live usb is booted in legacy mode
[20:17] <EriC^^> Mina_: type sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[20:17] <EriC^^> then ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:17] <Mina_> UEFI i think
[20:17] <Mina_> ok
[20:17] <monty_hall> how do I disable apache service at startup
[20:17] <EriC^^> Mina_: nope, it's in legacy mode right now (the live usb)
[20:18] <EriC^^> monty_hall: which ubuntu?
[20:18] <Mina_> ok
[20:18] <monty_hall> 14.04
[20:18] <EriC^^> monty_hall: update-rc.d -f disable apache2
[20:18] <EriC^^> monty_hall: * update-rc.d -f apache2 disable
[20:19] <Mina_> Eric^^
[20:20] <EriC^^> Mina_: ?
[20:20] <Mina_> So?
[20:20] <Mina_> sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[20:20] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:21] <EriC^^> then ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:21] <Mina_> http://termbin.com/th4p
[20:22] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, looks like windows was installed in uefi mode, ubuntu was installed in legacy mode
[20:22] <lerner> .......
[20:22] <monty_hall> can't seem to mount ext fat drive in ubuntu 14
[20:23] <monty_hall> is there some package that I need to install
[20:23] <monty_hall> this is for a thumb drive
[20:23] <monty_hall> extfs
[20:23] <Mina_> And?
[20:23] <EriC^^> Mina_: enable uefi in the bios, disable csm legacy support, mess around with any ahci settings, you should be able to get windows to boot
[20:24] <lerner> i installed the new kernel 4.7 as instructed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds and errors where encountered: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/nvidia/gm204/gr/gpccs_inst.bin for module nouveau , how bad is that? I dont use nvidia drivers, but the fallback linux graphica card drivers...
[20:24] <EriC^^> Mina_: then boot the ubuntu live usb in uefi mode (try ls /sys/firmware/efi to make sure it's booted in uefi mode) then install it
[20:24] <Mina_> There UEFI + Legacy and UEFI
[20:24] <PrincessCoderDas> Hi
[20:24] <EriC^^> Mina_: choose uefi alone
[20:24] <Dandels> hi PrincessCoderDas
[20:24] <PrincessCoderDas> What is the subject we are talking about?
[20:24] <Mina_> ok
[20:24] <PrincessCoderDas> Hi Dandels
[20:24] <Dandels> Just random people with different issues
[20:24] <PrincessCoderDas> Okay xD
[20:25] <PrincessCoderDas> Currently coding but i thought it may be nice to chat sometimes instead of sitting the whole day in my house lol
[20:25] <Dandels> lerner, probably not a problem. You'll know if things don't work, but the warning message doesn't mean anything is necessarily wrong
[20:25] <\9> just because you chat doesn't mean you aren't spending the whole day in your house
[20:25] <tgm4883> PrincessCoderDas: this is the support channel. If you want to chat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:26] <PrincessCoderDas> I know but still. Okay thanks tgm dude.
[20:28] <monty_hall> 14.04  doesn't have exfat-fuse or exfat-utils
[20:28] <lerner> ok, the experimental kernel 4.7 appears if I execute dpkg -l | grep linux-image: linux-image-4.7.0-040700rc1-generic , but there are no extras (linux-image-extras)... do I need them to test this new kernel?
[20:28] <monty_hall> has this been removed?
[20:28] <k1l_> lerner: they are testkernels. dont expect full service
[20:29] <bluejeans> hi
[20:29] <monty_hall> nvm
[20:29] <monty_hall> I was adding a "t"
[20:29] <monty_hall> :P
[20:31] <Simooon> Hi I can't get my graphics card working does anyone have any ideas? I'm running ubuntu 16.04 and have a Gorrce GTX 780M, and my computer works fine (but slowly, think it is just using the intel graphix) with the nouveauy driver installed, but every time I install an nvidia driver, it just goes black when I start up. It makes the normal sound, and I can type my password and enter the desktop environment, where my computer closes down if I press th
[20:31] <Simooon> e turn off button, but everything is black. If I enter an other tty I get the expected commandline and can uninstall the nvidia driver, and everytjing works like normal after a restart. Any insight will be greatly appreciated.
[20:31] <lerner> ok k1l_ aaaaaaaaaargh
[20:32] <lerner> I need to uninstall the linux-image-extra, what will happen if I do that?
[20:32] <lerner> will something break?
[20:32] <k1l_> lerner: and as i said already: you need kernel image and headers deb
[20:32] <lerner> no k1l_ im somehere else now...
[20:32] <lerner> kernel in use right now has extras , which I need to uninstall
[20:32] <k1l_> lerner: no. that is very important if you want to use closed source drivers like the nvidia one
[20:33] <k1l_> lerner: why that?
[20:33] <vevais> Oy
[20:33] <lerner> if one is using select proprietary or out-of-tree modules (ex. vitualbox, nvidia, fglrx, bcmwl, etc.) unless there is an extra package available for the version you are testing, you will need to uninstall the module first, in order to test the mainline kernel.
[20:33] <lerner> taken from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds
[20:33] <dbz2k> how do I update my header files in /usr/local/include/
[20:33] <alanclark5> sorry i had issues again @SchrodingersScat  so does it open a socket to port 80, send a http get request or something like that? I am trying to replicate its functioning for a programming project
[20:34] <lerner> there is no extras for 4.7, so I have to uninstall the extras for 4.4.0.22 (in use right now)
[20:34] <k1l_> lerner: did or did you not install the headers.deb matching your testing kernel?
[20:35] <Bashing-om> Simooon: What driver(s) is installed ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ? Does it match the hardware ?? (361 + )
[20:35] <PsynoKhi0> hi, if I attempt to dualboot 2 versions of in uefi mode on the same GPT formatted hard drive, provided I mount the same partition as /boot/efi on both, are they going to take turns handling GRUB after bootloader updates?
[20:35] <lerner> k1l_, I donwloaded headers AND image for 4.7 in 64 bits architecture, but there are no extras for 4.7...
[20:35] <PsynoKhi0> 2 versions of ubuntu*
[20:35] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: simply no
[20:36] <lerner> I downloaded whats available k1l_ , the generic ones, but there are no extras...
[20:36] <lerner> I installed it with sudo dpkg -i *.deb from the directory in which I downloaded both headers and image
[20:36] <k1l_> lerner: yes, there are no extras. doesnt matter.
[20:37] <PsynoKhi0> mistralol: simply no, one will handle grub, or simply no, don't dual boot?
[20:37] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: one will handle the grub config and then you wont be able to boot to the other one
[20:37] <lerner> k1l_, I want to avoid problems when booting if I dont delete the extras for 4.4 (actual kernel), so, do I nuke the extras for 4.4.0.22 or not?
[20:37] <Simooon> Bashing-om, nvidia-304, nvidia-current, nvidia-opencl-icd-304, which as far as I can tell is what I need
[20:37] <PsynoKhi0> oh
[20:38] <k1l_> lerner: if it doesnt boot just go back to the older kernel in grub.
[20:38] <lerner> k1l_, I access GRUB pressinf f2, correct?
[20:38] <k1l_> lerner: its a testing kernel. i bet you plan to stay on that, which is definetly the wrong way
[20:38] <lerner> pressing
[20:38] <k1l_> no, esc
[20:38] <k1l_> no, left shift
[20:38] <lerner> no, I want to test with it
[20:39] <Bashing-om> Simooon: http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/103306/en-us . Says the 361 version driver for the stated card .
[20:39] <PsynoKhi0> mistralol: so it has to be another distro?
[20:39] <lerner> ill boot as soon as this south park episode ends
[20:40] <Mina_> EriC^^: ?
[20:40] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: no
[20:40] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: that wont work either for the same reason
[20:40] <EriC^^> yes?
[20:40] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: if you have 2 distros you actually end up with 3 grub installs....
[20:40] <Mina_> There no Windows in List
[20:41] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: you basically doing chain loading. So the main grub is used to select which other grub to load which is then controlled by each install
[20:41] <EriC^^> Mina_: are you in the live usb now in uefi mode?
[20:41] <Mina_> And if enable UEFI + Legacy then Name of the hd in list but it not run
[20:41] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: but why anyone would need multiple instals on a single machine i do not know ;)
[20:41] <Mina_> YEs
[20:42] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, type ls /sys/firmware/efi
[20:42] <Mina_> Now only UEFI enabled
[20:42] <PsynoKhi0> mistralol: here's my reason: gallium nine and padoka
[20:42] <Mina_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ ls /sys/firmware/efi config_table  esrt              fw_vendor  runtime-map  vars efivars       fw_platform_size  runtime    systab
[20:42] <EriC^^> Mina_: which windows are you trying to install?
[20:42] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, type sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[20:42] <Simooon> Bashing-om, pretty sure I tried that one as well but I honestly cant keep count anymore, will try that one (possibly again) and return to tell what happend.
[20:42] <Mina_> i not trying I installed 100%
[20:42] <PsynoKhi0> mistralol: and a thrid install to keep up with rpm-based distros :)
[20:43] <Mina_> w 8
[20:43] <EriC^^> Mina_: trying to boot :p
[20:43] <PsynoKhi0> maybe a forth for Arch...
[20:43] <Bashing-om> Simooon: What releae are you on ? As that drivr is not available in the 14.04 repo .
[20:43] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: you realize you can run most things inside a virtualmachine or inside docker or another type of jail?
[20:43] <Mina_> I have it
[20:43] <Simooon> 16.,04
[20:43] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, try sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:43] <Simooon> Bashing-om, 16.04
[20:43] <Mina_> no run
[20:44] <Simooon> Bashing-om, there is a newer version as well, I defenately tried that one, and that did not work.
[20:44] <Mina_> http://termbin.com/ihht
[20:45] <Simooon> Bashing-om, okay it is installed, will restart brb
[20:45] <PsynoKhi0> mistralol: can I use different GPU drivers/modules for my AMD card w/o jumping through PCI passthroughs that way though :P
[20:45] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, windows isn't in the efi list
[20:46] <EriC^^> Mina_: try to reinstall windows with uefi only set
[20:46] <EriC^^> then ubuntu
[20:46] <Mina_> ok
[20:46] <Bashing-om> Simooon: K.. good to go .. purge what you have and rm the present /etc/X11/xorg.conf file . Might see what the sytem chooses to install ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' and be done with it :)
[20:46] <mistralol> PsynoKhi0: well you could by using a different kernel at boot time or by unloading / loading the gpu drivers ;)
[20:48] <lizard_> hi
[20:48] <PsynoKhi0> hmmm
[20:49] <Simooon> Bashing-om, nope same as all the other tries, loginscreen is completely black, though it seems to be there, just not rendered somehow.
[20:50] <Simooon> Bashing-om, any other ideas? :-)
[20:50] <Danielh90> I really want to switch to ubuntu but I'm afraid too.
[20:50] <Bashing-om> Simooon: Boot the guest session and GUI is good ?
[20:50] <Simooon> how do I do that?
[20:50] <Simooon> Bashing-om, how do I do that?
[20:50] <Bashing-om> Simooon: Ar the login screen I expect there to be an option to choose "guest" .
[20:52] <Simooon> Bashing-om, Oh, but by that point everything is already black, I just see the grub menu, and then the ubuntu with some dots underneath, and then everything is just black, but the sound for the login screen is there.
[20:52] <Bashing-om> Simooon: If the GUI is good in other sessions .. indicates a problem in the configs of your session .
[20:53] <Bashing-om> Simooon: Have you pruged the old drivers prior to installing another ? what have we ' dpkg -l | grep -l nvidia ' ?
[20:53] <Bashing-om> purged*
[20:54] <OerHeks> maybe nomodeset helps
[20:54] <Danielh90> Should I move to ubuntu desktop or keep with windows 10?
[20:54] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[20:55] <Simooon> Bashing-om, well when it does not work I purge the nvidia drivers, and then when I get it back again, the 304 versions have apeared again.
[20:56] <Simooon> I could try purging that one before I install another, but as far as I can tell, it does that automatically? Not sure if I tried that yet though.
[20:56] <Simooon> Bashing-om,  (sorry forgot to ping ) I could try purging that one before I install another, but as far as I can tell, it does that automatically? Not sure if I tried that yet though.
[20:59] <IREALLYambatman> Hey guys.. has anyone figured out how to move buttons to the right of windows for 16.04?
[21:00] <xangua> IREALLYambatman: in unity, you don't
[21:00] <IREALLYambatman> No one has patched unity?
[21:00] <tgm4883> I'll play, what's to patch? It's not broken
[21:01] <IREALLYambatman> What is 'second' best.. Should I switch to Gnome?
[21:01] <Bashing-om> Simooon: What I have found to be a best practice ' sudo apt purge nvidia '. Then see what the system installs ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' .
[21:02] <Dandels> What does "move buttons to the right of windows" mean? Move the panel to the right?
[21:02] <IREALLYambatman> "So until someone can produce a suitable patch for the Unity source code, and I would personally welcome such a patch, we are stuck with buttons to the left."
[21:02] <Simooon> Bashing-om, okay will try that in half an hour, got a skype call :-) but thanks for the sugestions :-)
[21:02] <IREALLYambatman> Like the minimize close fullscreen buttons
[21:02] <tgm4883> IREALLYambatman: there used to be a theme to do it IIRC
[21:02] <Bashing-om> Simooon: OH . remove the old /etc/X11/Xorg.conf . A new one should be made .
[21:02] <IREALLYambatman> tgm4883, I thought that wasn't able to be done anymore
[21:03] <tgm4883> IREALLYambatman: possibly not, IDK, I like the buttons on the left
[21:03] <Simooon> Bashing-om, will do that as well
[21:03] <IREALLYambatman> Sorry guys I know I'm asking REALLY REALLY newby questions.. I used to run debian back in the days and am trying to relearn everything
[21:04] <xangua> IREALLYambatman: the patch is: use another desktop environment; and if you like customize your desktop you won't like gnome that much either
[21:04] <IREALLYambatman> xangua, I just want it to FEEL like a windows gui, I tried installing a windows theme, didn't do much. What would you recommend?
[21:05] <xangua> IREALLYambatman: xfce and KDE are pretty much still the same and allow the user to customize it
[21:05] <k1l_> IREALLYambatman: look at xubuntu, lubuntu or ubuntu mate.
[21:05] <bprompt> IREALLYambatman:    I use LXDE which is openbox-based, and in openbox, the buttons atop of the window are configurable, to the left or right, and you can rearrange them, if you want the close button first, middle, wherever, hmmm the same is true for Kwin kde windows manager btw, those buttons are also customizable for kwin
[21:05] <xangua> KDE looks kinda like windows 10 if that's what you mean
[21:06] <IREALLYambatman> Is it easier to just install KDE or reinstall all of kubuntu?
[21:06] <bprompt> IREALLYambatman:    there's an LXDE-qt,  same as lxde, just a bit fancier, same, uses openbox customization and settings
[21:06] <OerHeks> the only feel-like-windows is windows.
[21:06] <Shibe> how can I search ubuntu repositories online?
[21:06] <Shibe> ubuntu 16 ones
[21:07] <k1l_> Shibe: packages.ubuntu.com
[21:07] <Bashing-om> Shibe: ' apt-cache search <term> ' .
[21:07] <k1l_> IREALLYambatman: you can install the desktop meta packages
[21:07] <Shibe> Bashing-om: I'd do that but i'm searching a package for 16.04 even though I'm on 14
[21:08] <Bashing-om> Shibe: Then as k1l_ advises ^ ,
[21:08] <Shibe> yeah thanks I found the package I was looking for
[21:08] <PsynoKhi0> mistralol: I'll investigate that option, thanks
[21:09] <bprompt> IREALLYambatman:     depends on what you have, if you can reinstall, I'd do so, I installed kubuntu on an ssd in about 8mins
[21:10] <IREALLYambatman> bprompt, >.< ok. I kinda already installed a lot of stuff here, didn't want to re-install everything
[21:10] <k1l_> IREALLYambatman: as i said: you can install the desktop metapackages
[21:10] <bprompt> IREALLYambatman:   then install kubuntu-desktop package
[21:10] <IREALLYambatman> k1l_, looking for the package name now
[21:11] <bprompt> IREALLYambatman:     lxde or lxde-qt are openbox-based, and the window buttons are customizable as well, as aforementioned, lxde-qt is just a bit fancier
[21:11] <k1l_> there are xubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop, (i dont know the mate one of my head). i dont really find kde to be windows lookalike.
[21:12] <cage> Hey guys, is there a easy way adjusting mouse acceleration on ubuntu? I did some research and most ended up with etc/X11/xorg.conf stuff, which seems doesnt get generated on default anyway ( actually tried tweaking it with some guide and ended up with more troubles )
[21:13] <cage> not on the ubuntu pc now, but for later reference would be appreciated
[21:16] <bprompt> cage:    xinput, or using xset -> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration   <--- you could do it in xorg.conf or add it to $HOME/.bashrc I'd think
[21:19] <cage> yea, i've come a cross that link but i had trouble with the xorg.conf part of it
[21:20] <bprompt> cage:    then maybe do it wtih xset, in a script, and have .bashrc run it
[21:21] <cage> yea that looks like something i could manage ^^
[21:30] <Cursarion> hi
[21:30] <Cursarion> I just installed Lubuntu
[21:30] <Cursarion> there doesn't seem to be a root account?
[21:32] <bprompt> Cursarion:     but  you do have your regular user account, right?
[21:32] <OerHeks> !sudo
[21:33] <Mina_> EriC^^?
[21:33] <EriC^^> Mina_: yes?
[21:33] <EriC^^> any luck?
[21:33] <k1l_> Cursarion: ubuntu doesnt use the root account, it uses sudo. see the bots message
[21:33] <Mina_> Windows copy files and reboot and not run from the hard drive
[21:34] <Mina_> Windows installation...
[21:34] <Cursarion> ah
[21:34] <Cursarion> well, sudo is alright then
[21:34] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, try setting it to legacy only
[21:34] <Mina_> I have gpt Legacy work woth MBR
[21:35] <Mina_> with
[21:35] <Cursarion> I have a SSD, how's things regarding those nowadays? Should I check mount options or something?
[21:35] <Bashing-om> !trim | Cursarion
[21:36] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, type sudo fdisk /dev/sdX
[21:36] <Mina_> If I boot UEFI then i not see in boot list my hard drive, but I see it in Legacy
[21:36] <EriC^^> press "o" to make a fresh mbr, then press "w" to write
[21:36] <bprompt> Cursarion:    in case you need to do a "su" session, you can always do a "sudo su", and that works, just like in any "su" session, don't forget to exit, and keep in mind that you're rooted... according to cannonical folks, is an welcome security extra, that should help many folks from messing something up inadvertentely, reason why is kinda tucked in "sudo" or much rather have folks use "sudo" most of the time
[21:37] <EriC^^> then use sudo fixparts /dev/sdX to remove the remaining gpt from it
[21:37] <Mina_> And my data?
[21:37] <Mina_> All will be removed?
[21:37] <EriC^^> yes
[21:38] <Mina_> NOOO
[21:38] <Mina_> hey?
[21:38] <EriC^^> ok
[21:38] <EriC^^> can you back it up somewhere until you've done the conversion?
[21:39] <bprompt> Cursarion:   nothing special per se, for ssd's, just another storage drive, is all
[21:39] <Mina_> no
[21:39] <Cursarion> Bashing-om: hmm, so, a scheduled trim is enabled by default then? How's it implemented, I checked crontab and it's empty
[21:39] <Mina_> I not made conversions
[21:39] <EriC^^> Mina_: are you in ubuntu live usb with uefi only?
[21:39] <Cursarion> bprompt: yeah, sudo's neat, but I've generally used su a lot too
[21:40] <Mina_> I just install first Linux and remove then second...
[21:40] <Mina_> Yes
[21:40] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, try sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 quickly
[21:40] <Bashing-om> Cursarion: Sorry, That is all I am aware of .. that it is supported .. in the kernel ?
[21:40] <bprompt> Cursarion:    I do both, used to do quite a few "su" in SuSE, but also used sudo, so...I use both, depending on the need
[21:40] <Mina_> Use netcat. nc: getaddrinfo: Servname not supported for ai_socktype
[21:41] <EriC^^> Mina_: try again
[21:41] <Mina_> Use netcat. nc: getaddrinfo: Servname not supported for ai_socktype
[21:41] <bprompt> hehe
[21:41] <bprompt> Mina_:    I don't think he meant you to enter "quickly" at the end btw =)
[21:42] <EriC^^> Mina_: try sudo blkid | grep fat
[21:42] <EriC^^> does it sat /dev/sda2 at the start? just 1 line
[21:42] <EriC^^> *say
[21:43] <Mina_> i cant post here
[21:43] <EriC^^> just see the start of it
[21:43] <lol> hi
[21:43] <EriC^^> if it says /dev/sda2 or something else
[21:43] <Mina_> 2 lines
[21:43] <lol> who is here??
[21:44] <lol_> hi
[21:44] <EriC^^> Mina_: try sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:44] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[21:44] <Erige> I can find any straight answer, I would like to use unity on my 2-1 one when I use touch screen, and XFCE when I am in desktop mode. I currently have Xubuntu installed, would I run into any problems installing ubuntu-desktop,
[21:45] <Mina_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo parted -l | pastebinit Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes.
[21:47] <EriC^^> Mina_: was one of the 2 lines before /dev/sda2?
[21:47] <Mina_> no
[21:47] <EriC^^> what were they
[21:47] <Mina_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo parted -l | pastebinit Warning: The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes. KeyboardInterrupt caught. ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[21:47] <Mina_> nothing
[21:47] <Mina_> it not work
[21:47] <EriC^^> no i mean with sudo blkid | grep fat
[21:48] <Mina_> how to post?
[21:48] <EriC^^> sudo blkid | grep fat | pastebinit
[21:49] <Mina_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17232569/
[21:49] <Cursarion> Bashing-om: mkay
[21:49] <Cursarion> how should I install new software?
[21:49] <Cursarion> synaptic+
[21:49] <Cursarion> ?
[21:49] <EriC^^> Mina_: ok, try sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\Microsoft\\Boot\\bootmgfw.efi -L "Windows" -p 2 -d /dev/sda
[21:50] <k1l_> Cursarion: any packagemanager you like. most in here use "apt" on terminal or the softwarecenter in GUI
[21:50] <Mina_> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\Microsoft\\Boot\\bootmgfw.efi -L "Windows" -p 2 -d /dev/sda  | pastebinit ** Warning ** : Boot0000 has same label Windows http://paste.ubuntu.com/17232626/
[21:51] <EriC^^> Mina_: btw, whatever you do (in case this doesn't work), dont convert gpt to mbr using gdisk, i tried it today and it ruined my hdd and the data even
[21:51] <EriC^^> (the transformation gpt to mbr option in gdisk)
[21:51] <EriC^^> Mina_: try sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:52] <Mina_> I many times convert mbr to gpt and gpt to mbr for windows 8 and 7
[21:52] <Mina_> gdisk
[21:52] <EriC^^> Mina_: with the data there?
[21:52] <Mina_> yes of cose and all work many time
[21:53] <EriC^^> Mina_: i've tried it before and i think it has worked, but today i tried it and the disk's partitions were gone, it said disk no label, i recreated them using old pastes but when i mounted the stuff the data wasn't there
[21:53] <mr-k> hi everyone,
[21:53] <EriC^^> i wouldn't recommend it obviously
[21:53] <Mina_> http://termbin.com/drr8
[21:53] <mr-k> what engine uses ubuntu phone for hybrid apps?
[21:54] <mr-k> webkit -> blink? gecko?
[21:54] <Mina_> ok
[21:54] <EriC^^> Mina_: it looks like windows is already in the efi list
[21:55] <EriC^^> Mina_: did you try to disable/enable secure boot?
[21:55] <Mina_> UEFI only
[21:55] <Mina_> no
[21:55] <Mina_> and where it?
[21:55] <EriC^^> under uefi
[21:55] <EriC^^> boot options, maybe under security
[21:56] <bprompt> mr-k:    I'd think webkit, one may note blink is just a webkit for, but I don't think it's gecko, I know android uses webkit
[21:56] <Mina_> I not found it in BIOS
[21:56] <bprompt> s/for/fork/
[21:56] <EriC^^> Mina_: which laptop?
[21:57] <Mina_> http://images.anandtech.com/doci/8394/MSI%20Z97GP%20BIOS%2021%20-%20Boot.jpg
[21:57] <mr-k> android uses webkit, yes. the thing with ubuntu is they always release the distro with firefox pre-installed
[21:57] <Mina_> but i have h97 model
[21:58] <mr-k> and I think that, the default engine in ubuntu browser is gecko.
[21:58] <Cursarion> k1l_: okay, thanks... lubuntu software center seems bit buggy :| but seems to work
[21:58] <mr-k> so, i'm a bit worried about that
[21:58] <k1l_> mr-k: the ubuntu browser is a chromium thing
[21:58] <Cursarion> I wonder if I should get any drivers or so, the fan is going crazy
[21:58] <bprompt> mr-k:     well, hmmmm I know kubuntu uses webkit, though it comes with firefox installed
[21:58] <mr-k> it's chromium? since when?
[21:58] <Cursarion> and I'm running nothing at all
[21:59] <EriC^^> Mina_: it should be somewhere, maybe security
[21:59] <mr-k> tried in 14.04 and was still gecko, so glad if they switched tho
[21:59] <mr-k> bah.. gecko is a great engine. it is. webkit feels more native somehow.
[22:00] <Mina_> i go to BIOS
[22:04] <Mina__> I not see in BIOS security boot option
[22:05] <Mina__> EriC?
[22:05] <Mina__> And dd reading sectors?
[22:05] <Mina__> first and last 1 Mb
[22:07] <cbfmc> hey people
[22:07] <Danielh90> Should I switch to ubuntu for my main driver? os
[22:07] <cbfmc> can anyone help out with minitube?
[22:07] <bprompt> Danielh90:    that's more of a question for you, not us :)
[22:08] <Bashing-om> Danielh90: Use the tools that suit you best .. all things considered .
[22:09] <bprompt> cbfmc:    I don't use it myself, so, though I'd say, IIRC SMplayer has a youtube plugin
[22:09] <Danielh90> bprompt, Bashing-om Ubuntu and windows can do the same thing for me :) I have been on windows for many years and would like a change
[22:10] <k1l_> Danielh90: since you ask here: move to ubuntu :)
[22:10] <Danielh90> Would you guys recommend ubuntu?
[22:10] <OerHeks> cbfmc, didn't you ask this yesterday too ?
[22:10] <Mina__> EriC^^: ?
[22:10] <bprompt> Danielh90:     well, may well be, but that's a decision that belongs to you, not us though :)
[22:10] <Danielh90> k1l_, will do Thanks
[22:10] <OerHeks> cbfmc, old bug ( 12.10 ) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/minitube/+bug/1061092  no way to play, use an other youtbe app
[22:11] <OerHeks> cbfmc, and the project is dead on github :-)
[22:11] <Bashing-om> Danielh90: So, make up  desktop live mediums . and see what you like . In the "try ubuntu" mode will not effect the present instaled OS .
[22:11] <bprompt> Danielh90:     I would recommend Cramps medicine, tis good, now, if you are not female and get cramps.. then they won't do much for you though, though it may work great for females with cramps, so.... it's a decision that you have to make
[22:13] <bprompt> Danielh90:    I mean, ask  a snake oil salesman if he would recommend snake oil, what do you think he's going to say?
[22:13] <Cursarion> umm... the fan is going even faster, despite I'm not running anything
[22:13] <Cursarion> how do I know if I need some drivers or something?
[22:14] <bprompt> Cursarion:    for kubuntu you mean?
[22:15] <Cursarion> lubuntu, but yeah
[22:15] <Cursarion> I'm a bit concerned about whether my hardware is properly supported or not
[22:15] <k1l_> Cursarion: open system-properties-gtk and see the drivers tab
[22:15] <bekks> Cursarion: More like you should clean your fan and heatpipe :)
[22:15] <bprompt> Cursarion:    nope, you mean you clean-installed Lubuntu ?
[22:16] <Cursarion> bekks: it's a brand new computer with AMD FX-8370
[22:16] <hello-zero> is there a way to stop a specific package (in this case nginx) being upgraded when i do apt-get upgrade ?
[22:16] <Cursarion> bprompt: well, I made a USB stick with the image and installed it
[22:16] <EriC^^> Mina__: is there a boot menu for uefi you can access while the pc boots?
[22:16] <bekks> Cursarion: Maybe the fan is undersized.
[22:17] <Cursarion> after that I installed the updates that it found
[22:17] <IREALLYambatman> What is the right apt-get install package for KDE?
[22:17] <Cursarion> k1l_: I don't have that
[22:17] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop
[22:17] <Cursarion> bekks: well, it's possible
[22:18] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, thanks
[22:18] <bprompt> Cursarion:     well, bear in mind that Lubuntu tis just Ubuntu using LXDE as desktop and windows manager, the drivers are still the same as any Ubuntu's
[22:18] <Cursarion> well, yeah, but would Ubuntu have all the optimal drivers at this point?
[22:19] <bprompt> Cursarion:    I mean, you may have changed the blinds, you didn't change the house though, so.. the house is still uses the same drivers as before
[22:19] <Cursarion> yes, but I have never used Ubuntu on my own computer before, and not especially on this one
[22:20] <Cursarion> so I wouldn't really know
[22:20] <IREALLYambatman> KDE is prompting me to chose a default display manager... SDDM or lightDM.. which should I go for?
[22:20] <Cursarion> the software & updates tool checked for propietary drivers and it found Unknown that isn't working
[22:20] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: lightdm
[22:21] <Cursarion> it offers amd64-microcode driver though
[22:21] <Cursarion> I'll install that and see what happens
[22:21] <bprompt> Cursarion:     well, if you want to check hardware drivers and such.... you can always make -> sudo lshw  <--- a call
[22:21] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, thanks.
[22:21] <bprompt> Cursarion:    and/or "lspci" and "lsusb"
[22:21] <Cursarion> at installation I opted out from the propietary software thingie
[22:22] <Cursarion> how do I know if something's missing?
[22:23] <IREALLYambatman> I got on screen warnings about error's and terminal gve me the error.. Errors were encountered while processing:
[22:23] <IREALLYambatman>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-config-telepathy-accounts_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[22:23] <IREALLYambatman>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kaccounts-providers_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[22:23] <IREALLYambatman> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[22:23] <bekks> !pastebin | IREALLYambatman
[22:24] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: Please patebin the entire output, not just a few lines.
[22:24] <nicomachus> IREALLYambatman: 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[22:27] <IREALLYambatman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17233895/
[22:27] <Cursarion> bprompt? are there any obvious clues to see if something might be missing?
[22:27] <IREALLYambatman> That gave me errors too.
[22:27] <IREALLYambatman> should I logout and try switching to KDE?
[22:28] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: Why didnt you run the command I gave you earlier?
[22:28] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, ? I did?
[22:28] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: Where, in that almost 6000 lineS?
[22:28] <Cursarion> and dunno, the case doesn't feel very warm
[22:28] <Cursarion> nor the air coming out from the fan
[22:29] <Cursarion> a panel applet shows a temperature of 60
[22:29] <bekks> Cursarion: And the heatpipe is hot.
[22:29] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, lol. You told me not to leave anything out :P
[22:29] <IREALLYambatman> ill repaste
[22:29] <Cursarion> no idea what scale it uses
[22:29] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: Celsius scale.
[22:30] <Cursarion> mkay
[22:30] <ronin-> hi, will this kind of init script work in the latest ubuntu version: https://gist.github.com/naholyr/4275302#file-service-sh
[22:31] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/17234022/
[22:31] <bekks> ronin-: How about just trying it? :)
[22:31] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, what is Celsuis scale?
[22:31] <ronin-> bekks: i have xubuntu 14.04 still :(
[22:32] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: Try removing all account-plugin-* packages.
[22:33] <IREALLYambatman> So sudo apt-get remove account-plugin-*?
[22:33] <ronin-> i just heard that this kind of things have changed recently in ubuntu, but i hope it works
[22:33] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: Yes.
[22:35] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/17234147/
[22:35] <Cursarion> bekks: any idea about the unknown device that's reported as not working? As in, is there a way to find out what device it is, and possibly make it work?
[22:35] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: Did you do what line 68 suggests?
[22:36] <bekks> Cursarion: Try looking at sudo lspci -k and sudo lsusb
[22:37] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, didn't seem to fix it.   http://paste.ubuntu.com/17234220/
[22:38] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: http://askubuntu.com/questions/618389/trying-to-overwrite-usr-share-accounts-services-google-im-service-which-is
[22:38] <IREALLYambatman> bekks, when I originally installed the KDE package I accidentally typed sudo sudo apt-get install kde-desktop, could that be the issue?
[22:38] <Cursarion> bekks: neither of those report any unknowns
[22:38] <bekks> IREALLYambatman: No.
[22:38] <bekks> Cursarion: Of course they dont. :D
[22:39] <Cursarion> hardinfo actually reports opengl renderer as unknown
[22:39] <bekks> Cursarion: But the give you the list of devices found - now you have to compare that list with the specs of the all components in your computer.
[22:39] <bekks> Cursarion: Which points to your opt-out of proprietary drivers earlier.
[22:40] <Cursarion> didn't that refer to software packaged by Canonical partners?
[22:40] <Cursarion> I'll go enable that now
[22:40] <Cursarion> and C library and default C compiler are unknowns too, but that hardly has anything to do with amd
[22:47] <Cursarion> enabling it didn't actually help, yet at least
[22:47] <Cursarion> but now I have a warning box about System program problem detected
[22:54] <Ancoor> Hi, Im here because my shorewall not start automaclty after my last upgrade
[22:56] <jagunco> this is a test
[22:57] <Ancoor> noone here?
[22:57] <jagunco> i'm here
[22:57] <bigLanky> I have mounted a network drive using this command: mount -t cifs -o username=USERNAME,password=PASSWD //192.168.1.10/media/tv /SOME/PLACE
[22:57] <bigLanky> so on my box, I now have a mounted drive on /SOME/PLACE... I need to unmount that
[22:58] <bigLanky> I am using: umount /SOME/PLACE and I get message that it is not mounted
[22:59] <bigLanky> now it worked, that was weird
[23:00] <jagunco> good
[23:01] <jagunco> i'm noob with freenode, so why i can't send messages to some channels?
[23:02] <k1l_> jagunco: some channels need registration due to troll abuse. see the channels topic, that should explain it.
[23:02] <bprompt> jagunco:   channel is probably in +r mode, meaning, only registered nicknames can send post, eveyone else, can read-only
[23:02] <jagunco> i understand, thank you both
[23:03] <jagunco> is there a way to list channel's modes?
[23:04] <bprompt> jagunco:   as  far as the abuse part, not sure I share that, some ops simply opt that mode, for their own reasons, sometimes not well founded though
[23:05] <bprompt> jagunco:    I think you can do a /who #CHANNELNAME
[23:05] <k1l_> no. channel modes are seen with "/mode #channelname"
[23:05] <k1l_> but i bet most topics should clear that bit already.
[23:06] <jagunco> "/mode #channelName" did not show anything for #vim channel :p
[23:06] <Ancoor> anyone has any idea why my shorewall not restarting after reboot?
[23:06] <k1l_> jagunco: look into the server window of your irc client
[23:07] <k1l_> Ancoor: shorewall is just a frontend to iptables. so you mean iptables is not running?
[23:07] <jagunco> k1l_, bingo!
[23:07] <jagunco> thanx :)
[23:08] <Ancoor> K1l_: It's running since when I start shorewall it's instant start of my rules.... :-)
[23:10] <jagunco> if i start another irc client with another nickname, will i be able to speak to myself to do some tests?
[23:11] <k1l_> yes
[23:11] <jagunco> cool
[23:11] <Ancoor> K1L_: Yes, iptables is running, im commincating with my server with ssh... no problem.
[23:12] <wenzel62> hi !
[23:13] <wenzel62> i installed a custom kernel on ubuntu 16.04, and i can't boot on it, the system hangs on grub loading the kernel
[23:15] <Ancoor> Shorewall is not longer supported?
[23:16] <bprompt> !shorewall | Ancoor
[23:16] <jagunco> wenzel62: how did you get this kernel?
[23:17] <wenzel62> jagunco: i cloned linux on github
[23:17] <wenzel62> i did make oldddefconfig, make , make modules, make modules_install, make install
[23:17] <OerHeks> wenzel62, unsupported, use the mainline kernels
[23:17] <OerHeks> !mainline
[23:17] <k1l_> wenzel62: ubuntu uses a lot of patches in its kernels.
[23:18] <wenzel62> but i'm working on an older version of the kernel
[23:18] <wenzel62> 4.0.0-rc3
[23:18] <wenzel62> is this why it doesn't boot ?
[23:18] <goudkov> i had something really weird just happen on one server. ubuntu 14.04, on Xeon(R) CPU E5-2430, kernel 4.2.0. all of the sudden, cpuinfo was showing 160-200 MHz (yep, that's right), and the server was non-responsive. with 10+ load average where normally it's 0.50 with this workload. rebooting didn't help at first. then, it all went back to normal. have no idea what happened or how to stop it from happening again. help. really,help. i'm scared :)
[23:18] <Ancoor> I usded shorewall since 1990.... really?
[23:19] <goudkov> could be something with intel_pstate, but that's default driver for this cpu in this kernel.
[23:19] <jagunco> does someone here works for canonnical? i want to work remotely from home to contribute to free software, how can i start? is it possible?
[23:20] <Guest84724> Hello All... a question for you... I loaded ubuntu on an acer AspireONe a while back... when I went to use it recently, It said an update was available...but it didn't take  I had already deleted my windows xp... and so now I get a grub rescue... I tried to do a flash drive and cd install but nothing works... any suggestions?
[23:20] <OerHeks> Ancoor, on what ubuntu version?
[23:20] <Ancoor> DerHeks... mandriva
[23:21] <OerHeks> oh
[23:21] <k1l_> jagunco: canonical has job offers from time to time. see their announcements. for partizipation in ubuntu see !contribute
[23:21] <Ancoor> I guess I need to learn new thing again
[23:23] <jagunco> k1l_: i'm too newbie for the recent offers, i started programming 'bout 2-3 years ago, but now i know better the OO programming paradigm. I don't know how I can get paid working with free software
[23:24] <jagunco> !contribute
[23:24] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shorewall/+bug/1571972
[23:24] <OerHeks> for 16.04 that is ..
[23:25] <OerHeks> nice discussion https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=773392
[23:32] <lubber> Ahoy. In my 14.04 Lubuntu install the kernel -88 seems to be missing almost all drivers, including network. Luckily I could reboot to -86 which runs fine. Can I somehow reconfigure the -88 kernel or so?
[23:38] <lubber> My HD was full during automatic upgrading so I did an apt-get autoremove before the problem occurred by booting to the new kernel for the 1st time, if that helps
[23:39] <k1l_> lubber: sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename
[23:40] <cbfmc> can anyone help me out getting minitube to work on 14.04?
[23:40] <OerHeks> cbfmc, unlikely
[23:40] <OerHeks> cbfmc, old bug ( 12.10 ) still valid  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/minitube/+bug/1061092  no way to play, use an other youtbe app
[23:41] <jagunco> is it a good practice to backup or configure as a separate partition the /var/cache/apt/archives directory to avoid downloading all the packages i need again?
[23:42] <bprompt> cbfmc:     IIRC Smplayer has a youtube plugin, if that helps
[23:44] <bprompt> cbfmc:    check the repositories for smplayer and "smtube"
[23:45] <lubber> Thanks k1l_. It says "Unpacking linux-generic (3.13.0.88.94) over (3.13.0.86.92) ...", but I guess I will not lose the working -86 kernel?
[23:46] <lubber> Ah grub found the -86 too, so I hope its ok
[23:49] <SamF> What's the generally agreed upon to be the best "IRC" client for Ubuntu?  I'm using Polari and it's okay but a bit too "bare bones".
[23:49] <SamF> *agreed upon to be the "best" IRC
[23:49] <OerHeks> jagunco, you could back them up, sure, see apt-clone http://askubuntu.com/a/486634
[23:49] <k1l_> there is no best. some use hexchat, some use weechat, some use irssi....
[23:50] <K350> SamF: Are you looking for a text.based  client or one wiht a GUI?
[23:50] <SamF> By text based do you mean that it runs in the terminal?
[23:50] <Smashcat> Hi, I have ubuntu 14.04.4 on a server, but for some reason the pam service doesn't work with dovecot (failing authentication even though details are correct). Anyone know if there's a known issue with it? Is it possible to bypass pam some way?
[23:51] <K350> SamF: Yes
[23:51]  * OerHeks wants a cartoon-ish irc client
[23:51] <Smashcat> Or, are there any better alternatives to dovecot as an imap server?
[23:52] <hello-zero> even though i installed openssl 1.02h and libssl-dev 1.0.2h-1+deb.sury.org~trusty+1 when i build nginx and run it it still says openssl 1.01f - anyone have any ideas what could be going on?
[23:52] <jagunco> OerHeks, great answer, thankyou :)
[23:55] <SamF> I'll try out a few.
[23:55] <Cursarion> irssi <3
[23:56] <SamF> Now, if I find one I like and get rid of Polari with sudo apt-get purge polari
[23:56] <SamF> that will axe the program and all related files that are not in the home directory.
[23:56] <lubber> Thanks again k1l_, the -88 kernel works fine now too.
[23:57] <SamF> is there any way to find any files it may have created in my home directory?
[23:57] <k1l_> SamF: all files that were created during install. not in your home.
[23:57] <SamF> I did ls -a ~/
[23:57] <SamF> and a lot of stuff printed to the screen.
[23:57] <k1l_> SamF: the files in your home are created on first run. so apt cant know what there is.
[23:58] <SamF> I know.
[23:58] <SamF> But is there an automated way to find them?
[23:58] <k1l_> no
[23:59] <SamF> So if you try a lot of programs how do you keep from accumuluating a bunch of useless config files in your home directory?
[23:59] <k1l_> remove that config files afterwards.
[23:59] <k1l_> if you dont bother to find them, why bother for them at all?