[01:28] <tokth> lk
[02:09] <ubuntu-mate> hola quien habla español que pueda ayudarme por favor?
[02:10] <nomic> tryin #ubuntu ubuntu-mate
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[02:11] <nomic> #ubuntu-es
[02:12] <ubuntu-mate> join #ubuntu-es
[02:12] <nomic>    /join
[02:12] <Dorlanfox> gracias
[02:12] <nomic> yw.
[02:13] <nomic> = 'you are welcome.' :)
[08:12] <Cnomesta> Hi! I wanted to ask how do I enable remote desktop on Ubuntu Mate?
[08:15] <ouroumov> Hi Cnomesta
[08:15] <ouroumov> Cnomesta, there's a number of VNC solutions available to you
[08:15] <ouroumov> For instance: vino
[08:28] <Cnomesta> Does vino support connecting form win computer
[08:29] <ouroumov> vino is a vnc server
[08:30] <ouroumov> you need a client that understands vnc on your windows machine
[10:33] <glgamer> Hello
[10:33] <alkisg> Hello
[10:34] <glgamer> 6:34am here, heh. Haven't been able to sleep a wink last night for whatever reason, so I decided to hop onto here.
[10:40] <glgamer> Hi hutch_
[10:41] <hutch_> glgamer, Hi
[11:01] <glgamer> Just wondering, are things normally so quiet in here? Or have I popped in at a "quiet time"?
[11:02] <alkisg> On Sundays, freenode IRC is usually quiet, yes
[11:02] <glgamer> Ah, alrighty then.
[11:02] <alkisg> If you just want to watch some people talking, try #ubuntu, it has the most traffic
[11:03] <glgamer>  Was more curious about getting to know the community around this distro currently, but perhaps later I will. Thanks though
[11:59] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[13:55] <kk_> hello everyone
[13:57] <kk_> I recently installed ubuntu mate 16.04 on my lenovo z50-70, and I am getting the following errors mentioned by dmesg:
[13:57] <kk_> vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device
[13:58] <kk_> Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: Reading local version info failed (-110)
[13:58] <ubuntu-mate_> join #ubuntu-mate
[13:58] <ubuntu-mate_> hello
[13:58] <kk_> hello
[13:58] <kk_> did you get my previous messages?
[13:59] <ubuntu-mate_> no i've just came here
[13:59] <kk_> I recently installed ubuntu mate 16.04 on my lenovo z50-70, and I am getting the following errors mentioned by dmesg:
[13:59] <kk_> vgaarb: this pci device is not a vga device
[14:00] <kk_> Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: Reading local version info failed (-110
[14:00] <kk_> Can you please help in this regard? I am new at this.
[14:01] <ubuntu-mate_> so you have a dedicated grapichs card like a nvidia 840m?
[14:02] <kk_> yes, I do
[14:02] <ubuntu-mate_> and i assume that you have picture
[14:02] <ubuntu-mate_> and the install is succesfull?
[14:03] <kk_> picture in what sense?
[14:03] <ubuntu-mate_> like it is working with your intel vga but not with nvidia?
[14:04] <kk_> I actually installed nvidia driver, and it seems to be running fine.
[14:04] <kk_> but these errors I was getting before that as well
[14:04] <kk_> is there any command I should run to check that?
[14:05] <ubuntu-mate_> and you installed a "vga" software like bumblebee?
[14:06] <kk_> nope I didn't do that. Should I?
[14:07] <ubuntu-mate_> nope just asking. I think this is a kernel problem vgaarb trying to use a different path to your vga
[14:07] <kk_> I have not installed anything extra. I just upgraded the softwares using apt, and installed nvidia 361 driver additionally. Nothing else
[14:08] <kk_> I have to mention, that I didn't get a wifi connection directly after install, so I installed it from the usb stick after the install.
[14:10] <ubuntu-mate_> In my opinion this should be a problem with your dual grapichs, because the integrated vga dosen't turn off when the system want to use the nvidia because nvidia optimus is crap in linux.
[14:10] <kk_> Do you happen to know of a solution to this?
[14:11] <ubuntu-mate_> what is the output for this command: lspci | grep VGA
[14:11] <kk_> just a sec
[14:12] <kk_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)
[14:12] <ubuntu-mate_> and that's all?
[14:12] <kk_> yes
[14:13] <kk_> lspci | grep NVIDIA shows
[14:13] <kk_> 03:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM108M [GeForce 840M] (rev a2)
[14:14] <ubuntu-mate_> and where you got error massage?
[14:15] <kk_> output of dmesg
[14:15] <kk_> while booting, I got that bluetooth error. So, I checked dmesg, and there I found out the mentioned issues.
[14:22] <ubuntu-mate_> at nvidia xserver settings you should see your grapichs card and tehre you can choose what you want to use
[14:23] <ubuntu-mate_> at PRIME Profiles
[14:24] <kk_> there I have selected NVIDIA (Performance mode)
[14:26] <ubuntu-mate_> I've searched a little bit and this will be a bug for z50-70's.
[14:27] <ubuntu-mate_> A lot of people complaining about it.
[14:28] <kk_> Ahhh. So, there is nothing I can do now.
[14:30] <ubuntu-mate_> There are some solutions on the forums for 14.04. At least you should try or maybe look for bumblebee. I'm sorry i can't help :(
[14:31] <kk_> okay, I will try those. Thank you for taking the trouble to help me. Much appreciated :)
[14:31] <ubuntu-mate_> Everything for the linux community :). You're welcome
[15:47] <SuperEngineer> Has anyone got a boat I could borrow? [the weather here is slightly "damp" today]
[15:54] <rahtgaz> I'm planning to move away from Mint and into Ubuntu. The last 24 hours were spent fooling around with Ubuntu, but despite my best efforts I just can't stomach the Unity DE.
[15:54] <rahtgaz> So I'm moving to Ubuntu Mate. Are there any downsides to this choice? Something I need to be aware?
[15:54] <ouroumov> Support is 3 years for the LTS
[15:55] <ouroumov> Instead of 5 for regular Ubuntu
[15:55] <rahtgaz> That should be alright ouroumov. Thanks. System-wise however, Ubuntu mate is based off the exact same repositories as Ubuntu correct?
[15:55] <ouroumov> Yes
[15:55] <ouroumov> Beware however
[15:56] <rahtgaz> yes?
[15:56] <ouroumov> That some tips you'll find regarding Ubuntu (Fixes, Tweaks etc) won't apply for Ubuntu MATE
[15:56] <ouroumov> So be careful what you do
[15:56] <SuperEngineer> It uses a lot less resource than Mint - a bit of a downside in that some of your processor & your memory won't fully utilised!  :_D
[15:56] <rahtgaz> So there are some minor changes to core?
[15:57] <Switches> There aren't really any downsides to it, although there are a few things to be aware of, ATI drivers (FGLRX) are a no go for any of the 16.04 based systems, MATE at the moment is transitioning to GTK3 toolkit (more for the 16.10 development cycle, so doesn't concern an LTS user just yet). Other than that just have fun with it
[15:57] <ouroumov> No rahtgaz
[15:57] <ouroumov> Core is the same
[15:57] <ouroumov> But, for instance
[15:57] <ouroumov> I had a friend break synapse the other day
[15:57] <ouroumov> I couldn't understand how he did that
[15:57] <ouroumov> Turns out, he installed Unity-Tweak-Tool, on Ubuntu MATE
[15:58] <ouroumov> That's not a good idea
[15:58] <rahtgaz> Oh, alright, lol. For a moment there you had me worried. Yeah, I will be careful with what I am doing
[15:58] <ouroumov> ^^
[15:59] <SuperEngineer> rahtgaz: I have Ubuntu 14.04.4, Ununtu Mate 16.04 & Mint on a triple boot system - Mate is good  - you have many, many options as to how you have the desktop.
[16:00] <rahtgaz> For a general purpose machine with a focus on python development and multimedia, there is really no advantage on chosing Ubuntu Server and install Mate from there, as oposed to just go Ubuntu Mate
[16:00] <rahtgaz> ?
[16:01] <SuperEngineer> [Mint is becoming a bit of the "& in third place, struggling but desrving of the bronze medal" case.
[16:01] <Switches> Not really, if you "needed" something like an SQL db or maybe LAMP then possibly the server route would be better, but not just for a Python Dev station imo
[16:02] <rahtgaz> yeah. I do enjoy Mint for its traditional desktop paradigm. But just that. The DE itself is less configurable than MATE
[16:02] <ouroumov> rahtgaz, yeah no you should go with Ubuntu MATE
[16:03] <ouroumov> rahtgaz, only if for the config tools, the welcome + Boutique stuff
[16:03] <rahtgaz> ok, folks. You have been very helpful. Thank you. I'll welcome myself to the group :)
[16:06] <SuperEngineer> rahtgaz: welcome
[16:06] <SuperEngineer> ;-)
[16:44] <buntunoob> Is it possible/safe to upgrade from Ubuntu 14 to Ubuntu Mate 16?
[16:50] <ouroumov> buntunoob, I don't know.
[16:50] <ouroumov> buntunoob, but why would you want to do that?
[16:51] <ouroumov> buntunoob, easier to go with a clean install I think
[16:51] <buntunoob> ouroumov, yeah well I'd prefer to try the upgrade option, as it is there to be used, I believe.
[16:52] <ouroumov> Yeah But you're supposed to upgrade from Ubuntu to Ubuntu, from Ubuntu MATE to Ubuntu MATE
[16:53] <ouroumov> Though I think it's possible to do a trans-flavor upgrade, but I don't remember how. Maybe you can ask in #ubuntu channel
[16:53] <buntunoob> ouroumov, ty.
[17:46] <mario__> hi everybody
[17:46] <ouroumov> hi mario__
[17:47] <mario__> ouromov hi
[17:50] <deise> OLá
[19:14] <JakesDen> Hello, I need some help trying to remove firefox.
[20:03] <pilne> i need to figure out how to get the screensaver and power settings to play nicely, i'm struggling here lol.
[20:14] <alkisg> pilne: what is the problem with those?
[20:15] <pilne> i just want it to start the screensaver and lock the screen at 10 minutes, and then blank the screen at 15. and nothing more.
[20:17] <alkisg> And you can't do that from the screensaver settings dialog?
[20:21] <pilne> i can set the screensaver there, but I can't get it to lock and stay locked
[20:22] <alkisg> gsettings list-recursively org.mate.screensaver
[20:22] <alkisg> Put the output of that command to pastebin...
[20:24] <pilne> http://paste.debian.net/738420/
[20:25] <pilne> i have it on blank for now, because it kinda works
[20:25] <pilne> but i'd love to get it setup properly to hit screensaver, and then blank later with power settings
[20:28] <alkisg> So you're saying that if you select another screensaver there, it doesn't start at 10 minutes?
[20:29] <alkisg> The power manager settings are at: `gsettings list-recursively org.mate.power-manager | grep sleep-display`
[20:30] <pilne> it does, but then i try to enable screen blank at 15 minutes and it just doesn't seem to play nicely
[20:31] <alkisg> And what happens at 15 minutes then? The screensaver continues to work but the screen isn't blanked?
[20:31] <pilne> yeah
[20:32] <pilne> isn't a biggie but just a niggle
[20:32] <alkisg> Hmm I haven't tried that, it's possible that the screensaver is marking the pc as "active"... if it's reproducible, you should file a bug report
[20:33] <pilne> ok, i'll poke around a bit more and see before i do that
[20:34] <pilne> ty for your help in looking into it though :)
[21:19] <JakesDen> anyone here?
[21:55] <YankDownUnder> Patience is a virtue...
[23:16] <Guest3835> hey