[05:56] <acheronuk> clivejo: on a fresh YY install with no ppas, plasma-desktop-date 5.6.4 has breaks: kde-l10n-** (<=4:15.12.3-0ubuntu3~) 
[05:58] <acheronuk> while those language packs are at 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu2, meaning installing one uninstalls plasma-desktop and plasma-desktop-data 
[05:59] <acheronuk> or updating plasma-desktop from the iso version of 5.5.5 to 5.6.4 uninstalls the language pack you set on installation
[07:18] <user|64309> Sorry to disturb you nice people here, but reading the header here means that you are working on X-backports of 16.04.1 apps?
[07:24] <vip> hello
[11:38]  * clivejo kicks LP
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:42] <soee_> hiho BluesKaj
[11:42] <soee_> hiho clivejo
[11:42] <BluesKaj> hi soee_
[11:42] <clivejo> hi
[11:43] <BluesKaj> hi clivejo
[11:44] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj & soee_
[11:58] <acheronuk> hi all
[15:17] <acheronuk> how do we go about fixing this patch for konsole? https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=konsole.git&a=commitdiff&h=27dec8d02f705c77eef45a2533bed203eec9454f
[15:18] <acheronuk> where this commit has replaced it's context with a new format equivalent https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=konsole.git&a=commitdiff&h=27dec8d02f705c77eef45a2533bed203eec9454f
[15:21] <acheronuk> sorry. this is the patch https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/konsole/tree/debian/patches/debian-T-addition.diff?h=kubuntu_unstable
[15:50] <clivejo> acheronuk: need to modify the patch to apply to the current version of main.cpp
[15:53] <acheronuk> yes, I know. suppose I was really asking how to alter that line to the new format used
[15:54] <clivejo> I would disable the patch by commenting out the line in the series file, edit main.cpp manually, run debuild -S which will warn about a source code change and create a diff.  The copy that diff into the old patch file, renable the patch and hopefully it should patch again
[15:55] <clivejo> probably more elegant ways
[15:56] <acheronuk> so..... options.add("T <value>", ki18n("Debian policy compatibility, not used"));
[15:56] <acheronuk> becomes what?
[15:57] <acheronuk> that is really what I'm asking
[15:58] <blaze> man quilt
[15:59] <acheronuk> I know how to use quilt
[15:59] <clivejo> Id just leave that line as is
[16:00] <clivejo> is it generating errors?
[16:00] <acheronuk> It needs to change format as the rest have done http://paste.ubuntu.com/17294449/
[16:02] <clivejo> options.add("T <value>",  ki18nc("@info:shell", "Debian policy compatibility, not used"));
[16:02] <clivejo> ?
[16:03] <clivejo> oh I see what you mean
[16:03] <clivejo> thats a diff
[16:04] <clivejo> I dont know
[16:04] <clivejo> comment it out for the time being
[16:05] <acheronuk> I would make educated guesses based on the examples in that diff, but it really would only be guesses
[16:05] <acheronuk> so not happy with that
[16:05] <clivejo> similar guesses here
[16:06] <clivejo>     parser.addOption(QCommandLineOption(QStringList() << "T <value>", i18nc("@info:shell", "Debian policy compatibility, not used"))); would be my guess
[16:06] <acheronuk> maybe ask the author of that commit or in #kde-devel?
[16:06] <clivejo> acheronuk: good idea
[16:07] <clivejo> see what T <value> is
[16:07] <clivejo> and if its still valid
[16:10] <acheronuk> http://marc.info/?l=konsole-devel&m=125168668230951
[16:15] <clivejo> acheronuk: what would your guess be?
[16:25] <acheronuk> parser.addOption(QCommandLineOption(QStringList() << "T", ki18n("Debian policy compatibility, not used"), QStringLiteral("value")));
[16:25] <acheronuk> but really a stab in the dark
[16:26] <acheronuk> based on the changes to  options.add("p <property=value>", ki18nc("@info:shell", "Change the value of a profile property."));
[16:26] <acheronuk> example
 Sure try it :)
[16:48] <acheronuk> I've emailed the guy who did the git.reviewboard.kde.org on that part, as suggested on #kde-devel
[16:49] <acheronuk> it's in unstable, so can't see any huge hurry to fix it, so may as well take the time to ask
[16:56] <jimarvan> love english summer weather
[16:56]  * jimarvan still dripping from motorbike ride...
[16:56] <acheronuk> you're in the minority then jimarvan 
[16:56] <jimarvan> cornwall for evah! :))
[16:57] <jimarvan> have have more chances to win the lottery than to get 3 days of sunshine consecutively :P
[17:48] <renee77> hey
[17:48] <soee_> o/
[17:48] <renee77> :)
[17:49] <renee77> when installing kubuntu and partitioning through installation, is it standard gpt or msdos?
[17:49] <soee_> msdos ?
[17:49] <renee77> parition table
[17:50] <renee77> partition table
[17:50] <soee_> hmm im not sure, i doubt it has anything to do with msdos
[17:50] <renee77> it was till 4 weeks ago msdos
[17:51] <renee77> it has been a standard for a very long time
[17:53] <pekkari> renee77: I just check and Ubuntu 16.04 seems to use dos partition table
[17:54] <renee77> Now uefi is comming up and I was wondering why gpt was not chosen as standard
[17:54] <renee77> thanks pekkari
[17:56] <jimarvan> hmm
[17:57] <renee77> whats up ?
[17:57] <jimarvan> isn't there an option?
[17:58] <renee77> In what way?
[17:58] <jimarvan> to choose different partioning when installing on an entire disk?
[17:59] <renee77> only when using partitioning tool
[17:59] <jimarvan> ye
[17:59] <renee77> not through expertmode
[17:59] <renee77> while installing
[17:59] <jimarvan> aaaaah gotcha
[17:59] <jimarvan> hmm
[17:59] <pekkari> I should say that more than uefi is comin,g is a bios is disappearing...
[17:59] <jimarvan> not even with custom?
[17:59] <renee77> nope
[17:59] <jimarvan> hmm ok
[17:59] <jimarvan> good suggestion, to consider! ;)
[17:59] <renee77> yes that was why I was asking pekkari :)
[18:00] <pekkari> it's yet possible to find components that has limited support of uefi(for instance, graphic cards)
[18:00] <pekkari> but it's quite rare
[18:01] <renee77> Through but when having those different partitioning should be available but not standard I think (just wondering)
[18:02] <renee77> true
[18:05] <renee77> One last question for today, will be bugging tomorow again :) How about secure boot? Is it available through install for regular user?
[18:07] <renee77> (I know it can be defined by user after install, but one have to do some research and have some knowledge of terminal etc)
[18:22] <renee77> See u tomorow bye all have a nice evening (or day)
[18:22] <pekkari> I should be surprised if the expert mode allows you to do that now
[18:23] <pekkari> I didn't give it a try though
[18:23] <renee77> ah ok been experimenting with gentoo to get more understanding of linux,
[18:23] <renee77> and there it could and also seemed doable within kubuntu
[18:24] <renee77> with root rights 
[18:25] <renee77> but will give it a try :)
[18:25] <renee77> to see if it can with Kubuntu but I think it is only possible after install and not during install.
[18:26] <renee77> Thanks pekkari for your help :)
[18:26] <pekkari> so many of the tricks you can see in gentoo are doable in several other distros
[18:27] <renee77> yes they are and also implementable I think
[18:27] <pekkari> the proble can be if you happen to reach different versions of the software you want to tune
[18:28] <pekkari> or distro specific tricks like how to handle multiple instances of tomcat, or several configs in openvpn
[18:29] <renee77> That is true but I am trying to target common use of os for most users
[18:30] <renee77> security is more and more becoming a very real part of installing an os
[18:31] <renee77> thats why I asked of secure boot as one important module provided by uefi
[18:32] <pekkari> I agree, so many big businesses are now pointing to Trusted Computing technologies
[18:32] <renee77> :)
[18:33] <pekkari> telco community for instance is getting its trusted computing projects to get this done in openstack
[18:34] <renee77> Ah going to search for that one. 
[18:35] <renee77> it didn't cross my path :) I hope to meet you again thanks for giving some insight :)
[18:36] <renee77> have to go now :(
[18:36] <pekkari> artifacts.opnfv.org/opnfvdocs/docs/opnfvsecguide/compute/trust.html
[18:36] <renee77> have it thanks!
[18:36] <pekkari> sure, you'll see me often 
[18:37] <renee77> great!
[20:28] <soee_> uhm, Apple Designs New File-System To Succeed HFS+