[00:15] mhall119: while you are at it, mind approving me? :P [07:46] Gooood morning o/ [07:54] Good moaning! [07:54] hello [08:19] morning [09:32] are we planning on having a planning meeting about tomorow, or is that all already done dholbach ? [10:08] it's already done [10:10] ok [10:37] pleia2: one talk is written, and I need to write the other talk, can't wait :D [11:26] * popey walks to the shops to get something nice for lunch. ttfn [12:02] marcoceppi, jcastro, who'd be the best person to ping to help us bug 1591968 and unblock ubucon.org deployments? [12:02] hm, no bug bot -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-helpers/+bug/1591968 [12:04] Marco but he's on a plane [12:04] and I will be shortly [12:04] I will see if someone on the team can hop in. [12:04] jcastro, I'm worried to add more to Marco's plate, that's why I was asking if someone else could give us a hand [12:05] thanks! [12:05] all the people who know charm tools work for marco anyway, so either way he needs to finish it or delegate [12:05] when I see him today I'll make him unblock you. :D [12:05] * dpm hugs jcastro :) [12:06] should be an easy fix, the only reason I didn't submit it myself is because I don't quite understand the QA setup in the code [12:06] also dpm <- not a cloud expert [12:06] by any stretch [13:01] dholbach, I'll be a minute [13:01] I'm having some issues getting into the hangouts account [13:02] ok, no worries [13:06] dpm: I'll take a stab at an update [13:08] \o/ [13:35] dpm: I have a patch, I think I understand the intent, no tests yet, will iterate on that [13:36] https://code.launchpad.net/~marcoceppi/charm-helpers/lp-1591968/+merge/297186 [14:27] awesome, thanks marcoceppi [15:02] pleia2: knome we now have ~ubuntu-wiki-editors for wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com/community for non-canonical non-members. Not sure it's prudent to spread this information too wide, but sufficient people in leadership positions should know. Suggestions for how to quietly spread this information welcome. [15:54] all right my friends - I call it a day - see you all tomorrow! :-) [16:08] marcoceppi, is there any way to test your charm-helpers fix? There is no charm-helpers package, is there? I'm guessing _something_ in juju just pulls charm-helpers from a stable branch? [16:29] popey: if you read the recent thread about it on the -doc list, the consensus was that we had to tell people [16:39] pleia2: ah, i have some mail catching up to do, clearly [16:43] popey: and we also need to tell people what they need to do if they find that they still can't edit either wiki after joining the new group [17:32] popey: Cc:ed you on my latest email to the ongoing thread, since people are eager to see progress [17:32] Subject: Current wiki access status [17:47] you mean we're not going to switch to some new unknown alternative? XD [17:56] thanks pleia2 [17:56] "thanks" [17:56] :) [17:57] hah [17:58] popey: I enjoyed your pretty hair [17:58] must be fun to have daughters [17:58] depends. when they get to the teenage years.. [17:58] * wxl has that particular blessing right now [17:59] wxl: haha, indeed, I didn't even like myself when I was a teenage girl! ;) [17:59] that said, i'd still rather have a teenage daughter than a teenage son [18:00] actually my daughter's pretty darn awesome. i can't complain. [18:01] I was actually a good kid, but my youngest sister had a juvenile record, so may parents had the whole spectrum [18:01] heh [18:01] s/may/my [18:01] i was a good kid, at least in that i never got caught XD [18:02] sometimes I'd sneak out at night ...to go to the park and sit by the ocean [18:02] alone, without drugs :P [18:02] heheh [18:02] yeah i managed to avoid drugs all throughout high school [18:03] still, i hated school [18:03] and most everything else :) [18:03] i'd probably have gunned everyone down if it wasn't for irc XD [18:04] heh, I feel that [18:04] (not really, for those of you outside the us that think we're nothing but a bunch of gun toting freaks) [18:05] actually cleveland freenet's local irc was awesome. we'd have meetups and stuff. it was nice to have found my people [18:05] I still have nightmares about high school and I graduated in 1999 [18:05] worst time of my life [18:05] awww [18:05] i admit i hated it [18:05] i don't remember middle school being the terrible thing some people did. i do remember it being uncomfortable, but i think everyone was [18:06] in high school i was one of the weird kids, so i had a bit of a time adjusting to that [18:06] now a days, i would have been normal [18:06] in fact, i'm still the weird one [18:07] i actually like to interact with people in person with actual eye contact and real voices XD [18:07] as opposed to working through the guise of snapchat or facebook or whatever [18:07] I was weird, and not cool weird, like actually socially stunted and shy weird [18:07] yeah me too [18:08] but i think i became cool weird because i decided the only way to not be shy was to be ridiculously outgoing [18:08] but [18:08] i think only i thought i was really cool XD [18:09] I wore my love for cartoons and video games very openly and literally, before it was ok to do so as a teenager or adult [18:10] I'm proud of teenage me for doing that, but at the time I didn't realize it was one of the things that made me so unpopular [18:10] yeah that's how i was with computing in general [18:10] I didn't even realize I was doing it, I was just me [18:10] yep! [18:10] i remember freshman year i had it all planned out how i was going to finally fit in and got all the coolest clothes and then got ridiculed for them. then i decided i was just weird and that i might as well embrace it [18:11] I just kept to myself [18:11] pleia2: re: cartoons, you a comic reader? [18:12] wxl: yeah, but not those kinds of cartoons, disney full length animated features are my jam [18:12] walked into sophmore year chemistry class with this notebook: http://princessleia.com/images/journalpics/102011/high_school_binder.jpg [18:12] pleia2: oh wow. that's serious. :) [18:12] because obviously the thing you do before starting the year is make disney collages on your school notebooks [18:12] niiiiice [18:12] :) [18:13] the strangest thing about me was that i was obsessed with skate/surf culture. i was in cleveland. [18:13] hehe [18:14] also, I liked star wars http://princessleia.com/images/MyImages/Photos/bedroom/pl2sswsshelf.jpg [18:14] (needless to say, i still am, but now live in a more reasonable place for it) [18:14] WHOA [18:14] I worked a lot through high school to support my habit [18:14] hahahah [18:14] that's awesome [18:14] it is now! it wasnt then! [18:14] haha [18:15] i was mostly obsessed with music. and nothing like anyone else liked. [18:15] I mean, I always thought it was awesome [18:15] there was a point, after high school, mind you, where i'd literally spend my entire pay check on new music [18:15] nice [18:16] shortly after i had to move back home with my parents XD [18:16] so maybe not that nice, but hey [18:16] haha [18:18] pleia2: hah, thanks :) [18:19] oh god [18:19] i shouldn't even show this [18:20] http://www.monkeyview.net/id/990/memories/ihs/ek_freshman_prom.jpg [18:20] i'm sure you'll have no trouble guessing which one of those people is freshman me [18:20] that is epic [18:20] I didn't do dances/proms [18:20] the night of my senior prom a few of us instead went to an internet cafe in the city and then to an independent movie [18:20] by sophmore year i started to get a little freaky http://www.monkeyview.net/id/990/memories/ihs/_high_school_pic.jpg [18:21] and yes, that is a glow-in-the-dark halloween necklace-- even though it wasn't halloween [18:22] this was junior year.. sporting a french braided mohawk and my girlfriend from another high school (we met on irc) http://www.monkeyview.net/id/990/memories/ihs/_blake_ihs_dance.jpg [18:22] i am still not sure why i went to all the dances [18:22] that totally wasn't my thing [18:22] when I graduated: http://princessleia.com/images/MyImages/Photos/pl2/pl2graduated.jpg [18:23] I also always liked animals, with my pet rat! http://princessleia.com/images/MyImages/Photos/pl2/pl2wrat.jpg [18:23] and then there was graduation-- i had blossomed into a full-fledged freak-- http://www.monkeyview.net/id/990/memories/ihs/an_in_background.jpg (two people behind me are also irc friends from other high schools) [18:24] awww cute [18:24] i had 13 cats at one time :) [18:24] and pretty much the clothes I wore every day (I'm in the middle) http://princessleia.com/images/MyImages/Photos/pl2pd11kelly.jpg [18:24] oh the flannel shirts [18:24] very sensible [18:24] yep i had my fair share too [18:25] I pretty much dress the same now, haha [18:25] mostly swapped flannels for hoodies though [18:25] yeah i mostly haven't changed either [18:25] except i wear shorts more often [18:25] well [18:26] i guess i'm a little less gloomy looking [18:26] pleia2: what I enjoyed about having my hair done, was my 12 year old daughter telling my 40+ year old hairdresser sister the difference between French and Dutch plaits :) [18:26] in high school I had a thing for bright colored jeans (green, orange, etc), more borning now [18:26] popey: aww, that's awesome :) [18:28] yeah i'm way more colorful now [18:28] kind of funny [18:30] popey: so what is the difference? :) [18:31] over or under [18:31] i forget which is which :) [18:31] oh so it's like the difference between a latte and a macchicato :) [18:32] (I don't know that either) [18:32] the difference between them is the order the ingredients go in [18:33] funny that i know that as i don't drink either [18:33] hehe [19:00] popey: I saw it too ;) [19:01] I prefer to keep the same haircut, I think I've had the same sort of style since I was like 9 (5 years ago :P) [19:01] I never did mohawks or anything like that, I've always kept it clean and neat