| Bashing-om | End of session. yall have fun without me . | 03:46 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 11:40 |
| lotuspsychje | good afternoon to all | 12:04 |
| EriC^^ | hey lotuspsychje | 12:07 |
| lotuspsychje | hey EriC^^ how are you | 12:07 |
| EriC^^ | good you? | 12:08 |
| lotuspsychje | great here, lot of work :p | 12:08 |
| EriC^^ | cool how's it going? | 12:08 |
| lotuspsychje | very crowdy and big restaurant | 12:09 |
| lotuspsychje | so its kitchen nightmare :p | 12:09 |
| lotuspsychje | constantly working with 3 other guys | 12:09 |
| EriC^^ | cool | 12:10 |
| EriC^^ | free food? | 12:10 |
| lotuspsychje | yep i got 35min break and can choose whatever i like | 12:10 |
| EriC^^ | cool | 12:10 |
| lotuspsychje | and when the boss not around cold beer in the kitchen :p | 12:11 |
| EriC^^ | hehe | 12:11 |
| lotuspsychje | and ive ordered my VAT number for my business | 12:11 |
| EriC^^ | cool | 12:11 |
| EriC^^ | i've bought a laptop for the house recently | 12:11 |
| lotuspsychje | wich brand? | 12:12 |
| EriC^^ | lenovo g50-80 i3 2core 2.0ghz, 4gb ram, 500gb hdd | 12:12 |
| EriC^^ | it was just $355 | 12:12 |
| lotuspsychje | nice deal | 12:12 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 12:12 |
| EriC^^ | on my hp laptop the motherboard ate shit suddenly yesterday | 12:13 |
| lotuspsychje | i had a cheap lenovo before with ubuntu | 12:13 |
| lotuspsychje | running great | 12:13 |
| EriC^^ | it won't boot in uefi anymore, i converted to legacy and it's working | 12:13 |
| EriC^^ | it's a hp bug i think i saw lots of youtube videos | 12:13 |
| lotuspsychje | perhaps a bios update? | 12:14 |
| EriC^^ | nope didn't update | 12:14 |
| lotuspsychje | i mean you could check latest | 12:14 |
| EriC^^ | it just did it, the efi list disappeared completely O.o | 12:14 |
| EriC^^ | even without a hdd and just the live usb it wont boot uefi, it says Hard disk error (3F0) | 12:14 |
| lotuspsychje | yikes | 12:14 |
| EriC^^ | maybe i'll try to update the bios dunno though if it might go kaboom | 12:15 |
| EriC^^ | never updated bios before | 12:15 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: website should explain properly | 12:15 |
| lotuspsychje | some can with usb or cdrom | 12:15 |
| EriC^^ | at first i tried to convert gpt to msdos with gdisk | 12:16 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: or a windows recovery would that work? | 12:16 |
| EriC^^ | i think i've done it before without issues but somehow after that it said disk label not found | 12:16 |
| EriC^^ | i put the partitions back from an old paste, but when i mounted the filesystems everything was gone | 12:17 |
| EriC^^ | i was lucky that i had backed up stuff a day before so i just made new partitions and copied stuff over | 12:18 |
| EriC^^ | :D | 12:18 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 12:18 |
| lotuspsychje | perhaps set bios to defaults or so | 12:18 |
| lotuspsychje | and try bios update | 12:18 |
| EriC^^ | dunno | 12:20 |
| EriC^^ | its working now i guess i'll just leave it as it is | 12:20 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 12:20 |
| EriC^^ | somebody in ubuntu has the nick Ubotto | 12:22 |
| EriC^^ | first i thought bekks had lost his mind | 12:22 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah just following oO | 12:22 |
| Bashing-om | !info X-server wily | 19:45 |
| ubot5 | Package X-server does not exist in wily | 19:45 |
| daftykins | o/ you after a metapackage? | 19:49 |
| daftykins | !info xserver-xorg | 19:49 |
| ubot5 | xserver-xorg (source: xorg): X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.7+13ubuntu3 (xenial), package size 55 kB, installed size 240 kB | 19:49 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: Not sure what I am looking for . Working a Nvidia failure to install in the channel . Real hosed up conflicting situation . | 19:51 |
| daftykins | ah, got some mixed package versions or config remnants from a "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" ? | 19:52 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: Yeah anong others .. BumbleeBee/nvidia-prime .. strange PPAs .. working through all the crud . See all the fun you are missing ? | 20:02 |
| daftykins | :D indeed! | 20:02 |
| Bashing-om | 'nuf here to make a Preacher cuss . Patience Bashing-om ... patience . | 20:19 |
| daftykins | "oh my sweet Tux!" | 20:31 |
| Bashing-om | Gettimg there .. S L O W . Just about to the point to see what happens when 367 install is attempted . | 20:32 |
| Bashing-om | Nope ^ spoke too soon ,,, kernel headers . | 20:42 |
| daftykins | doh! | 21:03 |
| daftykins | is that not a manual website install thing? 0o | 21:03 |
| Bashing-om | Beginning to wonder seriously what the OP has been up too . trusty install with vivid, wily and xenial kernels ! | 21:07 |
| Switches | That's a good selection >.> but the drivers and modules love that system | 21:08 |
| Switches | bet* | 21:09 |
| daftykins | XD | 21:10 |
| daftykins | sounds like time to start over, who knows what HWE there is | 21:10 |
| Switches | Well would make it worse if the OP is using that many kernels and hasn't updated Xorg and mesa | 21:12 |
| Bashing-om | OH, I am going to poke at it .. Never can tell what I might learn .. there is more in the book that "I do not know" than is in the book " I know, I know " . | 21:12 |
| daftykins | mines not even a book, it's a notepad - and someone tore pages out! | 21:12 |
| Switches | I just have a piece of tissue and some scribbling... does that count? | 21:13 |
| daftykins | only if you have at least 2 colours of biro | 21:13 |
| daftykins | :> | 21:13 |
| Switches | biro?! its in crayon! | 21:13 |
| daftykins | ah that's ok, but are they in your mouth? | 21:14 |
| Switches | Na, only chocolate shortcake biscuits at the mo | 21:14 |
| daftykins | ooh nice | 21:14 |
| Switches | I'd still like to work out how this guy was running all those kernels, but managed to skip the dist-upgrades if it's still a trusty install | 21:15 |
| Bashing-om | Switches: Uh huh ... and see the list of what the package manager wants "autoremoved" ! . | 21:18 |
| Switches | Bashing-om: I should imagine the package manager is having nightmares with that | 21:19 |
| Bashing-om | Switches: I am a bit timid to apply .. think'n bout it .. prior to trying and see what happens with the driver install attempt . | 21:20 |
| Switches | Bashing-om: I'd be pretty cautious, atleast 2 or more totally unsupported kernels for the base system, APT is probably having a heartattack | 21:21 |
| Switches | How has he managed the kernel headers to build modules.. it must be a symlink spaghetti junction | 21:23 |
| Bashing-om | Switches: Yeah .,.. what I am looking at too : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-signed-image&searchon=names&suite=trusty-updates§ion=all . | 21:23 |
| Switches | Bashing-om: Holy crap... | 21:24 |
| daftykins | i'd bet the driver modules would take forever, then be done for the wrong kernels | 21:24 |
| Bashing-om | This MAY be a real learning experience , huh ? | 21:25 |
| daftykins | :D | 21:25 |
| daftykins | you're braver than me! | 21:25 |
| Switches | It will be.. just like the old days before dependency resolution | 21:26 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: My thouhgts, exactly ... why it has taken me as long as it has to arrive at this point . There are those who say the header version does not matter .. but I have my doubts ! | 21:26 |
| Switches | Bashing-om: Depends on what they mean by "doesn't matter". | 21:29 |
| Switches | The kernel headers are kinda important if your building a custom kernel, modules or have some "not so off the shelf" hardware | 21:30 |
| Bashing-om | Been my experience, I want the kernel and header and modules all to match, and I want to build a driver on the latest matching combination . | 21:32 |
| Switches | Always the best way, keeps things tidy and controllable | 21:32 |
| daftykins | me, i want Switches' shortbread | 21:34 |
| Switches | lol | 21:34 |
| daftykins | mmm i have chocolate mousse downstairs, brb! | 21:34 |
| Bashing-om | Ouch .. 4,2 series kernels are installed .. and OP advises a fresh install pf trusty. what gives guys ? That http://packages.ubuntu.com/ does not reflect that ? | 21:38 |
| Switches | Hmm would have to check if he had the 14.04.4 and the "updates on install" checked | 21:44 |
| Switches | 14.04.4 shipped with 4.2 I think | 21:45 |
| Bashing-om | Switches: Well ,, worth checking out . | 21:46 |
| Bashing-om | Switches: Yeah .. -wily not be officially supported until the 14.04.4 . so should be good to go . | 21:49 |
| daftykins | Switches: yep on 14.04.4 and 4.2, matches my memory at least | 21:51 |
| Switches | Well atleast that's one thing sorted :p | 21:51 |
| Switches | If he's running that though and I think you said an Nvidia-prime(?) he probably wont be able to use any of the newer releases of nvidia drivers. I think all the new ones need at least 1.18 xorg where Trusty was only 1.17 (think the last to use 1.17 was the 34x series drivers) | 21:57 |
| Switches | Unless ofc he has also built the Xorg and Mesa stacks on the local machine from source.. (in which case I would ask why the hell he needs help in the forums :p) | 21:58 |
| daftykins | XD | 21:59 |
| daftykins | i wonder if "history | grep kernel" would give away how the kernels were installed? either in and amongst HWE install commands or not | 21:59 |
| Switches | hm possibly that may be worth a shot | 22:00 |
| Switches | I just can't get the reasoning for it, unless something was broken and needed a newer kernel for support, why the hell update just on a whim like that. | 22:00 |
| Bashing-om | 364 installed .. see what the status is after the reboot . | 22:02 |
| Switches | I mean even if he was say a "audio" or "gamer" even that doesn't explain the choices as they would either be "realtime" or "lowlatency" kernels | 22:02 |
| Switches | Bashing-om: Good luck! | 22:03 |
| Switches | I need a coffee and a ciggy, this stuff has me baffled with how some people think.. | 22:04 |
| Bashing-om | Well .. I am limiting my intake of caffine, but a smoke sounds reasonabled to me .. back in a bit . | 22:05 |
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