[03:46] End of session. yall have fun without me . [11:40] Hi folks [12:04] good afternoon to all [12:07] hey lotuspsychje [12:07] hey EriC^^ how are you [12:08] good you? [12:08] great here, lot of work :p [12:08] cool how's it going? [12:09] very crowdy and big restaurant [12:09] so its kitchen nightmare :p [12:09] constantly working with 3 other guys [12:10] cool [12:10] free food? [12:10] yep i got 35min break and can choose whatever i like [12:10] cool [12:11] and when the boss not around cold beer in the kitchen :p [12:11] hehe [12:11] and ive ordered my VAT number for my business [12:11] cool [12:11] i've bought a laptop for the house recently [12:12] wich brand? [12:12] lenovo g50-80 i3 2core 2.0ghz, 4gb ram, 500gb hdd [12:12] it was just $355 [12:12] nice deal [12:12] yeah [12:13] on my hp laptop the motherboard ate shit suddenly yesterday [12:13] i had a cheap lenovo before with ubuntu [12:13] running great [12:13] it won't boot in uefi anymore, i converted to legacy and it's working [12:13] it's a hp bug i think i saw lots of youtube videos [12:14] perhaps a bios update? [12:14] nope didn't update [12:14] i mean you could check latest [12:14] it just did it, the efi list disappeared completely O.o [12:14] even without a hdd and just the live usb it wont boot uefi, it says Hard disk error (3F0) [12:14] yikes [12:15] maybe i'll try to update the bios dunno though if it might go kaboom [12:15] never updated bios before [12:15] EriC^^: website should explain properly [12:15] some can with usb or cdrom [12:16] at first i tried to convert gpt to msdos with gdisk [12:16] EriC^^: or a windows recovery would that work? [12:16] i think i've done it before without issues but somehow after that it said disk label not found [12:17] i put the partitions back from an old paste, but when i mounted the filesystems everything was gone [12:18] i was lucky that i had backed up stuff a day before so i just made new partitions and copied stuff over [12:18] :D [12:18] :p [12:18] perhaps set bios to defaults or so [12:18] and try bios update [12:20] dunno [12:20] its working now i guess i'll just leave it as it is [12:20] yeah [12:22] somebody in ubuntu has the nick Ubotto [12:22] first i thought bekks had lost his mind [12:22] yeah just following oO [19:45] !info X-server wily [19:45] Package X-server does not exist in wily [19:49] o/ you after a metapackage? [19:49] !info xserver-xorg [19:49] xserver-xorg (source: xorg): X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.7+13ubuntu3 (xenial), package size 55 kB, installed size 240 kB [19:51] daftykins: Not sure what I am looking for . Working a Nvidia failure to install in the channel . Real hosed up conflicting situation . [19:52] ah, got some mixed package versions or config remnants from a "dpkg -l | grep nvidia" ? [20:02] daftykins: Yeah anong others .. BumbleeBee/nvidia-prime .. strange PPAs .. working through all the crud . See all the fun you are missing ? [20:02] :D indeed! [20:19] 'nuf here to make a Preacher cuss . Patience Bashing-om ... patience . [20:31] "oh my sweet Tux!" [20:32] Gettimg there .. S L O W . Just about to the point to see what happens when 367 install is attempted . [20:42] Nope ^ spoke too soon ,,, kernel headers . [21:03] doh! [21:03] is that not a manual website install thing? 0o [21:07] Beginning to wonder seriously what the OP has been up too . trusty install with vivid, wily and xenial kernels ! [21:08] That's a good selection >.> but the drivers and modules love that system [21:09] bet* [21:10] XD [21:10] sounds like time to start over, who knows what HWE there is [21:12] Well would make it worse if the OP is using that many kernels and hasn't updated Xorg and mesa [21:12] OH, I am going to poke at it .. Never can tell what I might learn .. there is more in the book that "I do not know" than is in the book " I know, I know " . [21:12] mines not even a book, it's a notepad - and someone tore pages out! [21:13] I just have a piece of tissue and some scribbling... does that count? [21:13] only if you have at least 2 colours of biro [21:13] :> [21:13] biro?! its in crayon! [21:14] ah that's ok, but are they in your mouth? [21:14] Na, only chocolate shortcake biscuits at the mo [21:14] ooh nice [21:15] I'd still like to work out how this guy was running all those kernels, but managed to skip the dist-upgrades if it's still a trusty install [21:18] Switches: Uh huh ... and see the list of what the package manager wants "autoremoved" ! . [21:19] Bashing-om: I should imagine the package manager is having nightmares with that [21:20] Switches: I am a bit timid to apply .. think'n bout it .. prior to trying and see what happens with the driver install attempt . [21:21] Bashing-om: I'd be pretty cautious, atleast 2 or more totally unsupported kernels for the base system, APT is probably having a heartattack [21:23] How has he managed the kernel headers to build modules.. it must be a symlink spaghetti junction [21:23] Switches: Yeah .,.. what I am looking at too : http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=linux-signed-image&searchon=names&suite=trusty-updates§ion=all . [21:24] Bashing-om: Holy crap... [21:24] i'd bet the driver modules would take forever, then be done for the wrong kernels [21:25] This MAY be a real learning experience , huh ? [21:25] :D [21:25] you're braver than me! [21:26] It will be.. just like the old days before dependency resolution [21:26] daftykins: My thouhgts, exactly ... why it has taken me as long as it has to arrive at this point . There are those who say the header version does not matter .. but I have my doubts ! [21:29] Bashing-om: Depends on what they mean by "doesn't matter". [21:30] The kernel headers are kinda important if your building a custom kernel, modules or have some "not so off the shelf" hardware [21:32] Been my experience, I want the kernel and header and modules all to match, and I want to build a driver on the latest matching combination . [21:32] Always the best way, keeps things tidy and controllable [21:34] me, i want Switches' shortbread [21:34] lol [21:34] mmm i have chocolate mousse downstairs, brb! [21:38] Ouch .. 4,2 series kernels are installed .. and OP advises a fresh install pf trusty. what gives guys ? That http://packages.ubuntu.com/ does not reflect that ? [21:44] Hmm would have to check if he had the 14.04.4 and the "updates on install" checked [21:45] 14.04.4 shipped with 4.2 I think [21:46] Switches: Well ,, worth checking out . [21:49] Switches: Yeah .. -wily not be officially supported until the 14.04.4 . so should be good to go . [21:51] Switches: yep on 14.04.4 and 4.2, matches my memory at least [21:51] Well atleast that's one thing sorted :p [21:57] If he's running that though and I think you said an Nvidia-prime(?) he probably wont be able to use any of the newer releases of nvidia drivers. I think all the new ones need at least 1.18 xorg where Trusty was only 1.17 (think the last to use 1.17 was the 34x series drivers) [21:58] Unless ofc he has also built the Xorg and Mesa stacks on the local machine from source.. (in which case I would ask why the hell he needs help in the forums :p) [21:59] XD [21:59] i wonder if "history | grep kernel" would give away how the kernels were installed? either in and amongst HWE install commands or not [22:00] hm possibly that may be worth a shot [22:00] I just can't get the reasoning for it, unless something was broken and needed a newer kernel for support, why the hell update just on a whim like that. [22:02] 364 installed .. see what the status is after the reboot . [22:02] I mean even if he was say a "audio" or "gamer" even that doesn't explain the choices as they would either be "realtime" or "lowlatency" kernels [22:03] Bashing-om: Good luck! [22:04] I need a coffee and a ciggy, this stuff has me baffled with how some people think.. [22:05] Well .. I am limiting my intake of caffine, but a smoke sounds reasonabled to me .. back in a bit .