| captineza | theblazehen, been looking at Django too. Trying to learn python. | 04:26 |
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| theblazehen | Hey captineza. Neat | 04:26 |
| theblazehen | Also, bpython is a great repl if you wanna give it a go | 04:26 |
| captineza | theblazehen, looking into it. thanks | 04:36 |
| Kilos | morning all | 06:01 |
| theblazehen | Hey Kilos | 06:04 |
| Kilos | capetown weather, rain in midwinter | 06:25 |
| superfly | captineza: Flask. Don't bother with Django. You need Django like you need a hole in the head. | 06:41 |
| theblazehen | superfly: Interesting. Dev started working with django, he's not too impressed with the style of mvc. Would it be worth writing an e-commerce program from scratch in flask, or adapting saleor from django? | 06:42 |
| Kilos | hi Langjan | 06:44 |
| Langjan | 'Morning Kilos and the guys on this wet and chilly morning | 06:44 |
| Kilos | what broke | 06:44 |
| Langjan | the winter | 06:44 |
| Kilos | yip very chilly | 06:44 |
| Langjan | lit my fireplace this morning | 06:44 |
| Kilos | that can help | 06:45 |
| Langjan | 9° outside | 06:45 |
| Langjan | thats one below freezing for the bushveld | 06:45 |
| Kilos | i know, feet frozen, went to open gates for sis | 06:46 |
| superfly | theblazehen: I don't like Django for a number of technical and philosophical reasons. If you can work with Django then go ahead. If you are starting out, I recommend Flask because it's less opinionated and doesn't suffer the technical problems that Django does. | 06:46 |
| magespawn | highveld winter rain | 06:46 |
| magespawn | good morning | 06:46 |
| Langjan | sjoe, hey did you see me do that °? | 06:46 |
| superfly | hi magespawn, Langjan | 06:47 |
| superfly | Kilos: *prod* hi | 06:47 |
| Langjan | hi superfly you ok? | 06:47 |
| Kilos | hahaha well done | 06:47 |
| magespawn | maybe more than the feet are frozen | 06:47 |
| superfly | Langjan: I am fine. | 06:47 |
| Kilos | morning superfly magespawn | 06:47 |
| Langjan | I need a tweezer to do a piddle... | 06:48 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 06:48 |
| Langjan | lmga | 06:48 |
| Langjan | Any news on rent and visa Kilos ? | 06:49 |
| Kilos | rent being paid back in 5 days time | 06:49 |
| Kilos | visa nothing | 06:49 |
| Langjan | hey thats great news, then you can put pressure for visa again | 06:50 |
| Kilos | weird that after debs paid the deposit the second time they found the original deposit 3 weeks later | 06:50 |
| Langjan | pathetic, not weird | 06:51 |
| Kilos | she first has specialists to see on friday for biopsy on thryroid | 06:51 |
| Kilos | and they not cheap either | 06:51 |
| Langjan | she must claim interest and bank charges | 06:51 |
| Langjan | hope things go well for her | 06:52 |
| Kilos | they told her its the last agents fault not theirs | 06:52 |
| Kilos | ty | 06:52 |
| Kilos | we pray | 06:52 |
| Kilos | you may help as well | 06:52 |
| Langjan | they remain responsible | 06:52 |
| Langjan | will do | 06:52 |
| Langjan | pray for you every day | 06:53 |
| Kilos | ty | 06:53 |
| Langjan | my privilege | 06:53 |
| Kilos | pray the flu will go now | 06:53 |
| Langjan | and for Debs and Tara | 06:53 |
| Kilos | ty very much | 06:53 |
| Langjan | Is the flu still bugging you? | 06:54 |
| Kilos | yip worse today | 06:54 |
| Kilos | hehe | 06:54 |
| Langjan | Sorry to hear | 06:54 |
| Kilos | this is a strain from some other continent | 06:54 |
| Kilos | im not dead man | 06:54 |
| Langjan | We dont really get it any more, look after our immunity | 06:55 |
| Kilos | be orry when i dont answer you | 06:55 |
| Langjan | orry? | 06:55 |
| Kilos | sorry | 06:55 |
| Langjan | s | 06:55 |
| Langjan | wil be very sorry when that happens | 06:55 |
| Langjan | l | 06:55 |
| Kilos | i have never suffered with flu for more than 2 days but this one is immune to my meds | 06:55 |
| Langjan | What meds do you use? | 06:56 |
| Kilos | ive used honey and ginger and panado capsules and fluend and flustop and some other stuff from neighbour | 06:57 |
| Kilos | and a pile of vit c | 06:57 |
| magespawn | keep at it Kilos, maybe drop the medicated stuff depending on how long it has been | 06:58 |
| Langjan | Focus on Vit C | 06:58 |
| Kilos | everything dropped now | 06:58 |
| Kilos | only honey and ginger still | 06:58 |
| Langjan | Hit it with vit C, cannot overdose | 06:59 |
| Kilos | ill try get stronger vit c | 07:00 |
| Kilos | these were 500mg | 07:00 |
| Kilos | but im still up and about and doing daily chores | 07:00 |
| Langjan | Ascorbic acid, use lots of garlic also very good | 07:01 |
| Langjan | Ja part of the problem, you need rest | 07:01 |
| Kilos | oh yes garlic too but in combo with prostate pills bp drops dramatically | 07:01 |
| Langjan | OK I will go so you can get some rest and stop worrying about what broke | 07:02 |
| Kilos | lol ty you so kind | 07:03 |
| Kilos | is all good there my friend | 07:03 |
| Langjan | Yes thks Kilos | 07:03 |
| Kilos | stay in the warm place | 07:03 |
| Langjan | Take care and regards to Debs, strongs for her tests | 07:04 |
| Kilos | ty very much, keep well there | 07:04 |
| Langjan | You too, braai those sheep and use their coats for warmth | 07:04 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:04 |
| Langjan | Mooi loop my goeie vriend. Word gou gesond | 07:05 |
| Kilos | sal so maak dankie oom | 07:05 |
| Kilos | pas julle op | 07:05 |
| Langjan | Dankie sal so maak, maar Jesus pas ons op... | 07:05 |
| Kilos | mooi | 07:06 |
| Langjan | En vir jou | 07:06 |
| Kilos | hi anton_may TinuvaMac | 07:11 |
| Kilos | and inetpro | 07:12 |
| TinuvaMac | morning Kilos | 07:12 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 07:12 |
| inetpro | Kilos: 13mm this mornings | 07:13 |
| Kilos | yip same | 07:13 |
| Kilos | kinda cold though | 07:13 |
| anton_may | morning | 07:22 |
| theblazehen | hey anton_may | 07:23 |
| theblazehen | wb chesedo | 07:25 |
| paddatrapper | Good morning everyone | 07:33 |
| Kilos | hi paddatrapper | 07:37 |
| chesedo | ty theblazehen | 07:56 |
| chesedo | ... and morning all | 07:56 |
| theblazehen | 35 firefox tabs open, plus irc + terminals, only using 2.3 GB RAM. Linux is awesome. Not even using a lightweight WM, using full kde | 10:02 |
| MaNL | KiB Mem : 32903928 total, 1080448 free, 16686200 used, 15137280 buff/cache | 10:08 |
| MaNL | KiB Swap: 4194300 total, 4187836 free, 6464 used. 15114956 avail Mem | 10:08 |
| MaNL | really glad I picked up an extra 16GB | 10:08 |
| === MaNL is now known as MaNI | ||
| MaNI | though that is with 2x kde sessions, 2x firefox, 1x chrome, 1x opera, 3 kvm instances and a bunch of other junk :p | 10:12 |
| Kilos | wbb | 10:21 |
| theblazehen | superfly: Well, we're no longer going with django... | 11:13 |
| superfly | theblazehen: these days, where possible, I prefer to use an existing solution | 11:15 |
| theblazehen | MaNI: Desktop at home is using 13/20 GB RAM. Call it 150 firefox tabs, ~10 chrome tabs, lots of terminals. Have a dedicated vm host too. Has 32 GB RAM | 11:15 |
| theblazehen | superfly: As in build your application on an existing one? | 11:16 |
| theblazehen | Yeah, we *were* going to do that | 11:16 |
| theblazehen | wb spinza | 11:17 |
| superfly | theblazehen: no, use an open source or off-the-shelf solution | 11:17 |
| theblazehen | superfly: Ah okay. Well, saleor was a pre-built e-commerce kinda thing, just had to put our templates and integration with our order system in | 11:18 |
| theblazehen | Now we're going php with laravel.. | 11:18 |
| superfly | if you're going PHP there are some nice open source eCommerce solutions (NOT osCommerce) | 11:19 |
| theblazehen | yes, *not* osCommerce.. | 11:19 |
| superfly | https://arastta.org/ | 11:19 |
| theblazehen | kill me.. :( | 11:19 |
| theblazehen | Will give it a look, ty superfly | 11:20 |
| theblazehen | After osCommerce we used oxid | 11:20 |
| superfly | that one looks most promising to me. haven't used it, though. | 11:20 |
| superfly | theblazehen: also, PrestaShop | 11:20 |
| theblazehen | ty. Will look | 11:20 |
| theblazehen | superfly: You work in e commerce stuff? | 11:22 |
| superfly | nope | 11:22 |
| superfly | http://sylius.org/ | 11:22 |
| superfly | Just been involved in some over the years, so always had half an eye on it | 11:23 |
| theblazehen | cool | 11:23 |
| theblazehen | superfly: Have you tried xonsh? | 12:16 |
| theblazehen | I like it, mostly | 12:16 |
| theblazehen | I like it, but I like zsh more would be a more accurate statement | 12:16 |
| superfly | theblazehen: never heard of it | 12:17 |
| theblazehen | superfly: Take python and make it a shell | 12:17 |
| theblazehen | Better than bash | 12:17 |
| theblazehen | But zsh is a bit better than xonsh, for me | 12:17 |
| superfly | I am also a zsh person | 12:17 |
| * theblazehen tried fish. I don't like it. Only using it because I can put it into config management nicely | 12:19 | |
| * theblazehen must look more at antigen and zplug | 12:19 | |
| anton_may | Holy mother of....Microsoft buys LinkedIn for $26.2 billion | 13:10 |
| theblazehen | hmm. interesting | 13:12 |
| magespawn | oh well, guess they are going the same way as skype | 13:15 |
| anton_may | Will give it 12months then it's incoporated in one of their other products | 13:16 |
| magespawn | i am not going to take a paid account just to keep it | 13:29 |
| gremble | What's going the same way as skype? | 13:31 |
| anton_may | LinkedIn which was bought by MS for $26billion | 13:33 |
| magespawn | Nice for the people with shares | 13:36 |
| theblazehen | "<CO2> microsoft bought linkedin for 26.2 billion dollars, and it has 433 million users | 13:37 |
| theblazehen | <CO2> that's about 60 USD or 54 EUR per user" | 13:37 |
| theblazehen | wow | 13:37 |
| magespawn | wonder if they going to try for facebook | 13:37 |
| theblazehen | hi magellanic | 13:47 |
| Kilos | anton_may why dont you invite that guy with network connection probs here then its more hands on imo | 13:48 |
| Kilos | trying to sort issues via email is eina | 13:49 |
| magellanic | hey | 13:49 |
| Kilos | hi magellanic long time no see | 13:49 |
| magellanic | yes been a while | 13:50 |
| Kilos | you ok? | 13:51 |
| magellanic | who here was from hetzner again, just wanted to see if I could run something past them... | 13:51 |
| magellanic | yes all good, your side Kilos ? | 13:51 |
| Kilos | ok ty | 13:51 |
| Kilos | was thatgraemeguy but he has been missing for a while | 13:51 |
| superfly | http://blogs.microsoft.com/firehose/2016/06/13/microsoft-to-acquire-linkedin/ | 13:52 |
| superfly | yep, it's true | 13:52 |
| gremble | theblazehen, linkedin is valued at 25B atm while facebook is 328B I don't think so :P | 13:52 |
| Kilos | superfly do you know what happened to thatgraemguy | 13:52 |
| superfly | Kilos: nope | 13:52 |
| magellanic | hmm okay, thanks | 13:52 |
| theblazehen | gremble: Hey, I just copied what someone from #xkcd said | 13:52 |
| Kilos | magellanic hang on | 13:53 |
| Kilos | someone must have his email addy | 13:53 |
| gremble | oh theblazehen sorry, it was magespawn who wondered about whether they would go for facebook | 13:53 |
| pavlushka | Hello everyone! | 17:10 |
| theblazehen | hey pavlushka! | 17:48 |
| pavlushka | Hello theblazehen ! | 17:48 |
| Kilos | inetpro cold enough for you? | 17:49 |
| pavlushka | theblazehen: how is it going? | 17:49 |
| theblazehen | pavlushka: Good, ty, and you? | 17:52 |
| pavlushka | theblazehen: me too, thanks! | 17:52 |
| pavlushka | Kilos: inetpro will not answer, he is frozen. | 18:02 |
| Kilos | hahaha yes | 18:02 |
| Kilos | he rides motorcycle to work | 18:02 |
| Kilos | that is even colder than walking | 18:03 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 18:16 |
| Kilos | i go dive under blankets | 18:16 |
| captineza | eve all. superfly why dont you like Django? | 18:21 |
| captineza | :) | 18:24 |
| magespawn | good evening | 19:10 |
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