| czajkowski | morning | 07:38 |
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| ebel | morning | 07:39 |
| czajkowski | ebel: how's life? | 07:44 |
| slashbel | good morning! | 07:44 |
| czajkowski | slashbel: howdy | 07:44 |
| * slashbel hopes czajkowski is registered for next week | 07:45 | |
| czajkowski | slashbel: aye indeed, postal as I need to be in London at a conference | 07:47 |
| slashbel | you should have received your ballot paper by now | 07:47 |
| czajkowski | still weird having people who don't live in the UK vote on the matter adn many people who live here and it directly affects them not able to vote. | 07:47 |
| czajkowski | slashbel: only asked for it last week | 07:47 |
| czajkowski | as I have to be at a speakers dinner on the 22nd and then speaking on the 23rd in London | 07:47 |
| czajkowski | it's not good for the stay camp over here | 07:48 |
| slashbel | as i said on twitter, UK emigrants can vote in UK General Elections and Referundums for upto 15 years after leaving | 07:48 |
| czajkowski | especially where I live, I'm going to a talk tonight for the stay camp but this area is heavy exit. | 07:48 |
| czajkowski | slashbel: aye I know ye can. I just don't think it should be the case imo. | 07:48 |
| czajkowski | not becaise of this topic but I also won't vote in Irish ones. | 07:49 |
| slashbel | i vote by post in Cheltenham, as that's the last place I was registered | 07:49 |
| czajkowski | as I'm not there and dont think its fair of me to have my say in a place I don't live | 07:49 |
| czajkowski | if that makes sense | 07:49 |
| czajkowski | again not judging just my own logic on this matter | 07:49 |
| slashbel | usually I would agree, but brexit really affects british emigrants in the rest of the EU | 07:49 |
| czajkowski | counter argument is it directly affects those living in the UK and they cannot vote | 07:50 |
| czajkowski | :s | 07:50 |
| czajkowski | it's not a good situation to be in tbh | 07:50 |
| slashbel | considering that most emigrants will be voting remain, it's a good thing in this case | 07:51 |
| ebel | yeah EU citizens in the UK should be allowed vote in this | 07:51 |
| czajkowski | aye but not all are | 07:51 |
| czajkowski | it is what it is | 07:51 |
| czajkowski | I hope it passes but I suspect it won't tbh. | 07:52 |
| czajkowski | there are far too many people unhappy and are voting and not thinking about the long term prospects | 07:52 |
| slashbel | aye, the UK will be fucked | 07:53 |
| slashbel | or rather, England, Wales and Northern Ireland will be fucked | 07:53 |
| czajkowski | it may force a vote on the N. Ireland situaion which would be good | 07:53 |
| slashbel | i don't know about that, it's a delicate situation | 07:54 |
| czajkowski | well that's my only silver lining | 07:57 |
| ebel | There's going to be so many brexit voters disappointed by any outcome | 08:22 |
| ebel | They think they can get everything they have already and not be in the EU. They have been lied to by people, and they believe that | 08:22 |
| ebel | and they could be due for a wake up call | 08:22 |
| czajkowski | well indeed | 08:30 |
| czajkowski | Where I live it's a heavy Por Exit area, surrounded by UKIP and Tories. | 08:30 |
| czajkowski | tonight I'm going to a talk for pro stay. Namely just to support and also discusss should people who wish to leave join us. | 08:31 |
| ebel | I heard some internesting points re: N. Ireland, (i) if there are border controls up, then the economic case for a united ireland becomes more attrative | 08:32 |
| slashbel | however they will require heavy subsidy from the EU for development and security | 08:33 |
| ebel | (ii) Nationalists are pro-remain, unionists are pro-leave. The nationist community might be annoyed at being dragged out of EU due to unionist, and *english* voters, carrying it | 08:33 |
| czajkowski | ebel: aye exactly so it may force a referendum there. | 08:35 |
| slashbel | but does Dublin want the likes of Iris Robinson in the Dáil and potential Ulster terrorists traveling south | 08:49 |
| ebel | czajkowski: another thing to keep in mind: Various EU countries have elections in the next 1->2 years, and there are right wing outsider political parties who are probrexit and they would benefit from a good deal for the UK if it left. | 08:50 |
| slashbel | unless the UK was severly punished for leaving | 08:51 |
| slashbel | made an example of | 08:51 |
| czajkowski | nods true true | 08:53 |
| czajkowski | I'm not the one that needs conviencing though :) | 08:53 |
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