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=== zmoylan-1i is now known as zmoylan-pi
mapppshi;]06:24
mapppsugh getting hard to sleep again hot and sticky06:33
mapppscant have the windw open.bugs and noise from building outside;/]06:33
zmoylan-pia nice fan to add a breeze to your room06:39
mapppsthey make a noise thuough..tihink thatd take some getting used to!!06:46
JamesTaitGood morning all!  Happy Tuesday, and happy World Blood Donor Day! 😃08:09
SuperMattI've never donated blood08:10
davmor2Morning all08:11
knightwisemorning peeps08:22
SuperMattpeep peep chirp chirp08:25
foobarrymeh emh08:28
foobarrycan't even spell meh today08:28
davmor2foobarry: that's a real meh of a day then08:29
knightwisehey SuperMatt , foobarry08:30
knightwiseAbout to order a new microphone to re-juvinate my podcasting activities08:30
diploTis easy to donate blood, must really book myself back in again09:02
popeyyeah, i haven't done it for years09:07
popeyMy brother did it and immediately fainted :)09:07
foobarryis he skinny?09:09
foobarryor didn't drink the sugary tea?09:10
brobostigonmorning boys and girls09:16
diploI started taking a lot of medication so stopped, and tbh the amount of samples they've taken out of me I'm not sure I could have donated any more09:18
Myrttimen can and often should donate more than women09:18
popeyfoobarry: yes, tall and skinny09:19
popeyhe walked over, got a cup of tea, sat down and then flaked out09:20
popeyI'm not allowed to give blood anymore :(09:20
foobarrybecause you went to the USA?09:22
diploI suppose you need it more as you get older :D09:22
popeyhaha09:22
popeyno, had an undiagnosed heart condition09:22
foobarrythere's a prevalent idiot virus in the states09:22
popeyso now they don't want it :(09:22
foobarryoh, are you ok?09:22
foobarryneed to take pills?09:23
popeyundiagnosed being the key word :)09:23
foobarrynow fixed? or managed09:23
popeyneither09:24
foobarryhaven't shown the doctor?09:24
diploSo saftey related, as in they don't want to tax it to much09:24
popeyyes, again, undiagnosed09:24
popeydon't know what, no action needed apparently09:24
foobarryoh i see09:24
foobarryi think09:24
popey"Hello, this happens sometimes". "Interest, that could be a or b". "Ok, which is it". "Dunno without capturing it happening, how often does it happen?". "Randomly". "Unlucky". "bye"09:25
popeyheart goes mad. beats fast, like super fast, can see my chest moving09:26
diplo:/ - my condition is also undiagnosed, 3-4 years - 9 MRIs, 2 CT's, cameras everywhere, scans of eyes, electric probes all over my upper body09:36
diploGiven up now, just trying to fix it by being healthier, ( Given up smoking ) walk more, cycle more etc and given up bad foods and drink09:37
TwistedLuciditypopey: That would freak me the hell out.09:57
popeyyes. that09:57
popeycan happen any time09:57
TwistedLucidityHandy in boring meetings though "Sorry, must leave, might be dying" *run away*09:57
popeyhave figured out how to stop it most of the time. Hold breath and push chest really hard internally. usually does it09:57
popeyhaha09:57
popeyunfortunately it's never happened in a meeting :)09:57
popeybut it *might*09:58
* popey notes09:58
TwistedLuciditySounds like some weird fibrilation thingy; but I'm no cardio-wizard09:58
knightwiseWhat exactly happens ?10:01
TwistedLucidityI'm imagining that scene from "Alien"10:01
popeyhah10:02
popeyheart goes from whatever speed it was, to very fast10:02
popeylike, instantly10:02
popeyI've seen it described as a 'short circuit' in the heart10:02
TwistedLuciditySome random tissue, salt imbalance of some kind; many things can upset the electrical wave/pace10:03
* Laney has been trying to call the blood people this morning to make an appointment10:28
Laneythey don't answer10:28
foobarryjust turn up10:30
foobarrymight have changed since i last did it 20yr ago10:30
foobarrycompany advertised awesome job. didn't reply to email or phone call :(10:31
foobarrycould just be HR that suck, no way of knowing10:32
foobarrymy dog loves watching shaun the sheep10:45
foobarryproperly watching. disinterestd in most other programmes10:45
foobarryhttp://i.imgur.com/V0okE83.jpg10:45
foobarryhe comes in to watch it every day10:45
AzelphurWell this is fun, my ISP is threatening to terminate my connection, telling me I'm seeding certain copyright torrents. Funny part is while I do torrent, The stuff they are accusing me of is completely untrue12:38
AzelphurTempted to call back and find out the company making the accusations so I can go after them12:41
TwistedLucidityGo after them for what?12:41
AzelphurMy first thoughts would be harassment and possibly entrapment12:41
Azelphurand maybe computer misuse act12:41
Azelphurat the very least harassment applies, making false accusations in order to have my connection terminated isn't good12:42
TwistedLucidityIf they are invoking the DMCA (or the EU equivalent) then you don't have a leg to stand on I'm afraid, there is no defence against false accusations12:42
foobarryit's probably based on IP12:42
foobarrymaybe a previous user of that ip address12:43
foobarryor are you on ipv6 only?12:43
TwistedLucidityAll they'll say is "Oh, we have a reasonable belief it was infringing..." and that's that.12:43
Azelphurfoobarry: nope, the accusations are timestamped12:43
foobarrychecked your logs? maybe neighbours?12:43
TwistedLucidityfoobarry: Which is why the ISP should be checking the IP against the time of the infringement12:43
AzelphurTwistedLucidity: loss of income could be another one :)12:43
Azelphurfoobarry: I don't think there's much log wise I can check? I have a router running AsusWRT-Merlin, no dodgy connected clients12:44
AzelphurUnless someones broke the WPA2 and is mac spoofing or something12:44
foobarryseems unlikely12:44
TwistedLucidityMost likely: 1) False positive; or 2) ISP dropped a clanger when matching IP to time12:45
AzelphurIndeed it does12:45
AzelphurTwistedLucidity: It could well be option 212:45
Azelphurbasically, they accused me of 4 different infringements, but I only know the details of two of them12:46
foobarrynobody's perfect12:46
foobarryfar from it12:46
TwistedLucidityI'm so close to it, it's terrifying12:46
TwistedLucidity:-P12:46
AzelphurThe first, Terminator Genesis supposedly on the 9th. Yes, we did download Terminator Genesis...6 months ago, it's no longer in our client and hasn't been since then12:47
AzelphurThe 2nd, Batman vs Superman 2016. No idea what they are even on about, never downloaded it.12:47
TwistedLucidityOh...legit or not legit?12:47
AzelphurTwistedLucidity: as I say I do download stuff, just not the stuff they are accussing me of :)12:48
Azelphurfor now I've shut the torrent client down period though, I'll run it on a server elsewhere12:48
foobarryis there an EU DMCA?12:48
TwistedLucidityfoobarry: Yes, forget the name12:48
AzelphurCopyright Directive?12:49
TwistedLucidityAzelphur: Torrent has legit uses (e.g. distros). I don't use it as Virgin seems to detect torrents and hammer the connection12:49
AzelphurTwistedLucidity: indeed it does :)12:49
TwistedLucidity"Electronic Commerce Directive" I think12:50
AzelphurIt's worrying though as I say, we got one notice and I went into "Ok, time to stop torrenting movies mode" then we got another two when I'm not doing anything, fun times :P12:50
TwistedLucidityOK, there is now an option 3) They have you bang to rights, but misquoted what they caught you for.12:51
TwistedLuciditySo...sorry, I don't think you have a leg to stand on here. Lay low for a while.12:52
davmor2JamesTait: missed todays topic you must of logged on when I had to reboot :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqmKbhIcTn0 I think covers it though :)12:52
foobarryyou have an option to blame the correct ones on a guest, and you don't recognise the other ones, but say it won't happen again12:53
foobarrylots of movie companies send direct mail to our security guy when students download stuff12:54
foobarrye.g. paramount12:54
foobarrychecks the helpdesk12:54
Azelphuryea, plenty of options12:54
Azelphurbut as I say hopefully no more torrenting puts a stop to it12:54
foobarryInitial Infringement Timestamp: 06 Dec 2014 19:05:50 GMT12:55
foobarryInfringers IP Address:12:55
foobarryProtocol: BitTorrent12:55
foobarryInfringed Work: Sweeney Todd12:55
foobarryInfringing File Name: Sweeney Todd (2007) 1080p BrRip x264 - 1.7GB - YIFY12:55
foobarryetc12:55
AzelphurYea, I have the same stuff12:55
foobarrywe don't get cut off12:55
foobarrybut the students testicles are12:55
diploWe had one at work the other month, only 2 of us here, static IP, never heard of the thing they were accusing us of downloading12:57
diploHad to google it12:57
Azelphuryea, I've heard there's a high error rate12:57
diploHad the same IP for 2 years +12:57
Azelphurhttp://pastebin.com/7Y8rEC8p are the two I have12:58
Azelphurthey actually blocked my connection this morning, had to call them and speak to them12:59
diploHindi+English, why would you download Hindi + English, I'm assuming there are plenty of non Hindi versions13:00
zmoylan-pihe wants to see shakespeare in the original hindi of course... :-P13:00
diploDoes sounds like something is wrong, and 493mb seems rather small :)13:00
Azelphurindeed13:00
AzelphurGive me a telling off for things I've done, fair enough. Cut my internet off after I've stopped for things I haven't done? not cool :<13:01
TwistedLucidityAnother option is that something you are hosting has become compromised.13:03
AzelphurIndeed an option, I did a ps aux on all my boxes and couldn't find anything that seems like it13:03
popey13:47 < Azelphur> The first, Terminator Genesis supposedly on the 9th. Yes, we did download Terminator Genesis...6 months ago, it's no longer in our client and hasn't been since then13:03
popey^ nice public log13:03
Azelphurpopey: heh, indeed :)13:03
TwistedLucidityWordpress, owncloud etc13:03
popeyYour credibility is lost when you post stuff like that13:04
popeywahh waah, my connection, I'll sue13:04
popey"yeah, I did do that"13:04
popeyzero sympathy13:04
Azelphurpopey: heh, personally I'm a fan of being punished for the crimes you committed as opposed to the ones you didn't, but each to his own13:04
popeyyou *just* admitted to it13:05
popeywhether their ip / date was right or not, you still admitted it13:05
Azelphurno, I specifically said the events they are accusing me of did not happen, in fact the infringement they terminated my connection for did not happen, ever, it's not just that the timestamp was wrong, it's that it simply didn't happen13:05
TwistedLucidityIf that's true; stand your ground and argue your case. Just don't admit your /other/ infringements whilst doing so13:07
Azelphurindeed13:07
Azelphurthat's my best move really13:07
TwistedLucidityAnd, also, stop it13:07
AzelphurTwistedLucidity: I stopped it weeks ago, before the last two accusations dropped in13:07
Azelphurthe connection is back too, they asked me to audit my network, don't see anything untoward in the router13:08
Azelphurand I've checked all my machines aren't running any torrent software13:08
WobboI am not sure how to say about a irritating thing. It is about the titles of app. It about missing information if a app is opened full screen or not. I made to screenshots: http://pasteboard.co/1FZbEjgZ.jpg | http://pasteboard.co/1FZdBZ5j.jpg I have this problem widht stuff like  Chrome, Geany, Aptana, Gimp... I hape someone kan help me.13:09
AzelphurTwistedLucidity: as for ownCloud compromises and such, all my services run in isolated kvm and everything in netstat is accounted for13:10
Azelphurodd things :)13:11
TwistedLucidityI need to get fail2ban running on mine.....13:11
Azelphurno more torrenting anyway, hopefully this is the end of it13:13
TwistedLucidity What grates my carrot is that I'd like to run a wee seedbox for various distros, but I can't as my ISP would murder the connection.13:21
AzelphurTwistedLucidity: my ISP is quite nice, no blocking or shaping, which is cool13:22
TwistedLucidityMine at least publishes their throttling thresholds. Maybe I can wort out how to use QoS (or something) to ensure I stay below them13:23
AzelphurTwistedLucidity: I want to get a box from kimsufi if I can13:29
Azelphurunlimited bandwith, I'd seed all the Linux ISOs :)13:29
TwistedLuciditySeed "Big Buck Bunny" and the other Blender stuff too. Bound to be more media that's legal to share.13:30
AzelphurTwistedLucidity: yea, there's lots of good stuff, I liked Pioneer one13:34
foobarryWe've accepted your order, and we're getting it ready. A confirmation email has been sent14:50
foobarrypi zero still hasn't been shipped14:50
foobarrymaybe they don't actually have any after all14:50
SebthreeBQM10HDff15:15
SebthreeBQM10HDQUESTION: WHere would the two of you from Florida llive  if outside of the US and why?15:52
SebthreeBQM10HDwhhops wtrong chan15:53
niks\join #lad16:34
* diddledan__ sneaks in the back door21:16
* zmoylan-pi is notified by pir unit and turns on night vision goggles...21:16
diddledan__http://news.rhapsody.com/2016/06/14/rhapsody-becoming-napster/21:16
daftykins:>21:17
diddledan__the twitters are saying it must be april fools' day21:17
zmoylan-pirussian april fools day21:17
diddledan__so apple did something yesterday and the internets melted, right?21:19
zmoylan-piapple did something yesterday and the world went 'meh'21:20
daftykinswhich is normal for Apple :D21:20
daftykinsthe shark was jumped21:20
zmoylan-pims buying linkedin seems to have been the bigger story21:20
diddledan__siri on the mac. whodathunkit21:20
diddledan__aye the ms news made the national telly21:21
zmoylan-piwhereas siri on the mac desktop didn't? the shock!21:22

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