[06:24] <mappps> hi;]
[06:33] <mappps> ugh getting hard to sleep again hot and sticky
[06:33] <mappps> cant have the windw open.bugs and noise from building outside;/]
[06:39] <zmoylan-pi> a nice fan to add a breeze to your room
[06:46] <mappps> they make a noise thuough..tihink thatd take some getting used to!!
[08:09] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Tuesday, and happy World Blood Donor Day! 😃
[08:10] <SuperMatt> I've never donated blood
[08:11] <davmor2> Morning all
[08:22] <knightwise> morning peeps
[08:25] <SuperMatt> peep peep chirp chirp
[08:28] <foobarry> meh emh
[08:28] <foobarry> can't even spell meh today
[08:29] <davmor2> foobarry: that's a real meh of a day then
[08:30] <knightwise> hey SuperMatt , foobarry
[08:30] <knightwise> About to order a new microphone to re-juvinate my podcasting activities
[09:02] <diplo> Tis easy to donate blood, must really book myself back in again
[09:07] <popey> yeah, i haven't done it for years
[09:07] <popey> My brother did it and immediately fainted :)
[09:09] <foobarry> is he skinny?
[09:10] <foobarry> or didn't drink the sugary tea?
[09:16] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls
[09:18] <diplo> I started taking a lot of medication so stopped, and tbh the amount of samples they've taken out of me I'm not sure I could have donated any more
[09:18] <Myrtti> men can and often should donate more than women
[09:19] <popey> foobarry: yes, tall and skinny
[09:20] <popey> he walked over, got a cup of tea, sat down and then flaked out
[09:20] <popey> I'm not allowed to give blood anymore :(
[09:22] <foobarry> because you went to the USA?
[09:22] <diplo> I suppose you need it more as you get older :D
[09:22] <popey> haha
[09:22] <popey> no, had an undiagnosed heart condition
[09:22] <foobarry> there's a prevalent idiot virus in the states
[09:22] <popey> so now they don't want it :(
[09:22] <foobarry> oh, are you ok?
[09:23] <foobarry> need to take pills?
[09:23] <popey> undiagnosed being the key word :)
[09:23] <foobarry> now fixed? or managed
[09:24] <popey> neither
[09:24] <foobarry> haven't shown the doctor?
[09:24] <diplo> So saftey related, as in they don't want to tax it to much
[09:24] <popey> yes, again, undiagnosed
[09:24] <popey> don't know what, no action needed apparently
[09:24] <foobarry> oh i see
[09:24] <foobarry> i think
[09:25] <popey> "Hello, this happens sometimes". "Interest, that could be a or b". "Ok, which is it". "Dunno without capturing it happening, how often does it happen?". "Randomly". "Unlucky". "bye"
[09:26] <popey> heart goes mad. beats fast, like super fast, can see my chest moving
[09:36] <diplo> :/ - my condition is also undiagnosed, 3-4 years - 9 MRIs, 2 CT's, cameras everywhere, scans of eyes, electric probes all over my upper body
[09:37] <diplo> Given up now, just trying to fix it by being healthier, ( Given up smoking ) walk more, cycle more etc and given up bad foods and drink
[09:57] <TwistedLucidity> popey: That would freak me the hell out.
[09:57] <popey> yes. that
[09:57] <popey> can happen any time
[09:57] <TwistedLucidity> Handy in boring meetings though "Sorry, must leave, might be dying" *run away*
[09:57] <popey> have figured out how to stop it most of the time. Hold breath and push chest really hard internally. usually does it
[09:57] <popey> haha
[09:57] <popey> unfortunately it's never happened in a meeting :)
[09:58] <popey> but it *might*
[09:58]  * popey notes
[09:58] <TwistedLucidity> Sounds like some weird fibrilation thingy; but I'm no cardio-wizard
[10:01] <knightwise> What exactly happens ?
[10:01] <TwistedLucidity> I'm imagining that scene from "Alien"
[10:02] <popey> hah
[10:02] <popey> heart goes from whatever speed it was, to very fast
[10:02] <popey> like, instantly
[10:02] <popey> I've seen it described as a 'short circuit' in the heart
[10:03] <TwistedLucidity> Some random tissue, salt imbalance of some kind; many things can upset the electrical wave/pace
[10:28]  * Laney has been trying to call the blood people this morning to make an appointment
[10:28] <Laney> they don't answer
[10:30] <foobarry> just turn up
[10:30] <foobarry> might have changed since i last did it 20yr ago
[10:31] <foobarry> company advertised awesome job. didn't reply to email or phone call :(
[10:32] <foobarry> could just be HR that suck, no way of knowing
[10:45] <foobarry> my dog loves watching shaun the sheep
[10:45] <foobarry> properly watching. disinterestd in most other programmes
[10:45] <foobarry> http://i.imgur.com/V0okE83.jpg
[10:45] <foobarry> he comes in to watch it every day
[12:38] <Azelphur> Well this is fun, my ISP is threatening to terminate my connection, telling me I'm seeding certain copyright torrents. Funny part is while I do torrent, The stuff they are accusing me of is completely untrue
[12:41] <Azelphur> Tempted to call back and find out the company making the accusations so I can go after them
[12:41] <TwistedLucidity> Go after them for what?
[12:41] <Azelphur> My first thoughts would be harassment and possibly entrapment
[12:41] <Azelphur> and maybe computer misuse act
[12:42] <Azelphur> at the very least harassment applies, making false accusations in order to have my connection terminated isn't good
[12:42] <TwistedLucidity> If they are invoking the DMCA (or the EU equivalent) then you don't have a leg to stand on I'm afraid, there is no defence against false accusations
[12:42] <foobarry> it's probably based on IP
[12:43] <foobarry> maybe a previous user of that ip address
[12:43] <foobarry> or are you on ipv6 only?
[12:43] <TwistedLucidity> All they'll say is "Oh, we have a reasonable belief it was infringing..." and that's that.
[12:43] <Azelphur> foobarry: nope, the accusations are timestamped
[12:43] <foobarry> checked your logs? maybe neighbours?
[12:43] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Which is why the ISP should be checking the IP against the time of the infringement
[12:43] <Azelphur> TwistedLucidity: loss of income could be another one :)
[12:44] <Azelphur> foobarry: I don't think there's much log wise I can check? I have a router running AsusWRT-Merlin, no dodgy connected clients
[12:44] <Azelphur> Unless someones broke the WPA2 and is mac spoofing or something
[12:44] <foobarry> seems unlikely
[12:45] <TwistedLucidity> Most likely: 1) False positive; or 2) ISP dropped a clanger when matching IP to time
[12:45] <Azelphur> Indeed it does
[12:45] <Azelphur> TwistedLucidity: It could well be option 2
[12:46] <Azelphur> basically, they accused me of 4 different infringements, but I only know the details of two of them
[12:46] <foobarry> nobody's perfect
[12:46] <foobarry> far from it
[12:46] <TwistedLucidity> I'm so close to it, it's terrifying
[12:46] <TwistedLucidity> :-P
[12:47] <Azelphur> The first, Terminator Genesis supposedly on the 9th. Yes, we did download Terminator Genesis...6 months ago, it's no longer in our client and hasn't been since then
[12:47] <Azelphur> The 2nd, Batman vs Superman 2016. No idea what they are even on about, never downloaded it.
[12:47] <TwistedLucidity> Oh...legit or not legit?
[12:48] <Azelphur> TwistedLucidity: as I say I do download stuff, just not the stuff they are accussing me of :)
[12:48] <Azelphur> for now I've shut the torrent client down period though, I'll run it on a server elsewhere
[12:48] <foobarry> is there an EU DMCA?
[12:48] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Yes, forget the name
[12:49] <Azelphur> Copyright Directive?
[12:49] <TwistedLucidity> Azelphur: Torrent has legit uses (e.g. distros). I don't use it as Virgin seems to detect torrents and hammer the connection
[12:49] <Azelphur> TwistedLucidity: indeed it does :)
[12:50] <TwistedLucidity> "Electronic Commerce Directive" I think
[12:50] <Azelphur> It's worrying though as I say, we got one notice and I went into "Ok, time to stop torrenting movies mode" then we got another two when I'm not doing anything, fun times :P
[12:51] <TwistedLucidity> OK, there is now an option 3) They have you bang to rights, but misquoted what they caught you for.
[12:52] <TwistedLucidity> So...sorry, I don't think you have a leg to stand on here. Lay low for a while.
[12:52] <davmor2> JamesTait: missed todays topic you must of logged on when I had to reboot :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqmKbhIcTn0 I think covers it though :)
[12:53] <foobarry> you have an option to blame the correct ones on a guest, and you don't recognise the other ones, but say it won't happen again
[12:54] <foobarry> lots of movie companies send direct mail to our security guy when students download stuff
[12:54] <foobarry> e.g. paramount
[12:54] <foobarry> checks the helpdesk
[12:54] <Azelphur> yea, plenty of options
[12:54] <Azelphur> but as I say hopefully no more torrenting puts a stop to it
[12:55] <foobarry> Initial Infringement Timestamp: 06 Dec 2014 19:05:50 GMT
[12:55] <foobarry> Infringers IP Address:
[12:55] <foobarry> Protocol: BitTorrent
[12:55] <foobarry> Infringed Work: Sweeney Todd
[12:55] <foobarry> Infringing File Name: Sweeney Todd (2007) 1080p BrRip x264 - 1.7GB - YIFY
[12:55] <foobarry> etc
[12:55] <Azelphur> Yea, I have the same stuff
[12:55] <foobarry> we don't get cut off
[12:55] <foobarry> but the students testicles are
[12:57] <diplo> We had one at work the other month, only 2 of us here, static IP, never heard of the thing they were accusing us of downloading
[12:57] <diplo> Had to google it
[12:57] <Azelphur> yea, I've heard there's a high error rate
[12:57] <diplo> Had the same IP for 2 years +
[12:58] <Azelphur> http://pastebin.com/7Y8rEC8p are the two I have
[12:59] <Azelphur> they actually blocked my connection this morning, had to call them and speak to them
[13:00] <diplo> Hindi+English, why would you download Hindi + English, I'm assuming there are plenty of non Hindi versions
[13:00] <zmoylan-pi> he wants to see shakespeare in the original hindi of course... :-P
[13:00] <diplo> Does sounds like something is wrong, and 493mb seems rather small :)
[13:00] <Azelphur> indeed
[13:01] <Azelphur> Give me a telling off for things I've done, fair enough. Cut my internet off after I've stopped for things I haven't done? not cool :<
[13:03] <TwistedLucidity> Another option is that something you are hosting has become compromised.
[13:03] <Azelphur> Indeed an option, I did a ps aux on all my boxes and couldn't find anything that seems like it
[13:03] <popey> 13:47 < Azelphur> The first, Terminator Genesis supposedly on the 9th. Yes, we did download Terminator Genesis...6 months ago, it's no longer in our client and hasn't been since then
[13:03] <popey> ^ nice public log
[13:03] <Azelphur> popey: heh, indeed :)
[13:03] <TwistedLucidity> Wordpress, owncloud etc
[13:04] <popey> Your credibility is lost when you post stuff like that
[13:04] <popey> wahh waah, my connection, I'll sue
[13:04] <popey> "yeah, I did do that"
[13:04] <popey> zero sympathy
[13:04] <Azelphur> popey: heh, personally I'm a fan of being punished for the crimes you committed as opposed to the ones you didn't, but each to his own
[13:05] <popey> you *just* admitted to it
[13:05] <popey> whether their ip / date was right or not, you still admitted it
[13:05] <Azelphur> no, I specifically said the events they are accusing me of did not happen, in fact the infringement they terminated my connection for did not happen, ever, it's not just that the timestamp was wrong, it's that it simply didn't happen
[13:07] <TwistedLucidity> If that's true; stand your ground and argue your case. Just don't admit your /other/ infringements whilst doing so
[13:07] <Azelphur> indeed
[13:07] <Azelphur> that's my best move really
[13:07] <TwistedLucidity> And, also, stop it
[13:07] <Azelphur> TwistedLucidity: I stopped it weeks ago, before the last two accusations dropped in
[13:08] <Azelphur> the connection is back too, they asked me to audit my network, don't see anything untoward in the router
[13:08] <Azelphur> and I've checked all my machines aren't running any torrent software
[13:09] <Wobbo> I am not sure how to say about a irritating thing. It is about the titles of app. It about missing information if a app is opened full screen or not. I made to screenshots: http://pasteboard.co/1FZbEjgZ.jpg | http://pasteboard.co/1FZdBZ5j.jpg I have this problem widht stuff like  Chrome, Geany, Aptana, Gimp... I hape someone kan help me.
[13:10] <Azelphur> TwistedLucidity: as for ownCloud compromises and such, all my services run in isolated kvm and everything in netstat is accounted for
[13:11] <Azelphur> odd things :)
[13:11] <TwistedLucidity> I need to get fail2ban running on mine.....
[13:13] <Azelphur> no more torrenting anyway, hopefully this is the end of it
[13:21] <TwistedLucidity>  What grates my carrot is that I'd like to run a wee seedbox for various distros, but I can't as my ISP would murder the connection.
[13:22] <Azelphur> TwistedLucidity: my ISP is quite nice, no blocking or shaping, which is cool
[13:23] <TwistedLucidity> Mine at least publishes their throttling thresholds. Maybe I can wort out how to use QoS (or something) to ensure I stay below them
[13:29] <Azelphur> TwistedLucidity: I want to get a box from kimsufi if I can
[13:29] <Azelphur> unlimited bandwith, I'd seed all the Linux ISOs :)
[13:30] <TwistedLucidity> Seed "Big Buck Bunny" and the other Blender stuff too. Bound to be more media that's legal to share.
[13:34] <Azelphur> TwistedLucidity: yea, there's lots of good stuff, I liked Pioneer one
[14:50] <foobarry> We've accepted your order, and we're getting it ready. A confirmation email has been sent
[14:50] <foobarry> pi zero still hasn't been shipped
[14:50] <foobarry> maybe they don't actually have any after all
[15:15] <SebthreeBQM10HD> ff
[15:52] <SebthreeBQM10HD> QUESTION: WHere would the two of you from Florida llive  if outside of the US and why?
[15:53] <SebthreeBQM10HD> whhops wtrong chan
[16:34] <niks> \join #lad
[21:16]  * diddledan__ sneaks in the back door
[21:16]  * zmoylan-pi is notified by pir unit and turns on night vision goggles...
[21:16] <diddledan__> http://news.rhapsody.com/2016/06/14/rhapsody-becoming-napster/
[21:17] <daftykins> :>
[21:17] <diddledan__> the twitters are saying it must be april fools' day
[21:17] <zmoylan-pi> russian april fools day
[21:19] <diddledan__> so apple did something yesterday and the internets melted, right?
[21:20] <zmoylan-pi> apple did something yesterday and the world went 'meh'
[21:20] <daftykins> which is normal for Apple :D
[21:20] <daftykins> the shark was jumped
[21:20] <zmoylan-pi> ms buying linkedin seems to have been the bigger story
[21:20] <diddledan__> siri on the mac. whodathunkit
[21:21] <diddledan__> aye the ms news made the national telly
[21:22] <zmoylan-pi> whereas siri on the mac desktop didn't? the shock!