[08:49] <sakrecoer> zequence: you asked me to change the cover to the new theme last week..
[08:49] <sakrecoer> sorry, i read the hilight window first...
[08:55] <sakrecoer> you are right i should have asked first... not sure what i was thinking, but certainly not that it is my personal page. its mote facebooks, personal porfiling log of ubuntustudio :D
[08:55] <sakrecoer> *more
[08:57] <sakrecoer> anyways... so what do you guys suggest as muggshot for our socialnetwork?
[08:57] <sakrecoer> zequence, autumna, geirdal, cfhowlett, cub, krytarik ^
[08:57] <sakrecoer> #everyone
[09:50] <geirdal> I like it like it is now!
[10:13] <zequence> No, it's below a standard that we've had, I think
[10:14] <zequence> The CoF needs to be big and clear
[10:14] <zequence> Something similar to what we had before
[10:15] <zequence> geirdal: Hello, btw. We haven't met yet, I believe
[10:16] <geirdal> no hi :)
[10:18] <sakrecoer> *chuckles* i find facebook to be bellow our standard. buuuuuuut it's just my personal opinion, :D
[10:18] <sakrecoer> i'll show you a muggshot in ten
[10:20] <zequence> Yeah, whatever. As said, facebook is just one place where we exist
[10:21] <zequence> I'll let you keep your standard then. See you in a year or so
[10:23] <zequence> sakrecoer: Sorry. That was uncalled for. But, really, I don't feel very motivated to do this work right now
[10:23] <zequence> So, I will probably not be around much for a while.
[10:23] <zequence> You know where to find me, and I'll be checking these channels now and then.
[10:32] <sakrecoer> zequence: no worries :) 
[10:33] <sakrecoer> anyways, i agree that the logo could be more visible on that mughsot.
[10:33] <sakrecoer> http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/ubuntustudio_ghostCOF_mugshot.png
[10:33] <sakrecoer> it's big, i doubt it will ever be that big on facebook
[13:06] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: Re firewire. I do not know what is up with DV. If the snd FW drivers interfere with that, then it is a bug. However, audio is ok. just use the firewire device through ALSA rather than using the jack FW backend.
[13:08] <OvenWerks> I do not have a FW device to play with. SO I can't comment farther than that. I think you have it right though. That to use DV you may have to unload the alsa FW drivers.
[13:10] <OvenWerks> right now I can not justify buying the required equipment just to test.
[13:23] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: allright... thing is that, when i use Alsa, i don't have access to all the I/O,,, in fact, i haven't been able to use my firewire card with the alsaFW at all until now..
[13:23] <sakrecoer> until now= yet
[13:24] <sakrecoer> anyways, i understand there isn't much you can do about it...
[13:24] <sakrecoer> now we know the fix however :)
[13:24] <sakrecoer> blacklist thing...
[13:24] <sakrecoer> in case someone asks... 
[13:25] <sakrecoer> so until i find a way to buy you a firewire card, OvenWerks, lets just hope (*teardrop*) firewire vanishes, or that the fix will satisfy the bugged out user :)
[13:29] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: two things strike my minds:
[13:29] <sakrecoer> 1) probably i am doing something wrong with asla's firewire thing, maybe we can book some time where i try stuff and send logs 
[13:30] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: I would require, FW PCIe card, audio box and probaly DV input device at least to test. More than I can justify from the family budget :)
[13:30] <sakrecoer> 2) if we don't get it to work, perhaps there could be an option in Ubunstu control that, once ticket, puts a blacklist file where it should be?
[13:31] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: That would be possible yes.
[13:31] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: of course i understand. i can't realy buy you the stuff either... i will see if i can find out who i need to sleep with at the CC tho :D
[13:31] <sakrecoer> or sell a liver.. biiiit... no... its worthless and broken anyways :D
[13:32] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: I think that basically the code for FW was stuffed into ALSA with not much testing.
[13:33] <OvenWerks> I do not even know if a MIDI port on a FW device shows in alsa.
[13:33] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: no fw midi port in alsa... well. as far as i've seen...
[13:33] <OvenWerks> But if ALSA FW stops DV input from working that should be reported as a bug I think.
[13:34] <sakrecoer> i haven't gone so far yet as to see a corelation with the DV part...
[13:34] <sakrecoer> let me try :)
[13:42] <sakrecoer> no...
[13:42] <sakrecoer> not even starting kdenlive with sudo does it...
[13:43] <sakrecoer> i haven't tried to remove video1394 or raw1394 from the blacklist tho...
[13:44] <sakrecoer> but blacklist thing is way out of my league...
[13:45] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: what is at stake if i put a "#" in front of dv1394, raw1394 and video 1394 in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-firewire.conf ?
[13:46] <sakrecoer> will my computer start dreaming about strangling me? :D
[13:50] <autumna> sakrecoer: re mugshot I think the general idea is sound, but I would suggest something that has a bit of a dark shadow behind the main ubuntu logo, so that it is more easily visible, when shown small (which happens). More cropped up to the main logo area is a good idea for same reason. Also if it allows gifs, animated spinning logo could be entertaining, but that's a personal thing. ;D
[14:09] <sakrecoer> autumna: you tell me what format is allowed on facebook :D i'll see what i can do for the rest
[14:18] <autumna> I am not sure off the top of my head *is not particularly a facebook expert* so not entirely sure if gif is allowed or not
[14:25] <autumna> sakrecoer: it looks like there is an option to add gif, or was at some point, but only for some profiles. so not feasible to have an animated image at this time. ;D
[14:27] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: no, commenting out those 1394 things didn't do it for the video.
[14:28] <sakrecoer> anwyays, i'm off for today. let's look into the alsaFW later this week if you have sometime.