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| flocculant | bluesabre unit<tab> - is there anything new that testing needs to worry about yet? | 16:36 |
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| flocculant | I vaguely know about the gtk3 stuff in ppa, but afaik that's not something people can really look at yet | 16:38 |
| flocculant | PaulW2U: replied and cc'd release team in to it | 17:35 |
| flocculant | PaulW2U: that's the way do to do it - ask on -release :) | 17:49 |
| flocculant | we read things - but *we* can't always fix things - like the xfce/intel/lock bug | 17:50 |
| flocculant | personally I wish that we were more blunt about not releasing | 17:50 |
| flocculant | given that bug perhaps we shouldn't have done so | 17:50 |
| flocculant | maybe that would make more noise - Xubuntu refuses to release LTS due to intel bug | 17:51 |
| PaulW2U | :) | 17:51 |
| PaulW2U | my xubuntu install is now on a non-Intel machine | 17:52 |
| flocculant | my installs are not intel | 17:52 |
| flocculant | hard one - and if QA had refused, I bet we would have released anyway | 17:52 |
| PaulW2U | A a tester I get quite frustrated when I see little feedback from the main Ubuntu flavour hence my initial email | 17:54 |
| PaulW2U | I know how Xubuntu and Lubuntu work but ubuntu mystifies me at times :) | 17:54 |
| flocculant | hard one :) | 17:55 |
| flocculant | I think that mostly that's done with autotesting - not real people working in the OS | 17:55 |
| flocculant | davmor2 might be able to shine a light on that - might have EOD'd too | 17:56 |
| PaulW2U | Yes, but Ubuntu 16.04 was still released with some awful bugs that fortunately were fix before the .1 release. | 17:57 |
| PaulW2U | I see that bug 1568604 now has a heat of 980 and affects 199 people :( | 18:00 |
| ubottu | bug 1568604 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Mouse cursor lost when unlocking with Intel graphics" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1568604 | 18:00 |
| PaulW2U | at least the duplicate reports have slowed down. bye for now. off to watch tv. | 18:03 |
| davmor2 | meh | 18:25 |
| davmor2 | intel drivers would be the kernel and nothing to do with the desktop at all, so the x team and kernel team would be the best places to start | 18:27 |
| flocculant | davmor2: always hard to tell where | 18:30 |
| flocculant | davmor2: then again where the hell are the x and kernel teams :p | 18:32 |
| davmor2 | flocculant: #ubuntu-kernel | 18:32 |
| davmor2 | flocculant: they are hidden really well ;) | 18:33 |
| flocculant | ha ha ha | 18:33 |
| flocculant | it is holiday week :p | 18:33 |
| flocculant | davmor2: all that said it *might* be a lock issue with not-gnome | 18:45 |
| flocculant | or kde | 18:46 |
| flocculant | whichever way you look it at it - not a nice bug | 18:46 |
| flocculant | might be that x team and https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94677 is the way to do it, but I know so little about the intricacies I get lost | 18:49 |
| ubottu | Freedesktop bug 94677 in Driver/intel "xorg-server 1.18.2: missing mouse pointer when coming back from screen lock" [Normal,New] | 18:49 |
| flocculant | off to watch Iceland make Ronaldo look silly now :) | 18:50 |
| pavlushka | lol | 18:57 |
| flocculant | just a really simple point here | 19:59 |
| flocculant | I lost all my bookmarks - in fact lost everything | 20:00 |
| flocculant | I can not find a simple link anywhere in Xubuntu land to add something to meeting agenda | 20:00 |
| flocculant | and if I can't find that - do we hide that deliberately? | 20:00 |
| pleia2 | can get to it via wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu | 20:01 |
| flocculant | should be simple to see pleia2 | 20:01 |
| pleia2 | which is pretty standard for most projects in Ubuntu, go to wiki page, find meeting info there | 20:01 |
| flocculant | pleia2: I did normal thing with NO history - looked for Xubuntu | 20:02 |
| pleia2 | where do you suggest we put it? | 20:02 |
| flocculant | found xubuntu.orgh | 20:02 |
| flocculant | .org | 20:02 |
| flocculant | no meeting there | 20:02 |
| pleia2 | xubuntu.org is our user facing website, we've put all the dev stuff on the wikis | 20:02 |
| flocculant | pleia2: meetings are community not dev | 20:03 |
| pleia2 | indeed, which makes it tricky | 20:03 |
| flocculant | not really :) | 20:04 |
| flocculant | should be on x.org :) | 20:04 |
| pleia2 | then can you suggest a place on x.org for it? | 20:04 |
| pleia2 | that's what I'm asking | 20:04 |
| flocculant | pleia2: thinking :) | 20:04 |
| pleia2 | see, tricky | 20:04 |
| pleia2 | I've searched the website some, maybe on the Contact page? but I'm not sure | 20:04 |
| flocculant | maybe Contact page? | 20:05 |
| flocculant | heh - similar thinking there :) | 20:05 |
| pleia2 | is that where you looked when you were trying to find it just now? | 20:05 |
| flocculant | yup | 20:05 |
| flocculant | first place I looked | 20:05 |
| pleia2 | ok, can you submit a bug so knome can look at it when he's home? | 20:05 |
| flocculant | pleia2: yea ofc - xubuntu-website? | 20:06 |
| pleia2 | yep | 20:06 |
| flocculant | k - cool :) | 20:06 |
| pleia2 | thanks | 20:07 |
| flocculant | pleia2: also ofc - atm - stupid position for a wiki - how could Bert add something ... | 20:07 |
| pleia2 | who is Bert? | 20:08 |
| flocculant | if that goes on for much longer - that's a real problem for *buntu | 20:08 |
| pleia2 | there's a team that you can ask popey to add people to, discussion is ongoing on the ubuntu-doc list | 20:08 |
| pleia2 | ~ubuntu-wiki-editors | 20:08 |
| pleia2 | can't request to join (flood of spam joins), but you can ask popey directly | 20:09 |
| flocculant | bert is just this guy who realise there's a major issue with a wiki, can't change it, then just wanders off bad mouthing *buntu | 20:09 |
| pleia2 | yeah, you want the ubuntu-doc list for this discussion | 20:09 |
| pleia2 | there's nothing I can do about it, but folks are talking about it there | 20:09 |
| flocculant | pleia2: I can edit - Bert can't, now thinks Ubuntu is what they say it is :( | 20:09 |
| pleia2 | I understand, but telling me doesn't help | 20:10 |
| pleia2 | it's a very clear and known problem that's being discussed on the doc list | 20:10 |
| flocculant | pleia2: right - not going there - been down that street before | 20:10 |
| pleia2 | x_x | 20:10 |
| flocculant | discussing is great - IS doidn't care about spam till it hurt them | 20:11 |
| pleia2 | anyway, back to work for me | 20:11 |
| flocculant | you can directly quote me to IS | 20:11 |
| pleia2 | *I* can't continue to be the one responsible for this | 20:11 |
| flocculant | pleia2: yea - sorry xxx | 20:11 |
| pleia2 | the group exists that you can ask popey to add people to, the doc team is sorting out joining criteria to make this easier | 20:12 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: nothing from me at this time | 23:29 |
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