[06:13] <acheronuk> clivejo: no, I've only taken a brief look at that KCI code
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[10:03] <mamarley> clivejo: I just tried the staged Plasma 5.6.5 packages on my Yakkety VM.  Looks good, I don't see any problems. :)
[10:06] <acheronuk> just installing here as well
[10:34] <clivejo> such brave souls!
[10:41] <acheronuk> lol. in a VM I just took a snapshot of to be on the safe side? hardly!
[10:42] <clivejo> could you check the recent documents if they open?
[10:43] <acheronuk> seems ok
[11:02] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:25] <acheronuk> :/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/QtTesting
[12:40] <soee_> so in Ubuntu all QT version are considered valid/working when they work on phones ?
[12:45] <acheronuk> well, it does say in https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xXhsnTwzvm5p6gDbUrDpRPSJV9tX4SHCptC9yUYCMmE/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=437316384
[12:46] <acheronuk> under "desktop testing" that "plasma desktop starts up" is in todo for testing
[13:21] <yofel> soee_: they are considered valid/working when they don't break stuff. 
[13:21] <yofel> Which is also why I didn't consider 5.6.0 as usuable either
[13:22] <soee_> yofel: what did they break for us ?
[13:23] <yofel> I don't know specifically, but even upstream kde admitted that 5.6.0 had known issues - that's why plasma 5.7 explicitly requires >= 5.6.1
[13:23] <yofel> ok, another try for qtbase without docs
[13:23] <soee_> :)
[13:25] <acheronuk> yofel: how are you doing that? from debian git packaging?
[13:26] <yofel> no, I just used what's in debian testing
[13:26] <yofel> i.e. pull-debian-source qtbase-opensource-src
[13:27] <acheronuk> oh. I tried this earlier, but I'm sure my downgrading of the build-deps would make it unusable https://launchpad.net/~acheron/+archive/ubuntu/qt5test/+build/10022156
[13:29] <yofel> looks fine as a boostrap though
[13:29] <yofel> should just need another rebuild once the tools are there
[13:29] <acheronuk> yofel: I figured it would need a rebuild
[13:30] <yofel> feel free to continue with the rest of qt5 if you want to
[13:31] <yofel> then clive can at least work on plasma if he wants to
[13:31] <acheronuk> honestly I just tried that and was amazed it worked!
[13:34] <acheronuk> I'll have a look at the rest of qt5 later. don't know if my skills are quite up to that yet...
[14:01] <shadeslayer> yofel: perhaps someone should bump the version in kde-l10n-common?
[14:01] <shadeslayer> it's at 15.12.3 at the moment
[14:01] <yofel> yes? that's what we have in the archive?
[14:02] <shadeslayer> oh
[14:02] <shadeslayer> ok :P
[14:02] <shadeslayer> did not realizie 
[14:02] <yofel> dunno if clive tried building anything newer yet
[14:10] <acheronuk> on a fresh YY install from daily iso with no ppas, plasma-desktop-date 5.6.4 has breaks: kde-l10n-** (<=4:15.12.3-0ubuntu3~) 
[14:10] <acheronuk> while those language packs are at 4:15.12.3-0ubuntu2, meaning installing one uninstalls plasma-desktop and plasma-desktop-data 
[14:10] <acheronuk> or updating plasma-desktop from the iso version of 5.5.5 to 5.6.4 uninstalls the language pack you set on installation
[14:12] <acheronuk> so is that why plasma-desktop 5.6.4 on YY is stick in proposed? and doesn't get on the daily isos?
[14:29] <yofel> oh, might be
[15:18] <clivejo> I keep meaning to do a kde-l10n update
[15:19] <clivejo> but just dont have the internet connection for it!
[15:20] <clivejo> and I think I can hear thunder again, so Im gonna shut down
[15:41] <soee_> Trojita 0.7 with GPG encryption is available
[16:41] <acheronuk> yofel: no option but to do QT5.6 according to this I think https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/qt/qtbase.git/tree/debian/README.source
[17:25] <yofel> bummer, I hoped it would be able to use the old doc management from 5.5
[17:26] <yofel> acheronuk: to disable docs building, look for the *build-arch-indep rules and comment out the contents. That should prevent the docs from getting built
[17:27] <acheronuk> presumably would then have to adjust the control and install files to suit?
[17:31] <yofel> the install file probably. The control file I would leave alone. The binary will just be empty
[17:58] <mamarley> clivejo: How has running Yakkety been recently?  I am considering upgrading so that I may help more with the testing.
[17:59] <clivejo> fine bar the Nvidia driver issues
[18:00] <clivejo> but Im holding those packages and havent had any problems since
[18:00] <clivejo> the archive is a bit broken at the moment
[18:00] <clivejo> but 5.6.5 seems stable enough for me
[18:01] <clivejo> Ive apps 16.04.1 installed here too
[18:04] <mamarley> clivejo: Any idea when 5.23 and 5.6.5 might be staged for Xenial?
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[18:40] <acheronuk> yofel: tried with one of the quicker building QT packages, and have that working. I'll see what I can do over the next few days
[18:40] <yofel> thanks!
[18:42] <acheronuk> it's a useful learning experienced if nothing else
[21:19] <mamarley> clivejo: What still needs testing in Yakkety for 5.6.5?  I can test it with my VM.
[21:20] <clivejo> discover needs attention
[21:20] <clivejo> I added a misisng build dependancy
[21:20] <clivejo> then reverted it
[21:20] <clivejo> then confused myself
[21:24] <mamarley> OK, I am testing Discover now.
[21:26] <clivejo> its probably not installed the 5.6.5 version
[21:29] <mamarley> clivejo: It is reporting 5.6.5, but the Install buttons all seem to be grayed out and if I select "Update" it seems to get stuck on the "Loading" screen and spin CPU.
[21:29] <mamarley> I doubt those are packaging problems though.
[21:29] <clivejo> https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/discover/log/?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive
[21:29] <clivejo> it was looking for libpackagekitqt5-dev
[21:30] <clivejo> so I gave it libpackagekitqt5-dev
[21:30] <clivejo> but it was still FTBFS