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glassanyone else experiencing intermittent USB power cycles?00:00
ouroumovglass: please tell me more00:01
glasswell for about three days now - when ever my screensaver comes on i have to unplug my mouse and plug it back in to get it to work00:01
glassmy num lock key and usualy the first key i press after that go out on keyboard randomly00:02
glassi thought it was the welcome screen but i turned that off and it still does it00:02
ouroumovWhat version of Ubuntu MATE are you using?00:03
glass16.0400:03
ouroumovUp to date?00:03
glassyes00:03
ouroumovI've noticed an issue with some USB3 ports on my machines but I'm not sure if it's the same thing00:03
glasswhat is it doing for you?00:03
ouroumovI don't have problems with mouse / keyboard, just external drives00:04
glasssee i have tried every USB port on this box and its the same00:04
ouroumovExternal USB3 drives get unmounted / remounted when I do I/O :/00:04
ouroumovglass, even your USB2 ports?00:04
glassmy flash drives dont do that but i dont have a external HDD00:05
glassyes00:05
ouroumovDo you know what login screen you see when you get back from screensaver? Is it the screensaver lock screen or the lightdm login screen?00:06
ouroumovAlso, do you know whether: 1. Your mouse doesn't work    -    2. It works but you can't see the cursor00:07
fifty-sevenCI think someone said it started with a libc yodate00:08
fifty-sevenCupdate00:08
glassi have tested it with lightDM (?) and the screensaver lockscreen disabled00:08
ouroumovglass, I'm asking 'cause if it's just your mouse cursor that disappears, it might be related to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/156860400:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1568604 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Mouse cursor lost when unlocking with Intel graphics" [High,Confirmed]00:08
glassno it does not disappear i can turn it over and there is no power to it00:08
ouroumovhm00:09
glassbut for the above line of text and this line i have had to hit the keys a few times for the board to work00:09
glassi have even switched board and mouse00:09
ouroumovThat's just weird00:10
glassi mean to be honest i can live with it but mate was what i suggested to everyone and if my wife jumped on here to check facebook or anything she would start telling me to put windows back =(00:10
ouroumov:\00:10
ouroumovglass, I'm no expert so I recommend you ask about it on the Ubuntu MATE forums. You can also try asking on the channel #Ubuntu because I highly doubt such an issue would be flavor-specific. Sounds like a kernel / driver problem00:12
glassi had thought about upgrading to daily build and checking it00:12
ouroumovglass, I don't see why that would help, unless I misunderstand what a daily build is00:13
glassmaybe my terms are wrong00:13
glassthe 16.1000:13
ouroumovWhat I would recommend is you hold shift down when you boot, and select an older kernel from the GRUB menu00:13
glassright on i will try that as soon as my download is done thanks00:14
ouroumovIf it fixes it, there's a way to lock down your kernel version in Synaptic00:14
glassalright00:15
ouroumovAlso if it fixes it, you should consider filing a bug report on Launchpad00:15
ouroumovAnd if you do that, describe your hardware with output of "lshw" because I think it's hardware specific too00:16
glassi am at a lost where to get any backup information for it like what would i do besides just say this is happening and i have no proof00:16
ouroumovglass, if USB gets powercycled it will definitively show up in the log file: /var/log/kern.log00:17
glassright on let me throw that up on my conky and i will watch it00:17
ouroumovYou can monitor that log file in real time using the command: "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" in a terminal00:17
glassyou be here for a few mins?00:18
glassi'll run that in terminal and then let me screensaver kick on and then come back and show you the output00:19
ouroumovglass, OK00:19
ouroumovI'm gonna have a smoke00:19
glasssame00:19
glassouroumov: you back boss?00:59
fifty-sevenCboss00:59
fifty-sevenCboss, are you there boss00:59
glasslol00:59
ouroumovI'm not the boss of anyone01:00
ouroumov~~01:00
ouroumovBut yeah01:00
ouroumovDid you get interesting things from your logs?01:00
stephenIs anyone online? I need a little help01:01
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Guest26801Is anyone online? I need a little help?01:01
ouroumovyeah stephen / Guest26801 -- what's up?01:01
glasshttp://pastebin.com/smHiuQhH01:02
Guest26801My wife just got a powersaver pro 3ds from on of her friends and i need some help finding something compatible with linux that will allow her to use the powersave01:02
glassa nintendo? or should i google this?01:03
ouroumovglass, there's nothing about USB in there, did it not happen this time?01:03
Guest26801It doesn't work saying on the box compatible with all versions of windows01:04
glassyes it happend01:04
glasshappened01:04
Guest26801not too sure what to do. I don't want her best friend to think she wasted her money01:05
ouroumovglass, and is that the whole log since you've started tailing it?01:05
glassyes01:05
ouroumovglass, the only weird thing in this log is the main-menu segmentation fault01:05
Guest26801Do i need to update wine or my system or install something?01:06
glassi noticed that also and then noticed the menu button that is in the bottom left of open suse desktop is gone01:06
ouroumovI'm not sure what to make of this01:10
ouroumovTry the older kernel, and if it doesn't help ask on the forums, I'd say :/01:10
glassk thanks01:10
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glasswell now i think the keyboard bug has gone to far04:25
glassi opened software boutique to install clipper04:26
glassand its putting 2 -4 char for each letter i type04:26
mate|99289привет04:27
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festerBany news on the screen tearing issue lately? seems I can't shake it off my system no matter what...13:56
festerBany news on the screen tearing issue lately? seems I can't shake it off my system no matter what...14:43
Akulihave you tried the available drivers?15:06
festerBAkuli: yeah, don't want to know how much time I've wasted on this issue alone </facepalm> ;)15:12
Akulithat happens a lot when you're getting started :)15:13
festerBlike UM a lot, but the standby and tearing issues are making me look at linux lite 3 at the mo ;)15:13
Akuliits the same ubuntu behind the covers15:13
Akuliyou could try ubuntu (mate) 14.04 from the live dvd without installing, i think support for some hardware was dropped in 16.0415:14
festerBAkuli: not a noob, but this is the first time I've lasted 6 months on solo linux, ie. no dual boot crap15:14
festerBoh, running on thinkpad t440p, nvidia+intel, is that combo not supported on 16.04?15:15
nik_I have a message: ata 3.0 status DRDY ERR15:16
AkulifesterB, thinkpads usually run non-windwos pretty well, but your problem is probably nvidia. so check the drivers, if you've already done that try 14.0415:17
festerBAkuli: thx, will do15:18
AkuliI'm still on 14.0415:18
Akuliand i'll stay on 14.04 until 2019, which is when its support ends :)15:18
Akuliunless i'll find another distro of course15:18
nik_I think may be hardware probl/15:19
festerBAkuli: yeah, I'd stay there if your standby and video is ok as is ;)15:19
Akuliuse standby, not hibernate15:20
nik_OK I will return to 14.04 !!!15:20
Akulihibernate ,or suspend-to-disk, doesn't usually work that well15:20
nik_OK Friends ! Tks.15:20
nik_bye for now...15:21
lasbrHi guys how are you? I am new to Linux and recently chose the MATE to start my studies .... however, I'm having trouble installing Guitar Pro .... some good soul could help me? : D15:59
ouroumov_hi lasbr16:00
ouroumov_Do you study guitar? x)16:00
lasbrYes16:00
ouroumov_cool16:00
ouroumov_what instructions have you been following up till now to try and install Guitar Pro? (Please provide a link) - What specific error message or failure are you stumbling upon?16:01
ouroumov_brb16:01
lasbrI think it's something wrong with the architecture, my system is x64 and the software is 3216:03
Akuliis it for windows?16:03
Akuliyou can just sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 if thats the problem16:03
lasbrNo, it's for Linux16:05
sixwheeledbeastlasbr: You can use tuxguitar for GP tabs16:08
lasbrAkuli I tested this command but nothing happens.16:08
sixwheeledbeastI didn't know there was a GP version for linux16:08
Akulihow is it meant to be installed?16:09
Akuliany instructions coming with it?16:09
sixwheeledbeastReading up it looks like it depends on a few 32-bit libs16:17
ubuntu-matehello18:09
randallhiyaz18:45
alkisgHello18:47
LangleyHelp, how do I get 32 bit drivers for my AMD card?20:11
glasswould it be under the system update > additional drivers?20:12
LangleyActually it seems like I already have them... But I'm getting errors about libGL with Portal 220:14
LangleyIf anybody knows what I can do about these errors that would be great http://paste.ubuntu.com/17377954/20:14
glassno idea man dont game20:14
ximenahola a todos consulta como puedo obtener la mejor resolucion de la pantalla20:17
LangleyI did it, yay20:19
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ubuntu-mateI have a question about Mate20:31
ubuntu-mateI am not sure if I want to install Mate, can I install the Mate desktop and the Unity desktop on the same machine?20:32
randallyes, yes can20:34
ubuntu-matewould it be better to install regular ubuntu and then add the mate desktop or install the mate version and install the unity desktop?20:34
ali1234you probably wouldn't notice the difference20:36
ali1234you'll end up with almost identical systems... maybe a couple of small differences20:36
ubuntu-mateok thank you.  I like mate but cant decide to commit to it.20:36
glassubuntu-mate i distro hopped on all the ubuntu flavors20:38
ubuntu-matewill they play nice on the same machine?20:38
glassmate provides the most stable for my system20:38
glasswell see something i learnt is20:38
glassi should have stuck with ubuntu - and then just added and removed the DE's20:39
glasscould have saved alot of time20:39
glassyou can put them on a flash drive and test them that way if you are unsure20:39
ubuntu-mateI'm thinking of a longer term testing.  I've never gotten a persistance to work properly20:40
ubuntu-mateI might have the wrong type of flash drives for persistance20:41
ubuntu-mateIf both can live together I can switch back and forth if I like20:42
ubuntu-mateIs there any difference between a DE installed after or installing right from a Mate install disk?20:43
rahtgazubuntu-mate: when I installed mate on an ubuntu-unity I had some problems. It seems the powers thaat be want the official ubuntu to stay Unity20:43
ali1234different desktops don't always work properly when they are installed at the same time, but if you report it it should get fixed20:44
rahtgazI don't know about ubuntu-mate + unity, though. But if You use Ubuntu Server, you will be fine installing any DEs you wish20:44
ubuntu-mateInteresting option.  Any down side to installing the server vs desktop version?20:45
rahtgaznone20:45
rahtgazwell...20:45
rahtgazyou will need to install from synaptic a few more packages like codecs and such, since the server version is not focused on desktop computer usage20:46
rahtgazbut the repos have all that is required20:47
ubuntu-mateok, great.  Thanks all for the assistance.20:47
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