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magespawngood morning04:57
anton_maymorning05:19
Kilosmorning all06:00
Kiloseish internet weak today06:25
magespawnhi Kilos, everything is cold, give it time to warm up06:26
Kiloshaha06:26
Kiloshi magespawn but this is too sick06:27
Kiloshttp://www.speedtest.net/my-result/540489113606:27
Kilosnot even gprs speed06:27
Kilosmore like snail mail06:27
anton_mayHet jy diesel ingegooi?06:33
Kiloslol06:33
magespawntowers are frozen06:43
magespawngood ol text is still working though06:45
Kilosyeah06:46
superflyZzzzz06:52
Kilosmorning superfly 06:52
superflyAlready? I want to sleep... 06:53
Kilosai!06:53
superflyI'm just going to... Zzzzzzzzz06:53
Kilossleep superfly 06:54
theblazehen_Morning all07:14
Kiloshi theblazehen_ 07:14
theblazehen_Kilos: Can you say my name again in 5 seconds? Testing something07:16
Kilosok07:16
Kilostheblazehen_ 07:16
theblazehen_Yay, works :D07:16
Kilosalerts?07:16
theblazehen_Got all chats in one program07:16
theblazehen_yes07:16
Kiloscool07:17
theblazehen_Whatsapp, skype, facebook and work chat07:17
Kilosai!07:17
theblazehen_Kilos: http://linx.home.theblazehen.com/e30lk4cf.png client thing :)07:26
Kiloscool07:32
magespawntheblazehen_: quassel wewb ap?08:13
magespawnweb08:13
theblazehen_magespawn: https://github.com/magne4000/quassel-webserver08:14
magespawnty08:14
theblazehen_You can test it with quasselcore.home.theblazehen.com if your core is internet accessible08:14
theblazehen_All done in js, so I wont get your login details08:14
theblazehen_As I understand it08:14
magespawnlooks pretty cool, i will have to look into when i have some time08:48
theblazehen_IRC is much faster hosted at home rather than at EU dedicated server..09:28
theblazehen_4 second log in vs 20 seconds on phone over 3g09:29
magespawnwhy? not the 3g if that is constant.09:30
theblazehen_SSD in home server and less than 30 ms latency, vs 100 ms latency and normall spinning disks09:31
theblazehen_hi andrewlsd09:31
andrewlsdhi theblazehen_ 09:32
andrewlsdhello Na3iL :-)09:36
Na3iLHiya andrewlsd how are you there09:37
magespawnhi andrewlsd 09:38
andrewlsdHi magespawn gremble 09:38
magespawntheblazehen_: you think that makes that much differance?09:38
andrewlsdNa3iL, good thanks.09:38
Na3iLcool :D09:39
* andrewlsd heads over to see what he missed via: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/06/15/%23ubuntu-za.html09:39
theblazehen_magespawn: The latency, not sure how the protocol works. I think it requests 200 lines from each channel. If it's sequential, then maybe09:39
theblazehen_But probably the ssd mostly09:39
theblazehen_the sqlite db for me is around 270 MB09:39
andrewlsdquasselcore web think looks nice theblazehen_ 09:40
theblazehen_andrewlsd: Yeah. Just need to get my web wrapper to do a notification count09:41
theblazehen_I tried adding a custom service, but thing wouldn't load09:41
theblazehen_Tried adding quassel web as rocket chat service, complained about being invalid09:42
theblazehen_So I added an actual rocket chat, changed url in config file, worked09:42
andrewlsdhuh theblazehen_ ?09:43
andrewlsdhuh theblazehen_ ? an actual rocket chat?09:43
grembleHey andrewlsd 09:44
andrewlsd\o gremble 09:44
theblazehen_andrewlsd: Added rocket chat so it would see that it's a valid service (it checks to see if it as a rocket chat instance on adding the service), but changing the url in the config that it saves let me use quassel09:45
theblazehen_hey gremble09:45
magespawnwhat other services can you use theblazehen_?09:49
grembleHow is everyone doing today?09:50
theblazehen_magespawn: http://linx.home.theblazehen.com/2016-06-15-1149481920x1019scrot.png09:50
theblazehen_Good and you gremble?09:50
anton_may_za'Tis the long weekend babay!!!09:50
grembleNot for me :P I have a tournament tomorrow and writing on friday09:50
anton_may_zaahhh.......sorry for yous09:51
anton_may_zaBeen waiting for this weekend for a while now09:51
theblazehen_Friday isn't a public holiday though I think?09:52
andrewlsdtheblazehen_, correct09:52
andrewlsd.... but many have taken leave.09:52
anton_may_zaYip it's not, but took the day off09:52
theblazehen_Ah09:52
theblazehen_Wow, my pfsense box is using 700 MB ram09:56
theblazehen_Although it is running squid, squidguard, clamav, snort, openvpn, and the normal ddns/dns/dhcp stuff09:57
magespawntheblazehen_: that second screen shot is that the quasselwebserver from the github that yo posted earlier?09:57
theblazehen_The one before the last one?09:58
anton_may_zaclamav not updating?09:58
magespawnthe lastone09:58
theblazehen_magespawn: Last one is the meetfranz.com main page09:58
theblazehen_anton_may_za: It's updating fine here I think?09:58
theblazehen_magespawn: http://linx.home.theblazehen.com/2016-06-15-1158061920x1019scrot.png is the IRC09:59
anton_may_zai see you also running snort, that can usually be intensive as well09:59
anton_may_zai prefer to run snort on it's own baremetal09:59
theblazehen_Yeah. Ah well, I have 2 GB total on that box09:59
theblazehen_Yeah, it is bare metal09:59
theblazehen_Pentium E2220 or something, dual core 2.2 GHz10:00
anton_may_zawell with 2Gb it should still be fine @ running 700Mb10:00
magespawnokay so then what is this http://linx.home.theblazehen.com/2016-06-15-1149481920x1019scrot.png10:00
theblazehen_>Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2220 @ 2.40GHz 10:00
anton_may_zayea just keep an eye on it, but should be ok10:00
theblazehen_magespawn: meetfranz.com, a "native" application which runs various web wrappers for chat services10:00
magespawncool thanks10:01
theblazehen_I managed to add the quassel web to it10:01
magespawni see, and you can run this on your own server? i see there is a download for it10:01
theblazehen_No, this isn't run on a web server. You can run the quassel core on a web server, but you download the binary for franz10:02
theblazehen_franz is basically a web browser but with named tabs10:02
magespawnah right, so a one stop for yur messaging10:02
theblazehen_Yeah10:02
magespawns/yur/your10:02
magespawncool10:02
theblazehen_Hmm. memory usage climbing. 1222 MB used10:04
theblazehen_Probably fine though10:04
anton_may_zawhat is ps is running?10:05
theblazehen_http://linx.home.theblazehen.com/2016-06-15-1207351147x480scrot.png  that doesn't look right10:07
magespawnlook like something woke up10:08
anton_may_zayip, what is your connections like?10:09
magespawntheblazehen_: you have a file sharing service running there?10:10
inetprogood mornings10:10
magespawnhi inetpro 10:10
theblazehen_Connections: http://linx.home.theblazehen.com/2016-06-15-1210191141x474scrot.png           10:10
theblazehen_magespawn: yeah10:10
theblazehen_hi inetpro10:10
theblazehen_magespawn: https://github.com/andreimarcu/linx-server10:10
magespawni opened the file sharing address10:11
magespawnhttp://linx.home.theblazehen.com/10:11
theblazehen_anton_may_za: ps aux | wc -l gives 9310:11
anton_may_zaNot a lot of connections, is the memory still rising?10:11
theblazehen_anton_may_za: Seems stable at 64% used10:12
inetproMaaz: seen MaNI10:12
Maazinetpro: MaNI was last seen 1 day, 1 hour and 5 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-06-14 02:12:23 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2016-06-15 02:27:22 PDT10:12
anton_may_zaSnort?10:12
theblazehen_anton_may_za: What about it? It didn't pick up on anything recently 10:13
anton_may_za64% is a tad high for pfsense?10:13
theblazehen_Yeah, well, not a problem though10:13
theblazehen_Still have 721 MB spare10:14
inetproapparently it is true, the comma has been a South African decimal separator like for ever10:14
anton_may_zayip 10:14
* inetpro still hunting for a real document to use as a reference but some clever people here have confirmed it for me10:15
anton_may_zayip it has been10:15
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inetproapparently the banks are the ones to blame for using software based on US systems with a dot as the separator10:17
magespawninetpro: that is a bit odd, i think pastel uses a ,10:18
inetproa dot makes so much more sense in my view10:18
* theblazehen_ finds it a little scary that their sftware cares about the type of decimal operator used10:18
theblazehen_Agreed on the dot10:18
magespawncommas are for thousands seperator10:19
magespawnas in 1,000,000.0010:19
inetpromagespawn: obviously software has matured in many ways today10:20
inetproback then you could not simply change your regional settings and have a different look and feel across all software10:21
theblazehen_https://i.imgur.com/0P7TGgm.jpg heh10:38
magespawnpastel uses . just for interest, and you have to change that in windows to get it to work10:43
magespawntheblazehen_: that is the same thing, isnt it?10:49
theblazehen_magespawn: What is the same thing?10:49
magespawnthe relationships picture11:00
pavlushkaAhoy! all11:26
theblazehen_magespawn: Ah, yeah lol. Hey pavlushka, wb andrewlsd11:27
andrewlsdahoy all.11:27
pavlushkahello andrewlsd !11:28
* theblazehen_ might have a proper full os install in salt soon :)11:30
andrewlsdahoy all.11:35
pavlushkaahoy andrewlsd !11:36
andrewlsdtheblazehen_, magespawn, what about NoSQL engineers?11:38
andrewlsdI knew a NoSQL engineer, his name was Json11:39
theblazehen_andrewlsd: They don't know what either type of relationship is :p11:39
andrewlsd^ well-played theblazehen_ 11:39
andrewlsdI knew a NoSQL engineer, his name was Json, he was always alone, because he wasn't very good with relationships.11:40
theblazehen_andrewlsd: What do you think of postgresql's jsonb features, compared to say mongodb?12:02
andrewlsdI cannot claim expertise in that area.12:02
andrewlsdI have seen several reviews. Some say better, most say "depending on use-case"12:03
inetprosuperfly: Stop. Using. Periods. Period. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/13/stop-using-periods-period-2/?tid=pm_business_pop_b12:20
tumbleweeduse fullstops, dammit12:37
Kiloslol12:43
Kiloshi tumbleweed 12:43
inetprolol13:01
andrewlsdtheblazehen_, you tried running docker inside LXD, didn't you?13:41
theblazehen_andrewlsd: Yes13:41
andrewlsdany joy.13:42
andrewlsdI'm getting issues with mysql not starting in mattermost-preview docker image.13:43
theblazehen_Last time I had issues with builing, but a simple container worked13:43
theblazehen_Just running it or building?13:43
andrewlsdrunning it.  The docker container runs "runs" but mysqld dies as it starts with errors like this " Can't create/write to file '/tmp/ib3UWYwb' "13:44
andrewlsdI did a docker exec, and got exactly the same behaviour13:44
andrewlsdalthough I could manually create files in tmp.13:44
andrewlsdI even tried running the docker with privileged.13:44
andrewlsdI'm wondering if it is due to layers of UID mapping failing.13:45
theblazehen_And you used lxd with the docker profile as well right?13:45
andrewlsdmysql was id 999, which might not be permitted within LXD.13:45
andrewlsdyip. I created a container named "docker".... 13:46
andrewlsdlxc launch 1604-20160615 docker -p default -p docker13:46
andrewlsdand then installed docker.io inside the container.13:47
theblazehen_hmm13:47
andrewlsdvia `apt-get install docker.io` .... Not via docker's installation script.13:47
theblazehen_Can you run the hello world example?13:47
andrewlsdthe docker app inside the LXC container was running, but only mysqld would not run13:48
theblazehen_Hmm. if you exec into the docker container, can you su to lower uids?13:49
andrewlsdwill check. I just erased the LXC container.13:49
andrewlsdbtw theblazehen_ , I finally bit the bullet and am running Franz.13:51
theblazehen_andrewlsd: Cool. How is it?13:51
andrewlsdnice. whatsap, skype, hangout and rocket launched13:52
andrewlsdwhat did you do to get QuasselWeb added/13:53
theblazehen_Added an extra chat.lsd.co.za rocket chat entry, then vim ~/.config/franz/settings/settings.json, and edit the url to quassel web13:54
theblazehen_Also added       "custom_icon": "http://quasselcore.home.theblazehen.com/favicon.ico",13:54
andrewlsdnext step... letsencrypt?13:59
theblazehen_For quasselcore?13:59
magespawnthat is a lot for today, thanks theblazehen_ 13:59
andrewlsdyeah.13:59
andrewlsd.... but I reckon we should host a container ....14:00
andrewlsdand do it that way14:00
andrewlsdto leave it up14:00
theblazehen_andrewlsd: Yeah. Just need a nice way to automate it. Thinking would be nice to add it to my reverse proxy, set it to auto-request if it gets a request for a host it doesn't have a cert for14:00
andrewlsd^ auto-request, very cool14:01
theblazehen_Hmm. Although they give a wildcard for subdomains right andrewlsd?14:14
theblazehen_Then I just get cert for home.theblazehen.com14:14
andrewlsdI don't think "letsencrypt" offers wildcards14:14
andrewlsddocker hello-world works fine14:15
andrewlsdnow, to try mattermost docker again?14:16
theblazehen_Actually, all requests hit the reverse proxy, and I just add the .well_known as a location and don't pass it through the proxy, then just a script that reads from `lxc list` to get all hosts14:17
theblazehen_Yeah, give it a go14:17
theblazehen_Maybe try a plain mysql docker too14:17
andrewlsdk. also, this time trying to do the "docker" stuff as user ubuntu14:18
theblazehen_andrewlsd: How are you getting in? lxc exec containerName bash?14:19
andrewlsdI installed ssh (dropbear) in the container. It seemed to make no difference however.  Currently ssh'd in14:20
inetproSpaceX’s Falcon 9 launching in a few minutes http://spacex.com/webcast14:20
inetprofor those with lots of bandwidth14:20
andrewlsdty, inetpro 14:22
andrewlsdfyi: youtube link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLNmtUEvI5A14:23
andrewlsd5 mins to go14:24
theblazehen_Nice. How I install my os now: `sh <(curl scripts/installArch.sh)`, enter disk to use, enter hostname, wait14:25
andrewlsd:-)14:25
andrewlsdsh <$(curl scripts/installArch.sh)14:26
inetpro1 minute14:28
inetproawesomeness14:32
inetprorunning at above 10,000 km/h now14:33
andrewlsdyeah. amazing14:35
inetproamazing is that it's still speeding up14:35
inetpronow above 15,000 km/h14:36
inetpromore than 170 km altitude14:36
inetprofirst stage on it's way back to the drone14:36
andrewlsd17k k/h14:36
andrewlsdstill getting faster.14:36
inetprolanded?14:38
andrewlsdstage 114:38
inetprono wifi in the middle of the ocean :-)14:39
andrewlsdlol14:40
magespawnwhy not?14:49
inetpromore than 35,000km/h now14:56
inetpro+460 km altitude14:56
inetproslowing down now... missed the top speed14:58
inetprodamn! I understand that landing was not good 15:05
magespawnokay so is that that then?15:06
inetpro@elonmusk Ascent phase & satellites look good, but booster rocket had a RUD on droneship15:06
andrewlsd_qtheblazehen_:  yay, connected15:06
andrewlsd_qRUD?15:06
inetprothat's it!15:06
inetproRapid Unscheduled Disassembly15:07
inetproanother learning experience for the team15:07
andrewlsd_qlol15:07
andrewlsd_qit broke.15:08
magespawnthese things happen, at lest the payload is okay15:08
andrewlsd_qI was trying to figure out where this weird "click" notification sound was coming from.... turns out I had a loose piece of paper on my desk. And as I moved across the touchpad of my laptop I kept getting the corner of the paper caught on my sleeve, resulting in a gentle click each time I moved my arm15:09
magespawnnice one15:10
andrewlsd"analogue user input feedback"15:11
andrewlsd_qtheblazehen_:  docker mattermost-preview still didn't work15:33
andrewlsd_qnext test will be a small mysqld15:33
magespawnlater all15:34
andrewlsd_qciao all.15:48
* andrewlsd_q is disconnecting15:48
inetprohmm... docker mattermost-preview?16:09
theblazehen_inetpro: mattermost is a self hosted chat thing 16:11
inetprotheblazehen_: I know, but what's the problem andrew is having?16:12
inetproisn't mattermost part of gitlab?16:12
theblazehen_inetpro: issues with running the docker container inside a lxd container 16:12
theblazehen_They've added it yes, but it was independent before 16:12
inetproah16:13
inetproI haven't got mine running by the way... time issues16:13
theblazehen_Hmm16:14
theblazehen_Maaz tell andrewlsd have you considered running a docker host inside a KVM vm with memory ballooning? I might go that direction 16:14
Maaztheblazehen_: Okay, I'll tell andrewlsd on freenode16:14
inetprotheblazehen_: sounds like a nice idea, how do you do that?16:15
theblazehen_inetpro: I know in virt-manager you can adjust that, then just need the virtio drivers in the guest. 16:16
theblazehen_https://rwmj.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/virtio-balloon/16:16
inetprooh nice, I didn't know this, thanks16:17
pavlushkaahoy all17:27
pavlushkatheblazehen_: are you cool?17:29
captinehi all.  quick one.  anyone setup a "terminal server" using Linux (MATE) for windows machines to connect to?17:33
captinebest suggestion for software?  xrdp?17:33
captinewill end up doing active directory integration17:33
Kiloshi captine you might need to be patient till 8.3017:49
Kilossupper and family time till then17:50
Kilosoh paddatrapper when coffee is ordered she must crack her knuckles not his17:51
paddatrapperpavlushka: ibid using incorrect gender terms?17:52
paddatrapperKilos: ^17:52
Kilosyes QA is a she17:53
Kilosmaaz is he17:53
paddatrapperSo it should actually be set when setting it up17:53
Kilosoh17:54
Kilosok17:54
pavlushkapaddatrapper: didn't get that.17:55
paddatrapperpavlushka: Sorry, wrong tab completion17:55
pavlushkapaddatrapper: np17:55
paddatrapperKilos: I'll work on it17:56
Kilosgood man17:57
KilosMaaz coffee on17:57
* Maaz puts the kettle on17:57
KilosMaaz coffee for all17:57
MaazCome on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already. Just type in Maaz coffee please17:57
pavlushkaMaaz: coffee please17:58
Maazpavlushka: Done17:58
paddatrapperMaaz: coffee please18:00
Maazpaddatrapper: Yessir18:00
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos, pavlushka and paddatrapper!18:01
theblazehen_hey pavlushka. Yeah18:01
theblazehen_captine: Look at x2go18:01
paddatrapperMaaz: thanks18:01
Maazpaddatrapper: Okay :-)18:01
KilosMaaz gracias amigo18:01
Maaz¡de nada compadre18:01
pavlushkatheblazehen_: lol18:01
pavlushkaMaaz: thanks18:02
Maazpavlushka: No problem18:02
pavlushkaKilos: wow, gracious18:03
Kiloslol18:03
Kilosbuenos dias muchacho18:03
Kilosi learned that from clint eastwood movies18:04
pavlushkaKilos: buenos días señor18:05
pavlushkalol18:05
Kiloshehe18:05
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:24
squish102i always struggle with mdadm raid arrays18:59
squish102after a big update they change thier names18:59
squish102like /dev/md127 to /dev/md018:59
squish102i always get it back, but what a pain19:00
theblazehen_squish102: That's why you use UUIDs / PARTUUID / PARTLABEL / LABELs19:00
theblazehen_`blkid`19:00
squish102i think i do19:01
squish102last error was duplicate UUID's in mdadm.conf which I have no idea how it got there... maybe something i did19:02
theblazehen_squish102: Use UUIDs in fstab or whereever19:03
squish102ahh, don't think I use UUID's in fstab19:04
captinethanks theblazehen_ .  will look into it19:28
theblazehen_captine: I've used it over a 2mbit wifi link as my main desktop for a while. Worked well, although the netbook I used as a client struggled a bit with the cpu needs of pulseaudio...19:31
captinetheblazehen_, only problem with x2go is i need to install the client.  Work has my windows machine fully locked down20:50
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