[06:42] <sakrecoer> how about this one then? http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/image4263.png
[06:43] <sakrecoer> meanwhile i'll revert to the old one 
[06:44] <sakrecoer> i don't think it works as good, but maybe i'm wrong? http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/imageblack.png
[06:53] <sakrecoer> hmm... the new one got 101 "likes" and 2 shares.
[07:58] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: so i've tried all possible settins with the alsa FireWire, but no way to start jack using the firewire card.
[07:59] <sakrecoer> i noticed "coreaudio" is in the list of Driver in qjackctl..? :D
[07:59] <sakrecoer> anyways, OvenWerks : where should file the bug at best? 
[09:44] <cub> I don't really get what the problem was with the original Ubuntu Studio logo on Facebook or wherever?
[09:45] <cub> It's not like we should change the logo for every release. Why not keep the one we have? Also, are we allowed to alter the logo anyway we want? As there was a lot of discussions and contact with Canonical for the tshirt printing and how we could use the name and so on.
[09:52] <sakrecoer> ok, then the old be it. as for the logo altercation, i believe there is a difference between altering the logo, and creating a mugshot for a social network.
[09:54] <sakrecoer> cub: there was no problem with the logo, there was an expressed desire to update the look on the social networks
[10:03] <cub> Sure, imho the logo should stay the same though. One colour and one B/W version.
[10:05] <sakrecoer> though... no one ever discussed changing the logo. :) are you suggesting i put the B/W there instead?
[10:06] <sakrecoer> there= social networks
[10:22] <cub> No I like the blue one. Strictly marketing speaking the logo change in the new background image is a change to the logo.
[10:22] <cub> usually such changes would not be allowed.
[10:32] <autumna> sakrecoer I like the white one better than the black one. :) 
[10:41] <sakrecoer> cub: the background image, as the desktop wallpaper, the one that is now the header of the facebook page? i think we have two very different views on how "strickt marketing" operates on the level of graphic identity. afaik, the "background image" is not an altercation of the logo. It's an illsutration, used in a marketing context. PErsonaly i would aply that to the mugshot as well, but hey, let's have the blue one there and move on to some
[10:42] <sakrecoer> anyone has tested ross backport?
[10:42] <sakrecoer> autumna: i think so too, but i'm not touching that anymore this week :) the blue logo is fine, and its everywhere.
[10:43] <autumna> sakrecoer: I don't see logo as something immutable but I also see cub's point about it not being a trivial thing
[10:44] <autumna> you can always get some of the text changes to the feature tour done? *ducks the incoming object* :D
[10:50] <sakrecoer> the logo is immutable. using the logo for illustration work is _not_ altercating the logo. i don't say cub's remark is trivial, i'm saying it's out of scope.
[10:50] <sakrecoer> the logo should not be changed. i can see what cub says for the mugshot, absolutely. 
[10:51] <sakrecoer> anyways, yes i could do that, autumna. how is the support text going?
[10:52]  * autumna quickly goes quiet and pretends to be busily working
[10:52] <autumna> :P
[10:52] <autumna> jokes aside I'll get it done before 23rd.
[10:53] <sakrecoer> awesome!
[10:55] <autumna> :)
[11:05] <cub> It comes down to who actually "owns" the logo and are there any restrictions involved. No company I ever worked for would allow making wallpapers with such logo "illustrations" that we allow
[11:05] <cub> Now it's a creative distro so perhaps that's ok
[11:06] <cub> but I feel it should be obvious in some cases to quickly pinpoint that this is an official Ubuntu Studio channel
[11:13] <sakrecoer> cub: i'd much rather have you telling me what picture should be in that header or how the picture should be, than telling me how coporate identity works. i can hear what you are saying in terms of the mughsot. for the header, i am open to your suggestions.
[11:14] <sakrecoer> cub: you are also very welcome to create a proposal for the header.
[11:20] <sakrecoer> cub: in other words how do you envision the header? how do we make it look "official" enough?
[11:43] <cub> I think keep the mugshot or what it's called with the original logo. The header can be really anything. The identity is in the small icon that follows every post.
[11:44] <cub> I just think we should verify if there are any restrictions to the logo. If not, then we should make some guidelines. Unless we think it's ok to use however (which I don't agree with). But for PR purposes there should be a way to quickly identify it's Ubuntu Studio and to me that is the logo.
[11:45] <sakrecoer> cub: cool :) i agree. you right that i makes sense to have the logo pure and simple in the mugshot/icon/facebook-face-thingy
[11:45] <sakrecoer> *it makes sense
[11:46] <autumna> cub need to verify restrictions on the logo is a good point. what also sounds like is down the line it might be beneficial to have some documentation of the visual identity of the ubuntustudio in general. (which would include information on logo variations, official colors etc) 
[11:46] <autumna> down the line. e.g. not next month :D
[11:47]  * autumna away for a bit
[21:40] <geirdal> have posted new background images here http://geirdal.is/index.php/studio-0 , hope Ive got the email list thingy right this time:P