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jimarvangood morning beautiful people! :D09:01
BluesKaj'Morning folks09:57
acheronukQT 5.7 https://www.qt.io/qt-news/qt-company-releases-qt-5-7-new-qt-3d-module-user-interface-library-leveraging-modern-c11-updated-licensing-offering/10:30
clivejoacheronuk: are you going to package Qt5.7?10:44
acheronuknot sure if I can manage 5.6.1 yet!10:45
clivejoacheronuk yofel: do you reckon FW5.23 are ready for backport - http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.23.0_yakkety.html11:01
acheronukI have only tested briefly in a VM, so can't really say11:02
clivejowe need some more Yakkety users!11:03
clivejoguinea piggies11:03
yofeljust backport it and if we know that something breaks apply the fix to yakkety as well11:04
BluesKajwow, the weather network was using 4GB of memory on FF, total usage dropped from 5.5 to 1.5 as soon as I closed the tab 11:05
yofelo.O11:08
yofelsomeone understood pre-caching too literally..11:08
clivejothats a lot of weather11:08
clivejomaybe they distributing weather modelling to end users11:09
BluesKajchrome uses 0.1 GB on the weather network 11:10
clivejooh sugar pops11:14
acheronukIs KCI fallen over, turned off, or just very quiet?11:23
soeeo/11:33
yofelclivejo turned kci off IIRC?11:45
clivejoyup11:45
acheronukAh. I remember you were turning off the daily build.11:47
yofelclivejo: can one selectively enable only unstable?11:58
clivejoprobably, but I dont know how11:58
yofelhm11:58
soeehow do i turn off kmail notfication on my phone (kdeconnect)?12:09
jimarvanclivejo: talked with my boss today, I will embed openstreetmap.org map on our website! :D12:31
jimarvanthank you so much for your help12:31
clivejodid you take any mapillary imagery?12:31
jimarvannot yet no12:33
jimarvantoooooooooooo much work for me these weeks12:33
jimarvan:(12:33
jimarvanI want to prepare for the 2nd dojo and I just can't find time not even for that12:33
clivejoits just an app you run when you're travelling12:34
jimarvanoh! :D12:34
* jimarvan googles it12:34
clivejohttp://www.mapillary.com12:34
jimarvanthanks12:34
jimarvanomg that is awesome, is it easy to edit the places and add them?12:35
jimarvanI will share it to Newquay Facebook group, so everyone in Newquay gets involved12:36
clivejoOSM cant use Streetview due to licencing, but we can use Mapillary12:36
clivejohelps armchair mappers like me map areas I dont know!12:36
clivejoand the images are CC-BY-SA12:40
soeeQt 5.7.0 Officially Is Out13:06
* mamarley has upgraded his systems to Yakkety! :)13:46
mamarleyPretty painless except for the nvidia-340 snapd monkeybusiness.13:46
acheronukgreat :)13:52
mamarleyI like the name too.  It makes me think about old-timey rock-and-roll music. :)13:55
ahoneybunsick_rimmit: do you have a date for the next Dojo?14:47
acheronukwas wondering that as well14:58
sick_rimmitahoneybun: 16:14
sick_rimmitYes mate, Dojo is last Thursday in each month.16:15
sick_rimmitI can't publish article to website, as the login doesn't work16:15
acheronuk30th then16:16
acheronuknoted16:17
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* soee_ spots Plasma 5.7 beta just around the corner ... ;-)16:56
acheronukyes. looks very good https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.6.95.php16:57
geniimamarley: I have a Q regarding nvidia-340 whether ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa is any different than ubuntu restricted repository version17:01
geniiOr, if someone else may know :)17:02
mamarleygenii: The nvidia-340 from graphics-drivers doesn't have the ill-fated snapd patch, but other than that, they are pretty much the same.17:02
mamarleysoee_: acheronuk: I also noticed that there are some Qt 5.6.1 packages in yakkety-proposed, but they are all in dependency wait because there is no qtbase package uploaded yet.17:03
geniimamarley: OK, thanks. Trying to figure if black boxes of #k user's issue is due to something in the restricted driver17:03
soee_i doubt that Qt 5.6 will land in Yakkety any soon17:03
acheronukmamarley:  yes, I'm just test building qt 5.6.1 and saw there were those in the main archive17:04
mamarleysoee_: Have a look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtscript-opensource-src17:05
mamarleyIf it is in -proposed, I wouldn't think it would be that far in the future.17:05
acheronukhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/QtTesting17:06
soee_yes and see how many critical bugs there are17:07
soee_and high priority :)17:08
soee_clivejo: did you pushed magic Backports button ?17:11
acheronuk /me pokes launchpad17:36
* acheronuk can't type17:36
mamarleyacheronuk: In my experience, kicking and fish-slapping tend to work better. :p17:38
acheronukha. it must have heard me! published at last17:39
mhall119soee_: I was told that Mirv will look at 5.6.1 for yakkety when he's back from some time off18:12
* clivejo thinks we should invest in a cattle prod for LP18:27
acheronuklol. out of ppa space18:36
clivejois Qt that big?18:44
acheronukI'm up to 6 source packages (108.9 MiB), 164 binary packages (2.0 GiB)18:52
clivejowhich PPA is it?18:55
clivejoah found it18:55
clivejohow big would let you away?18:55
acheronukhttps://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/images/qt5_build_deps.png18:57
* jimarvan waves18:57
acheronukbuilt up to qttools, but need to rebuild up to their one againt for the doc packages. Then the rest18:57
* acheronuk grrrr typing18:58
clivejohttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtscript-opensource-src/5.6.1+dfsg-218:58
clivejowheres that coming from?18:58
acheronukwhat about it? that is in the main archive but did not build as no qtbase 5.6 for it to build against18:59
clivejooh, just found it in a search18:59
acheronukI saw it and thought "huh"18:59
clivejohow much space would let you away?18:59
clivejoIll request more space for you 19:00
acheronukthis is 12 GB, but they have a lot other than just the QT in there: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-024/+packages19:00
acheronukso maybe 10 would be safe?19:01
acheronukI knew qt was big, but didn't realise there was quite so much of it in addition to qtbase19:08
ahoneybunclivejo: Linode just uped all their plans for VPS by 1 GB19:28
ahoneybunso my plan has 2GBs of RAM once I move to KVM19:28
ahoneybunstill on Xen19:28
mamarleyExcept in Tokyo.19:28
ahoneybunoh?19:28
mamarleyYeah, that region is apparently full so no upgrades there.19:28
ahoneybunmm I use the Georiga one since its the next state from me19:29
clivejothats handy, you can pop over to the DC to turn it off and on again19:38
mamarleyGeorgia borders my state too but it would still take like 6 hours to get there :)19:39
clivejoit sucks being on an Island19:40
mamarley(And involve going through a third state, unless you wanted to be really inefficient.)19:40
clivejowonders how 108.9 MiB of source can generate 2GiB of binary!19:58
clivejoself replicating super Qt19:59
soee_;)20:00
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clivejoacheronuk: is there much more of Qt to upload21:24
acheronukclivejo: see https://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/images/qt5_build_deps.png21:25
clivejoI seen its, its very pretty21:25
acheronukeverything down to qttools is done, but needs a rebuild21:25
acheronukeverything under qttools still to do21:26
clivejoalmost like a swan21:26
acheronukummm.. yes21:26
clivejoare you using debians packaging?21:27
acheronukyes21:30
clivejomuch of a diff?21:30
acheronuknot sure really - ubuntu is still on 5.6.0 in their staging, so didn't look too hard21:31
clivejowonder could we setup KCI to build QT too, like Neon is doing21:33
clivejoyou can be the Qt expert :)21:33
* acheronuk shrinks back in horror21:34
yofelprobably..21:35
clivejoit might be nice to build FW5.23 and Plasma 5.6.5 on Qt5.6.121:36
clivejoI was going to backport FW5.23 today but I just cant get into the mindset to do it21:37
clivejoIll wait for acheronuk to backport Qt21:42
acheronukwill take a day or 2, as have to do a lot of waiting on the deps21:43
clivejoLP still being super slow21:44
acheronukand no guarantee I won't hit trouble I can't solve either21:44
acheronukLP = slow, and just a lot of waiting anyway with this21:45
* clivejo is having lots of fun with insurance companies21:46
acheronukinsurance != fun21:47
clivejoI know, robbing pack of *beep*21:48
clivejooh lovely, after all that they dont insure in N. Ireland21:49
clivejowhy didnt they tell me that when I entered my f'in address21:50
clivejobut no, 6 pages later21:50
acheronukthat's mean. or stupid21:54
clivejooh now theres a bargain21:55
clivejoRight Choice Insurance fully comp for only £6,00021:56
acheronuk????????21:56
* acheronuk faints21:56
* clivejo counts his Bitcoins21:59
clivejonowhere near it21:59
* clivejo rattles his collect box22:01
clivejoFFS The cheapest quote is Santander but they dont recognise my registration.  Yet another Cameron lie about merging the DVLA to one base in Swansea being better for everyone!22:04
acheronukI shall leave that building and say goodnight I think. :)22:12
clivejoI think Ill do the same22:12
clivejodriving me nuts22:12
ahoneybunclivejo: ovidiu-florin seems like Linode want to move my request foreward22:40
clivejowhat request was that?22:40
ahoneybunsome servers22:41
ahoneybunwell nodes22:41
clivejoany details on what we can have?22:49
ahoneybunlooking at a 24gb ssd for the Dojo and maybe a 48gb one for dev22:53
ahoneybunthat's what I asked22:53
soee_almost 2 years bug and still no fix: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/775691/linux/vsync-issue-nvidia-prime-ux32vd-with-gt620-m-/723:46
clivejo<yofel> clivejo: can one selectively enable only unstable?23:56
clivejoappears so - http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_build_yakkety_unstable/23:56
clivejoIve just triggered yakkety unstable23:56
soee_clivejo: why nothing builds here http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.23.0_xenial.html ?23:57
clivejosoee_: I havent uploaded anything yet23:57
soee_ah i see23:57
clivejoI went to start it this morning and wasnt in the mind set23:57
clivejosoee_: acheronuk is working on Qt 5.6.123:59
soee_clivejo: good to hear as this is Plasma 5.7 blocker :/23:59
clivejoindeed23:59

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