[09:01] good morning beautiful people! :D [09:57] 'Morning folks [10:30] QT 5.7 https://www.qt.io/qt-news/qt-company-releases-qt-5-7-new-qt-3d-module-user-interface-library-leveraging-modern-c11-updated-licensing-offering/ [10:44] acheronuk: are you going to package Qt5.7? [10:45] not sure if I can manage 5.6.1 yet! [11:01] acheronuk yofel: do you reckon FW5.23 are ready for backport - http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.23.0_yakkety.html [11:02] I have only tested briefly in a VM, so can't really say [11:03] we need some more Yakkety users! [11:03] guinea piggies [11:04] just backport it and if we know that something breaks apply the fix to yakkety as well [11:05] wow, the weather network was using 4GB of memory on FF, total usage dropped from 5.5 to 1.5 as soon as I closed the tab [11:08] o.O [11:08] someone understood pre-caching too literally.. [11:08] thats a lot of weather [11:09] maybe they distributing weather modelling to end users [11:10] chrome uses 0.1 GB on the weather network [11:14] oh sugar pops [11:23] Is KCI fallen over, turned off, or just very quiet? [11:33] o/ [11:45] clivejo turned kci off IIRC? [11:45] yup [11:47] Ah. I remember you were turning off the daily build. [11:58] clivejo: can one selectively enable only unstable? [11:58] probably, but I dont know how [11:58] hm [12:09] how do i turn off kmail notfication on my phone (kdeconnect)? [12:31] clivejo: talked with my boss today, I will embed openstreetmap.org map on our website! :D [12:31] thank you so much for your help [12:31] did you take any mapillary imagery? [12:33] not yet no [12:33] toooooooooooo much work for me these weeks [12:33] :( [12:33] I want to prepare for the 2nd dojo and I just can't find time not even for that [12:34] its just an app you run when you're travelling [12:34] oh! :D [12:34] * jimarvan googles it [12:34] http://www.mapillary.com [12:34] thanks [12:35] omg that is awesome, is it easy to edit the places and add them? [12:36] I will share it to Newquay Facebook group, so everyone in Newquay gets involved [12:36] OSM cant use Streetview due to licencing, but we can use Mapillary [12:36] helps armchair mappers like me map areas I dont know! [12:40] and the images are CC-BY-SA [13:06] Qt 5.7.0 Officially Is Out [13:46] * mamarley has upgraded his systems to Yakkety! :) [13:46] Pretty painless except for the nvidia-340 snapd monkeybusiness. [13:52] great :) [13:55] I like the name too. It makes me think about old-timey rock-and-roll music. :) [14:47] sick_rimmit: do you have a date for the next Dojo? [14:58] was wondering that as well [16:14] ahoneybun: [16:15] Yes mate, Dojo is last Thursday in each month. [16:15] I can't publish article to website, as the login doesn't work [16:16] 30th then [16:17] noted === alvesadrian is now known as adrian [16:56] * soee_ spots Plasma 5.7 beta just around the corner ... ;-) [16:57] yes. looks very good https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.6.95.php [17:01] mamarley: I have a Q regarding nvidia-340 whether ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa is any different than ubuntu restricted repository version [17:02] Or, if someone else may know :) [17:02] genii: The nvidia-340 from graphics-drivers doesn't have the ill-fated snapd patch, but other than that, they are pretty much the same. [17:03] soee_: acheronuk: I also noticed that there are some Qt 5.6.1 packages in yakkety-proposed, but they are all in dependency wait because there is no qtbase package uploaded yet. [17:03] mamarley: OK, thanks. Trying to figure if black boxes of #k user's issue is due to something in the restricted driver [17:03] i doubt that Qt 5.6 will land in Yakkety any soon [17:04] mamarley: yes, I'm just test building qt 5.6.1 and saw there were those in the main archive [17:05] soee_: Have a look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtscript-opensource-src [17:05] If it is in -proposed, I wouldn't think it would be that far in the future. [17:06] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/QtTesting [17:07] yes and see how many critical bugs there are [17:08] and high priority :) [17:11] clivejo: did you pushed magic Backports button ? [17:36] /me pokes launchpad [17:36] * acheronuk can't type [17:38] acheronuk: In my experience, kicking and fish-slapping tend to work better. :p [17:39] ha. it must have heard me! published at last [18:12] soee_: I was told that Mirv will look at 5.6.1 for yakkety when he's back from some time off [18:27] * clivejo thinks we should invest in a cattle prod for LP [18:36] lol. out of ppa space [18:44] is Qt that big? [18:52] I'm up to 6 source packages (108.9 MiB), 164 binary packages (2.0 GiB) [18:55] which PPA is it? [18:55] ah found it [18:55] how big would let you away? [18:57] https://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/images/qt5_build_deps.png [18:57] * jimarvan waves [18:57] built up to qttools, but need to rebuild up to their one againt for the doc packages. Then the rest [18:58] * acheronuk grrrr typing [18:58] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtscript-opensource-src/5.6.1+dfsg-2 [18:58] wheres that coming from? [18:59] what about it? that is in the main archive but did not build as no qtbase 5.6 for it to build against [18:59] oh, just found it in a search [18:59] I saw it and thought "huh" [18:59] how much space would let you away? [19:00] Ill request more space for you [19:00] this is 12 GB, but they have a lot other than just the QT in there: https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-024/+packages [19:01] so maybe 10 would be safe? [19:08] I knew qt was big, but didn't realise there was quite so much of it in addition to qtbase [19:28] clivejo: Linode just uped all their plans for VPS by 1 GB [19:28] so my plan has 2GBs of RAM once I move to KVM [19:28] still on Xen [19:28] Except in Tokyo. [19:28] oh? [19:28] Yeah, that region is apparently full so no upgrades there. [19:29] mm I use the Georiga one since its the next state from me [19:38] thats handy, you can pop over to the DC to turn it off and on again [19:39] Georgia borders my state too but it would still take like 6 hours to get there :) [19:40] it sucks being on an Island [19:40] (And involve going through a third state, unless you wanted to be really inefficient.) [19:58] wonders how 108.9 MiB of source can generate 2GiB of binary! [19:59] self replicating super Qt [20:00] ;) === mamarley_ is now known as mamarley [21:24] acheronuk: is there much more of Qt to upload [21:25] clivejo: see https://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/images/qt5_build_deps.png [21:25] I seen its, its very pretty [21:25] everything down to qttools is done, but needs a rebuild [21:26] everything under qttools still to do [21:26] almost like a swan [21:26] ummm.. yes [21:27] are you using debians packaging? [21:30] yes [21:30] much of a diff? [21:31] not sure really - ubuntu is still on 5.6.0 in their staging, so didn't look too hard [21:33] wonder could we setup KCI to build QT too, like Neon is doing [21:33] you can be the Qt expert :) [21:34] * acheronuk shrinks back in horror [21:35] probably.. [21:36] it might be nice to build FW5.23 and Plasma 5.6.5 on Qt5.6.1 [21:37] I was going to backport FW5.23 today but I just cant get into the mindset to do it [21:42] Ill wait for acheronuk to backport Qt [21:43] will take a day or 2, as have to do a lot of waiting on the deps [21:44] LP still being super slow [21:44] and no guarantee I won't hit trouble I can't solve either [21:45] LP = slow, and just a lot of waiting anyway with this [21:46] * clivejo is having lots of fun with insurance companies [21:47] insurance != fun [21:48] I know, robbing pack of *beep* [21:49] oh lovely, after all that they dont insure in N. Ireland [21:50] why didnt they tell me that when I entered my f'in address [21:50] but no, 6 pages later [21:54] that's mean. or stupid [21:55] oh now theres a bargain [21:56] Right Choice Insurance fully comp for only £6,000 [21:56] ???????? [21:56] * acheronuk faints [21:59] * clivejo counts his Bitcoins [21:59] nowhere near it [22:01] * clivejo rattles his collect box [22:04] FFS The cheapest quote is Santander but they dont recognise my registration. Yet another Cameron lie about merging the DVLA to one base in Swansea being better for everyone! [22:12] I shall leave that building and say goodnight I think. :) [22:12] I think Ill do the same [22:12] driving me nuts [22:40] clivejo: ovidiu-florin seems like Linode want to move my request foreward [22:40] what request was that? [22:41] some servers [22:41] well nodes [22:49] any details on what we can have? [22:53] looking at a 24gb ssd for the Dojo and maybe a 48gb one for dev [22:53] that's what I asked [23:46] almost 2 years bug and still no fix: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/775691/linux/vsync-issue-nvidia-prime-ux32vd-with-gt620-m-/7 [23:56] clivejo: can one selectively enable only unstable? [23:56] appears so - http://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_build_yakkety_unstable/ [23:56] Ive just triggered yakkety unstable [23:57] clivejo: why nothing builds here http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/frameworks/build_status_5.23.0_xenial.html ? [23:57] soee_: I havent uploaded anything yet [23:57] ah i see [23:57] I went to start it this morning and wasnt in the mind set [23:59] soee_: acheronuk is working on Qt 5.6.1 [23:59] clivejo: good to hear as this is Plasma 5.7 blocker :/ [23:59] indeed