[01:30] <user|37829> Hi! I really love Kubuntu since 11 to 14,04. I love this interface. But since 15 interface was change. Can I use theme of Kubuntu 14,04 on 15 version?
[04:38] <viewer|69356> Hi, there, does anyone know where the sddm put the auth directory now? it used to be /var/run/sddm/, and I used it to start x11vnc. today after a update and reboot, it's gone, and my x11vnc cannot start.
[04:46] <viewer|69356> never mind, it seems sddm is not started. kubuntu changed the desktop manager?
[08:31] <yossarianuk> hi - i'm unable to update today due to the google-talkplugin repo
[08:31] <yossarianuk> getting E: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/talkplugin/deb/pool/main/g/google-talkplugin/google-talkplugin_5.41.3.0-1_amd64.deb  Hash Sum mismatch
[08:32] <yossarianuk> solved my manually downloading and using dpkg.
[08:57] <xrfang> hello, my newly installed kubuntu 16.04 cannot login. the symptom is, I entered CORRECT password on the sddm login screen it freezes the input (as if the password is wrong) forever. meanwhile, I use ctrl-alt-f1 to switch to a console, use same username password, logged in successful. any hint is greatly appreciated!
[08:59] <hateball> xrfang: and this is a fresh install you say? not an upgrade?
[08:59] <xrfang> hateball: yes, fresh install
[08:59] <xrfang> unfortunately upgrade install failed.
[09:01] <hateball> xrfang: hmmm, check the usual suspects then. make sure you own ~/.Xauthority
[09:01] <hateball> xrfang: read ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[09:01] <hateball> as well see if dmesg spits out anything interesting
[09:02] <xrfang> ok, I am trying to setup a new user ...
[09:03] <xrfang> hateball, new user logged in successful. I think I need to clean up the home directory, thanks.
[09:04] <hateball> xrfang: well check the logfiles as I said
[09:04] <hateball> and xauthority
[09:07] <xrfang> hateball: nothing special in .xsession-errors, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log has lots of info, most looks like irrelevant.
[09:08] <hateball> xrfang: and your $user:$user owns ~/.Xauthority ?
[09:08] <xrfang> what's strange is that the old user's Xauthority belongs to my current NEW USER! the new user is created just a minute ago
[09:09] <xrfang> I can change the ownership back to the old user and try again?
[09:09] <hateball> yes
[09:09] <hateball> This tends to happen if one runs GUI apps using sudo
[09:11] <xrfang> hateball: it does not work, same issue. what's strange is that when in the new user's session, konsole session, i entered the old user's directory and chown for all files back to the old user, and log off
[09:11] <xrfang> on log off , system notify me some file is not writeable.
[09:13] <hateball> xrfang: did you chown -R olduser:olduser /home/olduser ?
[09:14] <xrfang> hateball: yes
[09:15] <xrfang> it is strange, now the new user also cannot login
[09:15] <hateball> are they pointing to the same home dir?
[09:15] <hateball> did you make a new install, keeping old home?
[09:15] <xrfang> no, unless something I don't know happened, e.g. they are in fact hard links??
[09:15] <xrfang> yes I kept the old /home partition
[09:16] <hateball> that should be fine, if you used the same username
[09:17] <xrfang> It is very strange, I have 2 user name now, one is the old: xrfang, i just created a new one like
[09:17] <xrfang> (name if the user is "like")
[09:17] <xrfang> I am under /home, now ALL subfolders belongs to like:like
[09:17] <hateball> That's... not good
[09:18] <hateball> xrfang: cat /etc/passwd and see what the entry is for "like"
[09:18] <hateball> and your xrfang user
[09:18] <xrfang> ok
[09:19] <hateball> ideally they dont have the same uid, and the home folder path isnt messed up
[09:19] <xrfang> they are 2 different entries:
[09:19] <xrfang> xrfang:x:1000:1000:xrfang,,,:/home/xrfang:/bin/bash
[09:19] <xrfang> like:x:1001:1001::/home/like:/bin/bash
[09:19] <hateball> hmmm, that looks in order
[09:20] <hateball> xrfang: you have to run chown with sudo, in case that was not clear
[09:20] <xrfang> I did, but something is not consistent
[09:20] <xrfang> when I try to explain to you and re-run the command, i got different result
[09:20] <xrfang> let me try again
[09:21] <hateball> xrfang: who owns the /home folder? This should be root
[09:21] <hateball> and only each user own their individual folders
[09:22] <xrfang> hateball: I just changed that back to root... don't know why it became like:like
[09:23] <xrfang> who should own the folder lost+found? what's that for...?
[09:25] <hateball> xrfang: that's for fsck, it should be owned by root
[09:25] <xrfang> although now the file owners looks ok, but the old user still cannot login, while the new one can...
[09:26] <hateball> xrfang: right, but after you try logging in and it fails, jump to tty and check ~/.xsession-errors
[09:27] <xrfang> hateball: now in tty and that .xsession-errors file is 0-byte
[09:28] <xrfang> on the sddm login screen, pssword input is frozen, the (movable) mouse cursor looks like a bold "X"
[09:31] <hateball> Something is broken, that much is certain
[09:31] <hateball> I wonder, what do permissions look like for other folders on your system?
[09:31] <xrfang> ... ok
[09:31] <xrfang> what "other" do you mean?
[09:31] <hateball> Just so that this "like" user hasnt taken ownership of say /etc and so on
[09:32] <xrfang> under /, all sub folders belong to root
[09:33] <hateball> hmmm hmmm
[09:33] <xrfang> and btw, the installation is very un-smooth, took me about 2-3 hours, because I tried multiple times all except the last 2 installation reported failed to install grub, hence system is not bootable... I have to try again from scratch.
[09:33] <hateball> xrfang: is the disk OK?
[09:33] <hateball> and the filesystem
[09:33] <xrfang> the disk is ok by checking sha256 on the official site.
[09:34] <hateball> I am talking about your SSD/HDD
[09:34] <xrfang> filesystem...  don't know. how to check that? fsck?
[09:34] <hateball> Yes, liveboot and run fsck against your various partitions
[09:34] <xrfang> the target system uses SSD, which is not too old
[09:34] <xrfang> ok, I can try that right now
[09:34] <hateball> xrfang: is it a samsung ssd?
[09:35] <hateball> hmmm, well I gotta go get some lunch but I will be back in a bit, in case you dont solve this on your own
[09:35] <xrfang> according to my knowledge, our IT man only trust INTEL ssd :)
[09:36] <xrfang> OK, I am also leaving in about 10-15min.   I will come back tomorrow see if we can still meet here. thanks a lot for your help!
[09:41] <Guest10861> goodMorning!
[09:45] <giomat> friends would you help with a little issue?
[09:47] <Smurphy> just ask, don't ask if we can help.
[09:48] <giomat> okay then, i'm having trouble setting up some simple scripts on startup
[09:49] <giomat> specifically i'm trying to start at login a script that disable the panel shadows
[09:49] <giomat> if i run it manually everything is ok, but adding it to autostart script doesn't do anything
[09:50] <giomat> googling the problem i found other people having the same issue, but couldn't provide solutions
[09:50] <giomat> i already checked if the script is executable
[09:51] <giomat> do you know if it's a known bug? I'm running kubuntu 16.04 with backports
[09:51] <giomat> other startup applications (such as yakuake) runs fine, only the scripts seem to fail
[09:57] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:07] <hateball> giomat: are the scripts chmod +x ?
[10:10] <giomat> yes, just rechecked
[10:18] <Smurphy> and are the script execute before or after startup ?
[10:18] <Smurphy> (startup of plasma)
[10:31] <giomat> on startup
[10:31] <giomat> (after)
[10:35] <hateball> giomat: try putting a pause in the script?
[10:36] <hateball> in case the services it tries to manipulate has not yet started when it runs
[10:38] <giomat> uuu i never thought about it, should i put it at the start or ath the end of it?
[10:40] <giomat> it should work, the script uses a xorg function (xwminfo) and perhaps xorg has not yet been started when the script runs
[10:40] <hateball> giomat: I've no idea what your script does, but the idea would be to put "sleep 10 && stuff"
[10:40] <giomat> aa okay, so at the beginning
[10:41] <giomat> thanks hateball, i'm trying it right now
[10:49] <giomat> it works!!!
[10:49] <hateball> giomat: :)
[10:49] <giomat> many thanks
[10:49] <hateball> could probably be done nicer if you knew what it depends on to run successfully and wait for that to initialize
[10:49] <hateball> rather than a random sleep timer :p
[10:50] <hateball> but uglier hacks have been made !
[10:50] <giomat> ehehhe
[10:52] <giomat> wasn't the old sysvinit done like this? with random sleep timers to wait for all the initializations?
[10:53] <hateball> pretty much
[11:06] <jubo2> Ok..
[11:06] <jubo2> Ist reinstallzeit
[11:07] <jubo2> Gonna do this procedure: http://byjuho.fi/en/2015/12/02/original-howto-migrate-gnulinux-to-bigger-disk-with-clean-install-and-grab-all-apt-gettable-software-settings-and-files/
[11:09] <jubo2> see ya
[11:23] <Tanjoodo> ok so this has been annoying me for a while. Whenever I start firefox (or Nightly in this case) where it opens the previous session containing multiple windows, the task switcher doesn't group the windows like it should http://imgur.com/8s8ISfH
[11:26] <acheronuk> Tanjoodo: there will be a new taskmanager backend in plasma 5.7 that will hopefully improve things like that - https://blogs.kde.org/2016/05/31/new-plasma-task-manager-backend-faster-better-wayland
[11:29] <Tanjoodo> acheronuk, that is good news
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Firefox has a memory leak on flash heavy websites like the weather network, my usage creeped from 1.4GB to 5.5 in matter of 5mins
[11:47] <BluesKaj> or is it adblock that's using the memory? Investigating that possibility
[11:47] <acheronuk> both can eat memory
[11:49] <BluesKaj> yeah, but one is taking a lot more than the other , checking now
[11:52] <jubo2> y0 people.. Got a slight problem
[11:52] <jubo2> After extracting the .dotdirs over this newly installed Kubuntu the KDE Wallet Service says my passkey is not correct
[11:53] <jubo2> or some other problem like that
[11:53] <jubo2> error number -9
[11:53] <jubo2> I changed the password compared to the previous system but this shouldn't affect KDE Wallet right?
[11:54] <jubo2> so any pointers on what to do about this would be much appreciated
[11:57] <BluesKaj> with adblock disabled the usage switches from the  memory to the cpu it increased to between 60-70% from 30%
[11:58] <hateball> BluesKaj: I switched to µBlock instead, it is way less resource hungry I find
[11:58] <hateball> this is in chromium however
[11:58] <hateball> jubo2: did you move from kwallet4 to kwallet5 ?
[11:59] <jubo2> hateball: not sure.. I ... I.. I think I did a stupid move.. I extracted the .dotdirs over the existing ones before running 'sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade'
[11:59] <jubo2> now upgrading 600+ packages
[12:00] <jubo2> So possibly need to start over with the clean install
[12:03] <jubo2> though doing it the other way around could also break stuff imo
[12:04] <jubo2> Doing this like I describe here -> http://byjuho.fi/en/2015/12/02/original-howto-migrate-gnulinux-to-bigger-disk-with-clean-install-and-grab-all-apt-gettable-software-settings-and-files/
[12:04] <jubo2> I like keeping the previous GNU/Linux intact so I just cycle to next disk for each clean install
[12:05] <jubo2> Lenovos are really nice for juggling disks in and out
[12:07] <jubo2> Oh well.. I let this apt upgrade run and reboot and see where I am
[12:16] <jubo2> reboot. bbiab.
[12:19] <jubo2> mmmhh.. kdewallet still not opening
[12:19] <jubo2> I'll check version
[12:20] <jubo2> I don't know how to check for version number
[12:20] <jubo2> I think I redo the installation
[12:21] <jubo2> this time I upgrade all packages to latest and only then extract the .dotdirectories
[12:21] <jubo2> yep.
[12:22] <jubo2> seeya
[12:31] <jubo2> y0 people
[12:32] <jubo2> I think (not sure) the last time around trying to install clean Kubuntu it did accept the KDEWalletService passkey once
[12:32] <jubo2> anyways.. that installation is now blown into bit dust and new one is in the works
[12:34] <jubo2> What does the KDE Wallet hold of value anyways besides WiFi shared secrets?
[12:36] <BluesKaj> I don't use it and t's delted
[12:36] <BluesKaj> deleted even
[12:37] <jubo2> and where does it keep its stuff.. I mean since it is likely that the extractin of the .dotdirs will break it again I wanna get the empty one into safekeeping in case the extracted one still thinksmy passkey is wrong
[12:38] <BluesKaj> dunno, it was too clunky for mr 10yrs ago so I never used it, being a home user I never saw much point
[12:40] <jubo2> and do I gather right that super user has no way to log-in otherwise but via 'sudo su'..? coz it either that or I don't know my su password
[12:43] <yossarianuk> jubo2: if you set a root pass you can get to root using 'su -'
[12:45] <yossarianuk> jubo2: there is also su -i
[12:58] <hateball> You should use sudo -i, if you must have an interactive root shell
[12:58] <hateball> Otherwise the environment may not be set up correctly
[13:10] <Smurphy> ack...
[13:19] <jubo2> I gonna boot to the old OS and export the wallet
[13:19] <jubo2> Hopefully that way I can get a working wallet with secrets intact
[13:20] <hateball> jubo2: there is some migration thing, but it requires having both kwalletd4 and 5 running afaik
[13:20] <hateball> I just gave up getting it working and started fresh
[13:21] <hateball> It should be handled when you do-release-upgrade but that's not been the case in my experience
[13:23] <jubo2> they should be the same version as both OS are Kubuntu16.04
[13:39] <jubo2> ok..
[13:39] <jubo2> found a workaround
[13:39] <jubo2> delete the wallet one cannot access due to not knowing what the passkey is and import the encrypted old wallet into its place and it takes the old passkey happily and has all the secrets intact
[13:40] <m5l> Hello, I have a problem with cpu frequency scaling. I want to set a max. cpu frequency at boot because  my notebook becomes extremly loud while surfing normal webpages (even HD video playback is more quiet) .  For that i installed sysfsutils and set "powersave" as governor and 1500000 scaling_max_freq . It is not working: cpufreq-info shows me "performance" as governor and a frequency range of 3.10ghz-3.10ghz
[13:41] <m5l> I have a sandybridge i5 quadcore cpu, my driver is intel_pstate
[13:48] <jimarvan> m5l: hi have you checked on ubuntu/kubuntu forums for that issue?
[13:49] <jimarvan> I am really curious if anyone else has experienced it
[13:55] <johns_> is there a way to force a systemd service to be run at bootup? I am trying to get a custom, well, not custom, I am just trying to run SysV cryptdisks.
[13:55] <johns_> before when I added it to sysinit.target.wants, it seemed to work, but no longer.
[13:56] <johns_> I want it to run after LVM volumes have loaded.
[13:57] <johns_> I created a small .service file for it with dependencies on boot.mount.
[13:59] <johns_> it is supposed to run after boot.mount, but boot.mount is a "virtual" service and has no file on disk for it.
[14:01] <jubo2> uhh..
[14:01] <jubo2> I dunno the root password for the MariaDB
[14:01] <jubo2> So I need to.. purge it and reinstall clean, right?
[14:01] <jubo2> The purge will lose the root password right?
[14:03] <jubo2> nope
[14:03] <jubo2> how do I lose the root password so I can set it again upon reinstallation?
[14:04] <hateball> What is using mariadb?
[14:05] <hateball> jubo2: at any rate, a google gives http://superuser.com/questions/949496/cant-reset-mysql-mariadb-root-password
[14:14] <jubo2> yep. sorted
[14:15] <johns_> I guess what I am saying is is that cryptdisks.service does not run, and I don't know why, and there are no logs for it, and the service is enabled, but it doesn't do anything while booting, even though it runs fine after a manual start.
[14:16] <johns_> i just need the service to run at boot and it won't do it. I've embedded it now between local-fs-pre and local-fs, maybe that will work.
[14:16] <johns_> brb
[14:21] <jubologr> whoops..
[14:22] <jubologr> I installed low-latency kernel with a SDB1 hooked to the system and it included those OS in the GRUB
[14:22] <jubologr> So I need to rescan the available partitions
[14:22] <jubo2> yep... I can search engine that
[14:23] <jubo2> but if someone happens to know from the top-of-their-head
[14:24] <BluesKaj> whoops is for partying , oops is for mistakes, but most don't know that since those who dosn't know the difference are spreading the wrong lingo
[14:24] <BluesKaj> don't know
[14:25] <BluesKaj> just one of those things that bugs me
[14:36] <RIZKAL1> what command for install sypnatics touchpad ?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> sudo apt install xserver-xorg-input-synaptiks, but it should be installed by default
[14:42] <BluesKaj> oops synaptics, ....lucky he left :-)
[14:51] <jubo2> there is probably a switch to just test validity of a .tar.gz without extracting the files
[14:52] <jubo2> coz sometimes the .tar.gz are corrupt
[14:52] <jubo2> so I redundantly extract them right after creating them just to see it works
[15:09] <Croydon>  hi. im trying to install kubuntu right now, but it fails at step 2 with ubi partman exit code  141
[15:09] <Croydon> can anybody help me pls
[15:11] <jubo2> Croydon: sound like a broken disk but I am no expert on this
[15:12] <Croydon> I have serveral partition on the same hard drive, so the drive is working fine
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Croydon:  do you have any ext partitions ready for an OS?
[15:16] <BluesKaj> Croydon:  if possible use manual partitoning
[15:17] <Croydon> BluesKaj they are currently NFTS I suppose, but shouldnt kubuntu be able to detect them , so that I can reformat *questenmark, keyboard layout is not right*
[15:18] <Croydon> I get this error aftet the preparation step, I dont see any partitions in the setup
[15:18] <BluesKaj> Croydon:  so you aren't getting as far as the partitoning options page?
[15:19] <Croydon> correct, it fails before
[15:20] <BluesKaj> ok is this an EFI machine ?
[15:20] <Croydon> yes, I have disabled secure boot
[15:20] <Croydon> if this should matter
[15:21] <BluesKaj> do you have a prepared ext4 partition for kubuntu?
[15:22] <Croydon> BluesKaj, no, afaik it is NFTS right now *or FAT32, not absolutely sure
[15:23] <Croydon> but I have a partition clean for kubuntu prepared
[15:24] <BluesKaj> it's easier to use gparted to partition the space ahead of time and formatted to ext4, this might work , but I'm not familiar with the error you're receiving
[15:26] <johns_> Trying to get a SysV "cryptdisks" service to run inside SystemD, and I'm trying to get it run before local-fs-pre.target, but it just won't work, I think the service is deleted by the "scheduler" as it thinks there are some conflicts of some kind.
[15:27] <Croydon> BluesKaj is gparted able to successfully detected the already existing partitions, I cant afford to risk the overwriting of any of them
[15:27] <user|55663> what are the min specs for latest kubuntu lts
[15:27] <johns_> Croydon: every partitin tool will see all existing partitions......
[15:28] <Croydon> alright, might have been a stupid question, sorry
[15:28] <johns_> Croydon: It's more whether you feel safe operating on them directly, but it is a graphical tool.
[15:30] <johns_> I'm sorry, I didn't know the topic at hand, didn't mean to interrupt.
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Croydon:  gparted live media is very safe to use , much better than the partitioner in kubuntu/ubiquity installer, and I think if you set the ext4 partiton up, ahead of time your problrm will disappear
[15:30] <user|55663> @johns_ I am not sure that fdisk can see or operate on logical volumes
[15:31] <johns_> user|55663: I assumed they were talking about "real" partitions.
[15:32] <BluesKaj> !specs | user|55663:
[15:33] <user|55663> ubottu thank you
[15:33] <user|55663> ok
[15:33] <johns_> I am trying to create a "custom" SystemD service entry but it appears that in most cases it gets wiped from the chain of services to start.
[15:33] <johns_> However, that log is not saved, so I cannot even troubleshoot it.
[15:34] <johns_> If I just include it as a "wants" target it may get run, but then nothing will wait on it.
[15:35] <johns_> Most people are not happy about SystemD so I do not even know where to get help.
[15:35] <johns_> I mean, who feels like even know that ......
[15:36] <johns_> Basically I don't know why the service is getting deleted.
[15:36] <BluesKaj> johns_:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers
[15:39] <Croydon> I have formated the partition to ext4, gparted is describing it as a basic data partition, flags msftdata, but I still get ubi partman fails with exit code 141, before seeing any partition options in the installer
[15:41] <BluesKaj> no flags needed
[15:42] <Croydon> btw, since I dont have any cds and usb devices for use available I use another small partition on the same device for the kubuntu live image and setup files, is this causing problems
[15:43] <BluesKaj> yes
[15:44] <BluesKaj> you need to install from a separate device/drive
[15:45] <Croydon> oh no
[15:46] <BluesKaj> be careful nas well not to remove the hidden uefi boot and ms rescue partitions if you intend to keep windows on the machine
[15:46] <BluesKaj> as
[15:46] <Croydon> in fact I have an extern usb device, but a lot of files on them, is it possible to have there a live image without removing the other files
[15:47] <BluesKaj> Croydon:  recommend you use legacy boot if available
[15:47] <BluesKaj> the image has to be bootable like a cdrom or usb
[15:51] <johns_> BluesKaj: thanks, using "systemd-analyze verify" now. The moment I add a "time" dependency to my new service, SystemD will start deleting stuff to break ordering cycles. Apparently that means I tell it to do something before a thing happens that wants my thing to happen after?
[15:52] <BluesKaj> apparently you need to write a daemon for your service unles it's at stsrtup only,  johns_
[15:52] <johns_> BluesKaj: it is startup only. It is just cryptdisks from SysV.
[15:53] <johns_> BluesKaj: I will have to reboot to see what happens. Brb.
[15:53] <genii> johns_: There is also the #systemd channel. it has around 600-700 users in there. I'm sure you could get more definitive answers
[15:54] <Croydon> I have read that grup can boot directly an iso file, if i copy the kubuntu iso on my extern usb drive and use the grup from the current live partition *same device as the partition I want to install kubuntu on*, is it working then or do I have the same *same device* problem then
[15:56] <Croydon> sorrz, if I ask naively, I dont have much experience yet with everything linux related and Im stuck with that problem now for a few hours already
[15:59] <Croydon> or maybe I should just get a cd , burn it and do that another day...
[16:00] <BluesKaj> Croydon: I've heard of this , but never used it , perhaps it will work for you , the install from grub menuentry, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot#Installing_Ubuntu_from_a_Menuentry_Boot
[16:02] <Croydon> hm, I will try something, thanks BluesKaj so far!
[16:07] <johns_> BluesKaj: back. I have no clue how to do this. The moment I add any one "Before:" relationship, "systemd-analyze verify <xxx>" will output a random number of problems.
[16:08] <johns_> BluesKaj: the number of problems reported is between 1-6 I think but it seems to be completely random how many issues it identifies.
[16:09] <BluesKaj> johns_: perhaps the guys at #systemd can help
[16:17] <allesz_> hi guys. somehow my display configuration is screwed up. When I connect a second monitor my laptop screen is turned off. this was fine for some time but now I want both the lapttop screen and a second monitor. how can I reset my display configuration>
[16:18] <rattking> allesz_: those configurations are stored in ~/.local/share/kscreen/
[16:18] <johns_> BluesKaj: I think I forgot to turn off "defaultdependencies"
[16:19] <allesz_> rattking: is it safe to delete them?
[16:20] <rattking> yeah they will be recreated when you configure the various displays.. or if you are worried you could move the files somewhere else
[16:21] <allesz_> rattking: thanks a lot that solved it. yeah!
[16:21] <rattking> woohoo!
[16:26] <allesz_> I am starting to like kde again ;-)
[16:34] <me7> is anybody else having trouble with firefox?
[16:34] <me7> first it was just display boxes apeared black , now it crashing all the time on websites
[16:36] <allesz_> no haven't. in evolution I get sometimes blank buttons for confirming a meeting.
[16:36] <allesz_> since a couple of days
[16:36] <me7> this all started i think two updates ago
[16:36] <me7> black box thing was like 2 months now
[16:37] <me7> the stability thing is new
[16:37] <me7> same system and all
[16:37] <me7> even did a clean reinstall after a boched attempt to fixc the black bock problem
[16:38] <me7> some one on some forum said they solved it by installed some new fonts
[16:38] <me7> did it and system would boot lol
[16:38] <me7> wouldn't i meant
[16:38] <allesz_> me7: sorry cant confirm here
[16:39] <me7> kubuntu ltr?
[16:39] <me7> i mean lts
[16:39] <me7> what i'm using
[16:39] <allesz_> did you try maybe a newer firefox (firefox developer edition) https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/
[16:40] <me7> i only download what the software updater has for me to download
[16:40] <allesz_> not part of the distro but pretty stable for me
[16:40] <me7> can use kubuntu , not really good and installing manually things
[16:41] <genii> Sounds like a video driver issue
[16:41] <me7> might be , as the site that crash seem to be heavy on adds
[16:41] <me7> strangely porn site can stream fine lol
[16:41] <allesz_> lol
[16:42] <me7> hmm using recomened driver , maybe try a different one?
[16:42] <allesz_> what chipset does your card have
[16:42] <me7> old nvdiia gms mobile laptop card
[16:42] <allesz_> hmm nvidia is normally pretty stable. are you using the open sourcxe driver or proprietary?
[16:43] <me7> let me look at driver info
[16:43] <allesz_> usually you will need to install the proprietary driver yourself If I remember correctly
[16:44] <me7> its a geforce 8400m card
[16:44] <me7> looking for driver info
[16:45] <me7> well installed some x-server app but doesn't tell what driver
[16:45] <me7> ahh driver says only 340.96
[16:46] <me7> vendor "The x-org Foundation"
[16:47] <genii> me7: Perhaps pastebin the output of: sudo lshw -C video   ( you may need to install the lshw package first )
[16:47] <genii> !pastebin
[16:48] <me7> sudo] password for na:
[16:48] <me7>   *-display
[16:48] <me7>        description: VGA compatible controller
[16:48] <me7>        product: G86M [GeForce 8400M GS]
[16:48] <me7>        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[16:48] <me7>        physical id: 0
[16:50] <genii> me7: Please use a pastebin, as described by the bot above. This is why I did the !pastebin in the first place :)
[16:50] <genii> The bot will let you talk again shortly
[16:51] <acheronuk> yes, nvidia lists 340.96 as the latest compatible driver with that GPU
[16:51] <me7> k what does past been do
[16:51] <me7> bin
[16:52] <genii> acheronuk: I'm more interested in the line which truncated, that tells the configuration and resources
[16:52] <me7> paste in there then copy again and post?
[16:52] <me7> product: G86M [GeForce 8400M GS]
[16:52] <me7> product: G86M [GeForce 8400M GS]
[16:52] <genii> me7: A pastebin is a website to where you can put large amounts of text. Then after you do that, give us the URL to where that text is, instead of putting it into the channel
[16:53] <me7> vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[16:53] <me7> physical id: 0
[16:53] <me7> bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
[16:53] <genii> me7: PLEASE USE A PASTEBIN
[16:53] <genii> !pastebin | me7
[16:54] <me7> k trying
[16:54] <me7> tital is
[16:54] <Unit193> me7: You go to http://paste.kde.org paste the text there, hit the submit button, and it'll give you a url to paste here rather than a block of text.
[16:55] <me7> https://paste.kde.org/pz5ssbblh/a5tvqh
[16:55] <me7> pass is me7
[16:55] <me7> sry
[16:59] <genii> me7: I am making an enquiry into the driver, please be patient
[16:59] <me7> np . thx for any help
[17:00] <me7> used kubuntu on this old lappy for over a year without any problem
[17:00] <me7> maybe i installed something wrong when i reinstalled here recently
[17:00] <me7> besites site were slow as hell , fixed that with a ssd or so i thought
[17:00] <me7> websites i meant
[17:05] <genii> me7: I was thinking to recommend same version driver from a more updated PPA, but the author of that driver tells me there is no real difference between thatone and what you currently are using
[17:05] <me7> hmm then the mystery continues
[17:06] <me7> as this is just a recent problem , no text in boxes now the stability of firefox
[17:06] <me7> gonna have to go back to drawing board :/
[17:09] <me7> i get site are loading bout loads of video adds , but again tested free porn site and can easily stream 3 hd vids , so makes no sense
[17:09] <me7> pc is old 1.4 mhz core 2 duo lol
[17:10] <me7> but has worked for thus far
[17:10] <me7> k ram could use an upgrade at 2 gig
[17:11] <genii> me7: This only happens in the web browser, and no other applications?
[17:11] <me7> yep just firefox
[17:11] <me7> steam client works fine
[17:11] <est31> I want to copy stuff via mtp to my mobile phone
[17:11] <me7> unless i try a game i obvioulsy don't have a chance to render
[17:11] <est31> I've installed the kio mtp package doesnt work though
[17:11] <me7> i can play robo craft for hours without c rash or serious lock up
[17:12] <me7> i can even play team fortress 2 lol
[17:12] <me7> but webpages are now my nemesis
[17:13] <genii> me7: Please put the URL of  about:plugins   into your browser bar, and then right-lick, Select All, then Copy ... then put the text into a pastebin like before, giving us the URL for that
[17:14] <me7> ?
[17:14] <genii> right-click, rather....
[17:14] <me7> is that a command in console
[17:14] <est31> no
[17:14] <est31> in your browser
[17:14] <est31> open firefox
[17:14] <est31> press ctrl+l
[17:14] <est31> then enter about:plugins
[17:14] <est31> and enter
[17:14] <me7> ok i get yea then use the past thing
[17:15] <genii> me7: No. There is a place in firefox where you can manually type into the browser to go directly to, for instance www.google.com  ... in that place, put instead:  about:plugins
[17:15] <Croydon> So i actually got to the point, where I am running the setup and it is running now for some time, how can I make sure that it is still doing something? the overview is not changing anymore
[17:15] <genii> est31: Thanks :)
[17:15] <genii> trying to eat lunch and assist at the same time...
[17:15] <est31> np
[17:16] <est31> genii, what was me7's problem?
[17:16] <me7> https://paste.kde.org/pgzilnrbo/jocnoc
[17:16] <me7> pass plugs
[17:17] <genii> est31: He experiences black boxes with no content on websites with ads, not an nvidia driver issue, doesn't occur in other apps
[17:17] <me7> trying to trouble shoot od things in firefox  that have been accuring lately
[17:17] <est31> ah
[17:19] <genii> me7: Looks like you're missing some plugins which could be causing issues... like a Java
[17:20] <me7> hmm , when i reinstalled i opted for extras package
[17:20] <me7> wonder what happend
[17:21] <genii> me7: You should probably also install kubuntu-restricted-extras if you haven't already
[17:21] <me7> where do i get this from?
[17:21] <est31> I'll log out and back in again to test sth
[17:21] <genii> !restricted | me7
[17:22] <genii> afk, food
[17:23] <est31> still having problems with this mtp thing
[17:25] <me7> k just used console to download and install should i reboot?
[17:27] <genii> reboot not required
[17:27] <genii> megm_: ^
[17:27] <genii> meh, tab fail
[17:28] <Croydon> does somebody know if the "contribute to kubuntu - installation will be finished soon" screen is the last one in the kubuntu installer or is it supposed to show other information after that, some kind of rotation or so, any sign of life?
[17:29] <genii> est31: I have never been able to get my old Samsung S2 working with MTP and Kubuntu, so I'm not much help there, sorry...
[17:29] <Croydon> I really just want to know if it is frozen or I just have to be patient
[17:29] <seevee> I believe that's the last one, but I don't know for sure.
[17:30] <me7> well survived the restricted formats install
[17:30] <me7> but still the black box problem
[17:31] <me7> hmm
[17:31] <est31> genii, what were the plugins?
[17:32] <genii> est31: He had only flash and openH264 plugins. No Java
[17:33] <me7> just check still no java plugin
[17:33] <est31> me7, maybe look what about:addons shows?
[17:33] <me7> it says i don't have any addons of this type installed
[17:34] <est31> you might try to move or the ~/.firefox folder
[17:34] <est31> while firefox is closed
[17:34] <est31> then re-open firefox
[17:34] <est31> it will create a new profile
[17:34] <est31> if it helps we know its some  user side thing only
[17:34] <me7> i rebooted after that restricted formats install
[17:34] <est31> me7, what exactly is the problem?
[17:35] <est31> ads showing up where they are not supposed to show up?
[17:35] <est31> or something else
[17:35] <me7> same as before , firefox is unstable and i can't see info boxes
[17:35] <me7> black boxes for months the stability thing just started like a month ago
[17:36] <me7> we check driver and no these restricted extras
[17:36] <est31> genii, unfortunately modern android cant behave like a normal usb stick anymore
[17:36] <me7> so  no clue at this point
[17:36] <seevee> I'm having an issue w/ telepathy/kde-talk: I can't register new accounts or get any existing account to connect.
[17:36] <est31> me7, where are black boxes?
[17:37] <me7> web pages PLUS firefox quick launch bars
[17:37] <me7> like i go hover mouse of book mark sybol and its black too
[17:37] <est31> it might be an open gl issue
[17:37] <est31> I have this too
[17:37] <est31> OR
[17:37] <me7> we check driver , seems to be standard
[17:37] <est31> maybe related to the gtk3 move
[17:38] <me7> both these things happend directly after firefox updates
[17:38] <me7> first the black boxes now lately stbility issue
[17:38] <est31> when was that
[17:38] <me7> stability sry
[17:38] <est31> which firefox version first showed the issue?
[17:38] <me7> over last few months
[17:39] <me7> so last two release , i let the auto updated tell me when to update fire fox
[17:39] <genii> me7: You whould also install the package called: icedtea-plugin
[17:39] <me7> so when ever it poped up and said firefox update is when
[17:39] <genii> ( to get Java)
[17:39] <me7> k whats command to get that
[17:40] <genii> me7: sudo apt-get icedtea-plugin
[17:40] <genii> me7: sudo apt install icedtea-plugin    ...rather
[17:40] <est31> me7, can you download firefox 45 from this location
[17:41] <est31> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/45.0.2esr/
[17:41] <est31> and test whether the issue is still there
[17:41] <me7> lets try java see if that fixes it
[17:41] <me7> if not new firefox last bet
[17:41] <est31> and then download https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/46.0.1/
[17:41] <est31> to try whether firefox 46 added it
[17:42] <me7> k got it
[17:42] <genii> est31: Alternately, just add the mozilla daily ppa....
[17:42] <me7> how to check if installed
[17:42] <genii> work, afk
[17:43] <me7> well black boxes still lol
[17:44] <me7> ok see iced to plug in
[17:44] <me7> say ask to activate
[17:44] <me7> should i set it to always activate?
[17:46] <me7> eiher way black boxes still
[17:46] <me7> lol now this is a mystery
[17:47] <me7> hopefully all this will help with stability though
[17:47] <Scunizi> I just installed 16.04 and did an fdisk -l ... There are 15 ram disks listed each 64MiB and mounted at /dev/ram(number of disk).. Is this normal?
[17:47] <genii> me7: After installing the icedtea, need to restart the browser
[17:48] <genii> ..and make sure it shows it now with the   about:plugins
[17:48] <me7> k brb
[17:50] <me7> good news it showing up under plugins
[17:50] <me7> bad news black boxes still
[17:52] <me7> better news solutions so far hasn't destroyed the os  :)
[17:57] <genii> me7: If you want to live dangerously and see if the newest Firefox solves anything... sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa   and then... sudo apt update   then... sudo apt install firefox-trunk  after this, you would see: Firefox Nightly Web Browser as an application you can run
[17:59] <me7> saved your msg to a text file for later
[17:59] <me7> need pc to work for rest of day :)
[17:59] <allesz_> I would go with the developer edition. it is newer but not as new and unstable as nightly imho
[18:00] <me7> but seems like only final solution at this point i think we've checked everything
[18:00] <allesz_> you could also try out: chromium-browser, opera, vivaldi, google chrome, ... ;-) lucky we have some choices nowadays
[18:00] <me7> will give it a shot , want to see if these extras i've added helps with stability first
[18:01] <me7> yea i'm just kinda stubborn , used to firefox and all
[18:01] <genii> me7: Another explanation might be that the ads on the website take up more bandwidth than your internet connection can handle
[18:01] <genii> ( or that the ad provider's servers are slow)
[18:01] <me7> now something broke it , not sue if system update or firefox , i ignored it thinking they'd catch it and fix it but , i gues not
[18:02] <me7> test it again hd porn , porn works
[18:02] <me7> ok i wish i was joking
[18:03] <me7> i get that adds are geting shoved down our throws like nobodies bussines , but i can't see how adds would take up more system resources than 3 hd streaming in seperate windows
[18:03] <me7> btw system spec are old as dirt 1.4 core 2 duo 2 gigs of ram
[18:04] <me7> but has worked last year and half sinse i turned it into a kubuntu lappy
[18:04] <me7> also i'm runnin git off of a ssd , so that helps
[18:04] <me7> or did
[18:05] <me7> i might just have to bite the bullet and turn my win7 laptop into a dual boot machine , but i like have two systems functional
[18:05] <genii> I'm beginning to suspect the server from which the ads are originating from is probably just slow
[18:06] <me7> what i probally aught to do though is put some adds on some hard ware trading forums and see if somebody would donate a old ass 2 gig ram module at cost of shipping
[18:07] <me7> these rams are like 50 bucks if you can find em and they have to run pair on these motherboard
[18:07] <me7> like ddr the orignal lol
[18:08] <me7> this weekend i'll try out some different web browsers
[18:08] <me7> i can deal with the blank info boxes , but stability is driving me bonkers
[18:13] <me7> alright i'm off , genii and the others , thanks a ton for helping with the trouble shooting , wish i could report a fix was found , but that happens :) in the meant time i learned alot about stuff i'll keep on my to install list next time i install a linux distro
[18:35] <seevee> I'm having an issue w/ telepathy/kde-talk: I can't register a new kdetalk account or get my existing google account to connect.
[18:39] <shadeslayer> seevee: ive seen the gtalk issue too
[18:39] <shadeslayer> I think they changed the gtalk api
[18:43] <kfh> Does anyone here have a sample plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc file where they've successfully set an icon for a panel widget for a local script?
[18:46] <seevee> Bummer... any idea on the KDE Talk issue?
[18:47] <seevee> Also, if I remove all the accounts, the throbber will still appear over the system try icon indicating it's still trying to connect
[19:33] <johns_> people how can I file a bug with Kubuntu? I just cannot find out out to do it. Launchpad is a nightmare.
[19:33] <johns_> how to do it*.
[19:33] <johns_> maybe I should just tell you people instead :p ;-).
[19:35] <johns_> maybe I should report it against ubiquity, I don't know.
[19:35] <johns_> but there is a package that seems to be borked and requires a reinstall after installation.
[19:40] <akaisora__> jimarvan: hi!
[20:22] <memphisto> Hi
[20:25] <bprompt> allo
[20:44] <jubo2> hmmm..
[20:44] <jubo2> having a weird issue with my newly freshly installed Kubuntu
[20:45] <jubo2> My midi controller, when connected to the fluidsynth plays sounds just fine
[20:45] <jubo2> it just seems all the other sounds are gone
[20:45] <jubo2> youtube plays video but no sound
[20:45] <jubo2> and spotify does not play at all
[20:47] <jubo2> weird, huh?
[20:47] <jubo2> I was starting to be so happy with my fresh Kubuntu
[20:47] <jubo2> now I'm a little bit bummered
[21:04] <seevee> jubo2: make sure your audio device preferences are correctly set in KMix. Your midi controller may have taken priority from the default playback devices when activated.
[21:04] <jubo2> seevee: I set the ALSA-bridge on before reboot (no effect then) but after reboot the sounds are back 100%
[21:06] <seevee> jubo2: Good to hear!
[21:06] <seevee> I have my own problem:
[21:06] <jubo2> ok. except weird bug with the codec youtube uses..
[21:06] <seevee> I'm having an issue w/ telepathy/kde-talk: I can't register a new kdetalk account or get my existing google account to connect.
[21:26] <tarator> Hi there I can't move/resize the analogue clock plasma widget in Kubuntu 16.04. Anybody else got the same problem?
[21:28] <tarator> Press LMB and hold did the trick...