=== chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [01:37] Good day. Snappy is getting a lot of buzz recently so I though I would check it out. I'm a little confused how I'm supposed to assess the quality of snap packages. From what I read, anything that makes it into the snappy repository is supposed to undergo some sort of quality assurance. When I use snappy's to find packages I see this one: "sudo 1 chipaca - not sudo". What am I supposed to make of this? Can I === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [04:11] elopio: I added the integration test and I believe that the code is ready. Can you confirm? === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [05:03] welp I have no idea what changed, but I can no longer launch any of my snaps === rharper` is now known as rharper === stevebis1uit is now known as stevebiscuit === lpotter__ is now known as lpotter === qengho_ is now known as qengho === sarnold_ is now known as sarnold [06:52] Was there anything I can do about the "failed to create user data directory. errmsg: Permission denied [06:53] " error in snapd 2.0. release on xenial? [06:53] nhaines_: do you have an encrypted home sirectory? [06:53] *directory [06:54] nhaines_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1592696 [06:54] Launchpad bug 1592696 in ubuntu-core-launcher (Ubuntu) "snaps dont work with encrypted home: failed to create user data directory. errmsg: Permission denied" [Undecided,In progress] [06:54] nhaines_: some progress here fortunately :) [06:54] tsimonq2: might be interessting for you as well [06:54] mvo: I moved off of an encrypted home directory today, and all snaps work fine now [06:55] anyone heard of anyone bringing snaps to sailfishOS? [06:55] looks like jdstrand has it under control [06:55] I just uploaded to yakkety [06:55] I'm going to push the changes to snap-confine now [06:55] lpotter: I have not heard anything, but its probably straightforward (given the amount of ports to other distros available) [06:55] jdstrand: \o/ [06:57] mvo: when do we expect the snapconfine to 16.04? I ask cause I keep thinking its coming, but then more stuff was needed for cross-distro. anyway, trying to decide if need a separate sru for the ecryptfs changes or if snap-confine is uploaded soon, just waiting for that [06:58] mvo: zyga said maybe for 2.0.9 or 2.0.10 at latest === nhaines_ is now known as nhaines [07:08] jdstrand: I think we can do it right away, its fully compatible, isn't it? [07:11] mvo: snap-confine? I thought it depended on snap-run, etc, etc. not to mention, package name change, etc. I wasn't involved in the coding for any of that. aiui, it is supposed to work, but I got the impression you were driving the snap-run/snap-confine changes (and zyga the cross-distro bits). if I were to sru, I would just upload ubuntu-core-launcher with the apparmor change === pedronis` is now known as pedronis [07:23] jdstrand: right, I'm driving snap run but its to a certain degree independent, we still provide ubuntu-core-launcher as a compat option in snap-confine and we could even keep the old package name lets sync up with zyga once he is around. [07:23] jdstrand: you are in a european timezone currently? === faenil_ is now known as faenil [07:25] mvo: I am [07:25] mvo: I just noticed that snap-confine didn't have the profile changes for ecryptfs: https://github.com/snapcore/snap-confine/pull/39. can you review/approve/merge? [07:26] mvo: oddly, I don't have commit access to snapcore/snap-confine [07:29] jdstrand: yeah, I can't merge either :/ [07:30] zyhalp ^ :) [07:30] err [07:30] zyga isn't here [07:31] mvo: oh, it merged. that's good enough [07:33] mvo: thanks! [07:36] thank you nhaines - and thanks to jdstrand of course! [07:37] * mvo hugs jdstrand once more [07:38] * jdstrand hugs mvo :) === faenil is now known as faenil_ === faenil_ is now known as faenil === hikiko is now known as hikiko|ln === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [10:12] hey guys, how can you distribute snap packages in a private environment...not making them public i mean? [10:16] caleress: a snap is just like a zip file really, you can sideload them on to devices with snap install [10:16] caleress: you can install the snap locally, just the file. I'm not sure if hosting your own repository is supported === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [10:27] how to copy directory to stage area ? [10:28] olli, i need help regarding snapcarft.yaml [10:29] anyone on ? === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [10:58] bull, you might want to post your snapcraft.yaml file somewhere so that someone can better help you [10:58] dpm_, i will [10:59] wait === hikiko|ln is now known as hikiko [11:00] http://pastebin.com/Gnjg9scp [11:00] dpm_, http://pastebin.com/Gnjg9scp [11:00] Mut is qml module dir which i want in opt/deskie/bin/ [11:02] bull, first of all, I think you need to remove the 'parts:' line on L19, as you've already specified it on L14 [11:03] when i do that and place glue under parts: it sys not allowed [11:04] hi all [11:04] hey oSoMoN o/ [11:04] i got it its working now thanks [11:04] ah, cool [11:05] I’m following the tour at http://snapcraft.io/create/, and when running the snap I created of hello, I get the following error: "failed to create user data directory. errmsg: Permission denied" [11:05] corresponding apparmor denial: [11:05] Jun 16 13:03:16 bribon kernel: [12818.389036] audit: type=1400 audit(1466074996.565:59): apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="/usr/bin/ubuntu-core-launcher" name="/home/.ecryptfs/osomon/.Private/" pid=5865 comm="ubuntu-core-lau" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000 [11:05] bull, I'm not sure if you can copy entire directories with the 'copy' plugin. I think you might need to specify the files to copy one by one, as such: http://askubuntu.com/a/739692/9781 [11:06] oSoMoN, seems like snaps are not working with an encrypted home dir? [11:06] dpm_, it is copying [11:06] oSoMoN, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1592696 [11:06] Launchpad bug 1592696 in ubuntu-core-launcher (Ubuntu) "snaps dont work with encrypted home: failed to create user data directory. errmsg: Permission denied" [Undecided,Fix released] [11:06] dpm_, that’s my wild guess without looking further, but it seems unlikely to me that no-one has ever run into this before me… [11:06] bug #359338 [11:06] bug 359338 in apparmor (Ubuntu Karmic) "apparmor paths are broken when using ecryptfs" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/359338 [11:06] aha [11:06] there you go :) [11:07] known issue then [11:07] dpm_, can i clean particular part build with snapcraft ? [11:07] make sure that you have all these rules in /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.ubuntu-core-launcher: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17392309/ [11:07] oSoMoN, check out the workaround https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1592696/comments/8 [11:07] then do: sudo apparmor_parser -r /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.ubuntu-core-launcher [11:07] (from jamie) [11:08] bull, I don't think you can clean parts separately, no. It's all or nothing, if I'm not mistaken [11:08] dpm_, it is saying The 'build' step of 'glue' is out of date. Please clean that part's 'build' step in order to rebuild when i tried to change path in copy plugin [11:09] dpm_, what this mean "Please clean that part's 'build' step in order to rebuild" [11:09] bull, I'd just do a 'snapcraft clean' [11:09] dpm_, that’s quite an extreme workaround, removing confinement :) [11:09] dpm_, man it will again download everything :( [11:10] bull, ah, wait, you can try something else [11:10] * dpm_ checks syntax [11:10] how ? [11:11] https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/build-apps/snapcraft-syntax/ did u mean these ??? [11:11] bull, you can try 'snapcraft clean --step build' [11:12] which will just clean the build but not re-fetch the stage packages and the code [11:12] thanks i 'll try [11:12] thanks a lot bro [11:12] lol, no worries :) [11:12] but if that gives you an error, it might be because you've changed the snapcraft.yaml between builds without cleaning [11:13] no errors, [11:15] great :) === dpm_ is now known as dpm [11:16] dpm, one more it build [11:17] but when i launch it it says : /snap/deskie/x1/bin/qt5-launch: 74: exec: deskie: Permission denied [11:18] bull, is your deskie file marked as executable? [11:18] dpm, any idea ?? [11:18] where ?? [11:19] what does the output of `ls -la /snap/deskie/x1/bin/deskie` say? [11:19] in prime directory ? yes it is [11:19] sorry, wrong dir [11:20] `ls -la /snap/bin/deskie` [11:20] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 554 Jun 16 16:47 /snap/bin/deskie [11:20] is it okay ??? [11:21] looks good from the permissions [11:21] what may be reason then :( [11:22] bull, I'm not sure what the issue could be, other than the launcher has trouble launching your executable. Perhaps you might want to upload your code somewhere (e.g. github) and others can help you better [11:22] here is the output of ls -ls of qt5-launcher -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2174 Jun 16 16:42 /snap/deskie/x1/bin/qt5-launch [11:23] is it okay ? [11:23] the launcher is fine [11:23] man i think am done with snap :/ [11:23] its pain [11:23] deskiw is close source app [11:24] deskie is not opensource [11:25] did you tried vlc's snap ?? it make the player useless [11:26] I think there is some level of pain with being an early adopter tbh, but we're working on ironing out the issues [11:27] dpm, what's your real name or email i wana contact you , [11:27] dpm, where do I report issues with the documentation? on snapcraft.io/create, the following sentence doesn’t sound right: « build/ where the build is append » [11:28] a asking this not just to seek help from you , i wana know everything about snapcarft cause i liked the concept , i am willing to make a gui to do all this easily [11:29] bull, https://launchpad.net/~dpm, but I think the best place to send an e-mail is the Snapcraft mailing list, where others can help you better -> you can find it at the bottom of http://snapcraft.io/ [11:29] oSoMoN, https://github.com/ubuntudesign/snapcraft.io/issues [11:29] cheers [11:29] thanks dpm [11:29] np ;) [11:29] :) [11:29] yw [11:30] damn , i know you [11:30] David Planella [11:30] :D [11:30] haha [11:30] so hi :) [11:30] lol [11:30] dpm :P [11:31] this is deskie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfbC9dIAo4c [11:31] mhall119, you there ?? [11:32] https://github.com/ubuntudesign/snapcraft.io/issues/19 [11:34] nice [11:34] just reload page [11:35] seb128, while you guys were working on the gtk launcher for snaps, did you ever come across this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/17394424/ [11:36] seb128, I see it on a qt5 app that uses gtk for theming, so I had to add the gsettings schemas building part, but it now fails to launch with that error [11:40] dpm, is that confined or in devmode? [11:40] confined yes, it's expected, dconf doesn't work there [11:40] seb128, it works in devmode, but not with confinement [11:40] argh [11:40] right, that's expected [11:40] seb128, so I guess no known workarounds? [11:41] I was going to try to look at that this afternoon [11:41] you can try to set XDG_RUNTIME_DIR to a directory that exists in the snap [11:41] e.g /tmp/dconf or something (with mkdir before) [11:42] seb128, can you help me with this : when i run a qt snapped app it says :-- /snap/deskie/x1/bin/qt5-launch: 74: exec: deskie: Permission denied [11:42] bull, no idea about that [11:43] is your wrapper +x? [11:43] idk [11:43] though it seems like it's the dir which has an issue [11:43] willcooke had somewhat similar issues earlier I think? [11:43] me ?? [11:43] seb128, u talking to me ? [11:44] seb128, thanks, I'll give that a try this evening, and I'll check in with you later if you were planning to look at it [11:44] * willcooke reads [11:46] willcooke, can you help me with this : when i run a qt snapped app it says :-- /snap/deskie/x1/bin/qt5-launch: 74: exec: deskie: Permission denied [11:49] bull, I have the same problem, not fixed it yet [11:49] willcooke, same here bro :( [11:49] willcooke, oh... heh. It appears I didn't push it, which is super odd. Not sure what happened, but it's up there now [11:49] I also cannot run any of my qt5-launch apps [11:49] snaps rather [11:50] damn :D [11:50] is this way snap will work ?? launcher for apps and i thinks it sucks this way :? [11:51] whats difference b/t deb with launcher to load your own libs ?? [11:52] and snap's launcher [11:54] @jamiebennett ok thanks [11:54] caleress: No such command! [11:54] well it has been working fine until this morning. The only thing that stands out to me is versioning scheme seems to have changed. /shrug to busy to muck about much today. [11:54] jamiebennett ok thanks [12:09] hey sgclark, what's the issue, are you getting the "qt5-launch: 74: exec: deskie: Permission denied" error too? [12:09] well s/deskie/yourapp/ [12:10] aa_change_onexec failed with -1. errmsg: No such file or directory [12:10] and various other no such file errors [12:10] and looking in the filesystem they are still there.. [12:11] qt5-launch and the wrapper seems to both be confused. dunno what possibly could have happened overnight. [12:12] dpm, you maintaining qt5-launcher ? [12:13] it seems after forking it I've inherited, yes :) [12:14] kyrofa: hi, i've been trying out your new snapcraft qmake plugin, i wondered if you had any ideas how i could solve a problem i have with using the option attribute [12:14] :D bro after clean --step build snapcraft stage not working [12:14] joc_, man you're on top of things! Yes please ask [12:15] i mean it runs fine but do not populate stage dir with what should be in stage dir [12:15] kyrofa: ;) comes from looking at the PR page of snapcraft regularly [12:15] Heh [12:15] kyrofa: here is my work in progress yaml: https://github.com/jocave/telegram-app-snap/blob/master/snapcraft.yaml [12:16] kyrofa: i copied your plugin to external but really i should just use your branch [12:16] dpm, bro after clean --step build snapcraft stage not working , ! i mean it runs fine but do not populate stage dir with what should be in stage dir [12:17] joc_, hmm... I added `options` to support arguments like -Wall etc. [12:18] bull, I'm not sure I can help with that one, sorry :/ [12:18] its okay , seems like its snap issue [12:18] kyrofa: it actually works as it is except for the $QT_INSTALL_HEADERS variable [12:18] joc_, what does that variable do? [12:18] kyrofa: i haven't managed to work out how to expand that [12:19] Yeah, snapcraft doesn't actually do variable expansion [12:20] the SNAPCRAFT_STAGE gets put in correctly but then i need to work out where the QT5 include dir is below that [12:20] joc_, indeed, SNAPCRAFT_STAGE is just something that snapcraft will replace for you [12:20] joc_, ah, you need to use a staged qt [12:21] Right? [12:21] Except I don't see anything staging qt [12:21] Or is that libqtelegram-ae? [12:21] kyrofa: well not qt particulary, more the headers from the libqtelegram-ae part [12:21] Ah [12:23] joc_, does it go into an architecture-dependent place? [12:23] joc_, or is it something you can safely hard-code? [12:23] kyrofa: yep, stage/usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/libqtelegram-ae/ [12:23] bull: I am now, what's up? [12:23] arch dependent [12:24] joc_, blech, you might be stuck on https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1576232 then [12:24] Launchpad bug 1576232 in Snapcraft "Doesn't allow dynamic file install targets ('usr/lib/$arch')" [Medium,Triaged] [12:25] joc_, can you modify the libqtelegram part to install into an architecture-independent path? [12:25] kyrofa: possibly, i'll have to look at the build configuration [12:26] joc_, because if you can do that, of course you can just hard-code the path using SNAPCRAFT_STAGE, right? [12:28] mhall119, am keshav , i was trying to snap deskie , i worked fine but when i launch app it says : /snap/deskie/x1/bin/qt5-launch: 74: exec: deskie: Permission denied [12:29] kyrofa: yeah that should work, i'll have a look at doing that, thanks [12:30] joc_, thanks for taking the plugin for a test drive! willcooke has pointed out that I'm missing some build environment variables, have you run into anything else missing? [12:31] kyrofa: yw, not that i've noticed so far, i'll let you know if i find anything [12:32] dholbach: dpm: fixed playpen CI for now, but I need to have a server to issue regular pings on docker hub [12:33] didrocks, what needs to be done there? [12:35] thanks didrocks [12:37] dpm, where i have to place libs in snapcraft ?? which i want put in snap for app runtime [12:38] under stage-packages or parts ?? [12:40] dholbach: we need to have a server where I can cronify a curl command to dockerhub every day [12:40] people.canonical.com doesn't allow that [12:40] bull, generally stage-packages if you use libraries from archive packages [12:41] thanks :) [12:41] dpm, you wana try deskie ? [12:41] on 16.04 ? [12:41] i will give you deb [12:42] bull, I generally use the default wallpaper, so I don't think I'm the best tester for a wallpaper changing app, but thanks in any case :) [12:42] you will love it ;p [12:44] didrocks, what does it do? [12:45] didrocks, I could run it from holba.ch if it's nothing too crazy [12:46] zyga: I made a PR [12:46] #38 [12:46] willcooke, where did you discover those qmake variables? I can't find any docs whatsoever on INCDIRS [12:47] dholbach, what is holba.ch ? [12:47] bull, my own server - nothing Ubuntu related [12:47] kyrofa, I copied them from popey ^^ [12:47] oh [12:48] popey, you have magical qmake knowledge-- share with me! [12:48] :D [12:49] zyga: sorry, #40 [12:49] willcooke, is it working now ?? [12:49] wat wat wat [12:49] 13:46 < kyrofa> willcooke, where did you discover those qmake variables? I can't find any docs whatsoever on INCDIRS [12:49] hahahahaha [12:49] I feel your pain [12:50] i had like a thousand tabs open one day and distilled them down into a few lines in my qmake plugin and they worked [12:50] there was much rejoicing that day [12:50] bull, nope, not had time to look yet [12:50] Hahahahaha [12:51] bull: make sure you chmod +x your deskie executable [12:51] dholbach: just issuing a curl command [12:51] to dockerhub [12:51] didrocks, can you PM it to me? [12:53] matteo: hey, thank you :) [12:53] matteo: I just got back from lunch, looking [12:54] it is already executable mhall119 [12:54] mhall119, willcooke having same issue , and one other was here also complaining about it [13:02] bull: check in /snap/deskie/current/ to make sure it's executable there [13:02] ok [13:02] if not, check in ./snap/ in your snapcraft build directory to see if it's executable there [13:03] if it's not, then I bet you ran chmod +x after the first run, and didn't clean the necessary steps/parts to get rid of the old file [13:03] * mhall119 made that same mistake with hello-unity [13:04] mhall119, i did this from scratch with snapcraft clean [13:06] mhall119, iwill provide output soon [13:09] sgclark, hey you're getting apparmor issues? [13:09] Does it look like this? https://github.com/kyrofa/nextcloud-snap/issues/1#issuecomment-226476228 [13:10] kyrofa: not exactly [13:10] sgclark, specifically the "aa_change_onexec failed with -1. errmsg: No such file or directory" stuff [13:11] and I cannot recreate to show you because I cannot not run any snaps at all as of this morning [13:11] Yikes, what's going on? [13:11] Did snapd just update?? [13:12] hello :) [13:12] davidcalle: good morning. Are you around? [13:13] j-b hi! I was thinking about finding a way to reach you this morning [13:13] sgclark, happy to help debug if you have some time to poke around. I'm going to update and see if the same thing happens to me [13:14] afraid I am booked atm [13:14] davidcalle: you are the one that made the vlc snappy, right? [13:14] j-b: indeed [13:14] davidcalle: you are currently my hero :) [13:16] j-b: hah :) [13:16] ;D [13:16] davidcalle: now the bad questions: [13:16] - will that run on 12.04? [13:16] - can I get access to DVDs? [13:17] - can I get access to the JVM? [13:17] - can I get access to v4l? [13:18] davidcalle, i installed vlc last night , and its all broken [13:18] j-b: maybe someone else in the channel will correct me, but I believe it will only run on 16.04 [13:18] bull: for now, try removing it and installing with the --devmode flag [13:19] not following system theming , not showing up in unity dash , no entry in nautilus menus , unable to run any file , ends up with permission denied issues [13:20] yeah you cant make it run on 12.04 j-b [13:20] davidcalle, indeed, 16.04 only [13:20] davidcalle, is the devmode working fine ?? [13:20] davidcalle: ok, what about the other? [13:20] kyrofa: anything you need from me, other than the stuff you have from my magic qmake plugin? [13:21] popey, no sir, thanks for the help! I'm actually going to pull the qmake source, haha [13:21] hi popey [13:21] i need help regarding qt5-launcher if it is done by you [13:22] j-b, you would shil the jvm inside your snap ... öyou would have to request an interface for DVD and v4l (i dont think we have either yet, but they can surely be added) [13:22] j-b: DVDs andv4l are things that will require snap interfaces, right now it works well only unconfined (eg. installed with --devmode). [13:22] my app deskie is qt based and not opening with your launcher its ending up with : /snap/deskie/x1/bin/qt5-launch: 74: exec: deskie: Permission denied [13:23] davidcalle: snap interface? [13:23] I have no idea what you mean, tbh :) [13:23] s/can/will/ [13:23] j-b, interfaces are how a snap can talk to the outside world [13:23] j-b they allow access your system [13:23] popey, you there ??? [13:23] they give the user control about what a snap is allowed to do and to access [13:23] ogra_: ok, so I need to code that interface? [13:23] j-b. eg. right now the vlc snap has "interfaces" that gives it access to audio, access to X11, access to the home dir [13:23] ok [13:24] j-b, either you or you file a bug and we do it [13:24] I need /dev/s** RO for DVD [13:24] j-b: interfaces live in snapd iteslf, and snaps require them (you declare what you need basically) [13:24] DVD and v4l are surely on the list of planned interfaces [13:24] and /dev/video* for webcams [13:24] until they exist you can simply install your snap with --devmode [13:24] that gives it full access [13:24] yeah, but I can't tell that to my users. [13:25] ogra_, [13:25] jdstrand: zyga: do you know how high on the todo list of interfaces these two are? ^ [13:25] ogre is my fav takken character:D [13:25] ooo there's a todo list of interfaces?? is the "setpriority" syscall included in one of them? wooot! [13:26] j-b: we have a flag that you can set to your snapcraft.yaml file to say "this snap only works in devmode for now" and will refuse to install if not specified [13:26] roadmr, not sure if zyga has such a list yet [13:26] (it's going to be enforced by the end user tools soon), then the experience in --devmode is the same that traditional .deb/rpm packages (unconfined) [13:26] ogra_: heh, it's my passive-aggressive way of saying "I'd like an interface that allows setpriority for my snap to work nicely" :D [13:26] didrocks: ok, but then it kind of defeats the idea :) [13:27] am getting this with my qt app launch can anyone help me ?? /snap/deskie/x1/bin/qt5-launch: 74: exec: deskie: Permission denied [13:27] davidcalle: the interface are defined in the .yaml? [13:27] sgclark, can I assume you're running kubuntu? [13:27] j-b: it's a transition plan ;) you still get a way to deliver latest and greatest to your users, cross-distro [13:28] didrocks: well, sure, but then I have other solutions to do that. [13:28] didrocks: but OK. [13:28] davidcalle, /snap/deskie/x1/bin/qt5-launch: 74: exec: deskie: Permission denied [13:28] davidcalle, my qt app is giving me this as output when i run it [13:29] am using the same qt launcher like vlc [13:29] j-b yes, see line 10 on https://github.com/ubuntu/snappy-playpen/blob/master/vlc/snapcraft.yaml it's the list of interfaces ('unity7' is a catch-all interface for desktop related authorisations) [13:29] plugs? [13:30] but where does it declare x11 and audio accesS? [13:31] j-b, this file is missing the pulseaudio one and x11 is part of the unity7 one. See https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/blob/master/docs/interfaces.md [13:31] and opengl [13:34] davidcalle: so we need new plugs for dvd and v4l? [13:34] kyrofa: nope I am in Neon for the lastest packages [13:34] sgclark, ah! So is the other person complaining about that. zyga ^^ [13:34] j-b: pretty much, yes, here is what the pulseaudio plug looks like: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/blob/master/interfaces/builtin/pulseaudio.go [13:34] in go? o_O [13:34] nice. [13:35] well we had a snap running in Arch, we best darned be able to use them in neon haha [13:35] sgclark, no kidding :P [13:35] Investigating now [13:36] ty1 [13:36] ! [13:37] davidcalle: do we get access to DBus? [13:40] j-b: I think we have some tailored dbus access allowed through the unity7 interface https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/blob/master/interfaces/builtin/unity7.go [13:41] davidcalle: all DBus interfaces? [13:41] heh [13:41] surely not [13:41] that would kind of defeat the purpose [13:41] (then you can simply also use --devmode) [13:42] So, how do we get DBus interfaces for us? Can we declare them in the yaml? [13:42] i would expect that you will eventually have different dbus interfaces for different purposes ... but surely not global access [13:43] I'm thinking of org.mpris.* [13:44] j-b: you might get that with the unity7 interface already [13:45] mhall119, doesnt look like that has mpris ... lbut i think it should [13:45] How do I get it? [13:45] bull in case no one answered (and dpm) `snapcraft clean glue` would of worked [13:45] smells like an oversight in the unity8 interface ... [13:45] File an issue somewhere? [13:45] j-b, file a bug [13:45] ah, nice, thanks sergiusens [13:45] on github? on snapd? [13:45] sigh ... who updated the channel topic and deleted the bug url [13:45] j-b: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy [13:45] ty sergiusens :) [13:45] mhall119, j-b, the mpris one doesn't seem in https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/blob/master/interfaces/builtin/unity7.go [13:46] ogra_: I agree that it should, mpris is an imporant part of unity7 integration [13:46] olli, can you fix the channel topic and add the links back ? [13:46] seb128: yes, that's what I fear. [13:46] as it powers the sound indicator controls [13:46] exactly [13:46] j-b, should be easy to get added [13:46] yeah [13:46] just file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy [13:47] though a stand-alone mpris interface might be desired too [13:47] well, you need some desktop part for it [13:47] Hello. I just compiled my first snap (cross compiled ubuntu/amd64 -> arm/rpi2)! I was able to upload the snap to "myapps", but it shows "0 byte". Is this OK? The snap itself is 1.8MB [13:48] JamesTait, perhaps you can help jsupcik with the store question? ^ [13:49] ogra_: you don't think it might be used in IoT stuff? [13:50] davidcalle: video interface was on zyga's list and I believe he started it. I think it was deprioritized for the moment for cross distro [13:50] mhall119, i tried build app after clean , still facing same issue [13:50] mhall119, dunno, would that make sense ? ... afaik mpris always needs some UI part [13:50] jsupcik, I did see a similar report a few days ago, but I'm not sure what came of it. What's the package? [13:50] bull: is your binary marked as executable in /snap/deskie/current/? [13:50] yes [13:50] ogra_: UI yes, but not necessarily GUI [13:50] well, true [13:51] when I run 'snap find' it fails as in https://paste.ubuntu.com/17396451/ saying i/o timeout, anyone knows what's wrong? I can go to the reported url in browser/wget [13:51] I'm thinking in-car infotainment or "smart" speakers [13:51] mhall119, it should definitely be part of unity7 and 8 though, since indicator-sound provides the UI ... [13:51] yes, I agree with that [13:51] a standalone one could happen later [13:51]