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guideXhello, does anyone know, is there a way for a potential business customer to buy ubuntu phones in bulk?00:02
popeyguideX: you'd have to ask the vendor.00:35
guideXah ok00:38
guideXdo you happen to know of any which sell in bulk?00:38
guideXI see bq sells them00:40
guideXhttps://www.bq.com/uk/smartphones00:40
popeyI think most phones are out of stock00:40
popeyBut you could certainly contact bq, they'd be a good place to start00:41
guideXpopey: what about, loading the os ourselves? I hear you can load ubuntu phone on multiple android devices00:41
guideXperhaps it's something like we would buy a lot of used android phones, and load ubuntu up00:41
guideXused/refurb00:42
guideXmight be an option for us00:42
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popeyguideX: that might work01:02
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ccexcuse me01:25
cchow can i use vpn on my ubuntu phone?01:25
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Walexcc: if you have a recent update, there is a VPN section in the settings and you configure it there.08:29
ccthanks08:30
ccbut how can i remove apps on my ubuntu phone?08:31
davmor2cc: same way as any other phone press an hold the app icon select uninstall08:33
ccno08:34
ccit cant08:34
cci use Meizu Pro 5 ubuntu08:35
davmor2cc: no really that is the way to uninstall an app, which app are you trying to uninstall?08:37
cc7digital,CINCO ELPAIS,Vimeo08:38
davmor2cc: those are scopes rather than apps and those scopes are actually online they take up no room on the system, you can just unstar them if you don't want to see them and in the settings for the music, news and video scope you can just click on the settings dialogue and remove them from the aggrigator08:41
ccdavmor2: thanks08:41
davmor2cc: think of the scopes as an rss aggrigator it goes to news site x and displays x number of articles it you turn off the url from the little cog on the scope you effectively remove it08:43
davmor2s/it/if08:43
ccbut i find i can't use wechat on it08:43
cc:(08:43
ccbad news08:43
ccand how can i connect it to my computer?08:44
davmor2cc: the usb lead that came with it08:45
ccand can i use ubuntu on my computer?08:46
davmor2cc: wechat should be installable via libertine in the new ota that is coming.  Don't forget this is still a young platform that improves on the whole with every update.08:48
ccyeah,i agree with it08:48
davmor2cc: goto ubuntu.com you can get the iso there for the desktop08:49
ccand also hope Alipay can be used08:49
ccubuntu.com?08:49
davmor2cc: never heard of alipay08:49
ccit08:50
ccit's just like paypal08:50
ccmost of people in china use it08:50
ccalmost08:50
davmor2cc: you asked if you can use ubuntu on computer08:50
cchmm08:51
davmor2cc: if it is website based like paypal you should be able to use it what want work would be contactless payments at a guess08:51
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ccit's a app08:52
cci have add qq mail in Dekko,but it didn't work08:52
davmor2cc: right which will also have a website so you could potentially make a webapp for it if there isn't one in the store08:53
ccdavmor2: where can i go to search?08:53
cccan you give me a web?08:54
davmor2cc: you have a phone already right so you can click on the store button on the apps scope, failing that you can look https://uappexplorer.com/08:55
ccyeah,thanks a lot08:55
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Guest84114hi11:55
dobeydavmor2: alipay is like the largest online payments system in china. i'm guessing the question was about using it for app purchases on the phone, perhaps12:42
bitanarchywill the fdroid apps be ported to ubuntu?13:13
dobeyyou'd have to ask the authors of those apps i guess?13:19
bitanarchydobey: can you run ordinary gnu apps on u-t? I suppose it supports x-windows etc?13:29
dobeybitanarchy: you can use libertine to run legacy x apps.13:31
dobeybut running them straight on the phone might not be the best experience13:32
bitanarchywhat do you mean with legacy x-apps... most apps are gnome or kde13:33
bitanarchywell i sometimes use the mobile browser in desktop mode.. it's not great but it can be ok13:34
bregmabitanarchy, most old desktop apps from previous decades are GTK or KDE13:34
bregmathat's what makes them legacy, they're from the olden days13:35
bregmaalso, we call them XApps now because some people don't like being called old-fashioned13:35
bregmathey keep coming at me with their bugg whips whenever I call them "legacy" apps13:36
bregma*buggy13:36
bregmaway to ruin the joke, bregma13:36
bitanarchyHow can i see whether I have the international version of meizu pro 5 in android?13:46
bitanarchythe firmware13:46
ogra_ask in an android channel ?13:49
ogra_(or on the xda forums)13:49
merpnderpIs there a high end android in the US that is 100% compatible with Ubuntu Touch?13:53
Blindherohi guys13:54
BlindheroI have a question about the ubuntu phone, is anyone here?13:54
ogra_merpnderp, nexus4 is the best you can get for the US i think ... there is a N5 community port thats working pretty good too13:55
bitanarchymerpnderp: the meizu pro 5 is the most hi-end android that can run u-t13:55
ogra_bitanarchy, not in the US13:55
bitanarchyotherwise there is nexus-5 port13:55
ogra_(if you want more than 2G/3G)13:55
merpnderpbitanarchy: yeah, I don't think the meizu can do US LTE.13:55
Blindherowould it be possible to use my computer to call someone over the ubuntu phone? connecting it in any way to the computer (wifi/bluetooth)13:55
merpnderpbitanarchy: is that the nexus 5x or is the 5 something different?13:57
bitanarchymerpnderp: nexus-5 accoreding to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices13:58
bitanarchynexus-5x is newer but different13:58
EdwardMorbiushello, ubuntu clock snap doesnt work with proprietary drivers? I installed LibreOffice snap and it works but clock fails to start. Clock started on my old laptop with open source Radeon drivers, on my new one with proprietary Nvidia drivers it wont.14:03
EdwardMorbiuslibGL error: No matching fbConfigs or visuals found14:05
EdwardMorbiuslibGL error: failed to load driver: swrast14:05
EdwardMorbiusUnrecognized OpenGL version14:05
EdwardMorbiusUnrecognized OpenGL version14:05
pstolowskipitti, hey, can you help with the flaky test in https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/979 and re-try it?14:17
ogra_EdwardMorbius, better ask in #snappy14:21
EdwardMorbiusogra_ I will try there14:27
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strixdioI'm trying to move to ubuntu touch as my daily driver on my nexus 4... The two things that are killing me: hangouts/google voice16:08
strixdioIs this something that really needs to be done by google?16:08
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dobeystrixdio: not sure what you're asking. hangouts should "work" on ota11 afaik16:31
dobeyassuming you're on stable channel. if on rc-proposed, should be working ok otherwise16:31
strixdioI installed with the multiboot app.16:31
dobeyunless you're talking about the text chat thing (google talk) which was subsumed into hangouts, rather than the actual hangouts video chat16:32
strixdioNo I mean hangouts video/audio16:32
dobeyshuld work16:32
strixdioit doesn't work. I used rc/ubuntu #3316:32
dobeyafaik16:32
strixdioUI was terrible and all16:32
dobeyogra_: used it on his m10 during the UOS week16:32
dobeywell, if google's UI is terrible, then yes, google has to fix that16:33
strixdioNo, I mean, it was the "desktop" version but "sliced in half", whereas the top half was the ui that basically did nothing, and bottom half was white.16:34
strixdioPerhaps I can take a snapshot soon.16:34
strixdio(@work)16:35
dobeyok16:42
dobeyyeah that part is just google being awful16:43
dobeyif you go straight into an existing hangout though, the video/voice works just fine (though you might need to go to settings and switch to front camera)16:43
strixdioMeh.16:44
strixdioAlso what's going on with the app store? Can there be apps that cost money?16:44
dobeyyes, there are paid apps16:45
strixdiodo they have to be open-source still?16:45
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dobeyno, there's no requirement that apps in the app store be open source, whether their price is 0.00 or >= 2.9916:45
strixdiobut <= 2.99 there is? lol16:46
dobeyno16:46
strixdioI understood the point but was being silly.16:46
strixdioThanks for the info.16:47
strixdioI'm really hoping ubuntu touch starts to "take off" soon.16:47
dobeythere is 2.99 USD minimum for paid apps, because of processing fees being costly16:47
strixdioOh I see.16:47
strixdioI'd love to develop for utouch16:47
dobeybecause unfortunately we aren't google yet16:47
dobeyhmm, i don't think google exposes a way to create a hangout, through public API16:48
s`dobey: you meant fortunately16:48
strixdios`: was thinking that too LOL16:48
strixdiodobey: Yeah, so we do have to wait for an official application?16:49
strixdiowhoops, minus the ?16:49
dobeystrixdio: i mean we don't have billions of users, and we don't have billions of dollars in cash sitting around, and we don't have our own credict card processing division16:49
dobeyerr, s` even16:50
s`dobey: i know what you meant, i was joking16:50
dobeystrixdio: well, no. it could probably be hacked around16:50
strixdiomeh16:50
dobeybut will take plenty of poking about16:50
dobeyeven more fun is when you tap the "video chat" button on hangouts.g.c, it opens a new tab in the phone browser, but it opens it in background.16:51
strixdioYeah that's too glitchy for me.16:53
strixdiounlesss......16:53
strixdioIs there maybe a method that works on ubuntu-touch that's NOT google, that can do sms, video chat?16:53
strixdio(not skype either)16:54
strixdioI know sms isn't exactly private, but I'm trying to keep as private yet compatible as possible.16:54
dobeymouseup:lbsD7e;16:55
dobeylol16:55
dobeygotta love google javascript obfuscation16:55
s`guys you are browsing hangouts.google.com via default browser?16:55
s`or an other url?16:56
strixdioyes.16:56
dobeyyes16:56
s`on meizu pro5 i havent even managed to start a chat window16:56
dobeystrixdio: well there's telegram for text chats. i guess you can do end-to-end encryption with it16:56
strixdioI do use telegram but very few people use it.16:57
strixdiomy wife even deleted it,lol.16:57
s`i tell u what i did16:57
s`i installed bitlbee and irssi inside a container16:57
s`the it lacks audio/video support16:57
dobeystrixdio: for video/voice chat, i guess any webrtc thing should work16:57
s`:P16:57
strixdiosucks that xmpp with "hangouts" doesn't do sms.16:57
dobeyi still don't quite understand what you mean about hangouts and sms16:58
strixdiohangouts/google voice16:58
strixdiosorry16:58
strixdiogoogle voice is integrated with hangouts.16:58
strixdioI can text people from my GV # from within hangouts.16:58
dobeyfrom the web site?16:59
strixdioYes.16:59
dobeyah ok16:59
strixdioMy goal was to have a phone number that I can use with voip and text, from the web, phone, etc..16:59
strixdioone that follows me regardless of phone, carrier, etc.17:00
dobeywell17:00
dobeyapparently it's possible to do google voice sms via api17:01
strixdiointeresting.17:01
strixdioTOo bad I literally know nothing about programming on linux or using others' api17:02
strixdio22 years of windows dev as a hobby... never had a need since my switch to linux.17:02
dobeybut would still require google to do stuff on their side, to be useful17:02
strixdioBut, I do want to learn, so that may be a good project to start17:02
dobeyie, push notifications17:02
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* mcphail is downloading the bq flash tool to put Ubuntu back on his device19:59
popeymcphail: wooot20:17
mcphailpopey: hopefully reversificating the android flash works...20:30
dobeymcphail: worked fine when i had to repartition a bq phone a couple years ago :)20:34
brunch875to be honest the only thing I miss about android are some games20:59
dobeyi miss device integration21:02
brunch875device integration as in what?21:08
dobeybrunch875: like fitness bands, headsets, etc with extended features, but the manfuacturers only have android/ios apps21:11
mcphailI really wish bluetooth would work with my car. Doesn't seem to be much progress there21:33
blndidiotHey, the libertine wiki page says that rc-proposed is required in order to install.. is that still the case since OTA11?  The footnote says the wiki page wasn't updated since before OTA11 released.21:56
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AmoebaI just installed ubuntu on my nexus 7 and enabled developer mode.  however, I am unable to access the device via adb, as it says the device is unauthorized.  Any idea on how to authorize my computer?23:48
Amoebareboot fixed it, nevermind23:51

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