[00:02] <guideX> hello, does anyone know, is there a way for a potential business customer to buy ubuntu phones in bulk?
[00:35] <popey> guideX: you'd have to ask the vendor.
[00:38] <guideX> ah ok
[00:38] <guideX> do you happen to know of any which sell in bulk?
[00:40] <guideX> I see bq sells them
[00:40] <guideX> https://www.bq.com/uk/smartphones
[00:40] <popey> I think most phones are out of stock
[00:41] <popey> But you could certainly contact bq, they'd be a good place to start
[00:41] <guideX> popey: what about, loading the os ourselves? I hear you can load ubuntu phone on multiple android devices
[00:41] <guideX> perhaps it's something like we would buy a lot of used android phones, and load ubuntu up
[00:42] <guideX> used/refurb
[00:42] <guideX> might be an option for us
[01:02] <popey> guideX: that might work
[01:25] <cc> excuse me
[01:25] <cc> how can i use vpn on my ubuntu phone?
[08:29] <Walex> cc: if you have a recent update, there is a VPN section in the settings and you configure it there.
[08:30] <cc> thanks
[08:31] <cc> but how can i remove apps on my ubuntu phone?
[08:33] <davmor2> cc: same way as any other phone press an hold the app icon select uninstall
[08:34] <cc> no
[08:34] <cc> it cant
[08:35] <cc> i use Meizu Pro 5 ubuntu
[08:37] <davmor2> cc: no really that is the way to uninstall an app, which app are you trying to uninstall?
[08:38] <cc> 7digital，CINCO ELPAIS,Vimeo
[08:41] <davmor2> cc: those are scopes rather than apps and those scopes are actually online they take up no room on the system, you can just unstar them if you don't want to see them and in the settings for the music, news and video scope you can just click on the settings dialogue and remove them from the aggrigator
[08:41] <cc> davmor2: thanks
[08:43] <davmor2> cc: think of the scopes as an rss aggrigator it goes to news site x and displays x number of articles it you turn off the url from the little cog on the scope you effectively remove it
[08:43] <davmor2> s/it/if
[08:43] <cc> but i find i can't use wechat on it
[08:43] <cc> :(
[08:43] <cc> bad news
[08:44] <cc> and how can i connect it to my computer?
[08:45] <davmor2> cc: the usb lead that came with it
[08:46] <cc> and can i use ubuntu on my computer?
[08:48] <davmor2> cc: wechat should be installable via libertine in the new ota that is coming.  Don't forget this is still a young platform that improves on the whole with every update.
[08:48] <cc> yeah,i agree with it
[08:49] <davmor2> cc: goto ubuntu.com you can get the iso there for the desktop
[08:49] <cc> and also hope Alipay can be used
[08:49] <cc> ubuntu.com?
[08:49] <davmor2> cc: never heard of alipay
[08:50] <cc> it
[08:50] <cc> it's just like paypal
[08:50] <cc> most of people in china use it
[08:50] <cc> almost
[08:50] <davmor2> cc: you asked if you can use ubuntu on computer
[08:51] <cc> hmm
[08:51] <davmor2> cc: if it is website based like paypal you should be able to use it what want work would be contactless payments at a guess
[08:52] <cc> it's a app
[08:52] <cc> i have add qq mail in Dekko,but it didn't work
[08:53] <davmor2> cc: right which will also have a website so you could potentially make a webapp for it if there isn't one in the store
[08:53] <cc> davmor2: where can i go to search?
[08:54] <cc> can you give me a web?
[08:55] <davmor2> cc: you have a phone already right so you can click on the store button on the apps scope, failing that you can look https://uappexplorer.com/
[08:55] <cc> yeah,thanks a lot
[11:55] <Guest84114> hi
[12:42] <dobey> davmor2: alipay is like the largest online payments system in china. i'm guessing the question was about using it for app purchases on the phone, perhaps
[13:13] <bitanarchy> will the fdroid apps be ported to ubuntu?
[13:19] <dobey> you'd have to ask the authors of those apps i guess?
[13:29] <bitanarchy> dobey: can you run ordinary gnu apps on u-t? I suppose it supports x-windows etc?
[13:31] <dobey> bitanarchy: you can use libertine to run legacy x apps.
[13:32] <dobey> but running them straight on the phone might not be the best experience
[13:33] <bitanarchy> what do you mean with legacy x-apps... most apps are gnome or kde
[13:34] <bitanarchy> well i sometimes use the mobile browser in desktop mode.. it's not great but it can be ok
[13:34] <bregma> bitanarchy, most old desktop apps from previous decades are GTK or KDE
[13:35] <bregma> that's what makes them legacy, they're from the olden days
[13:35] <bregma> also, we call them XApps now because some people don't like being called old-fashioned
[13:36] <bregma> they keep coming at me with their bugg whips whenever I call them "legacy" apps
[13:36] <bregma> *buggy
[13:36] <bregma> way to ruin the joke, bregma
[13:46] <bitanarchy> How can i see whether I have the international version of meizu pro 5 in android?
[13:46] <bitanarchy> the firmware
[13:49] <ogra_> ask in an android channel ?
[13:49] <ogra_> (or on the xda forums)
[13:53] <merpnderp> Is there a high end android in the US that is 100% compatible with Ubuntu Touch?
[13:54] <Blindhero> hi guys
[13:54] <Blindhero> I have a question about the ubuntu phone, is anyone here?
[13:55] <ogra_> merpnderp, nexus4 is the best you can get for the US i think ... there is a N5 community port thats working pretty good too
[13:55] <bitanarchy> merpnderp: the meizu pro 5 is the most hi-end android that can run u-t
[13:55] <ogra_> bitanarchy, not in the US
[13:55] <bitanarchy> otherwise there is nexus-5 port
[13:55] <ogra_> (if you want more than 2G/3G)
[13:55] <merpnderp> bitanarchy: yeah, I don't think the meizu can do US LTE.
[13:55] <Blindhero> would it be possible to use my computer to call someone over the ubuntu phone? connecting it in any way to the computer (wifi/bluetooth)
[13:57] <merpnderp> bitanarchy: is that the nexus 5x or is the 5 something different?
[13:58] <bitanarchy> merpnderp: nexus-5 accoreding to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[13:58] <bitanarchy> nexus-5x is newer but different
[14:03] <EdwardMorbius> hello, ubuntu clock snap doesnt work with proprietary drivers? I installed LibreOffice snap and it works but clock fails to start. Clock started on my old laptop with open source Radeon drivers, on my new one with proprietary Nvidia drivers it wont.
[14:05] <EdwardMorbius> libGL error: No matching fbConfigs or visuals found
[14:05] <EdwardMorbius> libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
[14:05] <EdwardMorbius> Unrecognized OpenGL version
[14:05] <EdwardMorbius> Unrecognized OpenGL version
[14:17] <pstolowski> pitti, hey, can you help with the flaky test in https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/979 and re-try it?
[14:21] <ogra_> EdwardMorbius, better ask in #snappy
[14:27] <EdwardMorbius> ogra_ I will try there
[16:08] <strixdio> I'm trying to move to ubuntu touch as my daily driver on my nexus 4... The two things that are killing me: hangouts/google voice
[16:08] <strixdio> Is this something that really needs to be done by google?
[16:31] <dobey> strixdio: not sure what you're asking. hangouts should "work" on ota11 afaik
[16:31] <dobey> assuming you're on stable channel. if on rc-proposed, should be working ok otherwise
[16:31] <strixdio> I installed with the multiboot app.
[16:32] <dobey> unless you're talking about the text chat thing (google talk) which was subsumed into hangouts, rather than the actual hangouts video chat
[16:32] <strixdio> No I mean hangouts video/audio
[16:32] <dobey> shuld work
[16:32] <strixdio> it doesn't work. I used rc/ubuntu #33
[16:32] <dobey> afaik
[16:32] <strixdio> UI was terrible and all
[16:32] <dobey> ogra_: used it on his m10 during the UOS week
[16:33] <dobey> well, if google's UI is terrible, then yes, google has to fix that
[16:34] <strixdio> No, I mean, it was the "desktop" version but "sliced in half", whereas the top half was the ui that basically did nothing, and bottom half was white.
[16:34] <strixdio> Perhaps I can take a snapshot soon.
[16:35] <strixdio> (@work)
[16:42] <dobey> ok
[16:43] <dobey> yeah that part is just google being awful
[16:43] <dobey> if you go straight into an existing hangout though, the video/voice works just fine (though you might need to go to settings and switch to front camera)
[16:44] <strixdio> Meh.
[16:44] <strixdio> Also what's going on with the app store? Can there be apps that cost money?
[16:45] <dobey> yes, there are paid apps
[16:45] <strixdio> do they have to be open-source still?
[16:45] <dobey> no, there's no requirement that apps in the app store be open source, whether their price is 0.00 or >= 2.99
[16:46] <strixdio> but <= 2.99 there is? lol
[16:46] <dobey> no
[16:46] <strixdio> I understood the point but was being silly.
[16:47] <strixdio> Thanks for the info.
[16:47] <strixdio> I'm really hoping ubuntu touch starts to "take off" soon.
[16:47] <dobey> there is 2.99 USD minimum for paid apps, because of processing fees being costly
[16:47] <strixdio> Oh I see.
[16:47] <strixdio> I'd love to develop for utouch
[16:47] <dobey> because unfortunately we aren't google yet
[16:48] <dobey> hmm, i don't think google exposes a way to create a hangout, through public API
[16:48] <s`> dobey: you meant fortunately
[16:48] <strixdio> s`: was thinking that too LOL
[16:49] <strixdio> dobey: Yeah, so we do have to wait for an official application?
[16:49] <strixdio> whoops, minus the ?
[16:49] <dobey> strixdio: i mean we don't have billions of users, and we don't have billions of dollars in cash sitting around, and we don't have our own credict card processing division
[16:50] <dobey> err, s` even
[16:50] <s`> dobey: i know what you meant, i was joking
[16:50] <dobey> strixdio: well, no. it could probably be hacked around
[16:50] <strixdio> meh
[16:50] <dobey> but will take plenty of poking about
[16:51] <dobey> even more fun is when you tap the "video chat" button on hangouts.g.c, it opens a new tab in the phone browser, but it opens it in background.
[16:53] <strixdio> Yeah that's too glitchy for me.
[16:53] <strixdio> unlesss......
[16:53] <strixdio> Is there maybe a method that works on ubuntu-touch that's NOT google, that can do sms, video chat?
[16:54] <strixdio> (not skype either)
[16:54] <strixdio> I know sms isn't exactly private, but I'm trying to keep as private yet compatible as possible.
[16:55] <dobey> mouseup:lbsD7e;
[16:55] <dobey> lol
[16:55] <dobey> gotta love google javascript obfuscation
[16:55] <s`> guys you are browsing hangouts.google.com via default browser?
[16:56] <s`> or an other url?
[16:56] <strixdio> yes.
[16:56] <dobey> yes
[16:56] <s`> on meizu pro5 i havent even managed to start a chat window
[16:56] <dobey> strixdio: well there's telegram for text chats. i guess you can do end-to-end encryption with it
[16:57] <strixdio> I do use telegram but very few people use it.
[16:57] <strixdio> my wife even deleted it,lol.
[16:57] <s`> i tell u what i did
[16:57] <s`> i installed bitlbee and irssi inside a container
[16:57] <s`> the it lacks audio/video support
[16:57] <dobey> strixdio: for video/voice chat, i guess any webrtc thing should work
[16:57] <s`> :P
[16:57] <strixdio> sucks that xmpp with "hangouts" doesn't do sms.
[16:58] <dobey> i still don't quite understand what you mean about hangouts and sms
[16:58] <strixdio> hangouts/google voice
[16:58] <strixdio> sorry
[16:58] <strixdio> google voice is integrated with hangouts.
[16:58] <strixdio> I can text people from my GV # from within hangouts.
[16:59] <dobey> from the web site?
[16:59] <strixdio> Yes.
[16:59] <dobey> ah ok
[16:59] <strixdio> My goal was to have a phone number that I can use with voip and text, from the web, phone, etc..
[17:00] <strixdio> one that follows me regardless of phone, carrier, etc.
[17:00] <dobey> well
[17:01] <dobey> apparently it's possible to do google voice sms via api
[17:01] <strixdio> interesting.
[17:02] <strixdio> TOo bad I literally know nothing about programming on linux or using others' api
[17:02] <strixdio> 22 years of windows dev as a hobby... never had a need since my switch to linux.
[17:02] <dobey> but would still require google to do stuff on their side, to be useful
[17:02] <strixdio> But, I do want to learn, so that may be a good project to start
[17:02] <dobey> ie, push notifications
[19:59]  * mcphail is downloading the bq flash tool to put Ubuntu back on his device
[20:17] <popey> mcphail: wooot
[20:30] <mcphail> popey: hopefully reversificating the android flash works...
[20:34] <dobey> mcphail: worked fine when i had to repartition a bq phone a couple years ago :)
[20:59] <brunch875> to be honest the only thing I miss about android are some games
[21:02] <dobey> i miss device integration
[21:08] <brunch875> device integration as in what?
[21:11] <dobey> brunch875: like fitness bands, headsets, etc with extended features, but the manfuacturers only have android/ios apps
[21:33] <mcphail> I really wish bluetooth would work with my car. Doesn't seem to be much progress there
[21:56] <blndidiot> Hey, the libertine wiki page says that rc-proposed is required in order to install.. is that still the case since OTA11?  The footnote says the wiki page wasn't updated since before OTA11 released.
[23:48] <Amoeba> I just installed ubuntu on my nexus 7 and enabled developer mode.  however, I am unable to access the device via adb, as it says the device is unauthorized.  Any idea on how to authorize my computer?
[23:51] <Amoeba> reboot fixed it, nevermind