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abhishek__hi02:50
abhishek__ I want to launch applications pinned on the icon manager via keyboard shortcut (Kubuntu 16.04, Kde plasma 5.6.4)02:50
Zrenabhishek__, Just bind them with a global shortcut?03:47
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KeikoHi guys, is there any possibility to make all windows transparent in Linux Mint?  desktop enironment, so my wallpaper shows trough all of my windows, i use Cinnamon ROSA04:07
krytarikKeiko: This is #kubuntu..04:10
Keikokrytarik: sry04:12
abhishek__Zren, how04:36
Zrenabhishek__, SystemSettings > Shortcuts > Edit > New > Command04:42
ZrenTrigger = Keybdinging, Action = command04:43
AleksejsHello, I have a serious problem and need your help! My PC does nothing when I try to login. I can login in shell (C-A-F1), but cannot login in plasma. It just doesn't do anything. It doesn't even show info about failed login or so05:50
hateballAleksejs: Is this a new install, upgrade, etc?05:50
hateballAleksejs: What has changed since it was last working?05:51
Aleksejsnothing, just installed upgrades05:51
Aleksejsinstallation is old05:51
Aleksejswhen I login into shell, I see warning cannot set locale en_LV.UTF-805:52
hateballAleksejs: Alright, let's check the usual suspects. When you login at tty1, check your user owns ~/.Xauthority05:52
Aleksejsmy user has 600 rights on it05:53
AleksejsI can login into plasma via guest user...05:54
Aleksejsany more ideas?05:57
hateballAleksejs: alright, check "find ~/ ! -user $USER"05:57
hateballAleksejs: see if any permissions are wonky05:57
Aleksejsshould it work for a long time?05:59
Aleksejsok, it gave response06:00
hateballwell it checks for files not owned by you. usually this is bad.06:01
Aleksejsit shows ~/.gnupg permission denied06:01
hateballAleksejs: well, that should be owned by your user but I don't think it would stop a logon06:02
AleksejsI forgot to mention, I have a fingerprint login/sudo, but it never actually worked on plasma login, but it always works on tty login and sudo06:03
Aleksejscan it affect?06:04
hateballI have no idea about fingerprint logins, but I am assuming it is just an extra pam module06:05
Aleksejs~/.gnupg is owned but root:root atm06:05
hateballSo you'd still be able to use username/password06:05
Aleksejshow about that locale warning?06:06
hateballAleksejs: You may need to regenerate locales. I'd also sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~/.gnupg06:07
Aleksejsit shows me lang lv_LV but it was en before06:10
Aleksejsok, I'll try to reboot now06:13
AleksejsI'm back, but it's still broken06:31
hateball:/06:32
hateballAleksejs: does anything get logged to ~/.xsession-errors after you try logging in?06:32
Aleksejsyes, there is a warning about locales and then gpg-agent post-stop killed, and that's all06:34
AleksejsI still see that warning each time I try to login via tty06:34
AleksejsI actually don't know why ubuntu decided to change my language to en_LV, I was always using en_US06:35
Aleksejsthe warning is "bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_LV.UTF-8)"  and it appears twice06:35
hateballAleksejs: do you have the en_LV local on your system?06:38
hateballAleksejs: if you run "locale", is it listed? If not, sudo locale-gen en_LV.UTF.806:40
hateballAleksejs: just to get that out of the way... then we can see if it helps you get a GUI and let you set en_US again06:40
hateballAleksejs: also, type on locale-gen, but you get it06:40
Aleksejsthere's no en_LV in that list06:40
hateballtypo*06:40
hateballgah06:40
Aleksejsit doesn't appear after locale-gen06:41
AleksejsI have no idea why ubuntu decided to use that locale06:42
Aleksejscan I just drop to en_US?06:42
hateballAleksejs: check what your ~/.config/plasma-localerc contains06:44
hateballIt should be your desired/existing locale06:45
hateballAleksejs: and what does "localectl status" return?06:47
Aleksejsthere's no plasma-localerc there. And localectl status returns LANG=en_US.UTF-8 and others are lv_LV.UTF-806:50
hateballhmmm.06:52
hateballwell it should fall back to an existing locale anyhow, but it is weird if you cant add a new one06:53
hateballAleksejs: find en_LV in /etc/locale.gen and uncomment it (if it is) then run sudo locale-gen again06:54
hateballhmmm, there is no en_LV06:54
hateballonly lv_LV06:54
Aleksejswell... there's no /etc/locale.gen06:54
hateballuh...06:55
Aleksejsif you mean /etc/locale.alias06:55
Aleksejsthen there's no en_LV line06:55
Aleksejsalso there's no lv_LV line :)06:56
hateballWell then I do not know06:57
hateballMy system has gone 14.04 -> 16.0406:57
anton_ptry reinstall 'locales'06:57
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Aleksejsstill no effect07:12
AleksejsI'm grepping for LC_ALL in my home folder because I have no any other idea :(07:12
AleksejsI googled how to fix that locale problem07:27
Aleksejsbut still cannot login07:28
Aleksejsis there anything else I can check?07:28
Aleksejswell.. I tried to purge and reinstall plasma, it didn't help. But I lost my settings and now KDE looks like some unity or other "friendly" shit07:38
AleksejsI guess I need another DE07:39
hateballsince you can log in as a different user it's hardly a DE problem07:41
hateballI've run out of ideas what it can be tho07:41
hateballbackup data, create new user?07:41
Aleksejsomg08:10
AleksejsI finally could log in08:10
Aleksejslost all configs and now KDE looks and feels like shit08:10
AleksejsI don't know if KDE developers are here but I wish you to know that I hate you very much08:11
Aleksejsit's not only visual08:11
memphisto:)08:11
makinen_:D08:11
AleksejsVPN doesn't save settings08:11
AleksejsI can't connect to my office VPN08:12
Aleksejsthanks to you guys I got an unpaid day off08:12
Aleksejsalso the panel is shit and cannot be configured08:12
memphistoas a workaround could you create another account and configure your VPN08:12
memphistoand then in free time fix the issue on the current account08:13
AleksejsIt doesn't save password for VPN08:13
Aleksejsit doesn't work without password08:13
Aleksejsso, no08:13
memphistocheck the  /etc/NetworkManager/VPN08:14
memphistothere should be passwords for network manager if you use it08:14
Aleksejsthere's nothing about my connection08:15
Aleksejsprobably this info is stored elsewhere08:15
memphistowhere you using network manager or something else to connect to vpn08:16
memphistokvpnc08:16
Aleksejsalso, auto hide "feature" for panel cannot be turned off and it annoys very much :)08:16
memphistoor something else08:16
AleksejsI usually connect either via nmcli or just by clicking on VPN in network menu08:17
memphistoso its Network manager08:17
memphistoconfiguration should be there08:17
acheronuka recall a few perhaps related VPN bugs in networkmanager/qt08:18
memphistohere should be your connection /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections08:19
memphistocould you check08:19
acheronukLP: 156967408:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1569674 in networkmanager-qt (Ubuntu Xenial) "[Kubuntu] Fail to connect to wifi after a recent update" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/156967408:19
Aleksejsalso once I enter panel settings I can't quit, and panel becomes unusable08:19
Aleksejsmemphisto: there's no password08:20
hateballAleksejs: Plasma 5.5 is very buggy, you could try using kubuntu backports08:21
hateballaltho it is a PPA and not supported etc...08:21
* hateball uses it on all his machines08:21
Aleksejshateball: funny thing is that I haven't installed 5.508:22
Aleksejsall worked good till this morning08:22
hateballAleksejs: So you are not on 16.04?08:24
Aleksejshateball: not yet08:30
Aleksejsok, I could add a VPN on my windows PC :D08:30
Aleksejsatm windows is better than KDE :D08:30
Aleksejsis it possible to roll back plasma version?08:31
hateballAleksejs: So what version are you on? 14.04 ?08:31
hateballThat would explain you not having config files in ~/.config, in 14.04 most of that stuff is in ~/.kde08:32
hateballThe locale configs etc08:32
Aleksejshateball: yes, 14.0408:34
Aleksejsmore bugs with network manager: I add a wifi password, then I logout/login, and wifi password is lost08:35
Aleksejsdo-release-upgrade shows that no new releases found08:37
hateball!ltsupgrade | Aleksejs08:37
ubottuAleksejs: Users of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st.08:37
Aleksejsalso all my bluetooth devices doesn't work etc. I need to roll back08:41
memphisto1Aleksejs, when go to /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections youll see your connections and VPN connections too.08:42
memphisto1do the cat of your VPN connection08:42
memphisto1and there is a section08:42
memphisto1[vpn-secrets]08:43
memphisto1there you'll find you password08:43
Aleksejsthere's no vpn-secrets08:44
memphisto1can you please share the ll /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections08:45
Aleksejsthere is a file with my VPN, there are all settings (domain, login etc), but no password. I added [vpn-secrets] and one more line: password=mypassword, didn't help08:46
memphisto1[vpn-secrets]IPSec secret=XXXXXXXXXauth password=XXXXXXXXX08:47
memphisto1those sections depend of type of the VPN connection08:47
AleksejsI think the problem is with permissions08:48
memphisto1it should be root:root08:49
AleksejsI noticed one thing: connection to VPN via nmcli doesn't work without sudo anymore but it worked before. It shows a permission error. Probably, network manager also doesn't have permissions to edit those files08:50
Aleksejsno, it's not08:52
AleksejsI created a new VPN connection with some random settings, I made sure I choose to store a password, and then I checked a new file - no password line, no vpn-secrets section08:53
AleksejsIt must be a bug with network manager08:53
memphisto1that's to many bugs on your PC08:53
Aleksejsthere were none till this morning "update"08:54
Aleksejsthat's why I want to rollback but I don't think it's possible08:54
acheronukwhat updates installed?08:57
lordievaderGood morning.09:11
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BluesKajHi all12:21
SmurphyMorning12:28
BluesKajhey12:33
AleksejsHi, it's me again. I ran apt-get upgrade and then apt-get install plasma-desktop, and all my problems magically disappeared, except one12:46
AleksejsMy bluetooth headphones are visible in BT manager but I cannot choose them as playback device in audio settings12:46
hateballAleksejs: This is still on 14.04?12:47
Aleksejsyes12:47
Aleksejsin device preference settings my headphones are inactive and I can't make them as playback device12:49
BluesKajAleksejs:  check alsamixer and make sure they aren't muted12:50
hazamonzoHey gents. Anyone have any issues with kubuntu being a bit sluggish. Im thinking it *could* be graphics driver related12:50
hateballhazamonzo: Describe your problem in detail12:51
AleksejsBluesKaj: it's not even there12:53
BluesKajoh sorry that's true about 14.0412:56
BluesKajcheck your line ctl then Aleksejs12:56
BluesKajhazamonzo:  there's a problem with FF and adblock using a lot of resources, just discovered that yesterday on Xenial13:00
BluesKajI dumped adblock, it was the culprit13:01
hazamonzoBluesKaj: Interesting. Im using AD with Chrome13:02
hateballyes well, is your system "sluggish" even when not running Chrome?13:02
BluesKajI'm willing to put up with a few ads for the sake of memory and cpu headroom13:02
hazamonzohateball: Its a case of switching windows, , expanding windows ect13:02
hateballAlso µBlock is very resource friendly13:02
hazamonzoAlso i will get little freezes when switching windows that can last a couple of seconds13:03
hateballhazamonzo: you can toggle desktop effects with alt+shift+f12 to see if that is the issue13:03
hateballhazamonzo: what manner of GPU/driver do you have? "lspci -k", look for the VGA stuff13:03
BluesKajI'd use cherome except that the addressbar fonts are too small to read on a large monitor/tv13:04
hazamonzohateball: Looks like switching off desktop effects has already had an improvement on UI's in Chrome13:04
hazamonzo00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)13:05
hazamonzo01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK106GLM [Quadro K2100M] (rev a1)13:05
hazamonzoIm worried about messing ith the default graphics driver for this laptop after the pain I had on a previous installation of Kubuntu and issues with the "card switching"?13:05
BluesKajoh a hybrid gpu system13:06
hazamonzoBluesKaj: Oh yes.... :)13:06
hazamonzoIm surprised you forgot with all the issues I've had with this laptop in the past and asked for help in here! :D13:06
hateballhazamonzo: have you tried the driver from PPA?13:07
hateballto enable nvidia card13:07
hazamonzohateball: On a previous installation I have but not this one13:07
hateball"sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update && sudo apt install nvidia-367", reboot, go into nvidia-settings and pick desired card. if everything goes as expected :p13:07
hazamonzoI was just happy that the UI loaded13:07
hateballbut hybrid GPU is unfun stuff, so one cannot be too sure13:08
hazamonzohateball: Risky!. I like it!13:08
hateballhazamonzo: if it fails, you can just purge nvidia-36713:08
hazamonzohateball: I'll take a look after I finish working tonight. Can't destroy my machine today with my deadlines :)13:08
hateballhazamonzo: Good luck :)13:08
BluesKajyeah , best not to fool with a system that works13:09
hazamonzohateball: Haha thanks!13:09
hazamonzoBut the desktop effects thing has certainly helped a lot already!13:09
hazamonzoThank you13:09
hazamonzoAlthough I do miss wobbly windows from my old desktop days.... :)13:10
hateballwell it just means you're using the intel card which is too weak to handle it13:10
hateballand since you have an nvidia card in there it would be good to get it working13:10
hateballthat said, I have an even older intel gpu in this machine, and there's no problems using desktop effects that I can tell13:11
hateballoh well !13:11
* Smurphy has to say that in general, the Intel Chipset GPU is way better for Desktop work-stuff than the NVidia.13:25
SmurphyI tend to disable all the Fast graphic controllers (Ati and NVidia if I have a hybrid system).13:26
SmurphyAnd if I can do that in the BIOS/EFI - in there.13:26
BluesKajsome prefer the higher graphics mode be it nvidia or amd, despite the short battery life13:32
Smurphyhigher graphics mode ? For what ?13:36
SmurphyWhen playing a game, I can understand it.13:36
SmurphyBut for everything else, it's just a waste of energy.13:36
BluesKajwell I made sure there no hybrid graphics in the laptop I bought a few yrs ago, just for the reason they are a pita on linux14:01
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SmurphySame here.16:01
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L0cutushello17:41
BluesKajhi L0cutus17:47
L0cutusmmm unable to install (from USB) latest kubuntu :-/17:53
zamazan4ikwhat is problem?17:54
zamazan4ikand, i'm sorry, but i have one stupid question17:55
zamazan4iki use Konversation as IRC client17:55
zamazan4ikand what does it mean red text?17:55
L0cutus"Plasma closed unexpectedly"17:57
Dragnslcrzamazan4ik- red text where? In a channel tab?17:57
L0cutushttps://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxWihqBNY_N3RFMwQXJjSnNWVDA18:00
zamazan4ikDragnslcr. You wrote to me, and i see your message in red color)18:01
BluesKajzamazan4ik:  it's highlighted in red to get your attention ;-)18:15
zamazan4ikok, Can i fast insert nickname of any user(your nickname, for example)?18:16
zamazan4ikBluesKaj, or i should type manual every nickname?18:17
BluesKajzamazan4ik:  type the first 3 letters of ausers nick then the auto-completion with the tab key18:18
BluesKaj3  letters or so18:18
BluesKajzamazan4ik:  for example I just typed za and hit the tab key and autocomplete took over and finished typing your nick18:21
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sick_rimmitHi Friends18:31
sick_rimmitIt's Kubuntu Party 4 in 30 minutes18:31
sick_rimmitEveryone is welcome, checkout the website kubuntu.org for details18:31
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fuzekubuntu 16.04 kde 5.5.5 and plasma crashes every 10 minutes https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/FdbNgR1M/plasmashell-20160614-231603.kcrash.txt21:22
bpromptdunno on kde 5.5.5, but mine is 4.14.1621:25
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