[00:37] <cc> hello
[00:37] <cc> i send a PDF in my ubuntu phone,then how can i open it in my phone?
[00:37] <cc> i can find it
[00:38] <cc> i cant find it
[01:27] <strixdio> Hey guys, I've been looking to replace google voice, specifically texting and voip, and I'm trying to be a bit more privacy-minded. I don't really see anything other than *maybe* skype that could be a replacement, specifically compatible with ubuntu-touch. Have I maybe missed something?
[01:27] <strixdio> (note: I'd rather not use skype due to M$)
[02:07] <dobey> cc: install the Doc Viewer app, and it should find it if you put it in your Documents or Downlaods folder I think. or install the File Manager app from the store, and you can browse to it and open it in Doc Viewer from there
[02:07] <dobey> strixdio: i think you missed the part where you said "privacy minded" if you're considering skype :)
[02:14] <strixdio> dobey: oh no, I'm not considering it. I only mentioned it because it was the only "worthy" alternative as far as capability.
[02:16] <dobey> well, i don't know what random services exist that would fulfill your needs there, or what your needs necessarily are, but as far as video/voice chat goes, any webrtc based platform should work with the browser on the phone; assuming said platform doesn't break the world with awful user-agent checking or just bad design that doesn't work on mobile devices
[02:36] <cc> dobey: it's ok now,thanks a lot
[02:37] <cc> i use  Document viewer
[02:39] <cc> hmm,ubuntu phone seems not bad
[03:34] <cc> I see online video, phone Ubuntu can be connected to the computer, and then the computer can operate on the Ubuntu system, but how to operate? Is the need to download any software?
[05:13] <cc> how to insall .apk ?
[05:14] <cc> in ubuntu phone
[05:39] <nhaines> cc: you can't.  .apk files are Android packages.  You'll need to find an Android phone.
[05:45] <cc> i need to use wechat on my ubuntu phone....
[05:48] <nhaines> cc: if there is no web interface, then you can't.
[05:52] <cc> bad news
[09:09] <faenil> where is the setting to Allow USB debugging? (adb, basically)
[09:10] <ogra_> under "about this device"
[09:12] <faenil> ogra_: not developer mode, the security permission
[09:13] <faenil> "Allow usb debugging from XX:XX:XX:XX"
[09:13] <ogra_> i dont think there is anything special
[09:13] <ogra_> do you want to revoke it ?
[09:13] <faenil> no, I want to *allow it*
[09:13] <faenil> and it seems whoever connected this device first revoked it
[09:13] <ogra_> it pops up when you connect the device
[09:14] <faenil> it doesn't at the moment
[09:14] <ogra_> make sure it is unlocked though
[09:14] <faenil> but adb devices reports "unauthorized"
[09:14] <ogra_> ondra, ^^^ your bug then :)
[09:14] <ogra_> faenil, did you try running the adb server under sudo on the PC ?
[09:15] <ogra_> probably just a local permission issue
[09:15] <ogra_> (or missing udev rule)
[09:15] <faenil> that's never been needed, but I'll try
[09:16] <faenil> nothing ogra_
[09:17] <ogra_> well, was worth a try
[09:17] <faenil> yeah :)
[09:18] <faenil> so, if one revokes the adb permission the first time then there's no way to change it back? :D
[09:18] <faenil> at least not from UI it seems
[09:19] <ogra_> seemingly ... ondra would know i guess ... i think he implemented that
[09:25] <faenil> updating from r116 to r124 now, let's see if that makes a diff
[09:27] <faenil> worked now ogra_ ondra, I got the popup after rebooting...must have been a bug :/
[11:02] <ondra> faenil reading
[11:02] <ondra> ogra_ faenil no issue is on device side, if you can see device as unauthorised then your udev permission on host are fine
[11:03] <ogra_> yeah, obviously
[11:03] <ogra_> i think we should also have a UI to revoke permissions
[11:03] <ondra> faenil what channel is this? I tested devel yesterday and that was broken in many ways there
[11:03] <ondra> ogra_ yeah we should, but find somebody to implement it :)
[11:04] <ogra_> well, you got a big team of phone developers, i'm sure someone will be found :P
[11:04] <ondra> ogra_ it's as simple as deleting one file, if we accept you can only revoke all
[11:04] <ondra> ogra_ :P
[11:05] <ondra> ogra_ and to be fair, probably about 2h job including QA if you know where to touch it
[11:05] <ogra_> yeah
[12:24] <faenil> ondra: rc-proposed r116, then I updated to r124 (and that implies a reboot) and the popup appeared...so I don't know
[12:24] <faenil> ondra: M10 ^
[12:48] <htr_> anyone can help me to install ubuntu touch on my sony xperia m dual
[13:26] <ondra> faenil there could be two reasons, either adbd crashed, but then you will see it as offline not as unauthorised, next component is adb indicator not responding to adbd talking to it over the socket
[13:26] <ondra> faenil so if you can find any logs or crashes related to indicator I guess
[13:28] <faenil> ondra: ok, I'll have a quick look
[13:29] <faenil> application-click-owncloud-sync_Owncloud-Sync_0.1.5.log
[13:29] <faenil> phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ cat .cache/upstart/android-usb-state.log
[13:29] <faenil> initctl: Event failed
[13:30] <faenil> ondra: no crashes
[13:31] <ondra> faenil hmm, yeah hard to say now
[13:31] <faenil> yeah
[13:38] <dobey> mardy: hey, since sqlite apparently can't show the data stored for the token, is there any easy way i can visualize what's actually there, without having to write a bunch of qt c++ code?
[13:39] <ogra_> hmpf ... seems the thumbnailer is screwed up in rc-proposed today
[13:39] <ogra_> (or the gallery ... i only get placeholder icons in the gallery)
[13:40] <dobey> ogra_: ooh. check the gallery-app log in .cache/upstart/ and see if it's complaining about apparmor denials
[13:41] <ogra_> i can see the images fine if i tap them btw
[13:42] <ogra_> funny ... no gallery logs in there
[13:46] <mpt> jgdx, tvoss: I updated the Fingerprint ID design. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings?action=diff&rev2=80&rev1=79>
[13:48] <dobey> ogra_: that's the same behavior we've had on nexus 5 and opo for a long time.
[13:50] <ogra_> well, it definitely worked last week
[13:50] <ogra_> and this is a retail device
[13:50] <dobey> yeah i know it's a retail device.
[13:51] <ogra_> jibel, davmor2 ^^^ is that known ?
[13:51] <dobey> ogra_: you don't have a .cache/upstart/application-click-com.ubuntu.gallery_gallery_2.9.1.1317.log file?
[13:51] <ogra_> dobey, nops
[13:51] <dobey> weird
[13:51] <ogra_> ls -l .cache/upstart/*gallery* returns "file not found" ... and a find seraching with -name does the same
[13:51] <dobey> ogra_: 2.9.1.1322 instead?
[13:52] <dobey> weird
[13:52] <dobey> i see there is a gallery app update
[13:52] <ogra_> sadly i cant currently access the device remote
[13:52]  * ogra_ checks updates
[13:52] <ogra_> ha !
[13:52] <ogra_> and chatter too :)
[13:52] <dobey> hmm
[13:53] <mardy> dobey: I'm afraid not :-(
[13:53] <dobey> ogra_: thumbnails work on my nexus4 with latest rc-proposed (just updated an hour ago), and 1317 gallery app. weird
[13:54] <ogra_> nope, still black placeholder images
[13:54] <dobey> mardy: can you review https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-credentials/signon-plugin-part2/+merge/296716 please? let me know if i did anything obviously stupid (aside from removing the UI responses, i'm aware i might need to add that back)
[13:55] <dobey> or at least, maybe partially
[13:55] <mardy> dobey: OK. Did you already try it?
[13:55]  * ogra_ reboots phone ... lets see 
[13:55] <dobey> mardy: yeah, i'm able to log in from system settings, and the token appears to be stored. i got a push notification this morning for the system update too, so that's good :)
[13:56] <mardy> dobey: excellent!
[13:56] <dobey> mardy: i'm trying to test it more now on staging. i think there might be some rough spots still, but trying to work out what all they might be
[13:56] <ogra_> reboot fixed it
[13:56] <dobey> ogra_: bah. lucky you
[13:57] <dobey> crushed my hopes
[14:11] <mardy> dobey: reviewed
[14:16] <dobey> mardy: that was quick. replied inline as well.
[14:53] <Eadrom381|X250> http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_3-7995.php
[14:53] <Eadrom381|X250> we know if this is going to support 4G LTE speeds in the US?
[14:53] <Eadrom381|X250> w/ UT
[14:53] <Eadrom381|X250> when support for UT on that device launches
[14:56] <dobey> Eadrom381|X250: the version which has the US bands should work, yes
[14:57] <dobey> Eadrom381|X250: https://oneplus.net/3/specs suggests there are three different models. if you want US support, you need the North America model
[14:58] <Eadrom381|X250> dobey, niiiiiiiiiiice.  This could be the phone that's nice enough that I can ditch my iphone and forget apple exists.  I wish it had more storage or an SD card slot, but the rest of those specs are really, really nice
[14:58] <dobey> Eadrom381|X250: i've been using ubuntu pretty much exclusiviely for 2 years on a nexus 5, fwiw
[14:59] <Eadrom381|X250> dobey, I have it on a nexus 4 I bought to test out the platform and it's worked quite nicely there.  now I'm waiting for a flagship spec'ed phone that I can get UT on
[15:00] <Eadrom381|X250> and I can def make 64GB work for me :P
[15:00] <dobey> Eadrom381|X250: i'm sure you could plug in an SD card or anything else using the usb otg :)
[15:00] <dobey> Eadrom381|X250: well, the nexus 5 was a "flagship phone" 2 years ago when i got it :)
[15:00] <Eadrom381|X250> dobey, but where will I plug in my dock for #convergence? :P
[15:00] <Eadrom381|X250> but good point
[15:01] <Eadrom381|X250> I'll be waiting for one plus 3 UT development news with bated breath :)
[15:02] <dobey> Eadrom381|X250: i'm not sure the 3 supports MHL/SlimPort, so you'll have to use aethercast anyway. and just get a dock that's a hub and charges the phone at the same time, so you can plug in storage and whatever else too
[15:02] <dobey> Eadrom381|X250: the fact that the usb port is not usb 3 though, on the op3, is a bit disappointing
[15:02] <dobey> also, it's another bloody huge phone :(
[15:02] <dobey> and not black
[15:03] <Eadrom381|X250> convergence means less to me.  I have an ultrabook I take with me most places so convergence is just a toy feature
[15:03] <Eadrom381|X250> I have an iphone 6S+ right now
[15:03] <Eadrom381|X250> do not mind me a 5" screen phone :D
[15:04] <dobey> well, not like you can play steam games on it either, since it is still an ARM device, not a core i7
[15:06] <dobey> eh. nexus 5 is too big still
[15:09] <Eadrom381|X250> I game very little on my phone these days.
[15:09] <Eadrom381|X250> like almost not at all
[15:11] <dobey> yeah, i don't game on my phone at all really
[15:11] <dobey> just trivial things to pass time when i'm waiting for my wings at bw3
[15:12] <Eadrom381|X250> I use mine currently for mostly imgur, web browsing, email, online banking, social media, and telegram
[15:13] <Eadrom381|X250> oh and listening to music and podcasts
[15:13] <Eadrom381|X250> I'm excited to see what other fun things I can do once I have much lower level access to my phone
[15:16] <dobey> i mostly use mine for untappd, and reading twitter
[15:18] <dobey> but hopefully will be able to do a lot more soon
[15:18] <dobey> and that person left anyway
[15:22] <Jarlath> dobey: :)
[15:24] <dobey> wish someone would make a 4.3-4.5" "flagship" phone
[15:29] <rvr> ogra_: Do you know whether something has been done to enable serial devices in Ubuntu Touch?
[15:33] <dobey> rvr: i don't think the kernel config has been changed. i guess there's probably a bug filed about usb serial adapters not working?
[15:34] <rvr> dobey: Do you know the related launchpad project?
[15:34] <dobey> i guess bluetooth serial adapters should theoretically work, but there's currently no way to pair them
[15:34] <dobey> rvr: canonical-devices-system-image ?
[15:35] <dobey> rvr: i don't know if there is a lp project for wherever the kernel config is stored for the phablet tree
[15:36] <dobey> i guess that might be a question for john-mcaleely
[15:37] <john-mcaleely> what's the question?
[15:38] <rvr> john-mcaleely: To plug Arduinos to Ubuntu Touch, USB serial devices support is required in the kernel
[15:38] <john-mcaleely> well, for every device, the kernel is unique
[15:38] <john-mcaleely> the configs on phablet.ubuntu.com are a guide, and used for the nexus'
[15:38] <john-mcaleely> the OEM's mostly keep kernels on github
[15:39] <john-mcaleely> so, what device are you seeing this on? any? all?
[15:39] <john-mcaleely> rvr, ^
[15:39] <rvr> john-mcaleely: I tried on the tablet
[15:39] <rvr> john-mcaleely: But I'm sure it's the same in all devices
[15:40] <john-mcaleely> rvr, here's the tablet kernel: https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/avila/+git/kernel-3.10
[15:40] <john-mcaleely> (assuming you mean M10)
[15:40] <rvr> We talked about this with ogra_ and Jamie a month ago or so
[15:41] <john-mcaleely> if you want something to change, raise a bug in canonical-devices-system-image
[15:41] <rvr> I'll do that
[15:43] <dobey> yes, it's the same on all devices
[15:44] <dobey> anyway, must get food
[15:45] <eadrom> dobey, I'm still here :)
[16:45] <dobey> eadrom: oh
[20:44] <mcphail> Does anyone have a link for the "papercuts" project for touch?
[21:01] <dobey> mcphail: https://bugs.launchpad.net/band-aids-uphone
[21:22] <mcphail> dobey: thanks
[22:42] <adr41n> Hi, newbie here, can I dual boot my Nexus 7 with Android and Ubuntu Touch?
[23:06] <dobey> adr41n: no official dual boot support, but you might be able to use MultiROM on a flo to dual boot
[23:11] <adr41n> thanks dobey