[05:44] <thatgraemeguy> mornings
[06:06] <theblazehen> morning all
[06:06] <theblazehen> squish102: What's the cpu load like? Fan running?
[06:07] <theblazehen> I've idled at ~70 with a pentium E2220 or something with the fan stopped
[06:41] <Kilos> morning all
[06:52] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[08:13] <inetpro> good mornings
[08:15] <theblazehen> hi inetpro
[08:16] <Kilos> hi inetpro theblazehen 
[08:16] <theblazehen> hi Kilos
[08:19] <theblazehen> Anyone else forget what the command is they need to run, so they just look away from keyboard and display and type from muscle memory?
[08:21] <gremble> When that happens I default to "sudo pacman -Syu" so I try not to
[08:23] <chesedo> lol, morning all
[08:24] <gremble> Cheers. Time to go write calculus
[08:24] <theblazehen> hey chesedo
[08:24] <theblazehen> cheers gremble
[08:24] <theblazehen> repeatedly typing ls also helps me concentrate
[08:33] <chesedo> oh, all of the best with that gremble
[09:21] <inetpro> theblazehen: it irritates me that I do this but pressing ENTER, ENTER and ls -la helps me to remember what I wanted to do
[09:22] <inetpro> not always, but often
[09:23] <theblazehen> inetpro: Glad I'm not alone then :)
[09:24]  * Kilos keeps quiet
[09:25] <paddatrapper> I do exactly the same. ls is stuck in my muscle memory 
[09:25] <chesedo> I would normally use '<ctrl> + r' to search the history if i can remember part of the command
[09:26] <Kilos> lol
[09:26] <Kilos> i ask the pro or you guys what i must use
[09:27] <chesedo> Kilos: now you know what we do behind the scene to help you :D
[09:27] <Kilos> hahahaha
[09:27] <Kilos> ty
[09:28] <chesedo> ... so just ignore the start of our help if it starts with 'ls'
[09:28] <Kilos> and here i was thinking you guys have wonderful memories
[09:30] <theblazehen> Kilos: Heh. We have a small cache (brain), then main memory is ^R, and disk is google
[09:30] <Kilos> hahaha
[09:31] <chesedo> lol
[09:31] <chesedo> theblazehen: you saying my brain is volatile :P
[09:32] <theblazehen> chesedo: Well when you're powered off (Not suspend), you *do* lose all the data in your brain..
[09:34] <chesedo> ...only after about 5 mins thu, which asks the question: why aren't main mem like that yet
[09:35] <theblazehen> Well, they kinda are.. Just gotta keep them cold
[09:35] <theblazehen> chesedo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_boot_attack
[09:35] <inetpro> lots of info is available in your long term memory as well, we're just lazy to access this slower resource often enough
[09:37] <chesedo> theblazehen: wow, thats interesting
[09:37] <inetpro> wish I could see the total usage in units of digital information
[09:37] <theblazehen> chesedo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Side-channel_attacks for more fun
[09:38] <theblazehen> Here we go on a wikipedia binge again..
[09:42] <chesedo> inetpro: heard the other day that our brains contain can something in the EB (exabyte = 1024 petabyte) of data
[09:42] <Kilos> our brains are wonderful, its us that dont know how to use them correctly
[09:42] <chesedo> ... or was that our body... one DNA stran is 18MB which it was built on if i remember correctly
[09:44] <theblazehen> chesedo: Yeah, but a lot of it is redundant
[09:44] <chesedo> Kilos: well imagine a computer trying to sort that many raw info
[09:44] <Kilos> yip
[09:45] <chesedo> theblazehen: yip
[09:46] <chesedo> ... but that is still 18mb stored in a few nano units
[09:46] <Kilos> i read another arcticle that we actually have more dna but its not active
[09:46] <Kilos> the aliens disabled it
[09:47] <Kilos> hi ChrisDames 
[09:47] <Kilos> what broke
[09:48] <ChrisDames> lmga
[09:48] <inetpro> chesedo: the bigger challenge is to transfer from body to another
[09:48] <inetpro> from one body*
[09:48] <Kilos> they are working on that inetpro 
[09:48] <ChrisDames> just trying to register
[09:49] <ChrisDames> hi Kilos 
[09:49] <Kilos> to put human brains in robot bodies
[09:49] <ChrisDames> how do I login?
[09:49] <Kilos> loin where
[09:49] <Kilos> login where
[09:49] <ChrisDames> xchat
[09:49] <chesedo> Kilos: lol, maybe that because more that 95% of all DNA are the same - they are a lot like program functions and we only differ in the parameters we send those 'functions'
[09:49] <Kilos> you mean on this channel
[09:50] <ChrisDames> yip
[09:50] <Kilos> you have registered the nick ChrisDames 
[09:50] <Kilos> didnt you
[09:50] <ChrisDames> dunno received a mail saying must use this link to register
[09:51] <Kilos> to make it identify you you type in /msg nickserv identify password
[09:51] <Kilos> to register you do /msg nickserv register ChrisDames  email address
[09:52] <Kilos> i gthink
[09:53] <Kilos> more than that the clever guys must help
[09:53] <ChrisDames> thats why we have you
[09:53] <ChrisDames> clever
[09:53] <Kilos> ai! nono thre others think better
[09:53] <Kilos> i do basics
[09:53] <ChrisDames> any visa progress?
[09:54] <Kilos> nope
[09:54] <ChrisDames> eish!
[09:55] <ChrisDames> ok Kilos lets just leave this register process, maybe someday
[09:55] <Kilos> why
[09:55] <Kilos> didnt you register it long ago
[09:55] <ChrisDames> gotta go and to complicated
[09:55] <ChrisDames> too
[09:55] <Kilos> ok anytime
[09:55] <Kilos> go safe
[09:55] <ChrisDames> maybe we did, chris is lazy about reading mails
[09:56] <Kilos> lol
[09:56] <ChrisDames> you too thks
[09:56] <ChrisDames> pas my skape op
[09:56] <Kilos> maak so
[09:56] <ChrisDames> ek kom nog eendag braai
[09:56] <Kilos> lol
[09:56] <ChrisDames> lmga
[09:56] <ChrisDames> mooi loop
[09:57] <Kilos> jy ook dankie
[09:57] <ChrisDames> groete van ChrisDames ook
[09:57] <Kilos> julle lewe te lekker
[09:57] <Kilos> ry te veel rond
[09:57] <ChrisDames> ja daar doer in de Bosveld
[09:57] <ChrisDames> cheers Kilos 
[09:58] <Kilos> cheers for now
[09:58] <Kilos> ai!
[09:58] <Kilos> apparently our disabled dna gives us other powers chesedo 
[09:59] <chesedo> hmm, ok
[09:59] <Kilos> like telepathy and those advanced things
[09:59] <Kilos> bending spoons with the mind and so on
[10:00] <Kilos> and foresight
[10:00] <thatgraemeguy> o_O
[10:00] <Kilos> hi thatgraemeguy 
[10:01] <chesedo> lol, i also use my mind to command muscle contraction - which can bend spoons (if strong enough)
[10:01] <Kilos> lol
[10:01] <Kilos> no man
[10:01] <Kilos> some peeps can pick up a cup of coffee with their minds
[10:02] <Kilos> hands at their sidews
[10:02] <thatgraemeguy> nobody can do that
[10:02] <thatgraemeguy> end of story
[10:02] <Kilos> maybe only magicians
[10:02] <chesedo> they must be quite the sight with their brain sticking out :P
[10:02] <Kilos> lol
[10:02] <Kilos> ive read lots of funny stuff
[10:03] <Kilos> even a tweet about the uk queen shapeshifting
[10:03] <thatgraemeguy> yeah you can read pretty much anything, that doesn't make it true or possible
[10:03] <thatgraemeguy> nobody is moving things with their mind. period.
[10:04] <Kilos> im not arguing
[10:05] <Kilos> but if we could use our whole brain im sure we will be able to do many things we see as impossible now
[10:06] <thatgraemeguy> the idea that we only use a portion of our brain is a myth
[10:06] <Kilos> like ptotographic memory
[10:06] <Kilos> photographic
[10:06] <thatgraemeguy> photographic memory isn't impossible, just rare
[10:06] <Kilos> and those others we see as retards that can do magic maths
[10:06] <chesedo> Kilos: when things do not have dates, names or explanations then you can be sure that it is false (just look at the whatsapp message - and others - that is constantly doing their rounds)
[10:07] <Kilos> thats just a different part of their brain that works as ours all should
[10:08] <Kilos> ok the queen shapeshifting gave dates times and place
[10:08] <chesedo> Kilos: magic maths is just build on doing maths a bit different than normal (from left to right for a base)
[10:08] <Kilos> tweeters should be able to find it
[10:08] <thatgraemeguy> people don't shapeshift. people don't move physical objects without physical contact of some kind
[10:09] <thatgraemeguy> twitter is not a scientific source of anything
[10:09] <Kilos> they gave links to the event but i dont waste data
[10:09] <thatgraemeguy> it. didn't. happen.
[10:09] <Kilos> ok
[10:10] <chesedo> Kilos: regarding the shapeshifting - do you think it might be similar to other optical illusion and would you have spotted it if someone did not point it out to you first?
[10:11] <Kilos> i have no idea, that stuff is all beyong me
[10:11] <Kilos> i battler to shift this boby around as it used to
[10:11] <thatgraemeguy> if you didn't see it happen in front of you, it is bull
[10:15] <MaN1> even if it did it might be, the eyes and brain are quite good at playing tricks on you :p
[10:43] <thatgraemeguy> If anyone recently jumped on the google music bandwagon and has been lamenting the lack of media key support: http://www.googleplaymusicdesktopplayer.com/
[10:44] <thatgraemeguy> now if only I could find a cost-effective radio upgrade for my Jeep I wouldn't need to muck around with CDs full of MP3s like some kind of savage :-(
[10:45] <Kilos> lol
[10:46] <thatgraemeguy> yeah 1st world problems, haha!
[11:19] <magespawn> good morning
[11:19] <magespawn> afternoon 
[11:19] <magespawn> day
[11:36] <pavlushka> afternoon magespawn !
[13:12] <thatgraemeguy> Hiiii
[13:13] <theblazehen> hi thatgraemeguy
[13:14] <thatgraemeguy> quiet in here today. everyone took leave I guess
[13:14] <theblazehen> yeah
[13:29] <superfly> actually, I've been kinda busy
[13:54] <pavlushka> lol
[13:55] <pavlushka> ahoy everyone
[14:26] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:26] <Kilos> everyone on their way home
[14:29] <pavlushka> Kilos: but they left you?
[14:30] <Kilos> lol im always home
[14:30] <Kilos> and maaz makes me coffee
[14:30] <Kilos> Maaz coffee on
[14:30]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[14:34] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[14:34] <Kilos> Maaz ty
[14:34] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[16:36] <magespawn> chat later
[16:44] <Kilos> yoo hoo mountain dew
[16:44] <inetpro> lol
[16:44] <Kilos> anyone remember that
[16:45] <inetpro> whisky or rum?
[16:45] <Kilos> wasnt it an advert for a colddrink in the old days
[16:46] <inetpro> carbonated soft drink brand produced and owned by PepsiCo?
[16:46] <Kilos> ah
[16:46] <Kilos> i dont know why that popped into the mind
[16:46] <Kilos> lol
[16:47] <inetpro> nothing wrong with your long term memory
[16:48] <Kilos> nope
[16:49] <inetpro> just need to tweak it some so we can transfer it to a backup
[16:49] <Kilos> lol
[16:51] <inetpro> life is way too short
[16:51] <Kilos> yeah
[16:51] <Kilos> actually life is long enough but time is the prob
[16:52] <inetpro> would be awesome if one could analyse all the stuff inside that memory for many years to come
[16:52] <Kilos> yeah
[16:53] <inetpro> friend of mine on his bike was hit with a car from behind this week 
[16:54] <Kilos> eish
[16:54] <Kilos> is he ok
[16:54] <inetpro> happened as he stopped to turn off with a car coming from the front
[16:55] <inetpro> he's still in very critical condition... back broke in two places... under heavy sedation
[16:55] <Kilos> oh my thats bad
[16:56] <Kilos> we need to learn to teleport from place to place
[16:57] <inetpro> he's a big fighter, been in hospital like this before, but he's not doing well at the moment
[16:57] <Kilos> shame man
[16:59] <Kilos> i go eat
[16:59] <inetpro> me too
[16:59] <Kilos> Maaz watch them
[16:59] <Maaz> oh Kilos I will watch them no problem, but you better be back soon!
[16:59] <inetpro> enjoy the meal
[17:50] <inetpro> Kilos: what did you make for dinner today?
[17:50] <Kilos> sister made veggie soup
[17:50] <Kilos> thick
[17:50] <inetpro> lekker
[17:50] <Kilos> \and of course had meat in too
[17:51] <theblazehen> Kilos: nice
[17:51] <Kilos> soup helps warm you in winter
[17:51] <Kilos> normally we have it in rainy weather but cold passes too
[17:52] <Kilos> and losta chilli/garlic sauce as well
[17:52] <Kilos> what did you have inetpro 
[17:52]  * inetpro had a nice stew with veggies and cooked to perfection with homegrown jalapeño and all
[17:53] <Kilos> yum
[17:54] <Kilos> eating is really a pleasurable pastime
[17:54] <Kilos> now im eating pickled peppadews as pudding
[17:55] <inetpro> klink baie lekker
[17:55] <Kilos> they sell them at supermarkets
[17:56] <Kilos> i grew lots this year and the ou tannie next door pickled and gave me a bottle
[17:56] <inetpro> the girls made Jellie for pudding but forgot to make custard so we'll wait for tomrrow with that
[17:57] <Kilos> jellie lekker like that too
[17:57] <inetpro> sure, but lekker warm custard is a must
[17:57] <Kilos> eat and they can make more to go with tomorrows custard
[17:58] <inetpro> too much of the goodness all at once is no good
[17:58] <Kilos> lol
[17:58] <Kilos> only if you have it too often
[17:59] <Kilos> inetpro pavlushka is getting like you
[17:59] <inetpro> why?
[18:00] <Kilos> slowly getting life back into bd channel
[18:00] <Kilos> so i said soon i can retire
[18:00] <Kilos> he said no im the irc man and not allowed to leave
[18:00] <inetpro> haha
[18:02] <pavlushka> I am here!
[18:02] <Kilos> haha hi pavlushka 
[18:02] <inetpro> uh oh!
[18:02] <Kilos> i tried to retire here as well once
[18:02] <pavlushka> Hello guys
[18:02] <inetpro> wb pavlushka
[18:03] <pavlushka> inetpro: are you angry with me, or something like this?
[18:03] <Kilos> lol
[18:03] <inetpro> nope, why would i?
[18:04] <pavlushka> inetpro: you dont respond like that, I miss you man!
[18:04] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:04] <Kilos> banglori peeps have funny ways
[18:05] <pavlushka> Kilos: like?
[18:05] <theblazehen> German people too. I like it
[18:05] <Kilos> like asking someone that just said wb to you if he is angry with you
[18:06] <inetpro> maybe he didn't read that Kilos
[18:06] <Kilos> pavlushka keep up man
[18:06] <pavlushka> yes, I missed that, so I was checking the logs
[18:06] <Kilos> haha
[18:07] <pavlushka> and by the way inetpro , thanks for the welcome
[18:07] <inetpro> pavlushka: did I ignore you somewhere?
[18:07] <pavlushka> ahoy theblazehen !
[18:07] <pavlushka> inetpro: let me think, mmmmmmm
[18:07] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:07] <Kilos> see
[18:09] <pavlushka> inetpro: remembered, stakes, :p
[18:09] <inetpro> stakes?
[18:09] <theblazehen> hey pavlushka
[18:10] <inetpro> I see stakes and read steaks... luckily have just had dinner
[18:10] <pavlushka> yes, I remembered stakes, bad joke, but your and superfy's and cryterions jokes are too smart, I need minutes to get those, :p
[18:11] <theblazehen> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/1362 no longer works :( from what I've found
[18:11] <pavlushka> inetpro: yes its steaks.
[18:11] <pavlushka> I re-remembered.
[18:14] <inetpro> steaks are lekker but I can't afford them any more
[18:15] <Kilos> the good old days
[18:15] <Kilos> steak egg and chips
[18:15] <Kilos> ohi superfly 
[18:16] <Kilos> sorry if i missed you today
[18:16] <theblazehen> Kilos: You make me hungry now..
[18:16] <Kilos> time for debconf16 to get done
[18:16] <Kilos> im always hungry when i see the word steak
[18:17] <inetpro> theblazehen: steek 'n vuurtjie aan die brand en gooi vir jou 'n lekker boerwors op die kole
[18:17] <Kilos> ai!
[18:18] <Kilos> even daai goed is duur nou
[18:18] <inetpro> boerewors*
[18:18] <Kilos> i enjoy boerewors raw
[18:19] <inetpro> 'n lekker aand om vir die sterre te kyk 
[18:19] <Kilos> te koud
[18:19] <theblazehen> Lost my motherboard pc speaker :(
[18:19] <Kilos> same as this t410
[18:20] <Kilos> only get sound over headfones
[18:20] <theblazehen> Was really tired other morning, couldn't concentrate enough to find the pid of the process running the `while:; do beep; done` script, so just removed pc speaker from motherboard
[18:20] <theblazehen> Can't remember where I put it
[18:20] <Kilos> eish
[18:21] <theblazehen> `ps aux | grep beep` Hmm.. I `still` haven't found it :p
[18:21] <inetpro> watch the brilliant waxing gibbous moon swing by the planets Mars and Saturn, plus the star Antares, on June 16, June 17 and June 18
[18:21] <Kilos> you mean that tiny speaker
[18:22] <theblazehen> Kilos: yes
[18:22] <Kilos> why would you take that off
[18:22] <theblazehen> Kilos: Because it was beeping :(
[18:23] <Kilos> lol
[18:23] <inetpro> ai!
[18:23] <Kilos> thats what its there to do
[18:23] <theblazehen> And couldn't find process to kill to stop it while I was just woken up after 4 hours sleep
[18:23] <pavlushka> inetpro: too late for the moon swing, I guess.
[18:23] <superfly> Kilos: it's fine, it was a nice quiet day, which meant I got a lot more done today
[18:23] <Kilos> cool superfly 
[18:24] <Kilos> im even trying honey with lots of finely chopped garlic in to try kill this flu now
[18:25] <Kilos> tomorrow ill chop onion in too
[18:25] <theblazehen> I need to find another speaker :(
[18:25] <theblazehen> So usefull. long script; beep
[18:25] <Kilos> why it will wake you
[18:26] <theblazehen> Only if I turn the alarm on Kilos :)
[18:26] <Kilos> lol
[18:26] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:26] <Kilos> you removed that one why?
[18:27] <Kilos> isnt it lying in the box at the bottom
[18:27] <Kilos> why take it elsewhere
[18:28] <pavlushka> Kilos: try ripen jack fruit for your flu, I was recovered in one day.
[18:28] <Kilos> what is jack fruit
[18:28] <Kilos> dont give me links to eat my data
[18:29] <theblazehen> Kilos: /me doesn't have pc in a box
[18:29] <Kilos> 'oh my is your mb in the open
[18:30] <theblazehen> Kilos: yeah
[18:30] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:31] <Kilos> thats why they make boxes so its hard to take parts out
[18:32] <inetpro> theblazehen: you remind me of an old colleague of mine, used to run his PC with everything mounted on an open cardboard box
[18:33] <theblazehen> inetpro: At least mine isn't on cardboard :)
[18:33] <Kilos> lol
[18:33] <Kilos> i thought of that once
[18:33] <pavlushka> lol
[18:33] <inetpro> it worked
[18:33] <pavlushka> theblazehen: then, on a shoe box?
[18:34] <inetpro> makes me want to try it even just for the fun of it
[18:34] <theblazehen> pavlushka: On wood shelf above my monitors etc :)
[18:34] <theblazehen> http://imgur.com/gallery/9qITRRc older pic
[18:34] <theblazehen> heh. Used to have transparent terminals. Now just black
[18:35] <Kilos> why you shpowing a panty there
[18:35] <Kilos> showing
[18:35] <theblazehen> Kilos: where?
[18:36] <Kilos> tiny pic 37 on the right
[18:36] <theblazehen> Ah. Not mine. Image hosting site
[18:36] <Kilos> lol
[18:37] <Kilos> thats like fb with russian chicks looking for za husbands
[18:37] <Kilos> fbpurity killed them all
[18:38] <theblazehen> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Contents well.. There goes my night
[18:38] <pavlushka> thatgraemeguy: btw, what do you used to do with that unattached memory module in the pic?
[18:39] <theblazehen> pavlushka: Was just waiting for me to reboot to add it to computer
[18:39] <theblazehen> I don't reboot often
[18:39] <theblazehen> " Outline of MySQL ("My Structured Query Language") – world's second most widely used relational database management system (RDBMS) and most widely used open-source RDBMS."  listed on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Contents/Technology_and_applied_sciences.... I don't think it's *that* important
[18:42] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[18:42] <theblazehen> night Kilos
[19:11] <inetpro> theblazehen: what are you trying to say about MySQL?
[19:12] <theblazehen> inetpro: I don't think it's appropriate as a whole category in the computing portal. Cryptography as an example is a single link, which branches out. Mysql doesn't deserve to be on the portal itself, but maybe behind a databases category
[19:13] <inetpro> hmm... ok
[19:13] <theblazehen> https://deis.com/blog/2016/kubernetes-illustrated-guide/ doing a *great* job of making me like it /s
[19:14] <inetpro> cool
[19:16] <theblazehen> I hate websites that try and look good but fail at high res. Literally the title on the left and a picture on the right.. On a 4k display.. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/19/magazine/the-parasite-underground.html?_r=0
[19:26] <inetpro> hate is a strong word theblazehen
[19:27] <paddatrapper> Why do people insist on sending me .doc files?? At least use a sensible format like PDF
[19:28] <inetpro> paddatrapper: PDF are often an overkill though
[19:28] <inetpro> files*
[19:29] <theblazehen> inetpro: Dislike then
[19:29] <inetpro> :-)
[19:30] <paddatrapper> inetpro: But a booking sheet does not need to tied into the Microsoft ecosystem, even just a plain text file would be preferable
[19:30] <inetpro> exactly
[19:31] <inetpro> in fact, I often say, just send me the contents in a plain email message
[19:31] <inetpro> without an attachment
[19:31] <paddatrapper> I'd agree with that
[19:32] <paddatrapper> Then I could answer it on my phone without having to wait until I get home/in wifi range to deal with it
[19:34] <inetpro> paddatrapper: what really irks me is when people ask for software to convert a PDF file to something else
[19:35] <paddatrapper> They clearly don't get the point of a PDF then...
[19:35] <inetpro> I rest my case
[19:37] <theblazehen> Eh, we don't need anything more than ANSI anyway. It has line drawing characters after all
[19:38] <inetpro> used those back in the days of MS DOS to draw borders around app display areas
[19:48] <theblazehen> heh
[19:48]  * theblazehen used to love qbasic...
[19:48] <theblazehen> Then moved to quickbasic. You could compile stuff!
[19:49] <MaNI> gorillas.bas \o/
[19:57] <inetpro> Clarion 3.0 with it's Turbo C compiler ftw!