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ahoneybunmm plasma does not that my multimonitors01:47
ahoneybunwell krunner mostly01:47
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ahoneybunclivejo: how do I restart plasma shell?02:45
ahoneybunmm krunner works only on one screen02:46
DarinMillerahoneybun: did you figure out how to restart plasmashell? (in case not:  killall plasmashell && plasmashell & )03:32
DarinMillerahoneybun: krunner works on both screens here (XX). My YY box is not hooked up to dual screen, but I can test it if you want.03:33
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> I'm on Xenial03:34
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> With backports on03:34
DarinMillerMe too on my main box (dual monitors).03:37
DarinMillerSo if you move your mouse to the 2nd monitor, krunner does not follow?03:37
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Yea just on the first (well to the left of me)03:37
DarinMillerHmmm, strange.03:40
DarinMillerwhat if you change your primary monitor to the 2nd screen?03:41
DarinMillerAnd good luck with that as that is buggy all the way thru to plasma 5.7....03:42
IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Not tried that03:42
DarinMillerBut 5.7 works most of the time, whereas plasma 5.5 does not work most of the time.03:42
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IrcsomeBot<ahoneybun> Well we are on 5.6.4 with backports03:43
DarinMiller5.5 is broken for me on 3 of my systems. Had to move my wife back to 14.04 because of that problem.03:43
ahoneybunswitching main monitors seems to have helped03:44
DarinMilleruse xrandr to list your monitor names. then use  xrandr --output DVI-D-0 --primary03:45
ahoneybunthe system setting work03:45
DarinMillerreplace DVI-D-0 with your respective monitor names and you might see the bug.03:45
DarinMillerthe xrandr method allows up arrow action in the terminal to quickly switch between the 2. The sys setting will follow.03:46
ahoneybunmm03:47
DarinMillerWhat annoying is when plasma gets confused and make the wrong monitor the primary monitor even though both xrandr and Sys setting indicate the oppososite where the main panel lands.03:48
ahoneybunthat is odd03:48
DarinMillerIt was really bad before 5.6.4.  Now its intermittent.  One of the plasma devs wrote a blog why it was happening and thought they fixed it in 5.7.03:49
ahoneybunthought?03:49
DarinMillerThe eliminated duplicate modules and had to exentisely rewrite the mechanics to make plasma work with the new QT.  Looking for the blog now...03:51
DarinMillerThey^03:52
DarinMillerHere are some of the details in Martin's blog, but it's not the blog I was trying to find: https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2016/06/a-task-manager-for-the-plasma-wayland-session/04:02
ahoneybunthanks DarinMiller04:04
DarinMillerHere it is: http://vizzzion.org/blog/2016/05/multiscreen-in-plasma-5-7-and-beyond/04:07
ahoneybunsweet04:09
DarinMillerBut I am testing 5.7 on with QT 5.6 on Neon and it still has issue and plasm crashes when changing primary monitors and resolutions.  Though Neon has QT 5.6, not 5.6.1.  Not sure if QT 5.7 improves things either.04:12
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acheronukeveryone having the weekend off?10:51
acheronukclivejo: just for the hell of it to see what adding qt5.6.1 to yakkety would do http://paste.ubuntu.com/17532113/11:47
yofelsounds about right without doing the private ABI transition12:04
acheronukyes it makes sense with what the debian transition status pages says, and what Mirv has test rebuilt in their qt ppa even taking into account that is only 5.6.012:28
soeeso KDE Telpathy is dead right ?12:50
BluesKajHowdy folks12:59
acheronuksoee: Is it? never used it13:17
soeeacheronuk: Martin Klapetek on ML wrote about new aintainters need for several thing and he mentioned also:13:30
soeeThe last one and the biggest one - the 12 repos of KDE Telepathy. Now this project is effectively dead. It hasn't seen any real development for more than a year and basically is just on life support ever since the core team had to leave the project because of job and life constraints.13:31
soeeand i think it is installed by default but imo it should not be13:33
ahoneybunI think it is13:43
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acheronuksoee: ah. http://martys.typepad.com/blog/2016/06/new-maintainers-wanted-kde-telepathy-kaccounts-plasma-notifications-and-others.html18:24
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yofelcould someone please file a bug against kubuntu-meta regarding ktp?20:32
yofelfor 16.04 we'll have to live with having to support it though20:32
soee_yofel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/159419322:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1594193 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "KDE Telepathy should not be installed by default as it is not developed anymore" [Undecided,New]22:41
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