=== claydoh is now known as Guest54344 [01:47] mm plasma does not that my multimonitors [01:47] well krunner mostly === Guest89679 is now known as Mamarok__ === Mamarok__ is now known as Mamarok === Mamarok is now known as Guest35980 === Guest35980 is now known as Mamarok === claydoh is now known as Guest68873 [02:45] clivejo: how do I restart plasma shell? [02:46] mm krunner works only on one screen [03:32] ahoneybun: did you figure out how to restart plasmashell? (in case not: killall plasmashell && plasmashell & ) [03:33] ahoneybun: krunner works on both screens here (XX). My YY box is not hooked up to dual screen, but I can test it if you want. [03:34] I'm on Xenial [03:34] With backports on [03:37] Me too on my main box (dual monitors). [03:37] So if you move your mouse to the 2nd monitor, krunner does not follow? [03:37] Yea just on the first (well to the left of me) [03:40] Hmmm, strange. [03:41] what if you change your primary monitor to the 2nd screen? [03:42] And good luck with that as that is buggy all the way thru to plasma 5.7.... [03:42] Not tried that [03:42] But 5.7 works most of the time, whereas plasma 5.5 does not work most of the time. === claydoh is now known as Guest71349 [03:43] Well we are on 5.6.4 with backports [03:43] 5.5 is broken for me on 3 of my systems. Had to move my wife back to 14.04 because of that problem. [03:44] switching main monitors seems to have helped [03:45] use xrandr to list your monitor names. then use xrandr --output DVI-D-0 --primary [03:45] the system setting work [03:45] replace DVI-D-0 with your respective monitor names and you might see the bug. [03:46] the xrandr method allows up arrow action in the terminal to quickly switch between the 2. The sys setting will follow. [03:47] mm [03:48] What annoying is when plasma gets confused and make the wrong monitor the primary monitor even though both xrandr and Sys setting indicate the oppososite where the main panel lands. [03:48] that is odd [03:49] It was really bad before 5.6.4. Now its intermittent. One of the plasma devs wrote a blog why it was happening and thought they fixed it in 5.7. [03:49] thought? [03:51] The eliminated duplicate modules and had to exentisely rewrite the mechanics to make plasma work with the new QT. Looking for the blog now... [03:52] They^ [04:02] Here are some of the details in Martin's blog, but it's not the blog I was trying to find: https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2016/06/a-task-manager-for-the-plasma-wayland-session/ [04:04] thanks DarinMiller [04:07] Here it is: http://vizzzion.org/blog/2016/05/multiscreen-in-plasma-5-7-and-beyond/ [04:09] sweet [04:12] But I am testing 5.7 on with QT 5.6 on Neon and it still has issue and plasm crashes when changing primary monitors and resolutions. Though Neon has QT 5.6, not 5.6.1. Not sure if QT 5.7 improves things either. === claydoh is now known as Guest63046 [10:51] everyone having the weekend off? [11:47] clivejo: just for the hell of it to see what adding qt5.6.1 to yakkety would do http://paste.ubuntu.com/17532113/ [12:04] sounds about right without doing the private ABI transition [12:28] yes it makes sense with what the debian transition status pages says, and what Mirv has test rebuilt in their qt ppa even taking into account that is only 5.6.0 [12:50] so KDE Telpathy is dead right ? [12:59] Howdy folks [13:17] soee: Is it? never used it [13:30] acheronuk: Martin Klapetek on ML wrote about new aintainters need for several thing and he mentioned also: [13:31] The last one and the biggest one - the 12 repos of KDE Telepathy. Now this project is effectively dead. It hasn't seen any real development for more than a year and basically is just on life support ever since the core team had to leave the project because of job and life constraints. [13:33] and i think it is installed by default but imo it should not be [13:43] I think it is === Jobava_ is now known as Jobava [18:24] soee: ah. http://martys.typepad.com/blog/2016/06/new-maintainers-wanted-kde-telepathy-kaccounts-plasma-notifications-and-others.html === Jobava_ is now known as Jobava [20:32] could someone please file a bug against kubuntu-meta regarding ktp? [20:32] for 16.04 we'll have to live with having to support it though [22:41] yofel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-meta/+bug/1594193 [22:41] Launchpad bug 1594193 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "KDE Telepathy should not be installed by default as it is not developed anymore" [Undecided,New] === kitterma is now known as ScottK