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tyhicks | hello | 16:31 |
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tyhicks | #startmeeting | 16:31 |
meetingology | Meeting started Mon Jun 20 16:31:48 2016 UTC. The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 16:31 |
meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 16:31 |
mdeslaur | \o | 16:31 |
jjohansen | o/ | 16:31 |
tyhicks | The meeting agenda can be found at: | 16:32 |
tyhicks | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting | 16:32 |
tyhicks | [TOPIC] Announcements | 16:32 |
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tyhicks | Stefan Bader (smb) provided debdiffs for precise-xenial for xen | 16:32 |
tyhicks | Otto Kekäläinen (otto) provided debdiffs for wily-xenial for mariadb-10.0 (LP: #1589302) | 16:32 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1589302 in mariadb-10.0 (Ubuntu Yakkety) "USN-2953-1: MySQL vulnerabilities partially applies to MariaDB too" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1589302 | 16:32 |
tyhicks | Thank you for your assistance in keeping Ubuntu users secure! :) | 16:32 |
tyhicks | [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report | 16:32 |
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tyhicks | mdeslaur: you're up | 16:32 |
mdeslaur | I'm in the happy place this week, and I'm off wed-fri | 16:32 |
mdeslaur | I'm currently about to publish a bunch of updates | 16:32 |
mdeslaur | and I have a few more to test and publish tomorrow | 16:32 |
mdeslaur | I want to update the uefi secure boot testing instructions if I have time | 16:33 |
mdeslaur | that's about it from me, sbeattie? | 16:33 |
sbeattie | I'm on community this week | 16:34 |
sbeattie | I need to finish up a couple of todos from the sprint last | 16:34 |
sbeattie | I'll pick up an update or to this week | 16:35 |
sbeattie | I'm also looking for pie-related build failures in the background. | 16:35 |
sbeattie | I may also take friday off. | 16:35 |
sbeattie | that's probably it for me. tyhicks? | 16:36 |
tyhicks | I'm on bug triage this week and I'll be covering CVE triage today and tomorrow | 16:36 |
tyhicks | I have quite a few sprint followups/todos | 16:36 |
tyhicks | I have lingering email catchup to do from the last two weeks (vacation and then sprinting kept me from some things) | 16:37 |
tyhicks | I need to remind myself where I was at with the yakkety apparmor upload, complete that, and then move on to the xenial SRU | 16:37 |
tyhicks | I have some snap-confine PR reviews to do (seccomp arg filtering and some others that landed without security team review) | 16:38 |
tyhicks | then I'd like to move on to seccomp complain mode for snappy's devmode | 16:38 |
tyhicks | that's it for me | 16:38 |
tyhicks | jjohansen: you're up | 16:38 |
jjohansen | I'm working on making sure apparmor stacking is ready to be opened up to user name spaces | 16:39 |
jjohansen | I have a few TODOs to finish up from last weeks sprint, and I have a neglected upstream kernel pull-request to finish getting together and push out | 16:40 |
jjohansen | I also have the 4.7 apparmor rebase to finish with and push to the kt | 16:41 |
jjohansen | and I will be taking thurs and friday off | 16:41 |
jjohansen | oh and I suppose if I can squeeze it in I will push up the current set of apparmor 3.5 fixes to the kt for xenial | 16:42 |
jjohansen | thats it for /me tyhicks back to you | 16:42 |
tyhicks | sounds like you'll have a more than full week for only 3 days | 16:42 |
tyhicks | there's probably no need to work on the 3.5 fix pull request this week | 16:43 |
tyhicks | chrisccoulson: you're up | 16:43 |
jjohansen | heh, yeah, like I said if I can squeeze it in :) | 16:43 |
chrisccoulson | I've got one follow-up todo from last week (creating instructions for doing flash updates). | 16:43 |
chrisccoulson | I don't have any other updates planned this week | 16:44 |
chrisccoulson | Other than that, I'll hopefully be able to test the browser on arm64. So I'll be spending time this week fixing any issues that result from that | 16:45 |
chrisccoulson | I think that's me done | 16:45 |
tyhicks | sounds like a nice week | 16:46 |
tyhicks | ratliff: your turn | 16:46 |
ratliff | I am working on todos from the sprint and misc. management tasks | 16:46 |
ratliff | I want to finish the transition tasks from jdstrand and start playing with the uct tools | 16:47 |
ratliff | I will be off on Friday (travelling) | 16:47 |
ratliff | back to you tyhicks | 16:47 |
tyhicks | thanks! | 16:48 |
tyhicks | [TOPIC] Highlighted packages | 16:48 |
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tyhicks | The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. | 16:48 |
tyhicks | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. | 16:48 |
tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/pngcrush.html | 16:48 |
tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/inn.html | 16:48 |
tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/minissdpd.html | 16:48 |
tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gitlab.html | 16:48 |
tyhicks | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/tardiff.html | 16:48 |
tyhicks | [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions | 16:48 |
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tyhicks | Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? | 16:48 |
sbeattie | tyhicks: I have one more item on my plate this week, I may need to spend some time looking at why aslr tests are failing on ppc64el and s390: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1594347 | 16:49 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1594347 in QA Regression Testing "kernel-security aslr tests failing on ppc64el and zseries" [Undecided,New] | 16:49 |
chrisccoulson | oh, the "no updates planned" from me isn't true - I've got an oxide update to do | 16:49 |
tyhicks | sbeattie: huh... let me know if you aren't able to get to it before taking friday (if you take off friday) | 16:50 |
tyhicks | s/before taking friday/before friday/ | 16:51 |
tyhicks | chrisccoulson: ack | 16:51 |
tyhicks | mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, ChrisCoulson, ratliff: Thanks! | 16:51 |
tyhicks | #endmeeting | 16:51 |
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meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Jun 20 16:51:16 2016 UTC. | 16:51 |
meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-06-20-16.31.moin.txt | 16:51 |
sbeattie | tyhicks: thanks! | 16:51 |
jjohansen | thanks tyhicks | 16:51 |
ratliff | thanks, tyhicks! | 16:51 |
mdeslaur | thanks tyhicks! | 16:51 |
BenC | o/ | 19:00 |
jbicha | \o | 19:01 |
micahg | o/, but brb | 19:01 |
Kilos | untu loco going dtrong the trsditional way | 19:01 |
rbasak | o/ | 19:02 |
Kilos | hoping to get the loco going | 19:02 |
Kilos | sorry nfor typos | 19:02 |
Kilos | kb gone crazy | 19:02 |
Kilos | oops sorry | 19:02 |
bdmurray | o/ | 19:03 |
Kilos | i hit some wrong key somewhere. sorry guys | 19:03 |
bdmurray | Kilos: we are about to start a meeting | 19:05 |
micahg | #startmeeting DMB | 19:05 |
meetingology | Meeting started Mon Jun 20 19:05:22 2016 UTC. The chair is micahg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 19:05 |
meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 19:05 |
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micahg | Welcome to the DMB meeting | 19:05 |
micahg | #topic Review of previous action items | 19:05 |
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micahg | #subtopic cyphremox Update Mate packages per Iain Laney's suggestions | 19:06 |
micahg | hrm, wiki typo | 19:06 |
micahg | any update | 19:06 |
micahg | cyphermox: ^^ | 19:07 |
cyphermox | hello | 19:07 |
bdmurray | he was at a sprint last week so might be taking a swap day | 19:07 |
bdmurray | or not | 19:07 |
cyphermox | nah but it's not done iether | 19:08 |
micahg | ok | 19:08 |
micahg | carried | 19:08 |
micahg | #subtopic everyone to review rbasak's question on devel-permissions and give feedback | 19:08 |
micahg | whoops, I forgot to do that | 19:09 |
rbasak | Unless anyone objects, I'll go ahead and ask the TB to add the packageset this week. | 19:09 |
micahg | we have TB members on the team, we can JFDI | 19:10 |
BenC | I’m all for that | 19:10 |
bdmurray | rbasak: what was the decision on fonts-*? gunnar seemed to indicate he didn't care about that as much | 19:10 |
rbasak | Based on the ML thread, I thought we were going to create a personal packageset for Gunnar. | 19:11 |
rbasak | Then we can adjust it as/if/when glob expansions change. | 19:11 |
micahg | I forget, is there any team in Debian for which this packageset could be mirrored against? | 19:11 |
bdmurray | "If wildcards cannot be used that way, I'd suggest that you skip the fonts-* part for now." | 19:11 |
micahg | well, if we're doing a packageset, we can add new fonts-* to the packageset when requested | 19:12 |
micahg | and the packageset script could actually be updated to handle that | 19:12 |
rbasak | Let's stop bikeshedding this. | 19:13 |
micahg | I'd still prefer to make the packageset more general if there's a way to do that that makes sense, otherwise, i'm fine with the personal packageset in this scenario | 19:14 |
rbasak | micahg: fine, but please can you decide your "if" now, so that we can proceed? | 19:15 |
micahg | would anyone else also want a languages packageset or is it just me? | 19:18 |
micahg | sorry, was looking up the packages requested again | 19:18 |
bdmurray | I don't think the extra work is justified at this point in time. | 19:18 |
bdmurray | Additionally, I believe I looked for overlap in the packages requested and other package sets and found little to none. | 19:20 |
micahg | ok, rbasak can I assign to you then to find a TB person (I think we have one or two on the team) to create the packageset and then add the packages to the new packageset with a description and possibly updating the packageset script for the globs? | 19:20 |
rbasak | bdmurray: extra work for which option? | 19:21 |
micahg | yeah, it's just making a team in LP and marking it as the uploader for the packageset, not a lot of "extra" work | 19:21 |
bdmurray | rbasak: for the languages packageset micachg was asking about. | 19:21 |
rbasak | OK | 19:22 |
rbasak | micahg: ack to taking that assignment | 19:23 |
micahg | #action rbasak to find a TB DMB member to create packageset for gunnarhj's packages | 19:23 |
meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to find a TB DMB member to create packageset for gunnarhj's packages | 19:23 |
micahg | #action rbasak to add gunnarhj's packages to the new packageset (carried) | 19:24 |
meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to add gunnarhj's packages to the new packageset (carried) | 19:24 |
micahg | #action rbasak to update packageset script to handle globs for new packageset if needed | 19:24 |
meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to update packageset script to handle globs for new packageset if needed | 19:24 |
rbasak | Thanks | 19:25 |
micahg | #subtopic everyone to review rbasak's question on devel-permissions and give feedback | 19:25 |
micahg | oops | 19:25 |
micahg | #undo | 19:25 |
meetingology | Removing item from minutes: SUBTOPIC | 19:25 |
micahg | #subtopic sil2100 to check the state of Ubuntu uTouch Uploaders and any other teams that might be non-existent | 19:26 |
micahg | carried | 19:26 |
micahg | moving on | 19:26 |
micahg | #topic MOTU Applications | 19:26 |
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micahg | #subtopic Reinstating Jeremy Bicha into MOTU after an absence | 19:26 |
micahg | I guess my main question is what was the motivation for leaving before | 19:27 |
micahg | jbicha: ^^ | 19:29 |
jbicha | I knew I wasn't going to be using my permissions for a while so I thought it would be better if I left the teams | 19:29 |
bdmurray | Did he leave or just not renew when he got the email from Launchpad? | 19:29 |
jbicha | I left the teams | 19:29 |
BenC | jbicha: I go through periods of not using my core dev permissions. It’s best to retain permissions that you are granted, and only drop them if you plan on never returning. | 19:31 |
BenC | That’s my opinion, but I think it’s fairly well accepted by others. Just a note for the future :) | 19:31 |
jbicha | I'll keep that in mind | 19:31 |
micahg | well, that's debatable, I think that's what happens in practice, but I don't know if that's best | 19:32 |
jbicha | is it better for the project though if someone actively marks their absence | 19:32 |
BenC | As someone trying to get back into Debian, I feel the path of least difficulty for getting you back on track is best. | 19:32 |
micahg | jbicha: are your reasons why you weren't uploading something you can share? | 19:32 |
jbicha | micahg: I'd rather not discuss my need to leave publicly if that's ok | 19:33 |
jbicha | it was for personal reasons | 19:33 |
micahg | ok | 19:33 |
BenC | I would say that self removal shows some form of self discipline and respect for the project, so there’s that. | 19:34 |
rbasak | jbicha: what sort of uploads do you expect to do with restored permissions? Have you done any sponsored ones already | 19:35 |
rbasak | ? | 19:35 |
jbicha | my recent activity has been helping with sru's for xenial: gnome-documents, gnome-taquin (stuck in queue) and abiword | 19:36 |
jbicha | I am looking to rejoin ~motu and ~ubuntu-gnome-dev | 19:36 |
jbicha | I've done quite a bit with the GNOME3 PPA since we're not ready for GTK 3.20 in Yakkety yet | 19:36 |
rbasak | Are you in touch with GNOME flavor uploaders? | 19:37 |
jbicha | yes, I have rejoined the Ubuntu GNOME team and communicate with ricotz and darkxst | 19:37 |
rbasak | Are they aware of this request? | 19:38 |
jbicha | darkxst encouraged me to re-apply | 19:38 |
rbasak | OK, thanks. I just wanted to make sure we don't surprise anyone (since normally we'd expect endoresements from people on the same teams so we'd know that they are aware) | 19:39 |
jbicha | he's been having computer trouble so he's been mostly off IRC recently | 19:39 |
jbicha | I can ask him to send y'all an email | 19:39 |
jbicha | it's also early AM in Australia (his time) | 19:40 |
bdmurray | jbicha: so 2 of the 3 SRus have been accepted? | 19:40 |
rbasak | IMHO (I can't speak for the others) I'm happy to trust your word. | 19:40 |
rbasak | The CoC talks of departing gracefully. In your opinion, did you do this? | 19:41 |
jbicha | bdmurray: yes, the other was sponsored uploaded but not accepted in the X queue yet | 19:41 |
rbasak | Sorry, I'd like to have asked this in the ML, but these questions didn't occur to me until now. | 19:41 |
rbasak | It's an unusual situation and I'm new on the DMB> | 19:42 |
rbasak | . | 19:42 |
jbicha | rbasak: yes I announced my departure in advance on https://jeremybicha.wordpress.com/2013/05/27/moving-on/ | 19:42 |
rbasak | Thanks | 19:42 |
jbicha | and I tried to turn over things as much as possible to darkxst (I was tech lead for Ubuntu GNOME at the time) | 19:42 |
rbasak | No more questions from me I think. | 19:42 |
micahg | #vote reinstate jbicha and ubuntu-gnome-dev | 19:45 |
meetingology | Please vote on: reinstate jbicha and ubuntu-gnome-dev | 19:45 |
meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 19:45 |
rbasak | micahg: and motu I think? | 19:46 |
micahg | #voters cyphermox bdmurray micahg BenC | 19:46 |
meetingology | Current voters: BenC bdmurray cyphermox micahg | 19:46 |
BenC | +1 | 19:46 |
meetingology | +1 received from BenC | 19:46 |
micahg | #voters cyphermox bdmurray micahg BenC rbasak | 19:46 |
meetingology | Current voters: BenC bdmurray cyphermox micahg rbasak | 19:46 |
micahg | and MOTU | 19:46 |
rbasak | +1 | 19:46 |
meetingology | +1 received from rbasak | 19:46 |
micahg | #vote reinstate jbicha to MOTU and ubuntu-gnome-dev | 19:47 |
meetingology | Voting still open on: reinstate jbicha and ubuntu-gnome-dev | 19:47 |
bdmurray | +1 | 19:47 |
meetingology | +1 received from bdmurray | 19:47 |
cyphermox | +1 | 19:47 |
meetingology | +1 received from cyphermox | 19:47 |
micahg | +1 | 19:47 |
meetingology | +1 received from micahg | 19:47 |
BenC | +1 again? | 19:47 |
meetingology | +1 again? received from BenC | 19:47 |
micahg | #endvote | 19:48 |
meetingology | Voting ended on: reinstate jbicha and ubuntu-gnome-dev | 19:48 |
meetingology | Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 19:48 |
meetingology | Motion carried | 19:48 |
micahg | jbicha: thanks, we'll get this set up for you again | 19:48 |
BenC | jbicha: Welcome back | 19:48 |
jbicha | thank you! | 19:48 |
micahg | #topic AOB | 19:49 |
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jbicha | the sponsoring queue was a bit slow lately so now I can be looking at it from the other side (i.e. helping) | 19:49 |
micahg | #info next chair rbasak | 19:53 |
micahg | #endmeeting | 19:53 |
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meetingology | Meeting ended Mon Jun 20 19:53:52 2016 UTC. | 19:53 |
meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-06-20-19.05.moin.txt | 19:53 |
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