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tyhickshello16:31
tyhicks#startmeeting16:31
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Jun 20 16:31:48 2016 UTC.  The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.16:31
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mdeslaur\o16:31
jjohanseno/16:31
tyhicksThe meeting agenda can be found at:16:32
tyhicks[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting16:32
tyhicks[TOPIC] Announcements16:32
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tyhicksStefan Bader (smb) provided debdiffs for precise-xenial for xen16:32
tyhicksOtto Kekäläinen (otto) provided debdiffs for wily-xenial for mariadb-10.0 (LP: #1589302)16:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1589302 in mariadb-10.0 (Ubuntu Yakkety) "USN-2953-1: MySQL vulnerabilities partially applies to MariaDB too" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158930216:32
tyhicksThank you for your assistance in keeping Ubuntu users secure! :)16:32
tyhicks[TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report16:32
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tyhicksmdeslaur: you're up16:32
mdeslaurI'm in the happy place this week, and I'm off wed-fri16:32
mdeslaurI'm currently about to publish a bunch of updates16:32
mdeslaurand I have a few more to test and publish tomorrow16:32
mdeslaurI want to update the uefi secure boot testing instructions if I have time16:33
mdeslaurthat's about it from me, sbeattie?16:33
sbeattieI'm on community this week16:34
sbeattieI need to finish up a couple of todos from the sprint last16:34
sbeattieI'll pick up an update or to this week16:35
sbeattieI'm also looking for pie-related build failures in the background.16:35
sbeattieI may also take friday off.16:35
sbeattiethat's probably it for me. tyhicks?16:36
tyhicksI'm on bug triage this week and I'll be covering CVE triage today and tomorrow16:36
tyhicksI have quite a few sprint followups/todos16:36
tyhicksI have lingering email catchup to do from the last two weeks (vacation and then sprinting kept me from some things)16:37
tyhicksI need to remind myself where I was at with the yakkety apparmor upload, complete that, and then move on to the xenial SRU16:37
tyhicksI have some snap-confine PR reviews to do (seccomp arg filtering and some others that landed without security team review)16:38
tyhicksthen I'd like to move on to seccomp complain mode for snappy's devmode16:38
tyhicksthat's it for me16:38
tyhicksjjohansen: you're up16:38
jjohansenI'm working on making sure apparmor stacking is ready to be opened up to user name spaces16:39
jjohansenI have a few TODOs to finish up from last weeks sprint, and I have a neglected upstream kernel pull-request to finish getting together and push out16:40
jjohansenI also have the 4.7 apparmor rebase to finish with and push to the kt16:41
jjohansenand I will be taking thurs and friday off16:41
jjohansenoh and I suppose if I can squeeze it in I will push up the current set of apparmor 3.5 fixes to the kt for xenial16:42
jjohansenthats it for /me tyhicks back to you16:42
tyhickssounds like you'll have a more than full week for only 3 days16:42
tyhicksthere's probably no need to work on the 3.5 fix pull request this week16:43
tyhickschrisccoulson: you're up16:43
jjohansenheh, yeah, like I said if I can squeeze it in :)16:43
chrisccoulsonI've got one follow-up todo from last week (creating instructions for doing flash updates).16:43
chrisccoulsonI don't have any other updates planned this week16:44
chrisccoulsonOther than that, I'll hopefully be able to test the browser on arm64. So I'll be spending time this week fixing any issues that result from that16:45
chrisccoulsonI think that's me done16:45
tyhickssounds like a nice week16:46
tyhicksratliff: your turn16:46
ratliffI am working on todos from the sprint and misc. management tasks16:46
ratliffI want to finish the transition tasks from jdstrand and start playing with the uct tools16:47
ratliffI will be off on Friday (travelling)16:47
ratliffback to you tyhicks16:47
tyhicksthanks!16:48
tyhicks[TOPIC] Highlighted packages16:48
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tyhicksThe Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so.16:48
tyhicksSee https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved.16:48
tyhickshttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/pngcrush.html16:48
tyhickshttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/inn.html16:48
tyhickshttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/minissdpd.html16:48
tyhickshttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gitlab.html16:48
tyhickshttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/tardiff.html16:48
tyhicks[TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions16:48
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tyhicksDoes anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?16:48
sbeattietyhicks: I have one more item on my plate this week, I may need to spend some time looking at why aslr tests are failing on ppc64el and s390: https://launchpad.net/bugs/159434716:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1594347 in QA Regression Testing "kernel-security aslr tests failing on ppc64el and zseries" [Undecided,New]16:49
chrisccoulsonoh, the "no updates planned" from me isn't true - I've got an oxide update to do16:49
tyhickssbeattie: huh... let me know if you aren't able to get to it before taking friday (if you take off friday)16:50
tyhickss/before taking friday/before friday/16:51
tyhickschrisccoulson: ack16:51
tyhicksmdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, ChrisCoulson, ratliff: Thanks!16:51
tyhicks#endmeeting16:51
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meetingologyMeeting ended Mon Jun 20 16:51:16 2016 UTC.16:51
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-06-20-16.31.moin.txt16:51
sbeattietyhicks: thanks!16:51
jjohansenthanks tyhicks16:51
ratliffthanks, tyhicks!16:51
mdeslaurthanks tyhicks!16:51
BenCo/19:00
jbicha\o19:01
micahgo/, but brb19:01
Kilosuntu loco going dtrong the trsditional way19:01
rbasako/19:02
Kiloshoping to get the loco going19:02
Kilossorry nfor typos19:02
Kiloskb gone crazy19:02
Kilosoops sorry19:02
bdmurrayo/19:03
Kilosi hit some wrong key somewhere. sorry guys19:03
bdmurrayKilos: we are about to start a meeting19:05
micahg#startmeeting DMB19:05
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Jun 20 19:05:22 2016 UTC.  The chair is micahg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.19:05
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick19:05
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micahgWelcome to the DMB meeting19:05
micahg#topic Review of previous action items19:05
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micahg#subtopic cyphremox Update Mate packages per Iain Laney's suggestions19:06
micahghrm, wiki typo19:06
micahgany update19:06
micahgcyphermox: ^^19:07
cyphermoxhello19:07
bdmurrayhe was at a sprint last week so might be taking a swap day19:07
bdmurrayor not19:07
cyphermoxnah but it's not done iether19:08
micahgok19:08
micahgcarried19:08
micahg#subtopic everyone to review rbasak's question on devel-permissions and give feedback19:08
micahgwhoops, I forgot to do that19:09
rbasakUnless anyone objects, I'll go ahead and ask the TB to add the packageset this week.19:09
micahgwe have TB members on the team, we can JFDI19:10
BenCI’m all for that19:10
bdmurrayrbasak: what was the decision on fonts-*? gunnar seemed to indicate he didn't care about that as much19:10
rbasakBased on the ML thread, I thought we were going to create a personal packageset for Gunnar.19:11
rbasakThen we can adjust it as/if/when glob expansions change.19:11
micahgI forget, is there any team in Debian for which this packageset could be mirrored against?19:11
bdmurray"If wildcards cannot be used that way, I'd suggest that you skip the fonts-* part for now."19:11
micahgwell, if we're doing a packageset, we can add new fonts-* to the packageset when requested19:12
micahgand the packageset script could actually be updated to handle that19:12
rbasakLet's stop bikeshedding this.19:13
micahgI'd still prefer to make the packageset more general if there's a way to do that that makes sense, otherwise, i'm fine with the personal packageset in this scenario19:14
rbasakmicahg: fine, but please can you decide your "if" now, so that we can proceed?19:15
micahgwould anyone else also want a languages packageset or is it just me?19:18
micahgsorry, was looking up the packages requested again19:18
bdmurrayI don't think the extra work is justified at this point in time.19:18
bdmurrayAdditionally, I believe I looked for overlap in the packages requested and other package sets and found little to none.19:20
micahgok, rbasak can I assign to you then to find a TB person (I think we have one or two on the team) to create the packageset and then add the packages to the new packageset with a description and possibly updating the packageset script for the globs?19:20
rbasakbdmurray: extra work for which option?19:21
micahgyeah, it's just making a team in LP and marking it as the uploader for the packageset, not a lot of "extra" work19:21
bdmurrayrbasak: for the languages packageset micachg was asking about.19:21
rbasakOK19:22
rbasakmicahg: ack to taking that assignment19:23
micahg#action rbasak to find a TB DMB member to create packageset for gunnarhj's packages19:23
meetingologyACTION: rbasak to find a TB DMB member to create packageset for gunnarhj's packages19:23
micahg#action rbasak to add gunnarhj's packages to the new packageset (carried)19:24
meetingologyACTION: rbasak to add gunnarhj's packages to the new packageset (carried)19:24
micahg#action rbasak to update packageset script to handle globs for new packageset if needed19:24
meetingologyACTION: rbasak to update packageset script to handle globs for new packageset if needed19:24
rbasakThanks19:25
micahg#subtopic everyone to review rbasak's question on devel-permissions and give feedback19:25
micahgoops19:25
micahg#undo19:25
meetingologyRemoving item from minutes: SUBTOPIC19:25
micahg#subtopic sil2100 to check the state of Ubuntu uTouch Uploaders and any other teams that might be non-existent19:26
micahgcarried19:26
micahgmoving on19:26
micahg#topic MOTU Applications19:26
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micahg#subtopic Reinstating Jeremy Bicha into MOTU after an absence19:26
micahgI guess my main question is what was the motivation for leaving before19:27
micahgjbicha: ^^19:29
jbichaI knew I wasn't going to be using my permissions for a while so I thought it would be better if I left the teams19:29
bdmurrayDid he leave or just not renew when he got the email from Launchpad?19:29
jbichaI left the teams19:29
BenCjbicha: I go through periods of not using my core dev permissions. It’s best to retain permissions that you are granted, and only drop them if you plan on never returning.19:31
BenCThat’s my opinion, but I think it’s fairly well accepted by others. Just a note for the future :)19:31
jbichaI'll keep that in mind19:31
micahgwell, that's debatable, I think that's what happens in practice, but I don't know if that's best19:32
jbichais it better for the project though if someone actively marks their absence19:32
BenCAs someone trying to get back into Debian, I feel the path of least difficulty for getting you back on track is best.19:32
micahgjbicha: are your reasons why you weren't uploading something you can share?19:32
jbichamicahg: I'd rather not discuss my need to leave publicly if that's ok19:33
jbichait was for personal reasons19:33
micahgok19:33
BenCI would say that self removal shows some form of self discipline and respect for the project, so there’s that.19:34
rbasakjbicha: what sort of uploads do you expect to do with restored permissions? Have you done any sponsored ones already19:35
rbasak?19:35
jbichamy recent activity has been helping with sru's for xenial: gnome-documents, gnome-taquin (stuck in queue) and abiword19:36
jbichaI am looking to rejoin ~motu and ~ubuntu-gnome-dev19:36
jbichaI've done quite a bit with the GNOME3 PPA since we're not ready for GTK 3.20 in Yakkety yet19:36
rbasakAre you in touch with GNOME flavor uploaders?19:37
jbichayes, I have rejoined the Ubuntu GNOME team and communicate with ricotz and darkxst19:37
rbasakAre they aware of this request?19:38
jbichadarkxst encouraged me to re-apply19:38
rbasakOK, thanks. I just wanted to make sure we don't surprise anyone (since normally we'd expect endoresements from people on the same teams so we'd know that they are aware)19:39
jbichahe's been having computer trouble so he's been mostly off IRC recently19:39
jbichaI can ask him to send y'all an email19:39
jbichait's also early AM in Australia (his time)19:40
bdmurrayjbicha: so 2 of the 3 SRus have been accepted?19:40
rbasakIMHO (I can't speak for the others) I'm happy to trust your word.19:40
rbasakThe CoC talks of departing gracefully. In your opinion, did you do this?19:41
jbichabdmurray: yes, the other was sponsored uploaded but not accepted in the X queue yet19:41
rbasakSorry, I'd like to have asked this in the ML, but these questions didn't occur to me until now.19:41
rbasakIt's an unusual situation and I'm new on the DMB>19:42
rbasak.19:42
jbicharbasak: yes I announced my departure in advance on https://jeremybicha.wordpress.com/2013/05/27/moving-on/19:42
rbasakThanks19:42
jbichaand I tried to turn over things as much as possible to darkxst (I was tech lead for Ubuntu GNOME at the time)19:42
rbasakNo more questions from me I think.19:42
micahg#vote reinstate jbicha and ubuntu-gnome-dev19:45
meetingologyPlease vote on: reinstate jbicha and ubuntu-gnome-dev19:45
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)19:45
rbasakmicahg: and motu I think?19:46
micahg#voters cyphermox bdmurray micahg BenC19:46
meetingologyCurrent voters: BenC bdmurray cyphermox micahg19:46
BenC+119:46
meetingology+1 received from BenC19:46
micahg#voters cyphermox bdmurray micahg BenC rbasak19:46
meetingologyCurrent voters: BenC bdmurray cyphermox micahg rbasak19:46
micahgand MOTU19:46
rbasak+119:46
meetingology+1 received from rbasak19:46
micahg#vote reinstate jbicha to MOTU and ubuntu-gnome-dev19:47
meetingologyVoting still open on: reinstate jbicha and ubuntu-gnome-dev19:47
bdmurray+119:47
meetingology+1 received from bdmurray19:47
cyphermox+119:47
meetingology+1 received from cyphermox19:47
micahg+119:47
meetingology+1 received from micahg19:47
BenC+1 again?19:47
meetingology+1 again? received from BenC19:47
micahg#endvote19:48
meetingologyVoting ended on: reinstate jbicha and ubuntu-gnome-dev19:48
meetingologyVotes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:019:48
meetingologyMotion carried19:48
micahgjbicha: thanks, we'll get this set up for you again19:48
BenCjbicha: Welcome back19:48
jbichathank you!19:48
micahg#topic AOB19:49
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jbichathe sponsoring queue was a bit slow lately so now I can be looking at it from the other side (i.e. helping)19:49
micahg#info next chair rbasak19:53
micahg#endmeeting19:53
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meetingologyMeeting ended Mon Jun 20 19:53:52 2016 UTC.19:53
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-06-20-19.05.moin.txt19:53
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