=== JanC is now known as Guest35692 === JanC_ is now known as JanC === cargonza is now known as cargonza-holiday === inaddy is now known as tinoco === smoser` is now known as smoser === zul_ is now known as zul [16:31] hello [16:31] #startmeeting [16:31] Meeting started Mon Jun 20 16:31:48 2016 UTC. The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:31] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [16:31] \o [16:31] o/ [16:32] The meeting agenda can be found at: [16:32] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting [16:32] [TOPIC] Announcements === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Announcements [16:32] Stefan Bader (smb) provided debdiffs for precise-xenial for xen [16:32] Otto Kekäläinen (otto) provided debdiffs for wily-xenial for mariadb-10.0 (LP: #1589302) [16:32] Launchpad bug 1589302 in mariadb-10.0 (Ubuntu Yakkety) "USN-2953-1: MySQL vulnerabilities partially applies to MariaDB too" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1589302 [16:32] Thank you for your assistance in keeping Ubuntu users secure! :) [16:32] [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report [16:32] mdeslaur: you're up [16:32] I'm in the happy place this week, and I'm off wed-fri [16:32] I'm currently about to publish a bunch of updates [16:32] and I have a few more to test and publish tomorrow [16:33] I want to update the uefi secure boot testing instructions if I have time [16:33] that's about it from me, sbeattie? [16:34] I'm on community this week [16:34] I need to finish up a couple of todos from the sprint last [16:35] I'll pick up an update or to this week [16:35] I'm also looking for pie-related build failures in the background. [16:35] I may also take friday off. [16:36] that's probably it for me. tyhicks? [16:36] I'm on bug triage this week and I'll be covering CVE triage today and tomorrow [16:36] I have quite a few sprint followups/todos [16:37] I have lingering email catchup to do from the last two weeks (vacation and then sprinting kept me from some things) [16:37] I need to remind myself where I was at with the yakkety apparmor upload, complete that, and then move on to the xenial SRU [16:38] I have some snap-confine PR reviews to do (seccomp arg filtering and some others that landed without security team review) [16:38] then I'd like to move on to seccomp complain mode for snappy's devmode [16:38] that's it for me [16:38] jjohansen: you're up [16:39] I'm working on making sure apparmor stacking is ready to be opened up to user name spaces [16:40] I have a few TODOs to finish up from last weeks sprint, and I have a neglected upstream kernel pull-request to finish getting together and push out [16:41] I also have the 4.7 apparmor rebase to finish with and push to the kt [16:41] and I will be taking thurs and friday off [16:42] oh and I suppose if I can squeeze it in I will push up the current set of apparmor 3.5 fixes to the kt for xenial [16:42] thats it for /me tyhicks back to you [16:42] sounds like you'll have a more than full week for only 3 days [16:43] there's probably no need to work on the 3.5 fix pull request this week [16:43] chrisccoulson: you're up [16:43] heh, yeah, like I said if I can squeeze it in :) [16:43] I've got one follow-up todo from last week (creating instructions for doing flash updates). [16:44] I don't have any other updates planned this week [16:45] Other than that, I'll hopefully be able to test the browser on arm64. So I'll be spending time this week fixing any issues that result from that [16:45] I think that's me done [16:46] sounds like a nice week [16:46] ratliff: your turn [16:46] I am working on todos from the sprint and misc. management tasks [16:47] I want to finish the transition tasks from jdstrand and start playing with the uct tools [16:47] I will be off on Friday (travelling) [16:47] back to you tyhicks [16:48] thanks! [16:48] [TOPIC] Highlighted packages === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages [16:48] The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. [16:48] See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. [16:48] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/pngcrush.html [16:48] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/inn.html [16:48] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/minissdpd.html [16:48] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gitlab.html [16:48] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/tardiff.html [16:48] [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions [16:48] Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? [16:49] tyhicks: I have one more item on my plate this week, I may need to spend some time looking at why aslr tests are failing on ppc64el and s390: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1594347 [16:49] Launchpad bug 1594347 in QA Regression Testing "kernel-security aslr tests failing on ppc64el and zseries" [Undecided,New] [16:49] oh, the "no updates planned" from me isn't true - I've got an oxide update to do [16:50] sbeattie: huh... let me know if you aren't able to get to it before taking friday (if you take off friday) [16:51] s/before taking friday/before friday/ [16:51] chrisccoulson: ack [16:51] mdeslaur, sbeattie, jjohansen, ChrisCoulson, ratliff: Thanks! [16:51] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:51] Meeting ended Mon Jun 20 16:51:16 2016 UTC. [16:51] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-06-20-16.31.moin.txt [16:51] tyhicks: thanks! [16:51] thanks tyhicks [16:51] thanks, tyhicks! [16:51] thanks tyhicks! [19:00] o/ [19:01] \o [19:01] o/, but brb [19:01] untu loco going dtrong the trsditional way [19:02] o/ [19:02] hoping to get the loco going [19:02] sorry nfor typos [19:02] kb gone crazy [19:02] oops sorry [19:03] o/ [19:03] i hit some wrong key somewhere. sorry guys [19:05] Kilos: we are about to start a meeting [19:05] #startmeeting DMB [19:05] Meeting started Mon Jun 20 19:05:22 2016 UTC. The chair is micahg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [19:05] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB Meeting | Current topic: [19:05] Welcome to the DMB meeting [19:05] #topic Review of previous action items === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB Meeting | Current topic: Review of previous action items [19:06] #subtopic cyphremox Update Mate packages per Iain Laney's suggestions [19:06] hrm, wiki typo [19:06] any update [19:07] cyphermox: ^^ [19:07] hello [19:07] he was at a sprint last week so might be taking a swap day [19:07] or not [19:08] nah but it's not done iether [19:08] ok [19:08] carried [19:08] #subtopic everyone to review rbasak's question on devel-permissions and give feedback [19:09] whoops, I forgot to do that [19:09] Unless anyone objects, I'll go ahead and ask the TB to add the packageset this week. [19:10] we have TB members on the team, we can JFDI [19:10] I’m all for that [19:10] rbasak: what was the decision on fonts-*? gunnar seemed to indicate he didn't care about that as much [19:11] Based on the ML thread, I thought we were going to create a personal packageset for Gunnar. [19:11] Then we can adjust it as/if/when glob expansions change. [19:11] I forget, is there any team in Debian for which this packageset could be mirrored against? [19:11] "If wildcards cannot be used that way, I'd suggest that you skip the fonts-* part for now." [19:12] well, if we're doing a packageset, we can add new fonts-* to the packageset when requested [19:12] and the packageset script could actually be updated to handle that [19:13] Let's stop bikeshedding this. [19:14] I'd still prefer to make the packageset more general if there's a way to do that that makes sense, otherwise, i'm fine with the personal packageset in this scenario [19:15] micahg: fine, but please can you decide your "if" now, so that we can proceed? [19:18] would anyone else also want a languages packageset or is it just me? [19:18] sorry, was looking up the packages requested again [19:18] I don't think the extra work is justified at this point in time. [19:20] Additionally, I believe I looked for overlap in the packages requested and other package sets and found little to none. [19:20] ok, rbasak can I assign to you then to find a TB person (I think we have one or two on the team) to create the packageset and then add the packages to the new packageset with a description and possibly updating the packageset script for the globs? [19:21] bdmurray: extra work for which option? [19:21] yeah, it's just making a team in LP and marking it as the uploader for the packageset, not a lot of "extra" work [19:21] rbasak: for the languages packageset micachg was asking about. [19:22] OK [19:23] micahg: ack to taking that assignment [19:23] #action rbasak to find a TB DMB member to create packageset for gunnarhj's packages [19:23] ACTION: rbasak to find a TB DMB member to create packageset for gunnarhj's packages [19:24] #action rbasak to add gunnarhj's packages to the new packageset (carried) [19:24] ACTION: rbasak to add gunnarhj's packages to the new packageset (carried) [19:24] #action rbasak to update packageset script to handle globs for new packageset if needed [19:24] ACTION: rbasak to update packageset script to handle globs for new packageset if needed [19:25] Thanks [19:25] #subtopic everyone to review rbasak's question on devel-permissions and give feedback [19:25] oops [19:25] #undo [19:25] Removing item from minutes: SUBTOPIC [19:26] #subtopic sil2100 to check the state of Ubuntu uTouch Uploaders and any other teams that might be non-existent [19:26] carried [19:26] moving on [19:26] #topic MOTU Applications === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB Meeting | Current topic: MOTU Applications [19:26] #subtopic Reinstating Jeremy Bicha into MOTU after an absence [19:27] I guess my main question is what was the motivation for leaving before [19:29] jbicha: ^^ [19:29] I knew I wasn't going to be using my permissions for a while so I thought it would be better if I left the teams [19:29] Did he leave or just not renew when he got the email from Launchpad? [19:29] I left the teams [19:31] jbicha: I go through periods of not using my core dev permissions. It’s best to retain permissions that you are granted, and only drop them if you plan on never returning. [19:31] That’s my opinion, but I think it’s fairly well accepted by others. Just a note for the future :) [19:31] I'll keep that in mind [19:32] well, that's debatable, I think that's what happens in practice, but I don't know if that's best [19:32] is it better for the project though if someone actively marks their absence [19:32] As someone trying to get back into Debian, I feel the path of least difficulty for getting you back on track is best. [19:32] jbicha: are your reasons why you weren't uploading something you can share? [19:33] micahg: I'd rather not discuss my need to leave publicly if that's ok [19:33] it was for personal reasons [19:33] ok [19:34] I would say that self removal shows some form of self discipline and respect for the project, so there’s that. [19:35] jbicha: what sort of uploads do you expect to do with restored permissions? Have you done any sponsored ones already [19:35] ? [19:36] my recent activity has been helping with sru's for xenial: gnome-documents, gnome-taquin (stuck in queue) and abiword [19:36] I am looking to rejoin ~motu and ~ubuntu-gnome-dev [19:36] I've done quite a bit with the GNOME3 PPA since we're not ready for GTK 3.20 in Yakkety yet [19:37] Are you in touch with GNOME flavor uploaders? [19:37] yes, I have rejoined the Ubuntu GNOME team and communicate with ricotz and darkxst [19:38] Are they aware of this request? [19:38] darkxst encouraged me to re-apply [19:39] OK, thanks. I just wanted to make sure we don't surprise anyone (since normally we'd expect endoresements from people on the same teams so we'd know that they are aware) [19:39] he's been having computer trouble so he's been mostly off IRC recently [19:39] I can ask him to send y'all an email [19:40] it's also early AM in Australia (his time) [19:40] jbicha: so 2 of the 3 SRus have been accepted? [19:40] IMHO (I can't speak for the others) I'm happy to trust your word. [19:41] The CoC talks of departing gracefully. In your opinion, did you do this? [19:41] bdmurray: yes, the other was sponsored uploaded but not accepted in the X queue yet [19:41] Sorry, I'd like to have asked this in the ML, but these questions didn't occur to me until now. [19:42] It's an unusual situation and I'm new on the DMB> [19:42] . [19:42] rbasak: yes I announced my departure in advance on https://jeremybicha.wordpress.com/2013/05/27/moving-on/ [19:42] Thanks [19:42] and I tried to turn over things as much as possible to darkxst (I was tech lead for Ubuntu GNOME at the time) [19:42] No more questions from me I think. [19:45] #vote reinstate jbicha and ubuntu-gnome-dev [19:45] Please vote on: reinstate jbicha and ubuntu-gnome-dev [19:45] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:46] micahg: and motu I think? [19:46] #voters cyphermox bdmurray micahg BenC [19:46] Current voters: BenC bdmurray cyphermox micahg [19:46] +1 [19:46] +1 received from BenC [19:46] #voters cyphermox bdmurray micahg BenC rbasak [19:46] Current voters: BenC bdmurray cyphermox micahg rbasak [19:46] and MOTU [19:46] +1 [19:46] +1 received from rbasak [19:47] #vote reinstate jbicha to MOTU and ubuntu-gnome-dev [19:47] Voting still open on: reinstate jbicha and ubuntu-gnome-dev [19:47] +1 [19:47] +1 received from bdmurray [19:47] +1 [19:47] +1 received from cyphermox [19:47] +1 [19:47] +1 received from micahg [19:47] +1 again? [19:47] +1 again? received from BenC [19:48] #endvote [19:48] Voting ended on: reinstate jbicha and ubuntu-gnome-dev [19:48] Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [19:48] Motion carried [19:48] jbicha: thanks, we'll get this set up for you again [19:48] jbicha: Welcome back [19:48] thank you! [19:49] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB Meeting | Current topic: AOB [19:49] the sponsoring queue was a bit slow lately so now I can be looking at it from the other side (i.e. helping) [19:53] #info next chair rbasak [19:53] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [19:53] Meeting ended Mon Jun 20 19:53:52 2016 UTC. [19:53] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-06-20-19.05.moin.txt === slickyma1ter is now known as slickymaster